MEET MY WELDING PARTNER & OUR HELPERS (DAY IN THE LIFE OF A PIPELINE WELDER)

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  • MEET MY WELDING PARTNER & OUR HELPERS (DAY IN THE LIFE OF A PIPELINE WELDER)
    Austin Ross, a pipeline welder takes you along for a typical day of a pipeline welder helper and day in the life of a welder. In this video, they are on pipeline tie ins as pipeline tie in crew. Join in for a day in the life of a pipeline welder helper on pipeline tie in weld. Austin's worked with a few old time pipe welders and it's always fun to learn about pipeline welding back when they started. Austin interviews Devon and Chase both pipeline welder helper. Here is an average ditl pipeline welder. Documenting an "average" ditl pipeliner is hard becasue almost every day in diffferent especially on tie ins. So this is ditl welder who does pipeline work. It's also a good peak behing the curtain to what's like for pipeline welder helper too. Join in on pipeline life by Subscribing and sticking around.
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  • @tmz90
    @tmz90 5 років тому +141

    I could listen for hours listening to old timers. They have the smartest, most entertaining stories, those stories can take you back to an era that will never be reproduced.

  • @TheTsunamijuan
    @TheTsunamijuan 4 роки тому +37

    I must say Andy looks great for 73. I wouldn't of guessed he was that old, i would of thought he was in his late 50's at the oldest. I think its great that hes out there being active and getting the job done instead of stagnating somewhere. Looks like a great guy to know and mentor.

  • @hideskinnerbuck5316
    @hideskinnerbuck5316 5 років тому +134

    Old timers has some good stories. Like to hear more.

    • @electrontube
      @electrontube 4 роки тому +4

      yeah, I could sit at a campfire with a man like that and just listen forever

  • @jeridjanikowski9338
    @jeridjanikowski9338 5 років тому +15

    Andi is the type of person this country was built by; he is a dying breed; those guys needed to be recorded and their storys need to be saved and shared; most of this generation would be screwed if they had to so what that generation did to get by; they earned every thing they got; mommy and daddy gave them nothing
    I really appreciate you interviewing him do it again soon
    Thanks for sharing

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  5 років тому +4

      I couldn’t agree more. It’s my pleasure. I love sharing stories like his.

  • @eddiefason3783
    @eddiefason3783 2 роки тому +9

    No matter what trade, those old timers are worth their wait in gold. I could listen to him all day everyday. They know a thing or two cause they have seen a thing or two.

  • @electrontube
    @electrontube 4 роки тому +5

    i didn't do your work. but i worked 25 in years in cold and hot and mud and dust and ice and rain and pain and heartache. and i have the deepest respect for anyone that will remain skillful and valuable to their team and their family in the elements. you're good people and i simply won't hear otherwise.

  • @shawnsammons4013
    @shawnsammons4013 5 років тому +7

    Andy is a great man. He was my dad's welding foreman for close to 10 years with Latex. They were some fun times and hard work. Andy and I would go back and do dig ups and spool ins if needed. I was with him in Kansas on them dig ups. I will always have a lot of respect for him. I never felt like he thought he was better than anyone else, I learned a lot from the old timers like him, coming up watching them.

  • @jmkenny
    @jmkenny 4 роки тому +13

    I could listen to his storys for hours! Such a genuine guy!

  • @13gravezz
    @13gravezz 5 років тому +100

    andy's probably flashed himself more times than i've even put my hood down 😂

    • @shaneintegra
      @shaneintegra 3 роки тому

      What do you mean flashed himself?

    • @13gravezz
      @13gravezz 3 роки тому +6

      @@shaneintegra stringing a arc before putting your hood down. So you stare at the arc for a second on accident

    • @shaneintegra
      @shaneintegra 3 роки тому

      @@13gravezz ohhhhh. Thanks :D

    • @juarezderrick9647
      @juarezderrick9647 3 роки тому +6

      Flashburn is a bitch

    • @liamdaigle5839
      @liamdaigle5839 3 роки тому +1

      @@juarezderrick9647 almost impossible to get if you're wearing safetys haha unless your doing boiler tubes lol

  • @johnnyfair
    @johnnyfair 5 років тому +51

    73 yoa! I hope he is doing what he loves to do and not working out of pure necessity.I am 55 and I know I cannot work like I used to.

    • @ScooterLee-ei1ep
      @ScooterLee-ei1ep 4 роки тому +6

      Pipeline welders can have LOOONG career if they take care of their body. Wandering on the pipe is the easiest job on the line

    • @TN_Whiskey
      @TN_Whiskey 3 роки тому +1

      Even he was doing it out of necessity he would have been able to stop years ago

    • @livewithnick
      @livewithnick 2 роки тому

      @@TN_Whiskey you can make a ton of money every year but if you don’t manage it right it doesn’t last. My family member made 3 million doing Hurricane remodels one year back around the time Katrina hit. He died last month broke except for his house and land. No money left in the bank. That’s after making good money his whole life.

  • @FilamEFX
    @FilamEFX Рік тому +1

    I could listen to Andy reminisce all day, guys like Andy are true historians.

  • @Self.reliant
    @Self.reliant 3 роки тому +4

    Working with old-timers was one of the best things I ever did. I'm an ase master auto tech and I learned a lot from an old timer named Tom the stories he told man I could listen to him for hrs not to mention all the things I learned based on his knowledge was priceless

  • @jeremyschon5113
    @jeremyschon5113 5 років тому +32

    Awesome video as always love hearing old timer stories, you wouldn't think he was 73 still going strong pretty cool he's still burning rods with young guys

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  5 років тому +11

      I know it. Really makes you realize that age is just a number and it's more about how old you feel or act.

    • @brucecaldwell6701
      @brucecaldwell6701 4 роки тому +1

      That is one tough ol' bird to still be pipelining at his age. Hope he lives well past retirement so he can enjoy it.

    • @scottm.7746
      @scottm.7746 2 роки тому

      Andy's been retired. He does it because he enjoys it. He will also weld faster and slicker than most. He was my first foreman.

  • @irenovatedmv
    @irenovatedmv 3 роки тому

    Really enjoyed this one, even more than the rest. Reminds me of when I used to hang with my grandad and listen to his stories. Such good memories...

  • @pl747
    @pl747 5 років тому +4

    I love hearing the stories from them old timerz. Lots of experience.

  • @wadewittman8510
    @wadewittman8510 5 років тому +5

    That was awesome!! Andy sure is a hoot. Could listen to his stories for days. Thanks for sharing Austin 👍.

  • @troyrunyan249
    @troyrunyan249 4 роки тому +3

    I really like your videos. You are so polite and humble, good job man!

  • @Apache-Adventures
    @Apache-Adventures 4 роки тому +16

    Id love to buy a case of cold ones and just listen to Pawpaws stories all day, and learn a few things🤙🏼

  • @travisrickett7175
    @travisrickett7175 5 років тому

    Great video again there is a lot to be learned from the guys that have been around, but even if you don't learn anything there stories are great to hear.

  • @rl2769
    @rl2769 5 років тому

    Hopefully we’ll here some of Andy’s stories👍 thanks for sharing Austin

  • @justinmills8084
    @justinmills8084 5 років тому +9

    You learn so much about life from them old boys. I make it a point to make friends with older people and I was so blessed with talking with them about there past. Incredible what they went through.
    I am taking 35 years ago with people in there 70s, 80s and 90year olds that remembered the depression really well.

  • @derekcollins1972
    @derekcollins1972 3 роки тому

    Thanks for that vid.I just love meeting people like that.I work in Nova Scotia now but had worked as far away as Louisiana after Katerina happened.Take care and keep busy.

  • @Ironjaytrain2003
    @Ironjaytrain2003 4 роки тому

    Mad respect to learn the right way by helping first

  • @weldor111
    @weldor111 5 років тому

    Andy sounds like an alright guy plus he's from Missouri and same age as me. Listen to him and you will probably learn a lot of tips and tricks .
    Thanks again for the videos and be safe.

  • @kevinvallee9049
    @kevinvallee9049 5 років тому

    Great video. Thanks for sharing. Love hearing from ol timers

  • @barrydawg7544
    @barrydawg7544 4 роки тому +3

    Love hearing stories from the old timers.. I'm 66 but I still have stories from my day's of factory pipe welding,,,, mostly TIG and 7018 stick....

  • @jasonmiller2485
    @jasonmiller2485 5 років тому +1

    I've always wanted to be a pipeline welder , I just got my diesel technician degree and am about to get a welding certification ur videos are helping me a hell of a lot with wat I need to be ready for thank you keep up good work

  • @WTFisAuserFRCKINname
    @WTFisAuserFRCKINname 5 років тому

    I’m from AL also. Can’t wait to be a helper one day and get on the road, to hopefully be a welder. I’ve been welding almost a full year now (I know I’d be on the low end of the totem, but you gotta start somewhere), and I’m soon to be NCCER, all of OSHA, and many more certified. My wife and I are going to homeschool our little girl, so it wouldn’t interfere at all if they were on the road with me. Watching these videos gives me true insight as to what life would be out there in all conditions. I’ve already learned so much in the few videos I’ve watched over the past few weeks. Hope they keep’a comin!

  • @brettcouch6820
    @brettcouch6820 5 років тому +7

    Andy is hilarious I bet he’s a lot of fun to work with I imagine he’s forgot more than a lot of us know you probably could learn a lot from a man like him

  • @marioalonso900
    @marioalonso900 5 років тому +6

    I helped a welder that has been welding for 50 years I learned so much from that guy

  • @derrickwalker538
    @derrickwalker538 Рік тому

    Can learn a lot from them old cats!! Always enjoyed working with them old guys!!

  • @mtollmaster3747
    @mtollmaster3747 5 років тому +3

    Wow. Andy is the best! He needs his own channel!

  • @calebmattix391
    @calebmattix391 5 років тому

    Love the videos from the row. Looks like you boys are earning it

  • @tmack2090
    @tmack2090 5 років тому +2

    liked the interview and the old stories !

  • @mandogarcia7905
    @mandogarcia7905 4 роки тому +1

    It's Saturday night here in Chicago, and while watching your video while burning wood in my fire pit drinking my cold beer. When you had that great conversation with old school Andy,I actually felt like I was there with ya chilling and listening to a hard working man with wisdom and knowledge who made unions what it is today...God Bless from a union brother from local#21 Bricklayers and Tuckpointers Chicago Illinois

  • @tommystanton3344
    @tommystanton3344 3 роки тому

    I love the stories from the older guys.

  • @jacobmiller4451
    @jacobmiller4451 5 років тому +3

    The stories of the greater generation .. awesome..

  • @keithparady2594
    @keithparady2594 5 років тому +2

    That’s kool man always like talking to the older generation and hearing stories

  • @chrishines6258
    @chrishines6258 4 роки тому +1

    I don’t live to far from red level Alabama. It’s amazing to see videos with people from my neck of the woods

  • @Arkadius1984gl
    @Arkadius1984gl 4 роки тому

    56 years old welding rig still kicking strong - no more questions:)

  • @timanderson2204
    @timanderson2204 5 років тому

    Awesome video, love stories from old timers.

  • @jeffcanyafixiy
    @jeffcanyafixiy 4 роки тому

    Mr. Buddy heater!!
    Lifesaver,, goodness I'm not a fan of the cold weather work.
    Hang tough Austin, be blessed, stay blessed!!
    Devin, keep on keepin on. 👍👍

  • @rcs368
    @rcs368 4 роки тому

    After years in the trade, all the stuff the young bucks want to see... welding, grinding, fitting show, yea still interesting since I can relate, but the best part is the way you documented that hand.

  • @joaquinlujan3816
    @joaquinlujan3816 5 років тому +5

    It’s always great learning from the old timers👌

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  5 років тому

      Amen. Soaking it up while I can.

  • @andrew3113
    @andrew3113 2 роки тому +1

    You give me motivation brother. Working to get my own rig going here soon!!!

  • @OldassBoomer
    @OldassBoomer 2 роки тому

    Nice to see some clear-eyed, intelligent, young men doing the right thing.

  • @ajmunozrigwelder
    @ajmunozrigwelder 5 років тому

    Old timers are great
    Keep Andy comein on !👍🏾

  • @llanman81
    @llanman81 5 років тому +3

    Could listen to Andy all day long!! Great video!

  • @emilioballi
    @emilioballi 5 років тому

    Awesome video, old timers tell some great life stories. Great job Austin.

  • @rdcoburnsr
    @rdcoburnsr 5 років тому +4

    Enjoyed the video. Tell Deven hello from Scottsboro Al.
    Tell Andy’s helper Chance hello from a West Monroe La. native.
    Be safe out there.

  • @cartergimbel6866
    @cartergimbel6866 4 роки тому

    I love the stories. I kinda wish I was doing more field work with my everlast welder.

  • @weldshot1700
    @weldshot1700 5 років тому +3

    Andy I believe I worked with him back in 2015 crinkle and destroy in NJ great guy never could keep still throughout the day. He had that old gas machine fired up all throughout the day his helper and him stayed busy with little items that keep a rig up and running and organized.

  • @treetopflyersofva2
    @treetopflyersofva2 5 років тому +3

    I could listen to Andy's stories all day. My hat is off to that man for still working in his 70's. Thank you Austin for sharing your working life with us. I have been watching for a few years now and to me they keep getting better. The welder stories and videos of you out there in the trenches really help us to see a pipeline welders life. Thank you for sharing.

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  5 років тому +1

      I can too. It's been a blast to work with him. Really passes the downtime we have on tie-ins. Glad you are here and like the videos. I enjoying making them.

  • @jeremiahmcglone9699
    @jeremiahmcglone9699 5 років тому +2

    I learn a lot from these old timers lol!

  • @anderson7and75
    @anderson7and75 5 років тому +3

    Obviously I'm looking for tips, tricks and secrets of the pipeline.....what great content though. I would take it as a privilege to work with either one of you guys. I grew up in a tiny little town though, real work and the TRUE advantage of working with real men is a lost asset these days. Great video.

  • @jfrost412
    @jfrost412 5 років тому +2

    More Andy stories. good stuff. keep up the great content

  • @jasonitz6580
    @jasonitz6580 5 років тому +21

    Mr. Angy Hess I've worked for him this man is one slick welder for is age dont let him fool you .
    We were on a job and a welder thought he could out weld Andy and he was wrong so wrong.
    I was laughing my ass off because andy was waiting on the younger welder to finish up

    • @vangoghsseveredear
      @vangoghsseveredear 3 роки тому

      Ya never fuck with the old timers. Those guys know their shit

  • @connersnow298
    @connersnow298 2 роки тому

    Awesome vid and edits and filming and truck and equipment and stories

  • @joeybonarrigo8703
    @joeybonarrigo8703 4 роки тому

    Yo Andy a legend u know he only works bc he loves it

  • @mugshotbradley5505
    @mugshotbradley5505 5 років тому +9

    Totally awesome video!! I could listen to some of the "old timers" for hours. One of my neighbors worked the Alaska pipeline, and boy does he have some stories. Work hard and be safe!

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  5 років тому +3

      Me too, I’ve enjoyed every min of everyday working with Andy.

    • @donniecochrane4998
      @donniecochrane4998 5 років тому

      So awsom. His story's. Cool page

  • @joshl.158
    @joshl.158 3 роки тому

    Love andy's stories

  • @davidrandolph6462
    @davidrandolph6462 4 роки тому

    I enjoy old pipelines stories

  • @KickstandsUp909
    @KickstandsUp909 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the welding info. Just starting out.

  • @jeremyadkins5836
    @jeremyadkins5836 5 років тому +1

    That's interesting hearing from Andy about working overseas. I've always wanted to go travel but didnt know if it was actually possible.

  • @zachswigart7457
    @zachswigart7457 5 років тому

    Your helper worked for me back in 2016 in maryland. i think it was his second job welding.

  • @rrcontracting9028
    @rrcontracting9028 5 років тому

    I started welding more than 30 years ago . And I’m only 36 . Dad would let me make big scrap people from drops under the saw . Then I turned marine welder , I worked for American yachts . 18 to 22 . Then I started building all the metal systems in yachts . Brass , bronze , stainless , all the fine and fun metals . Most recently I quit and now I’m a certified hvac contrator licensed in the state of Florida . Where better for ac ? Also commercial refrigeration . I still get to braze weld all the time. Love it . Open flame . It took me years to realize when you sweat that gas torch won’t shock you like a/c tig 200 amps with high freq in the back ground . I jump like it’s gonna shock me still . I got tig in my blood so bad . You will see my welds all over the world and out of this world . I contracted for lenco, Rupp, American yachts , tribute yachts , etc , nasa , D.O.A lures , navy , lures yachts , Armstrong, cgc canvas, Jim Smith boats , broward yachts , verizon yachts , American yachts , to many more to list . I’m an aluminum and stainless boat works junky that switches to being an hvac contractor. Hopefully I can do less with my back and more with my brain . Now I’ve got into the stock market so good that welding doesn’t seem like the best way to make money any more . But i sure do love my metal work .

  • @cnote91
    @cnote91 5 років тому

    Good stuff right here man!

  • @SouthernOutfitter
    @SouthernOutfitter 5 років тому +2

    Decatur,AL here hope to be in 798 soon! Lu 760 here! Love the vids

  • @robertgemski7728
    @robertgemski7728 5 років тому +3

    You ever worked in Pennsylvania? I was a helper had planned on getting my own rig but my body let me down i got asthma to the point i had to stop welding altogether. Chokes me up just commenting about it. I put so much dang effort and $ into it its a hard pill to swallow. But about a year after I stopped welding i could breath again!!! So i went back to being a carpenter what i know and love but i wont never be rich or broke. Keep it up man your channel is great. I loved pipelining and the people i met.

    • @vangoghsseveredear
      @vangoghsseveredear 3 роки тому

      Even with a respirator? I wear one all the time while welding. Boilermaker welder. It doesn't catch everything but it helps. Even if people razz ya for it, really everyone should be wearing one

  • @hwdllc
    @hwdllc 5 років тому

    Enjoy that video. Good stuff

  • @bowtac16
    @bowtac16 5 років тому +10

    Needs to be a documentary on that man. Great video

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  5 років тому +4

      I agree. These stories need to be carried on.

    • @wadewittman8510
      @wadewittman8510 5 років тому

      For sure!!

    • @justuhking3605
      @justuhking3605 4 роки тому

      Austin Ross when u get a helper do you give them hats or do they have to pay for them?

  • @dbaird8784
    @dbaird8784 5 років тому +1

    Old men stories are the best

  • @JustinRolfe
    @JustinRolfe 4 роки тому

    Mr Andy thank you for your service

  • @michaelvolentine9203
    @michaelvolentine9203 5 років тому

    Growing up in Louisiana we always had a welder and tanks at the house so I could mess in with them when I needed to weld something or burn something. My older brother got really good at welding and ended up working most of his adult life for fab companies. Also had a uncle that was a pipe line welder and in 1951 he decided to get a job overseas in Morocco and spent 4 years there and then went to Iran for 4 years.
    One time when I was ,14 my brother decided he wanted to build a small boat trailer and he needed help from me to hold things while he welded them. We did not have but one shield and of course he needed it so I just did not look and I must have looked quite because that night I woke up and I thought someone had poured sand in my eyes. The next morning I had to go to school to register for the 9th grade and my eyes were hurting and tearing up and everyone was looking at me wondering what I was crying for. LOL. Andy said he worked overseas. Could you ask him where and what years? He might have known my uncle.

  • @terrysmith917
    @terrysmith917 Рік тому

    Damn Andy you just can't get enough of it can you

    • @terrysmith917
      @terrysmith917 Рік тому

      You must not have had to work as hard as I did out there 40 years was enough for me LOL

  • @alexquintero4807
    @alexquintero4807 5 років тому

    I grew up in central Alabama and I start working at 17 and never stop,almost time for retirement and making good money.Oxford AL to be exactly correct.
    I have a property in Clay county for more the 30 years. Stay warm guys and safety first.

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown 5 років тому

    Another great one.... thanks

  • @robertchaffee7737
    @robertchaffee7737 5 років тому

    Great video!!!

  • @SweatyWelder68
    @SweatyWelder68 5 років тому

    WoW!!Austin I think this was the best Video I've seen yet!!bROTHER i lOVE oLD gUYS lIKE aNDY BECAUSE WIITHOUT THEM YOU AND i WOULD NOT BE WHO WE ARE!!!!I learned how to weld pipe by workin with Good ole boys just exactly like Andy and I appreciate everything they taught me even when they chewed my ass out for grinding towards their weldin trucks..LOL or grindin too much meat outta their stringers or whatever dumb crap i used to do when i was a Worm..LOL!!Keep the Old Timers coming ..once they are gone they are gone..

  • @williamhowell555
    @williamhowell555 5 років тому

    Great content Austin stay safe brother

  • @benjaminwest6373
    @benjaminwest6373 5 років тому

    Can’t wait till I can tell these stories

  • @sergioramirez3328
    @sergioramirez3328 5 років тому

    Just having some fun be safe

  • @kaliguy47
    @kaliguy47 4 роки тому +1

    Andy mentioned Zion IL, I live by there, funny story, rough neighborhood..

  • @JonJon501
    @JonJon501 3 роки тому

    Good stuff man!

  • @ssampson572
    @ssampson572 5 років тому

    Hell yeah,, Andy is a good guy there,, good stories, I enjoy them from some of old timers here at work.. hardly anymore tho,, they retiring..

  • @toddstegner9894
    @toddstegner9894 5 років тому

    Love the videos. Story time with Andy was great. Not sure if you've done this yet or not but what about a video of the types of rod that you have come across as a pipe line welder, how you have to run them and your experience with them(favorites)?

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  5 років тому +1

      I’m glad you enjoyed it. I’ll take note of that.

  • @hubertrobinson8825
    @hubertrobinson8825 4 роки тому

    Life and times allways interesting

  • @austinkilchriss6150
    @austinkilchriss6150 5 років тому +1

    great vid

  • @markantczak2766
    @markantczak2766 5 років тому +2

    I’ve had the pleasure of welding with Andy and working for Andy up here in Local 597 territory. I would put him up against 99% of the pipeline welders in this country, both on welding ability and work ethics. I spent many coffee and lunch breaks listening to his stories and they’ve never gotten old.

  • @HarrisFS
    @HarrisFS 3 роки тому

    My dad worked the Alaska pipeline and one of the stories he would tell us is that they had a big electric heater in the company truck and it would get the temperature inside UP TO zero degrees.

  • @pupbiking
    @pupbiking 5 років тому +1

    Gotta love Andy 73 and still in the trenches unbelivable......

  • @jeremymcclanahan2389
    @jeremymcclanahan2389 5 років тому

    Katrina was '05...I was standing in a chow hall at PLDC when I heard the news

  • @MBASTOCKDOGS
    @MBASTOCKDOGS 5 років тому +1

    Great music in the video; nothing sounds sweeter than an ol '63 200. A guy had bought a '63 SA 200 and leased it to a refinery in Eldorado for a year. The guy had died and his wife wanted to sell it. Dad paid $700 for it in '64 and it didn't have many hours on it. It's great getting to hear the stories from Andy and look forward to more in the future. I agree on Devon making a smart move, sometimes you have to take a step back in order to go forward.

  • @timlinehan6424
    @timlinehan6424 4 роки тому +1

    You gotta use "Howe's additive" that's what me and my daddy use in our diesels pick ups and semis

  • @dilly_dallys
    @dilly_dallys 4 роки тому

    I’d don’t know much/or to say but who says the older generations have poor memories? Lol awesome content GOD BLESS!

  • @xaviergutierrez5990
    @xaviergutierrez5990 5 років тому +1

    We need more stories!!!

  • @bamaboy6207
    @bamaboy6207 4 роки тому

    my dad was rig welder for 47yrs he actually passed on a job still burning rods at age 67! i am oldest of 3 sons been a rig welder for 30yrs now an have younger brother that been rig welder for 25yrs also!! but all i can say pipelining make you old in hurry but hope i can jus make 60 an that jus 10yrs away!! lol!! but my dad was one of the best!! roll tide

  • @SAXONWARLORD1000AD
    @SAXONWARLORD1000AD 3 роки тому

    HARD TO BELIEVE THAT DUDES 73 and still doin it

  • @shearwave7885
    @shearwave7885 2 роки тому +1

    Brother I’ve been checking out a lot of your vids and man this one had me laughing. Andy is a trip and I hope I get to work with him on the line someday. I would say that is far fetched with him being 73 but shit he looks like he will still be stacking iron at 105! Lol

  • @chrisduncan2626
    @chrisduncan2626 2 роки тому

    It definitely feels much colder when you arent actively working. I like to freeze to death if im just hanging out, but once im doing something i do ok