"You'll Drop Your Katana With a Loose Grip!!" ...THINK AGAIN!! (About Our Te-no-uchi)
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Tenouchi, meaning “inside the hand,” is a unique term used in Japanese katana/bow martial arts, referring to how you grip the weapon’s handle. Since Tenouchi is considered the ultimate technique of Iai/Kenjutsu, the proverb "Tenouchi o miseru (Showing the Tenouchi)" means to expose all one's skills and strategies. We’ve introduced many techniques of our Ryuha style where the katana turns and spins inside the hand, but what kind of Tenouchi makes such skills possible?
So today, Seki sensei, the 22nd headmaster of Kobudo Asayama Ichiden Ryu with 400 years of history, will explain the unique Tenouchi of our Ryuha, and the various benefits. Many people in the comments have been telling us, “You’ll get your katana hit away with such a loose grip!” Seki Sensei has a thing to say to these comments, so please watch this video until the end. By the way, tickets for the 3-day training camp in Japan held by Seki Sensei and Let's ask Shogo are now on sale! Check out our Patreon page for more information!
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Looser grip is preferred in many martial arts because it gives you leeway to adapt. Too firm of a grip can ironically make you drop your sword in some disarming techniques.
One of my instructors compared firmness of a basic grip to holding bird chick in your palm. You want grip firm enough to hold it in place but not so strong you would crush its neck.
A tight grip is apparently only useful in sundering.
A too stiff grip also messes up your hands/palms fairly easily, at least my experience from stickfighting (fma)
You need to grip tight but flexible... like there is a sweetspot for grip strength. Hard to explain but actually easy to find out with some practice.
Still i miss those callusses.
😩 why we choking the chicken in martial arts
...I never cease to be amazed that people are sure they can improve something people have been using and developing for centuries at high levels of proficiency after seeing it once.
This is, of course, assuming that nothing has been changed over hundreds of years. We are fairly certain that this is almost never the case, martial arts (like language and culture) are a product of the time and culture in which they exist. This is why also looking at older sources, or even original sources in the best case scenario, is usually best. In this specific situation, though, it is beside the point where, though.
What they are mentioning here regarding a lose grip not being a weakness is very true 👍 having not necessarily a loose grip, but a flexible and malleable grip like they are showing here is crucial. The way they show uke nagashi here also very much makes sense, both hands (particularly the bottom hand) need to be flexible enough to allow the block to work.
Seki Sensei doing the katas: 😄
Seki Sensei at the end of the video: 😐
Are there any katas against oponents with other weapons but katanas? It would be interesting to see some more katas against different weapons! Great video as always!
Like, Asayama Ichidensai might have fought against more weapons than he'd mastered. Maybe against a kanabo, or a masakari greataxe.
@@knucklepuppy824 those weapons aren’t budo and don’t have techniques because the can’t be used by everyone. Hence i don’t think there are any katas that are made specifically for them since the weapons themselves don’t have any techniques of their own or there was never a need to make any
@@amirferdhany3177 interesting!
I love to see such basics explained. This is where Asayama Ichiden Ryu's teachings shine the brightest.
@@sarinhighwind same. And I haven't even had any interest in kobudo before discovering this channel. xd
Simply beautiful
This is a very important lesson, because oftentimes you'll find misconceptions, based largely on pseudo-scientific experimentation conducted in the west. I am quite pleased to see some of these things finally being addressed. I myself - being a westerner, have made similar errors trying to apply my experience as a cold arms instructor to my practice of Shinobi no mono. I applaud your virtuosity in graciously and expertly handling these concerns. You've always approached these things with humility, objectivity, and compassionate consideration. Thank you sir, truly.❤
Can't get enough 😊 And there is so much to learn 😮 Thank you Master Seki and the crew so much 👍🙏 Take care. Stay safe 🙏
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In all Ko-ryū of kenjutsu and iaijutsu I've seen, a loose grip is preferred, dont know about the gendai ryu but seems to me like that's where most of the "youll drop your katana with a loose grip!" comments come from.
Meaning systems that were actually used in combat favor loose grips. 👍
I aim for a gentle grip. Watching Seki-Sensei use the grips on the sword are amazing. I especially appreciated that he mentioned that whichever grip you use, do it on purpose. In my martial arts journey I've found that doing something on purpose makes it okay.
Young elder Master teach awesome lessons
I can see why meditation is so important for clearing the mind. As your arsenal of moves increases there is a greater chance of hesitation. Mastery is in the mind knowing when and where to respond to an action. Thank you, Seki, I am grateful
Seki sensei's explanations sprinkled by droplets of wisdom are invaluable for someone practicing alone with live blade like myself. Editing is great as well - straight to the topic. Personal note: certain principles are more easily grasped while using live blade compared to bokken. This it one example. Arigatōgozaimashita!
Seki sensei is the man
Have been waiting on this for a long time! Thank you so much! Love your stuff! Love from the USA!
No problem!
These explanations and demonstrations are amazing!
Thank you. That was wonderful :)
Newton could have been a decent kenjutsu practicioner.
Jokes aside, I hadn't manage to figure out how to properly, naturally stop a slashing motion. Never thought the key would be in the grip!
Thank you for your videos.
I always enjoy Seki-seisei's explanations and precise execution of the techniques. Please, ask him to show us some unarmed techniques (taijutsu) of Asayama Ichiden ryu.
Strong grips also tire you quickly and make you tense unable to flow with battle.
The importance of the subtleties of this art is incredible. Really amazing quality and content. Thank you for sharing.
Years ago when the group I trained with was practicing Onaha Itto ryu, the Japanese woman teaching who was 5 foot nothing knocked the bokuto out of the hands of a man who was 6'4" and weighed 240 pounds. She told him the reason he lost his sword was because he was gripping it too tightly.
Awesome
Seki sensei is so clever, i like his lessons
I really like the movement. Those techniques look deceptively simple and seem to just put as much motion as needed. The key operative word being LOOK. Experts on their field make things look simple and easy after all.
I just love this old man
can you make a video on the gunbai war fan?
Learn a lot, thank you.
very interesting! thanks!
i am learning mjer so we have a different tenouchi and now that i tried this one i have to say it is simply supperior to anything i have used before
That was awesome!
Glad to see you looking well, Shogo. I was a little worried since you haven’t uploaded on your other channel recently, but am happy to have stumbled upon this one.
Thank you.
Does this also apply to other weapons like kama or bo? (I am guessing it would)
Loose tenouchi seems logical. In building designs, earthquake resistant designs implement energy absorption as opposed to rigidity ( even seen in the joints for many of Japans oldest wooden temples, where the joints are allowed to move allowing the structure to be somewhat flexible).
Thank you for sharing.
I would like to see some tashi techniques. I know tachi ryuha don't exist because everyone was figuring out how to duel with tashis by theirself, but as I know Seki sensei can think of techniques for any cold weapon, I want to see some "upside down katana" skills.
If you look at the names of kata in Katori Shinto ryu you will see the sword described as tachi. Tachi ryuha do exist, but it appears the techniques are the same.
Just one word: Cool.
Great 🙏🏽
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Intresting
This is AMAZING info. Kenjutsu is such a divine art and i cannot stop being impressed.
My 7th dan katori shinto ryu sensei says a relaxed but sharp mind and grip is a deadly and fierce fighter.
Hello from algeria and OSS
Reminds me of Chinese sword work as well Fluid grip
I am a Hobbyist Aikidoka and we train some basic techniques and katas with the bokken, and a lot of what Seki Sensei explains here I've heard like this as well. Having a relaxed stance, not gripping harder than necessary, using your opponents energy against them (one of the core philosophies of Aikido in general) and using footwork to get out of harms way moreso than fancy bladework. All important lessons in any Martial Art.
the loose left-right katana swing really looks like some live action kenshin stuff
Yep, watch Kenshin vs Sojiro Seta at Kyoto Inferno. Aside from inhuman (prop-assisted) footwork, I believe Sojiro's fast left-right sweep came from his loose grip
From my experience you are correct
for the counter attack with rotating blade from bottom, i saw a similar impressive fast technique from Kuroda Sensei once. Verry interesting. thx for sharing. Osu
Reminds me of how in judo you need to be relaxed and have your joints be "soft"and flexible to avoid getting hurt but still having a tight grip of the opponent when needed. Plus using those super short moments of strength.
Still, might be something I will never actually learn, every coach I had no matter which martial art I was learning told me I'm too tense and I have no idea how to fix it and be more relaxed
Love how Seiyu sensei explains the Teno uchi. Does he keep the same in Zen Ken Ren iaido?
Bernarda thinking for a while and I would like to ask Seki Sensei: how would you fight against a kuda-yari (ie Owari Kan-ryu)?
Most respectful gitgud I've ever seen
Are the pinky and thumb fingers loose until you're competing the swing?
Edit - never mind. I think I figured out my answer from some of your other videos. I just hope I'm practicing right. I will find out eventually when I have the money to start training with Seki sensei. I just had to put a lot of your videos together to get the answer I needed. Thank you for all of your videos! 🙏
スイングのときは小指。薬指、中指で握って、親指の腹に中指の側面を付けるように振るかと思います。
One of my friends wanted to spar with me, so I brought out my bokken. He decided he was just gonna go viking style swinging, hard grip, while I had the opposite, a soft grip. When I parried his attacks softly, his bokken shattered but mine remained unharmed. I turned it into a wakizashi since the length it broke at feels perfect to me to still use effectively, I just shaped the tip and trimmed the handle. Mind you these were not high quality pieces and he shouldn’t have been swinging so hard in the first place.
Grip the long sword with a rather floating feeling in your thumb and forefinger, with the middle finger neither tight nor slack, and with the last two fingers tight. It is bad to have play in your hands.
When you take up a sword, you must feel intent on cutting the enemy. As you cut an enemy you must not change your grip, and your hands must not "cower".
When you dash the enemy's sword aside, or ward it off, or force it down, you must slightly change the feeling in your thumb and forefinger. Above all, you must be intent on cutting the enemy in the way you grip the sword.
The grip for combat and for sword-testing is the same. There is no such thing as a "man-cutting grip".
Generally, I dislike fixedness in both long swords and hands. Fixedness means a dead hand. Pliability is a living hand. You must bear this in mind
(c) Some PvP god from 17th century
Like calligraphy ❤🎉
should do a vid on nodachi cutting vid, sicne i saw shadaversity reviewing one and having trouble with edge alignment rolling downwards. i dont think any of those guys formally trained how to use a nodachi though, so they might be doing some stuff wrong without knowing
Theres a scene in Star Wars Clone Wars 2003/5 (and I'm really dating myself here) wherein Dooku is training with General Grievous in lightsaber fighting, and at one point Dooku critiques Grievous's grip for being too tight, then too light. I wonder if Gendy was inspired by this aspect of swordfighting.
Similar to boxing, you're finding angles to attack and defend.
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This gentleman is pretty dang cool.
Can we please have a close up of how to grip it? How to start out and the "ringing out the cloth" part? It's just hard to tell exactly what's going on..
How to use DAISHO show the steps and history
Same grip that's used in Kendo, also something that was passed down is you should grip as if you were griping eggs.
that loose grip and ability to re-apply force with the cut has to mean that the wrist and grip is well trained.
I'm sorry. When Seki Sensei displayed the kata at the end, it looked like there were no frames in between the sharp edge going left and then flipping to turn right.
If you really wanted to do the online lessons but were limited in space specifically the height of my ceilings. could I do the lessons with a Wakizashi or is that just not a feasible idea.
We do have some students who do that! Or possibly purchasing a short Uchi-katana! tozandoshop.com/letsaskshogo
Hello. This question is not specific to this video. I am trying to locate some historically accurate information on different methods of tying the sageo… specifically one method that involves using it to “lock” the katana in the saya.
Can you assist with this?
Should I slide my thumb forward when the katana is moving down or when I'm about to swing?
Does the last technique work like kojiro sasaki's tsubame-gaeshi?
How far from each other should your hands be? And what are your thoughts on close hand tenouchi? Like almost touching each other?
Funny same is rule for longsword.
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If I may ask a terminology question: What are the differences between 会 and 兵法 such as on the banners within the dojo?
会 Kai means group/association, 兵法 Hyōhō means the art of war/fighting!
@@letsasksekisensei Thank you very much!
Greetings Shogo and Seki Sensei.
Ive been following you for a while now, I do train Kenjutsu myself. Our Sensei showed us a Kata where you bring your "saya" behind you (at you back) to the other side "right side" of your body, and then you draw your sword from there (the sword is between your shoulder and hips) and then you draw up and cut down.
I was practicing ist but I dont get it perfect... Is there something like that in your style that I you could explain in order to help me?
ありがとうございます。❤
Is there any difference in grip when you draw and attack with one hand? And do you do the squeezing motion as you swing with a regular vertical attack? Thank you!
Does samidare work against opponents who attack the body rather than hit sword?
In prior videos they covered various attacks to other body parts. Long story made short, they were shut down easier than the head attacks.
In HEMA we mainly parry an in coming attack with the edge of our Longsword. On occasions the flat part is used but it’s not often. Do you guys use your edge of the katana to parry most attacks, or do you use the flat or the back of the sword to prevent edge damage? Your reply would be informative.
From what I’ve seen from these videos, they seem to parry with the flat more, which probably makes sense. The katana blade is a bit thicker and therefore more rigid to absorb that impact while the tapered longsword blade are thinner and will wobble more. But on the flip side, the really hard edge of the katana is also more brittle and will incur more edge damage from edge parrying vs. the longsword.
Of course, in a real fight both will happen with both swords, but seems like katana users prefer to parry with the flat while longsword users prefer to parry with the edge from what I’ve seen.
@@gameragodzilla thank you.
I've been meaning to ask you: what, if any, physical/mental characteristics does Asayama Ichiden ryuu bestow upon the user?
[I'm going to give bad examples here], but Hiten-mitsurugi gives the user impossible speed and perception, and and Kogan-ryuu (Shigurui: Death Frenzy 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩) gives the user a Dojutsu, and an obscure but versatile and deceptive tenouchi, or like Santo-ryuu that lets the user wield three swords.
*Hiten-mitsurugi also gives you immensely powerful jumps, and this is what I should have said first*
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Can you show any techniques using a naginata??!
𐌕𐋅𐌀𐌍𐌊𐌔 𐌀𐌋Ꝋ𐌕.