Why I Will NEVER Get a KTM 1290 Super Duke R
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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If you want sdr 1290 go 2015 bought mine for $8000 sold it after 3years for $7000
You can tell you've never riden a Superduke 😂
Amen!!!!!
I hate cycle cruza
@@sierra659 no need for hate. Love only here
100%😂 Truth…. I hope he gets to rides one because he will be singing a different song. The leader of my riding group recently got one and he let me ride it and I wish I never did because it ruined my bike(MT10) for me And probably every other bike I will ever own in the near future. If I had the money there would be a super Duke in my garage 100%.
Hard to believe he's putting down a world renowned bike that he's never ridden.
Having to pay to unlock things like a quickshifter is ridiculous…this isn’t a video game with fake money!
For $20k+ you should get everything the bike has to offer
Completely agree
This makes them look greedy IMO.
I didn’t even consider not getting it. I just told myself the price is $21K, haha. Yeah it’s kind of cheap for KTM to be playing those games. Other makers do it too.
My dealership worked it in as a discount. So I actually got the Tech Pack for "free" and It has everything included.
poor folk talk
I usually ride a different bike every year. I want to try them all! But I'm on season 3 of owning a 1290r because it's the most fun around town ripper I've ever owned. I can't bring myself to get rid of it, so I'm going to just add another to the arsenal.
You don't know what you're missing until you ride one.
Cool, does the tank bother you at all? If you get a chance do a 450 supermoto build, your mind will be blown.
@@CycleCruza 450 supermoto vs superduke is an apples to oranges comparison. Yes the 450 has its own personality...it's light, versatile, pretty quick and very flickable...but the super duke has it's own personality, too, and it may be more to the liking of some people (or even the same person who is in a certain mood that day). The sheer power and torque of that bike is on a different level and provides a different kind of exhilaration that the 450 simply can't. I say own both if possible because both are great. It's hard to be satisfied with just one bike.
@@T3merity You must never rode a 450 converted supermoto? They just hit much different than any street bike. I owned a 2017 Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 factory that is on par with a KTM SDR, a little less torque but I will tell you the 2019+ YZ450FX supermoto has more raw violent feeling torque at the bottom of the RPM even with a 44 tooth rear sprocket,. Honestly, I don't miss the street bikes but I will get one because this supermoto is only supposed to be a dessert bike not a main bike.
@@CycleCruza I have, actually...and I agree with you, a 450 super moto does have a very aggressive, raw power delivery. It's still different to a massive v-twin supernaked like the superduke, though. I suppose that I should have written a bit more because it isn't JUST about the power delivery, and the power delivery and overall feel of the bike is a nuanced thing. The Superduke is raw, but it also has refinement and performance of a street bike which any 450 obviously doesn't. The feeling is different...and just sitting on a bike like that...knowing that its capable of such high speeds in addition to the ability of comfortably cruising around town...it hits the soul differently. Like I said in my last post, both are great. I wouldn't want to choose between them because they each have their own personalities and I like them both. Some days I want to ride a supermoto, some days I want a naked, some days an adventure bike, etc etc. Its best to own one of each type.
@@T3merity I don't doubt the SDR is a beast, but all production street motorcycles just lack the rawness a 450 dirtbike supermoto gives. It stirs my soul. However, I will say it is something about a Ducati's engine that stirs my soul but not to the level like my 450 supermoto. Idk just my preference, everybody is different.
I just bought a 1290 Duke this past Saturday. Never rode one before and I absolutely love the bike!
Ur making a huge mistake not getting the sdr.. ur comparing a 250 pound thumper to a 400 pound superbike with bars.. it’s not too heavy it has literally zero performance flaws.. u sat on it after getting off ur pip squeak dirt bike and forgot how much a real motorcycle weighs..
"I will never get a Ducati"
Gets a Ducati
"I will never get a KTM"
So when you getting it?
Have you learned his patterns yet? Sometimes I wonder if he consults a psychologist to find out the best way to gain and keep UA-cam channel viewers.
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2020 SDR owner here, you’re missing out Cruza! The tank disappears when you’re riding, you don’t even notice it, but I think it integrates well with leg placement and riding angle. And the weight is not top heavy, it feels nicely balanced when you get going. I’ve owned nakeds, sport bikes and a Harley, this is the best bike I’ve owned. Of course it’s a premium bike, you’re going to pay for it. And I had no issue paying an extra grand for the tech pack, I considered it included with premium price tag.
Going from your bike to nearly anything else that is more street or track focused is going to be a shock. I have a 2020 KTM SDR that I bought for $15K with 1500 miles on it. I now have 7K miles on it year later...this has turn out to be my go to bike.
I would never upgrade to the new electronic suspension as they have never appealed to me as I like the manual set ups and adjustability. But, to each their own. I've owned a lot of bikes over my many years, (HD Fatbob, Ducati Multi, Multi Enduro, Tiger 1050, Speed Trip, Versa, KTM 990 SMT, Honda XR400, Yama YZ250). I've sold my other bikes and now down to the SDR, a 2019 SAR and a 2021 EXC-F 500. I would hate...hate to take the EXC on day long pavement rides...even with SM wheels and tires. If you think the SDR is top heavy, sit on the SAR. Now the EXC is a blast on back country roads or short runs into town, but my bike is built for BDR trips. 1290 bikes maybe heavy to sit on, but they are extremely agile and precise in almost every way. I love to flip the throttle and blast out of BS road/traffic at 80+ MPH. Nothing beats that IMO. So, no...I love the tank set up of all three generations of Dukes and I hope they keep the look and feel of sitting in the bike. The tank style is a trademark for the iconic Duke. I also like to have a few gallons of gas in between fill ups...unlike most off the floor dirt bikes converted to street with less than 2 gallons of gas..
To make a video like this without even riding it is short sighted at best. Truthfully, to each their own and I'm glad all bikes are not cut out the same and appeal to different people. Enjoy your bike and ride safe.
Wow why do you care so much the guy's a dick
Im driving 1290r with full akra exhaust and i never drive anything close fun as ktm...comming from s1000 kawasaki and multistrada.
Ktm 1290 and bmw s1000rr are best on the market end of story :)
I came from the h2 and I prefer the sdr it’s comfortable and fun.
100%
Past 20k is Harley prices and that would be insane for another street bike…KTM is crazy and where you gonna get it serviced?
That dealership I went to services KTM bikes .
It’s not top heavy in any way! The price yeah. Buy second hand! It’s probably one of the best bikes out there
Big ol' HUMP BACK tank ' lol 😆
FOR REAL MAN! 😂
Big ol’ 🐋 whale of a bike
I have the 790 and fucking love it. KTM is great man trust me. I also have a 2022 s1000rr and I prefer my KTM and I've been riding for decades :)
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I’ll try selling the R1250R again: 105 ft lbs torque, just one less ft lb than that Super Duke R 1290; boxer engine means very low center-mass weight; immensely comfortable; no preying mantis look. Only downside is price.
The superduke is not a supermoto for a start, it’s a super naked?, yeah maybe your supermoto might be a bit more fun round those tiny little roads you are on, but I guarantee you 9/10 people would choose a SDR over that bike you are riding if they was on the highway, track or going longer distances (the kind of riding most people do). Also when you are travelling at the kind of speeds a SDR is capable of (way way way above supermoto) you need to be secure in the bike, so having the tall thank and rear seat lock you in is a must. Lastly the centre of balance is just fine, bike was developed on track by an ex racer, I’m sure they know how to set up a bike
Get a new bike already and make new content please, videos are starting to get old man
I might just pick up the new MT-09 SP or MT07. For me, my YZ supermoto is the only bike that excites me every time I get to ride it. Dirt bike supermotos just hit different than refined street bikes.
Have you actually ridden a Super Duke? These are excellent machines and great fun to ride, highly maneuverable/flickable, both the R and GT. There is nothing more fun than these machines, they are pure, naked Hooligans!
Centre of gravity is low because the tank sits low, the raised tank is basically an air box with injector sprays. You need to ride the KTM Super Duke R and you will see that the weight is down low and it handles like a dream! You can’t have an opinion by just looking and sitting on the bike.
Come on Cycle Cruza take it for a spin and then you can comment and I am telling you now it will not be the same as what you commentated ! FACT Trust me
As for fun factor 10/10
I test rode the new SD 1290 and the new mt10. I opted for the mt10. It handles better and it is just better value imo. Dont get me wrong, the sd is nice but it isn't worth the price.
Yeah the mt-10 is a better deal for sure and you never have to worry about reliability with a Yamaha. I'm still waiting for Yamaha to change the Transformer look already. I don't doubt it is fantastic bike tho.
@@CycleCruza they already changed the look man. 2022 MT10 is all new....
no way the mt10 handles better than a superduke, also test rode both, and SD has crisp handling, also way more fun than the yam
@@liam6261 it is also more expensive and not very reliable. I'll stick with Japanese bikes....
@@liam6261 we'll have to agree to disagree then.
A light bike is great but I think you focus on weight too much. You have a light bike, keep it and get a bigger bike! I’ve ridden all kinds of bikes and my favorite is the ktm1090. It’s a ktm so I won’t buy it though lol. This is the same thing as gun guys complaining about a gun that’s 8 more ounces lol. You won’t notice it 99.9 percent of the time. Even if you rode an adv bike just on the street it’s awesome. Your Ducati was hella heavy lol. Ride safe bro.
I own both a 690 smc and a 1290 superduke. Honestly, the superduke has ruined me for any other bike and that includes in the handling department.. Ride it like a big. Supermoto and it’ll blow your mind..! Way more stable and smoother on the edge of the tire compared to the nimble 690. Top heavy? I do not notice it at all.. That slap in the face of torque and how it screams toward the red line..! Ha! Never looking back...
This comment sums up the 1290. People often complain about the weight of the bike but they've never actually twisted the throttle on one and experienced that rip of aggressive power. Not many bikes come close.
2nd gear shifting, clutch popping power wheelies with no rear brake control. This is why he sold his MT-09(never wheelied once) and why he'll never try wheeling anything bigger than a dirt bike. No clutch or brake control. God forbid he buys a SD and can't wheelie it, what will all his new follower's think? Sounds stupid right? I'd put my left nut on it! False pride, also known as posing. Believe it or not, I like CC, he just needs to stop bull💩ing but he wont.
I was in the same boat had a 701sm and bought a ktm1290. The only bike i was ever using was the ktm the power and how smooth it is was next level. I loved the 701 but ended up selling it and just riding the ktm. They handle amazing in the twisties also.
5 years later video title "why I still haven't gotten a new bike"
100%
It came down to my ZH2 and the super Duke r. Ended up getting my ZH2 SE for under 20. They wanted way too much for the Duke
Nice, how does it feel 260kg of bike compared with the 180kg from the superduke? 😂
Have you riden one? I absolutely love mine. It's not meant to compare to a sumo, I get that from my 2022 EXC 500
Cycle Cruza I completely agree with you about top heavy bikes. My Suzuki DRZ400S is top heavy. I've made some mods (light weight lithium battery, lighter headlight faring, removed passenger pegs) to reduce the top Heaviness. But it's still top heavy. I may install a light weight exhaust. Top heavy bikes are actually dangerous. Top Heaviness acts like an upside down pendulum. If the front tire washes out on a top heavy bike, it will slam you into the ground with force. The DRZ400S top Heaviness may not be curable due to the the high ground clearance putting the motor at a high center of gravity.
I recently bought a new 1290 SD-R but more recently traded it off for a 2022 MT10. The SDR was a FANTASTIC motorcycle. However the ergonomics were a bit weird, particularly the bars. And the switch gear was probably the worst I have ever experienced. And it did a weird thing, auto blipping the throttle at about 4,000 rpm during deceleration that was quite annoying. But all the big things were tits... power, brakes, suspension, handling.... Best dash I have ever seen / used. Sounded good, etc, etc. But for me, the MT10 is just a better bike. Bike and rider become one, as everything is just seamless. No constant little annoyances like with the KTM.
How much did you end up paying out the door for it? Did you get the SP version?
Say the true, to much bike for you... MT10 is 20kg heavy, more fuel comsuption and much less torquie...
What year is your Super Duke R and what year is your MT10?
Every sdr owner agrees with you on the fact the tech or track pack should come with it at that price
I plan on buying one soon, and the extra $1K feels stupid. Just market it that way... no one who can afford it is buying it without the quickshifter...
@@crunks420did you get your super Duke? I just picked mine up this past Wednesday... even tho I agree with how stupid paying for the tech pack is I was able to have my dealer throw it in with a 5 year warranty and the first service 👍🏻 this bike is soo worth the extras
@@thatwoodguy104 yes! Got it last Saturday. It is a blast. Tech pack is def worth it.
Yea its pricy. I got the tech pack thats the track pack plus more for under 700.
I came off of a 07 sv1000s and the 1290 sdr felt lighter not as top heavy. Seating was better im able to set more up right and still able to scoot back and lay into it. You say centralize the weight but all they did was build everything around the engine with less frame for the gen 3.
Idk I love my 2021 sdr.
Hey, big fan of your channel! Currently I own a 2022 ktm 500 excf with some mods.and I agree with you that on road dirtbikes are were its at! I also have a 2021 ktm 690 smc-r and absolutely love the bike,it feels just like my 500 and is a great hooligan bike is just just a bit heavier. But the fuel tank is under the seat so it doesn't feel top heavy. Keep them vids coming!
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Nice bikes! I've been wanting to add a 690 SMC R myself. I'd like to have a collection of supermotos. However, the supermoto dirt bikes just hit different than refined street bikes. My YZ has a raw violent nature that I love that I have never experienced on street bikes.
In a week or so I have a review vid coming out on my UA-cam channel, check it out if you get a chance...quick shifter is included in the software 😁
I shared the same perspective until I road one. Even if you'll never own one, I'd highly recommend taking one out for a day. I've the privilege to work on and ride every euro naked model except Triumphs. The Dukes of all sizes have been stupid fun.
Stop judging a bike just by sitting on it !
You can’t say a bike is top heavy unless you ride it !
The ktm1290 is a weapon it has an exceptional chassis ! Ride it on the track to get a real feel for the bike !
Ktm makes an supermoto 450 that kicks ass
Just took delivery of a 24' KTM 1390 EVO R (Black and Orange) last week. AMAZING power and refinement. TONS of electronic with an amazing TFT. She is a big girl but shes got a lot of power and TQ and its a blast for a long ride..
Try the 890 bro & see how you feel.
Once you get the taste of a SuMo’s abilities and handling, it’s pretty difficult to select another bike
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@@CycleCruza yep
Don’t like the Super Duke? don’t buy it… but don’t mind about making a video talking about a bike you haven’t had the chance to drive. Get a bike you want and make content, that’s what we all care about
I seen a guy straight moving around this sweeping bend on a Ducati Hypermotard.
90° V-2, Sumo package.
They've gotta be fast, relatively light, I think the look cool always took interest in em.
Ducati reliability though, and Ducati price.
Ripped an 04 monster. I gotta say. Ducati is the Maseratis of the bike world.
Have you considered the klx300SM ?
Less oil change intervals
When own a 450 supermoto it is hard to go to anything less. I had thought about trying a KTM 690 smc r.
Weight down low does not make a bike more flickable when riding, only while not moving. Manufactures will raise the engine mounts on race bike to make them more flicable. Makes sense if you think of steering the bike under the weight.
It helps to be a bit of a beast to ride the beast, saying that, it’s part of the fun. Had the DRZ 400sm two completely different styles and handling. Had loads of fun and confidence on the drz and my pre 2021 mt09 but….. again the SDR requires a whole next level of respect and understanding to get the most out of her. Absolutely love the gen 1 &2 styling. I’ve had mine for 2 years and still learning.
For sure, I owned a 17' Tuono V4 1100 factory which is just as much of a beast BUT still not as much fun as a 450 supermoto. If your state allows, do a 450 supermoto build as a dessert bike to mess around on. A 450 dirt bike supermoto conversion is like night a day compared to a drz400sm. 450's race dirt bikes are RAW af and wild.
@@CycleCruza oooooooooh the tuono is on the list! I’ve an xr400 project ongoing. Dirt to slick.
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@@CycleCruza tell you what! I’ve just taken the triumph 660 trident out and it’s a very very good mix!
You tried to buy 2 but you dont like the bike? Stop trying to talk yourself out if it and just buy one.
I have the 890...I love it.
So it didn't feel great stationairy ? Did I get that right ?
Sounds like a great reason not to buy it.... ..... Makes sense I suppose 🤔...
Right!?! He’s gotta twist that throttle and all those little gripes will disappear.
@@kmfiz He's got to ride the damn thing and then see what's what.
@@literal_lee Exactly. He don’t know what he’s missing. If he wants to be a Moto UA-camr he’s got to branch out. Not just sit on a bike and say nah I don’t like it.
What about the kawasaki z900? Comes with 950cc and tft display. Cheap
What about an XSR900?
What about a Z900SE?
What about a GSX-S1000?
What about an FTR1200?
What about a 890 Duke R?
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He doesn't actually give a flying rip what the viewers suggest he try. He wants to buy a tool and never have that tool break. And the tool must be lightweight. Sometimes I wonder what's the real tool, the motorcycle or his viewers?
That bike will last you forever CycleCruza!
I'm eventually going to have a top end rebuild done and get it fully serviced but need to add another bike before then. I might just pick up a new mt09 sp or a mt07.
@@CycleCruza get the Ktm 890 duke r, trust you will thank me. And you may even question do I need to keep the supermoto?
@@thejudge3040
Those 890s man. They really look like 250cc bikes, first time I saw one I was shocked man shiiit.
I think that's a good recommendation.
I have an SDR 2020. I get what you're saying.
I've been tempted to trade it in and get 2 bikes instead of just the one..
But I can't bring myself to do it! I like the power.
Which two bikes? A sport dual and RR ?
Check out the Yamaha R1 or BMW 1000rr. I don't think you can even start KTM bikes until the dealer unlocks the ECU to prevent theft.
I used to own a gen 3 SDR and I was so in love that I decided to upgrade to the Evo. That said, i completely agree with you: we're all different and I can completely understand someone else can dislike it. Apart from that, it's an expensive bike but less than its competitors while, for me at least, the fun factor on the road (not on track) is superior ✌
I owned a 2020 sdr, traded it in for a 2022 ducati street fighter v4s, been having that for 5 months now. Now I want a bmw s1000rr, i just can't make up my mind.
Is the evo worth it? i'm thinking about getting one, but I don't feel like the weight penalty is worth it
@@redline9221 Not sure, the standard setting was already very effective. I’d say it’s a very nice to have ✌️
@@giovanniricci4369 I'm also worried about bugs or reliability a few years later
@@redline9221 I put 10500 km on the first gen 3: no issues at all. Had a « MTC error » which popped up on the Evo, KTM replaced a valve at about 1500 km and thereafter no issues whatsoever (now I’m at 10000 km) ✌️
You can’t tell anything about the center of gravity just by sitting on it. Take it out and ride it and you realize the c.g. is very low as compared to other Super Nakeds.
I'm not sure where your channel is going. I'm confused
It's why I have a garage full!
Nice! I want to get back to that.
Ya I've been watching your content for years now even had a WR250R for awhile ended up selling it as well for a TRX700XX LOL like I said I have one of each
Why the hell are you calling the superduke “setup like a supermoto”?? In what way? The SDR literally defined the hypernaked category its a totally different thing from a supermoto nor is is trying to be one
I sat on one and thought the same thing about the huge tank. I then rode it and fell right in love. Ride it mate.
Luckily, I got a used 21’ SDR W/ 2,100 miles. Loaded with AR exhaust and all the track/tech pack. OTD $14k. Insurance is cheaper than my 16 yr old Bking. $148 per year.
People have different preferences but basing your opinions on not riding a bike, and just looking at the price, it's a bit weird. I have had two of them, the current one is the 23 Evo R, and the fun-factor on those bikes are beyond anything I've ever experienced. So maybe try one for a while first, and see if your preference change a bit.
Hate to tell you but top-heavy bikes are great. The reason is that when you're leaning the bike over etc. it helps the rider with that task.
I’ve been following you for years just got rid of a 97 Gsxr Srad 600 waste of time that was just want to keep running right and got this Kawasaki Z 1000 I am in love it’s just like what you’re talking about here super likable almost 400 pounds doesn’t feel like it
I’m here again to tell you to buy a Honda Grom…. Your really missing out.
Just recently picked up a 1290 evo myself. The dealer just package all the unlocks in as a discount deal (Australia) so that was an easy decision for me. This is my 3rd 1290SDR and just test ride it and it might change your mind. One of the best daily commuter.
which dealer may i ask? i'm in the market at the moment (australia) thank you!
@@monjue4459 Peter Stevens Ringwood. Mind you this was before the inflation freak out we're having right now and the dealers were thinking they couldn't move stock let alone the incoming lack of supply.
Why the fuck should any one pay to unlock a bike you already bought
@baldguysquattinginthedark6100 5000% agreeing with you. Told the dealer I was willing to walk away to Aprilia and see if the new Tuono is miles better than my current Tuono which it really isn't. They don't know that. Hence why they packaged in as a whole package. This isn't EA games and we're not paying for lootboxes and cosmetic. We're paying for top of the range bike that should have no performance options unchecked.
@@hellothere4342 oh yeah. It gets me mad
Bro! Stop hating my on Ktm, you had an Aprilia which has the same issues as a Superduke. Ride it until warranty runs out. You’re missing out big time
man get you a mt10 cyclecruza I got kind of bored with only having a supermoto I missed the power of my zx10 so I got a mt10 best of both worlds and the cross plane 4 sounds orgasmic
Have you ever did a 450 dirt bike supermoto build or did you get a manufactured supermoto? If you never did a 450 supermoto build do it and you'll never get bored. The violent bottom end torque gets me excited every time.
MT10 is a great bike. That would be on my short list if I was in the market for a hyper naked.
@@CycleCruza I actually did a conversion I have a 09 Ktm 530exc I own it I still love it but I recently traded my 2021 690smcr for the mt10 I will never be done with supermoto but only having a supermoto didn't work for me I still need that power and comfort for long rides lmao but yea you aint kidding about the torque ive got a handbrake on my 530 for wheelies I just love how easy you can pop that thing up any time nice and lightweight too the 690 was a heavy heavy pig
@@kugangles9860 I absolutely love mine I just got a 2022 the front end is a little bit ugly but honestly the last generation mt10's had an ugly front end too at least the new one looks more modern
@@psyfertech Waiting on mine to be delivered. September is all they're telling me at the moment. WANT IT NOW!!!!
I bought a used 2015 super duke r for 11k and put just under 5k in repairs because the last owner kicked the shit out of it. but it has been worth every penny. only bike that fits me and does not kill my knees. I am 6,5 tall tho
Had a friend who was into weightlifting and all that health food stuff when the Incredible Hulk TV show came on, I thought he would live to be a hundred, he died last month, ate up with cancer. I'm thinking man, you already know life can be short; waiting might not be good. You walked right past that Rocket 3, money to burn for touring across country by motorcycle vs Super Duke price.
Hahahahha I know exactly how indecisive and how angry my friends get that I can't make up my mind and miss a bunch of rides. Honestly, you'd love 890 Duke, lots of lightweight torque and buy a classic cool bike with the leftover money....
They never have a 890 at the store, it is always sold before it arrives to the dealer. lol So it must be great.
The 890 is the better bike in every way unless you're talking about track days. The 890 just gets passed by literbikes too much and then they bow up in the curves and slow you up. Make it extremely frustrating. But on the street, the 890 is Def where it's at!
SDR was never meant to be a supermoto. It is one of the only if not the only bespoke hypernaked bike out there. Every other hypernaked out there is just a less "faired" version of a superbike.
I love my SDR EVO. I love my ZH2. And I loved my MT09 when I had it, each for their own reasons.
The KTM SDR EVO is its own thing. If you're complaining about it being too top heavy then you have expectations based off other bikes that are nothing like it. You get the SDR for what it is and how it is, just like you get a dirtbike with street tires because it is its own thing with different qualities. I had someone look at my SDR EVO and they complained about "it's wheelbase being too long" yet they had never ridden the EVO. Same guy looked at my ZH2 and complained about it being too heavy, also never having ridden a ZH2! 🤷♂
I also have a Grom and I dont complain that it is slow, vibrates and bottoms out easily. I like it for what it is and what it does.
Unfortunately many manufacturers will eventually be doing the pay-to-play thing where you must pay extra to unlock the features. All we can do is enjoy what we have and can get now because later in the future the public will accept it and there will be no going back.
Be safe out there.
Have you considered the Ducati Hypermotard 950 SP
If you can get a test ride on the KTM, it might be much different than you think. I've owned a couple bikes that seemed very top heavy when sitting on them and not moving but when ridden at more than 5 miles per hour, they felt perfectly balanced. I agree with you on the price though, that's outrageous.
It wasn't just it being top heavy but didn't feel right for me. I'm sure the torque is fun.
@@CycleCruza Ah that makes sense. I know the feeling. Some bikes make a nerve in my neck painful while others are totally comfortable.
How tall are you? Because I know that's a bike that fits taller riders the most.
You should take a look at the 890r to spend less and have a similar level of fun on the streets.
A lot of bikes that feel top heavy when they're not moving don't feel like it when you're riding. I ride a Multistrada. It's a heavy bike when you're pushing it around. The moment you're feet up and rolling just 5mph it's a kitten. The weight is concealed by the geometry and the balance. I think about buying different bikes, but I've had it for 7+ years now and I'm always happy with it when I'm riding it.
Hey CC seems that maybe,,,,,,, you're getting "OLD"? Think about it. Me, my age, 59, I look at all of these newer type of M/C's, and I don't like 'em. I don't like they're looks. I've owned a newer> ('04 Yami FJR), big bike, powerful, great gas mileage, ABS braking.. yada, yada, yada. I've kept it for a year , put 1k miles, and then sold it and kept my '81 Yami XS1100H. It's air-cooled, (w/stock oil cooler) lots of power, (not as much as an FJR 95bhp=XS/FJR= 143bhp) but , I could load down that XS1100 with over 100lbs of gear on the luggage rack plus a big, Tank BAG (eclipse, same as back in the 80's)and if I put on my saddle bags, even more room to put STUFF. This old UJM is, (in MY OPINION) way, way better than ANY of the new(er) bikes that are made NOW A DAYS! So CC, maybe you might be getting old...
Dude comparing a SDR to a dirtbike with street tires. Yeah bro, it has a 5 gallon tank. A sumo has like 1.5 or 2. Look at the 690. Walks all over that YZF
I think best choice to for you is moped, you will enjoy the weight, you can lift and carry anywhere you go!
I don’t even notice the tank while I’m riding my ktm superduke and I have a tank bag on it and don’t even see that either 😂
That thing has no power. I would be embarrassed to ride a yz. Ktm al the way. You never know how good ktms are until you have one. Especially a 2 stock
😂I've owned a cbr600rr, cbr1000rr, Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factpry. Trust me, the wild bottom end grunt torque on this race dirt bike supermoto has never had me lusting for more power. Even with 44/13 gearing you just blip the throttle and it power wheelies. You should try one and then you'll understand. I'm not the only motovlogger saying this. Go look at other motovloggers that did 450 supermoto builds.
Look CycleCruza I been a fan of the Chanel for a long time and all you do now it's complain about motorcycle and talk bad about them. The worst thing is that you've never ridden the motorcycle and you talk bad about it. You should get a real dirt bike like a ktm 300 xcw on the single track boy you will have some fun. 4 strokes motorcycle suck on the dirt. That's why you are not having fun on the trails. Also just buy a bike stop the bs
I don’t understand why so many want to buy this bike. Can’t ever imagine to pay extra for unlocking something that is already installed. Ktm seems to like taking advantage of ignorant customers though.
It’s a good name though, “the beast”, ugly as one for sure.
How could you compare a Supernaked with a Supermoto ???
My bmw f800st has a fuel tank under the seat feels weight less not to mention the super Dukes cost of insurance
Imaging going in to a car dealership and sitting in a sports car and just going "id never buy this, it isn't good" without ever even starting it up.....much less driving it....
Bro, these bikes you are talking about are not in the same universe in what they are. I had some fast expensive fine bikes and super bikes including 17 Tuono V4 1100 Fac and I do have 500EXCF for that matter. My 2020 Gen3 has 18000 miles now and it is the god damn benchmark for me for street riding. It handles impeccably for fast flowing riding and the engine is beyond great especially with Akra map and exhaust. I loved Tuono , but Gen 3 SDR is better without a doubt. You gotta ride it. But yeah big engine flagships will be more expensive.
did you lowered the YZ? you slide into the seat look easy. Even with 17 inch wheel, the seat height is still 38 inches
How can u say u don't like it if u didn't ride it
Yo son that is the easiest valve check of any bike ever made I would be more worried About the piston how they go is the bottom skirt gets weak and breaks and that piece of piston destroys everything even possibly the transmission do that top end and have piece of mind when you think there is enough hours that it be required
They are absolutely ripping people off on making people pay extra for the track pack and tech packs on their bikes.
Electronically limiting features is a hard pass for me.
They're trying to compete on a spec sheet with a price and features but not including the features in the price.
Moto reviewers really need to start putting price as equipped as the only price they state in their comparison videos.
Bro, get the 2022 Mt 10 SP already!
Weird. I had a 2015 SD 1290RThe thing I like about it is how light it felt. Even though it's the same weight as my current bike, it felt quite a bit lighter. I completely agree on the price and I don't love how KTM warranties work, not a fan of the KTM dealer network, their attention to detail, reliability, etc.
I briefly had the new Duke 890r. Super fun and plenty of power for my daily local twisties. Turns out I’m a super moto guy now.
I'm a both guy. I love my 690 SMC R and my 890 Duke R. Depends on my mood. Sumo is a gas though!
This guy is just a nonstop flow of stupid comments and a lot of really bad info.
Its only heavy when you're stationary on it, second gear and it feels like feather 🚫🧢
That's cool Cyclecruza, to each his own. I recently ordered a KLX 300 to explore about a million local trails. I can't wait!! My Gixer is fun for the street but I need to try the dual sport life!
Hi, im CycleCruza and welcome to the all in one Yamaha YZ 450 FX motorcycle channel! Aye Cruza you're my guy but just be honest and say you're never buying anew bike again. It's always going to be something you don't like about a bike you dislike but you are hating everything now.
I also have a Sur Ron X electric dirt bike and a e-bike. I will be adding another motorcycle because this YZ is not meant to be a main bike. I might just get a new mt-09sp or a mt-07.
Cyclecruza, whu don't you build another YZF450 SuperMoto 500cc big bore and build the bike more or better than your current one. We understand what you're saying now and like you said, you don't know how much longer your current one will last.
The Gen3 Duke ain’t the same as the Gen1 and 2. I got a Gen2 and I’ve ridden the Gen3, it was very uncomfortable and had weird ergos. If you can find one, look at a Gen2.
I have owned a gen 2 and now i have a gen 3.
The gen 2 was more upright riding position, the gen 3 is a bit more sporty, a more aggresive riding position, its more track oriented.
I do a lot of track riding and for that its great fun.
Someone in the comments said it has a bad turning ratio, thats far from the truth, it turns great.
Once you get moving down the road fuel weight is far less prevalent. All litre plus bikes are weighty off the stand to a degree.
Too much of the 450 life LOL.
You shouldn’t talk about something, until you ride it. I’ve been riding for 40 years, have owned everything from motocross, to super bikes, but the 1290 R ? It’s insane torque!! Have others, but this bike I will never sell. Ride one, you’ll see.
Dude really going "you know what i hate about the new Corvette, man? It's not a Miata!!!"
what do you think about the WR450F 2022 with the performance upgrade
the super duke r just looks good right off the floor the cat is hidden well the tail isnt even obnoxious it might be a little heavier than some of the super nakeds but thats pretty easily remedied with an exhaust and a few other the bike just looks amazing the price is up there but I do believe you get what you pay for torque and more torque you dont have ring its neck for the guys and gals that can really appreciate what its built for.
anyone who has ride the super duke has wanted it... if you don't have it it's because of your lack of purchasing power!!!😂😂