These type of reviews are what made me buy my 2023 1290 SuperDuke R Evo last week (but with full titanium Akrapovic system and map of course). Can’t wait to collect next week!!!
I’ve done the Superduked 10mm link and 16/40 gears with a 114 chain. Completely changed how the bike turns in. SO much easier to change direction now. Highly recommend.
@@701_ben I don’t think you will regret it. With that setup you looking at adding 24mm to rear ride height. It’s going to turn a lot better, and won’t run wide in turns like the stock set up which puts the axel at 12 o’clock in the hub, This puts the rear in the lowest position possibleX, with fork angle raked out mor, and an increased trail measurement of under 103mm, stock trail is just under 108mm. It’s going to accelerate a lot better with the gearing, and not going to be as chuggey at cruising speeds as the stock gearing.
Just turned 46, this is my 30th year riding on the street and I'm lucky enough to have owned over 30 motorcycles during that time... if I could only have 1 bike, I'd have my SDR. Best all-arounder I've ever owned. It's also ideal for anyone over 190cms.
@@DaveDayve All the non Asian bike brands can have issues. KTM is no different. I have a 2017, 18k miles on the clock. No issues. 100% worth it even if there are issues from time to time. Best bike ever.
@@DaveDayveI honestly think reliability issues are a thing of the past... people still dwell on things they heard years ago, or a reputation that was created decades ago... My KTM is bullet proof, and it's probably one of the most heavily modified SDRs on the planet. I have $25k+ in parts on it, and I abuse the shit out of it, and it's still running hard.
@@mrkang4080 that's good to here. I had a 2 new KTMs one just dogged with issues till the end of warranty so I sold it. This happened only few yrs ago. And if you follow the likable rider, he and his mates got sick of these issues with the SDR
Wanted to upgrade from my gen 2 to a new one, but the gen 2 is way more comfortable, more raw, and way more analog. Those are attributes I like in a motorcycle so I will continue to keep my gen 2.
Great video. I’d ordered a new Pikes Peak last September to be here for March this year. This was to replace a V4 Multistrada as a do it all sports bike as I am of a certain age. I was then told that delivery was delayed and they weren’t sure when I would get it .I’d taken time off in March to ride it. A friend had a new Super duke R Evo which I loved the look of but had never ridden. My local dealer JD Racing had a deal on plus they would give me the tech pack. So I bought one thinking I would trade it back in as and when the Pikes Peak finally turned up. I absolutely fell in love with this thing. I’ve done a couple of mods to to it sensible things like rad guards etc. I already had heated grips and tyre pressure monitors fitted. I then had the SC Projects road slip on fitted which gives it a better sound and looks OE. The Pikes Peak eventually turned up which is also a brilliant bike, but I just couldn’t bring myself to get rid of the Super duke. I love that thing so much.. Hence forth I now have two expensive bikes in the garage and no money in the bank 😂😂😂. Still, you can’t take it with you!!! 😅
-Bought mine about 3 months ago - my second SD. My son who's a natural on a mc and experienced plenty of my past bikes states this is the best one I've ever had. Only EVO's available at my purchase date - wanted manual adjustment. There's still some sorting to do on the electronics for on occasion a "traction control malfunction" warning comes on and it cuts off a chunk of my power band and slows me suddenly. I get suspension malfunction warnings as well. Also I get a warning of the keyfob being out-of-range and it freaks me out in thinking I've dropped or lost my key and I'll be screwed when I turn the bike off. I love the riding position and find it quite comfortable. I've seen some peeps have put SuperAdventure S risers on their handlebars but no need for me. There's also a micro fairing just in front of my instruments that for me keeps wind buffeting just a mild disturbance around my arms and upper shoulder. Works great. Here in California, USA I can split lanes so I have folding bar-end mirrors which clean up my forward view as well -Gives me the added perception of flying through space and time. Last downside: impatience can crop up in traffic and others seem to me moving incredibly slow.
I scored a '21 Gen 3 new warranty demo base model which I am loving and running in . I got the Akro full ti with the ecu flash and tech pack fitted before picked up . What a machine , gone a little crazy with Ohlins ttx and BST wheels and other nice bits . 55 yo and carrying extra pork and old wounds , so I am finding it very comfortable . Excellent reviews on all your Suoerduke vids , helped me decide so cheers mate .
I've just completed my first year on the bike - my 12 mo. service interval. It may be the finest motorcycle I've ever owned. Issues of note for me are that the clutch flued somehow gains air over time and requires bleeding, the predicative estimated mileage indicator is not to be relied upon; the front break rubs the pads which one can hear when pushing the bike around with the engine off, and it does seem to eat a bit of oil and coolant over time, warning notifications come on unexpectedly when out in the field but will go away if the bike is turned off for a minute or so and, small niggle, the two oil drain ports spill oil directly onto the exhaust. I get much better mileage than with my previous MT-10 and Tuono's so, big power yet some range. It's my 2nd SD and I attest that the engine is way better around town at slower speeds. It's pretty much everything I want in a motorcycle and it will be hard to find anything else that is overall as competent.
I got myself the Gen 2 earlier this year, I've had alot of different bikes, almost tried it all, except for cruisers, but this is the greatest thing i've ever owned. Thanks for your videos on the beast! It made me go that route :D
I had from new a 2016 gen 1 1290 Super Duke R special edition, my first ever new bike, until I was T boned last year by a lad in a BMW, and the bike was written off, so with the insurance dosh I got a 2015 gen1 Super Duke R with some very nice mods done by previous owners low milage and I had new front discs and sintered pads put on,also a map and full Boddis system it sounds like a Moto GP bike, not ridden it yet as it's taken over a year to get back to normal, with titanium bits in me and lots of physio, but having a bike in the garage even though it's not ridden yet is my incentive, I need to be fully fit to cope with a modified 1290 SDR, been enjoying watching your channel must say, roll on spring and ill be out.😊😊
Good man chopsy,traded my 2021 v2 panigale for the beast, without a doubt best decision I ever made ,it’s an event every time I ride it ,grin from ear to ear machine , in the words of a famous sports shoe brand ,Just do it
I bought a 2016 about 3 weeks ago, I love it... completely changed my thinking about superbikes and supersports for the street, honestly. Unless i come across a decent deal on a hayabusa I'll probably wont be buying anything but hypernaked bikes anymore.... much more comfortable, and just flat out easier in traffic. plus that super duke r is just a fun time everytime you start the engine... I'm hoping to put it and my '08 ducati 1098 on the track soon
I still have my Gen1 that I bought in 2015. Like you, I have done tons of work on it and I feel I have made it about as close to perfect as it gets. My son has a Gen2 and I wouldn't trade him for anything. A few of my friends have the Gen 3 and I'm not even a little interested in those bikes. I much prefer the raw, stripped down, no frills version that is the Gen1 especially with it set up like mine is. But I agree, the Superduke is still king of the naked bikes.
I love my SDR. I had all Gen and stays with the 2021 as I can use it as an all rounder. I commute, go for a ride in twisties, tour with my wife and go on track. Some other bikes are more efficient I.e. Tuono but I find the SDR just so fun not to mention the look (love it or hate it). For those who want to improve track behavior I strongly recommend superduked UA-cam channel
As an sdr owner urself have u had any problems as there seems to be alot of let's say bad ownership problems from other folk,that's the only reason I didn't go for 1 and got a 22 plate mt10
@@elvisthewart670 I don’t know if I’m lucky or if it’s just general reliability but I never had an issue. Not even an electronic glitch. And I’m using the bike all year long. What I heard tho is that reliability was a nightmare before Ktm was bought by Pierer. Since then it highly improved
I am a happy third-generation owner. I have always had supersport bikes, but the fun you have on mountain roads with this bike is embarrassing. Last week I rode 1800 km in 4 days through the hills and mountain passes of Italy and I didn't have a half a pain in my arms, butt or legs... on Saturday it had been a rainy day, rain map and the delivery becomes a butter. Taking advantage of the engine's torque, the fuel consumption is really low. It's simply the bike that everyone should have in their garage. I'm addicted to it. I don't think I'll ever have an engine other than this under my ass again. Front tyre to the skyyyyy!!!! ❤
I see Chopsy on a SDR, I click. You're so right about the Evo not really being worth it - the suspension on the R is so good. £14k is a steal, and it's not like a new version will make this a worse bike...
Not only is the manual suspension on the SDR one of, if not, the best suspension systems in the entire category of nakeds, you would need to fall into a niche category of bike riders for the electronic semi-active system of the EVO to both make sense as a purchase option and to also get more enjoyment from the SDR EVO setup.
I do appreciate these Super Naked's I like looking at others on them. I felt I looked rather silly dismounting after (a massively enjoyable) test ride, like a middle aged man getting out of a soft top sports car in a pair of sliders and white socks. Oh and £14K a steal? for weekend/ track day motorcycle? I'm in the wrong game.
I have the Gen 3 and found the bike lives up to its name, added a few extras like exhaust, small screen, bits of carbon etc and i have not liked a bike like this ever, its amazing Mr Chops with the S22s on it, not the evo but the suspension is dialed in easy, also im only 5 foot 5 and put the lowering kit on it and you cant do that on first Gen bikes, only dropped it an inch or so but made all the diff to me and did not affect the handling, i did regear it also as you mentioned, front and back
I’ve got an EVO on order to replace my 890 Duke R. Weighing only 10 stone and being vertically challenged (28-29” inside leg) my biggest concern was would the suspension cope and the seat height. However, the EVO adjusted itself perfectly for my and running in dynamic mode it lightened the damping around town and dual carriageways but firmed up on the back roads. Test riding a BMW S1000R its suspension didn’t seem to vary for me in dynamic mode so guess I’m not heavy enough. It was a lovely bike but lacked the low down immediate grunt of the SDR. Another advantage of the EVO is that it’s possible to adjust the ride height, so it could be +10mm on sports riding or -10mm for motorways or for me U-turns. That makes the EVO worth the extra money for me. Awesome videos keep them coming. And scratch your itch and buy the SDR 😉
The problem is you lower the bike with less preload, that not the way to do it. You bike is more into rear travel b4 you even hit a bump, it’s a compromised system, you can’t swap spring rate either as it’s algorithm is based on the stock spring rates.
I don't think the height adjustment is done through preload as that should be based on your weight. As you say, the preload setting will affect your position within the suspension stroke so if you're close to the top or bottom it may be necessary to change the springs for a different spring rate. If the ride height is adjusted through preload that will reduce the useable weight range of the spring.@@bryansuperduke1290r
Had my Gen 3 for three years end of next month, finally got round to doing track days on it this year, got 4th evening at Brands on 31st. I can’t see any replacement for it yet! Don’t get Evo as you can’t change the spring rate. I have an end can, Eric’s +20mm rear suspension link plates, 16/40 sprockets with 2 link longer chain, stiffer rear spring, 7mm front preload spacers and a set up, that’s all it needs
Yes! This is why they have all these issues Before they’re sorting out all the issues they come out with a brand new architecture and newer issues… go figure these wacky Austrians 😅😅
I still seriously want one of these. I do wish you wouldn’t use aggressive as a description though Chops. I don’t really know what that means in relation to riding position or brake feel. Great review though, makes me want one even more!
Top class review as always Chopsy! You know your stuff and always provide great and reliable Insight into what we want to know. Keep up the amazing work!
I have a 2022 KTM 690 SMCR and recently acquired a 2023 Moto2 Street Triple RS. I took the KTM for a service and got a 1290 Superduke R EVO as courtesy and it's all I can think about since. It's an absolute riot. So effortless. Absolutely in love with it and the kicker is you can get an ex-demo 23 plate with no miles on for nearly 5k less than asking... If only there wasn't rumours of a 1390!
I agree 100% that the V twin gives you the power where you need it. I dont ride on the road bouncing on the limiter. I do hope they stay with the twin rather than going to a v4.
Had my Gen 3 almost 3 years, absolutely outstanding bike. Got rid of it 3 weeks ago as due to 10 broken or collapsed vertebrae in my back due to cancer it was just painful to ride. Got Super Adventure instead! 😂
Picked mine up last week. Like nothing else I’ve ever ridden……..but still usable all the way. Maybe a tad over geared…..6th not much use. The 3k deal did it for me.
From Australia absolutely love your channel. I know there is a power deficit between the SFV2 and the KTM superduke 1290 but their price point is similar. I would love to see a comparison vid of the two as the ultimate fun road bike!
You’re right about the gearing. Very tall gears and struggles at 70mph in 6th. Coming from a ZZR1400 the ride is so different and took some adjustment. My first V twin. I’m really enjoying the experience.
Said I would not have another KTM after my GT a few years back. But after lots of looking, test rode the MT10sp, looked at Tuono, Streetfighter V2 etc it turns out the 1290 R just fits. Adult sized motorcycle. Add in the great deals and warranty extension on the now ‘old’ model…just bought a new 1290 R. Thanks for the reviews
I wonder how many subs you have can remember all the work you did on the Duke back in the day. Your channel was really in flux/transition at the time you sold it and wanted to ditch sport bikes (before the gixer LOL). Congrats on all the success since then.
Enjoyed your review, and at 51 years old you must fulfil what you heart desires, you know you want it. Mind you you made me nervous on tight right hand corners with your 360 camera's position ha-ha.
I got mine in June, Tank cap broke immediately but was replaced on warranty for a Technical Improvement part. Apparently they had a bad batch. Other than that, it's been a blast, turns heads everywhere it goes, have a titanium GP1RS slip on with colour etched logo and orange tip on the way from Austin, 10 week lead time, then it will be complete.
So it's now a viable option for a one bike garage? Town commuting, running errands and also fun runs on the weekend? What about fuel consumption for people who do rack up the miles? S1000r and MT10 are the other front runners, Tuono drinks too much fuel for someone with it as an only bike.
Great video, great bike, I own the 890 Duke R and this superduke must be mental. I agree about the WP Suspension, any bike that has had the Legend Jeremy McWilliams work on the development will always be awesome.
I spoke to gogo from Superduked too, he's a proper dude and super helpful. I had some issues with the standard suspension set up and he advised to reset to factory and work my way through to settings and find what suits me so i reset it and then went for the sport setting found under the seat. I think as mine was an ex demo people had fiddled with the dials on the forks because it was really unstable and felt like it was understeering, it was a night and day difference once i got it dialled in. Apparently there's a 1390 coming...that's the news that's been floating around the internet in the last few days because KTM added a new engine part number...
Being completely biased I'd rather see you upgrade a base mt10 to see if you can bring it up to hyper naked levels. It's probably more of a blank canvas than the SDR. It should work out cheaper as well with deals out there. I've seen the mt10 sp now going for a little over £14k new so there's deals on the as well now.
The only thing that concerns me John, is reliability, given that two UA-camrs have handed their SDRs back for this reason only. They loved the bike when it was working as it should but couldn't trust it.
Nice video again.I had a v2 still miss the torque.I've had several motos but the superduke has marked me. For 2024 I have heard of a 1390 maybe wait and see. Greetings
Great vid & bike. It is an entertaining beast that's full of character & fun. Speaking of which, that comparison sounds entertaining. Hopefully you manage to get a Super Duke in your garage on a permanent basis soon!
Top vid mate I’m about to pull the trigger on 2021 model sold my 2018 Tuono a few months after having 3 of them in 3 years bought a 2017 s1000r but it’s just not pretty enough although it’s a decent all round bike so I’m going to try the superduke r hopefully I’ll like it enough to keep it a while 😁
You can get the instant power with the Tuono by disconnect the exhaust flapper valve & running a 44 Tooth rear sprocket which is +4 on the RR & +2 on the factory.
I love the looks and the performance of this beast. I just seem to see comments on reliability issues with ktm & hear the story’s. I think I would need to own one to make my own mind up but it’s a lot of cash for something that could go wrong
I’m on my third Ktm and honestly nothing has gone wrong, superduke, Superadventure and GT. I’m no brand snob, and not a Ktm fanboy, I’ve had loads of bikes , I think the more bikes are sold the more go wrong.
I’m on my third Ktm and honestly nothing has gone wrong, superduke, Superadventure and GT. I’m no brand snob, and not a Ktm fanboy, I’ve had loads of bikes , I think the more bikes are sold the more go wrong.
Funny, I was thinking of popping to Sweetlamb and chatting to you about why you don’t have the SDR in the garage… I keep looking at them and as ‘big lad’ coming off litre plus sports bikes wonder if this is my step off the sport bike pain or go for a S1000RR. 🤷 Look forward to the follow up video(s) both the comparison with the MT and your first ride after buying the KtM 😂 Is it worth throwing the BMW S1000M into the mix??
KTM have come a long way since i was racing schoolboy motocross back in the 80s, back then they were a heap of 💩 and were forever breaking down. I really like the look of this machine and it's little sibling the 390 Duke, but unfortunately for me that stigma has still stuck.......maybe one day i might have that orange machine in garage 😁 Great video again Chops....love it ❤
Great Video, I have just bought an 890 Duke R which I find just right for the road, I can actually enjoy full throttle riding. I think the 1290 Super would be a stretch to far for me, especially in the inside leg department.......
Awesome bike, I have ridden the Evo 2 and found the problem as you . I really disliked it in town . If those properties have been fixed I will also have to have a revisit, and with the price reduction! . Great video Chops .
The 2023 R I’ve got is perfect. After the first service it runs sweet. The bike ran lean on the original map, hunted a bit on low throttle riding. Now - perfect.
a problem newbies to the platform have is they don't know how to adjust all the settings. By choosing the right combo of ride/throttle/power / abs / TC and now suspension settings, you can make the Evo as gentle and compliant as a kitten for in-town bliss.
@@AkansasRIDER understand, so from the factory setting are not ideal? . Just thinking for the price should be . I accept that some tweaks are needed on a new bike to make it your own .
@@alanshearing7515 from the factory you can adjust settings on the fly to anything you want them to be…it’s glorious. It’s that newbies don’t know how to, and so they give 1st impressions while not knowing how to operate the bike. It’s like aboriginals trying to fly the space shuttle and saying it’s crap because they can’t raise cattle in it.
The new Super duke 1390 is being in development to take on the Ducati Street Fighter among others. I am SOOO hyped about how that new model will perform, I am really looking forward to hearing more about it this fall. GEN 4 Super Duke 1390 CRAZY V-TWIN ON THE WAY YAAAAY. Wait for that bike Chopsy I agree with you as we have talked about before Chopsy, not only the superduke but all nakeds and sporttouring bikes should be more aggressive in riding style like the M1000R. I testrode the 890 SMT and I did not like it that much which is a shame. The 890 Duke felt faster and lighter but yeah too small. The Hypermotard is better than the SMT, KTM should have made a 180 kg fully fueled 890 SMC-R with 120hp instead of the SMT to rival the Hyper, that would surely be fun bike!
My biggest complain about the SD3 is the cornering ABS. Last year a had a big scary moment wehre i almost had no braking power and almost crashet. I let the brakesystem bleeding and dident get such a bad failuer, but still sometiemes it dosent work good. I wish i could tunrn it off without deaktivating the rear ABS.
I've just went from a 22 sdr to a 23 sdr evo as the deals are so good the now and what I've noticed with the 23 model evo the gearing is different you can use 6th gear now but I don't rate the quick throttle they changed which you can't get heated grips now so will need to fit the 22 throttle housing
That was a great video 😊 I think I'd prefer the Super Duke GT with some wind protection but i want it to based on the Gen 3 platform like this one. Its annoying that KTM never bothered to update that model. If they did, then I could look at the Gen 3 Superduked mods 😉
The Super Duke GT seems to be selling pretty ok so I am sure they will update it. I heard KTM 1390 is now in development so I am sure the GT will be updated after that bike comes out.
@RikkyTang I am thinking of buying a Super Duke GT 2017 for cheap money next year. It has everything I need, there is nothing really except maybe downblipper from the gen 2 that I need. Color tft and stuff like that is not that important. The new design is nice sure but not really needed. The gen 1 Super Duke GT I can get for about 8000€ with around 20 000 km on it (12 000 miles) That is a lot of bike for the money as you surely know. New bikes are getting crazy expensive, I have been thinking about it and a new Super duke GT GEN 2 for double the money than a used GEN 1 with not that many miles on it is just not worth getting the new GEN 2. The GEN 3 will surely be above 16 000£ It is just not worth it anymore. Will take several years before that bike will be worth the money used in my opinion. I rather buy the last gen model and buy some other bike at the same time.
@@mathias6423 the thing that puts me off these big KTM v-twins the most is vibration, especially when hard on the throttle! I've ridden a Super Adventure S and disliked it for that reason. I understand that the Gen.3 Superduke vibrates less and so if the GT model gets updated then I can begin to consider it.
@@RikkyTang Oh I have never noticed that enough for it to be a problem, I have ridden singles like enduros and stuff all my life so I must be used to it. I rode my friends gen 1 GT in Italy while he rode my MT-10. No one of us ever mentioned one vibrated more than the other. I have heard people complain a lot on the S1000XR that it vibrates alot on the highway on higher revs I did not notice that neither. I find other stuff in bikes I dislike instead that you probably would never think of so I guess we are picking up on different things, people are different I guess you would get less vibrations with the Gen 3 engine from the Super Duke because of better/more balancer shafts, I can not remember exactly but Its sopoposed to vibrate less.
@@mathias6423 That's a fair point because how a bike feels depends on what you are coming from... I ride an R1250R and in comparision my bike feels much smoother than the KTM I rode, this is part of the reason I didn't enjoy the ride very much on that Super Adventure (but the acceleration was awesome!) I have also noticed the handlebar vibes on the older S1000XR but the current version is a bit better there. I'll need a get a test ride on a Gen 3 SD to see how it feels 😊
@@bryansuperduke1290r Soz It was my mates bike we did it on 2 years ago, my Tuono is 15 so I went +4 on the rear as anything less than 15 is too tight a turn on the chain.
@@DukeOfTwist Yes, that’s why I added 2 on rear sprocket too, plus the 2 link longer chain to increase swing arm length/wheelbase and help keep front wheel down.
@@bryansuperduke1290r Yeah, I had front end issues with an 890R ended in a massive tank slapper & highside. Where as the Tuono is planted still had enough adjustment to use std chain so shortened the wheelbase so she turns faster lol
@@DukeOfTwist You don’t want to shorten wheelbase, increase the rear ride height to shorten trail for better turn in. I went +20mm on rear on mine, and 2 link longer chain to help keep front wheel down.
Fortunatly my local KTM dealership is altso a Yamaha dealership. Because last night, after getting an engine light on my 4 week old MT-10 SP i testrode a 2022 KTM 1290 Super Duke R. Long story short, i`m picking up my new 2023 Super Duke R Evo on Saturday. I NEED one in my life! I never knew such savagery existed. It`s everything i love in the MT turned up to 11
@@LambChopRides Picked up the Super Duke yesterday morning and put 200+ ish miles on it, mostly in the twisties, and all i have to say is WOW! WOW-WOW-WOW! This is in another LEAGUE than the MT-10. The KTM.... i`m speechless. In my opinion it`s unfair to the MT to even compare them, The quickshifter, in another league, the power, in another league, the power DELIVERY, in another league. I had two mates with me yesterday, one on a M1000R and the other on a ZH2, i felt like i was toying with them when the turns got tight. And the tighter they got the more the KTM exelled. I`m in awe of this bike! And i don`t think it`ll wear off any time soon
Chops! Please do a review of the 24 SD 1390. I’m think about getting back on a Superduke but want to make sure it’s well sorted for high speed ripping ! Thanks mate
@@LambChopRidesnice when you get there, be honest and don't just sit there and say it's perfect. If you feel like it's not pulling weight, call it. Please don't be like, yes yes buy this it's 10x better than the old one and has no flaws. If I can remember on paper it's got heavier and only increase by a margin in hp. And tq. Also the reason I say this is because most times when a new bike comes out when reviewing the newer bike all of a sudden these faults/niggly issue are highlight in the old gen that wasn't mention when it was being reviewed in it's prime time. But when a new version is out.. Like magic these issues get mentioned all of a sudden.
I used to have a 2020 (think that's teh gen 3) Super Duke R. LOVED that bike. I don't know why I got rid of it. I got a Honda CB1000R Black Edition (the looks of that bike sold me, and the smoothness and ease of use of it made me fall in love with the Honda... But I miss the madness of the Super DUke, and while the CB1000R has a nice scream, I miss the sound of the KTM's. I may have to get one... Why did I get rid of it? Oh, right, I was getting in too much trouble with it :) But... Every time I ride one, or even hear one, I want one. I am considering buying a Hypermotard 950 as a second bike, but... Should I Trade in the Honda and have just the one bike? I'm thinking ye.
Nice vid Chops. I love the SDR if only they were more reliable. I know 3 people who've had them, TLR included, and all had serious reliability issues and not just electronic ones. There's also a question mark over KTM's customer service. Too many negatives for me but the SDR is indeed a beast!
Got rid of mine after just 6 months, 11 mtc failures, coolant leaks, headlight fell off, indicator switch fell off on day one. Zero confidence to go anyway. Final straw was being stuck in mtc failure/limp mode a weekend away 600km from home.
The gen one Duke just looks wicked, 2nd gen, slightly less wicked, but still gorgeous, the 3rd generation just doesn't have the same brutal sharp looks
Brooo after I saw this video for curiosity I check ktm in Kendal in the Lake District and they have the offer you mention in the video . Went for a test ride and was amazing road between Kendal and the M6 .what a bike I loved Guest what I ordered a brand new Superduke R . 🙌🏻🙌🏻 thanks for your videos thanks to them I found a amazing bike . I really wanted a street fighter v4 beautiful bike but was a lot of money but now for a lot less I have fully loaded superduke with tech pack . Full akro evo system , cruise control and manage to upgrade some extras so extremely happy . This bike I feel I could handle it better than the Ducati and I can play more with it 🔥
Your enthusiasm is brilliant, kid in a sweet shop springs to mind 😂 anyway you said you was calming down and my be buy the new Ducati Diavel ?? 😂 great video
So you like it? It's a dreambike for me though I quite fancy the GT model as well. It helps to sell the bike to my wife because it would be more comfy for her. To be honest 4 years warranty is a great comfort to have, awesome.
Personally I still am not sure of the looks of KTM's, but from my limited experience riding an old 990, they are just super fun to ride. The 990 gets to it's low top end too quickly though, the 1290 must be an awesome ride.
I’ve geared my Gen 3 from stock 17/38 to 16/40 and it’s a lot better at lower speeds, I would never use it top end speed, so worth swapping for more acceleration.
Hi Chops, just revisiting this video as I wanted advice on a phone case mount for my 2022 SDR (new to me last Christmas) I know you use 'ultimate addons' stuff which I have had in the past so was looking to go with them again, what's the best mounting option please my man ?? cheers
As always . Nice one chops 👍 . Wow good deals plus 4yr warranty you need it with the hydraulic clutch problems . Part from that it’s been fantastic. I’m taken my evo to track tomorrow for the first time . I agree geared to high even on the road . Not just 6th unless I’m always looking for a gear in between 2-3 or 3-4 When time to replace chain sprockets (a job over winter) will drop front from 17 to 16 .
Easy fix is the Oberon slave, mine just started getting air in system after 9,000 miles over 3 years. I just have to bleed a tiny bit of air from the master bleed nipple now and again.
@@bryansuperduke1290r this dose it every 2-3k miles need fixing before warranty runs out . If it wasn’t in warranty I probably upgrade it . But shouldn’t have to do that on a new’ish bike
@@marksmith8663 Service manager said it’s because the piston is narrow and as it wares it can rock in the bore and air gets past it, it’s a poor design, Oberon on is bitter.
@@bryansuperduke1290r can’t be due to wear so quite must be just down to a bad design . Ktm sure rectify it on a recall shouldn’t be the customer buying aftermarket .
Ive got my eye on one should I buy its 10 minutes away semi active suspension probably 21500 out the door man thats some cash I have the MT-10 probably just be happy I have it
Rumor has it KTM has a 1390 coming with a finally fully updated SD GT. I came off a very good SD GT and traded for an even better (for two up sport touring) 2023 Pikes Peak V4. I'll be watching for the new BMW XR1000 M---as well as the new SD GT--but can the BMW inline 4 deliver throttle cracking lift off?
If they turn up with 1390 GT, I’ll be buying it immediately and keep my Gen3 SDR. I consider Gen3 SDR as the best bike for the street on the market period.
These type of reviews are what made me buy my 2023 1290 SuperDuke R Evo last week (but with full titanium Akrapovic system and map of course). Can’t wait to collect next week!!!
I’ve done the Superduked 10mm link and 16/40 gears with a 114 chain. Completely changed how the bike turns in. SO much easier to change direction now. Highly recommend.
I’ve done same as you with gearing and chain, but opted for the +20 link. Would get the +15 now Eric seals it.
@@bryansuperduke1290r I'm waiting to install the 16/40 and +20 in a couple days, what's your feedback on those mods pls mate?
@@701_ben I don’t think you will regret it. With that setup you looking at adding 24mm to rear ride height. It’s going to turn a lot better, and won’t run wide in turns like the stock set up which puts the axel at 12 o’clock in the hub, This puts the rear in the lowest position possibleX, with fork angle raked out mor, and an increased trail measurement of under 103mm, stock trail is just under 108mm.
It’s going to accelerate a lot better with the gearing, and not going to be as chuggey at cruising speeds as the stock gearing.
Love my 2023 SDR, perfect do it all bike. The way it picks up on the slightest of throttle input is addictive.
Great chassie and brakes as well. 👌
Just turned 46, this is my 30th year riding on the street and I'm lucky enough to have owned over 30 motorcycles during that time... if I could only have 1 bike, I'd have my SDR. Best all-arounder I've ever owned. It's also ideal for anyone over 190cms.
How did u find the reliability? I love the bike. But I'm terrified off it's reliability issues
@@DaveDayve All the non Asian bike brands can have issues. KTM is no different. I have a 2017, 18k miles on the clock. No issues. 100% worth it even if there are issues from time to time. Best bike ever.
@@DaveDayveI honestly think reliability issues are a thing of the past... people still dwell on things they heard years ago, or a reputation that was created decades ago... My KTM is bullet proof, and it's probably one of the most heavily modified SDRs on the planet. I have $25k+ in parts on it, and I abuse the shit out of it, and it's still running hard.
@@mrkang4080 that's good to here. I had a 2 new KTMs one just dogged with issues till the end of warranty so I sold it. This happened only few yrs ago. And if you follow the likable rider, he and his mates got sick of these issues with the SDR
@@mrkang4080 maybe as you've modified it, you've ironed out the issues?
Ridden the MT-10SP not long ago, I'm leaning towards the Yamaha at the moment we'll see on that video what you think.
Have my GEN3 for 2 yrs now. And I have loved every minute with it !
Just cashed in all my bikes and purchased the Evo. Soooo good. Of course your videos helped me decide 😎
Glad to hear it! 😁👍
Wanted to upgrade from my gen 2 to a new one, but the gen 2 is way more comfortable, more raw, and way more analog. Those are attributes I like in a motorcycle so I will continue to keep my gen 2.
Great video. I’d ordered a new Pikes Peak last September to be here for March this year. This was to replace a V4 Multistrada as a do it all sports bike as I am of a certain age. I was then told that delivery was delayed and they weren’t sure when I would get it .I’d taken time off in March to ride it. A friend had a new Super duke R Evo which I loved the look of but had never ridden. My local dealer JD Racing had a deal on plus they would give me the tech pack. So I bought one thinking I would trade it back in as and when the Pikes Peak finally turned up. I absolutely fell in love with this thing. I’ve done a couple of mods to to it sensible things like rad guards etc. I already had heated grips and tyre pressure monitors fitted. I then had the SC Projects road slip on fitted which gives it a better sound and looks OE. The Pikes Peak eventually turned up which is also a brilliant bike, but I just couldn’t bring myself to get rid of the Super duke. I love that thing so much.. Hence forth I now have two expensive bikes in the garage and no money in the bank 😂😂😂. Still, you can’t take it with you!!! 😅
-Bought mine about 3 months ago - my second SD. My son who's a natural on a mc and experienced plenty of my past bikes states this is the best one I've ever had. Only EVO's available at my purchase date - wanted manual adjustment. There's still some sorting to do on the electronics for on occasion a "traction control malfunction" warning comes on and it cuts off a chunk of my power band and slows me suddenly. I get suspension malfunction warnings as well. Also I get a warning of the keyfob being out-of-range and it freaks me out in thinking I've dropped or lost my key and I'll be screwed when I turn the bike off. I love the riding position and find it quite comfortable. I've seen some peeps have put SuperAdventure S risers on their handlebars but no need for me. There's also a micro fairing just in front of my instruments that for me keeps wind buffeting just a mild disturbance around my arms and upper shoulder. Works great. Here in California, USA I can split lanes so I have folding bar-end mirrors which clean up my forward view as well -Gives me the added perception of flying through space and time. Last downside: impatience can crop up in traffic and others seem to me moving incredibly slow.
I scored a '21 Gen 3 new warranty demo base model which I am loving and running in . I got the Akro full ti with the ecu flash and tech pack fitted before picked up . What a machine , gone a little crazy with Ohlins ttx and BST wheels and other nice bits . 55 yo and carrying extra pork and old wounds , so I am finding it very comfortable . Excellent reviews on all your Suoerduke vids , helped me decide so cheers mate .
I’m 58 with Gen 3 for 3 years so far.
i have the same mate done the same mods as you but the wheels and its a keeper love it
I've just completed my first year on the bike - my 12 mo. service interval. It may be the finest motorcycle I've ever owned. Issues of note for me are that the clutch flued somehow gains air over time and requires bleeding, the predicative estimated mileage indicator is not to be relied upon; the front break rubs the pads which one can hear when pushing the bike around with the engine off, and it does seem to eat a bit of oil and coolant over time, warning notifications come on unexpectedly when out in the field but will go away if the bike is turned off for a minute or so and, small niggle, the two oil drain ports spill oil directly onto the exhaust. I get much better mileage than with my previous MT-10 and Tuono's so, big power yet some range. It's my 2nd SD and I attest that the engine is way better around town at slower speeds. It's pretty much everything I want in a motorcycle and it will be hard to find anything else that is overall as competent.
I got myself the Gen 2 earlier this year, I've had alot of different bikes, almost tried it all, except for cruisers, but this is the greatest thing i've ever owned. Thanks for your videos on the beast! It made me go that route :D
I had from new a 2016 gen 1 1290 Super Duke R special edition, my first ever new bike, until I was T boned last year by a lad in a BMW, and the bike was written off, so with the insurance dosh I got a 2015 gen1 Super Duke R with some very nice mods done by previous owners low milage and I had new front discs and sintered pads put on,also a map and full Boddis system it sounds like a Moto GP bike, not ridden it yet as it's taken over a year to get back to normal, with titanium bits in me and lots of physio, but having a bike in the garage even though it's not ridden yet is my incentive, I need to be fully fit to cope with a modified 1290 SDR, been enjoying watching your channel must say, roll on spring and ill be out.😊😊
I hope your are good to enjoy the beast yet 👌
The right number of bikes is “One more”😁. Maybe a second floor expansion for the garage! Big fan of the LC8 motor and how it has evolved.
Hehe absolutely!
Come on John, get one in that lovely garage of yours! I can tell you as well, it makes a great touring bike!
Good man chopsy,traded my 2021 v2 panigale for the beast, without a doubt best decision I ever made ,it’s an event every time I ride it ,grin from ear to ear machine , in the words of a famous sports shoe brand ,Just do it
I bought a 2016 about 3 weeks ago, I love it... completely changed my thinking about superbikes and supersports for the street, honestly. Unless i come across a decent deal on a hayabusa I'll probably wont be buying anything but hypernaked bikes anymore.... much more comfortable, and just flat out easier in traffic. plus that super duke r is just a fun time everytime you start the engine... I'm hoping to put it and my '08 ducati 1098 on the track soon
I still have my Gen1 that I bought in 2015. Like you, I have done tons of work on it and I feel I have made it about as close to perfect as it gets. My son has a Gen2 and I wouldn't trade him for anything. A few of my friends have the Gen 3 and I'm not even a little interested in those bikes. I much prefer the raw, stripped down, no frills version that is the Gen1 especially with it set up like mine is. But I agree, the Superduke is still king of the naked bikes.
I love my SDR. I had all Gen and stays with the 2021 as I can use it as an all rounder. I commute, go for a ride in twisties, tour with my wife and go on track. Some other bikes are more efficient I.e. Tuono but I find the SDR just so fun not to mention the look (love it or hate it).
For those who want to improve track behavior I strongly recommend superduked UA-cam channel
As an sdr owner urself have u had any problems as there seems to be alot of let's say bad ownership problems from other folk,that's the only reason I didn't go for 1 and got a 22 plate mt10
@@elvisthewart670 I don’t know if I’m lucky or if it’s just general reliability but I never had an issue. Not even an electronic glitch. And I’m using the bike all year long.
What I heard tho is that reliability was a nightmare before Ktm was bought by Pierer. Since then it highly improved
Wow Mr Chops..... this channel is blowing the doors off all the others at the moment! Keep em coming 👍
Thanks matey 😁👍
I am a happy third-generation owner. I have always had supersport bikes, but the fun you have on mountain roads with this bike is embarrassing. Last week I rode 1800 km in 4 days through the hills and mountain passes of Italy and I didn't have a half a pain in my arms, butt or legs... on Saturday it had been a rainy day, rain map and the delivery becomes a butter. Taking advantage of the engine's torque, the fuel consumption is really low. It's simply the bike that everyone should have in their garage. I'm addicted to it. I don't think I'll ever have an engine other than this under my ass again. Front tyre to the skyyyyy!!!! ❤
I see Chopsy on a SDR, I click. You're so right about the Evo not really being worth it - the suspension on the R is so good. £14k is a steal, and it's not like a new version will make this a worse bike...
You can’t change the springs as the system is set up for the rate the bike comes with, so if your heavier you can’t change to 95/100N/mm spring.
Not only is the manual suspension on the SDR one of, if not, the best suspension systems in the entire category of nakeds, you would need to fall into a niche category of bike riders for the electronic semi-active system of the EVO to both make sense as a purchase option and to also get more enjoyment from the SDR EVO setup.
I do appreciate these Super Naked's I like looking at others on them. I felt I looked rather silly dismounting after (a massively enjoyable) test ride, like a middle aged man getting out of a soft top sports car in a pair of sliders and white socks. Oh and £14K a steal? for weekend/ track day motorcycle? I'm in the wrong game.
@@barrydaly7174 Got a friend does track days on his brant new £23,000 Superduke RR.
I have the Gen 3 and found the bike lives up to its name, added a few extras like exhaust, small screen, bits of carbon etc
and i have not liked a bike like this ever, its amazing Mr Chops with the S22s on it, not the evo but the suspension is dialed in easy, also im only 5 foot 5 and put the lowering kit on it and you cant do that on first Gen bikes, only dropped it an inch or so but made all the diff to me and did not affect the handling, i did regear it also as you mentioned, front and back
Superb review Chopsy
The enthusiasm is contagious. Got me looking for a new bike now 👍👍👍
I’ve got an EVO on order to replace my 890 Duke R. Weighing only 10 stone and being vertically challenged (28-29” inside leg) my biggest concern was would the suspension cope and the seat height. However, the EVO adjusted itself perfectly for my and running in dynamic mode it lightened the damping around town and dual carriageways but firmed up on the back roads. Test riding a BMW S1000R its suspension didn’t seem to vary for me in dynamic mode so guess I’m not heavy enough. It was a lovely bike but lacked the low down immediate grunt of the SDR. Another advantage of the EVO is that it’s possible to adjust the ride height, so it could be +10mm on sports riding or -10mm for motorways or for me U-turns. That makes the EVO worth the extra money for me.
Awesome videos keep them coming. And scratch your itch and buy the SDR 😉
The problem is you lower the bike with less preload, that not the way to do it. You bike is more into rear travel b4 you even hit a bump, it’s a compromised system, you can’t swap spring rate either as it’s algorithm is based on the stock spring rates.
I don't think the height adjustment is done through preload as that should be based on your weight. As you say, the preload setting will affect your position within the suspension stroke so if you're close to the top or bottom it may be necessary to change the springs for a different spring rate. If the ride height is adjusted through preload that will reduce the useable weight range of the spring.@@bryansuperduke1290r
Had my Gen 3 for three years end of next month, finally got round to doing track days on it this year, got 4th evening at Brands on 31st.
I can’t see any replacement for it yet!
Don’t get Evo as you can’t change the spring rate.
I have an end can, Eric’s +20mm rear suspension link plates, 16/40 sprockets with 2 link longer chain, stiffer rear spring, 7mm front preload spacers and a set up, that’s all it needs
For 2024 it’s growing to a 1390 😉
Apparently it's going to be a v4. Keeping the 1290 v twin and making a 1390 v4.
@@irockz9723 no its not, the 1390 is a v twin, you can order the engine parts already and its clearly a v twin
V4 would be brilliant
Yes!
This is why they have all these issues
Before they’re sorting out all the issues they come out with a brand new architecture and newer issues… go figure these wacky Austrians 😅😅
The 1290 isn't the engine size exactly anyway (seeing as it's a 1301cc motor) so who knows haha
I still seriously want one of these.
I do wish you wouldn’t use aggressive as a description though Chops. I don’t really know what that means in relation to riding position or brake feel.
Great review though, makes me want one even more!
Top class review as always Chopsy! You know your stuff and always provide great and reliable Insight into what we want to know. Keep up the amazing work!
I have a 2022 KTM 690 SMCR and recently acquired a 2023 Moto2 Street Triple RS. I took the KTM for a service and got a 1290 Superduke R EVO as courtesy and it's all I can think about since. It's an absolute riot. So effortless. Absolutely in love with it and the kicker is you can get an ex-demo 23 plate with no miles on for nearly 5k less than asking...
If only there wasn't rumours of a 1390!
I agree 100% that the V twin gives you the power where you need it. I dont ride on the road bouncing on the limiter. I do hope they stay with the twin rather than going to a v4.
I have had my Evo for a little over a year, I have the Akra, full tech pack, and the Gilles rearsets, love it, over 6500 miles and climbing.
Had my Gen 3 almost 3 years, absolutely outstanding bike. Got rid of it 3 weeks ago as due to 10 broken or collapsed vertebrae in my back due to cancer it was just painful to ride. Got Super Adventure instead! 😂
I’m picking my new 1290sdr up at the end of the week. Great deals out there 🎉.
Picked mine up last week. Like nothing else I’ve ever ridden……..but still usable all the way. Maybe a tad over geared…..6th not much use. The 3k deal did it for me.
From Australia absolutely love your channel. I know there is a power deficit between the SFV2 and the KTM superduke 1290 but their price point is similar. I would love to see a comparison vid of the two as the ultimate fun road bike!
You’re right about the gearing. Very tall gears and struggles at 70mph in 6th. Coming from a ZZR1400 the ride is so different and took some adjustment. My first V twin. I’m really enjoying the experience.
Go for it. I’ve had my Gen 3 for 3 years now. My first V twin and I love it. And yes it doesn’t like 6th unless you’re in triple figures. 😄
Good stuff as always brother chops!
I wonder if the reason we will get more reviews so they can sell them before 1390!
Said I would not have another KTM after my GT a few years back. But after lots of looking, test rode the MT10sp, looked at Tuono, Streetfighter V2 etc it turns out the 1290 R just fits. Adult sized motorcycle. Add in the great deals and warranty extension on the now ‘old’ model…just bought a new 1290 R. Thanks for the reviews
Literally been ktm today to have a look at 1290 new, curious to see how you liking it and why you chose it over the mt10 you rode and tuono.
Thanks
I wonder how many subs you have can remember all the work you did on the Duke back in the day. Your channel was really in flux/transition at the time you sold it and wanted to ditch sport bikes (before the gixer LOL). Congrats on all the success since then.
Thanks buddy 👍
Enjoyed your review, and at 51 years old you must fulfil what you heart desires, you know you want it. Mind you you made me nervous on tight right hand corners with your 360 camera's position ha-ha.
I got mine in June, Tank cap broke immediately but was replaced on warranty for a Technical Improvement part. Apparently they had a bad batch. Other than that, it's been a blast, turns heads everywhere it goes, have a titanium GP1RS slip on with colour etched logo and orange tip on the way from Austin, 10 week lead time, then it will be complete.
So it's now a viable option for a one bike garage?
Town commuting, running errands and also fun runs on the weekend?
What about fuel consumption for people who do rack up the miles? S1000r and MT10 are the other front runners, Tuono drinks too much fuel for someone with it as an only bike.
I absolutely love my Evo, ridden the m1000R and was pleased to get back on my Evo.
Great video, great bike, I own the 890 Duke R and this superduke must be mental. I agree about the WP Suspension, any bike that has had the Legend Jeremy McWilliams work on the development will always be awesome.
Always thought so until I rode the m1000r after a Brent tune with full system on it.
I spoke to gogo from Superduked too, he's a proper dude and super helpful. I had some issues with the standard suspension set up and he advised to reset to factory and work my way through to settings and find what suits me so i reset it and then went for the sport setting found under the seat.
I think as mine was an ex demo people had fiddled with the dials on the forks because it was really unstable and felt like it was understeering, it was a night and day difference once i got it dialled in.
Apparently there's a 1390 coming...that's the news that's been floating around the internet in the last few days because KTM added a new engine part number...
Being completely biased I'd rather see you upgrade a base mt10 to see if you can bring it up to hyper naked levels. It's probably more of a blank canvas than the SDR. It should work out cheaper as well with deals out there. I've seen the mt10 sp now going for a little over £14k new so there's deals on the as well now.
The only thing that concerns me John, is reliability, given that two UA-camrs have handed their SDRs back for this reason only. They loved the bike when it was working as it should but couldn't trust it.
Nice video again.I had a v2 still miss the torque.I've had several motos but the superduke has marked me. For 2024 I have heard of a 1390 maybe wait and see. Greetings
Great vid & bike. It is an entertaining beast that's full of character & fun. Speaking of which, that comparison sounds entertaining. Hopefully you manage to get a Super Duke in your garage on a permanent basis soon!
Great review of an epic motorcycle, had a gen 2 now on a gen 3 Evo , different beast altogether .
Top vid mate I’m about to pull the trigger on 2021 model sold my 2018 Tuono a few months after having 3 of them in 3 years bought a 2017 s1000r but it’s just not pretty enough although it’s a decent all round bike so I’m going to try the superduke r hopefully I’ll like it enough to keep it a while 😁
Great review as always!
Great vid Chops 🙂 this set of wheels is in my dream garage.
You can get the instant power with the Tuono by disconnect the exhaust flapper valve & running a 44 Tooth rear sprocket which is +4 on the RR & +2 on the factory.
I love the looks and the performance of this beast. I just seem to see comments on reliability issues with ktm & hear the story’s. I think I would need to own one to make my own mind up but it’s a lot of cash for something that could go wrong
I’m on my third Ktm and honestly nothing has gone wrong, superduke, Superadventure and GT.
I’m no brand snob, and not a Ktm fanboy, I’ve had loads of bikes , I think the more bikes are sold the more go wrong.
I’m on my third Ktm and honestly nothing has gone wrong, superduke, Superadventure and GT.
I’m no brand snob, and not a Ktm fanboy, I’ve had loads of bikes , I think the more bikes are sold the more go wrong.
I've had lots of KTM's so has my brother - no issues, I just bought a new 1290SDR they are on a deal now with 4 years warranty ! can't beat that
@@sk2283 I’ll try one eventually. Currently got a hornet 750.
Funny, I was thinking of popping to Sweetlamb and chatting to you about why you don’t have the SDR in the garage… I keep looking at them and as ‘big lad’ coming off litre plus sports bikes wonder if this is my step off the sport bike pain or go for a S1000RR. 🤷
Look forward to the follow up video(s) both the comparison with the MT and your first ride after buying the KtM 😂
Is it worth throwing the BMW S1000M into the mix??
KTM have come a long way since i was racing schoolboy motocross back in the 80s, back then they were a heap of 💩 and were forever breaking down. I really like the look of this machine and it's little sibling the 390 Duke, but unfortunately for me that stigma has still stuck.......maybe one day i might have that orange machine in garage 😁
Great video again Chops....love it ❤
Great Video, I have just bought an 890 Duke R which I find just right for the road, I can actually enjoy full throttle riding. I think the 1290 Super would be a stretch to far for me, especially in the inside leg department.......
Awesome bike, I have ridden the Evo 2 and found the problem as you . I really disliked it in town . If those properties have been fixed I will also have to have a revisit, and with the price reduction! . Great video Chops .
The 2023 R I’ve got is perfect. After the first service it runs sweet.
The bike ran lean on the original map, hunted a bit on low throttle riding. Now - perfect.
a problem newbies to the platform have is they don't know how to adjust all the settings. By choosing the right combo of ride/throttle/power / abs / TC and now suspension settings, you can make the Evo as gentle and compliant as a kitten for in-town bliss.
@@Husabuse Glad you got it sorted, as I said awesome Blake . Standard loan bike was awful in town .
@@AkansasRIDER understand, so from the factory setting are not ideal? . Just thinking for the price should be . I accept that some tweaks are needed on a new bike to make it your own .
@@alanshearing7515 from the factory you can adjust settings on the fly to anything you want them to be…it’s glorious. It’s that newbies don’t know how to, and so they give 1st impressions while not knowing how to operate the bike. It’s like aboriginals trying to fly the space shuttle and saying it’s crap because they can’t raise cattle in it.
I think you need to increase the font size on the specification graphic box. Then I could read it lol. But ideal length video, imho.
The new Super duke 1390 is being in development to take on the Ducati Street Fighter among others. I am SOOO hyped about how that new model will perform, I am really looking forward to hearing more about it this fall. GEN 4 Super Duke 1390 CRAZY V-TWIN ON THE WAY YAAAAY. Wait for that bike Chopsy
I agree with you as we have talked about before Chopsy, not only the superduke but all nakeds and sporttouring bikes should be more aggressive in riding style like the M1000R.
I testrode the 890 SMT and I did not like it that much which is a shame. The 890 Duke felt faster and lighter but yeah too small. The Hypermotard is better than the SMT, KTM should have made a 180 kg fully fueled 890 SMC-R with 120hp instead of the SMT to rival the Hyper, that would surely be fun bike!
1390?
My biggest complain about the SD3 is the cornering ABS. Last year a had a big scary moment wehre i almost had no braking power and almost crashet. I let the brakesystem bleeding and dident get such a bad failuer, but still sometiemes it dosent work good. I wish i could tunrn it off without deaktivating the rear ABS.
I've just went from a 22 sdr to a 23 sdr evo as the deals are so good the now and what I've noticed with the 23 model evo the gearing is different you can use 6th gear now but I don't rate the quick throttle they changed which you can't get heated grips now so will need to fit the 22 throttle housing
That was a great video 😊 I think I'd prefer the Super Duke GT with some wind protection but i want it to based on the Gen 3 platform like this one. Its annoying that KTM never bothered to update that model. If they did, then I could look at the Gen 3 Superduked mods 😉
The Super Duke GT seems to be selling pretty ok so I am sure they will update it. I heard KTM 1390 is now in development so I am sure the GT will be updated after that bike comes out.
@RikkyTang I am thinking of buying a Super Duke GT 2017 for cheap money next year.
It has everything I need, there is nothing really except maybe downblipper from the gen 2 that I need. Color tft and stuff like that is not that important. The new design is nice sure but not really needed.
The gen 1 Super Duke GT I can get for about 8000€ with around 20 000 km on it (12 000 miles) That is a lot of bike for the money as you surely know.
New bikes are getting crazy expensive, I have been thinking about it and a new Super duke GT GEN 2 for double the money than a used GEN 1 with not that many miles on it is just not worth getting the new GEN 2.
The GEN 3 will surely be above 16 000£ It is just not worth it anymore.
Will take several years before that bike will be worth the money used in my opinion.
I rather buy the last gen model and buy some other bike at the same time.
@@mathias6423 the thing that puts me off these big KTM v-twins the most is vibration, especially when hard on the throttle! I've ridden a Super Adventure S and disliked it for that reason. I understand that the Gen.3 Superduke vibrates less and so if the GT model gets updated then I can begin to consider it.
@@RikkyTang Oh I have never noticed that enough for it to be a problem, I have ridden singles like enduros and stuff all my life so I must be used to it. I rode my friends gen 1 GT in Italy while he rode my MT-10. No one of us ever mentioned one vibrated more than the other.
I have heard people complain a lot on the S1000XR that it vibrates alot on the highway on higher revs I did not notice that neither. I find other stuff in bikes I dislike instead that you probably would never think of so I guess we are picking up on different things, people are different
I guess you would get less vibrations with the Gen 3 engine from the Super Duke because of better/more balancer shafts, I can not remember exactly but Its sopoposed to vibrate less.
@@mathias6423 That's a fair point because how a bike feels depends on what you are coming from... I ride an R1250R and in comparision my bike feels much smoother than the KTM I rode, this is part of the reason I didn't enjoy the ride very much on that Super Adventure (but the acceleration was awesome!)
I have also noticed the handlebar vibes on the older S1000XR but the current version is a bit better there.
I'll need a get a test ride on a Gen 3 SD to see how it feels 😊
I saw one of these in my Z H2 mirrors. It got smaller!
Wicked machine for sure likely out of my league lunacy wise though 😊
I found changing the front sprocket -2 to 15 Tooth makes it a lot better around town & slipping thru roundabouts.
that 2 teeth as stock is 17.
@@bryansuperduke1290r Soz It was my mates bike we did it on 2 years ago, my Tuono is 15 so I went +4 on the rear as anything less than 15 is too tight a turn on the chain.
@@DukeOfTwist Yes, that’s why I added 2 on rear sprocket too, plus the 2 link longer chain to increase swing arm length/wheelbase and help keep front wheel down.
@@bryansuperduke1290r Yeah, I had front end issues with an 890R ended in a massive tank slapper & highside. Where as the Tuono is planted still had enough adjustment to use std chain so shortened the wheelbase so she turns faster lol
@@DukeOfTwist You don’t want to shorten wheelbase, increase the rear ride height to shorten trail for better turn in. I went +20mm on rear on mine, and 2 link longer chain to help keep front wheel down.
I bought the 2020 version when it changed to the Gen 3.
I have no plan to change it anytime soon!
Thanks Chopsy, great review.
You should, you know it! A beautiful machine and bags of fun. Struggling to get the front wheel down with an gearing change.. 😂 4yrs warranty is 👊
Fortunatly my local KTM dealership is altso a Yamaha dealership. Because last night, after getting an engine light on my 4 week old MT-10 SP i testrode a 2022 KTM 1290 Super Duke R. Long story short, i`m picking up my new 2023 Super Duke R Evo on Saturday. I NEED one in my life! I never knew such savagery existed. It`s everything i love in the MT turned up to 11
Oh wow interesting, I'm trying to decide which one I prefer now! 👍
@@LambChopRides Picked up the Super Duke yesterday morning and put 200+ ish miles on it, mostly in the twisties, and all i have to say is WOW! WOW-WOW-WOW! This is in another LEAGUE than the MT-10. The KTM.... i`m speechless. In my opinion it`s unfair to the MT to even compare them, The quickshifter, in another league, the power, in another league, the power DELIVERY, in another league. I had two mates with me yesterday, one on a M1000R and the other on a ZH2, i felt like i was toying with them when the turns got tight. And the tighter they got the more the KTM exelled. I`m in awe of this bike! And i don`t think it`ll wear off any time soon
Chops! Please do a review of the 24 SD 1390. I’m think about getting back on a Superduke but want to make sure it’s well sorted for high speed ripping ! Thanks mate
Actually been invited to the launch 😁👍
@@LambChopRidesnice when you get there, be honest and don't just sit there and say it's perfect. If you feel like it's not pulling weight, call it. Please don't be like, yes yes buy this it's 10x better than the old one and has no flaws.
If I can remember on paper it's got heavier and only increase by a margin in hp. And tq.
Also the reason I say this is because most times when a new bike comes out when reviewing the newer bike all of a sudden these faults/niggly issue are highlight in the old gen that wasn't mention when it was being reviewed in it's prime time. But when a new version is out.. Like magic these issues get mentioned all of a sudden.
I wonder if they have sorted the gremlins out ,
Like the looks ,
Your voice says it all ,Excited or what
😮,
I used to have a 2020 (think that's teh gen 3) Super Duke R. LOVED that bike. I don't know why I got rid of it. I got a Honda CB1000R Black Edition (the looks of that bike sold me, and the smoothness and ease of use of it made me fall in love with the Honda... But I miss the madness of the Super DUke, and while the CB1000R has a nice scream, I miss the sound of the KTM's. I may have to get one...
Why did I get rid of it? Oh, right, I was getting in too much trouble with it :)
But... Every time I ride one, or even hear one, I want one. I am considering buying a Hypermotard 950 as a second bike, but... Should I Trade in the Honda and have just the one bike? I'm thinking ye.
Another great video John and what a great motorcycle it is indeed,,guess you are getting one 😉☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland
You are gonna have to get one Chopsy, you sound like you want to! Would love to see what mods you do to it!
Holding out to see what the new one is like 😁👍
Nice vid Chops. I love the SDR if only they were more reliable. I know 3 people who've had them, TLR included, and all had serious reliability issues and not just electronic ones. There's also a question mark over KTM's customer service. Too many negatives for me but the SDR is indeed a beast!
So sad 😞
the same tlr who had to have the cams changed on his previous bmw xr1000.
Got rid of mine after just 6 months, 11 mtc failures, coolant leaks, headlight fell off, indicator switch fell off on day one. Zero confidence to go anyway. Final straw was being stuck in mtc failure/limp mode a weekend away 600km from home.
@@simonbeal2148 I'd forgotten about that. Maybe Shaun is just really unlucky :D
Sean got rid of his because the dealer was crap.
The gen one Duke just looks wicked, 2nd gen, slightly less wicked, but still gorgeous, the 3rd generation just doesn't have the same brutal sharp looks
Brooo after I saw this video for curiosity I check ktm in Kendal in the Lake District and they have the offer you mention in the video . Went for a test ride and was amazing road between Kendal and the M6 .what a bike I loved Guest what I ordered a brand new Superduke R . 🙌🏻🙌🏻 thanks for your videos thanks to them I found a amazing bike . I really wanted a street fighter v4 beautiful bike but was a lot of money but now for a lot less I have fully loaded superduke with tech pack . Full akro evo system , cruise control and manage to upgrade some extras so extremely happy . This bike I feel I could handle it better than the Ducati and I can play more with it 🔥
Well done you! I'm jealous 😁👍
Your enthusiasm is brilliant, kid in a sweet shop springs to mind 😂 anyway you said you was calming down and my be buy the new Ducati Diavel ?? 😂 great video
Nice one chopsy , you really enjoyed that I think 😁 nice looking bike and would sound great with a new exhaust .👍👍
So you like it?
It's a dreambike for me though I quite fancy the GT model as well. It helps to sell the bike to my wife because it would be more comfy for her.
To be honest 4 years warranty is a great comfort to have, awesome.
Personally I still am not sure of the looks of KTM's, but from my limited experience riding an old 990, they are just super fun to ride. The 990 gets to it's low top end too quickly though, the 1290 must be an awesome ride.
I’ve geared my Gen 3 from stock 17/38 to 16/40 and it’s a lot better at lower speeds, I would never use it top end speed, so worth swapping for more acceleration.
@@bryansuperduke1290r I ride a ZX9r mate, and use it all 😄 I sold a mates 990 from a video I done on it, was fun, but not fast enough still for me.
@@HalfdeadRider Mine is a 2020 Gen 3 not 990.
@@bryansuperduke1290r it was a 2005 model I rode 😎
@@HalfdeadRider I’ve been looking out for a cheap 990 for a track day bike.
Where is the new SMT?? Europe only?
Hi Chops, just revisiting this video as I wanted advice on a phone case mount for my 2022 SDR (new to me last Christmas) I know you use 'ultimate addons' stuff which I have had in the past so was looking to go with them again, what's the best mounting option please my man ?? cheers
If its for you SD get the one which mounts to the bar clamp. You remove one of the 4 bolts and replace it with mounting bolt 👍
@@LambChopRides thanks v much - does it work / fit ok with having a from screen ? I have the Puig touring fitted
thanks 👍
Very nice, gonna hav to ride one to see if it’s better than my 2018 tuono factory
As always . Nice one chops 👍 .
Wow good deals plus 4yr warranty you need it with the hydraulic clutch problems . Part from that it’s been fantastic.
I’m taken my evo to track tomorrow for the first time . I agree geared to high even on the road .
Not just 6th unless I’m always looking for a gear in between 2-3 or 3-4
When time to replace chain sprockets (a job over winter) will drop front from 17 to 16 .
Easy fix is the Oberon slave, mine just started getting air in system after 9,000 miles over 3 years.
I just have to bleed a tiny bit of air from the master bleed nipple now and again.
@@bryansuperduke1290r this dose it every 2-3k miles need fixing before warranty runs out . If it wasn’t in warranty I probably upgrade it . But shouldn’t have to do that on a new’ish bike
@@marksmith8663 Service manager said it’s because the piston is narrow and as it wares it can rock in the bore and air gets past it, it’s a poor design, Oberon on is bitter.
@@bryansuperduke1290r can’t be due to wear so quite must be just down to a bad design . Ktm sure rectify it on a recall shouldn’t be the customer buying aftermarket .
That will be a comparison video I can't wait for 👌
Why is the display orange? Not a fan of that. I hope that’s optional or changeable in the settings.
Yes it is, that's the night mode.
Earned yourself a subscriber mate.
Great review.
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Thanks buddy 👍
Ive got my eye on one should I buy its 10 minutes away semi active suspension probably 21500 out the door man thats some cash I have the MT-10 probably just be happy I have it
Great bike.. but does need some tweaks on suspension and euro5 remap to make it liveable
whats the difference betwee a Super duke R and SUPER DUKE EVO?
Electronic Suspension 👍
2 grand 😂
Rumor has it KTM has a 1390 coming with a finally fully updated SD GT. I came off a very good SD GT and traded for an even better (for two up sport touring) 2023 Pikes Peak V4. I'll be watching for the new BMW XR1000 M---as well as the new SD GT--but can the BMW inline 4 deliver throttle cracking lift off?
If they turn up with 1390 GT, I’ll be buying it immediately and keep my Gen3 SDR. I consider Gen3 SDR as the best bike for the street on the market period.
It's a Handsome bike. A real man's man bike. That sound is invigorating. That's a road scalpel 😮