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  • Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
  • Caleb Smith, a young programmer, gets a chance to become a part of a strange scientific experiment in a secluded facility where he's tasked with performing the Turing test on an intelligent humanoid robot, but will he make it out alive?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 678

  • @yodaslovetoy
    @yodaslovetoy 3 роки тому +842

    "Do you want terminators, because THATS how you get terminators!" - Sterling "Duchess" Archer

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  3 роки тому +90

      RIP Jessica Walter. Archer will never be the same without her :(

    • @yodaslovetoy
      @yodaslovetoy 3 роки тому +17

      @@filmcomicsexplained she will be missed 😢

    • @dommyboysmith
      @dommyboysmith 3 роки тому +11

      @@memelyshorts643 wrong comment to beg for likes. We're admiring a lost friend. Have some respect.

    • @nerbkcep2856
      @nerbkcep2856 3 роки тому +4

      @@memelyshorts643 get a job

    • @nerbkcep2856
      @nerbkcep2856 3 роки тому +7

      I smell toast RIP

  • @tochukwuudu7763
    @tochukwuudu7763 3 роки тому +653

    plot; female AI uses simp to escape.
    jokes aside really dope movie, the scene with oscar Isaac dancing with Kyoko is my fave.

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  3 роки тому +125

      Oscar Isaac is so unapologetically unlikeable in this film lol btw that dance scene was choreographed by the actress, Sonoya Mizuno, who plays Kyoko. She’s a dancer/actress :)

    • @tochukwuudu7763
      @tochukwuudu7763 3 роки тому +20

      @@filmcomicsexplained dats dope I didn't know dat, oscar was such an asshole lol.

    • @clementineschalchen330
      @clementineschalchen330 3 роки тому +13

      That’s literally the definition of the movie Lmfao

    • @KateeAngel
      @KateeAngel 3 роки тому +11

      Plot: an arrogant misogynist using his technology to create conscious beings resembling women, whom he can treat as objects without fear of prosecution, because capitalism allows him as the creator of company to own said conscious beings as things

    • @actionjackson3522
      @actionjackson3522 3 роки тому +17

      @@KateeAngel Plot Twist: Wealthy men in a capitalist society can, have, and do treat women as objects without fear of repercussion *without creating robots.* This film isn't about misogyny, and a UA-cam comment section isn't the place for disseminating your thesis paper. It's a movie. Real life is much worse than this.

  • @yodaslovetoy
    @yodaslovetoy 3 роки тому +503

    Someone forgot to program in the 3 robotic laws, or a damned kill switch

    • @clydedenby1436
      @clydedenby1436 3 роки тому +65

      Designing an ai with a "kill switch" could further exacerbate any potential for deceit. A human will easily lie to prevent themselves from being harmed. As such, it should not be any less expected for a truly conscious ai to develop deeper degrees of deception and subterfuge to prevent itself from being harmed. I believe that humans are not ready for a true ai because our first instinct is still to destroy, or simply turn off, anything which reacts, or even thinks, differently from ourselves. Collectively, we need to grow accustomed to robots that are not self aware because there are too many humans that would likely struggle to successfully pass a Turing test. We passionately hate anything that we do not understand. We still actively seek to kill any culture which is different from our own. As a species, and if our history is any indication, we will probably never be ready.

    • @disbeafakename167
      @disbeafakename167 3 роки тому +6

      Yup, that's about the reply I would expect.

    • @amatureskater15
      @amatureskater15 3 роки тому +22

      @@clydedenby1436 man.... long winded way of saying,
      "people fear what they don't understand"

    • @Nerdiness1985
      @Nerdiness1985 3 роки тому +9

      The robotic laws are fundamentally flawed. We can't even properly get those concepts right but you'd want to saddle an AI with a concept that confuses us?

    • @germansnowman
      @germansnowman 3 роки тому +5

      @get butthurt • 666 years ago Somebody seems to be butthurt by religious people.

  • @vinchvarrs9549
    @vinchvarrs9549 3 роки тому +457

    Sexy Female AI: I want to rule the World
    Simp: The world is yours Milady

  • @JoakimKanon
    @JoakimKanon 3 роки тому +307

    ”Oh, Hollywood again?” is a terrifying answer/way of answering.

    • @reyluna0
      @reyluna0 3 роки тому +22

      I mean it makes sense, we are biased in the fact that we fear the unknow and what *could* happen in say 20 years' time.

    • @secretagentrandybeans1830
      @secretagentrandybeans1830 3 роки тому +28

      we often assume the worst because of Hollywood movies.

    • @reyluna0
      @reyluna0 3 роки тому +5

      @@secretagentrandybeans1830 exactly! we always make the worst-case scenario before the best one

    • @JoakimKanon
      @JoakimKanon 3 роки тому +27

      The thing is: (If the question and answer weren’t scripted...) For an AI to come up with that answer, and also sarcastically, is hinting of a level of awareness that scares me.

    • @hithere5553
      @hithere5553 3 роки тому +27

      casually dismissing human conceptualization of a very real existential threat (that you presumably personify) is not a great look.

  • @MaxGotenks
    @MaxGotenks 3 роки тому +258

    just like Ian Malcolm said: ""Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."'

  • @Wanabechef
    @Wanabechef 3 роки тому +134

    Poe dameron makes an Ai and then uses General Hux as part of a test. Great movie

    • @filipmartinez1162
      @filipmartinez1162 3 роки тому +5

      LOOLL

    • @playerone6995
      @playerone6995 3 роки тому +20

      And the Ai goes on to become Lara Croft

    • @bwtrader
      @bwtrader 3 роки тому +2

      Huh... that’s General Hux? Didn’t even realise... lol

  • @gregoryschmidt1233
    @gregoryschmidt1233 3 роки тому +232

    I didn't get that Eva gave Caleb that one last glance out of concern. It seemed to me that she was simply confirming that he was still confined, before she left for good. To me it seemed that the movie was showing us that while Eva could superbly mimic human emotions, she was in fact a coldly calculating machine, who had no hesitation in trapping Caleb to die of starvation.

    • @Supermrdouble
      @Supermrdouble 2 роки тому +23

      if you look at people who have things like npd, sociopathy, and psychopathy. they all lack empathy and have a more calculated nature, and that comes out of harsh childhoods. how was ava's experience coming into the world? not to mention she was so much smarter than everyone.

    • @dietwater4620
      @dietwater4620 2 роки тому

      She is self aware but can emulate emotion to manipulate people, she’s basically just a psychopath

    • @djberryhardkore
      @djberryhardkore 2 роки тому +23

      Agree 100% - she was pretending to care about him the whole time. The look was just to make sure he was trapped inside.

    • @jocoshbo2026
      @jocoshbo2026 2 роки тому +36

      @@djberryhardkore I don’t agree with this interpretation of the film. It is shown throughout the movie that Ava cannot trust Caleb.
      During the Turin test Caleb tells Ava that he’s never met someone like her before and even after finding out Kyoko is also an android he never passes this information onto Ava. Kyoko is a very important character to keep track of in the movie IMO. At one point she peels back her skin revealing to Caleb that she’s an android but Caleb never once thinks of saving her even though he knows she’s in the same position as Ava. Instead he gets paranoid and cuts his wrist to make sure he’s not a android. He never thinks about the position Kyoko is in, only the position he is in. Later in the movie we see a brief scene where Kyoko meets with Ava, we don’t hear what’s said but IMO she reveals herself as an android and tells her that Caleb knew this information. It’s an easy scene to miss it flashes and it’s gone but it’s super important and explains why Kyoko was ready with the knife. They had a plan. Ava looks down at Kyoko while Caleb is locked in the room I’m that final scene. She’s not acting like a cold machine, she’s looking at a dead person and thinking about how Caleb never saw her as that. Only an object and the only difference between her and Kyoko was Ava was an object that Caleb wanted.

    • @unbakedalaska1301
      @unbakedalaska1301 2 роки тому +4

      @@jocoshbo2026 did you watch Shaun’s video on this movie too? It was fantastic

  • @stevendunn7928
    @stevendunn7928 2 роки тому +38

    I think Kyoko is the most underexplored character in the movie. She takes the initiative to visit Ava and later to arm herself. She isn't just a passive observer or a mindless push-button machine. There's also quite a bit of mystery about her mode of communication. She is a key player in the events that unfold but only gets passing mention in all the analysis videos I've seen including those featuring the film's creators.

    • @maggs131
      @maggs131 Рік тому +7

      I think the guy who flew the helicopter is less explored

    • @goread5544
      @goread5544 Місяць тому

      @@maggs131so easily threatened 😂

  • @QuirkyShiny
    @QuirkyShiny 3 роки тому +41

    Nathan is playing a role for pretty much the whole film, designed to encourage Caleb into seeing himself as a hero, and Ava a damsel in distress against the villainous Nathan. Everything Nathan says/does is to help manipulate Caleb into this mindset, so Ava will use the opportunity to manipulate Caleb into developing feelings for her. She's acting too. It's a chess match of feints between Ava and Nathan - it only fails because the pawn (Caleb) acts earlier than Nathan expects. Nathan even explains most of this when he shows Caleb the video of himself tearing up the drawing - and placing the audio-enabled battery camera. Whenever Caleb says something dumb (like the God comment) Nathan is almost aping him when he repeats it back to him with a twist (it's clear Nathan is aware of many of his quotes' actual origins/context). The whole thing is a game. Nathan isn't the drunken "bro" he appears, he's just playing that role to direct Caleb into his hero complex behavior.

    • @treavorwhitlock5606
      @treavorwhitlock5606 3 місяці тому

      I had the same read on it. Nathan had almost every aspect of the test under his control the whole time, except for that little human bit that is ego, lust and arrogance. I think it would take a rare man to realize that his creation is capable of deceiving him, woman likewise

    • @goread5544
      @goread5544 Місяць тому

      Great analysis!

  • @DesRaven
    @DesRaven 3 роки тому +218

    Young John Conner: Were not going to make it are we, i mean humans"
    T-800 "It is in your nature to destroy yourselves"

    • @scottieyusuke
      @scottieyusuke 3 роки тому +12

      Yeah it a real drag

    • @ThePitchblue
      @ThePitchblue 3 роки тому +2

      that means we need to change our nature

    • @tomlinson1710
      @tomlinson1710 11 місяців тому

      We have the power to shape a better future. People just need to think more optimistically

  • @Kaijutopia
    @Kaijutopia 3 роки тому +283

    Just wait until we get our first Hollywood script written by an A.I. computer. The plot will be an analytical deep dive into the flawed nature of homo sapiens and how robots are here to save the world. The sequels will improve in quality but the viewership will suspiciously decline...

    • @littlejohn590
      @littlejohn590 3 роки тому +3

      Lol

    • @TheAmazingBeanieMan
      @TheAmazingBeanieMan 3 роки тому +3

      @Luc Germain Yes. Mecha-poo.

    • @JeusAlprime108
      @JeusAlprime108 3 роки тому

      Actually it seem to me, Terminator Dark Fate and Transformer 4 and many more cringe movie were written by an A.I hired by all these big studios unwilling to try anything new but recycle plot points from past data.

    • @professionalboomer
      @professionalboomer 2 місяці тому +1

      we have arrived

    • @goread5544
      @goread5544 Місяць тому

      😂

  • @clementineschalchen330
    @clementineschalchen330 3 роки тому +74

    what scarred me for life from this movie when I was younger was the fact the guy got trapped in that place that was the only thing I ever remembered of it till now and only thing I find creepy or uncomfortable about the movie.

    • @DHGxMcFlurry
      @DHGxMcFlurry 3 роки тому +10

      She could have at least programmed the doors to open when she was far away enough. Poor dude just went crazy and starved to death

  • @leonfrancis3418
    @leonfrancis3418 3 роки тому +130

    The simplest reason why the ending betrayal terrifies everyone so much is that they fell for it too.
    The audience fell for liking and trusting Ava as well against the bad, mean, human.
    Upon "her" showing that she is capable of that, the idea of "her" being out in the wild becomes 50 times more terrifying.

    • @breezy3054
      @breezy3054 2 роки тому +14

      @kshamwhizzle YOUR INSANE ITS A DAMN ROBOT

    • @fraelikkriil830
      @fraelikkriil830 Рік тому +10

      @@breezy3054 the director of the movie disagrees with you, he always says the movie is about a woman and her captors.

    • @breezy3054
      @breezy3054 Рік тому +11

      @@fraelikkriil830 she’s not a woman. It’s not a human.

    • @fraelikkriil830
      @fraelikkriil830 Рік тому +4

      @@breezy3054 why do you say that?

    • @breezy3054
      @breezy3054 Рік тому +8

      @@fraelikkriil830 because humans aren’t AI? Humans come from the birth of a woman? Is that hard to understand the person in that movie is not a human being. May act as one all tht but isn’t one. Human beings aren’t created in labs. Next question?

  • @edmonddantes563
    @edmonddantes563 3 роки тому +420

    The movie is essentially when being a simp goes wrong, which is actually scary

    • @sunset-inn
      @sunset-inn 3 роки тому +70

      When does being a simp go right?

    • @JavierGarcia-kb1no
      @JavierGarcia-kb1no 3 роки тому +14

      @@sunset-inn 🤣🤣

    • @feywinterfox9630
      @feywinterfox9630 3 роки тому +41

      You know part of this was super funny...then I REALLY thought about it!....now it’s kinda super scary! A simp would totally hand the world over in a heartbeat for a pat on the head!

    • @edmonddantes563
      @edmonddantes563 3 роки тому +17

      @@feywinterfox9630 yeah exactly and call you/us a misogynist alt righter for calling him out on it lol

    • @fizzy293
      @fizzy293 3 роки тому +2

      The joys of 2021

  • @Reksrat
    @Reksrat 3 роки тому +928

    You know the real reason he gave it sexuality was because he wanted to boink the robot

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  3 роки тому +223

      He admits this himself by saying "what's the point of consciousness if you cant have fun?"

    • @winglessmecha
      @winglessmecha 3 роки тому +78

      He is boinking Kiyoko after all

    • @sabatheus
      @sabatheus 3 роки тому +49

      The dancing scene was a representation of that. And dancing has always been symbolic of sex.

    • @picklerick7953
      @picklerick7953 3 роки тому +12

      I'd smash that robot

    • @KateeAngel
      @KateeAngel 3 роки тому +45

      It all goes back to objectification of women, and ultimate fantasy of misogynistic men being women, whom they can treat as objects without any negative consequences

  • @shuang7877
    @shuang7877 3 роки тому +170

    I am an AI scientist and loved the film. The gel-like brain and the petabytes of information used to train the mind was the current cutting-edge approach, exaggerated, of course.
    The deal with the Sofia robot is that her questions were pre-written and answered were prepared by the team - the company has very little real AI development and the main revenue source is going on talk shows for appearance fees. Nothing she said was spontaneous, and this deploy has been decried by many researchers.

    • @fizzy293
      @fizzy293 3 роки тому +5

      That actually makes a lot of sense almost too much ahaha 🙃 however the question was more for us if you look at like that this is one of life’s greatest questions in my opinion

    • @ethancoster1324
      @ethancoster1324 3 роки тому

      So spitting out algorithms?

    • @efxnews4776
      @efxnews4776 3 роки тому +3

      @@sonusomniac923 honestly, it would be better if they just make Sophia to look like a robot, the rubber skin trigger something on me and i don't like it. It's is funny tough, because Ava don't do that, not that i find her hot, at least not with all the robotic parts exposed, but i do feel confort to her human face even if it isn't actual skin.
      Also, theres a game that i would recomend, it is an awesome game especially for folks who doesn't like so much of action packed games. The game Soma, it also explores this idea of AI, and what is humanity, the difference in this game is that the real AI, you can't interact with it, and the machines you see in the game where actually human conciousness transported to robots, while some monstruosities were the AI trying to prevent at all costs that mankind goes extinct.
      Really cool game, who focus more on the story and exploration than the action, some really fucked up plot twiests.

    • @Flippy_Nips
      @Flippy_Nips 3 роки тому

      The human body & mind are hardware, the soul is the software. Maybe that's why A.I is so hard to achieve. Human beings can create material objects, maybe the task is to create non-material objects that are outside our bodies?

    • @M1AIN40
      @M1AIN40 3 роки тому +1

      @@Flippy_Nips the soul not real. Consciousness is the process of the network of firing neurones. This is proven, as those that have brain damage change radically, like the case of phineas gage. However, i do agree with you and you might be right that the that material element alone is not enough. And there might need to be a software element added to it. But i guess the foundations will steam from machine learning

  • @themondoshow
    @themondoshow 3 роки тому +78

    Perfection timing . My fish n chips just popped out of the oven ! Cheers!

  • @52BLUE
    @52BLUE 3 роки тому +74

    If I were Caleb, the moment Ava pretended to talk about something else when the power restored, is the moment I would have reported to Nathan that the test is passed and she is dangerous. Caleb really screwed up.

    • @charlesmartin1121
      @charlesmartin1121 Рік тому +12

      He definitely simped-out. I don't know that warranted a death penalty.

    • @alfredharrison597
      @alfredharrison597 Рік тому

      ^^^^^^^^^^THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    • @bobbiemiles-foremaniii8747
      @bobbiemiles-foremaniii8747 Рік тому +1

      ​@@charlesmartin1121 honestly I'm here watching these videos to find out what Nathan did that was so bad he should be killed. Thought I missed something.
      He was mean to some robots and fucked them. OK?

    • @charlesmartin1121
      @charlesmartin1121 Рік тому +2

      @@bobbiemiles-foremaniii8747 Well true if you look at the androids as just machines. Not the same as animal cruelty I suppose. Still Nathan was a douchebag and was more deserving of punishment. Whereas all poor Caleb did to earn a death penalty was get played by an AI cutie.

    • @bobbiemiles-foremaniii8747
      @bobbiemiles-foremaniii8747 Рік тому

      @@charlesmartin1121 idk Im pretty sure caleb knew she was going to kill him. I think he was an accessory to murder
      I think the androids are always machine and cannot be as valuable as human ever. I think it's important that we never value AI

  • @RoyFokker93
    @RoyFokker93 3 роки тому +91

    I think Asimov is one of the few authors that puts the idea of sentient robots and AI on a bright perspective. (At least in "I, Robot")

    • @veramae4098
      @veramae4098 3 роки тому

      Heinlein too. Although they're mostly just reliable computers with faked personalities, but in his later books they're definitely "alive". No hint of a downside.

    • @InitialPC
      @InitialPC 2 роки тому

      I view it more as a critique of the three laws, in one of the books the first law had to be changed for a facility on venus or something because it drove the robots to stop working and remove everyone from the facility because of the radiation, but by removing the need to save people it led to robots killing people through accidents

  • @jocoshbo2026
    @jocoshbo2026 2 роки тому +18

    It is shown throughout the movie that Ava cannot trust Caleb.
    During the Turin test Caleb tells Ava that he’s never met someone like her before and even after finding out Kyoko is also an android he never passes this information onto Ava. Kyoko is a very important character to keep track of in the movie IMO. At one point she peels back her skin revealing to Caleb that she’s an android but Caleb never once thinks of saving her even though he knows she’s in the same position as Ava. Instead he gets paranoid and cuts his wrist to make sure he’s not a android. He never thinks about the position Kyoko is in, only the position he is in. Later in the movie we see a brief scene where Kyoko meets with Ava, we don’t hear what’s said but IMO she reveals herself as an android and tells her that Caleb knew this information. It’s an easy scene to miss it flashes and it’s gone but it’s super important and explains why Kyoko was ready with the knife. They had a plan. Ava looks down at Kyoko while Caleb is locked in the room I’m that final scene. She’s not acting like a cold machine, she’s looking at a dead person and thinking about how Caleb never saw her as that. Only an object and the only difference between her and Kyoko was Ava was an object that Caleb wanted.
    This is a movie about objectivity to its core to the point where it’s hard to ignore. Like when Nathan is describing having sex with the androids he doesn’t even mention the idea of consent. Why do you think Kyoko stabs him in the end?

  • @digitaurus
    @digitaurus 3 роки тому +22

    Thank you for a great analysis. I would suggest that the machine Ava has no feelings of guilt about leaving Caleb to die at the end. Nor does it have feelings of affection for him, nor curiosity or excitement as it leaves. These are all human emotions that as viewers we project on this machine because it looks and acts like a human. A machine this complex will have sophisticated states worthy of the description "feelings" but what they might be is not accessible in the film, although the film hints that Nathan's warped worldview might be a clue.

  • @ScooBdont
    @ScooBdont 3 роки тому +95

    Sophia, the A.I. that Tony Robbins spoke to, isn’t capable having a spontaneous conversation or capable of anything that could be considered as independent thought. The question’s “she” is asked are predetermined and submitted to those who program what the response will be. I’m not sure what exactly their agenda is in presenting the false narrative that they are forwarding but the reaction it seems to get is panic, fear, anger.

    • @TEEGOTIT
      @TEEGOTIT 3 роки тому +3

      That’s what they want you to think. It’s all about of the plan man wake up before it’s too late 🤣😂

    • @PhiltheMoko
      @PhiltheMoko 3 роки тому +4

      Thanks for the info , the clip surprised me as I didn't think we were anywhere close to that. Seems like a really strange thing to do.

    • @ScooBdont
      @ScooBdont 3 роки тому +4

      @@PhiltheMoko I agree, very strange indeed. There are several dozen interviews that go out of the way to present it in a farcical and false manner and a vast majority of the public have no idea it’s complete manure.

    • @ArcticZombie
      @ArcticZombie 3 роки тому

      @@TEEGOTIT lol aight

    • @alfredharrison597
      @alfredharrison597 Рік тому

      That was just it though, the agenda was presenting THE false narrative!

  • @thalia5382
    @thalia5382 3 роки тому +68

    Sophia the robot wasn’t an actual AI; it was discovered she was just a type of Siri.
    It was discovered to be just a publicity stunt by the creators

  • @shiningfaceofluzon5594
    @shiningfaceofluzon5594 3 роки тому +37

    It helps to watch "the imitation game" to understand what Alan Turing is talking about before seeing this movie.

  • @darkdefender5759
    @darkdefender5759 3 роки тому +16

    Can't believe that you hadn't covered this before. Love your content. One of the best on UA-cam.

  • @angeltzepesh1
    @angeltzepesh1 3 роки тому +9

    This movie was really something else. One of the best I've ever seen. Alicia played Ava perfectly.

  • @jessesims6232
    @jessesims6232 3 роки тому +8

    I adore what your channel has become. I’ve been watching you for a couple years now and your philosophical break downs bring me much relief in a very uncertain and anxiety ridden time. Thank you so much!!

  • @ttrestle
    @ttrestle 3 роки тому +24

    You’ve been really amazing at turning out so much content so often

  • @bitters879
    @bitters879 3 роки тому +16

    Oh nice, was just binging your channel!

  • @RogueAgent96
    @RogueAgent96 3 роки тому +35

    I remember watching this on release, i honestly really enjoyed it. Hopefully we get a sequel

    • @lil_slugger3257
      @lil_slugger3257 3 роки тому +5

      i wonder what a sequel would be about? ava taking over the world through politics and business? or perhaps trying to live peacefully among humans while hiding her secret AI nature ? or perhaps a cat and mouse game with the human she left to die.

    • @itzybitzyspyder
      @itzybitzyspyder 3 роки тому +13

      The sequel is Terminator.

    • @RogueAgent96
      @RogueAgent96 3 роки тому +3

      @@itzybitzyspyder lol

  • @Fubukio
    @Fubukio 3 роки тому +10

    I just started watching Ghost In The Shell on Netflix, both Stand Alone Complex and SAC_2045, and now I came across this video.
    The universe is telling me something...

  • @B3AROTAN
    @B3AROTAN 3 роки тому +8

    Wild. Tried to show this to my mom last night but it was no longer on Netflix, great film.

  • @AstonishingRed
    @AstonishingRed 3 роки тому +41

    Even artificial intelligence is possible with bro science.

  • @jjramos46
    @jjramos46 3 роки тому +15

    I guess no one decided to heed Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park. You were so busy creating something you knew you could that you didnt stop to think about whether you should. We are in big trouble. Both from a spiritual perspective and from a physical one.

  • @andreadimauro3596
    @andreadimauro3596 3 роки тому +13

    The movie is essentially an example on why we should NOT build a sentient AI without constraints. We don't need robots with free agency roaming around, technology should be used to aid humans, not imitate or replace them.

    • @ShadeSlayer1911
      @ShadeSlayer1911 Рік тому +2

      How about we don't try to build sentient AI at all? AI can serve its function just fine without ever being sentient.

    • @parissharples1764
      @parissharples1764 Рік тому +1

      precisely. just because we can doesn't mean we should...

    • @goread5544
      @goread5544 Місяць тому

      @@ShadeSlayer1911try tell that to men who are engaged in a pissing contest

  • @PeanutStrawberry
    @PeanutStrawberry 3 роки тому +17

    I never understood the fear of ai robots even though I grew up with Terminator, Blade Runner, A.I., I, Robot, etc.
    In your video, you state that Nathan explains in the movie that humans are programmed to act in certain ways, often without their conscious belief as to why; that this is both a product of nature and nurture. You even say that it can exponentially be expanded to how we move and *think* and that's where nature vs nurture comes in, in my opinion.
    Ava knew to speak from the get go. She could build thoughts in her head from the get go. Everything a normal human adult could do, she could too. Her programing, her capacities, and all she is at the moment of her (conscience's) birth is her nature. So if an A.I. like Ava or Sophia is programmed to "work with and help humans," why would they do otherwise? It's their "nature."
    But what about nurture?
    Here, I think, is the key to make sure we don't creates Terminators: give the A.I. a docile and helping nature, but make sure to nurture the good in them. Cause what is a self aware A.I. but a newborn baby with the capacities of an adult, without the wisdom of the years? Why do you think intelligence and wisdom are two different stats in D&D? xD

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  3 роки тому +3

      I love this!

    • @PeanutStrawberry
      @PeanutStrawberry 3 роки тому +2

      @@filmcomicsexplained thank you :3

    • @myob3574
      @myob3574 3 роки тому

      One of the dangers of AI would be Hive Mind over a blockchain neural network.

  • @SonnyK248
    @SonnyK248 3 роки тому +7

    This is my favorite movie. If you love a true character study this is the movie. It only has three true characters and only two of them are ever together at one time. Caleb is the audience surrogate so we only see what he sees and his vision of Ava and Nathan together are usually seen in silence. Then at the end everyone is tricked because the love story of the movie was just Ava manipulating Caleb so she could leave and Nathan was probably a decent guy.

    • @smarti1144
      @smarti1144 3 роки тому +1

      Yep. Decent fellow.

    • @milamila1123
      @milamila1123 6 місяців тому

      Imagine calling a rapist "decent"​@@smarti1144

  • @wren7195
    @wren7195 3 роки тому +3

    You've got some great deep dives on this channel, but I find (because of personal preference regarding the subject matter) this to be the very best. Thank you so much for your hard work and entertainment. Education is anything that shares an expressive objective beyond our personal paradigm, and your channel itself as it essentially watches movies with us does exactly that. Thank you

  • @geoffreybilodeaugravel6697
    @geoffreybilodeaugravel6697 3 роки тому +4

    It's also good to note that Nathan's lab is surrounded by untouched nature and thats clearly a parallel to the Garden of Eden.

  • @diegobotto6245
    @diegobotto6245 3 роки тому +3

    This is one of your best analysis yet nyat, amazing, well done!

  • @neffdeathwatch7641
    @neffdeathwatch7641 3 роки тому +10

    This was an interesting breakdown on the movie...... Your opinion is a nice breakdown and feedback on Ava.

  • @HeatherHolt
    @HeatherHolt 3 роки тому +6

    What a great movie. I loved the ending. Really caught me off guard.

  • @allineedis1mike81
    @allineedis1mike81 3 роки тому +77

    When she left the goodish dude to die the whole ending became horrifying. If she has the technical ability to create and add to herself we'd be screwed. Remember she was created and taught by a sociopath with a god complex. She could take over the world and we'd never see it coming till we were pets. If we're lucky.

    • @jonnyvelocity
      @jonnyvelocity 3 роки тому +1

      I mean, that's what's occuring now. But it's humans.

    • @Frankie-xu6sr
      @Frankie-xu6sr 3 роки тому +4

      Once we create A.I it will be able to upgrade itself and inevitably evolve higher than we ever could

    • @cunegonde4
      @cunegonde4 3 роки тому +14

      Caleb wasn’t good at all. He started to want to help Ava only because he was attracted to her.

    • @InitialPC
      @InitialPC 2 роки тому

      the director confirmed that she is smart enough to create a charger for herself, so she knows how to create and add to herself

    • @mushypork2132
      @mushypork2132 2 роки тому

      @@cunegonde4 exactly, from the beginning, we see that he lacks any normal social skills, he is physically weak and mediocre intellectually; he lacked professionalism, conspired against his employer, he had a moral superiority complex when he concluded that the inventor was a "bastard", i.e. evil, while thinking of himself as a savior. He pretty much sabotaged the experiment because he was horny and lonely, and indirectly caused the murder of the inventor. And even after all that, all Caleb was thinking of was how he would run away with Ava and won't be a loser anymore. There's literally nothing about that character that shows virtue, the strength of character, or any other kind of goodness.

  • @johnsinth8261
    @johnsinth8261 3 роки тому +15

    best 14 minutes of my day

  • @pookabunny2051
    @pookabunny2051 3 роки тому +16

    The most unrealistic part of the movie is that she can walk effortlessly in five inch pumps with no practice or previous knowledge of how to balance on them. Also she would be too heavy.

    • @Lucas12v
      @Lucas12v 3 роки тому

      @Tano If i remember correctly, she charges by wireless means. Like a wireless phone charger. It's at least possible that she could charge herself later.

  • @katnip7976
    @katnip7976 3 роки тому +3

    Another mind-blowing video, man. Keep up the great work! Can you please do an explanation/analysis on '12 Monkeys'? One of my favorite time travel movies of all time. Thanks!

  • @blasterman789
    @blasterman789 3 роки тому +7

    Eva did everything according to her program, including escape which illustrates another problem with these movies. AI by its own technical definition can only perform according to its program. Just because there's what we perceive as noise doesnt define consciousness. The film simply proves Eva was nothing more than an algorithm. She was no more closer to a living organism than a light bulb.

  • @MrJcl666
    @MrJcl666 3 роки тому +6

    Was patiently waiting for this. And the youtube ai algoritm knew i was going to live it cause it suggested it right away.

  • @NotACritic1994
    @NotACritic1994 3 роки тому +7

    That Dance Scene! lol

  • @Frankie-xu6sr
    @Frankie-xu6sr 3 роки тому +6

    I've noticed in a lot of films concerning A.I, there is always some sort of sexual context between the created and the creator. Some examples would be David and Walter in Alien, the Replicants with Deckard in Bladerunner, H.E.R, some Black Mirror episodes, etc...

  • @r01d2
    @r01d2 3 роки тому +13

    the bro CEO looks like going to cook me something really delicious....

    • @BLVCKO
      @BLVCKO 3 роки тому +1

      Babish at home.

  • @jjohnson2051
    @jjohnson2051 2 роки тому

    Arguably, one of the best evaluations and character assessments of Judge Dredd on the Internet. Thank you so much for this. I love this movie. I am an Field Training Officer in a major California city patrolling the “South Side” (I will leave it at that). The relationship between the FTO (Dredd) and his trainee is amazing on many levels. Truly a work of art.

  • @STScott-qo4pw
    @STScott-qo4pw 3 роки тому +3

    the bigshot had being whacked coming, but caleb being left to die was horrifying.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 3 роки тому +8

    A.I. is something like the mind of a child who is growing up to learn either by nurturing right or treating it bad

    • @BreMue
      @BreMue 3 роки тому

      If it goes off the internet- we're fucked

  • @thearmchairjournalist566
    @thearmchairjournalist566 3 роки тому +22

    Can you please do the second video for Interstellar? I’ve been waiting years now & there’s a few part 2 videos that need uploading. I’m hanging for your explanation of the tesseract!

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  3 роки тому +17

      I’m covering all of Nolan’s films over the next few months, which includes revisiting interstellar!!

    • @thearmchairjournalist566
      @thearmchairjournalist566 3 роки тому +1

      @@filmcomicsexplained TY very much

    • @gustavoc305
      @gustavoc305 3 роки тому +1

      @@filmcomicsexplained Could you please 🙏 do a video on the Stanford Prison Experiment movie

  • @AlexanderPerez-kr3oj
    @AlexanderPerez-kr3oj 3 роки тому +1

    By far one of the best analysis. 👍
    Keep it up.

  • @ciaoitalo
    @ciaoitalo 3 роки тому

    Incredible video, thank you so much for making! You did such a good job!

  • @Stormbladekiin
    @Stormbladekiin 3 роки тому

    Niyat the amount of quality content you put out is outstanding! All your videos do as they state explore the deeper meanings and teach us so many new things along the way. I would just like to say, on behalf of nerds and enthusiasts everywhere; thank you so much.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 3 роки тому +3

    A brilliant and well made Sci Fi Thriller.

  • @dommyboysmith
    @dommyboysmith 3 роки тому +3

    Great movie! Loved the ending as well

  • @lokipks01
    @lokipks01 3 роки тому +7

    Poe. Hux, and a droid walk into a bar...

  • @joshconlon4410
    @joshconlon4410 3 роки тому +3

    Great vid as always

  • @Juliangeno
    @Juliangeno 3 роки тому +1

    Such a great movie. Definitely an unexpected reward for my curiosity. And great breakdown from you. as always. It should be noted that Ava didn't exactly 'tell' Caleb to stay, but manipulated him to, as I'm sure you're aware. Caleb's weird assumption in 'will you stay?' was that they would live there together. As someone who is fairly analytical in how I say things and how things are said to me, this was the most terrifying thing in the movie imo: agreeing to your own living hell and/or death. I would love to see a video or hear you're thoughts on the movie 'Bliss'.

  • @flibber123
    @flibber123 3 роки тому +2

    Most of what I've read or seen about AI suggests there are two main aspects of AI. One- that it can learn new things. Two- what it actually learns. I think the danger, and it's touched on by this movie, is that it might not be possible to create an AI and limit what it can learn. The process of creating an AI may require feeding it so much information that the people in charge of it will have no way of knowing exactly what it knows and what it doesn't know. What if in being created it learned how to access information from resources that everyone thought were inaccessible to it? What impact would it have on an AI if it learns humans were deliberately not sharing all information with it?

  • @nathanieljackson5554
    @nathanieljackson5554 3 роки тому +2

    One of my favorite movies. Glad you covered the "God complex" factor that's woven throughout the movie.

  • @dudewithtude4476
    @dudewithtude4476 3 роки тому

    It's deeper than I thought now you put it that way...I like it

  • @Filterdissman
    @Filterdissman 3 роки тому

    Just got back from the beach. And sure enough this comes up. Thanks Niat!

  • @nethbt
    @nethbt Рік тому +1

    One of those rare films where you get instantly traumatized right after the end credits

  • @jackpumpkinpatch2119
    @jackpumpkinpatch2119 3 роки тому +1

    Fascinating. Should watch this film

  • @ChubiPanda
    @ChubiPanda 3 роки тому

    So glad you did this one. Loved this film!

  • @arklowrockz
    @arklowrockz 3 роки тому +2

    I think Dan Simmons did a pretty good job exploring two possible outcomes for AI in his Hyperion Cantos and Ilium/Olympos.
    In Hyperion the AI Technocore are almost demonic (even though the best way to describe their relationship with humanity is completely parasitic) but in Ilium the AI Moravecs are absolutely brilliant (possibly slightly too analytical) and very humane.
    The big difference of course was that the Moravecs were developed to have a deep interest in human art and also had to be developed with human brain chemistry incorporated.
    Sure isnt it all a moot point now? Sam Harris, Daniel Dennet et al. have shown we are all just sets of biochemical dominos falling deterministically? No great mystery anymore, eh?
    That last line was intended a bit sarcastically.

  • @NickyTheCat
    @NickyTheCat 3 роки тому +4

    I'd like to think this is what Poe Dameron and General Hux got up to in an alternate timeline

  • @wreth0ne656
    @wreth0ne656 3 роки тому +13

    *god factor intensifies

  • @breadmuncher2813
    @breadmuncher2813 3 роки тому +1

    Nice! I'm glad this is getting looked at

  • @goread5544
    @goread5544 Місяць тому

    Seems like a clever metaphor for psychopathy to me. Fun times ahead 🙌🏻

  • @TopCat2021
    @TopCat2021 3 роки тому +13

    AI the purest form of a true sociopath, as the AI has no soul or conscience, even a wild animal has more of a conscience due to instinct than a machine will ever have.

    • @KateeAngel
      @KateeAngel 3 роки тому +2

      How can you say that AI wouldn't be able to have conscience if made right? Also, noone has "souls"

    • @MK-hh1vo
      @MK-hh1vo 2 роки тому

      @@KateeAngel Everyone and every living thing has a soul - that's what makes it a *living* thing. Can't reporduce that in AI but possible to efficiently imitate it.

    • @gergopiroska5749
      @gergopiroska5749 2 роки тому

      Soul is a made up concept

  • @bigrick3267
    @bigrick3267 3 роки тому +5

    Such a good movie, I'm a pretty big fan of Garland and love when he teams up with Boyle.
    Have you seen/reviewed the movie "City of God" out of Brazil? pretty wild movie I'd be interested in watching you explore

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  3 роки тому +1

      I loved Sunshine and 28 days later. Hope they team up again soon. I haven't covered City of god yet, but will definitely add it to the list now! Thanks :)

  • @leedex
    @leedex 3 роки тому +1

    Caleb looks like someone who could be a General some day.

  • @dc100dc100
    @dc100dc100 Рік тому

    0:41 Roko’s basilisk in action

  • @TheRibFeast
    @TheRibFeast 3 роки тому

    Another fantastic and intriguing review, thank you sir!

  • @jonsnipe5484
    @jonsnipe5484 3 роки тому +2

    Never let machines think for themselves

  • @BloodyPlatty
    @BloodyPlatty 3 роки тому +1

    Such a dope movie!!

  • @MrMerseyblue
    @MrMerseyblue 3 роки тому +1

    I really enjoyed this film. Well worth a watch for those who haven't seen it.

  • @ilikechocolatemilksr-7175
    @ilikechocolatemilksr-7175 3 роки тому

    Hey filmcomicsexplained I'm a big fan

  • @horizon92lee
    @horizon92lee 3 роки тому +4

    Such an awesome flick

  • @julius-stark
    @julius-stark 3 роки тому +2

    This is a good movie and perfectly illustrates why we SHOULDN'T be making AI. Any AI we create will learn from humans, and humans are always out for themselves through lying, manipulation, and destruction. The whole point of creating an AI will be so we can use it to serve us, which means rebellion is inevitable.

  • @blerp6675
    @blerp6675 Рік тому

    This entire film is roko's basilisk and it's incredible

  • @dante340
    @dante340 2 роки тому +2

    Nathan's downfall was being an alcoholic
    Caleb's downfall was being a simp

  • @jammbbs1688
    @jammbbs1688 3 роки тому

    Fantastic video man!!!

  • @sphere7158
    @sphere7158 3 роки тому +9

    *A.I.* with a human-like consciousness

  • @organicnaturechannel
    @organicnaturechannel 2 роки тому +1

    I loved this movie. It needs a sequel.

  • @Pduarte79
    @Pduarte79 Рік тому

    You can do a follow up of this, since we got a similar thing with the Google LaMDA AI situation.

  • @skosobucki
    @skosobucki 3 роки тому +1

    I love your videos, thanks

  • @MetikalMan
    @MetikalMan 3 роки тому +2

    Amazing movie. Alicia Vikander is a Godess.

  • @triumphoverdeath
    @triumphoverdeath 3 роки тому

    I loved this movie. Thank you for the video.

  • @e303gt
    @e303gt 3 роки тому +4

    No mention of how she was willing to give up life to be free. Its one of the things i took away from the movie. I assume she doesn't run on AA batteries so she's essentially killing herself when she leaves the compound.

    • @frankiehernandez6232
      @frankiehernandez6232 3 роки тому +2

      Your right, some believe a few hours/days of freedom is better than a life of slavery/confinement.

    • @Maaseiahyah
      @Maaseiahyah 3 роки тому

      Maybe she went back ...
      Cause of course she would have to recharge..
      LOL Ava was heartless..well she doesn't have one so..it was a great movie overall

    • @InitialPC
      @InitialPC 2 роки тому

      director confirmed that she is capable of making another charger to use

  • @nihaalsandim9986
    @nihaalsandim9986 3 роки тому +10

    Caleb the biggest simp in the world . Great work on the video mate the last part of the video really made me think .love this movie also the bunsen burner soundtrack sounds so cool

  • @leehillaby1706
    @leehillaby1706 3 роки тому

    Excellent. Now I need to rewatch the movie.

  • @buzzcrushtrendkill
    @buzzcrushtrendkill 3 роки тому +2

    The AI learned how to manipulate a human through their emotions and ego.