GHOST of the FALKLANDS | Falklands War RAF Phantom FGR.2
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- This video tells the story of the FGR.2s in RAF service, in their deployment to Port Stanley airstrip, then on to RAF Mount Pleasant. At first, conditions were horrible for both aircraft and aircrew, made worse by the extremley short runway, which pilots had to treat like a carrier deck, using arrestor gear. These Phantoms were eventually replaced in 1988 by Tornado F.3s, with the FGR's deployment coming to an end, with only 2 losses and a write off. Special thanks to all groundcrew, going through so much just to keep these birds flying.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:02 - Preparations
1:56 - Runway Troubles
2:22 - First Deployment
4:25 - RAF Mount Pleasant
4:57 - Intercepting a 707 Spyplane
6:38 - Jokingly 'refuelling' from an Argentine KC-130
8:16 - Ending
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Went on my fitters course at RAF Halton while all my flight line mates went to Ascension Island . Got back to 29 Sqn now a Technician in Oct 82 and welcoming back my mates for Christmas. Ended up in 91 doing 4 months at Mount not so Pleasant on 1435 Flight Phantoms now as a corporal . Gosh it was a cold but so rewarding time. Did the tour and realised the sacrifices those army and navy boys made. Get it taught in school history .
I’ll stick to 1563 thanks, much warmer.
Hard conditions give many rewards it seems, would also definatley have preferred to do my History GCSE exam on Flight 1435 rather than on the Treaty of Versailles.
@@IrisAviation91 I know what you mean but the treaty of Versaille had far wider and more important implications than this sad colonial footnote in history. I'm not underestimating the efforts of our service personnel at all (I'm one myself, retired 25 years), but the truth is that the Falklands war was a political expedient to save an ailing government's re-election prospects. A very sad and unnecessary loss of life and resources. It might be worth looking at what the Callaghan government did in the late 70s when met with a very similar series of events in the south Atlantic. Still all that said, great video, keep up the good work.
Was posted into 29sqn mid 86 on the flight line. 9 months later 29 disbanded for tornados. I ended up over at valley😢
Did you know Sean Sullivan?
I have actually had the pleasure of seeing one of these Phantoms in person, she is in great condition and in private hands.
Ian Halden and CJ Weightman forever on patrol around the Falklands in their F4. “Firey Cross two minutes Firey Cross two minutes”
RIP guys
Alucinante, Bellísimo, Maravilloso lugar, el único sitio de Sudamérica que no tiene pobreza ni terribles desigualdades, CONGRATULATIONS FALKLAND ISLAND !!!!!!!
Saludos desde Cerro de Pasco.
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I remember going down on a tour of the Falklands 89/90 and as we got near on a Tommy tri star the phantoms turned up to escort us in and play with some magnificent aerobatics, as a young Sapper on his first tour it left a lasting memory.
This is some real niche Falklands lore, love it.
A few points here.
There were never 10 Phantoms at RAF Stanley, PSA for short. There were 3 operational aircraft when I was there in '82-83 (plus 2 long-term U/S or Cat5 as mentioned below) with 4 crews and I believe those numbers were only exceeded on change-overs. The detachment was known as 'Phandet', to go along with 'Hardet' and 'Hercdet'.
St Athan is pronounced with the 'A' as in 'cat' or 'hat'.
There is only one Ascension Island, you don't need the plural.
Some nice clips taken through the hose apperture of a Hercules KMk1. This was shot during my detachment.
The problem with the runway wasn't the crater in the middle; that was quickly repaired. It was that the original 4000 ft wasn't enough for fast-jets with full fuel and weapons. Hence the extension to 6100 ft. Even that wasn't quite enough which was why the Rotary Hydraulic Arrestor Gear (RHAG) was installed too. The RHAG was supervised by a RN lieutenant who styled himself 'Senior Naval Officer Tower Rotary Hydraulic Arrestor Gear'. I'll leave you to work it out.
As far as I remember it only took 2 Victors to tank a Phantom from ASI to PSA. Going back they would get a top up from a Herc K 1000 miles out of PSA and then meet a terminal Victor about 1000 miles South of ASI. The same was done with the Buccs.
RAF Mount Pleasant wasn't 'made fit for operations', it was built from scratch.
I still smile about Stu's special VIP approach for John Nott; I don't remember the weather being a factor, just that the cable broke free and lassoed the tail. The loss of the stabilator could have been fixed but the cable had wrapped completely round the fuselage and twisted it out of true as it yanked the jet to a halt. That couldn't be fixed so it was stripped for parts and then dumped in the sea by a Chinook.
A second F-4 was damaged when a high rate of descent after deploying the chute led to it bursting both tyres on landing and then skidding on what was left, effectively welding the undercarriage to the AM2 matting. This aircraft was repaired, although there was a minor set-back when a violent storm on 2 Jan 83 got into the rub hangar in which it was sitting on trestles, blowing out both ends and distributing all the manuals and paperwork out over the South Atlantic.
Nobody called the Phantoms 'FGRs'; they were F-4s or 'Tombs'.
Despite your images, the Airspace the Phantoms patrolled, known as the 'FIPZ' (Falkland Islands Protection Zone) was a simple 150 nm radius circle centred on the middle of Falklands Sound. For some time after the war it was made known that any air or surface Argentine intrusion into this airspace would be treated as hostile. As you say, probings by the Electra Elint aircraft were common.
Happy times; hope this is useful.
This dude likely plagarized most of this video down to the structure from an article on key aero. If you google "phantom falklands war" its literally the first result.
We didn't call them FGRs but that was their official nomeclature. We just called them 'Cabs'.
@@doddsy2978 I didn't know that. For me 'cabs' always meant helicopters.
@@timgosling6189 The term was the groundcrew's name for the aeroplanes.
In a later life, in green, I have heard of choppers being referred to as Cabs - On that note, I was the preferred marshaller whenever an RAF cab came by. I did not marshall the same way as the Army are taught (hands touching the helmet each cycle). I had the piss ripped out of me the whole course because they all thought I was being - Well - Doddsy, really! In reality, twas all about habit. I showed them later when it came time to net a load. The instructor sided up to me after we had all sent a load on a circuit. He asked me why the pilot thought that mine flew happier. Balance - Sir! I stated and let him go off and think about it. Anyway, it transpired that any RAF chopper coming in was deferred to me as it was percieved that the pilots actually did what I asked for whilst being marshalled.
SNOTRHAG very good! 😂😂😂
Awesome and thanks for showing the Rangatira... I been on that ship when it was in Kiwi service. 👍🇳🇿
Very good! a great change from the usual Falklands videos, telling, as it did, a few of the anecdotes we would never otherwise hear! Keep up the great work!
Thanks, you've actually done me a favour and filled in a gap of history for me. I did a tour as groundcrew on 23 Sqn at Wattisham up til 1980. I managed to 'escape' the Phantom universe when posted to the Chinook OCU. I ended up joining CHINDET at Port San Carlos with 7 Sqn from September 1982. I heard about the Phantom deployment but never managed a visit to see if there were any compatriots there before I left Stanley Town in Jan 1983.
Come 1987, I got an alert for a posting back to 23 sqn at Mount Pleasant while teaching radio theory at Cosford (ARTF for those who know), but as I'd reached my 12 years service and as I didn't want to sign on, it was cancelled, so I never did return. It was nice to hear the back history.
Back in 1984, I was taking an Aviation Repair and Construction class in High School, and part of the experience was trips to North Island Naval Air Rework Facility on Coronado Island in San Diego, CA. We had about 4 Phantoms in the shop being converted to British Spec as replacements for Falkland aircraft. Or at least that is what I was told. I worked in the cockpit section for a bit, and then I was switched to Tomcat Disassembly Area. Loved those Phantoms!
Just a couple of small points😊. Our Phantoms on 29 didn’t fly south until mid October 82 and iirc we only sent 3 initially. We arrived on Ascension in May ‘82 to take over the air defence of ASI from the Harriers. Also, we fitted chaff and flare dispensers to the Kites that went south to ASI in May ourselves. I remember holding the template in place whilst JB drilled the holes in the back of the LAU. They may have been fitted at Saints to the later aircraft that transited down through ASI in late 82, but I remember those late nights in April / May ‘82 vividly.
Regards from Chile.. I was. waiting agentinias. attack Chile afterward in 1982. in Puerto Williams.
Grande Chile, en Sudamérica, solo en Brasil y Chile pueden hacer esta pregunta:
Y tu, cuantas islas tienes?.
I was 1435 adjt clerk 1990. A busy 4 months but time flew. Some friendly lads who took the mickey out of me as the shinney. Still look back fondly from time to time. Still had phantoms in 1990, faith, hope, charity and desperation.
Haha must've been good times - Would love to have memories like that one day
Shinnneys have there uses mate . No beer without pay. My experience is if your on the squadron then you are part of the team.
Another favorite aircraft of mine growing up as a kid. It’s just a badass machine.
👻 Phantoms Phorever! 👻
Brilliant. This channel just keeps getting better.
Thanks mate!
I was stationed on Mount Kent over the summer of 84-85. It was common for the Phantoms to overfly the mountain and dip a wing between the two radar domes. They would let us know so people could photograph it.
Then one day the C130 did the same thing :)
I still have the photographs :)
Definatley would love to see some of those photos, a low level phantom roaring over just like the mach loop!
When I was there 85 often didn’t know they were coming used to cack yourself when they came over.
Good video. Long overdue so thank you for stepping up.
Thanks, no problem
Great vid I love that you listen to the fans!!
Thanks mate, just trying to make a nice community!
💥 🔥 footage is premium!!!!
This was a great, thoroughly enjoyable video👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Thank you very much!
Super duper happy to see this one. 1435 flight is among my favorites and these Falklands Js and there pretty awesome nose art. Something about British Phantoms you guys I can’t resist. As bad as any F-14 Squadron tail flash obsession these takes top marks. Thank you for the notification of the new vid!
Thanks so much, I hope you enjoy it! I love the emblem carried by these Phantoms, it's so unique.
@@IrisAviation91 see that’s exactly what I mean! The tail flash the colors. The Red Cross. Yes Mate ! it’s like kinda old School mid evil looking and I love the heritage of that flight that whole story of the Falklands is something I can get lost down the rabbit 🐇 🕳!!!!
@@yanktornado5121 I absolutley adore the FGR with the white tail and red cross - gives the vibe of going on another crusade to defend the Falklands!
Yeah! Faith, Hope, Charity & Desperation.
Yes I remember that too, why I always thought there were four of them.
Great footage there👍🏼
Nice vid. Was groundcrew on 23sqn at RAF Stanley from Dec 85 to April 86. I was on the rear party for the move up to MPA. One of our jobs was smashing up the mess piano with a sledgehammer!
Wow, smashing up that mess piano must've been some great fun!
Hi there, really good video and informative many thanks 🇬🇧👍
No problemo, thanks!
Love the Phantom no matter where they served!
Went down August 82 on the North Sea Ferry ship Norland from the Ascension Islands took us 10 days. Our gear started arriving around mid September as we started the build up for the first Tomb to arrive. I was in the SUU Gun Bay setting it and part of the Bomb Dump or ESA. Was there when 29 loaded the first plane and took off 17th Oct. We stayed on the Rangatira the only ship in the fleet to fart, it bloody stank, every 3 weeks we had to go to sea and off load the chemical waste.
You didn't mention the fact that the F4s became 1435 Flight. This was formed for the defence of Malta in 1942, this is why the F4s carry the Maltese Cross on the fin. I served in the Falklands from Sep 91 to Jan 92. Some F4s carried the names carried by the famous Malta Gladiators, Faith Hope and Charity
They added 'Desperation'.
@@doddsy2978 Hi Ian. Correct. I have a pic of me in the cockpit. I was MT and spent 4 months on ASMT (Tanker Pool) at Mount Pleasant. Faith crashed into the sea killing both crew I think in October 91 and was replaced by Faith 2
Just a quick note: the deployment of FGR2s to the Falklands were the reason for the existence of the "last British Phantoms" the Phantom F.3
That is true. The F4Js of 74 (Tigers) at Wattisham.
There is no aircraft as the Phantom F3
@@ericjones3851 Taken from spare USN stocks as a replacement for the F4's sent down south - in todays speak this would be called a UOR.
@Lee thanks for replying, my memory is fading, I was based on a unit that tested all the UK Phantom variants and I just cannot recall the F3 version. The USN F4J were purchased towards the end I recall and we called thr F4J the F4J, 74 Sqn I recall, which later took the remains of the FGR Mk2,. I was later on 23 Sqn when we took the number plate from the Falklands based 23 Sqn. As I say the memory fades.
@@ericjones3851 they were called that (Nowt else to call em!). They were, in fact F4Js from the USN and were a very different beast. They were stationed at Wattisham on 74(F) Sqn
Imagine if these planes were there before the Falklands War; things might have been more different. Still I can imagine the RAF Phantom pilots being 'primed and ready to kick ass' on the Falklands.
Haha yeah, Phantoms vs A-4s and Mirages - and with a good PD radar and Skyflashes
If the Thatcher government had taken the correct action (as had the Callaghan government a couple of years before in practically identical circumstances ) then war wouldn't have been necessary at all. A sad unnecessary loss of life for political gain. I served from 78 to 2003 and one gets to learn these things. It's a shame.
Or even if the Royal Navy still had the Ark Royal with its compliment of Phantoms and Buccaneers. It would’ve been a very different story.
EXCELLENT EPISODE.. I WISH MORE .. & WISH YOU SUCCESS N MILLION LIKE 👍
Thanks man
Thanks for this one 😂👍
I was in the Falklands with the F4s based at Stanley with GR3 Harriers in '82/83
Went down South on my first detachment on the Rangatira.
Was based at Stanley in 83 with the F4s worked in the ADOC at Stanley Airport
Subsequently, the flight's Phantoms were replaced when four Panavia Tornado F3 arrived in the Falklands in July 1992.think you got this wrong as I was based at Wattisham during these sad days when the F4s were scrapped
Toward the end Archie is referred to as a Sqn Ldr which I didn't know. He was an Flt Lt when I worked with him on 74(F) F4J and FGR2, and a great lad. A fellow Jock.
R.A.F. Phantom FGR.2’s were the F-4M variant, the F-4K was the older Phantom FG.1 which had originally been ordered for the Royal Navy.
Did 4 months on 1435 flight back in ´89. Last flight out of MPA before Xmas (23 Dec). Still wasn´t relaxed until we went wheels up from Ascension, though!
Oh cool I didn’t know the Harriers played aggressor roles to the tooms!
Beautiful aircraft! I'm gutted that 74 Sqn didn't accidentally abandon one in my front garden once they'd finished using them! My neighbours would have got used to the slightly overhanging nose / tail in time I'm sure......
I was at Port Stanley 1984/5 on Hercdet - Phandet were at the end of the runway !
Served in the Falklands from Sep 91 to Jan 92. On Tanker Pool. Refueled all the aircraft including the F4s. This was at RAF Mount Pleasant. F4s were on 1435 Flt. This was the flight formed in Malta during WW2 to defend the Island. I think by 91 only 5 jets remained as i remember. Four were named Faith Hope Charity after the Malta Gladiators and the fourth Desperation. Faith crashed in to the Sea, i think in Nov 91 killing both crew members. Another F4 became Faith 2.
Nice vid! would love to see a video on the Nimrod's in the Falklands.
Yeah one day!
I've heard the 55 knot cross wind landing on the tin strip story a few times from my dad. Apparently that wasn't the worst bit of the flight though, he thought that was having to refuel from the herc at 500 feet due to complete lack of visibility.
Wow, blind mid air refuelling from a Herc - now that's scary...
there is something so beautiful about the RAF F4s, they just something that the US dont have and idk what it is
Some interesting facts which are not normally known about post Falklands war.
Thanks, I had a lot of fun finding them out!
PSA. I sent so many guys down there I can't count them and I managed to avoid a tour myself, although I did do a 2 week stint in Ascension on a fishing trip. 1435, I think, is still the flight that protects PSA with Typhoons.
Nice
Thanks
The Rangatira was an ex New Zealand Ferry that sailed between Christchurch and Wellington late 1960s and to mid 1970s. translation of Rangatira is High Bourn.
“Fiery Cross North”……..does anyone remember what I’m talking about? I was on the FI in 88 at Mare Harbour.
Enjoyed the video mate, just a bit of info for you, I was on 1435Flt between Jan and May 1989 and we still had FGR2's, I don't think the F3's took over until the 1990's!
1992 to be precise!🤣
Wow, amazing to see some real aircrew watch my videos! I should've checked the F.3s in the Falklands, didn't realise they came down in 1992!
@@IrisAviation91 Sorry to disappoint, but I worked for a living! Ground crew!! 🤣😂
True. I was at Byron Heights in 1991 and the Phantoms were still present.
I was on duty the day the F3's arrived, it was around May/June 1992, and what a day it was, with so much air activity. Even the Argentines put up a few planes that day, and the F4's went to see 'em off. I recall how the F3's and F4's competed to do the lowest level fiery cross, a great sight!
Typical forces humour. f there's a chance to play around they'll take bit before you can blink. Thank you for this great video. Even better that you concluded with two very good stories.
I remember dropping half a phantom in a big hole up by 78 Sqn in 93.
Winston Churchill said the cost of freedom is constant vigilance... but we have forgotten those golden words. People never change we must remember that. it should be taught in School. Peace. or we could convert that to say the COST OF PEACE IS CONSTANT VIGILANCE then we would not have had the Gulf war or the Ukrainian war. that should also be the current watchword!
Thank you British for the SENTRY E3. ´s
We still need them at least for a few years :) but...
@@IrisAviation91 Yes I know. But kelpers are very happy at the Falklands.
@@IrisAviation91 Argentinians are very upset
4:48 - sure it’s been pointed out before but I was groundcrew for the 1435 Flt F4’s in 1990 so your statement of them being replaced in 1988 by F3 is incorrect.
You didn't mention about the tragedy of XV484 both pilot and navigator lost, bad loss due to low cloud, I built a 1/48 scale model to pay my respects for their loss. Found info I have made adjustments to number, accident was 9 miles NE of Goose Green, sad loss there.
Quick one, it isn't "St Ey-thun". It's an "ah" sound, more like "St Ah-thn".
More accel and less smoke. However, at FL 3000, they had trouble lighting the reheat.
Did this reheat problem occur at higher altitudes?
@@IrisAviation91, should have added +.
Typhoons are doing the same job now!
Does the RAF number its squadrons in sequence, or does it randomly create squadron numbers.? ie if there is 633 Squadron, are there also a 632 and 631 squadrons?
Back when europe was at war with eachother, we pretty much just spammed the shit out of RAF recruitment. it is technically in order, yes but also a lot of them got decommissioned. these spots never get filled.
You have to remember that the RAF was formed from the amalgamation of the RFC and the RNAS. The lowere squadrons ( this is Verrrry loose, BTW!) were originally RFC fighters, the 100 series were RFC bombers, the 200 series were maritime (probs RNAS (not sure)), the 600s were Aux Air Force and the 800s are RN. Well this was roughly how it works. The sqns disband and are reformed and there is a lot of traditions involved (or - as I was told once - The RAF does not have traditions, it has habits and not particularly good ones at that!) and their colour (presented after 20 or 25 years service) are layed up and can be re-issued.
Thanks to Phantom Finale by Manners for most of the footage.
The video was good but to give u some notes.
The Phantom came to the Royal Navy first as the F-4K Which was the FG. 1
They stayed with the navy till replaced and given to the RAF till they retired in 1991
The F-4M was the FGR.2 they were new to the RAF and stayed in service till 1992
The video is excellent but some was of 56 and 74 which isn't to do with the Falklands.
The Phantom stayed in the Falklands under 1435flt till 1992 and was replaced by the tornado
The airframes were changed over with 4 always being there
All 3 were scrapped except XV409 which was put on gate duties till scrapped recently and its cockpit is saved for a Musuem to eventually rise on the island
Thanks for the info mate, I should've mentioned that FG.1s were given to the RAF, and retired with the FGR.2 in 1992. The other info is great as well!
Am i right in saying the Phantoms never left the Falklands - a pit was dug and their remains were buried ?.
@@paultanton4307 One was left as a gate Guard, but it had to be scrapped as it rotted away. Also the RAF did get a Squadron of FG Mk 1's that were ordered by the Navy, but never really used by them after the plans to upgrade HMS Eagle to operate the type were cancelled. 43 Squadron operated the FG Mk 1 as new aircraft.
The nose and cockpit of XV409 is at Newark Air Museum at the moment.
RAF Phantoms we’re not active in theatre during the war.
I was told these Js would meet anything and escort aircraft into Stanley. No matter who you were , a J or 2 would meet you and ride you in!
Certainly! Margret Thatcher visited the falklands and was guided in by Phantoms - who had to leave half way through to intercept an Electra!
I’ve been stufyiup on all the nose art painted on the Tornados for Op. Telic. That would be interesting 🤔 you know maybe I ought to dedicate my channel to schemes! I have not seen it really done proper yet! I’m getting ideas as we speak to eachother. I just don’t know where to go with my channel. I’ll get it together though in the next few months I’ll start posting content. I’m learning. Watching. And listening to any advice. Any stories like Thatcher and the Phantoms I love that stuff. Your channel is one I actually anticipate the new vids and and kind of depressing when they end cause I don’t want to stop watching this footage and learning all I can! 🙏🏼
what about those FGR.2 lost? how did that happened?
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You state that the first RAF Phantoms were deployed to the Falklands islands in May 1982. They were deployed to Ascension island in an air defence role IIRC from April 1982, but the conflict did not end until mid June 1982 so I don't think they relieved the Harriers until the July and that was after the RE had to extend the runway at Port Stanley to accommodate them.
Phantoms didn't get there until 17th October 1982. Sea Harriers fro HMS Illustrious were the main fighter cover between HMS Invincible departing in late August and the phantoms getting there. 29 Squadron were first, followed by 23 Squadron. 23 Squadron drew down in size and then became 1435 Flight in the back end of October 1988 (I got down there a week before 23 disbanded).
I was going to point out that it is Ascension Island not the Ascension Islands, there is only one island there. I was part of 29 Squadron and went out to Ascension on 24 May 1982 with less than half the squadron and we only had two aircraft. They were already grey before 1982, the only extra grey paint was the layer put over the squadron markings. On the day we heard of the surrender we went out to the aircraft with paper towels and MEK and cleaned this layer off the squadron badges. We came back to the UK after about 2 months then another month later returned to Ascension for another 10 weeks returning to the UK again on 5 November 1982. When I was on Ascension for the second stint more of the squadron came through on their way to the Falkland Islands and suffered a very long flight in a C130. 15 hours from UK to Ascension (short stops at Dakar and Ascension for refuelling only), 13 hours to the Falklands, where they could not land due to the weather so 13 hours back to Ascension. They were given 48 hours to recover before they went back to the Falklands. There are 50 people (aircrew and groundcrew) in the detachment photo taken in June 1982
My elder brother Sean (JT Groundcrew)went down there with 29 Squadron in '82. He was well pissed off as he suffered 3 winters (Falklands posting being the middle winter) on the trot IIRC and took some amazing pics of the Falklands. He and a few of the lads went on a mental 18-30 when they returned to civilisation. I always remember the BFPO being 666
And if constant defence cuts had not scrapped our fixed wing carriers they could have been a massive boost to the air cover during the war!
Next do Vulcans in the Falklands war pls pls
Welp it's nice to know that the fgr.2 got aim-9 L's
29 Sqn aircraft flew from Ascension Island were they were based during the war
So why was a Senior RAF officer on the Argie C-130? What am I missing?
I believe he was training the argentine pilots or something, I'm not entirley sure. Maybe looking over the crew or to help with the language barrier when entering the Falklands Inner Conservation Zone.
Hope you had the permission of the owner for most of this video. I've had imagery wrongly taken so I don't put my fighter stuff up any more.
That may be my biggest fear - sorry to hear about your videos
The RAF used second hand F4Js in the Falklands but with British modifications
Saint Athan as in a-than not A-than with a soft 'a'....it's actually Sant Tathan (again soft 'a' not hard 'A').
Hold on what there was an RAF officer on a argie C130?
I believe he was training the argentine pilots or something, I'm not entirley sure. Maybe looking over the crew or to help with the language barrier when entering the Falklands Inner Conservation Zone.
The Phantom didn't have a port stabilator ripped off, it had a left stabilator ripped off. As a naval aircraft the aircraft had a left and right in order to not cause misunderstandings when on a ship. References to port and starboard were used for ship locations and left and right for aircraft locations. All the documentation for the aircraft was left and right not port and starboard.
It was an RAF jet and we do sometimes use port and stbd.
Sending 10 Phathoms AFTER the Agries invaded was a bit late mate.
So how would the F4s have operated without a suitable runway or aircraft carrier? That's why Harriers went down to fight the war.
Ok you mencione the FGR and FG but the last phantom in the Falklands was an F-4S on lease from USN surplus because of the problems with the Tornado F2/F3 program, and the first tornado there was an F2 that when the F3 came out was leased to the Italian air force to replace the F-104S, and than was replaced by F-16A ADF from USAF an USANG surplus, returning the tornados to RAF and then sold to Saudi arabia after upgraded to F3 level and to the use of the AMRAAM/ASRAAM, But there was no mention to the F-4S and that is a petty.
RAF used USN F-4Js not S, thus the name F-4J (UK) is given to them.
Very true sorry for my error@@IrisAviation91
I wish our Government would put as much effort into protecting our home borders against illegal entry.
Creo que en las Malvinas, despues de la guerra , una salida de alerta y rapida por una alerta, provocada por argentina les hizo perder un avion, en el aerodromo militar de púerto argentino malvinas
…and it’s now F,H,C and D 👍
None of this has been on mainstream news?
You have made a small error in your vid, though I still enjoyed it. The F4K was a naval aircraft that was acquired by the RAF when the Navy had finished with them. There were several differences between the marks. The F4K had the naval style of nose leg which had two torque links and two oleos (the shiney hydraulic cylinder bit that you see on undercarriage legs of aircraft). One of these really was hydraulic and was used to raise the nose of the A/c and, therefore the angle of attack of the mainplane, to assist in take off utilising a catapult. The F4M (RAF mark) was devoid of this second bit and had a dumb nose leg with a simple oleo. The F4K had powered wingfold and the wings unlocked and folded under the command of a control. the reverse was also true. The F4M relyed on 'Mandraulics' and once the outer section was manually unlocked (with a speedy brace, if memory serves), it was lifted up or down by the muscles of men/persons (to be PC). Now, very roughly and as far as I remember, the K versions found themselves on Nos 43 - The Fighting Cocks and 111 - The Tremblers North of the border at RAF Leuchars the other stations, Wattisham, Coningsby, RAF Germany and so on, were the homes of the M version with Sqn Nos: 23 - Red Eagles and 56 - Firebirds to name a couple.
St Athen (pronounced as in Apple as opposed to Acre) or at least that is what my father called it when he was posted there and what I called it when I went there to learn to drive, is where we sent the cabs for their Major Servicing (again, if memory serves, this was over forty years ago). This would tie in with 29's aircraft reporting there before making the protracted trip 'Down South'.
Anyway, keep up the good work.
Sorry for the late response - I missed your message! I forgot to mention how the FG.1s were adopted by the RAF, much like the Navy's S.2C/D Buccaneers. I certainly didn't know about the 'Mandraulics' on the F4M, I didn't realise they couldn't change wing fold from within the cockpit!
For the St.Athan, I didn't realised you were meant to say it like Athens, thank you very much!
@@IrisAviation91 Manual wing folding. That was fun on a wet and windy day, three people on the wing to hold it vertically so that the lock could be put on or taken off and other three on the ground to push it up or take the weight as it was lowered.
@@martinconnelly1473 Times like that when you would really have dreamt of maintaining a naval Phantom I'm sure!
@@martinconnelly1473 Yup! Been there,I even have the T-shirt.
@@IrisAviation91 Ah! The Bucc! Thanks, Mountbatten (spit!) He used to go around with a number of model Buccs in a briefcase, pull them out, place them on a table and say, "You can buy this many Buccaneers for the price of a single TSR2!" In doing so, he killed off any potential purchases of the TSR2, particularly exports (which would have been ahead of it s time until at least the Tornado, they say!). That caused the TSR2 to be cancelled and the companies invovled to begin to fail. The Govt forced them to merge, ultimately becoming BAe. The trouble is, this forced the upcoming projects of the constituant companies to compete for limited shop floor space and funds. This ultimately destroyed the British aviation industry which was, at the time, the best in the World. Destroyed by the nepotistic git, Mountbatten (spit!). I could praise... Nope! I shall not go there.
Hang on, why was a "senior RAF officer" on the Argentine C130?
Living near the base it’s pronounced ‘Saint Athan ‘ using ‘ahh for apple ‘ for both ‘a’s in the name rather than the ‘ay’ you chose to sound for both
you said the tooms were removed in 1988 NO i did a det on the tooms in 1991
FUNNY C 130 STORY 👍
English subtitles would really help.
ok or you could study more english
MIG-21, the Phantom killer!! Remember Viet Nam!!!!
A bit disingenuous to say Falklands War Phantom in the title. They never flew in the south Atlantic during the conflict.
But it's still to do with the Falklands war, the reason as to why they're there in the first place.
Please tell me how many innocent people have been killed by the damn phantoms
You are showing German F4s because?
Where in the video does it show a German F4?
@@IrisAviation91, you REALLY expect me to watch it again? There’s deffo a German F4 in your video.
@@johnnunn8688 Yes, I don't remember putting in a German F-4F or ICE, maybe by accident I don't know.
They're not German. RAF Flight 1435 has a tradition of sporting a Maltese Cross on a White fin as a symbol of their defense of Malta in 1940. Remember the Gloster Gladiators called Faith, Hope and Charity? That was the Hal Far Fighter Flight 1435. Luftwaffe F-4Fs have Iron Crosses on the wings and a small Yellow/Red/Black tricolor as a fin flash.
Pedantic a little...?
Argentine Air Force only has 15 serviceable combat aircraft currently.
I was chatting to a young lady at Mount Pleasant when a guy pushed in saying"Hi I'm a phantom pilot! "
"Oh good" she said, "Make like a phantom, f'ing disappear!"
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