Most DARING mission flown on Night ONE | RAF TORNADO GR.1
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- This long-awaited video explains the role of the Panavia Tornado GR.1 in the 1991 Gulf War, highlighting it's role leading to the successes in the first parts of the war as a key element of Operation Granby. Using the JP233 Runway Denial system, the Tornados cut off Iraqi aircraft from their runways, helping to ground the IrAF. Later in the war, the Tornados went up to medium altitudes with Buccaneers, whose Pave Spike pods helping to guide the Tornado's LGBs to target.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:55 - Cold War Interdictor
1:10 - Runway Busting
2:32 - Other Ordinance
3:58 - Going to War
5:36 - Tactics
6:54 - Muharraq's Wave
8:53 - Attack Run
9:44 - Dhahran's Wave
10:47 - Tabuk's wave
11:11 - Similar Attacks
11:29 - Lofting
11:53 - Tornado Down
12:24 - More Attacks
14:35 - Mig or SAM?
15:09 - Laser Accuracy
16:36 - Ending the War
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My Dad is in this video at 16:40 as a member of the groundcrew. He served on 17 Sqn at Bahrain. I went on to serve as groundcrew on Tornado GR4 for 13 years. Great video. Thanks.
The footage of the Tonka will forever be symbolic with the first Gulf War. What an amazing machine
A very good friend of mine led the Tornado force in Op Granby. Jerry Witts, he was Wing Commander at the time, but retired as an Air Commodore. Great guy and much missed, his Tonka was called Luscious Lizzie.
Rest easy, Jezzer
great video, brings back Granby memories for me. Just one point to the narrator, there is a F in Lieutenant, we're not in the U.S!
Fabulous aircraft with equally amazing air and ground crew. My sincerest thanks and respect to all who have served.
I was GR1 for 7 years , i was a Leckie plus and conventional plus Nuc systems ! It was a very hard aircaft to work , the propulsion techs known as sooties , they worked v hard , the Flight crews were a good bunch , it took a lot of work from uz tecies to launch the Aircraft , i have great memories from this period !
I really enjoyed watching this, I am currently reading, Tornado eye of the storm by John Nichol. The film components it nicely. I particularly enjoyed the cockpit audio, really shows that the guys who flew in the conflict had just the same bravery as previous generations.
Thanks a lot, very touching book. I was very happy to find the cockpit audio, adds so much atmosphere.
Thanks for compiling and sharing ... from an ex-Tonka Liney at Tabuk during this time.
Awesome video. Keep them coming! Big thanks from Western Australia
Thanks so much, glad to see some viewers from down under!
12:03 OMG I still remember seeing that image from a Reader's Digest issue. That thing never left me even when I was so young.
I can easily picture it in my head - not many other photos I use from my videos stay ingrained in my memory, such a stunning piece.
This machine looks a fuckin animal in the air.
Even better looking when its got all that fire power hanging off it, and it tilts to the side showing its quality.
And sounds exactly the same.... .
What a shame its come of age, but had the delight of seeing this in the air.
Long story short, i was a youngster living in kent. Heard this " out of this world " noise outside.
Run outside thinking rodger ramjet had come to life.
Seconds later, these 2 badboys came flying bk over, and proper low( i mean low low).
Shit the life right out of me and set every car and house alarm off , which at the time had an alarm.💯💥
Pure beauty.
( around 1987/ 1990) 17:47
Thank you. Great presentation.
Other cracking video bud, slowly trying to get all of your videos watched, keep them coming 👍🇬🇧
#TONKA says it all ! so many of my classmates at Oakham had dads flying from RAF Cottesmore . . . whilst they flew over our heads during lessons. THE 80's European take on the F-15. ALL of them sporting the Marconi tail sensors…
Love it mate, good covering of interesting topics.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks a lot!
Great. Factual. Entertaining. Excellent footage.
Well done! Thank you! Subscribed!
I tried to get one of these JP233 cases to build a streamliner car in the mid 1990s for an eco marathon but was told their secret and still on the "book" though it would be a brave CO who asked a pilot to use one as they have to fly straight, low and slow over a runway bristling with weapons - We used a de- commissioned Sea Eagle anti-ship missile in the end
Good video. Full respect to all coalition forces....
These crews did an amazing job at low level, just read Nicholls book . My son worked on these aircraft , he loved them.
Love the videos. Could you perhaps do something on the sea kings or other routery wing aircraft of Granby?
Certainly! In fact, I plan to release both Lynx and Sea King videos in the following weeks
@@IrisAviation91 awesome.
@@IrisAviation91 Thanks. I was out there on 845 NACS
Great vid what a flashenshow :)
13:32 : This is RAF not USAF. LEFTENANT not LOOTENANT.
Not to mention 'Eye-rack' as the location and the apparent use of 'mistles'.
Can see a lot of the video footage is from 16 SQ from Larbruch we wisited them in 1991 after the war, still got the VHS tapes from their missions. We are 730 SQ RDAF
F 16 Nice video from Grandby Operations 👍
Nice pic of Debbie there, possibly with my old mate Paddy Teakle in the back seat.
Brilliant,
SEAD isn't perfect, but I wouldn't leave home without it! With the exception of jamming tracking and ranging radars, there isn't much SEAD can do about massive amounts of AAA short of taking out individual guns, and that would be time consuming, thereby defeating your purpose of getting in and out quickly! The Brits (God love'em) went in LOW and FAST and did their country proud!
An extremely dangerous mission of which was always going to cause attrition. The RAF landed some huge blows for the coalition forces.
the specific jet doing its specific job with its dedicated weapon, not faring so well against a second rate adversary, big Kudos to the crews for trying, before sense pushed up altitude not so much adrenalin or good vids though. Thanks for the video and information.
Superb narrative and visuals. Really good job, enjoyed it very much, thank you. Good luck with your site. RAF did their country proud.
Well done. I'm hoping that we can get an official Tonka for DCS. I started a FB group about it
your dreams have come true
@@captainbutter1500 Mine and the dreams of many. Now for a 1+ year wait 😅
@@calvinmulraine736 more like 3 🤣
@@havinganap I'd go as far as 2. No way they'd announce their first project that far out, that's Razbam's SOP lol.
@@calvinmulraine736 take a look at the models they've shown off, its VERY early dev, its gonna be 3+ years.
Another awesome video man! Do you have any plans for what to cover next?
Cheers, maybe a Falklands special ;)
@@IrisAviation91 Would love to see a Falklands episode, maybe come up and visit XM597 in Edinburgh? ;)))
@@IrisAviation91 I can't wait
@@jafon9 Haha, maybe one day
Good fun stuff, but you seem a bit mixed up with how JP233 worked. There were 2 types of munition, the cratering bomblet and the mine. The cratering weapon had 2 charges integrated together so that a shaped charge punched a small hole in the runway surface and carried the second charge underneath. The second charge then detonated to heave up the surface, making it unuseable. The mines then landed in amongst the resulting rubble, either going off at random times after the raid or when tipped over. Either way they would make the life of a repair crew quite uncomfortable as they also included a shaped charge that could easily puncture a bulldozer blade and destroy the vehicle as well as being lethal to personnel. The problem in GRANBY was that the 233 had been developed to destroy Soviet and East German runways. Much was known about their construction and in fact a replica was built at West Freugh range specifically to test JP233. Unfortunately the Iraqis built their runways differently and much of the 'heave' charge was dissipated in the sandy sub-structure so that the effect was not as good as expected. Of course this became moot when the Iraqis effectively grounded their airforce in the face of attrition by Allies fighters.
Why would you hear three thumps when the empty 233s were released? JP233 was an enormous thing over 20 feet long and they only carried 2 weapons, side by side under the fuselage.
The Peters and Nichol shot-down was not quite as described. There was a bit of an issue with the weapon delivery mode and in dealing with it they had actually reached significant altitude over the airfield with the bombs still on board. They then got back down to low level and turned to egress, at which point the missile hit. That's why they landed miles from the target.
There is no evidence that any GR1 was shot down by a Mig during Granby, certainly no Recce jets were lost at all. A GR1 was shot down on 19 Jan 91 but that was down to a SAM and both crew escaped; they are likely available for interview if you can track them down. GR1 ZA467 was lost on 22 Jan but the other guys in the formation testified to the Board of Inquiry that they flew into the ground. It's not a question of likelihood; the facts are out there! The iraqi pilot was spinning a line.
I don't think 'complacency' had much to do with the loss of 717 on 14 Feb, and I'm sure the family of the dead nav Flt Lt Steve Hicks would not be happy with you saying that, especially as he would have been running the countermeasures. They were bracketed by a pair of SA-2 SAMs and sometimes the dice fall the wrong way.
Small correction. The replica was built at Porton Down, west freugh was only used for soft target testing.
@@nedkelly9645 I'm not convinced, firstly because I'm not aware there has ever been an air weapons range at Porton but also from having spent many hours at The Freugh, spoken to the range staff about the trials and viewed the test site, and having been briefed on the trial during my GD ASC in 1986, which included both WF and Hunting Engineering. I can't see any evidence of a simulated Soviet runway/taxiway on the overheads of the Porton area whereas the W Freugh site is still there (IVO 54.848N, 004.906W). As far as I can discover the first JP233 live trial was flown at West Freugh, U.K in Feb 82, with GR1 ZA354. The first RAF crew release was a couple of years later at the Eglin ranges in Florida. But if I'm wrong, then I'm open to argument.
@@timgosling6189 It wasn't an operational runway, simply a pad built to the spec of the Soviet runways. It was many moons ago, I was probably the youngest trials engineer on the project. There won't be many at either site now that were there at the time.
@@nedkelly9645 That's what I was looking for; sounds exactly what they built at The Freugh, where the hard standing and 2 strips of runway/taxiway are still visible. Out of interest, what sort of 'soft targets' do you remember being used? Still confused because all the live weapons ranges in the Boscombe area were North of the A303, not South and certainly not near the Chemical wpns labs.
@@timgosling6189At portion there wasn't any live firing as such, the cratering munitions were dropped off a rig. Don't recall any live drops at the freight, but it was a long time ago 😁
Our trusty tornado 😊
👍👍🔥🔥 🇬🇧🇬🇧 thank you
Thank you for a great video. I cannot imagine the balls needed to go in that low, at night, and thrusting automation. I heard some rumors though taht the Tornados didn't like the hot climate a lot and that it really affected them badly. You know if that was true? I know about the Jags, but never head the Tornados suffered too bad from the heat (As any plane would ofc)
There are a few news stations going around the Gulf during the workup, talking to the RAF crews. I think it was more the crews adapting to the climate, with some issues with the aircraft due to the heat.
It's just tale... Saudi Arabia are still flying the ADV and also the GR4...... Yes they went U/S but so did the Jags, Buccs and other RAF aircraft.....
LEF tenant by the way
I did some of my flying training with Kieran Duffy, he was a nice guy.
1:49 JP-233 is was bug and brought a lot of drag.
In French doctrine, BAP-100 or Durandal could be used together with BLG-66 IDZ, the later being a CBU dispersing randomly delayed sub-munitions to also delay the repair.
Off course, anti-runway munitions and BLG-66 IDZ would not be deployed by the same aircraft, but France didn't used fighters as big as the Tornado 😅
are you planning on doing Iraqi aircraft and is there even enough footage+stories to make a video for them? I'd like to hear what it was like to be rocking around in the 23 against the coalition or maybe a video about the iraqi mirage F1s that I assume tried to use the giraffe tactics from the Iran-Iraq war.
I'm looking to do a few Iraqi-perspective videos. I found a video of them shooting down a Walleye I, and I think I can reverse the stories from coalition aircraft to Iraqi perspective.
@@IrisAviation91 very nice, looking forward to it! I'm sharing the channel around as much as I can since you deserve more attention.
Absolutely love the Tornado, but the Buccaneer is up there with the EEL as my favourite jets ever built! As for props, Mosquito all day long!
9:00 cool DCS footage
I saw DCS jets and hit like. 👍
PLEASE I WANT MUCH VIDIOSE LIKE THEESE . WISH YOU SUCCESS 👍
Thank you so much!
the DCS soundtrack is fire yo
16:00 Tracey, one of the Viz Fat Slags 😂
It seems like the Tornado Squadrons did the hard missions.
They were hard, but others were fighting hard missions also. Daring certainly.
The Buccaneers certainly did there bit too
WHo narrated this? We have never had Flight LOOTENANTS in the RAF, they would be American. We have Flight LEFT-TENANTS in the RAF despite the spelling of the word.
Have 5 1/48 Tornado models to build.❤
My brother in law flew in these missions.
Love-hate relationship, but mostly love. Good times…
Methinks the Tonka is the best multi-role aircraft ever built, goes to show what can be achieved when there is co-operation with our European cousins.
The GR was a good ground attack aircraft, but very limited in its air to air ability. The interceptor (eg F.3) variant was only really good at exactly that. Even as a dogfighter it wasn't particularly impressive. The Typhoon is probably just as capable in most roles, and definitely more capable in a few.
It was important, yes. But imho sacrificed to make sure F-15E Strike Eagles could do their job killing mobile scud missile locations. At the Time Tornados were state of the art but didnt have any support aircraft or a strike package format without the support of the U.S Airforce on every mission and it was designed to operate to not do so but be independant in any attack mode..
Too many were lost, and later they went to medium height bombing along with laser guidance by aircraft like the Buccaneer basically moved into a side track to survive and in effect sit out the war..
What game is used at 8:07?
"Eye rack"??😂
The sad thing is that, yet again, the senior ranks initially ignored the obvious danger of low level attacks, when smart weapons were available but initially ignored. The second attack, which saw the two Johns shot down, was even in daylight, which was plainly idiotic. Senior ranks never seem to learn from history, ever. JP233 wasn't even that effective against desert constructed runways and taxiways.
Infamous 617 squadron? Do you know what infamous means? Where is eye-rak? Flight lootenant?
The exact comment that ocurred to me as well.
We never lost a recce tornado. I was there
I saw one of the 2 Sqn jets in early on after they arrived and the pelot (a stroppy Sqn ldr) went off on a real rant because he told me to remove the tapes, I was 31 Sqn bombers "Tapes, what tapes" said I lol. A real prat he was thats for sure
The Iraqi pilot who shut downed the Tornado with his MiG-29 was called Captain Jameel Sayhood, he was later was downed by USAF F-15
Why did the tornado not evade the attack?
@@ronaldrt I think it was very close range and the shot was with IR missile so no RWR was activated
@@ronaldrt Because the story was a lie.
The Tornado was shot down a few days later by SAM. It was a publicity stunt from the Iraqi side.
MAY BY BOTH ARE MUCH LIKELY MIG 29 OR SAM ... HOW ABOUT THE F 3 TORNADO DID IT HAD DOG FIGHR WITH IRAQI MIRAGE OR MIGS
The Tornado F.3 was placed further back performing rearward Combat Air Patrols (CAP). USAF F15Cs would be the most common aircraft doing more aggressive CAPs, engaging Iraqi aircraft. The Tornado F.3 also lacked modern IFF (Identification Friend from Foe), so they were placed further back to protect C2 platforms, like the E3 Sentry.
It's Eerak NOT Eyerak and Flight Left-tennant NOT LOO-Tennant. We are BRITISH, NOT SPAMS!!
This the funniest comment on my channel so far
What's with the I-raq motif? You don't sound American? Just for reference, it's not I-ran or A-rab either.
Great video , but could you attempt to remove the annoying soundtrack over the Pilot/Nav comms section? could hardly pick out anything being said.
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Are You a Gammon?
Minute 14:39 you say a GR!A was shot down - we did not lose any GR1As during the war.
Sorry I meant GR.1B if I remember correctly, the Recce one.
@@IrisAviation91 The recce version was the GR1A - we didn't lose any recce aircraft - I finished the war with the same 6 aircraft I started with. I'm only commenting for accuracy.
I concur. We didn't lose any. Counted them out and fixed 'em when they came back
The Tornado,the English multi role version of the F-14 Tomcat,"BADASS PLANE TO THIS DAY"
Tornado F3 sucked at air defense 😂
No chance within visual range against any real fighter...
@@JoJo-vm8vk Was it designed for that though? Not really. BVR, it was very capable supposedly. Was it not designed to patrol over the North sea, or to be up in a group engaging incoming enemy aircraft from BVR? At which jobs it was capable. So it could do what it was designed for well enough. Seems like a bit more of a stopgap measure, waiting for the Typhoon regardless, whether or not that was the original intention, or equally likely to avoid having to buy a large quantity of American aircraft to replace the Phantoms and Lightnings, until a suitable British involved aircraft appeared. But yeah, it was not as good a fighter as the Tornado GRs were bombers regardless, but its kind of unfair to complain about something it wasn't exactly designed for, though that isn't to say that the F3 didn't have problems in general, at least for part of its service life. I'm just going of what sources I remember(Books, Internet, Interviews) so maybe you know something I don't.
@@JoJo-vm8vkBecause it wasn't a fighter 😂
It was not an English version of anything American! It was a European consortium aircraft designed from the ground up.
Not English, not an interceptor. This had a similar role to the F-111, not the Tomcat.
Why was 617 Squadron "infamous?"
Because American English confuses “infamous” with “famous”, “inflammable” with “flammable”, etc.
God the one jet I want to see added to war thunder
It's here 😉, but it is pretty sh*t
Flashion ?? You said it twice!!.. it is fashion
I think the tornado mentioned was shot down by a Foxbat.
It was a flogger..
@@wor53lg50 I still insist it was a Foxbat, from what I remember.
It was a SAM.
The Story from Iraq had the day wrong. It's not something that could be faked when there were reporters on the airbases.
The story from Iraq also suggests the Tornado pilots saw them, there's no first hand testemony where that's even a possibility.
Read Tornado, by John Nichol. It covers GR1s role and missions in Iraq comprehensivly with passeges from the surviving crew members. There was no Tornados lost to enemy air action.
@@mrflibble9783 could be , as the tornados sorties were flown by daytime.
@@frederickastorgav7991 The low level missions were nearly all at night.
Daylight raids come when they started hitting targets at medium height (20,000 feet)
At the time, the rather large Iraqi airforce were hardly flying any sorties and getting destroyed on the ground, and where they did fly were were often quickly getting shot down from strong CAP pressance. The story was invented as a propergander peice to give to present them as something other than totally ineffective.
TTID
What the hell is an eye rack ??
Presumably a storage device for people with glass eyes.
That's good, however.
I thought the tornado was shot down by the mig25. The only mig29s that tried to fight anything were slapped down by f15s
It was shot down by a SAM.
The story from Iraq was teh wrong day, and said they were spotted by the crew. No crew reported anything remotely plausable.
SAM city lol,
Such a crazy footage of mig-29, where did u got that ???? they got colour cameras? impressive!!!!
Of course they weren't using Go-Pros... The footage is from DCS
What’s not really mentioned is the fact. The the RAF aircraft “ tornadoes “ were “ given a risky mission. And truth. The didn’t perform well . Ok if said it out loud. The RAF in trying to get a Toe into the operation promised miracles. Gave the crews Planes etc who has been drinking beer in WEST GERMANY . With every couple of years tanks churning up the west German farmers fields. Which they got large sums for. The RAF.couldn’t afford large scale ops. Without the Common wealth Britain is only ( at the time ) 60million people . Supporting a silly large military. . ( I remember myself as a Soldier given a choice retire Early and be given a decent pay off. Or re’inlist . For a 17% wage cut and horrible pension Offers. . And suddenly It’s the GULF WAR. .. what a load of twaddle but our military took it as a chance to squeeze much more money out of the M O D. . Everyone over excited people re’inlisting fkf FFF ALL
The military say "See-add", not "seed", for info. Also, all your in-flight simulator footage is totally wrong; that's not a Tornado cockpit.HUD.
Excellent vid but please get rid of the American pronunciations. We don’t have lootenants, missuls or Eye-raq 😊
Either way they got killed for no reason. I was sent off to to Iraq and they did not do 1 thing against me or anyone that was close to our teams..
There are other ground attack tasks besides CAS. Interdiction has always been important, but doesn't tend to get much praise from ground forces because they never see the impact it has
You are clearly listening to too many Americans. Iraq is not eye-rack but nearer to ear-ack.
Both are wrong it’s would be Id-ah-ck
Trust the French bomb to run and hide under ground 😉
"BULLSHIT"😅
Ffs what is a flash ion , its fashion , you make this mistake twice. I was a there and you are an amateur
Oops I annoyed someone
@@IrisAviation91 you annoy all veterans with your stolen valour comments . Was you even alive when we fought it
Great video but i cant get past that you dont know how to say Iraqi.
Bla bla. Complete waste of tax payers money.