Grow ROSES from Cuttings Make FREE Plants

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
  • Check out my new book that you can pre-order now. Simplify Vegetable Gardening will be available on 16th Feb 2024. Pre-order now to be the first to get a copy of this book that has all my personal tips. geni.us/SimplifyVegGardening We all love roses for their beauty and fragrance, but they are so expensive to buy. Due to this fact, we limit the number of plants that we keep as gardeners. But it doesn't have to be this way. In this video, I am going to show you How To Grow ROSES from Cuttings Make FREE Plants
    Free roses are easy to grow from cuttings and I am going to show you how to do it using the semi-hardwood rose cutting method. This is great because you do not need any special equipment to keep them alive, nor do you have to wait for an age for the rose cuttings to root.
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  • @simplifygardening
    @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +12

    If you would love to learn more tips to growing roses, then this is the next video you should watch ua-cam.com/video/bzJ9kJJB4wA/v-deo.html

  • @maytannock4048
    @maytannock4048 3 роки тому +8

    Thank you, that was so clear and totally understandable and especially delivered in a lovely Welsh accent. It is so applicable to our Scottish climate.

  • @saltlifegull4091
    @saltlifegull4091 2 роки тому +2

    Wow, I'm speechless. Awesome:) Thank you

  • @sandra-caz
    @sandra-caz 3 роки тому +5

    Best explanation video that I have seen!!
    So thank you for sharing 😊

  • @isabelladavis1363
    @isabelladavis1363 3 роки тому +1

    Great information very in-depth ,thank you for your time

  • @acolley2891
    @acolley2891 3 роки тому +10

    I really enjoy all of your videos. You fully cover each topic in a way I can understand. Thank you

  • @slaviapolandia7541
    @slaviapolandia7541 2 роки тому +1

    Love your videos on roses! Great content. Thank you.

  • @debkincaid2891
    @debkincaid2891 3 роки тому +2

    I'm so grateful to have discovered your channel. Thank you for sharing this information. I'm eager to try this!

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      You are so welcome Deb! I am glad you discovered my channel too :)

  • @hortiphile1397
    @hortiphile1397 3 роки тому +2

    I love watching your videos. Thank you they've been helpful

  • @PetalsonthePavingSlabs
    @PetalsonthePavingSlabs 3 місяці тому

    Thaks for this Tony, theres a family rose im looking to propagate and this is perfect. Cheers mate.

  • @TheGlamorousLifeofNae
    @TheGlamorousLifeofNae 2 роки тому +3

    This was so interesting & informative! Thank you! 😊

  • @ricdavid7476
    @ricdavid7476 3 роки тому +1

    excellent video thanks i am just about to start taking cuttings and try propogating them for the first time so this was spot on

  • @UKscrapper
    @UKscrapper 3 роки тому +2

    Another great explained video thanks Tony always get value from your videos thanks for sharing with us

  • @calvelinkchencen
    @calvelinkchencen Рік тому +1

    This is great! There is an amazing rose in one of the public areas near me and I really wanted to try and propagate her. Thank you

  • @little_miss_muffet
    @little_miss_muffet 3 роки тому +5

    What a fab video! Really clear and well explained. Looking forward to giving rose cuttings a go this year for the first time. Thank you!

  • @huynhdungdang657
    @huynhdungdang657 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for your informative video, English is my second language and your accent is so clear that I could easily understand, just subscribed ❤

  • @tasgardener7923
    @tasgardener7923 3 роки тому +17

    I grow them from seed. It takes a lot longer and can be trickier and cuttings are certainly the easier way to do it but I like seed growing with roses. As roses don't grow true to the parent plant from seed, the fun part (other watching little seedlings grow) is arriving at that time they get their first bud and you're waiting to see what colour it will be.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +1

      yes thats another great way to do it and of course possibly a future video :)

    • @tasgardener7923
      @tasgardener7923 3 роки тому +1

      @@simplifygardening definitely. I'm just about to sow some that have been in the fridge for most of our winter now it's finally spring here (you wouldn't know it the way the weather has been though!). I've probably left them in there a little too long but I'll stick them in and see how they go

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      @@tasgardener7923 Im sure they will be fine, Once dormant they will keep like that for an age before they become unviable

    • @tasgardener7923
      @tasgardener7923 3 роки тому

      @@simplifygardening it's not so much they become unviable but that they will germinate in the fridge if left in the fridge for too long. Had it happen a number of times when I've forgotten about seed I've tossed in there. If they germinate in the fridge they're pretty much cactus. I've grown on a few that have germinated in the fridge but you only end up with weak struggling seedlings so not worth it.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +1

      @@tasgardener7923 Ah ok, I see Best to ensure you get sowing before they start in the fridge then lol

  • @Soul_Chylde
    @Soul_Chylde Рік тому

    Fantastic advice thank you 😊 🙏🏾 🌹

  • @mariachatterton5178
    @mariachatterton5178 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for a helpful video.🙏🏼

  • @deewinston5651
    @deewinston5651 2 місяці тому

    Thank you Tony for sharing this helpful information. God bless.

  • @chachatruth3534
    @chachatruth3534 3 роки тому

    Amazing!! I'm going to try this!!!

  • @PopleBackyardFarm
    @PopleBackyardFarm 3 роки тому +1

    I love this! I love roses

  • @susanaquezada7671
    @susanaquezada7671 3 роки тому

    Loved your roses, Tony

  • @malk1275
    @malk1275 3 роки тому

    Great info 😊 will need to grow them

  • @shahremhassan2841
    @shahremhassan2841 Рік тому

    Nice way to explain

  • @gallopingg1
    @gallopingg1 3 роки тому +1

    GREAT INFO.

  • @PegsGarden
    @PegsGarden 3 роки тому +8

    I have done this with much success with semi hardwood cuttings here in SW Florida without rooting hormone, sometimes you can use honey instead.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +4

      Great tip Peg. Honey is a great substitute for a rooting hormone

  • @gioknows
    @gioknows Рік тому

    Outstanding! Cheers from Ottawa, Canada🍁

  • @MaliksGarden
    @MaliksGarden 3 роки тому

    great information in this video.. so helpful for beginners

  • @ameliemorton9849
    @ameliemorton9849 11 місяців тому

    informative, concise a great learning video thank you

  • @kimberlym.3643
    @kimberlym.3643 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this video. I love planting from cuttings from my other flowers but have never tried my roses. New Sub here.

  • @acxezknightnite1377
    @acxezknightnite1377 Рік тому

    Great video, thanks!

  • @stevendowden2579
    @stevendowden2579 3 роки тому

    enjoyable video tony

  • @FoodForestPermaculture
    @FoodForestPermaculture 3 роки тому +2

    Fantastic Tony ! Peace out fellow earthling .

  • @GardenerScott
    @GardenerScott 3 роки тому +2

    Great tutorial, Tony. This is one of the best I've seen. I'm using similar methods to propagate some yew plants.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      Thats great Scott. Yew is a great hedging plant is that what your using it for?

    • @GardenerScott
      @GardenerScott 3 роки тому +1

      @@simplifygardening Yes, hedges and I want to experiment a little with topiary.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      @@GardenerScott oh cool. its something I have never tried Scott. could be cool

    • @debexspacecadet6586
      @debexspacecadet6586 3 роки тому

      @@GardenerScott I think I might have a go at that next year.

  • @drobi0001
    @drobi0001 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve been attempting to grow rose 🌹 from cuttings, with no success. I’ll try your method. Thanks for sharing these great tips🙏

  • @colincassidy2861
    @colincassidy2861 2 роки тому +3

    Hi Tony, you recently gave me advice on moving an established rose which thanks to your help was successful. Last October I took cuttings from said rose and one or two of them have been successful. One cutting has actually got buds on it. Could you please tell me when I should plant them in my garden?

  • @vivianyerton7937
    @vivianyerton7937 3 роки тому

    I'm going to try this tomorrow, I have but 1 rose bush and want more, but cost preventing me from this. Thank you for your time and effort to share with us

  • @lourdeslebron-tribbett4154
    @lourdeslebron-tribbett4154 3 роки тому

    Thank you tony

  • @donaldkasper8346
    @donaldkasper8346 2 місяці тому +3

    All my cutting in mulch rot. You also did not say how often to water and where to water. Take off the bottle and water? Water around the bottle? Hardwood is brown bark. Semihardwood is green. That is the distinction. Rooting compound does zero for all plants I use it on versus do not.

  • @SC-ug7wo
    @SC-ug7wo 3 роки тому +4

    very helpful video, i always enjoy watching other people's techniques.. ive noticed the best thing i can do with my cuttings is leave them be for two months in wall watered cocopeat, out in the garden away from direct sunlight in a clear box- no watering. just forget about them. ive done this method in early spring, mid summer, and late summer- and i've been successful.. not bad for a novice gardener bored during lockdown! it's my first attempt doing 6 semi-hardwoord and hardwood cuttings in winter.. im sceptical these will work but im doing it all for fun anyway.. as an experiment i've kept 3 cuttings on the radiator next to a well lit window and the other in my conservatory which is fairly cold..

    • @RB-vb2lc
      @RB-vb2lc 2 роки тому

      How did the cuttings in water work out? I've just placed some in water.

    • @shahilagh
      @shahilagh Рік тому

      I never heard of putting cuttings in water they say put inside soil

  • @colincassidy2861
    @colincassidy2861 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, I’d love to see one on how to move an established rose as I’m recently retired and replanning my garden

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  2 роки тому +2

      Great suggestion! I dont have any to move, but cut it right back after it goes dormant and then cut a large root ball wrap in burlap and move to where you need, the plant will not have anything to support with a weaken root system so will recover quickly

  • @LiliansGardens
    @LiliansGardens 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for pointing out the difference in the hormonesfor semi hard cutting.

  • @sansukh1
    @sansukh1 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this informative videos! I have been watching over this. I have a success with cutting. Looks like it rooting and shooting in June here in Wales, Uk
    My question is when do I transfer this into the garden? Can I do it now or should I wait till feb/March next year??

  • @samasonedderman
    @samasonedderman 3 роки тому

    Thanks I'm off to propagated that rose that's been giving me a hard time. Stella

  • @janetbransdon3742
    @janetbransdon3742 3 роки тому

    Very Informative video... thank you. Greetings from a Welsh lady living in Australia... missing the Welsh accent.. SUBSCRIBED 🦘🐾🐨

  • @lourdeslebron-tribbett4154
    @lourdeslebron-tribbett4154 3 роки тому

    Love Rose's like my mother loved big yellow ones.
    But I have a hard time growing them

  • @konikacariapa3289
    @konikacariapa3289 2 місяці тому

    Could you please tell me how to protect rose plant crowns from termite attack. Thx

  • @duffyellie
    @duffyellie 3 роки тому +1

    Hi - great video, so next spring, when they should have rooted, what do you do next please? Thank you 😀

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +1

      Pot them into a 1 litre pot and allow a good root ball to form and after the last frosts they can be transplanted into their final growing spot

  • @RubyJosan
    @RubyJosan 3 роки тому

    I grow in this method, easy and quick

  • @TheRealKitWalker
    @TheRealKitWalker 2 роки тому +1

    If somebody wants to use a disinfectant for cuttings, try dipping the cutting in honey or turmeric before potting.

  • @randyo6019
    @randyo6019 3 роки тому

    Hey Tony! Hope you’re doing well. I tried this with Floribundas and it worked ok. Love roses but the soil in Atlanta GA is mostly hard clay. Can you do your next video on what to give roses for them to thrive? Thx buddy!

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      Randy I got that planned for early spring but covered a lot of stuff in the video in the pinned comment mate

  • @EroticSludge
    @EroticSludge 3 роки тому +4

    Hello, thanks for the video. First time ever propagating roses and have followed all your instructions including the plastic bottle on top. One question, how often should I water them now?

  • @Tranquilmind89
    @Tranquilmind89 3 роки тому +3

    How long do you need to leave the pop bottle on for? I've had my cuttings on a windowsill for about a week and they have new growth already

  • @debbiehenri345
    @debbiehenri345 3 роки тому

    Maybe it's high time to get a few more of that lovely Peace rose around the garden. I might even try a few cuttings of the native Scotch rose that I grew from seed collected from a plant growing on a nearby beach - lovely plant, don't know why breeders don't do more with it.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      I guess its down to peoples tastes they change all the time

  • @spookydigit
    @spookydigit 2 дні тому

    So take them from roundabouts? Noted.

  • @Quibus777
    @Quibus777 3 роки тому +1

    Nice video, as always.
    Some questions.
    1 peat moss, not recommended for this I guess? (Holding too much water I figure)
    2 50% general potting soil and 50% mason sand would work? (Our big aloe Vera was too big and I used a 50/50 mix of potting soil sand/gravel for concrete mix to repot it and it's pups, they all look great and I have some bags of mason sand around)
    Our roses are feeling the fall so no more nice flowers or leaves so just put cuttings without leaves in so,e pots now would work? (I have done this just sticking cuttings in soil earlier in the season with success and gifted those plants, but well I plan on a pre winter pruning soon so epic I could use the cutting that would be awesome.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      Yes generally you need to keep it free draining. watch this video as it will give you more tips on how to grow them so treat the cuttings similar ua-cam.com/video/bzJ9kJJB4wA/v-deo.html

  • @briansgardenandpolytunnel8172
    @briansgardenandpolytunnel8172 3 роки тому

    my favourite way to take rose cuttings is after dead heading. i wait a couple of weeks after dead heading and look for new buds forming at the leaf axils. as you said, cutting at a node and reducing the foliage, then a fine scrape to open the cambium layer. i dont need cuttings any more than 8". i do use a light dusting of rooting hormone over the scrape and never have any problems. like everybody else, i never have 1000% rooting, but never far off............................brian

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      Yeah keep the humidity up Brian and they do well

    • @moniquem9609
      @moniquem9609 2 роки тому

      If I live in high humidity south Florida . Do I still need the water bottle o er it ?

  • @JamesTyler8918
    @JamesTyler8918 9 місяців тому

    Hi thanks for the video. My cuttings have started to get shoots from the sides, does that mean that they have rooted?

  • @samuelcooley6406
    @samuelcooley6406 2 роки тому

    What month would you recommend for taking rose stem cuttings
    Samuel
    Glasgow

  • @monaraahmed7193
    @monaraahmed7193 3 роки тому

    👍👍👍

  • @yosibest
    @yosibest 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video, what is the earliest you could take cuttings in the UK?

  • @RoseMary-vs3io
    @RoseMary-vs3io Рік тому

    👌👍

  • @phillipeaton7543
    @phillipeaton7543 Рік тому

    Great video!!! I was just wondering how much you needed to water them whilst waiting for the roots to take hold???

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  11 місяців тому

      the soil needs to be damp prob once or twice most or you cause rot

  • @andyslack699
    @andyslack699 9 місяців тому

    @simplifygardening does the dome stay on all winter, or just while the cutting is rooting please?

  • @devbachu7072
    @devbachu7072 Рік тому

    I have a sir Isaac Madera rose such a beautiful rose hope she pives

  • @gjh997
    @gjh997 3 місяці тому

    Excellent video. Thank you very much. Diolch!

  • @irishguy200007
    @irishguy200007 2 місяці тому

    Any substitute for rooting hormone?

  • @SuzyTopAgent
    @SuzyTopAgent 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome tips Tony, I've tried propagating the amazing smelling roses we have, but haven't had luck, will try your specific tips. Also want to try to propagate our grapevine that was given to us from my Father in Law.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +1

      Oh the grapes are very easy and I have a few videos on them in the grape playlist Suzy :)

    • @SuzyTopAgent
      @SuzyTopAgent 3 роки тому

      @@simplifygardening I'll have to check them out especially if this is the time to do it. It holds special meaning and would love to multiply them, instead of buying from the store.
      I've propagated my Mom's plants and though she's passed 7 years now, it feel like she's with me every time I water.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +1

      @@SuzyTopAgent Suzy Grapes are so easy that even if you cut below a node and just shove it in soil it will grow. But check out the grape playlist there and i cover it in a couple of the videos

  • @abitofeverythin3535
    @abitofeverythin3535 Рік тому

    Hello can this be done in June as I'm moving and want to take some cutting in West wales moving to England thanks 😊

  • @poppete
    @poppete 3 роки тому

    Can you please do a video on small hoop covers or row covers, the different materials ie, shade cloth, plastic, and other types of protection and when to use them and what they are used for. I see them so often in videos and I am thinking of buying some, they are expensive where I am so need to make an all rounder choice. Where I am Victoria Australia, we get some cold stuff but not usually under 0 c, more like between 0 and 10 at night and 8 and 15 during the day in winter no snow and Hot stuff an average high in the 20's to 30's with a few 40+ C in summer with hot winds, occasional hail from storms in summer

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      Jennifer I already have this video planned in for January ready for a few weeks before they will be required. I understand it will be your summer but my programming is jammed up until then but this was one of the videos I am wanting to make

    • @poppete
      @poppete 3 роки тому

      @@simplifygardening Great I look forward to it. My gardening life has been put on hold anyway (double bypass surgery) so the timing will be fine - Just in time for the hot stuff to start and I may be back at it by then.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +1

      @@poppete Oh sorry to hear about your surgery. hope your ok and have a speedy recovery

    • @poppete
      @poppete 3 роки тому

      @@simplifygardening Thank you, it is a slow process but i'm getting there. Family history - my Uncle is still kicking on 21 years after his.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +1

      @@poppete Thats great ell hopefully you be back at it soon. Take care :)

  • @farhanayeasmin804
    @farhanayeasmin804 Рік тому

    Hi my cutting new leaf dying drying out may I know what’s happening is it going to die

  • @noahriding5780
    @noahriding5780 Рік тому

    Does anyone know if you can do cutting propagation on vine plants? Will it still work for them or not? Thanks.

  • @ArtByEmilyHare
    @ArtByEmilyHare 3 роки тому +1

    Can I ask how to stop my roses getting black spot? I've been afflicted this year and even my cuttings from last year (which all took, yay!) were as well. Is a plant ruined if it gets black spot? I've currently just cut off all the black spot off the plants (including some of the stalks which looked like they were affected).

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +2

      Hi Emily. i do not currently have a video on black spot, However, I do have a full in-depth article on it and you can read that here simplifygardening.com/black-spot-roses/

    • @ArtByEmilyHare
      @ArtByEmilyHare 3 роки тому +1

      @@simplifygardening brilliant thank you so much!

  • @SuperKayraz
    @SuperKayraz Рік тому

    if you put the cuttings outside during winter with the dome and all . do you still need to water them periodically

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  Рік тому +1

      Yeah but very infrequently you dont want to cause issues with drowning the cutting and causing them to rot

    • @andyslack699
      @andyslack699 10 місяців тому

      ​@@simplifygardeningdoes the dome stay on all winter, or just while the cutting is rooting please?

  • @holdenmcgroin3995
    @holdenmcgroin3995 10 місяців тому

    How often should I water the cutting?

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  10 місяців тому +1

      wait until it dries out then water again or it will rot

  • @georgeelmerdenbrough6906
    @georgeelmerdenbrough6906 3 роки тому +1

    Do roses help bringing in pollinators ?? I see them as nothing more than more work as the produce nothing practical , no food . So is there another upside to roses other than they are pretty and fragrant ?

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +2

      They bring in pollinators, but they keep the misses happy they feed the birds in winter and you can make rosehip syrup and rosehip wine from them

  • @kirstipeters1314
    @kirstipeters1314 3 роки тому

    What is your favourite Rose Tony?

  • @lynmaunsell4062
    @lynmaunsell4062 3 роки тому

    Tony, what if you take cuttings from a rose that has been grafted? Will the plant grow OK?

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +1

      Lyn obviously if you take the cutting above the graft you will get the same blooms as the rose you're already seeing. What you won't have is the characteristics of the rootstock, so if your rose was grafted to dr Huey rootstock, for instance, this rootstock is used in order to have a longer budding season. when you take a cutting from the grafted plant you won't get those benefits, so in this case, it may not flower as long due to not having the benefits of that rootstock and it will grow its parent root system. Does that explain it for you?

    • @lynmaunsell4062
      @lynmaunsell4062 3 роки тому

      Simplify Gardening yes Tony, that makes sense, thanks

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      @@lynmaunsell4062 Your welcome :)

  • @Tessicasadventures
    @Tessicasadventures 3 роки тому

    roses

  • @_wormlet
    @_wormlet 2 роки тому

    at 4:24, the plant behind you.. Is it Russian Vine?

  • @debexspacecadet6586
    @debexspacecadet6586 3 роки тому

    I have all my Rose's from cuttings and from bunches from florists.

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      Yes it is such a great way to save money and propagate them

    • @debexspacecadet6586
      @debexspacecadet6586 3 роки тому +1

      @@simplifygardening since learning this a few years ago, still learning, we now plant cuttings of everything when the trimming is done. I now have 200 little hedge plants growing and 30 or so figs. We have a 100 year old home and garden and recently moved an old nectarine tree from too close to the house. 6 months later we have 89 nectarine trees growing. Do you think they will bare fruit one day?

  • @neilbryson6756
    @neilbryson6756 3 роки тому

    I thought roses were grown on special root stocks, I’m puzzled as the roses grown from cuttings will not have this root stock so presumably will be very different from the parent??

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому

      The rootstock usually controls one of two things Neil. It controls vigour and can help with a longer blooming season. The rose above the graft is the same. however it will produce the original roots this rose would have had, so it may get taller than usual or may not bloom as long. Does that help you understand now? It is still a viable way in which to obtain new plants but without the characteristics of the rootstock, but does not mean the blooms will change drastically.

  • @alexhorn5577
    @alexhorn5577 3 роки тому

    whats your scarecrows name?

  • @jeffdinter6208
    @jeffdinter6208 3 роки тому +1

    Can you do this with roses that you buy at the grocery store or floral shop?

  • @bodilskumsrud520
    @bodilskumsrud520 3 роки тому

    Very instructive,but....the music is just disturbing...sorry!

  • @ArtInMotionStudios
    @ArtInMotionStudios 3 роки тому +2

    This is against the law for some roses from my understanding

    • @simplifygardening
      @simplifygardening  3 роки тому +8

      If the roses are copyrighted you are not supposed to propagate them, But it's my understanding this is to sell on. Who would know if you do it to your own plants in your own garden

    • @sandy-rr1by
      @sandy-rr1by 3 роки тому +1

      i read that plant patents stand for 20 years, no copying at all, for any purpose. i have the plant tag for one plant in my yard. i looked up the number online and found the 20 year patent expires jan2021.

    • @helenscoffield
      @helenscoffield 3 роки тому

      When you sow your rose hip seeds and you like what you get after a few years, you need to use cuttings or you only have that one. I have some that all family members and many friends have cut from. If you do that for business then you need to have a network, not only online, for people to find them. Nature is generous with her seeds and properties, so her empire spreads!

  • @runandyoudie
    @runandyoudie 3 місяці тому

    Can we do this now? End of march beginning of april?