Harry constantly laments about Charles and Camilla’s affair and paints Camilla to be wicked, but he conveniently forgets that Diana was the only parent who used him and William as pawns in her affair/s.
At the time Harry may have been too young to know what was going on. Meanwhile, Diana was confiding in William (so he knew exactly what was going on). All of Charles' friends knew about Camilla (as did her husband -- they had an open marriage) Andrew Parker-Bowles was fine with it until it became general knowledge to the public. That is when he filed for divorce. Dale "Kanga" Tyron's husband also filed for divorce. Charles was going on with his wife on/off for several years. Dale was not as discrete as Camilla
My understanding is that Diana had 12 known affairs with this James being the second. Some of them were married men with families. And let’s not forget that Harry was sleeping with his wife when she was so deeply in a relationship- the chef that his parents were expecting a proposal announcement any time. It’s a shame Harry will never read these books or the one by the foot man that VRS is doing atm. There are things my 8 - 10 year old self knew about both of my parents that I didn’t work out what they actually were until I was an adult myself. & I never dared ask them when they were alive but have had them confirmed by relatives since. Harry’s Emotional Intelligence, quite apart from his brain chemistry being so out of whack, is so low that he’d probably, these days, blame the British press now he’s laid off his family for a while. He obviously has been trained by the Palace and the army to take orders so is actually listening to his PR advisors & has found something else to blame while the family is ill.
Trust me, no one cared about the waste back in the 80s. Charles was ahead of his time in the mainstream talking about organic food and recycling etc. I remember them taking the mickey in the newspapers but we don't think twice about it now
I'm proud to say my parents composted and recycled in the 60's & 70's. My Dad grew up on a farm and both of them had had hard times in their childhood.
I lived over there in my teens and remember the papers ridiculing him over this stuff. In so many ways he was far ahead of his time. Which really cracked me up when Harry said his wife introduced him to organic food & healthy diets - like you seriously didn’t pay any attention to what was going on around you, did you? Or he was lying, either is possible with him.
I do trust you and I also remember that it was a big deal in early 80’s when bottle deposits came back. I thought it was cool that some of the things people labeled weird like composting are fairly mainstream now!
@flowermeerkat6827 same with my parents. they were poor immigrants here, so we had to make do with what we could afford. They grew things in the garden when we moved into a house.
After listening to this book I understand why Prince William and his family live in Adelaide Cottage- a four bedroom house on Windsor Estate- they can have a private life with minimum staff when the children are young. More like Catherine’s childhood than William’s
I'm so enjoying this book, thank you! Yes, your comment about how Charles had a special closeness to Harry truly was heartbreaking. If Charles had this perception of their relationship for much of his life, only to suddenly feel so deeply hurt and betrayed after marrying Meg, having walked her down the aisle as a kind gesture and having immediately offered to escort Doria out of the Church following the wedding ceremony, and his genuine efforts of welcoming acceptance to the Royal family, the cruelty and depth of pain must have felt unfathomable. That one sentence alone of the special bond shared reminded me of the true father-son relationship and his understandable reluctance to completely close off the possibility to mend relations in the future. Not only has he been grieving the loss of his father, his mother, his suddenly distant son, the internal thoughts and terror of how he might have been able to protect all of them from the horrors of Meg. He's King without sharing such a remarkable experience with Harry and the grief of not having the opportunity to perhaps develop a meaningful relationship with Harry's children, should they exist, whilst also coping with his own cancer diagnosis and concern for a life possibly shorter than hoped, and excessive anxiety over the health of his much loved daughter in law. These, all after having survived the rebuilding of his own public image after the loss of Diana and his likely personal anguish, guilt, shame, pain and regret over how he might have behaved differently during those tumultuous years they were together. King Charles is actually quite the pillar of strength in many ways when reflecting upon his experiences so far.
It's heartbreaking. And Thomas Markel pines for his daughter, whom he claims changed since she got with Harry. I think she changed long before that, when she was mailing wedding rings back to her husband to announce she was filing for divorce.
@@Arsewell-Foundationmeghan was awful as a child, you can just see from the photos. Pulling faces at her father as he takes her on yet another trip. A spoiled-rotten little hussy. She was lording it over kids at a birthday party insisting SHE was a princess and it wasn’t even her birthday party! She was about 9!!
Wonderful! I am beginning to realise that Harry might not have been completely wring about the similarity between his wife and his mother - it's just that Diana's "exterior face" was way more appealing than Meghan's.......
I was thinking as something similar when Diana was sobbing on stairs. Didn't she do that in an earlier chapter? Was that the sobbing on the floor equivalent?
Charles had very physically active life with playing polo, shooting, gardening and he also liked painting now he couldn't do all of this for months. It was serious injury. Doctors were afraid that charles might loose his right hand. He went under 3 surgeries in a year. Plus he didn't take pain killer.
He could but he’s a cuckoo homeopath banana. Anyone who learns the principles of homeopathy and doesn’t realize there’s more dog poo, acid, antibiotics, backwash, and whatever else in tiny quantities than whatever medicine you intentionally diluted to a millionth power is asking for pain. He had great anecdotal evidence from his beloved grandma living to 101, etc. but that every generation of Royals have given Warrants to homeopaths is just stupid.
@@MaryR1231 not so much in orthopedics actually for the same injury he would have received the same treatment. Pining and plating the bones together with a bone graft from his hip
The bedroom situation was, I think, typical of the upper classes at the time it was built. The master’s bedroom was his private space. He and his wife shared the master bedroom. The master’s room with the single bed was used when the mistress of the house was sick, pregnant, giving birth, recuperating from giving birth, nursing, having her period, or when the master went out for the evening and was planning to come home late. The gentlemanly thing to do was to let her sleep undisturbed while you spent the night in your closet. Or in town.
I always enjoy the longer videos...and so sad when it's over. At the end of the video is usually me saying: noooooooooooooooooo noooooooo! Thank you for another entertaining episode, Cheere!! Until next time...... ❤❤❤
Diana was never going to be a parent who wanted her children to expand their minds or develop and grow because she wanted them to stay at her level of immaturity so she could relate to them on her own terms.
Excellent point. Explains why she insisted on spoiling Harry to where he now has arrested development. I'm starting to think that Diana had arrested development too.
At the time, this was played as "Look what a good mother Diana is!" Much was also made of the fact that when they were visiting her, she took them out to McDonald's for meals. It was a way of putting down the sort of life they had when they were with their father, as if that was so stifling and unnatural. Mark Steyn wrote that nobody would praise the single mother in a council flat for feeding her kids fast food instead of home-cooked meals, but when Diana did it it was supposed to be a mark of her sincerity and down-to-earth quality. "Breath of fresh air" and all that.
I love, love, love your take on these books Cheere Denise! But please cut Charles some slack. According to a NHS nurse, he broke his elbow, not his arm. He had a THREE HOUR Surgery to try to fix it, and was hospitalized for a week. Apparently the whole thing was downplayed greatly at the time. I personally don’t see any advantage to concealing the severity of the injury, as then the door was opened for folks to call him a big baby. But you’re damned if you do reveal everything to the public, and damned if you don’t. Publicity is toxic.
I’ve heard that the famous “toothpaste on the toothbrush” requirement comes from this time. KC is bad mouthed sometimes for requiring servants to prepare his toothbrush with toothpaste on it, but I’ve heard it was only during the time of his recovery and his arm being out of commission, not something required the rest of his life. (allegedly, imo).
Charles had two fractures in his humerus (upper arm bone). One was in the mid shaft and the other one was near the elbow. The one near the elbow failed to unite and was operated upon after two months. They took a bone graft from his thigh bone and placed the graft and a metal plate to induce union. It was a major bone morbidity. If not treated well, such things cause permanent deformity.
Diana was mercurial, and it was hard to know where you would stand with her, whereas with Camilla was stable, friendly and funny, a much more likeable character.
I have always liked Camilla. She looks as she is made of strong stuff. I saw her once shopping and she couldn't care less about what her people were recommending her.
After hearing about Diana’s real character, I think that Harry is 100% correct and Meghan IS like his mother: manipulative, calculating, cruel, and superficial.
And dramatic and self serving while putting on a facade of selflessness. Her unstable emotional state also reminds him of his mother. Sadly he’s chosen that in a wife as he’s comfortable with this scenario.
She was dramatic and manipulative, but I don't know about cruel. Surely she was selfishly mean at times, but Meghan has this special air of destruction around her that Diana didn't have.
I'm just now thinking that same thought. Such a shame people have made Diana into a Saint. Although, if Diana were still alive, I bet Harry and Meghan would have turned against her too. Meghan would have been so jealous of Diana.
Ooooh! THAT’s how Meg knew the Queen’s private nickname! She DID read this book in anticipation of joining the Royal family. Ughhhh. There is no way she found this out organically - no one ever trusted her.
That name had been used by Dickie Mountbatten to refer to her long before she was Queen. I think that once she was Queen she was too important to trivialize with nicknames from her past but other people did refer to her by that name who were family friends.
I knew that was her nickname from a very young age. It seemed like common knowledge. I'm Australian and there were always articles in magazines and newspapers on the Royals. Maybe that's the difference?
Actually, it was the Queens childhood nickname, used by her parents, sister and of course all relatives and close friends. I somehow seem to have known it forever, so it was not a secret. Perhaps The Little Princesses book was the first time it was seen by the general public.
@@LadyCat183 Meghan was expecting when Prince Philip died. On the coffin on a simple card attached to the only flower wreath, was the name Lilibet. Here was another chance to get at the Queen, she could show her lack of respect and take another thing from her.
@@cathmay6429 right, so the b#&ch did not have to have read this book. Actually, if it was not in big print on a computer I doubt she could have read anything 🙄🤣
Maybe as William grew older and particularly after Diana died he came to see the reality if the situation he'd been put in and accepted that it had been
I am so glad Charles has Camilla by his side now. She was always a far better match for him. Even without the age gap, he and Diana were so unsuited, add in her immaturity and dysfunction, it was a recipe for a disaster
I love your reviews because you include the juicy bits no one else covers. It's the details people didn't know before. And I have to say ... You really nailed Diana's voice and accent. Sometimes when I hear that breathy English I look at my screen expecting to see her face. This book has been my favorite so far, but I can't wait to follow you into the Kennedy saga.
Sheesh! That staff NDA was taking a real workout. Who on earth would sleep with their lover while their hubby is away and leave the evidence on the sheets for the staff to discover? Not only is it gross, but extremely indiscreet. I wasn't surprised to see such a shabby kitchen at Highgrove. I think Charles would have considered the kitchen as part of the staff quarters. I remember hearing a royal correspondent mention that Queen Elizabeth was surprised when she visited William and Catherine at Anmer Hall to see that the family spent time together around the kitchen table. She did not understand why they did not use their formal dining room for eating family meals. I like to think of George, Charlotte and Louis helping to prepare family meals while chatting away about their day...such a sweet family!
@@misscoutts6193 I remember Princess Catherine telling Mary Berry that her children love helping her to make pizza, and she said she enjoys cooking for her family. She bakes and decorates their birthday cakes, too!
@Tamara-mm7us Oh no I am so sorry I didn't mean my comment to mean anything negative ......the information is appalling. Learning all these new aspects of Diana and Charles ' actions and what they are REALLY like is appalling. I apologize for being clumsy in my writing. I appreciate and admire Chere Denise. Her accents are probably the best I have ever heard. She sounds exactly like Diana. It is spooky! Thank you for giving me the opportunity to clear this matter up. I want everyone to understand exactly what I mean.
Love this book and your coverage of it. Such a tragedy knowing what we know now. I'm more and more impressed with William the more i learn about the family. How he's not a basket case is a miracle
@@lizziestevenson1908 o dont😅😅😅.. I hope one day we aren't all listening to Cheere reading a book about William being mad this whole time and Catherine being a bitch from hell😅😅😅😅. Fortunately, I think they are pretty genuine. Diana had the Camilla affair to keep people on her side and cut her some slack who had seen through her long ago. Without that she would have lost a lot of sympathy.
Gawd. I’m only 8 minutes in & already the thought of more children into the mix fills me with HORROR. This is obviously a marriage of HUGE dysfunction and it’s been said that Diana displayed a number of narcissistic traits . I can speak from experience, my ex narc I’m convinced got me pregnant on purpose looking back 45 years ago so I’d marry & said he was happy with one but ended up with 3 in 2.5 years and 5 years later when he knew he was losing me deliberately got me pregnant again with the 4th. I was gone before she was 3yo. There’s NOTHING more stressful than introducing another child into a toxic relationship no matter who you are.
True, she was just a complicated person like we all are. I don’t like to see anyone get put on a pedestal nor torn down from one. Diana coverage in general tends to make me sad for these reasons. But Cheere’s Diana voice makes it worth it-I don’t know WHERE she pulled it from but it is AMAZING!
@@m-alexandria-g so now if it's in vogue to smear Diana...how sad as everyone's complicated. Yet Diana had compassion all have attested plus a quick wit. Insecure from her own childhood but many people are.
@@lonestarbellepk agreed… I’m sad to see the cycle reach the point where we blame her for not being better when she had zero examples of how to behave within a family unit from the time she was an infant, and then she did her best but all she knew was this romantic fantasy… tbh I think Charles really admires Lord Byron, too… I think the reason he was so tight with Jimmy Saville, etc. is because he believed in the “classical education” AKA I think he was/is into little boys and that Camilla is his soulmate because she isn’t as disturbed by that as Diana was. No one wants to talk the real dirty dirt on Charles. I like him in a vacuum but I think the reason Diana felt desperate was because of things she never admitted, she just talked (and cried) around it all when she could have absolutely destroyed him
Thank you so much for taping during your vacation, Denise! I'm sitting with my service dog with my morning cup of coffee, and we're happily listening!!😊❤
This just might be my favorite book yet! I really like how the housekeeper seems to like them both while also being aware of both of their idiosyncrasies and personality traits.
I've been the overnight guest of a few châtelains here in France during my 40+ years of residence here, and I'll always remember how shocked I was (this was actually a palatial apartment in the 16e arrondissement of Paris) the first time I walked from the splendor of the ancient tapestries, oil paintings and furniture of the main living room, down the hallway, and into the kitchen. It was very big, but it was SO sort of impoverished looking! I had no words. And this happened again and again during later trips to friends' chateaux. I think it was a leftover from the days of servants and their not "deserving" of pretty environments or something.
Had I thought about it, I would have assumed that royal residences have restaurant-quality, stainless-steel-work-surface kitchens. The old, out of date, difficult to use kitchens are horrific. It’s not being thrifty if you are making someone else manage the inconvenience!
Kitchens were working rooms and the owners didn't care much for them. Although I would have expected things to have been better in France than in Britain. Guess I was wrong 🤣.
Charles did commit adultry he owned up to it and never threw Diana under the bus about all her affairs. He also was with one women and he ended up marrying her.(Not to say he shouldnt be held accountable for his wrong doings)In my opinion he is a much more stand up person compared to Diana's sneeky ways of acting like a victim constantly. It's so much easier for me to understand Harry's mental issues. She manipulated him and tried to do the same with William but he grew up and matured unlike his younger sibling. Its amazing to me how she used the "horrible" media to her advantage and made herself out to me this innocent naive poor unaware princess. She never took enough or any blame for how her life ended up. Its not to say it was all her fault in anyway that her married life was not a happy one. But i also think she was a very spoiled immature and majorly self centered young woman.
Good point. Diana never hinted in all her confessions that maybe she was lacking in some areas and wasn’t all that Charles needed either or that she also treated him badly at times. She only made herself look like the victim in the marriage rather than also admitting that she may have been a little too eager to accept the royal trappings without having the necessary maturity for such a marriage. She wanted to be pitied and for people to demonize Charles rather than admitting, as Charles did, that they were simply non compatible people through no fault of their own. While I recognize Diana’s unhappiness, it’s hard to fully empathize with her because of her constant self pity parties and not taking responsibility for her part why the marriage failed. Charles never discussed her violent outbursts or tried to allude to her emotional instability while Diana painted him as a very emotionally cruel man who was hurting her on purpose. I think Charles was for sure not prepared to deal with Diana’s complexities but I don’t think he was trying to be cruel to her and his avoidance was a way of coping. It was Charles who wanted the separation and eventually the divorce, Diana never wanted to be “set free” from the marriage as that would have meant giving up her status. I think it’s a mistake not to wonder why Diana if she was so terribly unhappy and desperate didn’t make the first step to ask for the divorce. As a young, aristocratic, rich woman with her own fame, beauty and public interest she was in no shortage of suitors to find a happier life. She clearly didn’t love Charles anymore but she didn’t want to stop being his wife. In the end it was Charles who did the honorable thing at a great cost to himself and put a stop to the charade.
He had a series of women. Camilla was just the one that stuck around. It was literally the reason why every other woman he proposed to before Diana, turned him down. Because of his womanizing ways. Diana was actually picked by Camilla to date because she was so young, naive, dumb, and unknowing about that side of him until it was too late. The perfect wife to put in so they can have their affairs, right?
@@YmustTh3w0rldG0r0und What are you talking about. Diana grew up on the Sandringham Estate, Diana's father was an Equerry. Her family home, Althorp was a stately mansion, which will continue to be in the family, for generations to come, as it's inherited, along with her father's title of Earl. She wasn't some naive child, yes young. She had her own apartment in London for a couple of year's, before she married. She knew exactly what she was getting into, she didn't need Camilla to set her up with Charles, her own sister dated him. It was her world, they were aristocrats.
I liked the part where all the family is at dinner talking about Charles ears. So many inferences and observations packed into that simple tale. Wendy has penned an historical tome. Thank you sooo much for bringing it to us, along with all your insightful explanations. ❤
Please, consider adding to your book queue "The Little Princesses" by Marion Crawford which was the governess to Queen Elizabeth and Princess Margaret. I saw a documentary about it. It seems quite interesting. We appreciate all of your thoughtfully created content. Thanks in advance.
It is a wonderful book, it’s a real shame that Ms Crawford faced such rejection from the family for writing it. The Royals demand so much loyalty but rarely return it.
Isn't the book a little over sweet and old fashioned by now? I do feel Crawfie was badly treated but I have no interest I the book. I would probably have loved it when I was 16.
She was already having affairs ..plural... before Charles & Camilla got back together. I loathed her and the way she used her children and lost several friends over my thought on this. In the 80s Charles was way ahead of the world inregard to environmental issues and was constantly & openly mocked by the press for his views
Camilla was well-liked by those within her social group from the time she was a teen. That is why they were so willing to protect her and Charles' relationship (being the PoW contributed to their willingness to aid him too)
Royals and aristocrats often married for political, dynastic and financial reasons. All were aware of this fact and therefore affairs were considered normal. Discretion was all that was required. One of the reasons for grand houses having many rooms
What I enjoy most are your remarks. You crack me up. Diana was always exhausted due to bulemia. Woof! Electrolytes unbalanced, weight loss that's visible. Yikes.
Just perfect for a lazy Sunday afternoon’s listening here in the sunny south west of England. Thank you so much for all your hard work making these super entertaining videos!
I feel like Diana preferred children because she was not really capable of adult company due to her intellectual laziness. She seems to have been very dull to be around.
Yes, Diana and Harry were both dumb. People gave her a pass because of her looks. Although she is just average to me. Catherine is way better looking. Also not crazy. William got his brains from his Dad. Thank God.
I winced a bit hearing that she asked her guests what TV shows they watched. I guess talking politics was out, since Royals aren’t supposed to share their views. But couldn’t she have gotten up to speed on news stories? Sometimes having a real hobby is good for making conversation, too.
Very enjoyable reading. You may wish to consider Sally Bedell Smith’s Diana: In search of herself for your next reading. She uses newspaper articles and over a hundred interviews of people near the royal couple to tell the story. Diana fans generally don’t like the book but it’s a good read.
I just looked it up on Amazon. There is no kindle version. Hardcover is $80.82 and paperback $142.47. I might just have to keep an eye out for a second hand copy! She has written others that look interesting too....one on the late Queen's parents, for example.
James Hewitt's mother has spoken about William and Harry carrying in the dinner trays for James and Diana when they would visit for weekends at her house.
Bizarre. Didn't the mother think it strange and not want her son to marry a normal young lady? Wasn't Hewitt engaged I recall seeing on the front of a tabloid. 🤔
@@misscoutts6193 Oliver Hoare had a wife and children. Will Carling was newly married. At the end, Dodi Al Fayed had a 'fiancé' o another yacht nearby. Diana didn't let that interfere with what/who she wanted.
It wasn’t just a normal break, he had to have specialist treatment and was transferred to a specialist treatment in Nottingham, definitely didn’t make more of it than it needed. I think he had numerous treatments
Let’s not forget that James Hewitt was Diana’s second love affair…allegedly of course. From my reading she had at least 12 provable ones, usually smuggled into the boot of a car. Ugh. The indignity of it. Those men must have been desperate with several married with families OR she was off the charts great in the sack.
@@ptrpan61I think you are right. They all bailed as soon as she got too intense. I feel sorry for her, she really was desperate for affection, something she never had.
Sounds like a very, very immature person who appeared to have been afflicted with an arrested development. Wait until y'all find out that she took the children to Hewitt's mother's house and spent countless weekends there with him. But Charles is the bad guy who never introduced his children to Camilla until the 2000s
When James Hewitt grew tired of her relentless neediness and ended the affair she deliberately ruined his life. She was just awful. Breaking up marriages, over 1,000 silent calls to the wife of one of her lovers.
@@debbydouglas759 when James Hewitt wanted out of the relationship Diana was furious and so she declared to the world in her true victimhood fashion that he had betrayed her. Then she went on to have a liaison with a member of the aristocracy to whom Harry bears a very striking resemblance.
@@helenjackson3490 Oh yes , I’d forgotten, she did that in the famous tell all. But I thought she had her affair with Hewitt after Harry was born? Also if you look at pictures of Harry & a young Prince Philip they look amazingly alike so I think he is a Windsor . His temperament is definitely Spencer though as is Diana’s.
Darlin, the reason for the video of the lady functioning with her feet was for us to admire the way she overcame adversity. It wasn't for you to pile shame on yourself. You do really well. You have basically two jobs if you consider your channel. You get up really early, get fully dressed and have your hair and makeup looking great on your videos and that's all before most people wake up. Not to mention you being a wife and mother- that in itself is a full-time job. Just admire the armless lady and for God's sake give yourself praise and a break!! God bless you C. Denise!! Heck, I started to feel ashamed watching you one time...but I'm a bit too lazy for shame. 😂😂😂
I think the thing with his arm is that he was an elite athlete. Amongst the best in the world at polo and a lot of his friends were with the polo set. I think he was scared sick that Diana or his mother were going to insist on him stoping playing . Which was a real scare , he didn’t want to do do that and be stuck being future king and nothing else
It would be the best interest of the King to allow this book to be published in the UK. Sure, he would be criticized for some of his deeds, but so would be Saint Diana, and Harry's central argument about a cold, unloving father would be shot down for once and for all. It would also help people better understand the agony Harry caused him during the time he lost his father, mother, going through cancer at the same time his beloved daughter-in-law does while taking on the responsibility of being King. That little pr Ickly prince single handedly torments him. He has been deeply hurt for years and still doesn't get much sympathy.
Sometimes we need a good whistleblower, non-disclosure agreement or not! I read it back in the day, and they really should do a re-print in the United States. If books get smuggled into the UK, so much the better. 😊
I agree. I’m from the UK and lived through these times. This book has been an eye opener for me. I had never previously heard about it. Thank you CD for featuring it. I binge watched the first 7 episodes in 24 hours! Charles comes out of the whole thing a lot better than his first wife. His kids are old enough to accept what happened. “Nil nisi bonum” can be carried too far.
I think separate bedrooms save marriages! My paternal grandparents married in 1951, did that. Still alive, still married, still separate rooms. I married in 1993. Shared bedroom. Divorced in ‘98😂
🥰❤ Cheere, never apologize for "talking too much" because I LOVE your additions, thought and especially your expressions! Thank you for being SO entertaining! ❤💯
Ken Wharfe said that he liked James Hewitt and that he felt like he was good for Diana..He trusted James to not place her in a weird situation just to get pics taken by the Pap's..He said that when Diana was with James at that time she was extremely happy and that he tried not to judge the affair due to the fact that Diana was married to the one man that she technically couldn't divorce..
@@lisalivingston6473 Did he sell the letters? I know the Judge ruled in his favor and the letters were given back to Hewitt..I will admit that I was disappointed with his behavior but as we all know money talks..
@@judyholiday1794 I haven't heard that he sold the letters yet. Maybe he's having second thoughts or waiting for someone from Diana's family or circle of friends to buy them to protect her privacy and legacy.
She was awful. I remember the scandal when it all happened. I think he was trying to exit and she went all bunny boiler on him , ringing his landline all night. Deranged! It was reported to Scotland Yard and miraculously his wife didn’t leave him.
Diana was Oliver Hoare’s stalker. She made his life (and is wife’s) a nightmare for over a year before the harassing late night phone calls were traced to Diana’s private line at Kensington Palace by Scotland Yard.
@@judywright4241Tom Bower's books remind a bit of Kitty Kelly's books ....you'd think Charles had never done anything right ...they're just full of snark and pettiness
I thought it was just me... I have tried with the Mountbattens, and u am sure its a great biography, but for one of the main characters of the 20th century in Britain, he is ultimately a very dull man.
Thank you for this. I watched another channel review this book and enjoyed the take and angle of it. I didn't think I'd enjoy listening to it a second time but you have a great take on it too. Thank you. Thoroughly enjoyable and a lesson well learnt.
Dearest Cheere, I do so love your brilliant work. The best part today was about the lady who sewed her children's clothes with her feet. I was friends with a thalidomide baby, she was a foot painter and one of the most upbeat people you can imagine under the circumstances. I agree and it touched me deeply when you said, shouldn't I expect a bit more from myself (not quoting you exactly).❤You are a treasure and I look forward to every episode so much. Listen while I tend my plants..what a joy!
@krishnavyas313 to be fair, depending on the model, TVRs aren't necessarily as expensive as your usual sports cars suspects, my ex husband and I had one, it really wasn't that expensive,I was gutted when he sold it.
I think for Prince Charles as a Royal, people cooked and cleaned, all mechanical, capable, and thorough- at arms length. All his life was like that. But void of true care, demonstrative love, deep affection. With this broken arm, he's desiring close familial ties, albeit from the staff, but can't ask "out loud" for it. He's not supposed to do that.
Yes and this is why he's attached to Camilla the way he is. By all accounts she tends to mother, support and nurture him in the ways he craves and desires. The things he never experienced as a child from his own mother, because she was very busy with her responsibilities as Queen.
Your coverage of this book provides insight into how William and Harry really grew up. Maybe if Harry had been brighter he would have chosen a better path, as William did.
Highgrove belongs to Charles and had nothing to do with his mother. The King is known not to change anything he doesn't think needs to be. He has ancient shoes and clothes.
@@ontherocksredrose while Highgrove, the buildings, the gardens, the farm have all been created or improved by Charles, the property is owned by the Dutchy of Cornwall. William is now the Duke of Cornwall and therefore the property would be under his guardianship. No doubt there is an arrangement whereby it will remain Charles’ country estate for his lifetime. I think this would be one of the reasons Camilla will keep Ray Mill, her country home.
I think King Edward VI died too early. Elizabeth got thrown into the job before she was ready and didn’t have time to mentor Charles when he was a chid. She made a point of spending time with William and teaching him some of these finer details (how to treat staff), but she didn’t get the chance to do that with Charles.
I’m tickled I found you on UA-cam! This book is great! I’ve loved all of it; I’m so sad and disappointed that Diana was not the person she seemed to be. That has been surprising, but I see where Harry got the idea he can treat people he deems not as good as himself so badly. He learned it from her, so sad to say. Can’t wait for the Kennedy book!
On the matter of Highgrove's main kitchen and one of it's bathrooms not as you expected, upper class historic homes did not often treat these rooms as anything more than practical spaces. Refinement and comfort would likely be reserved for entertainment areas. Recall an old friend's kitchen had open shelves, ovens and stoves in prominent places, utensils displayed in great numbers openly here and there. There was no desire to eat in a kitchen, it was where the cooks did their work.
Regarding the kitchen, in the 1980’s most kitchens had Formica countertops. I toured an older (1900-ish) kitchen that had wooden counters. Granite and then marble didn’t become a thing until around Y2K. HGTV and all the decorating shows started about the same time. (I’m old enough to remember all this 😂)
Very basic kitchens with scrubbed wooden bench tops were commonplace in all great houses at the time, and kitchen implements, basic. Great cooks did not need all the gadgets kitchens are stocked with today. I remember watching that great show…Two Fat Ladies….what they could do with a bowl and a spoon! Sadly today, kitchens need to look like there is a master chef in residence. I was surprised that they relied on a microwave so much…as at that time there were doctors and scientists voicing caution. I particularly remember a scientist who was involved with radar invention saying he would only eat microwave cooked food when it was cold.
@@cathmay6429 LOL, as I’ve gotten older and become a more experienced (amateur) cook, I’ve decreased the number of gadgets in my kitchen. I used to fall for all the promises of “make this task simple with our new gadget.” Now I know they really don’t do anything that I can’t do on a regular stove or cooktop. It reduces the clutter on my countertops!
That kitchen wasn’t built for show. Typical of grand country houses of the era. It was built for staff to work in. I think I’d rather have it than any pristine marble wonder on instagram.
I like it. I hate fitted kitchens.. give me a good Welsh dresser any time. Some kitchens look more like operating theatres these days. No thanks. And I would want that bath, but ditto for bathrooms.. all boring and samey.
I know, but that kitchen looks positively dinky! Considering the number of people who have to be cooked for, and the fancy dishes that must go with all the entertaining, it looks very inadequate. I'd have expected a big, vaulted room 20 feet long with a giant table down the middle for food preparation. (Seen too many movies, I guess.)
Wood decays, Formica gets scratched, marble gets stained. I like low-maintenance quartz kitchen surfaces, but if budget were no issue and I was cooking for formal dinners, I would go with restaurant-quality stainless steel work surfaces.
I will play the devils advocate here. Whats wrong with asking someone to go fetch food from "town" instead of a home cooked meal?? I literally got off the phone with my husband. He and my oldest daughter are out having quality time. He said Im bringing home dinner is this ok? Im like yup. So he's over an hour away and he will bring home dinner to me ...the "chef" doesn't have to cook. (although he does almost 99% of the cooking ) lol😆nothing wrong with wanting a change in menu.
@@cheeredenise and?? same thing. What is he supposed to do if he has cravings?? If he wants a certain meal then sure why not he has the means so?? Im pretty sure that 3rd world country folk look at us middle class and think really??? you all throw out left overs or have large homes and not just 1 car?? So we can be curious about how the extreme live but not comprehend or imagine how this would be like and Im pretty sure 3rd world people look at the middle class Americans and how spoilt they are.
@@6422022thank you. I live in the UK and my brother is in the US. He finds the US a "throw away" nation, while here in the UK we keep everything for decades🤣
They seem like any ordinary couple going through the throws of the end of their relationship. The difference being they involve a lot of other people and the media.. The children, will always know what is going on. ( I speak from a childhood experience on this one). We can look back in retrospect, knowing the outcome of all this hurt and pain on both sides. Everyone is a victim in one way or another, a victim of wrong decisions, unsuitable partnerships and selfish spiteful rhetoric. It was time for them to move on and for everyone to find happiness. Which maybe they did. The elephant in the room being Harry. He is raking all this trauma up again to cause as much pain as possible. Glass houses and stones spring to mind.
It appears the time Charles spent with his sons was filled with love and affection. Harry however, fantasized about killing his father, as stated in, 'SpareUs'. Perhaps Harry should read this book. Maybe that's what the extra 20 pages are for, so Harry could get out his crayons and draw some memories triggered by Wendy's first hand accounts of their earlier life.
Harry constantly laments about Charles and Camilla’s affair and paints Camilla to be wicked, but he conveniently forgets that Diana was the only parent who used him and William as pawns in her affair/s.
At the time Harry may have been too young to
know what was going on. Meanwhile, Diana
was confiding in William (so he knew exactly
what was going on). All of Charles' friends
knew about Camilla (as did her husband -- they
had an open marriage) Andrew Parker-Bowles
was fine with it until it became general knowledge to the public. That is when he filed
for divorce. Dale "Kanga" Tyron's husband also
filed for divorce. Charles was going on with his
wife on/off for several years. Dale was not as
discrete as Camilla
I have come to really like Camilla. I think she is perfect for Charles!
@@conniecooley5542 Me too. She has been such a support to Charles and she’s completely dedicated to her role.
My understanding is that Diana had 12 known affairs with this James being the second. Some of them were married men with families.
And let’s not forget that Harry was sleeping with his wife when she was so deeply in a relationship- the chef that his parents were expecting a proposal announcement any time.
It’s a shame Harry will never read these books or the one by the foot man that VRS is doing atm.
There are things my 8 - 10 year old self knew about both of my parents that I didn’t work out what they actually were until I was an adult myself. & I never dared ask them when they were alive but have had them confirmed by relatives since.
Harry’s Emotional Intelligence, quite apart from his brain chemistry being so out of whack, is so low that he’d probably, these days, blame the British press now he’s laid off his family for a while.
He obviously has been trained by the Palace and the army to take orders so is actually listening to his PR advisors & has found something else to blame while the family is ill.
@@conniecooley5542me too! And what a love story they are!
Trust me, no one cared about the waste back in the 80s. Charles was ahead of his time in the mainstream talking about organic food and recycling etc. I remember them taking the mickey in the newspapers but we don't think twice about it now
I'm proud to say my parents composted and recycled in the 60's & 70's. My Dad grew up on a farm and both of them had had hard times in their childhood.
I lived over there in my teens and remember the papers ridiculing him over this stuff. In so many ways he was far ahead of his time.
Which really cracked me up when Harry said his wife introduced him to organic food & healthy diets - like you seriously didn’t pay any attention to what was going on around you, did you? Or he was lying, either is possible with him.
I do trust you and I also remember that it was a big deal in early 80’s when bottle deposits came back. I thought it was cool that some of the things people labeled weird like composting are fairly mainstream now!
Except he was ‘organic’ only about certain things. He still had all the gifts sent to the boys burnt, instead of donated to an orphanage or hospital.
@flowermeerkat6827 same with my parents. they were poor immigrants here, so we had to make do with what we could afford. They grew things in the garden when we moved into a house.
After listening to this book I understand why Prince William and his family live in Adelaide Cottage- a four bedroom house on Windsor Estate- they can have a private life with minimum staff when the children are young. More like Catherine’s childhood than William’s
… and William, Catherine, and the children cook a lot of their own meals!
I read that Catherine had the idea to move to Adelaide Cottage to be closer to Her Majesty in her last years.
Kitchen??? That looks like a wood shop!😂
@Margot52430 that wasn't Adelaide Cottage
@@Sandi-zh2wx I never said it was?? What are you talking about?
I'm so enjoying this book, thank you! Yes, your comment about how Charles had a special closeness to Harry truly was heartbreaking. If Charles had this perception of their relationship for much of his life, only to suddenly feel so deeply hurt and betrayed after marrying Meg, having walked her down the aisle as a kind gesture and having immediately offered to escort Doria out of the Church following the wedding ceremony, and his genuine efforts of welcoming acceptance to the Royal family, the cruelty and depth of pain must have felt unfathomable. That one sentence alone of the special bond shared reminded me of the true father-son relationship and his understandable reluctance to completely close off the possibility to mend relations in the future. Not only has he been grieving the loss of his father, his mother, his suddenly distant son, the internal thoughts and terror of how he might have been able to protect all of them from the horrors of Meg. He's King without sharing such a remarkable experience with Harry and the grief of not having the opportunity to perhaps develop a meaningful relationship with Harry's children, should they exist, whilst also coping with his own cancer diagnosis and concern for a life possibly shorter than hoped, and excessive anxiety over the health of his much loved daughter in law. These, all after having survived the rebuilding of his own public image after the loss of Diana and his likely personal anguish, guilt, shame, pain and regret over how he might have behaved differently during those tumultuous years they were together. King Charles is actually quite the pillar of strength in many ways when reflecting upon his experiences so far.
It's heartbreaking. And Thomas Markel pines for his daughter, whom he claims changed since she got with Harry. I think she changed long before that, when she was mailing wedding rings back to her husband to announce she was filing for divorce.
Perfectly said!!
@@Arsewell-Foundationmeghan was awful as a child, you can just see from the photos. Pulling faces at her father as he takes her on yet another trip. A spoiled-rotten little hussy. She was lording it over kids at a birthday party insisting SHE was a princess and it wasn’t even her birthday party! She was about 9!!
Your last sentence I feel is so true! I did not know this before. Thanks
Even before that...@@Arsewell-Foundation
Wonderful! I am beginning to realise that Harry might not have been completely wring about the similarity between his wife and his mother - it's just that Diana's "exterior face" was way more appealing than Meghan's.......
Ragland studied everything about Diana. She throughly researched Diana so she could seem similar.
Ragland is a professional fake!
Meghan doesn’t know how to hide the demons within - or simply cant be bothered
We have social media now. I think Diana would have been called out more if we had Twitter back then.
I was thinking as something similar when Diana was sobbing on stairs. Didn't she do that in an earlier chapter? Was that the sobbing on the floor equivalent?
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Charles had very physically active life with playing polo, shooting, gardening and he also liked painting now he couldn't do all of this for months.
It was serious injury. Doctors were afraid that charles might loose his right hand.
He went under 3 surgeries in a year.
Plus he didn't take pain killer.
He could but he’s a cuckoo homeopath banana. Anyone who learns the principles of homeopathy and doesn’t realize there’s more dog poo, acid, antibiotics, backwash, and whatever else in tiny quantities than whatever medicine you intentionally diluted to a millionth power is asking for pain. He had great anecdotal evidence from his beloved grandma living to 101, etc. but that every generation of Royals have given Warrants to homeopaths is just stupid.
As well it was 40 plus years ago. Medicine changes so much in a 10-year period. I am sure things are different now.
If you choose not to take pain killers then it’s selfish to complain about the pain all the time. No one can do anything about it if you refuse help.
@@MaryR1231 not so much in orthopedics actually for the same injury he would have received the same treatment. Pining and plating the bones together with a bone graft from his hip
@GMK379 he believed/believes in homoeopathy. I guess it didn't work for him that time.
The bedroom situation was, I think, typical of the upper classes at the time it was built. The master’s bedroom was his private space. He and his wife shared the master bedroom. The master’s room with the single bed was used when the mistress of the house was sick, pregnant, giving birth, recuperating from giving birth, nursing, having her period, or when the master went out for the evening and was planning to come home late. The gentlemanly thing to do was to let her sleep undisturbed while you spent the night in your closet. Or in town.
That makes things a little clearer.
I love your little "side bars"!!! Also, bring on the long episodes. I could listen to you for hours! Keep up the good work!!
agree!
I always enjoy the longer videos...and so sad when it's over. At the end of the video is usually me saying: noooooooooooooooooo noooooooo! Thank you for another entertaining episode, Cheere!! Until next time...... ❤❤❤
Diana was never going to be a parent who wanted her children to expand their minds or develop and grow because she wanted them to stay at her level of immaturity so she could relate to them on her own terms.
Excellent point. Explains why she insisted on spoiling Harry to where he now has arrested development. I'm starting to think that Diana had arrested development too.
At the time, this was played as "Look what a good mother Diana is!" Much was also made of the fact that when they were visiting her, she took them out to McDonald's for meals. It was a way of putting down the sort of life they had when they were with their father, as if that was so stifling and unnatural. Mark Steyn wrote that nobody would praise the single mother in a council flat for feeding her kids fast food instead of home-cooked meals, but when Diana did it it was supposed to be a mark of her sincerity and down-to-earth quality. "Breath of fresh air" and all that.
Very good observation! Makes a lot of sense!!!
Which is why she liked children so much in the first place, I guess.
@@ShakeDownStreet0714I agree
I admire King Charles so much and really resent the fact the Diana is still seen by so many as a saint. Thanks for your insightful comments ❤
I love, love, love your take on these books Cheere Denise! But please cut Charles some slack. According to a NHS nurse, he broke his elbow, not his arm. He had a THREE HOUR Surgery to try to fix it, and was hospitalized for a week. Apparently the whole thing was downplayed greatly at the time. I personally don’t see any advantage to concealing the severity of the injury, as then the door was opened for folks to call him a big baby. But you’re damned if you do reveal everything to the public, and damned if you don’t. Publicity is toxic.
I'm, looking at the book on the screen and it says "arm".
I’ve heard that the famous “toothpaste on the toothbrush” requirement comes from this time. KC is bad mouthed sometimes for requiring servants to prepare his toothbrush with toothpaste on it, but I’ve heard it was only during the time of his recovery and his arm being out of commission, not something required the rest of his life.
(allegedly, imo).
Charles had two fractures in his humerus (upper arm bone). One was in the mid shaft and the other one was near the elbow. The one near the elbow failed to unite and was operated upon after two months. They took a bone graft from his thigh bone and placed the graft and a metal plate to induce union. It was a major bone morbidity. If not treated well, such things cause permanent deformity.
Wow, that would be very painful
Diana was mercurial, and it was hard to know where you would stand with her, whereas with Camilla was stable, friendly and funny, a much more likeable character.
I have always liked Camilla. She looks as she is made of strong stuff. I saw her once shopping and she couldn't care less about what her people were recommending her.
Camilla is calm. It would take a lot to ruffle her feathers.
After hearing about Diana’s real character, I think that Harry is 100% correct and Meghan IS like his mother: manipulative, calculating, cruel, and superficial.
And dramatic and self serving while putting on a facade of selflessness. Her unstable emotional state also reminds him of his mother. Sadly he’s chosen that in a wife as he’s comfortable with this scenario.
She was dramatic and manipulative, but I don't know about cruel. Surely she was selfishly mean at times, but Meghan has this special air of destruction around her that Diana didn't have.
@@sarahhunter1114 She was often cruel to staff.
She was a narcissist. Just like TOW. There's nothing TOW is doing that TO's mother hadn't done thirty years ago. And mostly gotten away with.
I'm just now thinking that same thought. Such a shame people have made Diana into a Saint. Although, if Diana were still alive, I bet Harry and Meghan would have turned against her too. Meghan would have been so jealous of Diana.
Your face CRACKS ME UP with your reactions. Hilarious
Said it before. The BEST EYEROLL EVERR. Thank you Cheere.
Ooooh! THAT’s how Meg knew the Queen’s private nickname! She DID read this book in anticipation of joining the Royal family. Ughhhh. There is no way she found this out organically - no one ever trusted her.
That name had been used by Dickie Mountbatten to refer to her long before she was Queen. I think that once she was Queen she was too important to trivialize with nicknames from her past but other people did refer to her by that name who were family friends.
I knew that was her nickname from a very young age. It seemed like common knowledge. I'm Australian and there were always articles in magazines and newspapers on the Royals. Maybe that's the difference?
Actually, it was the Queens childhood nickname, used by her parents, sister and of course all relatives and close friends. I somehow seem to have known it forever, so it was not a secret. Perhaps The Little Princesses book was the first time it was seen by the general public.
@@LadyCat183 Meghan was expecting when Prince Philip died. On the coffin on a simple card attached to the only flower wreath, was the name Lilibet. Here was another chance to get at the Queen, she could show her lack of respect and take another thing from her.
@@cathmay6429 right, so the b#&ch did not have to have read this book. Actually, if it was not in big print on a computer I doubt she could have read anything 🙄🤣
Unfortunately for William I think Diana "confiding" in him impeded his relationship with his father.
Maybe as William grew older and particularly after Diana died he came to see the reality if the situation he'd been put in and accepted that it had been
Unfair towards his father. They seem quite close now 😊
Exactly this. Whether it was intentional or not she alienated William from his father from a very young age.
She was a self absorbed feckless mother.
I am so glad Charles has Camilla by his side now. She was always a far better match for him. Even without the age gap, he and Diana were so unsuited, add in her immaturity and dysfunction, it was a recipe for a disaster
Your students must love you! Your voice is so easy to listen to.
I love your reviews because you include the juicy bits no one else covers. It's the details people didn't know before. And I have to say ... You really nailed Diana's voice and accent. Sometimes when I hear that breathy English I look at my screen expecting to see her face. This book has been my favorite so far, but I can't wait to follow you into the Kennedy saga.
I've just bought the Kennedy book 'Ask Not'. Am itching to get into it..
I haven’t looked so forward to a book more than when we read the Traitor King! Happy Sunday everyone!!!
Right Bach to you!
Sheesh! That staff NDA was taking a real workout. Who on earth would sleep with their lover while their hubby is away and leave the evidence on the sheets for the staff to discover? Not only is it gross, but extremely indiscreet. I wasn't surprised to see such a shabby kitchen at Highgrove. I think Charles would have considered the kitchen as part of the staff quarters. I remember hearing a royal correspondent mention that Queen Elizabeth was surprised when she visited William and Catherine at Anmer Hall to see that the family spent time together around the kitchen table. She did not understand why they did not use their formal dining room for eating family meals. I like to think of George, Charlotte and Louis helping to prepare family meals while chatting away about their day...such a sweet family!
None of them are preparing family meals.
I remember reading that too. The Queen couldn’t understand why they spent time in the kitchen. To her it was a work place for staff
I havent seen sheesh in a long time. Did we use it in the 1960s?
@@hilaryjohns4049 I was born in the early 60's, so I guess I must have grown up hearing that word - LOL! 😊
@@misscoutts6193 I remember Princess Catherine telling Mary Berry that her children love helping her to make pizza, and she said she enjoys cooking for her family. She bakes and decorates their birthday cakes, too!
No....don't want this book to end. Your narration is fascinating. 😮and APPALLING!!
@pameladigaetano8119, What is it about her narration that you find appalling?
@Tamara-mm7us Oh no I am so sorry I didn't mean my comment to mean anything negative ......the information is appalling. Learning all these new aspects of Diana and Charles ' actions and what they are REALLY like is appalling. I apologize for being clumsy in my writing. I appreciate and admire Chere Denise. Her accents are probably the best I have ever heard. She sounds exactly like Diana. It is spooky! Thank you for giving me the opportunity to clear this matter up. I want everyone to understand exactly what I mean.
@@pameladigaetano8119 It’s all good. I wasn’t sure, so I thought I would ask. This book has some wild insights that I wasn’t expecting! ♥️
@Tamara-mm7us wonderful. Thank you. Happy Monday! (heavy sarcasm. ) LOL 😆
@@pameladigaetano8119 ♥️😂
Love this book and your coverage of it. Such a tragedy knowing what we know now. I'm more and more impressed with William the more i learn about the family. How he's not a basket case is a miracle
He could be but we dont know about it😅 We'd no idea how mental Harry was remember 😊
@@lizziestevenson1908 o dont😅😅😅.. I hope one day we aren't all listening to Cheere reading a book about William being mad this whole time and Catherine being a bitch from hell😅😅😅😅.
Fortunately, I think they are pretty genuine.
Diana had the Camilla affair to keep people on her side and cut her some slack who had seen through her long ago.
Without that she would have lost a lot of sympathy.
Gawd. I’m only 8 minutes in & already the thought of more children into the mix fills me with HORROR.
This is obviously a marriage of HUGE dysfunction and it’s been said that Diana displayed a number of narcissistic traits .
I can speak from experience, my ex narc I’m convinced got me pregnant on purpose looking back 45 years ago so I’d marry & said he was happy with one but ended up with 3 in 2.5 years and 5 years later when he knew he was losing me deliberately got me pregnant again with the 4th. I was gone before she was 3yo.
There’s NOTHING more stressful than introducing another child into a toxic relationship no matter who you are.
He deliberately got you pregnant? Is that due to the fact that you knew nothing about birth control?
@@naps4allThat was what I thought. Your partner can't make you pregnant if you are not a willing participant, unless you are forced, 4 times?
What about birth control methods?
Diana was definitely no Angel
True, she was just a complicated person like we all are. I don’t like to see anyone get put on a pedestal nor torn down from one. Diana coverage in general tends to make me sad for these reasons. But Cheere’s Diana voice makes it worth it-I don’t know WHERE she pulled it from but it is AMAZING!
@@m-alexandria-g so now if it's in vogue to smear Diana...how sad as everyone's complicated. Yet Diana had compassion all have attested plus a quick wit. Insecure from her own childhood but many people are.
@@lonestarbellepk agreed… I’m sad to see the cycle reach the point where we blame her for not being better when she had zero examples of how to behave within a family unit from the time she was an infant, and then she did her best but all she knew was this romantic fantasy… tbh I think Charles really admires Lord Byron, too… I think the reason he was so tight with Jimmy Saville, etc. is because he believed in the “classical education” AKA I think he was/is into little boys and that Camilla is his soulmate because she isn’t as disturbed by that as Diana was. No one wants to talk the real dirty dirt on Charles. I like him in a vacuum but I think the reason Diana felt desperate was because of things she never admitted, she just talked (and cried) around it all when she could have absolutely destroyed him
You’ve heard the old cliche: The rich are different?
Well, the Royals are even MORE different!
Definitely. I’ve never envied their lives and I envy them even less now.
And Meghan EVEN MORE!
@@xiaomoogle MM is neither royal nor rich. DOES NOT APPLY TO HER.
@@mimib95I only envy their financial status.
Thank you so much for taping during your vacation, Denise! I'm sitting with my service dog with my morning cup of coffee, and we're happily listening!!😊❤
This just might be my favorite book yet! I really like how the housekeeper seems to like them both while also being aware of both of their idiosyncrasies and personality traits.
Harry really did marry his mother
I've been the overnight guest of a few châtelains here in France during my 40+ years of residence here, and I'll always remember how shocked I was (this was actually a palatial apartment in the 16e arrondissement of Paris) the first time I walked from the splendor of the ancient tapestries, oil paintings and furniture of the main living room, down the hallway, and into the kitchen. It was very big, but it was SO sort of impoverished looking! I had no words. And this happened again and again during later trips to friends' chateaux. I think it was a leftover from the days of servants and their not "deserving" of pretty environments or something.
Had I thought about it, I would have assumed that royal residences have restaurant-quality, stainless-steel-work-surface kitchens. The old, out of date, difficult to use kitchens are horrific. It’s not being thrifty if you are making someone else manage the inconvenience!
Kitchens were working rooms and the owners didn't care much for them. Although I would have expected things to have been better in France than in Britain. Guess I was wrong 🤣.
Charles did commit adultry he owned up to it and never threw Diana under the bus about all her affairs. He also was with one women and he ended up marrying her.(Not to say he shouldnt be held accountable for his wrong doings)In my opinion he is a much more stand up person compared to Diana's sneeky ways of acting like a victim constantly. It's so much easier for me to understand Harry's mental issues. She manipulated him and tried to do the same with William but he grew up and matured unlike his younger sibling. Its amazing to me how she used the "horrible" media to her advantage and made herself out to me this innocent naive poor unaware princess. She never took enough or any blame for how her life ended up. Its not to say it was all her fault in anyway that her married life was not a happy one. But i also think she was a very spoiled immature and majorly self centered young woman.
Good point. Diana never hinted in all her confessions that maybe she was lacking in some areas and wasn’t all that Charles needed either or that she also treated him badly at times. She only made herself look like the victim in the marriage rather than also admitting that she may have been a little too eager to accept the royal trappings without having the necessary maturity for such a marriage. She wanted to be pitied and for people to demonize Charles rather than admitting, as Charles did, that they were simply non compatible people through no fault of their own. While I recognize Diana’s unhappiness, it’s hard to fully empathize with her because of her constant self pity parties and not taking responsibility for her part why the marriage failed. Charles never discussed her violent outbursts or tried to allude to her emotional instability while Diana painted him as a very emotionally cruel man who was hurting her on purpose. I think Charles was for sure not prepared to deal with Diana’s complexities but I don’t think he was trying to be cruel to her and his avoidance was a way of coping. It was Charles who wanted the separation and eventually the divorce, Diana never wanted to be “set free” from the marriage as that would have meant giving up her status. I think it’s a mistake not to wonder why Diana if she was so terribly unhappy and desperate didn’t make the first step to ask for the divorce. As a young, aristocratic, rich woman with her own fame, beauty and public interest she was in no shortage of suitors to find a happier life. She clearly didn’t love Charles anymore but she didn’t want to stop being his wife. In the end it was Charles who did the honorable thing at a great cost to himself and put a stop to the charade.
She was a madam behind the scenes.
He had a series of women. Camilla was just the one that stuck around. It was literally the reason why every other woman he proposed to before Diana, turned him down. Because of his womanizing ways. Diana was actually picked by Camilla to date because she was so young, naive, dumb, and unknowing about that side of him until it was too late. The perfect wife to put in so they can have their affairs, right?
It's still adultery him admitting it doesn't make It ok
@@YmustTh3w0rldG0r0und What are you talking about. Diana grew up on the Sandringham Estate, Diana's father was an Equerry. Her family home, Althorp was a stately mansion, which will continue to be in the family, for generations to come, as it's inherited, along with her father's title of Earl. She wasn't some naive child, yes young. She had her own apartment in London for a couple of year's, before she married. She knew exactly what she was getting into, she didn't need Camilla to set her up with Charles, her own sister dated him. It was her world, they were aristocrats.
I liked the part where all the family is at dinner talking about Charles ears. So many inferences and observations packed into that simple tale. Wendy has penned an historical tome. Thank you sooo much for bringing it to us, along with all your insightful explanations. ❤
Please, consider adding to your book queue "The Little Princesses" by Marion Crawford which was the governess to Queen Elizabeth and Princess Margaret. I saw a documentary about it. It seems quite interesting. We appreciate all of your thoughtfully created content. Thanks in advance.
It is a wonderful book, it’s a real shame that Ms Crawford faced such rejection from the family for writing it. The Royals demand so much loyalty but rarely return it.
Isn't the book a little over sweet and old fashioned by now? I do feel Crawfie was badly treated but I have no interest I the book. I would probably have loved it when I was 16.
She was already having affairs ..plural... before Charles & Camilla got back together. I loathed her and the way she used her children and lost several friends over my thought on this. In the 80s Charles was way ahead of the world inregard to environmental issues and was constantly & openly mocked by the press for his views
Oh, perfect timing, I've just got a coffee. Absolutely love your story telling and accents, thanks Cheere xx
Same Jo...I love Cheere❤❤❤❤
Camilla was well-liked by those within her social group from the time she was a teen. That is why they were so willing to protect her
and Charles' relationship (being the PoW contributed to their willingness to aid him too)
Royals and aristocrats often married for political, dynastic and financial reasons. All were aware of this fact and therefore affairs were considered normal. Discretion was all that was required. One of the reasons for grand houses having many rooms
Corridor creepers!
The SELF CONTROL it is taking me not to start watching this but to go to bed like I SHOULD...
Go to bed???!!
I’m on my way to church!
@@HarrietCraig323 It's nearly 11pm for me, lol
@@alexilupin same here, are you from Straya too?
@@TOBY-P74 I see you've played knifey spooney before!
Gone to bed, its11.30 here in NSW Australia listening with earphones.
How lovely, I love your narration..❤🎉🎉😊
What I enjoy most are your remarks. You crack me up. Diana was always exhausted due to bulemia. Woof! Electrolytes unbalanced, weight loss that's visible. Yikes.
Yet she doesn't think that would effect Diana's emotions 🙄
Don't stop talking!!! It's part of the best part❤
Agreed ❤❤❤
Just perfect for a lazy Sunday afternoon’s listening here in the sunny south west of England. Thank you so much for all your hard work making these super entertaining videos!
I feel like Diana preferred children because she was not really capable of adult company due to her intellectual laziness. She seems to have been very dull to be around.
Yes, Diana and Harry were both dumb. People gave her a pass because of her looks. Although she is just average to me. Catherine is way better looking. Also not crazy. William got his brains from his Dad. Thank God.
I winced a bit hearing that she asked her guests what TV shows they watched. I guess talking politics was out, since Royals aren’t supposed to share their views. But couldn’t she have gotten up to speed on news stories? Sometimes having a real hobby is good for making conversation, too.
Very enjoyable reading. You may wish to consider Sally Bedell Smith’s Diana: In search of herself for your next reading. She uses newspaper articles and over a hundred interviews of people near the royal couple to tell the story. Diana fans generally don’t like the book but it’s a good read.
I just looked it up on Amazon. There is no kindle version. Hardcover is $80.82 and paperback $142.47. I might just have to keep an eye out for a second hand copy! She has written others that look interesting too....one on the late Queen's parents, for example.
I found it on a second hand book site in Australia for under $35. Purchased and I can't wait to read it.
I agree about the meal bit...I get perturbed when I male a meal and my husband doesn't sit right down when it's ready! I totally agree!
Mine STILL does this! He eats alone now, and maybe that’s what it took dim me, to finally give him what he’d been ‘asking’ for.
James Hewitt's mother has spoken about William and Harry carrying in the dinner trays for James and Diana when they would visit for weekends at her house.
Diana should have been less selfish and kept her affair separate. It's not great, not a good example to set.
Bizarre. Didn't the mother think it strange and not want her son to marry a normal young lady? Wasn't Hewitt engaged I recall seeing on the front of a tabloid. 🤔
@@misscoutts6193 Oliver Hoare had a wife and children. Will Carling was newly married. At the end, Dodi Al Fayed had a 'fiancé' o another yacht nearby. Diana didn't let that interfere with what/who she wanted.
@@suzanking5625 there's more, James Gilby of the "Squidgygate" tape was engaged; as was Hewitt.
@@misscoutts6193 And, there would have been dozens more. She wanted what she wanted and never worried about who she was hurting.
Perfect companion to my Sunday morning coffee! Ty!
Oooh, there’s another Housekeeper’s Diary episode…yay!!!!
I love every book you read. I even rewatch the videos multiple times.
Same! I always feel like I pick up new details!
I’m truly enjoying this book with you. I think your comments are spot on. Much success to you!
It wasn’t just a normal break, he had to have specialist treatment and was transferred to a specialist treatment in Nottingham, definitely didn’t make more of it than it needed. I think he had numerous treatments
Let’s not forget that James Hewitt was Diana’s second love affair…allegedly of course.
From my reading she had at least 12 provable ones, usually smuggled into the boot of a car.
Ugh. The indignity of it. Those men must have been desperate with several married with families OR she was off the charts great in the sack.
I think the draw to diana was that these men (her lovers) could say, i slept with princess Diana.
They just wanted to brag about sleeping with future Queen.
@@ptrpan61I think you are right. They all bailed as soon as she got too intense. I feel sorry for her, she really was desperate for affection, something she never had.
She was a trophy and a shower for the ego.
Sounds like a very, very immature person who appeared to have been afflicted with an arrested development.
Wait until y'all find out that she took the children to Hewitt's mother's house and spent countless weekends there with him. But Charles is the bad guy who never introduced his children to Camilla until the 2000s
It was known by the locals in Ebsford, where Shirley Hewitt lived, that Diana was a frequent visitor before Harry was born….locals aren’t stupid.
When James Hewitt grew tired of her relentless neediness and ended the affair she deliberately ruined his life. She was just awful. Breaking up marriages, over 1,000 silent calls to the wife of one of her lovers.
@@helenjackson3490 what did she do to Hewitt?
@@debbydouglas759 when James Hewitt wanted out of the relationship Diana was furious and so she declared to the world in her true victimhood fashion that he had betrayed her. Then she went on to have a liaison with a member of the aristocracy to whom Harry bears a very striking resemblance.
@@helenjackson3490 Oh yes , I’d forgotten, she did that in the famous tell all. But I thought she had her affair with Hewitt after Harry was born? Also if you look at pictures of Harry & a young Prince Philip they look amazingly alike so I think he is a Windsor . His temperament is definitely Spencer though as is Diana’s.
@@debbydouglas759 Diana had an affair (allegedly) with the Earl of Pembroke and Harry is the double of him.
Darlin, the reason for the video of the lady functioning with her feet was for us to admire the way she overcame adversity. It wasn't for you to pile shame on yourself. You do really well. You have basically two jobs if you consider your channel. You get up really early, get fully dressed and have your hair and makeup looking great on your videos and that's all before most people wake up. Not to mention you being a wife and mother- that in itself is a full-time job. Just admire the armless lady and for God's sake give yourself praise and a break!! God bless you C. Denise!! Heck, I started to feel ashamed watching you one time...but I'm a bit too lazy for shame. 😂😂😂
I have sewed for years. Now it takes an effort to even see the eye on the needle 😂
Totally agree with you. Cheere does 100 times more in a day than I do in a week.
I think the thing with his arm is that he was an elite athlete. Amongst the best in the world at polo and a lot of his friends were with the polo set. I think he was scared sick that Diana or his mother were going to insist on him stoping playing .
Which was a real scare , he didn’t want to do do that and be stuck being future king and nothing else
It would be the best interest of the King to allow this book to be published in the UK. Sure, he would be criticized for some of his deeds, but so would be Saint Diana, and Harry's central argument about a cold, unloving father would be shot down for once and for all. It would also help people better understand the agony Harry caused him during the time he lost his father, mother, going through cancer at the same time his beloved daughter-in-law does while taking on the responsibility of being King. That little pr Ickly prince single handedly torments him. He has been deeply hurt for years and still doesn't get much sympathy.
Sometimes we need a good whistleblower, non-disclosure agreement or not! I read it back in the day, and they really should do a re-print in the United States. If books get smuggled into the UK, so much the better. 😊
I agree. I’m from the UK and lived through these times. This book has been an eye opener for me. I had never previously heard about it. Thank you CD for featuring it.
I binge watched the first 7 episodes in 24 hours!
Charles comes out of the whole thing a lot better than his first wife. His kids are old enough to accept what happened. “Nil nisi bonum” can be carried too far.
He couldn't do that. He cannot make an exception for one book like this, while still trying to suppress others like it.
I think separate bedrooms save marriages! My paternal grandparents married in 1951, did that. Still alive, still married, still separate rooms. I married in 1993. Shared bedroom. Divorced in ‘98😂
🥰❤ Cheere, never apologize for "talking too much" because I LOVE your additions, thought and especially your expressions! Thank you for being SO entertaining! ❤💯
it's the absolute best part!!!
Loving this book with you
Diana an actually had a very quick wit and great sense of humor.
I’ve been completely enjoying this book. Thank you so much.
Ken Wharfe said that he liked James Hewitt and that he felt like he was good for Diana..He trusted James to not place her in a weird situation just to get pics taken by the Pap's..He said that when Diana was with James at that time she was extremely happy and that he tried not to judge the affair due to the fact that Diana was married to the one man that she technically couldn't divorce..
Now for money James Hewitt has sold 60+ love letters that Diana wrote to him.
@@krishnavyas313 I know...he's such a snake!
@@lisalivingston6473 Did he sell the letters? I know the Judge ruled in his favor and the letters were given back to Hewitt..I will admit that I was disappointed with his behavior but as we all know money talks..
@@judyholiday1794 I haven't heard that he sold the letters yet. Maybe he's having second thoughts or waiting for someone from Diana's family or circle of friends to buy them to protect her privacy and legacy.
James Hewitt has paid a high price for his involvement with Diana
This channel is the BEST! Thank you so much for adding narrative to it! I log on twice a day at least to check for new posts.
Couldn't wait for this next episode. Thank you for recording so soon. ❤
OMG, yes!!! I knew I should get up even though I got up before my alarm! Got my coffee and earbuds, let's do this!! ❤
@shortylucy I have my ear buds in!!!!
Same...Do Not Lollygaggle When I say, Food is READY
Thank you. Just back from the airport saying good bye to my darling niece ❤ saved me from being very sad
Oliver Hoare was one of Diana's lovers .
She was awful. I remember the scandal when it all happened. I think he was trying to exit and she went all bunny boiler on him , ringing his landline all night. Deranged! It was reported to Scotland Yard and miraculously his wife didn’t leave him.
Yes but their affair started in 1992 and ended in 1994.
Charles had arm surgeries in 1990
Diana was Oliver Hoare’s stalker. She made his life (and is wife’s) a nightmare for over a year before the harassing late night phone calls were traced to Diana’s private line at Kensington Palace by Scotland Yard.
300 calls in one night has been reported often.
Hmm….. I’m very conflicted about a lot of things, but now I see where Harry gets some of his…. Traits….
If you read Tom Bower’s book on Charles, ‘The Rebel Prince’ you’ll see where he gets the ‘grift’ from too.
@@judywright4241Tom Bower's books remind a bit of Kitty Kelly's books ....you'd think Charles had never done anything right ...they're just full of snark and pettiness
I much prefer the books written by people who actually knew them and were there, not the ones written by people who are really just guessing.
@@jackiejones690. I wish Kitty Kelley and Tom Bower would just do books on each other.
@@mauvegreenwisteria3645- Nice Idea 😹👍...
I don't want you to end this book!
Am so out of the Mountbattens, i need to speed up 😂!
Cheere, thank you. You rock!
I thought it was just me... I have tried with the Mountbattens, and u am sure its a great biography, but for one of the main characters of the 20th century in Britain, he is ultimately a very dull man.
The part I always like best is your animated commentary! 😄 Thanks and have a safe and wonderful vacation!
Thank you for this. I watched another channel review this book and enjoyed the take and angle of it. I didn't think I'd enjoy listening to it a second time but you have a great take on it too. Thank you. Thoroughly enjoyable and a lesson well learnt.
I'm so sad there is not much left in this book as I have loved it 😢 but I'm also looking forward to the Kennedy book, you are a great story teller ❤
I love love love....... your Diana voice you have it to a T love your readings x
Seems like Diana had a favorite son, and it wasn't Harry.
I don’t blame him milking his broken arm. He might get a bit of attention.
Yes! So wrong to use your kids like that...
Loving this book! ❤
Me too😊
Yes! Don't want it to end!!!
I made baked beans & potato salad for Repast today,, happy Sunday &. Thank you, I really enjoy listening to you and I just love your imitations
Dearest Cheere, I do so love your brilliant work. The best part today was about the lady who sewed her children's clothes with her feet. I was friends with a thalidomide baby, she was a foot painter and one of the most upbeat people you can imagine under the circumstances. I agree and it touched me deeply when you said, shouldn't I expect a bit more from myself (not quoting you exactly).❤You are a treasure and I look forward to every episode so much. Listen while I tend my plants..what a joy!
If I am not wrong, I have read somewhere that, Diana gifted James Hewitt sports car and high end clothes with Charles's money.
@@krishnavyas313 😵😵😵
I heard about the clothes...
@@pameladigaetano8119 car also because James didn't came from money and his sports car was way out of his pockets.
@@krishnavyas313 interesting 🤔
@krishnavyas313 to be fair, depending on the model, TVRs aren't necessarily as expensive as your usual sports cars suspects, my ex husband and I had one, it really wasn't that expensive,I was gutted when he sold it.
I think for Prince Charles as a Royal, people cooked and cleaned, all mechanical, capable, and thorough- at arms length. All his life was like that. But void of true care, demonstrative love, deep affection. With this broken arm, he's desiring close familial ties, albeit from the staff, but can't ask "out loud" for it. He's not supposed to do that.
Yes and this is why he's attached to Camilla the way he is. By all accounts she tends to mother, support and nurture him in the ways he craves and desires. The things he never experienced as a child from his own mother, because she was very busy with her responsibilities as Queen.
Now we see how similar harry is to Diana. Mental illness can be in ones dna, obvious with mother and your son.
Charles had a broken elbow which required a three hour surgical procedure.
Plus had to be re-broken too😱
Your coverage of this book provides insight into how William and Harry really grew up. Maybe if Harry had been brighter he would have chosen a better path, as William did.
I remember reading that Charles’ arm was broken badly, and he was older too
I believe with the late Queen reigning for so long, nothing was modernized. Hopefully, William will have a modem home for his children.
Highgrove belongs to Charles and had nothing to do with his mother. The King is known not to change anything he doesn't think needs to be. He has ancient shoes and clothes.
@@ontherocksredrose while Highgrove, the buildings, the gardens, the farm have all been created or improved by Charles, the property is owned by the Dutchy of Cornwall.
William is now the Duke of Cornwall and therefore the property would be under his guardianship. No doubt there is an arrangement whereby it will remain Charles’ country estate for his lifetime. I think this would be one of the reasons Camilla will keep Ray Mill, her country home.
I think King Edward VI died too early. Elizabeth got thrown into the job before she was ready and didn’t have time to mentor Charles when he was a chid. She made a point of spending time with William and teaching him some of these finer details (how to treat staff), but she didn’t get the chance to do that with Charles.
I’m tickled I found you on UA-cam! This book is great! I’ve loved all of it; I’m so sad and disappointed that Diana was not the person she seemed to be. That has been surprising, but I see where Harry got the idea he can treat people he deems not as good as himself so badly. He learned it from her, so sad to say. Can’t wait for the Kennedy book!
On the matter of Highgrove's main kitchen and one of it's bathrooms not as you expected, upper class historic homes did not often treat these rooms as anything more than practical spaces.
Refinement and comfort would likely be reserved for entertainment areas.
Recall an old friend's kitchen had open shelves, ovens and stoves in prominent places, utensils displayed in great numbers openly here and there. There was no desire to eat in a kitchen, it was where the cooks did their work.
Hmmm never thought about how it would be to live in a fishbowl like that, with servants knowing everything.
Why would Hewitt want all the complications?
The Queen was correct in her mantra " never complain, never explain".....the less we know about the royals, the better...
Regarding the kitchen, in the 1980’s most kitchens had Formica countertops. I toured an older (1900-ish) kitchen that had wooden counters. Granite and then marble didn’t become a thing until around Y2K. HGTV and all the decorating shows started about the same time. (I’m old enough to remember all this 😂)
Very basic kitchens with scrubbed wooden bench tops were commonplace in all great houses at the time, and kitchen implements, basic. Great cooks did not need all the gadgets kitchens are stocked with today. I remember watching that great show…Two Fat Ladies….what they could do with a bowl and a spoon! Sadly today, kitchens need to look like there is a master chef in residence. I was surprised that they relied on a microwave so much…as at that time there were doctors and scientists voicing caution. I particularly remember a scientist who was involved with radar invention saying he would only eat microwave cooked food when it was cold.
@@cathmay6429 LOL, as I’ve gotten older and become a more experienced (amateur) cook, I’ve decreased the number of gadgets in my kitchen. I used to fall for all the promises of “make this task simple with our new gadget.” Now I know they really don’t do anything that I can’t do on a regular stove or cooktop. It reduces the clutter on my countertops!
That kitchen wasn’t built for show. Typical of grand country houses of the era. It was built for staff to work in. I think I’d rather have it than any pristine marble wonder on instagram.
I like it. I hate fitted kitchens.. give me a good Welsh dresser any time.
Some kitchens look more like operating theatres these days. No thanks. And I would want that bath, but ditto for bathrooms.. all boring and samey.
I know, but that kitchen looks positively dinky! Considering the number of people who have to be cooked for, and the fancy dishes that must go with all the entertaining, it looks very inadequate. I'd have expected a big, vaulted room 20 feet long with a giant table down the middle for food preparation. (Seen too many movies, I guess.)
Wood decays, Formica gets scratched, marble gets stained. I like low-maintenance quartz kitchen surfaces, but if budget were no issue and I was cooking for formal dinners, I would go with restaurant-quality stainless steel work surfaces.
Harry has a golden halo over Diana and also deeply resents her.
I will play the devils advocate here. Whats wrong with asking someone to go fetch food from "town" instead of a home cooked meal?? I literally got off the phone with my husband. He and my oldest daughter are out having quality time. He said Im bringing home dinner is this ok? Im like yup. So he's over an hour away and he will bring home dinner to me ...the "chef" doesn't have to cook. (although he does almost 99% of the cooking ) lol😆nothing wrong with wanting a change in menu.
Well…I think “town” 90 miles away.
@@cheeredenise and?? same thing. What is he supposed to do if he has cravings?? If he wants a certain meal then sure why not he has the means so?? Im pretty sure that 3rd world country folk look at us middle class and think really??? you all throw out left overs or have large homes and not just 1 car?? So we can be curious about how the extreme live but not comprehend or imagine how this would be like and Im pretty sure 3rd world people look at the middle class Americans and how spoilt they are.
@@6422022thank you. I live in the UK and my brother is in the US. He finds the US a "throw away" nation, while here in the UK we keep everything for decades🤣
@@cheeredeniseTutbury is only about 2 miles away. London is probably about 90. 2 and a half hours in good traffic 😂
Well your daughter and husband aren’t going out of their way.
Thank you Cheere I’m loving this reading. Don’t change a thing ! We all enjoy your sidelines, thoughts and expressions 😅
They seem like any ordinary couple going through the throws of the end of their relationship. The difference being they involve a lot of other people and the media.. The children, will always know what is going on. ( I speak from a childhood experience on this one). We can look back in retrospect, knowing the outcome of all this hurt and pain on both sides. Everyone is a victim in one way or another, a victim of wrong decisions, unsuitable partnerships and selfish spiteful rhetoric. It was time for them to move on and for everyone to find happiness. Which maybe they did. The elephant in the room being Harry. He is raking all this trauma up again to cause as much pain as possible. Glass houses and stones spring to mind.
It appears the time Charles spent with his sons was filled with love and affection. Harry however, fantasized about killing his father, as stated in, 'SpareUs'. Perhaps Harry should read this book. Maybe that's what the extra 20 pages are for, so Harry could get out his crayons and draw some memories triggered by Wendy's first hand accounts of their earlier life.