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КОМЕНТАРІ • 26

  • @allanmarder456
    @allanmarder456 10 місяців тому +1

    I did a variation of method 1: After cross multiplying you get 2*(x^4) - 7(x^3) -7*x +2 =0 I didn''t to see the trick used in the video but I
    guessed there would be a bi-quadratic factoring and after some trial and error I tried [(x^2) +B*x +1)] [2*(x^2) +C*x +2] By equating coefficients with
    the quartic you get B=-4 and C=1 thus the quartic factors as (x^2 - 4*x +1)(2*(x^2) +x +2) Solving these two quadratics gives the answers in the video.

  • @mcwulf25
    @mcwulf25 10 місяців тому

    I did what you did at the end, dividing the polynomial by x^2.

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 10 місяців тому +2

    Set z=x+1/x and you get (z^2-2)/z=7/2.nice and very easy😃

  • @barberickarc3460
    @barberickarc3460 10 місяців тому

    For the life of me i couldn't find a clean way to solve this so i had to brute force through, it was very painful..
    After simplifying, we get 2(x^4) - 7(x^3) - 7x + 2 = 0
    Based of the 2, there's only so many ways this could be factored.
    I initially tried [ 2(x^2) + Ax + 1 ] [ x^2 + Bx + 2 ], but after solving the system you get a contradiction.
    Afterwards i did [ 2(x^2) + Ax + 2 ] [ x^2 + Bx + 1 ], it simplifies in to solving the system:
    { a + 2b = -7
    { ab = -4
    We get two solution sets:
    (a1, b1) = ( 1, - 4)
    (a2, b2) = ( -8, 1/2)
    After plugging back in we get the following :
    [ 2(x^2) + x + 2] [ x^2 -4x + 1]
    and
    [ 2(x^2) - 8x + 2] [ x^2 + x/2 + 1]
    Notice you can factor out a 2 from factor1 of the second equation and put it in factor2. Doing so will give us the first equation, meaning they are equivalent!
    Now since we have it in factored form, using the quadratic formula twice we get two real and two complex solutions
    X = 2 ± root(3)
    X = ¼ [ -1 ± i * root(15)]

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 10 місяців тому

    6^¼=x
    (2-6^¼)^⅓=x

  • @theelk801
    @theelk801 10 місяців тому

    x^4+1 can be factored over the reals as x^2-sqrt(2)x+1 and x^2+sqrt(2)x+1

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  10 місяців тому +1

      That's right!

  • @broytingaravsol
    @broytingaravsol 10 місяців тому +1

    x=(-1±√15i)/4, 2±√3

  • @septembrinol1
    @septembrinol1 10 місяців тому

    I learnt the method you used at the end for the symmetric quartic in 11th grade. Nobody seemed to know it in the US. Are you from abroad?

    • @scottleung9587
      @scottleung9587 10 місяців тому +1

      He was born and raised in Turkey, but now lives in the US.

    • @septembrinol1
      @septembrinol1 10 місяців тому

      thank you!
      @@scottleung9587

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  10 місяців тому +1

      you're right. not known widely in the US.

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  10 місяців тому +1

      👍😁

  • @OrenLikes
    @OrenLikes 10 місяців тому

    how do you get rid of the 4th power if you substitute x with y? did you mean x^2 by y? probably not...

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  10 місяців тому

      get rid of the 4th power?

    • @OrenLikes
      @OrenLikes 10 місяців тому

      @@SyberMath you said something about making the equation not of the 4th power, when you suggested replacing x with y, which does nothing to the power...

  • @OrenLikes
    @OrenLikes 10 місяців тому

    factoring after cross-multiplication = exercise in futility?!? :)

  • @misterdubity3073
    @misterdubity3073 10 місяців тому

    Missed joke opportunity: there are two t values - tea for two and two for tea

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  10 місяців тому

      Wow! That's a good one 🤩

    • @misterdubity3073
      @misterdubity3073 10 місяців тому

      @@SyberMath yeah, except that probably almost no one remembers that song

  • @bayedevilakazi6328
    @bayedevilakazi6328 10 місяців тому

    You sound like Cypher from matrix 😅

  • @trojanleo123
    @trojanleo123 10 місяців тому

    I used a "3rd method". When you cross multiply and divide by 2 you get
    x⁴ - x³.7/2 - x.7/2 + 1 = 0
    = (x² + ax + 1).(x² + bx + 1)
    a = 1/2 and b = -4
    You get two quadratic equations that can be solved to get the 4 roots (2 real and 2 complex) that you got.

  • @OrenLikes
    @OrenLikes 10 місяців тому

    Why do you use ∓ and not ±?
    Especially where in this video you got the first value of t by using the "bottom" + and wrote it "on top" and vice versa...

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  10 місяців тому

      I like ∓

    • @OrenLikes
      @OrenLikes 10 місяців тому

      @@SyberMath most people say "give or take", "plus or minus", and if not reading left to right, then top to bottom...