“sexual content” on Twitch
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2023
- Twitch changed their policy on certain kinds of sexual content/body parts (again). Some of this is fine, some of this is very weird, and some of it sucks.
Here's Twitch's official post: safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Up...
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This news is ALREADY out of date lol. I think a lot of what I said still stands, but here’s the update from twitch: safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Sexual-Content-Policy-Update?language=en_US
Tldr anyone?
@@yousufkhan1720TLDR= Nudity of any kind is still not allowed, except for M rated games, however that applies.
Watching this video and then reading that "we are rolling back the artistic nudity changes. " is just HILARIOUS.
@@WHOSBoobyBear ty
Game nudity makes sense
Elementary school also sometimes called grade school (K to 5th or 6th grade/year) is the US equivalent to primary school in AUS or the UK, as far as I know. Some school districts in the US have middle school (6th to 8th grade/year) and others have junior high school (7th to 9th grade/year) then high school will be the last 3 or 4 grades/years depending on if your school district has a middle school or a junior high school.
“No twerking at a wedding” is too specific not to have a story behind it
It has more than one even but I think they choose to not because of any story but to clearly illustrate how things will be influenced. This framing takes a lot of confusion out of when they will and not punish a creator.
Every wedding ever lol
"no twerking at a wedding" this place is a prison.
@@nicocortes5145 on planet bullshit
Who's streaming a wedding on Twitch?
The whole issue with all of this is that twitch is so damn inconsistent with enforcing anything and even enforce other things too harshly at times.
Definitely agree.
i mean yeah and that's due to unclear and inconsistent policies to begin with, which this should address
@@charalanahzardI think Alanah should start doing provocative things on cam. An example she can purposely put her barefeet crossed on her desk when she streams for all the foot freaks out there. She can wear skin tight clothing to show off her figure. Alanah dont be afraid to do this alot of people are paying alot of money. Every lady has a wild side 😈
so alanah you saying will do a twerk😉😅
No, they've been 100% consistent. The only consideration is "will it bring money?" If yes, let 'er rip.
I predicted this happening to Twitch since the app came to be. The more Twitched relaxed their rules, the more money came their way. Being a softcore porn site alongside a gaming site is far more lucrative than just being a gaming site.
Twitch is going to have a thriving "art" community.
Nah, that hot tub meta went away quick.
@@SageShini Hot tub =/= striptease
A throbbing art community
Watching a vtuber draw a dick on a waifu rn, we thriving thriving
@@iPickBadUsrnames😂😂😂😂
It's good to know we have serious people making serious money trying to figure out the acceptable form of twerking, and they have landed on the twerking at a wedding loophole.
😂😂😂
Imagine being the person who had to type this up.
Yeah bro I'm the guy that developed that clause in the twerking section! That's me right there I said the twerking was good in the context of marriage and love man.. lmao this is what happens when there are 0% interest rates you have these trillion dollar companies that are like 12 people eating mushrooms and Adderall on bean bag chairs developing a solid strategy to deal with twerking like wtf 😂🤣😆
My understanding was that sex scenes and nudity in games IS now allowed as long as the primary focus of the game isn't sexual (i.e. hentai games) and you aren't using any unofficial mods to cause nudity or sexual acts in the game. That's at least my understanding of their new terms, and I feel that is the perfect way to handle it.
Good, some one did point this out. I found it funny since that very thing was pointed out in the Question about nudity in gaming in this video at the 3 min 10 second mark.
As I heard it reported, with these labels, all the adult or sexual theme labels will no longer show up on the Home Page.
Yes, this is correct.
That's what the rules have always been
You are wrong. Tiddie streams need to be perms banned, sex mods should be fine , they literally allow hentai now
I feel in the modern era, this is not correct, as of now, I feel like sensuality in game is still a very soft spot for Western devs, so much so that they often try to avoid it, EG: Fable 2 protag. They tip toe around it as they feel like if they put it in their games, big daddy Blackrock or other investors will not invest in them causing them to lose out on cashflow. As I have seen from interviews, Mr Fink of Blackrock is pretty much bent on providing politics in video games and establishment of studios such as "Sweet Baby Inc" to artificially increase their ESG are forcing companies to play safe and not take creative liberties in Videogame character looks as much as I think they would like to.
I do enjoy Alanah's sophisticated, professional reading voice. 😂
She has amazing range 😄
She has a school teacher voice and looks like the substitute teacher we all would fall in love with 😅😂
When she uses it on twitch she's asked to use the sexual themes label.
It's a solid American accent.
@@JohannesVanDerStuyvebode Eyo WHY ARE ALL substitute teachers attractive women in their 20ies?
What the hell man!
It’s interesting. Amazon is in a position to make an interesting business move.
They can legitimize and make the porn industry even safer…. And it could make them a boat load of money.
Twitch needs to completely separate the two. Twitch Gaming and Twitch Chat. Keep it separate for advertisers. Keep it separate for users. Keep it separate for creators.
I don’t see how this could be a bad thing for anyone including Amazon.
Tbh I think this is a great idea. Separate sites.
While I think this makes sense, it also makes me think "Twitch Chat" would tank the ability of "Twitch Gaming" to sell ads. If Twitch becomes more publicly associated with the sex industry, that's just going to be what big advertisers see it as, regardless of the brand's own attempt at separation. As things are right now, gaming can still be at the fore when Twitch works with advertisers. But as you're pointing out, this is Amazon, and they can eat any cost they choose.
Exactly what i thought too, FC2 in Japan alredy does this and it's the largest streaming platofrm in Japan cause of it.
Twitch Gaming, and the second site can be called Twerk Chat. Brand recognition problem solved lol
@@burkedigitalI would assume it would be more beneficial for brands that align with that industry to advertise freely in twitch chat vs in twitch gaming which is a lot more restrictive no?
people are gonna push the boundaries more and more.
Probably but I remember the incel adjacent outrage about hot tub streams and when twitch put out the list of top streamers on the platform you had to scroll down to find the first hot tub streamer. The amount of "sexual content" is massively overblown
if there's about 30 woman on the platform, at least 24 of them are on the front page. I've never scrolled down twitch EVER. usually I watch people based on the game I'm playing. it's VERY rare I see someone on the front page I'm playing, I get cs2 and Warzone streamers on my front page yet i've never wanted to watch or have watched CS2 or WZ
@@npviking
the only reason they are pushing is because they know the rules doesnt apply equally on twitch. if they actually enforced their policys nobody would do this....
*women. Men couldnt get away with this shit on twitch, they've thrown out long term suspensions for tank tops and perma bans for no shirts
If I ever stream again, I'm going to sit the way the woman have been and just wear nothing but a pair of boxers, barely covering my weenie. maybe some nipple tassles XD
@@Mandingy24
Took a quick scroll through the art section this morning after reading about the change. Saw a thumbnail of someone modelling 3d monster dong. Another renaissance is upon us. Really complements all the tournaments channels in my follow list 😃
What I want, more than anything, is for some kind of control over whether I see a person's content on suggested videos or on the main dashboard. I see certain people that I have never watched and never intend to watch come up there repeatedly just because they have a large audience. I don't want to report them or anything (you do you) but I want the option not to see them there
Definitely same. I don’t like seeing it there.
agreed. Same here. SUPPOSEDLY the CCL will do that. Time will tell. You will have to excuse me being a bit skeptical when it comes to Twitch and what they say vs what actually ends up happening.
"People who liked (any videogame) also like (to masturbate)" -Twitch's highly advanced algorithm
Exactly this. No problem with them being allowed on twitch. But separate it from main twitch. Because these titty streams get a tonne of viewers, they just overtake everything else and it's so annoying
I think there's a difference between "children seeing women in bikinis at the beach or in a movie" and "hey come look at me specifically in a bikini, and I'll probably do some sexual gestures on purpose for money ". That being said, children shouldn't be able to view that content to begin with and that responsibility lies with the parents and twitch (to some degree)
Right. FortNite just tried to hideaway >loading screens< of all things to protect little timmy. FortNite isn’t the parent
This is a very important point. The women in bikinis at the beach aren't there to perform for kids and extort them for views/money
@@BandannaDann that is exactly what theyre there for, thats how they make a living
Most websites already have age gates, even Twitch. If someone is a parent letting your child on the internet, they have to do the bare minimum of monitoring what their child does.
@@BandannaDannThen be a better parent and have a basic knowledge of what your kids get up to with your credit card details.
Twitch should have just made a separate site for the adult stuff.
Twatch
@@joellouisfire that’s golden just like showers that’d be streaming on the site
Another "problem" is that every culture has their own definition of what is adult and at what age adulthood begins.
Twitch and Twerk. Sometimes mistaken for each other, yet each a distinct and legitimate art form.
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It has one, Kick. Just uses Twitch tech, so they get the money that way.
Thank you so much for pointing out the no sexual content in the games themselves. You're the first person I have seen bring it up. Finally!
IMO the issue is the ease of accessibility. If there is a way to filter this type of content then awesome do your thing, but having it explicitly shown front and center is a problem
I think nudity as you proposed in museums and such is understandable because it's attempting to draw or sculpt reality and there is an art and dedication to it. Streams that are doing live model sculpting or drawing would fall into this same category for me.
The streams that are drawing overtly sexual representations of nudity don't belong on Twitch in my opinion. It only affects me when Twitch has recommended them when that's not what I want. If there is a way that it doesn't negatively impact my experience on Twitch or change the platform for the worse then I guess more power to those people who are looking for that.
*EDIT* to add that I totally agree that there is a precedent for nudity in games also being an artform tho my personal wish wiuld be that we get that in the form of nudity that is story serving and not just sexualized nudity for its own sake
I think I agree - there’s a huge difference between sort of non-sexual nudity in art and hentai hahah. I *do* think genitalia should be permitted in both games (in a non-sexual context) AND art, the problem is the amount of people who are likely to go too far now that it’s unbanned at all.
@@charalanahzard Just wait, Twitter is already buzzing with OF models talking about starting Twitch channels lol
Perfect take. Live and let live, and leave the headache of moderation to Twitch.
*Elementary School is the word you're looking for.
Unfortunately for Internet media, selling sex is undeniable in our society, but with twitch I think they know financially they cannot deny the money that comes from dressing scantily.
I think in our disconnected society, sexual content with streaming will pull men more and yonger boys + men will by nature walk towards that whether they value non sexual content or not. Its financially beneficial for twitch.
I think it should be more limited in streaming specifically, or at least controlled because twitch creates a more personal connection regardless of the content. Video games and even TV/film is much different in this regard.
@@Desu-Desu-Chan-San I am surprised that X had very loose stances on nudity so this doesnt surprise me.
Twitch needs to stop advertising as 13+ but other than that I'm fine with it.
This is exactly what bothers me. If they want to allow sexual content, let them, but market it for appropiate age groups
I dont really agree. There is a difference between allowing nudity which they are, and allowing explicitly sexual content which they're not.
You can go and see a movie etc that is rated 12A (in the UK) with nudity in it, as long as said nudity isnt explicitly sexual.
What should they be then? Countless movies have two different rating depending on editing I'm not sure how much this differs. I'd like to see well constucted parental controls and all content not intended for people under 18 to require logging in.
It does bum me out, day9 (twitch streamer) made 6th-12th much bettter, I don't think my mom would have let me watch if it were what it is today.
You really think the average thirteen year old is abstaining from any and all depictions of nudity before all this? Were you ever thirteen?
@@briannaodonnell2572 that isnt why I said that. It's about lawsuits against twitch lol
I appreciated how you approached this!
Alanah is so real. ❤ your takes on things.
Up to grade 5 usually is Elementary School here. Middle is usually 6-8 and then High is 9-12.
I always enjoy hearing your level headed takes on current internet events
It almost feels like finding level headed people is like finding water in a desert sometimes 😅
Yep brains and beauty
I just love your choice of words on certain items... Love that you brought this up here though.
Thanks for the vid because I had no idea what was going on. I woke up this morning and the internet was ablaze haha
It's kind of a silly argument since the context is so different. People wear swimsuits at the beach to get tan and to bathe in water without getting their other clothes wet. The town square is also 'in public' but a bikini is less appropriate in that setting. The context for a bikini on a twitch stream when playing games at home is 100% intended as sexual exposure, and that intention is very rarely acceptable in public, and certainly not when it comes to kids. Let IRL streamers at the beach wear bikinis, but maybe don't play League in a thong and nipple-pads.
As a guy who got introduced to porn when I was 8 and have been strugling with a porn addiction for nearly 15 years, it's very hard to stop kids from being exposed, but there are real and serious consequences and Twitch has already established itself as something entirely different for the most part, so it will be a gateway for many boys that previously had no intention.
Maybe don't watch it if you don't like it?
It’s a very horrible and surprising take from her. The context her is solely to promote porn, there’s nothing artist or natural about it.
@@apophis7712Have you been on twitch lately? You gonna tell an 8 year old who wants to watch xqc to 'just not watch it' when he sees five recommended streams of giga-honkers hot girls on his feed?
@@lortigaproductions3120
Uh, yeah? If he wants to watch xqc (for some reason), then he will go to xqc.
@@apophis7712 Are you a girl? Did you have internet access as a child?
" Children love beaches " hahah! I'm always interested in hearing your opinions :) Great takes.
Absolutely not a great take. Beaches require accessibility, usually kids are supervised and they're there for a limited time. That's drastically different from 24/7 content being shoved in the kids face. She says herself that things pop up in her recommended list so a kid will see that whether they want to or not. I don't know how you perceive that as a great take
@@gemelwalters2942 those things will not pop up anymore (in theory) that was her take. Now wether this all works as Twitch says it does is another issue. But I find it very suspicious that people are so up in arms about this on twitch when twitter has literal porn on it that is more easily and readily accessible by any kid. The obvious solution to this is simple. Be better parents. As you said, kids are supervised at the beach, if your 11 year old is playing around on twitch you should know what streamers they are watching and if they are appropriate.
@@gemelwalters2942 you never lived near a beach 😂
Kids there sunrise to sunset.
@@MrBizteck I have, I grew up on an island where beaches and rivers were a popular pass time but not accessible 24/7 or the click of a button. Kids had school, chores and other activities and yes the beaches were supervised. Ppl on the beach in bikinis also weren't specifically there for the express purpose of showing you their body, they're just there minding their business. Content creators on the other hand do however create content or tailor content to be sexual for views and monetization. So no these are not the same thing.
Thank you for the statue of David jump scare 😅
People were up in arms over gambling on Twitch because of its addictive quality. But no one seems to care about Porn/Sex addiction - which can become extremely dangerous. Just like gambling, your brain receptors get fired off when it comes to sexual content. And content creators know this, and are leveraging it. Children DO use Twitch, and can easily fall down the rabbit hole.
That isn't even getting into how toxic porn can be with men (it further fuels their objectification of women, as well as gives them a warped view of intimacy and what sex is). I'm not being a prude and saying NO porn allowed. I mean like anything in life, adults can responsibly engage with things. But this just seems hypocritical of Twitch and all those constantly policing things like gambling when Porn and sex addiction can be incredibly destructive (especially when it targets kids).
To be clear I think gambling is worse because of how it plays on your brain. But read up on the research done on porn, and it can really ruin lives. I don't think it's healthy when millions of men are forming parasocial relationships with streamers because of titulation. This is just gonna further increase that.
There’s a difference between bikini on the beach vs on stream by the way; interactivity. Twitch streamers that do this usually invite viewers to donate and they’d perform certain actions that viewers ask them to do. It’s weird imo.
Additionally, parts of society where people already are lacking social skills and human contact, further give into the online para social relationships and that’s a never ending cycle. But that’s a whole separate topic that I have strong feelings for any way. I wish people would just stop looking at the streamers as anything more than an entertainer who is making money off of their online interactions with the viewers, and that people would take online social interactions with a bit more discretion in mind than just “omg my queeen/king deserves all my rent this month”.
a video made by someone who clearly does not have kids :)
I generally agree with her most of the time.
This take from her this time was pretty bad
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"Parts of society where people are lacking social skills and human contact" The insane amount of prejudice here towards gamers is unbelievable. It's kinda unreal reading something like this in 2023. This kind of prejudice is a huge part of the problem for as far as it exists
As for the problem of "Para social relationships", they are as old as celebrities have existed, there are always people taking fandom too far. And no I'm not one of those people, in fact I don't even use twitch at all.
The issue here is that when you allow a company to continue define rules like that, they continue to break the lines. Most of twitches users are below the age of 17. There has to be a breaking point.
"i'm not sexy", that a bait for me to comment or what? 😃
Rite!
That spinning David brought back ‘Bruno’ ptsd
I'm just here for that spiral zoom into statue of Davids little stone hog. Great content!
😂
I think the problem is simple - Twitch is trying to have it's cake and eat it too. If they want to allow sexual content on their platform it needs to be 18+, or better yet, make it so you need to have a verified 18+ account to view any stream with the sex /nudity tag.
Also (I'm a fan of yours btw so pls dont take it personally) you have a very prominant position in the games industry. You've worked at IGN, SMS, Funhaus, run your own awards ceremony etc. You're an established and respected name in the industry, so of course you're going to have a stable and growing presence on twitch regardless of what you wear. But the simple fact of the matter is that on a homepage with only a thumbnail to help land a new viewer, those wearing more provocative attire will probably get chosen bc as you said, sex sells.
I do believe that dressing in a certain way or being more aesthetically pleasing helps to facilitate growth, viewership and watch time. I dont believe its particularly fair that people can blatantly exploit this fact in increasingly more provocative ways and be rewarded for it, whilst others can't. Just my two cents
Man this video is a goldmine for quotes
Whatever makes you money.
Rules,Logic,decency,self respect,reason,all dies in the face of money.
If they are going to do this they need a way to keep it separate. They need better proof of age methods and If the label is there I want to be able filter out that type of content. Currently I use an add-on that allows me to block channels that use certain tags like "vtuber", "furry", and "femboy".
I’m always baffled and enlightened by your healthy takes on viral topics, thanks for these. I felt it was being overreacted but also wasn’t entirely comfortable about this certain thing going on but I couldn’t understand the why’s and how’s
Her fuzzy camera makes her look cell shaded a little bit. It looks kinda neat.
I gotta do further research.
I personally dont care much, but my kids do hop on twitch sometimes and right on the first main page some chick has her calcium cannons pretty much out for the world to see. I think it should be harder to come across than the main page
I like your commentary-type videos about pop-media/game industry, thanks for making them
hahah. alanah's reading voice is hilarous. its like a psycho AI going rogue.
Basically agree with you on all fronts there Alanah!
What a time to be alive.
I maintain the same position on that that I've had for a long time: this stuff should be allowed on twitch, but you need to opt into seeing it, whether that's ticking a box to confirm your age so it shows up normally, or needing to search specific tags and pages to see it
Yep.
I disagree. Different site because there is too much children on Twitch.
@@pixeljauntvr7774 False. Ticking a box is not secure enough. A more fleshed out method is needed.
"we call it primary school mate" that one got me, good stuff 😂
Primary school is called Elementary School in US. US goes Kindergarden, Elementary, Middle, Jr. High, Sr. High school. Some of these are combined in different states/ school zones.
its really disingenuous to act like looking woman up on twitch in hoptubs and wearing bikinis is the same as going to the beach same with acting like people drawing hentai is like going to a museum
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it is perfectly fine by Twitches rules to have nudity in video games. As long as it's part of the game and you're not going out of your way to explicitly focus on it. I think it's been that way a while.
here in the States, it's called Preschool, Elementary School, Middle School, High School, magnet school, or private school, etc.
"Elementary, my dear Watson."
Elementary School. That is our "Primary" school in the US of A.
This is such a wierd world we live in.
If Microsoft ever wanted to try Mixer again, this is the time
I loved mixer 😭
I'm not sure I feel like these changes will probably make twitch even more popular. It's becoming a freer platform.
You can't kill something twice.
@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu it’s becoming OnlyFans
I have no idea why MS abandoned that. It seemed like it could have done really well, they were just way too impatient.
It's "Elementary" school in the US!
Wasn't expeciting a spinning zoom into the David statue but here we are!
I work 12's. 7 on, 7 off. Lotta down time tho. I've basically abandoned twitch. They recommend the craziest shit.
Most of my watch time is at work. I don't wanna look for new content creators on the off chance a coworker might see fart ASMR or a lady bouncing as I'm scrolling.
It's not just a Twitch issue. It's a social media issue. Instagram and TikTok are full of it too. I'm all for NSFW but filters need to actually work. If they can't ensure that, let it remain banned.
As guy who enjoys video games and watching streamers, I DO NOT WANT to see nudity in a space where I want to enjoy video games and other things, there is already too much sexualisation in the digital space
A woman's body is considered sexualized
Yeh its distracting and takes you out of the moment sometimes. But sometimes it required like In futuristic cyberpunk games etc
@@lilztheking1751 Nice bait. Try harder next time.
We call it Elementary School but it’s also interchangeable with primary school in some states.
"i don't get this kind of viewers" oh my god, Alanah is so pure! LOL
These guys are EVERYWHERE as long as the screen separates them from you and the rest of the audience.
Well, they won't always interact, but if you do a search on live streams of girls who go through some type of abuse you'll realize that it's not just the "proper live stream" type where they are.
The girl has a wikifeet page and thinks she doesn't get that viewer, there's loads, which are either just banned from speaking or don't speak because they'll get banned.
I'm happy to bet, 25% of her views(ER's) are males that are creepily attracted to her
"I'm not sexy" are you kidding me? You're known as the sexiest gaming youtuber!
No no i think you are going wrong on one point, yes kids go to public places were girls are using bikinis or movies show girls in bikinis, but this Streams are really pushing EROTIC content, its quite different, also this people you see in beaches or movies who are wearing bikinis do not try to sell you their onlyfans or pushing people to tip to do specific "things" 🤷♀️
You do make a great point and that is why I listen to what you have to say!
I agree with the most of the things you are saying. Also agree that ppl who are interested in sexual content, going to watch that content and it doesn't take views away from other streamers in that way. It takes viewers away in another way though. ASMR has a very bad reputation on Twitch and legit ASMR streamers are struggling, leaving Twitch, don't stream ASMR anymore, since no one who is not looking for sexual content is clicking on the category anymore and rather watches YT. I have a friend who is an ASMR streamer and the situation is dire.
They see how much money OF is making and they want their piece
😂🎯💯
Yeahhhhhh
Everyone's gonna become a artist over night.
Selling sex what people with no talent do.
I’m all for “you do you” but let’s not lie about what it is.
Hey! Really appreciate the perspective given here and definitely agree that for Twitch, this is the better course of action over censorship. That being said though, there is a growing political push in the US and possibly the UK and Australia now, to introduce laws that will require verifiable government issued ID to be able to access adult content online which, given how even large businesses such as a Telephone Company (side eyes Optus) can't guarantee customer security and a well earned skepticism of websites that claim to never store sensitive information, has me worried.
How this ties into Twitch's new policy in my mind is that regardless of whatever steps are put in place to keep under legal age people out of the adult section, lawmakers and others vested in this movement will cite Twitch for all its young audiences, skip on the finer details, and rail relentlessly (pun intended) to push their agenda through.
Anyways, that's just my Tin Foil hat view on this. Genuinely hope for the best though and that the adult entertainment industry can be more legitimized.
Thanks for confirming it’s your webcam. I thought I had cataracts.
As a non native english speaker, "Children love beaches" just hits different...
Honestly at this point I don't understand why Twitch doesn't go all in and make something like Twitch 18+ - a separate site [or maybe like, one "connection" to Twitch in a form of one of their categories] for everything that is between "normal" and "suggestive". Get all of the people that stream with their cleavage, do hottub streams and all of the suggestive things, give them a "safe haven" and make them a "cam girl"-ish type of enviroment where they can bait people for subs and bits, while at the same time purge things like this from normal twitch.
It could be a win for everyone - Twitch gets a buttload of cash from a site that carefully balances on the edge of being sexuals and all of the OF girls have a free space to thrive. Just a wild thought.
Because they don't want to split their user base. Part of the reason why advertisers and such pay so much money is because of the amount of people their ads can reach. Splitting the user base means fewer people are exposed to it. Also, they don't actually care if minors are viewing sexually explicit content. They are only trying to save face to placate people into thinking that they are doing something to moderate or curate their platform. The more, horny 13-year-old boys with inattentive parents who want to watch titty streams only helps twitch/amazon. It's the internet and one must anticipate to be exposed to anything at any given time. Corporations will always exploit every loophole they can if it means they can squeeze another dollar out of it. It is ultimately up to parents to monitor what their children are consuming. I have kids, and I don't let them on many sites, like tiktok or twitter, or twitch, because even if they aren't watching a sexually explicit stream, who is to say that a streamer isn't going to pause their fortnite game to talk to the audience about sexually explicit topics, or even religion or politics (things parents generally don't want their kids to learn about from an untrusted source). There are plenty of other places where there are actual, kid-friendly, curated streams for children to watch.
All super well said. Also really cool to call out people blaming women who stream sexual content for "taking away from other women" as just not being true
"ART" is crazy Alanah...
First it was Onlyfans now it's Twitch. what happened to this being a game streaming platform. Honestly I've slowly started watching more YT long form content over twitch and this is just another reason why. There is a difference between art depicting nudity and random streamers showing nudity.
I feel the argument of "it steals viewers from female streamers" is better framed (or reframed) as creating an environment where new streamers who are female are expected to allow for that type of interaction or viewer in their stream. It creates an environment that then fosters a next generation of streamers. UA-cam shows this brilliantly. People copy what is successful and with very few successful core gaming female streamers the future generation won't pop up. Just like how screaming and shouting content creators gave us XQC and Ninja etc etc
At the same time, xQc and Ninja can pretty well be ignored. If you aren't in the "shouting reaction streamer" genre than neither of those two guys exist and there's plenty of other fish in the sea. As long as Twitch makes the "Explicit Content" label clearly shown on a channel, I think people can even use it as a defense. Like someone being horny in chat when the streamer doesn't want it they can just tell them to literally go to Twitch's new horny jail: The Explicit Content section.
@@B0mbshell_ this doesn’t solve the environment / incubation problem I stated above. Of course people can choose. They can do that with or without a tag.
...... Good God I went full meerkat when you broke out the soft spoken accent. I believe the words holy **** came out 😂😂
Voice over work anyone? 😂😂👍
In the US we often call primary school, elementary. But we sometimes call it primary too.
I'm with you, as long as I don't start seeing it all over my recommended videos, they can do their thang 😂
yeah, they specifically say that you won't see the tagged videos recommended. basically Twitch created a coomer containment corner where you have to actively search for it to see it
I disagree. Twitch is 13+. Just make a completely different site and everyone will be happy.
@@lodiped I disagree. Twitch is 13+. Just make a completely different site and everyone will be happy.
this kinda throws the anti-gambling arguments out since "think of the children" was one of the main complaints there
Can't say I was ready for the 1501 rendition of meat spin but aight lets go!
2:06 I love it when the Aussie comes out strong hahahaha
You are one of the most down to earth person I've enjoyed listening to on youtube. You are an excellent communicator and enjoy listening to you put your thoughts out there. Keep up the great work.
Here's an idea: allow all of this stuff as long as creators use some sort of label to indicate this type of content, give users an option to NOT see content tagged with such label and make that the default if needed. Lock that option on sub-18 accounts. Problem solved.
For real. I'm so sick of the ongoing efforts to sanitize and pearl clutch the internet - it's a place (much of it) for everyone. Even adults. There should be places for adult content, interests, discussion, etc. Maybe it could be a sister-site Twitch runs, but if it's a labelled and gated, great. Gate content how it's **meant** to be gated (we have those RTA labels for a reason), and it's all sorted. Yes - kids may still find it if they go looking for it. That has never changed, and probably never will. Parents gotta parent, and also accept they can't oversee EVERYTHING.
That's literally what they are doing lmao
The warning is legit there as soon as you enter a stream. It can't be more clearer than that.
@@lodiped 18+ content is still shown in recommended or on the starting page regardless. @vinnie_PT is saying that it should always be filtered out and not overridden when Twitch deems it necessary.
@@Kozoku that's weird because if you read the updated rules they very clearly state that they won't show the thumbnails on the main page. They say that every stream tagged as sexual will be hidden. Idk what's currently going on but that's what the rules say.
Check the rbg range settings for your webcam in the obs settings
To fix the washed out issues
To answer your question about primary school equivalent; we call it elementary (or grade) school in the States.
As someone just starting this whole this streaming thing, I have gained more confusion than knowledge to what the rules actually allow to be streamed in the past few weeks. I just find it strange, like you mentioned, as to why you can't stream certain games because of nudity, but someone can stand naked with a camera angled at a certain position and still be allowed without any repercussions.
its simple, if it makes amazon lots of money, its "not sexual".
☝️ this. It’s all about the monies.
You can stream games with nudity, that part of her video is incorrect. So it's actually slightly *more* consistent now, surprisingly.
@@duckducklarry People get issues from Twitch with nudity in games all the time.
They updated it and I still concerning about it. I agree what you say. Alanah
Have to admit, I definitely didn't expect this video to be out of date by Friday.
Alanah, you're just a badass, I love your thoughts and the fact you're not scared to give your opinion. This the reason I follow you. Thank you for being a badass.
It’s kinda awesome that we need to explain in such lengthy detail why it’s okay to look at each other
Yes! Thank you! So, I’m a busty women. I like to wear tank tops during the summer and hoodies in the winter, cosplays that involve cleavage, yet I’m considered a “tiddy” streamer. I just play video games, and talk nerdy. 🤣
Your fantastic!
i know right, people objectifying us all the time! i always get crap for wearing daisy dukes, its like LEAVE ME ALONE I LIKE SHOWING OFF MY BODY.
but all i get is rude remarks like "your legs are hairy" and "your balls are falling out".....
@@robinhooduk8255 lol if that makes you happy, but showing balls is against twitch TOS ;) I don’t care if people sexualize my content. I’ve been sexualized since I was a child. Doesn’t matter what I wear 🤷🏼♀️I want to play games I enjoy and have good conversations.
So that's why I kept seeing that Morgpie thumbnail for some reason. YT keep recommending me videos regarding this current Twitch drama(?)
Elementary school (grades 1-4), middle school / junior high (grades 5-8), high school (grades 9-12) is what the schools in the US are called. There's also pre-school and kindergarten for before elementary school.
Apparently it's a hot take, but I don't think there should be ANY sexualized content on a website with an age gate of only 13. It's not about "reducing it to a childrens' website", it's about a complete lack of segregation of content currently. There's really no barrier to prevent kids from accidentally stumbling onto that stuff very easily whether through channels with high viewer counts or just happening to be in whatever category they're looking at. I don't know if the changes have come into effect yet, but even right now going to the browse page and live channels I see three different women that are either seemingly completely nude or showing mostly bare ass in the top 10 channels. There's no censoring or blocking on the thumbnails, it's just straight up out there in the open. I've had tons of times in the past where I'd had that content shoved in my face through recommended and other pages, too, and I have never even watched ANY of those types of streams. Twitch simply pushes it because it's popular and earns them money, and the recommendation system doesn't differentiate between non-sexual and sexual content, only what is doing well at a given time. I've got no problem with camsites or sexual content in spaces that are intended for it, but I do not think Twitch should figuratively edge itself into that market since that's clearly what their goal is.
Also, there is a difference in seeing a woman in a bikini doing normal things and one that is doing overtly sexual things, same goes for the nude art and everything else. Just because there is no literal sex happening in a depiction does not mean that it isn't sexual in nature with particular poses, implications, etc. You can't really compare this to seeing video games you don't want to watch, the type of content is so vastly different. Sexual content is predatory to particular types of people, whether intentional or not, like younger people, porn addicts, etc.
I'm with you. If they want to include adult content then change the age restriction to 18+. Alana's examples are also a bit wanting. Someone in a bikini on a beach minding their own business is vastly different from someone putting on a show and asking for donations. Kids are generally supervised on a beach and you definitely can't be there 24/7. It's just not the same thing
A) The age gate is not strictly 13 though is it...the actual ToS states the following...
The Twitch Services are not available to persons under the age of 13. *If you are between the ages of 13 and the age of legal majority in your jurisdiction of residence, you may only use the Twitch Services under the supervision of a parent or legal guardian* who agrees to be bound by these Terms of Service.
If parents want to prevent their kids looking at stuff that is now being allowed on Twitch then they should be responsible for monitoring what their own kids see and interact with...which they should be according to the ToS.
B) The user stats don't suggest that there is a lot of kids of that age using the site...
from 2022 user demographic analytics
16-24 22.3%
25-34 49.7%
35-44 17.5%
45-54 1.9%
65+ 1.3%
So that means 7.3% of users between 13-15....and, as mentioned, they should be only accessing the site with the consent of a parent or guardian...
C) Sorry to break this to you...but believe me, kids will know exactly how to find and access far more 'adult' content than what Twitch are going to allow. That's just a fact. And an 'are you 18' check button does not and will not stop them. It is delusional to think that it would. I bet if you ask guys that are around 20 to 30 if they had either looked up or seen pron on the internet before they were 18 that 90% would say 'yes, of course'...and the other 10% are liars.
I have to say, I don't know why anybody bothers watching those that stream that content on Twitch when there's hardly a shortage of that material on the internet, but I find the 'but wut about da kids' argument to be somewhat overblown. The most Twitch should do is keep it off the main directory and in the specific categories it is allowed in. The rest is down to the viewer. If they don't want to see it, then they shouldn't go and watch.
D) ALL the other relevant current social media is also rife with adult material....Twitter, TikTok, Instagram etc. So why is it that Twitch has to exclude themselves from doing the same also? Or why are people not clamouring for that content to be removed from those platforms?
I think a big part of the problem is that Twitch is still primarily viewed as a game streaming site first. So, even adults who use Twitch/play games get “concerned” when sexual content comes into play.
If they started off having games, gambling, sex, etc…this would have been figured out ages ago. Like, (for multiple/bad reasons) I doubt this would be as big of deal on Kick.
why people can't comprehend that is their company and they can do with it whatever they want,it doesn't matter for what it is known, if they want to change,they can,simple. But people out here treating twitch like they some of the owners or something, it's really delusional
@@Yuuki_Asuna If a customer doesn't like a product, they're going to complain. Or worse, they just leave for another platform. Of course they can do whatever they want, you can also do whatever you want, but sometimes there are consequences.
The announcer voice at the beginning threw me! 😅
Grades K - 5: Elementary School
Grades 6 - 8: Middle School
Grades 9 - 12: High School
Good points across the board. I hope women continue to get the bag and all audiences are seeing more of the content they want and less of what they don’t want thanks to the tags. Also a great point about content in the actual games.
One argument I heard is that other streamers are afraid that Twitch will face its own 'adpocolypse' and ruin the platform for everyone else, and thus people that want to make this type of content should be relegated to platforms that already allow it. I don't watch Twitch, so I don't really pay that much attention, but it sounds like a fair argument to me
I don’t think twitch will allow that. They’ll separate the content long before they’re willing to lose ad revenue.
I might've seen statue of David by the time I was 10, but I never seen it rotating and zooming in towards nether region. It was like a glimpse into new dimension 😂 1:48
I am indifferent to all implications, I am here for the chaos.