They should have a crank/electric hybrid. You can use the crank, or remove the crank handle and use an attachable motor that fits in it's place. If the motor breaks, it's an easier fix than for tables with integrated motors.
Thank you for watching our video! The biggest issue is that the motors and/ or gears (depending on the desk) act as a braking system when the desk is not in use. This prevents the desk from sinking down to the its lowest point when power is lost. Desks with internal motors would still require you to remove the motors and potentially replace the gears as well -GK
@@btodtv I mean, the gear mechanism would remain; you'd simply have two options for rotating the shaft: a handle, or a motor. Each would have a shaft that would fit into the other (picture an extension being connected to a ratchet and you have the idea how they'd fit). You could remove then handle and insert the shaft of the motor instead (which might have a way to lock onto the desk). It would be like using one of those hand-held blender-wands, except horizontally. If there was something like this out there, I'd buy it in two seconds. Also, you should consider developing a loftbed that can be raised and lowered. I would love to have a changeable loft bed, a changeable standing desk underneath, and an underdesk treadmill (which means the bed would need to go very high). Attach some exercise items (pullup bar, hooks for suspension training, etc.), maybe some built-in under-bed lighting for the "office" and it would be a college student's dream come true. Great video, BTW.
If the power goes out I'm not worried about my electric desk not being adjustable because my computer monitors won't work either way. I know computers are not the only reason people have desks, but I wanted to point out that that con is probably not applicable for most people using a computer on it.
I like my crank desk. The important parameter is low number of crank rotation to lift it. I am able to lift it in ~ 20-30 seconds. For example, IKEA desks are bad from my point of view, because you have to rotate the crank too many times. I bought mine for about 150$ without the top. I love it.
Glad to hear you've found a crank desk that works for your needs. These can be nice options for many people. The trade off for a faster crank is generally a lower lifting capacity. Depending on someone's needs, this may or may not be an issue. -GK
Hi Martin. Can i ask you a question? after a year of use would you still recommend a lever or pneumatic standing desk. I am between those two. Thank you!
@@carolineobe2960I have a Vivo crank desk for about the same price and it’s working wonderfully. I’m sure an electric motor would be slightly more convenient, but it only takes a few seconds to change positions with a crank and I don’t have to worry about the motor going out.
@@kungfoochicken08 thank you very much for your reply :) I am looking for a crank desk. I don't want an electric model because of the reason you mention, and the extra hassle with the cables and having yet another electric device annoys me, especially when not needed. I'll check if i can get the same as yours :) Thanks for the info!
_Funny, the main objective of sit/stand desks is to reduced discomfort, improved posture, reduced arm and wrist strain, increased alertness and energy, increased calorie burn, & helps maintain a healthy weight._ *So, a crank desk would be a plus since one would have to PHYSICALLY turn the handle.* _Still shopping/researching but I'm leaning towards the crank models!! Glad I found this video._
Very informative and well done video! You've helped me decide on the standing desk converter. Quick, reliable, and more portable than the other two options in case I ever move out. Good thing I'm not short!
One must learn from content creators how to say in 500 words what can be said in 5. Cons of the hand crank desk: Hand cranked tables tend to rise slowly How you put it: Hand cranked tables tend to rise more slowly. It requires at least 50% more time to raise it to the same height from a sitting position to a standing position, which means you as a user will spend more time cranking the crank and it will often get frustrating. Add to this the cranking speed will be affected by the load, so the more weight you have on your table the slower it will crank. What you forgot to mention, which could have made this video a full 24 hour watch. Hand cranked tables are especially not useful for people with wrist injuries. For example, if you are a tennis player who has sprained his wrist, cranking the table will be near impossible, especially if you are right handed, because the crank is usually on the right side, this means that you would have to use your left hand to crank the table, which will take even more time. Moreover, if you have a cut on your palm, for example if you nicked your palm when slicing an apple, you know the red fruit that keeps the doctor away, so if you have a cut on your palm. It will grasping the crank difficult, which would mean that you won’t be able to choose your favourite height to work Let me know if you need more ideas or a script that will make Vikram Seth blush.
I like the converter desk options specifically varidesk pro plus 36 I only use the monitors on the desk. The crank and the eletric appear to take up a lot of space as well
The drill is probably the best option. Over extending the gears in the legs or lowering them to the bottom height too fast will lead to damage. Having better control with the drill by reducing the torque setting and monitoring the min/max height can help limit the chance for damage -GK
Standing up while working is totally useless you won't win a thing better go to grab water or go for a walk daily. Another thing crank models are great at, is precision which is important for ergonomics while electric would grow inche by inche which is very poor precision.
Depends on the product. Some are fixed in height, some have limited adjustment options and others will be unlimited within the range of motion they provide -GK
What desk is it where the converter is sitting on? I already have a converter but i need a new desk. I will have two monitors, a laptop, keyboard, and coffee mug. Thanks
Thanks for the demo! Any ideas where to find an adjustable frame for an 11 foot long L-shaped desk top? Probably one with 4 columns, three in a row and maybe 1 at the end of the L? Any help would be greatly aporeciated!
12:45... or a "Heavy CPU"... you mean a Heavy PC. But a Heavy PC doesn't even fit onto that Standing Desk Converter. Also you could just put it on the non-moving table next to it...
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They should have a crank/electric hybrid. You can use the crank, or remove the crank handle and use an attachable motor that fits in it's place. If the motor breaks, it's an easier fix than for tables with integrated motors.
Thank you for watching our video! The biggest issue is that the motors and/ or gears (depending on the desk) act as a braking system when the desk is not in use. This prevents the desk from sinking down to the its lowest point when power is lost. Desks with internal motors would still require you to remove the motors and potentially replace the gears as well -GK
@@btodtv I mean, the gear mechanism would remain; you'd simply have two options for rotating the shaft: a handle, or a motor. Each would have a shaft that would fit into the other (picture an extension being connected to a ratchet and you have the idea how they'd fit). You could remove then handle and insert the shaft of the motor instead (which might have a way to lock onto the desk). It would be like using one of those hand-held blender-wands, except horizontally. If there was something like this out there, I'd buy it in two seconds.
Also, you should consider developing a loftbed that can be raised and lowered.
I would love to have a changeable loft bed, a changeable standing desk underneath, and an underdesk treadmill (which means the bed would need to go very high). Attach some exercise items (pullup bar, hooks for suspension training, etc.), maybe some built-in under-bed lighting for the "office" and it would be a college student's dream come true.
Great video, BTW.
@@anarchisttutor7423 ya it’s called a drill and a driver bud…🤔
Thanks!
This is such an incredibly comprehensive overview. This is just what I was looking for, well done!
Thanks for watching! - TK
If the power goes out I'm not worried about my electric desk not being adjustable because my computer monitors won't work either way. I know computers are not the only reason people have desks, but I wanted to point out that that con is probably not applicable for most people using a computer on it.
I like my crank desk. The important parameter is low number of crank rotation to lift it. I am able to lift it in ~ 20-30 seconds. For example, IKEA desks are bad from my point of view, because you have to rotate the crank too many times. I bought mine for about 150$ without the top. I love it.
Glad to hear you've found a crank desk that works for your needs. These can be nice options for many people. The trade off for a faster crank is generally a lower lifting capacity. Depending on someone's needs, this may or may not be an issue.
-GK
Hi Martin. Can i ask you a question? after a year of use would you still recommend a lever or pneumatic standing desk. I am between those two. Thank you!
Hello, what is the model of your crank desk ? Thanks :)
@@carolineobe2960I have a Vivo crank desk for about the same price and it’s working wonderfully. I’m sure an electric motor would be slightly more convenient, but it only takes a few seconds to change positions with a crank and I don’t have to worry about the motor going out.
@@kungfoochicken08 thank you very much for your reply :) I am looking for a crank desk. I don't want an electric model because of the reason you mention, and the extra hassle with the cables and having yet another electric device annoys me, especially when not needed. I'll check if i can get the same as yours :) Thanks for the info!
Thank you, BTODtv, for this very thorough standing desk type comparison video!
What is the crank desk in the middle I want it it’s perfect
This was so helpful. Thank you.
You’re welcome! -GK
_Funny, the main objective of sit/stand desks is to reduced discomfort, improved posture, reduced arm and wrist strain, increased alertness and energy, increased calorie burn, & helps maintain a healthy weight._
*So, a crank desk would be a plus since one would have to PHYSICALLY turn the handle.* _Still shopping/researching but I'm leaning towards the crank models!! Glad I found this video._
Very informative and well done video! You've helped me decide on the standing desk converter. Quick, reliable, and more portable than the other two options in case I ever move out. Good thing I'm not short!
Thank you! - GK
if weight is a problem with a crank desk you could help it along with your hand
Very comprehensive and precise
Which is more reliable and durable? Crank desks or pneumatic desks?
My High Max standing desk went up but now stuck and wont go back down We unplugged and plugged it back in and did reset on it but still nothing
More information on standing desks with gas lifts would be nice.
One must learn from content creators how to say in 500 words what can be said in 5.
Cons of the hand crank desk: Hand cranked tables tend to rise slowly
How you put it: Hand cranked tables tend to rise more slowly. It requires at least 50% more time to raise it to the same height from a sitting position to a standing position, which means you as a user will spend more time cranking the crank and it will often get frustrating. Add to this the cranking speed will be affected by the load, so the more weight you have on your table the slower it will crank.
What you forgot to mention, which could have made this video a full 24 hour watch.
Hand cranked tables are especially not useful for people with wrist injuries. For example, if you are a tennis player who has sprained his wrist, cranking the table will be near impossible, especially if you are right handed, because the crank is usually on the right side, this means that you would have to use your left hand to crank the table, which will take even more time. Moreover, if you have a cut on your palm, for example if you nicked your palm when slicing an apple, you know the red fruit that keeps the doctor away, so if you have a cut on your palm. It will grasping the crank difficult, which would mean that you won’t be able to choose your favourite height to work
Let me know if you need more ideas or a script that will make Vikram Seth blush.
🤣 👍
I like the converter desk options specifically varidesk pro plus 36
I only use the monitors on the desk.
The crank and the eletric appear to take up a lot of space as well
I can't move my current desk up and down but I would definitely consider it a crank desk lol
where do you put the PC case when you have a crank desk? considering putting it on the ground is not ideal due to dust intake
What kind of desk is the electric one here? Great review brother!
Thank you! That is the VertDesk v3 -GK
not gonna use the computer anyway if I don't have power
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no battery loaded electric ?
I disagree - I do not have to turn the handle that many times for it to go up or down
Desks from different companies surely have different gearing ratios.
Where are your “Top 5” crank stand desk ?
Use power-bank when there's a power outage.
Hey there! What is that manual crank model?
That is the NewHeights Vuelta. Here is a link bit.ly/2tqxDnn -GK
very informative video, thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching! - C
Is there a way to convert a crank desk to electric desk. Beside the drill option I’ve seen
Attaching an engine to crank it for you could work.
The drill is probably the best option. Over extending the gears in the legs or lowering them to the bottom height too fast will lead to damage. Having better control with the drill by reducing the torque setting and monitoring the min/max height can help limit the chance for damage -GK
WHABBOUT PNEUMATIC / COUNTER-BALANCED?
Any updated video?
A heavy cpu? Huh?
Standing up while working is totally useless you won't win a thing better go to grab water or go for a walk daily. Another thing crank models are great at, is precision which is important for ergonomics while electric would grow inche by inche which is very poor precision.
Can you adjust the converter standing desk to ur preference? It’s a fixed height ain’t it?
Depends on the product. Some are fixed in height, some have limited adjustment options and others will be unlimited within the range of motion they provide -GK
7:36 have CPU... LOL.
What desk is it where the converter is sitting on? I already have a converter but i need a new desk. I will have two monitors, a laptop, keyboard, and coffee mug. Thanks
That is the Bush 400 Series desk: bit.ly/2IQSvu5 -GK
Ikea now offers a nice coffee mug holder accessory that clamps onto the side of most desks. Works great for tumblers too.
@@gregorymoore2877 thank you. I was able to get the desk from my work.
muchas gracias
De nada! -GK
Thanks for the demo! Any ideas where to find an adjustable frame for an 11 foot long L-shaped desk top? Probably one with 4 columns, three in a row and maybe 1 at the end of the L? Any help would be greatly aporeciated!
6:19 Tells us you need to crank 3-5 times per inch
4:15 SHOWS us about 1inch per rotation
Pick one dude.
12:45... or a "Heavy CPU"... you mean a Heavy PC. But a Heavy PC doesn't even fit onto that Standing Desk Converter. Also you could just put it on the non-moving table next to it...
If it's a tower, I would just have it on the floor.
No demo
1:50,
5:45,
11:02 :(
A heavy cpu 😂
Don't understand why to buy electric TABLES
xD IT'S A TABLE
The crank ones are dope, though...
Because we are all lazy! Haha. They lift a lot more than crank desks, are much quicker and provide a better experience for most people -GK
With the electric desks, there is the potential to have an app on your phone that lets you control the desk via bluetooth.
"Heavy CPU".... facepalm.
Some people use the terms PC and CPU interchangeably. Oh well.