Why Wi-Fi On Airplanes Is So Bad

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  • Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
  • Airplane Wi-Fi has been around for decades but its reliability and speeds can vary widely depending on the airline, the route and the type and age of the aircraft.
    American Airlines, United and other U.S. airlines have been updating their fleets to provide better wifi. Delta has spent over $1 billion retrofitting its planes to bring free wifi to its customers.
    The airline is using Viasat, one of the leading providers of satellite internet, to deliver Wi-Fi on board.Viasat recently launched a new satellite with faster speeds and more capacity, which the company says will help keep up with the growing demand for the airline industry.
    CNBC got an inside look at how Delta is working to upgrade over 1,200 planes by 2024.
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Introduction
    02:00 - How it works
    04:07 - Big players
    07:44 - Airlines
    10:45 - The future
    Produced, Shot and Edited by Erin Black
    Animation by Jason Reginato
    Supervising Producer Jeniece Pettitt
    Additional Camera by Shawn Baldwin, Andrew Evers
    Production Support Tala Hadavi, Leslie Josephs
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    Why Wi-Fi On Airplanes Is So Bad

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  • @nikn1250
    @nikn1250 11 місяців тому +458

    Recently I’ve been researching inflight wifi, it’s incredible how quick it has gotten over the years. We must remember at one point not too long ago, we didn’t even have wifi on the ground.

    • @justicedemocrat9357
      @justicedemocrat9357 11 місяців тому

      Not too long ago? What the hell are you talking about, idiot we've had wifi for over half a century.

    • @boohere2
      @boohere2 10 місяців тому +3

      I was on a long flight out of country. The airline said they had wifi. I tried to buy the darn package. It just kept rejecting me. I tried to over and over. Then just gave up. I was truly bummed because I wanted to watch my Netflix and surf the web as well. If airlines are afraid of costs will be a problem, they will probably be sneaky in getting customers to pay for it by trying to increase the plane seat ticket. Instead of just prompting you to buy it on the screen of your device.

    • @justicedemocrat9357
      @justicedemocrat9357 10 місяців тому +8

      @@boohere2 Did you cry?

    • @adrianalexandrov7730
      @adrianalexandrov7730 10 місяців тому +4

      yeah, remember those times not so long ago we were using sticks to start a fire.

    • @boohere2
      @boohere2 10 місяців тому +2

      @@justicedemocrat9357 wanted to, but I was more upset than anything

  • @phlezktravels
    @phlezktravels 11 місяців тому +613

    Bro the fact you even have wifi is a miracle.

    • @davidck1
      @davidck1 11 місяців тому +20

      yeah the power of Education

    • @phlezktravels
      @phlezktravels 11 місяців тому +6

      @@davidck1 lol I mean, everything starts with education.

    • @Jakeobfreedman
      @Jakeobfreedman 11 місяців тому +32

      The fact we can fly through the sky in a metal tube powered by combustion like it’s no big deal is a miracle

    • @thetobyg
      @thetobyg 11 місяців тому +1

      CNBC is a woo-man!

    • @isocarboxazid
      @isocarboxazid 11 місяців тому +9

      It is fantastic. However, if people are paying for a service, they should receive a refund if it doesn't work.

  • @RobertDunn310
    @RobertDunn310 11 місяців тому +524

    On my last international flight to Europe from the U.S. with American Airlines, I had a pretty decent Wi-Fi connection, all things considered. I mean, I was too fascinated with being able to text people from a metal tube 42,000 in the air to care that it wasn't gigabit speed.

    • @FastGuy1
      @FastGuy1 11 місяців тому +10

      Planes don’t fly at 42,000 Feet. Only 41-43,000 I don’t find you credible because of that.

    • @ThePeterDislikeShow
      @ThePeterDislikeShow 11 місяців тому +16

      Imagine one day flying to Mars and your wifi gets slower and slower as you leave Earth because the signal can only travel at the speed of light. You'll probably have better luck trying to communicate with people on other spacecraft who are closer by.

    • @lollol-lu8kt
      @lollol-lu8kt 11 місяців тому +58

      @@FastGuy1 "Planes only fly at this specific altitude and you got it wrong so I don't find you credible 🤓🤓🤓🤓"

    • @nikn1250
      @nikn1250 11 місяців тому +30

      @@lollol-lu8ktI’m in aviation and ironically that guy is wrong, they occasionally do fly at 42,000 feet.

    • @nikn1250
      @nikn1250 11 місяців тому +1

      Some providers even offer full streaming! However most will let you scroll through Instagram and Twitter.

  • @haroon420
    @haroon420 11 місяців тому +203

    Man. I enjoy going on 2-4 hour flight knowing that there is no internet connection and have some of that ‘what did people do before smartphones’ feeling

    • @Coz131
      @Coz131 11 місяців тому +21

      You can always switch off your phone. Reality is that I think having internet in planes will reduce stress and anxiety of flying for many people which is good for everyone.

    • @jakel8627
      @jakel8627 11 місяців тому +19

      That's weird because people just watch films, read, or play games. Wi fi just broadens your options. You're not doing anything different.

    • @johnmills2629
      @johnmills2629 11 місяців тому +6

      To be surrounded by people who don't have access to the internet is a different type of feeling.

    • @ardentdfender4116
      @ardentdfender4116 10 місяців тому +4

      I travel a lot for work and more often than most regular people. Often I just preload downloaded streaming content via Netflix, HBO, Amazon etc and just watch them in flight. However, just imagining everyone in flight having Wi-Fi and there are non stop calls, conversations, talking going on and on the entire flight will drive some -expletive crazy. Some people don’t know how to talk on a phone and not involve the entire aircraft. Some people will become agitated I’m sure when the person next to them or around them in involve in nonstop conversation and they can’t get any peace from their conversation when Wi-Fi is fully onboard.

    • @baddriversofthenorcalarea500
      @baddriversofthenorcalarea500 10 місяців тому

      It’s really not.

  • @victorchen5663
    @victorchen5663 11 місяців тому +284

    It's cool to have wifi in-flight but this is the very definition of first-world problems.

    • @bwofficial1776
      @bwofficial1776 11 місяців тому

      First-world problems are still problems.

    • @qwite9309
      @qwite9309 11 місяців тому +20

      we should have more trains full stop and use them when not traveling across oceans

    • @victorchen5663
      @victorchen5663 11 місяців тому +10

      @@qwite9309 US population density not high enough to make it economically viable at this time.

    • @lc9245
      @lc9245 11 місяців тому +17

      ⁠@@victorchen5663not true. HSR can be deployed along dense corridors like Texas 3 cities and North East corridor. The rest of the main routes can be expanded with more tracks and better timetable. Connections bring more economic benefits than mere passenger tickets. Much like highways, if you build them, demand will come. The more developed the network, the more goods, services and passenger will use them since they become better, exactly the same as how road works. Not to mention, longer distance trains can turn into night services if the network is dense enough for them to operate effectively. Instead of flying you would have the choice to travel 2 hours to the hub, sleep for 15 hours and wake up near your destination, travel another 2 hours to reach it. Instead of waking up early, drive to airport, check in, wait fly then travel again. You just leave the previous day and arrive the next. As for direct money benefits, Japanese then Chinese model essentially use profitable route to make up for the money losing sections. It can work, but there’s 0 political drive to make it work.
      Highways are not economically viable as well, but tax payer subsidise them because it’s benefits go beyond monetary.

    • @mattahmann
      @mattahmann 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@lc9245US population is not dense enough for a vast majority of America to support high speed rail. The few areas that are dense enough like northeast, Chicago, Florida all have failed and delayed high speed rail projects. They end up hardly reaching high speed, costing more than flights, and never connect directly to the city. For example, Illinois high speed rail was supposed to be completed in 2016 and is still being built and when complete may save 30 mins. Florida's brightline was supposed to be high speed and failed to do so. It's Miami to Orlando route ends at Orlando international and not downtown or Disney. This completely wiped out any time savings and cost savings. Our systems are broken.

  • @CompComp
    @CompComp 11 місяців тому +45

    I flew delta recently, and it was the best flight experience I've ever had. Even though 3/4 planes, I got stuck in the middle seat.

    • @FastGuy1
      @FastGuy1 11 місяців тому +1

      You know you can pick your seat right…

    • @CompComp
      @CompComp 11 місяців тому +3

      @FastGuy1 Yeah for some reason the site didn't give me the option. I also booked the day before. So that might of been part of the reason.

    • @justrandomthings319
      @justrandomthings319 11 місяців тому +2

      @@CompComp I'm not trying to be that way but it's "might have" not "might of".

    • @professorhineschoice
      @professorhineschoice 11 місяців тому

      @@CompComp If you book basic economy that would be the only way you're stuck in the middle seat and/or can't choose your seat. Main and above are allowed for choosing seats. It's a higher cost to book a main seat however, so for short flights it may not be worth the expense of standard main at that point.

    • @CompComp
      @CompComp 11 місяців тому +1

      @professorhineschoice Honesty, I wasn't looking to closely. I was in a rush, and my work paid for it.

  • @dsplabusc
    @dsplabusc 10 місяців тому +13

    starlink in conveniently brushed aside, but seems to have the greatest potential. a better explanation on why viasat is chosen over starlink would have been appreciated

  • @Mattimo97
    @Mattimo97 11 місяців тому +135

    Wont be long before it is class based bandwidth. Hotels already do this. Props to Delta for deploying a pretty reliable system, I use it weekly.

    • @yout0be1person
      @yout0be1person 11 місяців тому

      What do you mean by hotels already have it? Is it like 4 star hotels have faster wifi?

    • @Jwellsuhhuh
      @Jwellsuhhuh 11 місяців тому

      @@yout0be1person agree, lmao. Also ISPs already have trouble convincing most users to buy higher internet speeds. As long as it’s reliable and can load websites and videos, no one really cares. Good luck convincing people to go business class just because you can watch videos at 4K instead of 1080p

    • @puglifeyoshi292
      @puglifeyoshi292 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@yout0be1personmore expensive room = more bandwidth

    • @Hoodooboiiii
      @Hoodooboiiii 11 місяців тому +2

      @@puglifeyoshi292I don’t think it’s that simple to do that. You’d have to have 300+ different WiFi’s in a hotel to do that. The way my hotel does it is that there’s free wifi, and paid faster WiFi.

    • @puglifeyoshi292
      @puglifeyoshi292 11 місяців тому +6

      @@Hoodooboiiii most hotel wifis have a login system nowadays. I bet that is how it is handled, last hotel I went to I had to login with room number.

  • @jay_lokuarachchi
    @jay_lokuarachchi 10 місяців тому +28

    Last month, I flew with Air New Zealand. They offer free WiFi, and the connection was surprisingly steady and fast throughout the journey. However, my experience with Singapore Airlines was a disaster. My devices didn't even connect to the networks on both their medium and long-haul flights, although they advertise that all the passengers get complimentary WiFi.

    • @Malama1492
      @Malama1492 10 місяців тому

      I flew from New Zealand to New York and back without wifi issue I was so surprised! I assumed it was because it’s an 18 hour flight so everyone was asleep meaning less internet traffic lol 😂

    • @r1_anon
      @r1_anon 8 місяців тому

      one guy enjoying UA-cam would simply ruin the experience of everyone else)

  • @peterlution
    @peterlution 11 місяців тому +3

    I think Startlink is a way to go. When Startship takes flight, Starlink deployment will be much faster and cheaper. Go! Go! SpaceX!

  • @nickp7875
    @nickp7875 11 місяців тому +95

    I’ve found JetBlue has the best WiFi. Always free and great connection speed!

    • @ladymonacoofthebluepacific2571
      @ladymonacoofthebluepacific2571 11 місяців тому +10

      Jet Blue is my favorite airline ! They have the best service 😊

    • @Jonathan-pz6ws
      @Jonathan-pz6ws 11 місяців тому +5

      I just booked with them yesterday lol and yeah their wifi is pretty good tbh😭

    • @TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay
      @TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay 11 місяців тому +3

      They have the same system as some UAL 737s.

    • @dwayneuzoaru
      @dwayneuzoaru 11 місяців тому +5

      @@ladymonacoofthebluepacific2571 JetBlue is the GOAT of airlines

    • @okiedokie2557
      @okiedokie2557 11 місяців тому +6

      Came here to say this. JetBlue is by far the best

  • @jacksongosnell
    @jacksongosnell 11 місяців тому +40

    I wish they would’ve addressed Starlinks approach to this. Starlink broke the satellite Internet market for consumers because it was actually usable Internet. Starlink reinvented satellite Internet for the better with less lag and better performance. I’m curious if they will do the same with their service on planes and be even better than Viasat 3. What makes Star ink unique is that their satellites aren’t as far from the surface.

    • @thomasburke7995
      @thomasburke7995 11 місяців тому +1

      You obviously know little about satellite communication.. Starlink did not break it. They obtained a differnt method to for people to stay connected. The current Geosynchronous communications satellite system run by Intelsat was designed for low bandwidth functions like phone and television among other services. They were not designed for satellite phone users.

    • @RailTV01
      @RailTV01 11 місяців тому

      😂 starlink is stupidest company

    • @SethMiller
      @SethMiller 10 місяців тому +5

      I did briefly mention Starlink as an up-and-coming participant in the industry. And it absolutely is having an impact on the market overall. But it is still unclear if the lower latency of LEO will be the game-changer SpaceX claims. Most traffic today does not really benefit from that shift. If the promise of abundance of bandwidth comes true things could also change, but right now the company is still in its infancy for airline services, working through the certification and installation challenges, as well as getting the necessary newer satellites into orbit to support service over water. The original Starlink constellation cannot support that.

    • @SethMiller
      @SethMiller 10 місяців тому +3

      @@thomasburke7995 While the older generations of GEO satellites were more focused on TV distribution and cellular backhaul, modern versions are built to deliver relatively high speed services to moving platforms (e.g. airplanes, cruise ships, etc.). And there are several providers doing that, including Intelsat, but also Viasat, Inmarsat, Eutelsat, Hughes, and more.

    • @ericschmitz03
      @ericschmitz03 10 місяців тому +3

      Yeah I can't wait for the opportunity to play competitive games with the lower latency! Starlink will be a gamechanger for the better. And in the grander picture it helps fund humanities expansions to Mars and beyond. It really should've had a bigger spot in this video

  • @taurus5468
    @taurus5468 11 місяців тому +11

    As an ex-fan of Southwest Airlines I can attest to their usual crummy WiFi on short flights to Denver. LUV is no longer their mission statement! My best WiFi experience was on JetBlue to London Heathrow from New York JFK. Nothing beats fast WiFi while crossing The Pond.

  • @PascalGienger
    @PascalGienger 11 місяців тому +48

    How nice where the days where the flight (or the train ride) were the options to NOT need to read work emails, or bother with "important" calls... That was real freedom.

    • @extra_ice_girl
      @extra_ice_girl 11 місяців тому +4

      I couldn't agree more! I miss the days where we couldn't be reached after hours/weekends and on vacation.

    • @___beyondhorizon4664
      @___beyondhorizon4664 11 місяців тому +4

      My flight from LAX to Kuala Lumpur in 2018, I mistakenly sign in for WiFi on my vacation. In the middle of the Pacific ocean, a work call via WeChat, I didn't want to hang up but I also don't want my student to know I'm on vacation. But it keeps ringing, I just ignored it. Looking back, I should have turned off the south, but I was too exhausted to figured it out, I usually just go to sleep on all flights. During meals, I watched free new movies, time to catch up on new Hollywood release, which doesn't require WiFi.
      When I reach my destination overseas, I have time to buy local Sim cards to connect. If the flight offers free wifi, it's good to check hotel confirmation or pickup when approaching my destination. I don't need to watch UA-cam on flight, sleep is more important.

    • @hendrx
      @hendrx 11 місяців тому +1

      You still have that option

    • @johnmills2629
      @johnmills2629 11 місяців тому +5

      "Ok, gotta go, we are about to takeoff, I'll call you when we land..." *peacefully disconnect*

    • @___beyondhorizon4664
      @___beyondhorizon4664 11 місяців тому +1

      @@johnmills2629 once I got a call from a former colleague from China leaving LAX, I was at Costco register about to pay, so I said, I'm driving, can't talk, I have to go. 😁 People at the checkout line can hear me lying 😅 but I didn't want to keep chatting

  • @L33tSkE3t
    @L33tSkE3t 10 місяців тому +25

    I think Hawaiian airlines started using Starlink which is pretty decent so hopefully more airlines will adopt newer constellation network systems.
    Since Starlink sats are in low earth orbit the latency is much better

    • @ketfoen
      @ketfoen 10 місяців тому +3

      It would be awesome to be able to play Diablo 4 on such a flight 😅

    • @L33tSkE3t
      @L33tSkE3t 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ketfoen Lol, yeah. That would be pretty cool. Maybe on the Steam Deck or ASUS ROG Ally. It would be awesome if they could host the first “Mile High” LAN party of like Halo or CS Go or something (If it hasn’t already been done) with every passenger connected, playing together.

  • @cats400
    @cats400 11 місяців тому +5

    The fastest wifi onboard my Air France flight from Houston to Paris was €30… Messaging was free, but didn’t feel like splurging for the wifi

  • @megamanx466
    @megamanx466 10 місяців тому +4

    What I learned from my in-flight wifi experience for AA & Delta in 2022 is to not use it and to just download an appropriate amount of content to watch beforehand. I also probably won't use those airlines again for another decade for other reasons relating to flight delays & such. Maybe then I'll use in-flight wifi.

  • @MrCommunistGen
    @MrCommunistGen 11 місяців тому +9

    At 6:00 the Viasat-3 performance is 1 terabit per second (Tbps), not 1 terabyte per second (TBps). What's the difference? A factor of 8, with 8 bits in a byte.
    Under most conditions, network bandwidth is measured in bits per second, not bytes per second, with an appropriate prefix prepended to scale the unit to be more humanly readable.
    I really wish content publishers big and small could get this right.

    • @drabberfrog
      @drabberfrog 11 місяців тому

      Ikr, imagine messing up by almost an order of magnitude lol. Kilobyte megabyte gigabyte terabyte, they're all really the same thing right? Lol

    • @MrCommunistGen
      @MrCommunistGen 11 місяців тому +2

      @@drabberfrog yeah. It's a pet peeve of mine. I was trying to keep my original post brief, but the example I thought of to illustrate how big a deal the difference is:
      I accidentally hit the box in the road with my car at 10mph.
      vs
      I accidentally hit the box in the road with my car at 80mph.
      I think that's an example just about everyone can identify with.

    • @drabberfrog
      @drabberfrog 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MrCommunistGen or the difference between groceries costing $100 vs groceries costing $800 per person per week. That's the difference between budgeting for food vs societal collapse.

    • @SethMiller
      @SethMiller 10 місяців тому +3

      Even worse, that's the total capacity of the satellite once all the ground stations are online. The individual spot beams offer only a fraction of the capacity each. That is, indeed, an unfortunate error in the story.

    • @macuser1232
      @macuser1232 10 місяців тому

      @@SethMillerI’m with you man. Takes a bit of effort to explain to someone without an RF background.

  • @Worldaffairslover
    @Worldaffairslover 11 місяців тому +4

    That $5 wifi on delta is nice fr

  • @twilightspeak
    @twilightspeak 11 місяців тому +2

    Great story - I always did wonder about this. Thanks!

  • @celebrityrog
    @celebrityrog 11 місяців тому +18

    I used to only fly airlines that offered GoGo WiFi (Virgin America, United). I now only fly on JetBlue because they have the most reliable and FREE WiFi in my experience. Being a T-Mobile customer also means we get free wifi on partner airlines, United being one of them. So having WiFi and it being FREE and usable is enough to get me to be a loyal customer on any route I can find.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 5 місяців тому +1

      Stop being so easily manipulated by the word FREE. 🤣🤣🤣
      No such thing as FREE Wi-Fi on airplanes.
      YOU are PAYING for it one way or another.
      You're paying for GoGo Wi-Fi, etc because you pay for T-Mobile. It's NOT free.
      Even if you're not on T-Mobile, any "free" Wi-Fi comes from you paying for it through the ticket price.

  • @regolith1350
    @regolith1350 11 місяців тому +2

    I wish people would stop saying "wifi" to meant internet, especially tech journalists. Wifi just means a wireless connection to a ROUTER. That's it. It's just a connection method, just like "fiber optic" or "copper wire" or "ethernet".

  • @thamithwala3011
    @thamithwala3011 11 місяців тому +6

    "We are chasing the at home experience in the sky" I think this quote sums it up 😂😅😊

  • @NicksDynasty
    @NicksDynasty 11 місяців тому +3

    Best airline in the US

  • @TopShot501st
    @TopShot501st 11 місяців тому +9

    I still download all my stuff for flights

    • @JT_771
      @JT_771 11 місяців тому +1

      Definitely. Much better to do that. Takes all the worry out of it. Then, for now, the wifi can be there if you need it for low data stuff, like texts, etc.

  • @LMays-cu2hp
    @LMays-cu2hp 11 місяців тому

    Very nice report.

  • @andykaefer8541
    @andykaefer8541 11 місяців тому +18

    Currently watching this on a Delta flight for free… thanks Delta!

  • @ninjanerdstudent6937
    @ninjanerdstudent6937 11 місяців тому +22

    I never use WiFi on airplanes. That's my self-care time to listen to music and movies and play video games. People may as well use the very large offline storage that phones have these days.

  • @QueenASMR2019
    @QueenASMR2019 10 місяців тому +2

    I used to fly American exclusively but just switched to Delta once they offered free WiFi in February. I fly weekly!

  • @user-lr4ip7lp3k
    @user-lr4ip7lp3k 10 місяців тому +1

    I work with this in the cruise space - satellite internet providers have been upping their game significantly since 2021. There's a lot more capacity available now.

  • @material___
    @material___ 10 місяців тому +4

    I think we have all, as a society, expected everything to be served quickly, fast, and now. The whole now now now concept we have developed really bothers me.

    • @ambi3nttech
      @ambi3nttech 10 місяців тому

      For real. People really can't survive with JUST slow or no internet for a few hours? Take a nap or something or read a book.

  • @bottlecapbrony366
    @bottlecapbrony366 11 місяців тому +6

    I have flown many times and I expect that the internet will be garbage on a plane so I am not upset since I don't get my hopes up. My problem is when they try to charge for it, or they try to get you to spend your member points on it. I wouldn't care if they simply gave it for free.

  • @katrinabryce
    @katrinabryce 10 місяців тому +1

    In the UK, the most popular flight route is London to Dublin. That is probably also the most popular flight route in Ireland, but I don't have the numbers for that.
    The actual flying time on that route is about 40 minutes, the rest of the flight time is take off, landing, embarkation, and disembarkation. For a flight of that length, Wifi isn't something I would be willing to pay for. For longer journeys, then maybe I might consider it.
    Having said that, if there wasn't the Irish Sea in the way, that would be a high speed rail route rather than a flight route, much like London to Paris is. The trains on that route have Wifi, but you can also get an excellent 4G signal which tends to be faster than the Wifi, so if the Wifi wasn't free, I wouldn't use it.

  • @SirGiggles
    @SirGiggles 10 місяців тому +1

    Who made the decision to put horrendous high pitch whistles as background music at 7:40?? A great video with a headache inducing audio decision.

  • @WilliamCarterII
    @WilliamCarterII 10 місяців тому +1

    I actually frlew Turkish today from Ethiopia to LA and it was $34 US. It didn't work well. Only got good service for like 3 hours of the 20ish hours in the air

  • @1ledp621
    @1ledp621 11 місяців тому +2

    Crazy how all that wiring has to have a zip tie every 4 inches 😂

  • @ketfoen
    @ketfoen 10 місяців тому

    I had free 30mins wifi on AA, just watch 2 ads. It was great to been able to message app to friends and family 12km in the air.

  • @dragoonzen
    @dragoonzen 11 місяців тому +2

    I love being able to watch the in-flight free movies. Especially, un-interrupted.😊

  • @Wolfgoddess56
    @Wolfgoddess56 11 місяців тому +1

    Was on a southwest flight two weeks ago from Stl to Florida. They had a free wifi connection throuf their site but if you wanted anything more it was $8. Didnt bother. I was able to listen to music and I downloaded some shows and music before boarding.

  • @imtisalzafar
    @imtisalzafar 5 місяців тому

    The wifi on etihad Earlier this month was amzing. Im surprised how much it has improved in 3 years

  • @bananagopop
    @bananagopop 10 місяців тому

    I've flown with Porter in Canada and they include complementary wifi on board. It was surprisingly fast.

  • @chiphailstone589
    @chiphailstone589 4 місяці тому

    Except on 9/11 2001 around Philly headed to DC, some cells and wifi went 300+ miles

  • @rex1371
    @rex1371 10 місяців тому

    I learn so much from CNBC bits

  • @speedbird-777
    @speedbird-777 10 місяців тому +2

    It's almost unbelievable how far the technology has come.

  • @marioex497
    @marioex497 11 місяців тому +9

    I’ve flown a handful of times in the past few years, mainly with American and United. I’ve never had full access to free Wi-Fi without having to pay for it. Hoping this changes soon!

    • @objective_evaluation
      @objective_evaluation 11 місяців тому +1

      Consumers should have been provided Wi-Fi and more leg room when we bailed them out in 2020.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 5 місяців тому

      No such thing as Free Wi-Fi on airplanes.
      The fee is simply included in the ticket price.
      Stop being delusional. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan 10 місяців тому +1

    Boomer here, I remember when calling from the air cost like 8 bucks a minute... you could hear the slurping sound from the bank account...

  • @TheDwightMamba
    @TheDwightMamba 11 місяців тому +3

    I give UA-cam $12/month and download videos for flights. It's basically the same price for a single flight. About 30 cents per day.

  • @moonkey537
    @moonkey537 11 місяців тому

    8:15 "we started WAY BACK from 2019" 😂😂😂😂

  • @StringerNews1
    @StringerNews1 10 місяців тому +1

    Wi-Fi isn't the Internet, and the Internet isn't Wi-Fi.

  • @speedbird-777
    @speedbird-777 10 місяців тому +2

    It's funny how we complain about not being able to stream YT or netflix when we are literally flying 900 kmph at 35-40,000 ft in the air.
    Then again, I support the idea of good wifi onboard. It will keep the Karens busy in their phones

  • @Shax117
    @Shax117 11 місяців тому

    I used to love being on a plane for a long haul flight because there no as no way my office can contact me and for 10 hours plus, I could just relax. Not anymore as you don't have the excuse of having no wifi on a plane. :)

  • @SM-1010
    @SM-1010 11 місяців тому +1

    Just back after traveling for more than 36hrs and this was literally on my mind

  • @superal9
    @superal9 11 місяців тому +3

    My flight from sydney to melbourne using Qantas was incredible, I could stream for F1 live qualify and the most important thing, the wifi is free 😊

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 5 місяців тому

      The in-flight Wi-Fi is NOT free.
      YOU are PAYING for it.
      It's included in your ticket price.
      Stop being so easily manipulated by the word FREE. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @cyclicmusings2661
    @cyclicmusings2661 11 місяців тому +2

    I avoid airlines that don't have wifi if the flight is over 2 hours but, but it's hit or miss with the ones that do offer it. I don't even need video streaming or anything fancy. All I'm doing is reading articles, emails, and forums. It's incredibly frustrating when a large chunk of the plane is streaming videos and making my low intensity browsing very slow. Here's to better flight wifi in the future.

  • @snaplash
    @snaplash 10 місяців тому +1

    Wifi on airplanes? Last time I flew anywhere, it was airplane mode only. No internet.

  • @ytzpilot
    @ytzpilot 11 місяців тому

    National Radio on the Steam Train was once the latest technology that didn’t always work too 😂

  • @friedrichhoffmann4248
    @friedrichhoffmann4248 11 місяців тому +1

    The food quality on plane is my biggest complaint

  • @nvidiasniper
    @nvidiasniper 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks CNBC for covering this story. Much appreciated 🎉

  • @clytemnestra
    @clytemnestra 10 місяців тому +1

    The new Delta Wi-Fi systems have been pretty good in my experience

  • @MuhammadAthallahArsyaf
    @MuhammadAthallahArsyaf 11 місяців тому +1

    I mean, its literally a moving tube in the sky. I can’t even get good reception on the ground. So, are we even surprised at this point?

  • @LNCRFT
    @LNCRFT 10 місяців тому

    Wi-Fi on airplanes. Seems like a luxury to me. Never had it on a flight.

  • @techcafe0
    @techcafe0 10 місяців тому +1

    the correct terminology is TerraBITS (Tb) and GigaBITS (Gb) per second, not TerraBytes (TB) or GigaBytes (GB) per sec

  • @praystation
    @praystation Місяць тому

    @praystation
    It depends. Singapore airline business cabin wifi was great. I could even play counterstrike on my laptop, with around 400-600ms ping.

  • @hamidkarzai7096
    @hamidkarzai7096 10 місяців тому

    Its free on Qantas in Australia. I'm always able to stream HD videos.

  • @kevinfernandez9999
    @kevinfernandez9999 10 місяців тому +1

    Starlink will be a game changer

  • @BDUDE
    @BDUDE 10 місяців тому

    I was on Qatar Airways recently, and the onboard wifi was free and super fast. It was so fast that I could easily scroll and watch social media videos and shorts along with browsing the internet and messaging my peers

  • @reddcube
    @reddcube 10 місяців тому +1

    Free Wi-Fi as has less complaints.
    Paid Wi-Fi you expect websites and files to load quickly, but free wifi is can be slow as molasses. It's till better than no wifi.

  • @ejonesss
    @ejonesss 11 місяців тому +1

    also you nee to not advertize in advance.
    no "wifi coming soon to flights" because that builds demand and everyone hits it and they run out of bandwidth.
    aol did that and it nearly collapsed them in the 90s when aol offered unlimited internet via it's dialup lines.

  • @1mochadelightable
    @1mochadelightable 10 місяців тому

    Delta has the best Wifi experience hands down & its free w/my cell phone carrier…❤ The little perks matter 😜

  • @stgermain6488
    @stgermain6488 11 місяців тому +2

    If you’re flying Business/FC Wi-Fi should be complementary or at least a code for free 200mb of data

  • @TravellingTechie
    @TravellingTechie 11 місяців тому

    My word, we didn't even have Wi-Fi on board 10 years ago and now people are complaining about the speed of the connection? Honestly, get a grip. It's like people absolutely cannot be out of contact with anyone for any length of time.

  • @dayman4753
    @dayman4753 10 місяців тому +1

    Maybe it's because you are 30000 feet in the air moving 450 mph going through clouds etc. The fact they can even offer crappy wifi is damn amazing.

  • @Pea-G
    @Pea-G 10 місяців тому +1

    I’ve only recently been on American and Delta flights, but Delta’s was so much better AND free? Yeah, I’d stick to Delta if I wasn’t so cheap.

  • @Zuul47
    @Zuul47 10 місяців тому +1

    They need to make a deal with Starlink

  • @guypc1991
    @guypc1991 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m amazed this video does not mention OneWeb at all. Merging with Eutelsat to create a hybrid LEO and GEO and Aviation is one of their key markets

    • @SethMiller
      @SethMiller 10 місяців тому +1

      I believe some of my comments about OneWeb being in the market got cut in the edit process. Aero is a key service market for the company, but it also is a wholesale provider, not directly selling to airlines. Intelsat has secured a couple customers already with the inclusion of OneWeb's capacity as part of the contract. Panasonic Avionics is also a distribution partner for the tech. But because OneWeb isn't selling directly it is harder to explain how it will have a direct impact on the market.
      The proposed Eutelsat deal is also interesting, of course, but more around how it may require the company to get into the direct airline sales/support business to deliver the best value when it does try to make those sales. Right now Eutelsat operates mostly as a wholesale provider in the aero market.

  • @cameron00148
    @cameron00148 11 місяців тому +15

    TBH - I'll be satisfied with a 120V power outlet that is conveniently located under my seat so that I can charge my electronic device. Wi-Fi is unnecessary in a plane and I think it's good to disconnect once in awhile. What the airline industry should be working on is fixing the control tower staff shortage!!

    • @JJs_playground
      @JJs_playground 11 місяців тому +7

      Being stuck in a tin can for 4 to 8 hours (or even longer) is the last place you want to disconnect.

    • @maxsaviation9512
      @maxsaviation9512 11 місяців тому +3

      ⁠​⁠@@JJs_playgroundunless you love flying 😂 some aircraft are actually very comfortable though

    • @maxsaviation9512
      @maxsaviation9512 11 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠@@JJs_playgroundunless you love flying 😂 some aircraft are actually very comfortable though

    • @JJs_playground
      @JJs_playground 11 місяців тому +1

      @@maxsaviation9512 sure, but let's say you're on a 10 hour flight in economy after an hour or two then what do you do?

    • @cameron00148
      @cameron00148 11 місяців тому +3

      @@JJs_playground - to be more specific I was referring to disconnecting from social media. Whenever I have a long flight, I take a sleeping pill, but my music on shuffle, and be KTFO until either dinner/breakfast comes or we land lol

  • @PSYCHOV3N0M
    @PSYCHOV3N0M 5 місяців тому +1

    6:00 There's a difference between TeraBYTES vs TeraBITS.
    Same difference goes for MegaBYTES vs MegaBITS.

  • @crabkilla
    @crabkilla 11 місяців тому +2

    LouisCK warned us about these people . . .

  • @Sandeee
    @Sandeee 11 місяців тому

    Flew Qatar from Bangalore to London via Doha. Both legs had great Internet (Inmarsat).

  • @pogzie
    @pogzie 6 місяців тому

    Flew United a couple of months ago, free "messaging" wifi doesnt even let you send/view media. Budget airline Porter just blows everyone out of the water.

  • @r1_anon
    @r1_anon 8 місяців тому +1

    if you are streaming UA-cam in flight, you are why the Internet is slow.

  • @tashikoweinstein435
    @tashikoweinstein435 10 місяців тому

    This why I would bring a book, a CD/Cassette player, a movie player, or just look out the window!!

  • @seandobson499
    @seandobson499 2 місяці тому

    If this ever becomes available on UK planes, I hope that earphones are made compulsory, or flying on a plane will drive you crazy.

  • @herrunsinn774
    @herrunsinn774 11 місяців тому

    09:58 Those QR codes work. 😊

  • @XOPOIIIO
    @XOPOIIIO 11 місяців тому +1

    Just download everything you need. God, it's just few hours.

  • @Zergcerebrates
    @Zergcerebrates 11 місяців тому +3

    I was on Delta from LAX to SYD, the WiFi was awesome. I could upload videos and send pics pretty quickly.

  • @MarijuanaCanada
    @MarijuanaCanada 10 місяців тому +6

    No-one will believe me. But by far the best internet experience ive had on a plane was with Spirit Airlines. Blazing fast and was only like $4. I think it was in demo phase at the time but it really impressed me at the time.

  • @josephleeson
    @josephleeson 10 місяців тому +1

    Latency, which will not go well with high orbiting satellites - Starlink/Spacex has the best chance in the long run.

  • @jjeverson2269
    @jjeverson2269 11 місяців тому

    I usually can’t even get to the screen to pay for the wifi

  • @Parasprites
    @Parasprites 7 місяців тому

    i fully do not expect internet on a flight, the fact that we even have it regularly now is a miracle

  • @sukkykoit2164
    @sukkykoit2164 10 місяців тому

    i have experience with Singapore Airlines with free 2 hours wifi on board from Singapore Singapore to Japan! super good very fast no complaint. i have extended 1 hour of pay USD3.99 / hour of wifi! Overall of 3 hours total time usage no any complaints!

  • @jbar_85
    @jbar_85 11 місяців тому

    Free TV and Free Wi-Fi are the main reasons I fly JetBlue religiously. Yeah they’re always late, but I enjoy those perks a lot. I like reading on the airplane and I cannot sleep on an airplane but it’s nice to watch a movie or tv show and text my friends. It’s nice to watch Netflix or other streaming services.

  • @pius_xiv
    @pius_xiv 11 місяців тому

    6:00 bits or bytes??

  • @Visage171
    @Visage171 11 місяців тому

    Spend 8$ for Wifi on southwest multiple times, and crossing over the southwest desert between Texas and Nevada there was zero internet at all, every time I've tried.. Maybe there just isn't coverage, I'm not sure

  • @skullsaintdead
    @skullsaintdead 10 місяців тому +1

    I think the issue is that companies do NOT specify how patchy the connection will be. They don't state it'll be based off the area you're flying (re: satellites), the age of the plane, the number of other people trying to connect & draw power. This info (specifically which flight routes have good wi-fi coverage) should be explained to the consumer, so people don't buy something that isn't fit for purpose (not high enough speeds) or simply doesn't work (which is against consumer law in Australia and most of Europe). Airlines get away with a fair bit (e.g. failing to provide refunds or making it time consuming and difficult), they really need to be held accountable when they're raking in billions.

    • @TomCruz54321
      @TomCruz54321 10 місяців тому +2

      Yeah consumer protection in the USA is really weak. In my country, paying for wifi and not getting the service you paid for can get the company in deep trouble. Even the act of making refunds difficult can get you in trouble.

  • @aerialbugsmasher
    @aerialbugsmasher 11 місяців тому +3

    Louis CK has the best take on airplane wifi and flying in general on "Everything is Amazing and nobody is happy" skit.
    After a decade flying for the airlines I've learned people will literally complain about anything. People take for granted you're in a freaking chair in the sky, often at least 7 miles high, going 80% the speed of sound, doing a trip that a little over 100 years ago would've taken a month and likely killed you.
    But people expect caviar and lobster, flawless gigabit internet, and complimentary lap dances from our flight attendants even from their deeply discounted tickets they got from a 3rd party vendor with zero frills.
    Also, in my experience when I'm riding in the back, GoGo and Viasat are pretty lenient with refunds. They have no way of knowing I'm an employee so it's not like I get special treatment. Don't bother asking the airline directly use the providers themselves they always have a chat option that you can use in flight that usually almost always works if everything else is slow.

    • @___beyondhorizon4664
      @___beyondhorizon4664 11 місяців тому

      😂🤣😂 after my meals, I just want to sleep, I cannot function without sleep. I don't want to hear people texting.

    • @teleguy5699
      @teleguy5699 10 місяців тому

      "But people expect caviar and lobster, flawless gigabit internet, and complimentary lap dances from our flight attendants even from their deeply discounted tickets they got from a 3rd party vendor with zero frills."
      I just don't want to see some spoiled Karen starting fights with flight attendants, no bare feet on my armrest, somebody in full recline with 2 inches of space between seat, hair flopped over the back of the seat blocking my monitor or laying on my tray, some ass-clown with a steamer trunk for a carry on taking up all the overhead space, and not be on a purposefully overbooked flight that they bump you from and then give you a meal voucher for your "troubles".
      That's all. I'm from Maine. I'll get the lobster when I get home. 🦞

  • @governoret
    @governoret 11 місяців тому +3

    honestly this is probably a (generally uncommon) example of market competition (capitalism) actually working in the aviation space - from having a duopoly in manufacturers to the insane size of the airline lobby I think having airlines compete for having low cost high quality Internet onboard will be a net positive for customer experience

  • @samsawesomeminecraft
    @samsawesomeminecraft 11 місяців тому +1

    why viasat instead of starlink?

  • @ericcarabetta1161
    @ericcarabetta1161 11 місяців тому +4

    It's honestly a technological marvel that they are able to get _any_ of this stuff to work; it just blows my mind.

  • @anantasarker1830
    @anantasarker1830 10 місяців тому

    I just made the round trip from NY to Grenada in JetBlue. It was covered by Viasat. The wifi was "Free." But it worked for the last 30 minutes when we reached almost NY. Wifi was trash at best!