Could Toronto legislate a maximum temperature in apartments?
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- A coalition of tenant and environmental advocacy organizations are demanding Toronto bring in a maximum temperature bylaw. Similar to the way landlords must keep units heated when it's cold, the coalition wants the city to legislate protections to keep residences no warmer than 26 degrees when outdoor temperatures increase. A punishing heat wave has descended over large parts of Ontario, Quebec and Atlantic Canada. (June 18, 2024 / The Canadian Press)
Why. We pay a tax to stop the weather. Trust the science.
climate and weather are two different things
@@mstar7520Irrelevant you clown
@@mstar7520 We were told if we cut plant food emmissions the "climate" would go back to "normal," (not sure if normal was the ice age, medieval warming period, or maybe World War II), but anyways we aren't supposed to have heatwaves, blizzards, hurricanes or tornadoes anymore.
@@BillWhatcott I don't know if you got that from Alex Jones or QAnon but whoever told you that, don't listen to them! Instead trust the consensus of scientific experts, who never would have said such a thing.
Wow. Is this MENSA's daily meeting in here? A thread only for the most critical of thinkers
The costs are going to be pushed onto renters anyway.
How about fixing infrastructure instead of spending millions renaming roads and legislating comfort
Those rainbow crosswalks aren't gonna paint themselves.
Seniors literally cook to death in high heat, it's not about comfort
the "I didn't listen to the main point of the article" guy right here
@@Sentryalmighty sorry I'm not taking your DEADLY HEAT DOME seriously
@@jiggycalzone8585 dude literally just like, be in the street on a hot sunny day, and then move to a grassy field/park and you will feel a difference in the heat emanating from the ground. Now imagine, that but big.
Or alternativley, put yourself in a tent with a space heater on a sunny day and see how long you last in a place with little air and 30+c temps
Not a landlord but people can purchase an air conditioner.
lol god, people are dumb
Some landlords ban them.
Many landlords won't let you use it.
How on earth are they going to enforce it?
Talk about a backlog in the making.
And if they actually do, what will change?
It’s too hot.
Here’s a ticket.
Or, you know, spend a zillion that you don’t have to install a/c.
And pass that capital cost along to the tenants.
Nice problem-solving skills. 🤦♂️
It's called an electric fan. Get one. They cost $20 brand new. Or you can pick one up for free off the side of the road.
I used to live in west Africa. 30c+ was the normal everyday temperature there, and I didn't have air conditioning. What did I use? A fan.
If I didn't have access to electricity, I'd go sit outside, or I'd fan myself with a notebook or something out of my backpack.
Opening the windows at night helps a lot too... Nobody should be dying from 26c temperature... That's less than normal body temperature...
hahahaha ummm fans don't change the temperature!! maybe go back and take grade 9 science
I'm guessing that you are a heartless landlord.
@@andrewhill3969 Right back at you. I never said they do. So go back and brush up on your reading comprehension.
I also encourage you to look up convection, and evaporation. Displacing the heat to keep your body cool is what a fan does.
Also, it's just silly to challenge someone who's speaking from a position of authority. I lived it. 6 years with no air conditioning in a place where 30c is the normal temperature, on hot days it would go up to 40c. And there were only two seasons. Dry season, and Wet season. Bone dry heat, or thick humidity that sticks to you. Regardless of the season, a fan is what I used.
@@andrewhill3969only white people complain about dumb stuff like this….yes it’s hot, get over it, welcome to earth
@@andrewhill3969 Keep in mind that in Greece we have 40 degrees in the shade since the 60s and in India they are sipping Chai at 46 degrees Celcius. Having temperatures above 26 degrees in Canada and calling it a deadly heat wave caused by climate change is a joke.
The even bigger issue is the mandating from the government on how free people can live.
They don't have the right to enforce the temperature of your living space for christ sake.
lol god, people are dumb
They are not telling people what to do in their own apartments. This is to force landlords to keep temperatures in rentals low enough that renters don't cook to death.
@@bluedot5150 Cook to death? Ridiculous. Do you know how much this will cost people who own a house and rent it? Keep in mind that in Greece we have 40 degrees in the shade and in India they are sipping Chai at 46 degrees Celcius. Having temperatures above 26 degrees in Canada and calling it a deadly heat wave caused by climate change is a joke.
No, the even bigger issue is the mandating from government on how to save free people from dying. These are basic regulations to maintain minimum standards of living. They don’t have the right to enforce your temperature, but you have the right to live and that necessitates the ability to control your temperature.
@@bluedot5150 Get a couple of fans and learn to be self-reliant.
What about those landlord that restrain you from installing an air conditioning.
I wonder what they dont want to legislate? That must be a very small list.
We should 100% legislate the max.........price/temp. If prices weren't extortionist, we might be able to afford AC units.
So if it gets above that limit every one will be forced out and moved into the politicians homes that made the policy?
This is a great idea ! It would do wonders for ppl & save lives. My friend in Windsor Ont. Lives in an apartment bldg. That has heat blasting in hallways in June. For some reason the apts get extremely hot too even while my friend runs his own AC. Complaints about the heat fall on deaf ears. Elderly folks reside in that building too & I fear for their safety BC of heat ,plugs not working ,etc .
Not in benefit housings plz. Additional burden on tax payers to keep jobless enjoy air conditioning whole year
I don’t understand this there’s a existing law for winter which is I believe 21° in Ontario anyway, so it would make sense to have some thing similar for the summer but to regulate it in the summer you’d have to look at all the different factors like do they pay their own Hydro is it all inclusive because if they pay their own Hydro, then they can just buy their own air conditioner if it’s all inclusive again, they just buy their own air conditioner and if the landlord wants to raise the rent to cover the additional Hydro expense they do so the way that they legally are allowed to do once a year the regulated amount.
But that requires work from the landlord, (monitoring and charging for electricity) so unless it's required landlords don't do extra work. Doing extra work cuts into profits.
Currently heat minimums are controlled by the municipality not the province.
You thought rents were high now? Wait til we mandate ac for all the people that couldn't add orders one in the first place. How will this impact the electric car grid that you haven't built yet?
the U.N welcomes you to the new world oder
This will definitely make apartments more affordable.
What they need to do is regulate rent costs and immigration
Have you lost your mind? My first car in 1980, big comfortable full-size Ford, did not have a/c. Now every car must have it, and nobody is asking how much heat it is spewing to the environment. (Notice how many cars are parked with the engine running to keep them cool.) The same stands for the new apartments and houses. It takes a politician to name it a climate change. Add to it a million of a/c units for older apartments, and we’ll be forced to emigrate o Antarctica.
And the war on landlords continues. About the only thing this is going to do is maybe add more condos to the housing market as building owners start converting their apartments to condos and selling them off.
Ridiculous. Do you know how much this will cost people who own a house and rent it? Keep in mind that in Greece we have 40 degrees in the shade and in India they are sipping Chai at 46 degrees Celcius. Having temperatures above 26 degrees in Canada and calling it a deadly heat wave caused by climate change is a joke.
It is a joke and it's concerning how willfully weak and incompetent people have become. I grew up here in Ontario and we worked in the fields and barns in brutal heat, we went to school without A/C and hospitals, businesses, stores, factories didn't have A/C and we coped with it and we survived, these people act today like they're all going to perish. These ones will never survive or cope well with a true catastrophic event in life I don't think.
Damn expect your rent to skyrocket if this is what your seeking.
whats going to happen when you keep pushing crap on landlords and they say "well this country is to expensive" and not you have no buildings and more homeless.
can you not go out and get an ac like i did ? o i cant afford it.... im a single father on low income and i got one for a couple hundred. put down the crack and buy an ac
Some landlords don’t allow AC units in the building unless the lease agreement allows it.
Good, if landlords left and families bought their properties we would all be better for it. Please go
And if the tenant breaks the ac who is responsible for fixing it?
Cause the outrageous rental costs are not enough ?
@@kimberlysinardi3476 Fine, go buy your own property and you pay the enormous taxes, maintenance and insurances that are constantly being jacked up by criminal scams like "carbon tax". Embrace your liberal-ndp utopia!!
You really gotta hate yourself to be a landlord in Ontario it just keeps getting worse
are you serious? They literally charge 2000$ a month for a studio in this city the least they could do is make it temperature regulated but they don’t. Renters have it bad
Wait you can't complain how expensive that is that's cheap after this it will be 5 to 6k a month.
@@kimberlysinardi3476 Don't forget they also have to also pay taxes, maintenance, insurances which are being mercilessly and criminally jacked up with more and more bureaucratic BS and regulations being put on them, its not like they're pocketing mountains of money, some might be but not most.
Than don't be one, sell your property. No landlords would fix a lot of problems.
@@bluedot5150 Childish and incompetent, sit down clown.
Why wouldn't they legislate? Covid worked like a charm.
The red Star
I agree with this. Especially when you live in an older high rise condo or apartment. Before my building turned on the AC, it was 30+ degrees. We pay maintenance fees, we are responsible if AC/heat unit breaks, but we are at the mercy of the management to turn it on. Every single person I've talked to in my condo building complains, and nothing ever gets done. Yet, our maintenance fees keep going up.
Calm yourselves down before you start telling me to move elsewhere.
The 30°wasn't from the furnace it was from heat being trapped in the building...you all have thermostats and I highly doubt a single person anywhere sets it at 30 let alone 26!
It Darwin’s law
Keep in mind that in Greece we have 40 degrees in the shade since the 60s and in India they are sipping Chai at 46 degrees Celcius. Having temperatures above 26 degrees in Canada and calling it a deadly heat wave caused by climate change is a joke.
@@huggybear3098 I know that. My units were off since mid March, but the thermostat was saying it was 31 degrees mid May
This is a train wreck in waiting. Legislating the landlords must be responsible both for keep tenants cool in summer while simultaneously requiring them to follow increasingly costly green energy mandates will guarantee that there will be fewer, far more expensive (but cooler) units for rent. Sucking and blowing for political gain - at the expense of the people it's meant to target.
Legislate bureaucracy not to waste money on refugees and benefit housings anymore. Tax dollars be spent on those who earn them same way people can only use their EI
Tenants can, refusal to pay rent for breach of contract
What contract - do landlords contract to keep you in comfortable temps??
Spot the landlords in the comment sections
Found the person who expects people to let people live in their property at a loss.
It's just common sense bro. Take care of yourself. Your landlord can't control the weather. Don't rely on your landlord to keep you comfortable in your own apartment.
If your apartment is hot enough to give you heatstroke, open a window, go buy a fan, go sit outside, go hang out at a mall or something.
If the landlord has to install a bigger air conditioning on the building, that's going to take weeks to do, and you're going to end up paying for it.
People lost their lives because they refused to be resourceful and take care of themselves. That's ridiculous.
@@SilverScythe65 Well-said! Landlords are NOT your parents or guardians.
@@SilverScythe65 The problem is landlords won't let you install air conditioning. Every rental I've had, the landlord lost their minds when I mentioned putting in a small window unit.
@@bluedot5150 I live by the motto "It's easier to ask for forgiveness, than it is to ask for permission."
Also, there are some portable indoor units that you can get, you just have to empty out the water that accumulates every so often. You still have to vent out a window, but it's much more discrete, and easier to take down than a normal window unit.
Buy an AC why is the landlord responsible. Buy an AC stop being a victim.
Most landlords won't let you. They don't want to pay the extra energy cost.
What are we barbarians. This goes without saying.
Non-barbariabs can figure out how to get an air conditioner
They can buy their own AC, loke everyone else.
Many are not permitted to install or use the ac unit even if they buy it. Landlords rules..... Not like everyone.
Then making that an unenforceable clause like "no pets" is the solution, not mandating a temperature
@@lizliz4186 So buy a couple of big fans then, this isn't some catastrophic humanitarian crisis.
Because buying a small air conditioner is such difficult thing to do we need politicians to spend time thinking about it.
Not everyone can afford an air conditioner.
You know food bank use is way up, right?
Rent will go up a few thousand a month. Instead of 3k it will be 7k a month stop complaining.
@@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin Part of the reason that happened is politicians legislating "green" policies that made energy more unaffordable. That in turn makes everything including food more expensive and your hydro bill too, which means it's more exensive to heat yourself in the winter and cool yourself in the summer. Most big cities have declared "climate emergencies" a few years back. Hamilton's "climate emergency" was declared 5 years or so ago. The weather is roughly the same, hot and humid in the summer, as it always has been, but hydro, food and transportation is more expensive. Most manufacturing is gone. Lots of homeless people and drug use now.
LOOOOOL jesus libs going to crazy
Maximum rent 250 bucks lol these old farts think everyone's going to stick around to nurse them when they retire rofl
Olivia would be the only mayor to do this. Other mayor's (and the premiere Doug Ford) will protect landlords and profit.
So landlords should operate at a loss?
Great idea
Comfort shomfort
Now losers who can’t afford ac get it for free ac is a luxury not a necessity
You really gotta hate yourself to be a landlord in Ontario it just keeps getting worse
2000 for a studio is not enough...😢