Metal or Wood Framed Home - Which To Chose?
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He left the studs loose so he could fit the 600mm rockwool sound slabs, pushing each one up tight, so there were no gaps, then screwed top and bottom. I was blown away by how fast the wall went up. With the addition of an L bracket every other stud, the wall is rock solid. MF is the future.
There is absolutely no good reason to use a wood frame over a steel frame which is the closest thing to printing your home and erecting it in days with just a few unskilled guys. You save money on the wood but you loose money on labor so at the end steel is cheaper and lasts forever!
Build your home out of those ibeams they use for skyscrapers, and you can probably survive a tornado, hurricane, and earthquake simultaneously.
Wood is very cheap right now and you could build skyscrapers out of SYP, it’s very strong. If you are cash poor, that’s a good reason. Wood has dropped to pre-pandemic prices.
@@cindystokes8347Plus I heard the steel frame can rust?!
@@australianwoman9696si, como la madera pudrir! El steel framing bien ejecutado es superior a construir con madera.
Not to mention that steel is far stronger, lol. 😅
You forgot to mention wood's susceptibility to aquire mold, which is big one IMO.
wood is scarce & heavy to transport... also crimp & expand, insect prone, plus water/ moisture is the end to your structure... LSF is completely recyclable & has a 50x lifespan compared to timber... good video though
Thank you man
How about ICF exterior and metal frame interior?
Metal framing and trusses covered with insulated roof panels
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Lumber was less $ when I first noticed steel framing. Now lumber cost/ has gone up, yet steel still cost more. I get it though. Still I prefer lumber due to its adaptability. Plus it’s easier for the common person to change and hang things with a nail/screw than on steel.
By chance I been looking into building a house (be in the future) I want it to be my forever home. So I’m thinking about using steel. Do you think a house could be built with steel that has bay windows,attic (that’s walk in) and a basement with a tornado shelter? Or would wood be a better option? Cause i know wood can rot,break and have damage overall cause of moisture and what not but steel seems to last way longer than wood and safer but not sure if they could do a custom built house that’s steel. Do you you think a house that’s custom designed would fit with steel? Also I heard steel is also good for the environment rather than wood. I know everything has its advantages and disadvantages but steels looks like the better choice (definitely in the long run) but how would replacing it be? Compare to wood frame house?
To be honest here, there is no more environmentally friendly material than wood. Wood is basically a carbon incorporated by trees from he atmosphere and the only energy used was to cut and process the tree.
The steel-reinforced concrete on the other hand is a product that is made of the iron ores, aggregate and cement that requires a lot of energy o be produced.
As long as you can afford it you can do whatever shaped and features you want with steel and concrete, but in order to be practical and build you house in smart way you better to hire the architect or be the one who knows what he does.
There is also different types of wood buidlings. I really like heavy timber buildings. I think they are the best all around. The problem of metal are ironically fires. Mental is quite weak as any heat will cause it to elongate i.e. push everything outwards, lose strength and warp. The problem of concrete is you are a prisoner and can not breach a wall when needed to and cracking which will let water in.
You are not building the skyscraper or commercial building, go with steel reinforced concrete. Honestly, if it is one floor house and you dont have a high fire hazard like in California, or tornados/huricanes coming around - anything will do.
I did a build out for a business and I use metallic frame love it
How many tons of steel have been used in that steel house ?
Do you build in Williamson county? We are wanting to get a two story home with a 40X45 footprint priced out for post frame construction.
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He forgot to say that wood is a fire fuel .. metal is not .. Another one is water proofing. Wood does not stand next to water. Galvanized steel can stand next to water .. these are two major problems with wood next to steel.
Thanks. Agree
7:00 you can get the same result by using screws in wooden construction also.
What gauge is the square metal that is being tested ?
I would choose the metal frame not, because of it rusting either. It's the fact more simple to change out then pinewood. If i were to choose wood imagine all the breakage, water damage applied to that of being whole. Next i would have to began going in to more investigative work on how deep a crack in wood will be 😫
@@eustaciabarby9931 一定
@@tuka6147 as a welder for multiple different companies from building just constructions for small building thru machinery even up to skyscrapers. There are so different types of metal. But here in europe even most expensive metal is cheaper. And you sometimes see 12m long 40mm thick and 30mm wide metal beams bend like they would be made from wood, and those are mostly used for highrises, while more stiff ones are used for low rise buildings.
Can one opt for a staggered framing with steel on the outside and Glulam or T-Studs 16" OC on the inside?
Wood has better compressive strength for hanging cabinets.
Its easier to shoot a nail than to screw a screw.
That's probably its only advantage.
Of course! Wood and Steel have pros and cons
Better compressive strength comparing to what?
@vm5571 steel studs.
The weight of cabinets wants to bend the steel studs and won't bend the wood.
Personally, I never encontered this problem, steel sheet studs are ment to work togeather with sheetrock because how thin material is. The problem is in twisting/bending strenth on its own. If you load your cabinets with something so heavy that studs cant hold them, you probably better use the heavy duty racks that are standing on the ground/floor.@@jeffgreen9109
If you use steel, do you save on any inspections?
No. If anything, you have to know what you're doing in order to meet code. You can't use 25 gauge for exterior load bearing walls, you have to use 20 or less. Stud guage becomes a factor depending on whether you're running 16, 19.2, or 24 inch on your stud spacing. Most people will follow engineered plans, but if you're a DIY guy, make sure you know what you're doing in order to pass inspections.
does wood a steel work together in Canada and northern side of USA ?
what do you mean?
@@MyTexasDreamHome I was told that when wood and steel, two different materials, are used together in house construction in cold regions, some problems occur over time. It was said that it could open between materials.
Wood disadvantage is flammable burn to ash
Could you make a video covering insulation and thermal bridging when building with a metal frame. Would wrapping the exterior with rockwool insulation reduce thermal bridging and reduce sound. It would also make the building more secure from fire. This is how I would like to build my house extension, cost permitting.
Good topic! I will try
The possibility of metal framing are endless? I framed nearly everything under the sun, with metal?.
Build a house with wood is crazy, when you get old or die, your child will pay for termite and weathered repair cost,.. take your time for study and build concrete or steel frame... to Build a house not for 20year but 2000year or forever... Build your own real castle even it tiny
Do you have your own castle?
Block steel and concrete for me 200 years of life
Build your castle small if you want big if you want it is up to you.
16 years in the smart home automation business and this is incorrect. I’d rather pre wire a metal frame house than a wood frame house.
What exactly is incorrect?
Your claims that it is easier or preferred wood frame over metal stud for wiring. I can prewire a metal stud house 2 times faster that a wood one. Drilling holes and hammering u nails takes a lot more work that zip ties a self taping screws…a hole punch is waaayyy faster then a hole saw…metal studs come with holes already in them that’s what plastic grommets are for…wiring a metal stud project is easier and faster than wood on many levels.
It takes 2 seconds to drill a hole in a wood stud, and 1 second to pound in a staple. There is no way that you can punch a hole and insert a plastic insert faster than 2 seconds, or screw in a zip tie and feed the loose end through the zipper faster than 1 second
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agree :)
What is the cost of metal frame compared to wooden frame
metal is always more expensive. During Covid, in 2020-2021 cost of wood jumped 3X because of supply chain issues
@@MyTexasDreamHome thank you for responding, your videos are great
2023 update wood stud $3.25 metal stud $9.50
@@2freshprint853 Thank you!
@@2freshprint853 what gauge, size, and supplier are you referring to?
"termites do not eat metal"
YET! LoL
Yea agree
You are correct but the termites urine rusts the metal😇
We can actually growth material matching desired property while large amount of metal affect environment heat , electromagnetic , and wind and hidden blood affect by hidden radiation same as concrete. Wood can manage in growth like food and if treated with liquid and proper paint and heat wook last thousand years and it had no influence in reincarnation human as pet like metal house frame
yes, it make sence
You obviously don't live in the soggy Pacific Northwest, because you didn't mention rot as a disadvantage for wood.
yes, I'm from Texas :)
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Some of what you say is true but some of it is not true. Your video is misleading due to the incorrect content. Steel is superior to wood. Wood burns, wood rots when exposed to water, wood warps, wood expands and contracts based on relative humidity, insects love wood, you are limited in the distances you can span with wood (even engineered lumber), wood houses will make noise , the walls and ceilings will not be straight. And there is a double digit waste factor with wood. Wood studs and joists are heavier to carry and move. You DO need detailed drawings and inspectors must inspect to catch all the mistakes the framers make. On a 2,000 sq. ft. house, the construction is simple. Ceiling heights are generally low, spans are limited, you can pretty much use dimensional lumber from the warehouse guys and many framers are available. There are building codes and someone must be sure the framers are building according to code. Wood is essentially fastened with nails from airguns. Without special steel clips and straps (which are screwed to the wood members) are needed to have wind resistance and counter heavy wind shear loads. The load bearing beams (from dimensional lumber, engineered lumber or Gluelams) are heavy and hard to get into place and difficult to move. Also the spans are limited and longer spans gets very expensive.
CFS (cold formed steel) framing can be used in most any building. On small houses it is comparable to wood in place price. The larger and more complex the structure becomes, you have more advantages with CFS (cold formed steel). CFS is available in multiple gauges. You also have the advantage of either buying the material in lengths depending on the struct We are engineers (civil, structural, geo-technical) and construction managers with 30 to 40 years of experience (each of us). Both require calcs, drawings and engineer's seal and signature for residential structures.
Thank you for a detailed response
I think CFS is a much better product. We can erect a 1200 sq ft frame one story in one day. That includes all trusses. We use frame cad system. We build from 20 gauge to 14 gauge.
True wood assemblers are easier to find. But metal guys are catching up. Wood is cheaper in most cases. But metal lasts longer. Goes up quicker with less waste. I would choose CFS hands down over wood all day long
yes, I also see more and more advantages of using metal in our projects
@@MyTexasDreamHome Can you expand or make adjustments to a steel frame home as fast as a wood frame home? It is so easy to build with wood. Some UA-cam Post-Frame Builders reinforce their wood and retreat it very well to avoid termites, fire, and moisture. It's now 2023, and I wonder if this issue is going to fix in the USA.
@@jackies35 I think it expandable same way it was build. You just need welder instead of hammer
How does that compare to timber framed homes?
It a little more expensive up front. But your getting a frame engineered to 165 mph wind load. Straight walls. No cutting. No welding. No waste. Frame is like giant erector set. Walls are complete ready to set up. Trusses are flat packed and have to be put together. Very simple. Very fast and very strong.
There's no sound
what do you mean?
@@MyTexasDreamHome The audio wasn't working, but now there is a recorded voiceover that sounds fine.
You missed the biggest flaws of wood:
1. exposure to water or moisture will twist bend and deteriorate your structure very quickly (in matter of hours), with rot and mold as a bonus
2. wood will sag and bow no matter what under the load, forget about level floors and walls in as little as 5 years after construction
3. Wood is flammable
Conclusion: build your whole house with a concrete, steel and glass only (including roof) if you want your house to last and not to repair it every other 5 to 10 years.
It takes mor planning and effort for comparable price, but you will forget what is maintenance, will sleep well if tornado or hurricane comes over, or forest fires approach behind the hill.
The Europeans (Germans) are laughing their asses off that we are still building houses from the wood.
Wood has its place, if you build a cabin in the woods, for decoration or furniture but NOT a building material for your home.
I didn't miss it. I tried to tell viewers about all pros and cons of wood vs steel..but at the same time don't make the duration of the video too long..
But generally, I agree with your comments
I have seen so many people building with pre-treated wood (to avoid termites, fire retardants, and mold), and they claim it is sturdy (not as steel thought). They chose wood because it's fast and easy to erect. Can you expand your home with a steel frame? I hope this makes sense to you. I am new.
@@jackies35 "pre-treated" = poison = cancer.... Biggest advantage of steel is no gassing, no poison in the house.
Is aluminum acceptable for internal wall frames and horizontal support? Then vertical support columns can be steel H beams. And then all outer walls be made of rebar and concrete? That sounds good to me... If I had to build it all myself at least...
Its is not a good choice, aluminum is very expensive compared to steel and not as strong, especially at higher temperatures. Some aircraft-grade alloys of aluminum are very strong but expensive and used because of weight advantages. It is not like you are trying to decrease weight on the ground... @@amplecrayon9724
Fire damage to house is a limitation too for wood.
agree
Lol, yes we all throw our houses at concrete walls. Man!
Wood is for campfire and Timber is for construction learn the difference
Thank you for your linguistic wisdom
and your wood/timber comment is for the circular file.
Funny, cause in the end you will use wood too.
Wood burns.
The structural wood problems you said were solved in the early 2000 in Germany, Austria and Italy
But not in USA 🇺🇸
You don't understand how bad contractors are in the US.
@@GoatZilla I feel your pain :)
He forgot to say that wood is a fire fuel .. metal is not .. Another one is water proofing. Wood does not stand next to water. Galvanized steel can stand next to water .. these are two major problems with wood next to steel.
@@kuwaitman you should really read something about wood fire resistance instead of speaking what ignorance says… plus like o have said dead something about xlam and look at some stratigraphies
I deffunately think a wooden house is a complete waste of time and money.
I. Really. Like. Your. Steel. Construction. HOUSE 🏠 👌👌👍
voiceover is weird
I’m still improving my English to have video without voiceover :)
@@MyTexasDreamHome Great presentation!
what a dumb test, i thought it would be something clever
The word is choose, ignoramus
If 99% of residential builders dont have skill of steel construction. It will be hard and double your cost
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This person know s nothing about construction, metal stud framing is WAY easier for electricians and plumbers!!!
Thank you for your comment. It's very important for this person who knows nothing. I wish you all the best
@@MyTexasDreamHome HAHAHAHA! You are too funny!