France’s AMAZING EV Leasing Deal For Low Earners. Can You Get A Tesla On It? 🇫🇷
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- France’s Amazing EV Leasing Deal For Low Earners. Can You Get A Tesla On It? 🇫🇷
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Started to be bit desperate without my weekly dose of Me And Mon Ami...
Nice to here from you guys🎉 promise to do your weekly shopping trip in Italy during spring?
We wanted to go this week but just aren’t up to it!
@@MeandMonAmi have strengt! And guinness...LOL
Wow... Well that's going to be a blow to the rest of Europe! I suppose they can't stay behind now, can they?! Thanks for the tip, Timothy! My best to you, boo and Twiggy for 2024!❤
Obviously if your not in old blighty
Berlin-made Model Y Standard Range should qualify, made in the EU and they can't discriminate, oh no, no, no
Good to see you back Xx
Hlaf back!;
@@MeandMonAmi
To be fair we’d posted before we watched it all so only noticed during the vlog.
Do hope your both fully recovered soon X.
Looking forward to your Italian adventure and hey, love those new graphics 👍
Got to say I think Mr.Boo has great taste in clothes, I love that ‘Polar Bear’ jacket, it’s fab 👌
Thanks Nick
It’s only for people in work. As a retired person I don’t qualify.
Fascinating Tim, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it
I hope you’re both feeling better
Getting there but far from on form!
Very informative update. Interesting to note how ambitious, creative and progressive is French approach, compared with the schemes in place in Canada and US. Thanks for sharing.
Sounds great. Wonder how long the lease would be for? Perpetual? Fat chance of the UK government doing anything remotely like this (we'll be leasing a horse and cart if things keep going the way they are going). Happy new year to you.
Vive la France !❤👍
Great informative video Tim .. Nice to see you back and feeling better . Hope and Boo is on the mend ❤
Happy New Year to you Tim, Mr Boo and Twiggy x This is nuts and a right bargain something you wont see the UK ever do as they scrapped the whole price reduction we once were privvy too, Rob.
Great Idea but at that price with nothing up front this surely has to be a very long lease (lease to own). Otherwise how do they pay for the car? Exiting the lease early will likely be very expensive
Nicely presented with clear concise information well done 👍
Brilliant deal, I got my electric car here in France last summer = I got €7500 with the scrappage scheme. Absolutely love my EV.
May I ask which vehicle you bought?
Interesting video Tim. Our current small fleet consists of a Renault Grand Scenic (Diesel), Renault Kangoo (petrol) and my sans permis Mega Multitruck (diesel). As far as we are concerned up here in the Essonne, we've not considered going electric. However, when I bought my sans permis van second hand in 2018 van I rejected buying the electric versions also available on Le Bon Coin.
Most had some problem with them, hence an initial attractive purchase price. In the main, because the 12 battery cells needed changing. Quite a hefty cost, which would have made going down that route prohibative. So in my mind changing my diesel sans permis to electric would perhaps be an interesitng thing to do. In recent years this would've been difficult due to the rather tight rules concerning specifications and the limitations of the carte grise. But apparently since 2020, the French government have decided to relax the rules concerning retrofitting "thermic" vehicles with an electric motor and batteries. Which could be an attractive option to all.
Bonne année à vous deux.
He should do that with the Ami :) Holly cow £54 a month. Here no money from government , nothing in uk 0£
Very good , tres bien , we need something like this in the UK 🇬🇧:)
Well I certainly am all charged up. That sounds a good deal. Happy New Year to you Tim, Mr. Boo and Twiggy. 😍
Wow what a brilliant sounding scheme. As usual Europe is way ahead of the UK! Maybe M. Macron should have a quiet word with Rishi - well no harm trying I guess! Great to see you’ve recovered and Happy New Year to you, Mr Boo and Twiggy!
Yes recovered a bit! Strikes me as a great scheme. EVS for everyone and boosts European ev industry
Happy New Year! Thank you for the update. Very Interesting.
Nice. Happy New Year 🎉 Love and peace from Denmark ❤
We hope you and Mr Boo had a wonderful Christmas and New year, looking forward to all of this coming years content!
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Bonne année, Tim, Richard and Twiggy!
Wow!!!!! Great video!
Good luck getting a Mokka E took me 2 years to get mine that’s here in the Uk 🇬🇧
Wowzer that’s a wait!
Welcome back. The Model Y comes from Berlin so this should qualify as European ;)
Interesting. Thanks
Time to take your driving test, Tim...
Hey 👋 Tim - here in the States EV s will never catch on due to the long charge time Until they figure out a 5 minute charge they will just be city cars- I will say while working at a golf course as a teen the electric carts were loads more fun over the gas - Glad you both are on the mend ❤️🩹 Happy New Year
I always dreamt of a golf buggy..
Given every car on that list is linked to French manufacturers (understandably) I can't see a Tesla ever getting on there.
Glad to see you up and around. Very interesting video. As other people have commented, this type of scheme is unlikely to come to the UK anytime soon. I don’t think either major political party has the foresight to financially commit to this type of subsidy, mores the pity. Maurice from Malvern UK.
What a great idea, very forward thinking. Obviously it will never catch on in the UK.
I think it makes sense too
I love Renault ❤, they have always been brilliant for me! The new Arkana I have is such a good easy drive, it basically drives itself!
Unless I missed I think you should take your driving test in case you want to change from the Ami to a car !❤
Retired people not allowed to use scheme. Seems a little odd.
Fantastic. Shame that we cannot have this every where
Yes it strikes me as a very good idea
Wow. Sign me up. If only I lived there....
Glad you're back Tim. If they're encouraging you all to lease the electric cars, doesn't that follow the WEF's mantra of "you'll own nothing and be happy"! 😅
The planned "demand" reduction seems to be underway as the 2nd hand market will be awash with worn out battery cars no one wants.
Exactly! They intend to apply this model to absolutely everything. A terrifying prospect.
Don’t be ridiculous. Take your tin foil hat off. 😂😂
Yes. Macron is a puppet of the WEF
@@marcd6897so why the massive subsidy, where is freedom of choice to buy what you want ?
Higher hp Ami (to keep it from being a hazard on the road) and Oli, only. Enough low-income city people to make this good for them and France.
What about L6e like the ami?
Very good to see this scheme.
Happy new year to you both. Still enjoying your efforts but, No Teslas are built in France, Berlin yes, So it is a European thing, and, What a car.
I have a Twingo ZE and would not willingly go back to An internal combustion vehicle for anything. Vive la France.
25 years living here in May and we only came over for a few weeks.
I’ve yet to meet anyone who wants to go back!
Thanks Tim, Intriguing news. €100/month lease deal with no down beats buying hands down, and at 3:48 the lovely old SAAB 900 Turbo was a quaint reminder of what "saving the planet" was nearly 50 years ago.
Your story gave me pause to reflect back to some numbers I shared with you last year about how of how EV's, (especially micro EV's such as Elton) and solar development have to benefit France domestically and globally, based on how little it would cost to France's million barrel a day transportation oil needs. I'll include some of it in case someone might be interested.
I may not be Mr. Macron's biggest fan, but if he is thinking along the lines below, and not just some socialist shell game as some allege, one has to ask "Why not?"
From my correspondence:
"Tim... The reality of replacing 40 million cars in France with $60,000 EV's seems not a likely one, but as Elton costs only about 10% to a Tesla to build and purchase, and requires 1/3 the energy of a Tesla, using a Light EV like Elton or Mr. Boo's scooter for most of the average daily commute and convenience runs could make near carbon zero transport in France a reality much sooner, and for a fraction of the cost of full-sized EVs,
From ChatGPT:
'According to data from the International Energy Agency (IEA), France's total oil consumption in the transportation sector in 2019 was approximately 900,000 barrels per day, which is equivalent to about 142.83 million liters per day. Total electricity needed = 792.38 million kWh/day / 1,000 = 792.38 MW"
1,331 million square meters (or 1,331 km^2) of solar panels would be needed to generate 792.38 million kWh of electricity per day in France, assuming an average solar panel efficiency of 17% and an average solar generation of 3.5 kWh/m^2/day.
In summary, the total cost of installing 1.3 million square meters of solar panels would be approximately $97.5 million for the solar panels themselves, and $195 million for installation costs, for a total estimated cost of $292.5 million.'
Dividing the $300 million by the 28 million households in France comes out to about $11 per household by GPT's figures to convert France's transportation power requirements to solar electric. GPT also estimates that there are about 2.75 billion square meters of built-up roof area in France and about 1.3 million square meters of roof area required to produce that.
According to data from the French Ministry of the Ecological Transition, as of 2019, the total built-up area in France (which includes residential, commercial, and industrial buildings) was approximately 5.5 billion square meters. Assuming that rooftops cover roughly 50% of the built-up area, we can estimate the total roof area in France to be around 2.75 billion square meters, and roughly only 5% of that roof would be needed to provide France's transportation needs.
Assuming those figures are accurate, It seems stunningly compelling to convert to EV, but one also has to consider that it takes the average Electric car about 3 to 5 year to offset the carbon required to produce the 1/3 ton of batteries they require, plus the environmental impact required to produce the lithium and cobalt and dispose of it. And again, that's where Mr. Boo's Scooter's 15kg battery and Elton's 27 kg battery vs Tesla Model 3's 300kg of battery pay off in a big way in terms of environmental impact.
The pay off on battery weight is very interesting Jack. Thanks
@@MeandMonAmi Indeed, stylish, fun and very affordable light, small electric vehicles are attractive to many and payoff in many ways that are now considered "essential" and to owners.
Wow, very interesting information! Would you happen to know how long the lease-period will be?
3 year I think with option to buy or renew (I think)
The Tesla Model 3's are made in The GiGaFactory in Berlin... in Germany ! SO, it should count as a European EV, NO XDXDXDXD
I think this is why early press suggested it might make the list. I wonder..
The rules seem to suggest that to avail yourself of state aid the car needs to be used in connection with employment in a job. I am retired can i still get help?
I think you do have to need it for work and work a distance away though I wonder if they may relax the rules the further into the scheme they get
Merci x
Well, I think this is an excellent measure and should be expanded to several european countries, at least in terms of a measure implemented by all EU countries. Without a doubt, it will encourage the use of more electric vehicles and make it easier for people with lower economic means to make this transition. However, the problem still arises with charging infrastructure, especially for those living in apartments without a house where they can charge their cars.
Happy New Year with lots of health and happiness Tim and Mr. Boo!!!!
for Tesla you need an drivers License
I cannot for the life of me imagine Wishi Washi Rishi (sounds like a Panto character doesn't he? Oh no he doesn't...) the Petro PM, promoting EVs in any shape or form, as we in the UK are being dragged Willy Nilly (got my alliteration mojo going) back into the 20th Century by the bully boys (Woohoo) of the bloated oilburning Oligarchy... (phew on a roll there!)
Good to see you have recovered from your unwanted Xmas present ( sick ) . Sounds like a great scheme and you just keep renewing every 2 or 3 years ,but read all the small print….. stay well and charged !
I'm still determining how the Fiat 500e or the Tesla Y qualify for being made in France. I imagine Tesla may push a deal to get SUPER cheap (tax-payer-funded) land to manufacture batteries.
The proviso is Made in EU, not Made in France, so the Fiat and Tesla Y (not 3) can qualify depending on price in the case of the latter.
@@davidperrott5743 Cool, that makes sense.
Thanks for that. 👍
❤❤ you’ve been driving for quite a while now would you think that you’re ready to pass a real road test?
Yes but no driving school ever answers my emails here! I don’t think they want me!
Lol
@@MeandMonAmi It's fine for folk to say "pass your test" BUT if france is in the same state of crap-titude as the uk booking system, overflowing like a fountain since & during covid, then instructors, EV instructors especially, theory test bookings & practical test bookings are like hens teeth, I tried to utilise a test centre 500 miles away for my daughter as things were so bad in the south, it was / just as bad, a year later no improvement, just more "backlog" clogging the system ..so likely tims reason is not to dissimilar to that, plus the ami likely fits far better in the street to minimise obstruction to other road users of what is & should be a moving highway not another parked car to navigate round (in essence)
France runs on nuclear and other renewable resources. France has to buy less oil. I was happy to watch this …..
Well done France. Nothing similar in UK. or planned in future. In UK we have been told EV don't work and catch fire. Also domestic heating in UK using heat pumps. We told they don't work by press. Therfore 55, 000 installed in UK last year compared with 620,000 in France... The French forward thinking country.
heat pumps work in Norway though, strange, isn’t it?
I live in the UK and had a heat pump installed in March 2023, together with all new radiators, cavity wall insulation and new loft insulation. Not really impressed with it all, and at times it has a mind of its own and decides not to work. It has been looked at several times, and deemed to be working ok. It is no cheaper to run than the central heating that ran using my old gas combi boiler. On the really cold freezing days that we had prior to Christmas, it was costing me a minimum of £10 per day for all electricity that I use in my 4 room bungalow.....I live alone, so expensive to run then! My loft now looks like an engine room! Personally, I don't recommend heat pumps, though I imagine that heat pump technology and the huge size will improve in the future.
@@cosmodoc Yes, because Norway has better, well insulated housing stock. Britain has knackered, leaky old crap, and new ‘built quickly on the cheap’ crap.
If the UK government cared they would have upgraded building regs years ago. But this is what happens when you have a building industry dominated by half a dozen huge firms who are better at lobbying than construction…
@@cerdicw9998 probably some truth in in, although there worse countries than the UK in Europe in terms of insulation
Only the Daily fail type retards say that with a good dollop of butter in their mouths & blinkers covering their eyes to avoid the massive flammability issue of diesel & petroleum but car fires are too commonplace to be news especially for lazy reporters regurgitating "news" from other outlets
Actual an effort to get those old Peugeot 205 diesel cars off the road! Other tax reduction effort has mostly only help those who can afford an EV in the first place getting a more premium EV instead!
the video looks like KI-generated
lease is not owning...
Believe me they're going to have to give the things away soon enough.
Hybrids are not real ev s
Semi evs?
@@MeandMonAmi Hybrids = about as much use as a flaccid member at a naked wife swapping party with a surplus of up for it widowers, too much weight, too much "gubbins" needed, spares to buy, still needs mot with emissions testing et al that aren't needed for BEV, we all hear about the amount of moving parts needed for an ICE compared to BEV, but no-one adresses the lipstick pig that is hybrid running two lots of tech & drivetrains... how many additional components does that necessitate do you think?
Probably already stated, but a smart more or less without breaking EU rules on competition circular movement, for anyone who hasn't been to france the cars are like going to a renault & citroen car rally combined, with a smidgen of other car brands (often hire cars when i'm anally counting them for EV's at a valley roundabout in chamonix Oon my way to get a beer from a canadian micro brewery) ..that one connects with the nearby descent from Switzerland, so unless you stopped the cars to ask point of origin, assumptions have to be made, but also there is a lot of govt investment in French brands (unlike the big sell offs in the uk) ..so getting back to basics the lease is cheap, the tax is mainly to france, as are other benefits including clean air.
Not having an AMi (though we do still have a 24kWhr old school leaf) we are aware of the screamers (for effect) where the cry of not enough chargers are concerned (we live in the charger neglected countryside of the uk & managed just fine) we have been jealous of the efforts to put in chargers in france, the network is frankly incredible overall, with chargers making it to remote hamlets / villages & small towns depicted by Tim & Mr Boo's travels, ...whilst "perfect" is individual perception the set up & chance of grabbing a more remote charger in france 5 years ago was way better than the uk where we had to hop from Nissan to BMW dealers more often than not (but thank god for Milton Keynes EV foresight) 10 years ago a raft of uk tax money went to mainly tory mates to hoover up cash on a 3 year jolly to install badly positioned trickle chargers & then not maintain them, so within 18 months they were pretty much dead, these were handed over a little while ago to BP / chargemaster ...when you asked councils they didn't answer you or ping ponged you from town council to district council & back again... it was a con.
France's more remote chargers are a boon to travel & trade, (they saw that from the outset) & whilst this lease set up is going to cost a lot of money, more infrastructure problems france is pretty bull headed as to the drive forward, Tim, I hope you can do apiece on the a bit flakey (till it happens) car park solar legislation that is also needed to bang out EV ownership acceptance & green power to the grid when it happens, ..as tim also mentioned "connexion" french news for english speakers is a great resource to have, even if you don't pay for subscriptions the headlines give you a heads up to research it elsewhere.
Overall though its not that different to the scottish scheme from 2021 !? helping out with EV purchases (not just limited to cars, but including Ebikes, Emopeds, E-Motorcycles, aimed at an amount accessible to get a family / numerous members of a family the ability to buy & travel, so a family might buy a small EV & a college age teen an E-motorbike / e-moped for example where otherwise it was reliant upon sketchy countryside buses & long hours, Macron has gone beyond that, I cannot see it is overly sustainable at the starting point but it is obviously going to pump a lot more BEV's into the second hand market, alleviating some of the financial strain.
It's beyond me why anyone would even want a Tesla given their history of terrible quality and worse customer service (which is a problem that stems right from the very top of the company). Sitting here in the United States of America I look at that list of qualifying cars and wish we had that many reasonably priced electric car models to choose from here. Instead we have an overabundance of Tesla and other very high-priced electric models, most of which come with significant waiting periods to even acquire once purchased, leaving too many of us no real electric vehicle options. When I purchased my last vehicle in December of 2021 the only model (regardless of manufacturer) that was available to be shipped before July 2022 was the Tesla Model S Plaid so I bought a gasoline powered vehicle instead.
I hear you! Though waiting times here aren’t much difference. Ami’s were taking a year..
Hope they never put it on that list❤who in a right mind would wanted to have one,at any price...
No waiting now (2023-24) for Tesla. Other EVs readily available on dealer lots. But I agree that customer service is a big (self-imposed) problem for Tesla compared to legacy companies. I have a Model Y and a Honda. I can get an appointment at the Honda dealer tomorrow, if I need servicing, compared to 10 days out for Tesla.
"we have an overabundance of Tesla". That would be because people are buying everything they make, then? I only have one, so there are plenty left for you when you come round.
you wouldn’t get a Tesla for €100 a month? You are kidding!
Good on Macron!
Who needs an EV?. Give me an old gas guzzler anytime.
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