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SSD Solid State Drive Buyer's Guide - Covering Current SSD Technologies NCIX Tech Tips
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- In this episode of NCIX Tech Tips, Linus gives some tips on how to purchase a new SSD for your system.
These are amazing videos, so much more interesting. Really helpful to people considering speccing up new builds, and guys just getting into tech
I was looking for something like this. Thanks LINUS!
Sound is perfect for me,great video.
thanks for the guide been outta the loop for about 2 years
Finally!!!! another vid on the NCIX channel!
My personal threshold is Kingston HyperX 3k 240GB witch i bought today...Thanks to Linus for great info about SSD's.
i just bought a vertex 2 less than a week ago after looking at your older ssd vs hdd videos and all i can say is, the preformance increase is so amazing! editing is faster, launching programs is faster and, my favourite, boot/shut town times are so so much faster... i dont even bother hibernating my computer anymore- i however get fustrated with my laptop now though
Linus, i love your videos, and thanks for uploading this on the 23rd. Which happens to be my birthday :D
Corsair Force3 60gb. Pretty happy with it, but i did have to find a fix to get rid off my 30 sec freezes, happened weekly. A registry change and putting it to hot swap in the bios, now it runs perfect.
Finally a new video!
Linus, is there anything to consider in the capacity/performance relationship of the SSDs.
I'm big into FSX, have alot of bulky scenery data where fast read access is really attractive.
Is there anything I need to consider between say a 240GB SSD Vs a 120 GB SSD.
System is a Xeon, 16GB Mem running Win7.
thanks for posting this
Great vid hope to get a SSD soon they are fast!
hey Linus, I think you should make more vids about SSD's , Pci-e ones in particular (there was a brief mention of them in this video) like the revodrive x2 or the x3 coming soon. Thanks , great video! as always.
As always, thanks for the videos. You are totally awesome and personally deliver the best youtube videos I've seen hands down related to hardware unboxing, reviews and just plain knowledge.
I have learned alot, so keep it up!!
For me It's about the money as I guess is most peoples "problem".
As for now I am running windows, games and music/video projects of my Velicoraptor 300gb.
The SSD has got to be more then a 150 gb and will replace my velicoraptor.
Personally I like it all high, will see
I already did! Got an Vertex 2 60Gb, and I love it! I used SSD Tweaker to turn off stuff that slows down an SSD etc and turning off your pagefile etc helps allot aswell. In stalled some applications.. updated windows 7 fully and still 35 GB left.. so two or three games still fit aswell! rest of my games are put on the HDD and i put them back to the SSD when I Start to play them more often.
Hey Linus question, I wanted to know I've currently got a Revodrive X2 240gb but wanted to know if I switched to a vertex 3 240gb ssd would I see better reliability/ speed or would you raid 0 2 vertex 3 120gb ssd's on a onbaord controller found on the gigabyte G1 Assassin?
i got a x58 setup. which would be recommended? heard new vertex 3 isnt as good as it could be with x58
I just bought a 120GB Mushkin Callisto, which is basically the same as the Vertex 2, and I just can't get over how awesome an upgrade SSD is
@tooozzo So does it matter whether i use a Sata 3 cable or Sata 2 cable?
Question : If I set the onboard controller to RAID in the BIOS and create a RAID1array with 2 HDD, and the SSD in on the same controller but not part of a RAID array. Will the SSD still support TRIM ?
I just bought an Intel 520, still waiting for it to get here but can't wait to try it out.
I bought an OCZ Vertex 2 60GB a couple months ago. I'm using it strictly as a boot drive. A friend helped me move the Windows temp files and as many files off the SSD onto my 1 TB storage drive to prolong the life of the SSD. The SSD performs great. I don't do a whole lot of gaming but the games I do have is on the storage drive.
so i have the 120gb ocz vertex2 first it was like 14 sec boot now 24 or even 27 so if you put more data it get slower ? or am i doing something wrong
Im having some problems with the ocz upgrade kit. I have placed my new agility 3 120 ssd in the usb housing. When i connect via USB the LED lights up blue but my computor isnt detecting anything. I was expecting it to show as flash storage like everything else. When I try the cloning process the drive still isnt detected. I have a spair sata 2 port, would it be worth connecting and cloning through SATA? Also my OS partition is 250 gig and I'm not sure what to do about it. Please help. Thanks
your vids are awsome, keep it up, could you please talk about RAM and explain latency stuff and do a best performance / best buy test? thanks!
bought a crucial c300 128gb on thursday :) great drive!
Already have an SSD, an older one that is no longer available on NCIX, but it does the job just fine as a dedicated boot/OS drive. I will get a new one when I upgrade my computer in like two years.
Been using the thing for a while now and loving it. It seems really fast to me but I came to it from a 6400rpm HDD.
what do u recomend for gaming for a SSD drive? the capicity i am looking for 300 gigs +
will it change anything if you pre-compress your data? such as zipping or creating a .rar file?
my first ssd is a samsung 830 series 60gb just because 3 stores i have been in said that ppl dont bring them back its dead or something with it wrong and so beeing more stable anything true on it?
Ive got Corsair SSD Force Series 120GB, its amazing!
im getting a 120gb force gt ssd can i get windows 7 like 2-3 games and it will fit with some space left?
@NCIXcom On the basis of Vertex 2 history how long we should wait for 60 or 80 GB models of OCZ Vertex 3? Thanks in advance!
Maybe s.o. can answer a little question:
I already have a Vertex2 60GB on my MSI P45 Platinum (ICH10).
Would you recommend to buy a 2nd Vertex2 60GB and put them in RAID-0? Will i get another performance-boost? I now there is no TRIM for RAID, but i've heared the Vertex2 and 3 doesnt even have "real TRIM", but something special of the Sandforce-Controller, so does this matter?
would be great if someone can answer me =)
Other system-specs on my channel-profile.
greeetz!
I have a SATA-6Gb/s ready P55 motherboard and I'm thinking of buying a Sandforce- 2281 controlled drive but I have heard that the Marvel SATA-3 controller on my motherboard has problems with the new Sandforcecontrollers. Is this True?
I have a 60gb OCZ Vertex 2 SSD and i love it, the only down side is that it was very expensive.
Is Sata 3 6GB/S backwards compatible to Sata 2 3GB/S? I'm waiting the latest Sata 3 SSD but my motherboard only supports Sata 2 :(
@FubuMushu yes' it is, the connection and the cables are the same. the only thing that changes is the maximum transfer rate
Using a two year old PC. Will be buying a 120gig SSD next year in my new build.
Hey linus, i was under the impression that at this point, TRIM is supported in RAID 0 on intel chipsets, i believe since mid-late 2010. Am I wrong about that? Thanks
Im just finding out about SSD's so if you get a pc that has both SSD and HDD on it and Im a gamer, do I install the games AND the OS on the SSD or just the OS or what? If its both then I sppose youre gona need a fair bit of SSD space wich = cash 8(
Please do an updated guide. There are so many new options and performance values.
Awesome video. I'm thinking about the Vertex 3 even though I don't really need it, mainly for futureproofing, but I have to say the price is putting me off a bit!
What do you guys think of those PCI small capacity ssd's? I would only use it as a boot drive to speed up my system
I've been rocking a Vertex 2 (120gb) for the past 4 months and it's awesome. Built it into my aging (4 years old) Thinkpad Z61m and the machine is like new. Performance is awesome (even with SATA I). I don't think I'm ever going to buy a hdd for my boot/system drive again.
Grabbed a Kingston 240GB HyperX 3K from Newegg for $160 and it comes with the transfer accessories. Pretty sweet deal for such a sick SSD.
I have been using an OCZ Vertex (original) for about 2 years now. It acts as my Windows boot drive. Very fast. I plan on upgrading to a larger drive later this year.
@XavGod whether you put media files on a separate regular spinning disk storage drive or not. The ssd DOES THE READING hence you still get the loading speed of the file or program that's storage on the hdd. I TESTED this on 3 different custom build pc's i built myself 4 week ago with my mushkin callisto deluxe ssd and the 1 tb wd caviar black hdd. starcraft II, dvd fab, itunes, yahoo messenger ALL loaded the same as when i put all those things stricktly on the ssd. W.o.w included. cheers
I just bought the vertex 2 120Gb. I am a littlebit confused about the storage capacity. It's suppose to be 120gb drive but before i even installed Windows 7 64 bit it only showed capacity of 107Gb and it still does? How is this possible?
I have the Vertex 2 (32 nm, not the broken 25nm) and its wonderful. I have my OS and all my apps on it, and thats it. Boots in only about 10-13 seconds and I can instantly get into all my programs, no wait what so ever.
I have the rest of my data on two WD 500 black drives. Steam for one drive (36 installed at the moment) and my other for Music/Movies which is halfway full.
Then I have a 250 Seagate for download/back up, and another 500 USB drive for transfer.
Can never have to much storage
It would be nice to include links in the description bar for videos you reference :)
Just bought a RevoDrive 120GB for my new sandy bridge build. The performance is absolutely incredible. It took my load times from multiple steamboats (sometimes tens of steamboats) down to almost nothing. Every program on my computer is snappy, even things like windows media center open instantly with no lag whatsoever. Highly recommend the RevoDrive, and the X2 will give you even better performance. $300 well spent!
Already have a SSD! And it's awesome =>
This was shot on the 14th of April. Go 720p and look at the date on the tv
@alt572 did you have it backuped somewhere..win 7 have it integrated quite well..also you should have warranty for it..so..
I bought a vertex II 60gb drive a half a year ago (120$) at the time. Its been performing wonderfully, but have found like Linus said an issue with space. I knew ahead of time I would put basic apps on the ssd which I use more often. You also must take into consideration is the space for updates to your OS.
I plan to buy another Vertex 2 and raid0 the drive and buy another HDD to raid it with my other 1tb.
Linus question- Could you give examples of compressible/non-compressible data?
I'd go for either the revodrive or a 4 drive RAID 5 array on a dedicated controller. I honestly wish I could afford both, but I planned out my next system build and decided to go with the RAID array simply because of the increased capacity it offers.
I just recently bought a gaming system for ~$1200. I spent extra money on the peripherals (which was a good decision, by the way) so I had no room in the budget for an SSD. I think I'll upgrade around Christmas next year and see if the prices drop at all. Of course, that's assuming we don't all die ;)
What happens with full disk encryption on these? BitLocker or Truecrypt?
I've got a cruzial m4 256gb for my macbook pro. The performance is fantastic! I think cruzial gives the best performance when comparing prices as well.
right now I'm running a vertex 2 60gb boot drive, but I'm tempted to upgrade to a 120gb vertex 3. think I'll wait a few months for that first price drop.
Revo is the bomb I've had mine for over a yr and love it
@crypticspoon93 wow, really? would you still use the cd/dvd boot in bios and set that first ?
Would an intel 330 series ssd be a good choice for a decent gaming computer?
since 06 ive used 2 hard drives, one for storage music video pictures and so forth, would it be ok to upgrade to a SSD, and just use it the same as my OS drive, honestly that whole compression thing confused the holy hell out of me.
for a motherboard i would recommend the gigabyte 990fx ud7 it supports 4 way crossfire/sli.I also plan on building an amd fx 8150 based pc!
Hi I'm thinking of getting either 4 120GB Vertex 3 MAX IOPS drives or 2 240GB MAX IOPS drives. I'll be using raid for both options just with on board drivers on an asus maximus iv extreme-z
I have a Vertex 2 50GB with 34nm IMF NAND, but I am going to get a Corsair Force 120GB this summer. OCZ has gone with lower quality 25nm NAND in the newer Vertex 2s and the Vertex 3 doesn't seem necessary to me. Last gen SandForce is plenty fast for my usage.
So is the only advantage of an SSD over an HDD greater write/loading speeds? I'm paying crazy high prices just so I won't have to wait as long on a loading screen? Is there any advantage in in-game performance?
i recently upgraded to vertex 2 60 gigs for using it as boot drive and had to rma it within a month coz the bios of my asus c4f just couldnt detect the drive , i donno wht the prob, should i update my bios or ssd's firmware. i hope they return an ssd with new firmware :(
Linus, how is the X25-M Gen.2 holding up yet?
SSD would be best used as a boot drive?
@Verliebt ...the HDDs in raid may come close to the read/write performance but they are nowhere near the access time of an SSD. The access times will go up in raid 0. I use an 80gb SSD for my system and two 640gb HDDs in raid 0 for data and games -> "low" cost and high performance
In the future Linis could you give recommendations for certain users.
Work Users (Doing Documents/Spreadsheets)
Media Users(Video Editing/PhotoShopping)
Gamers (FPS/MMO/RPG gamers playing latest games).
It would be really helpful for me to understand which product when you review them would be best suited for what I want to use the computer for.
Linus, maybe a video on the differences on compressible vs incompressible data and what types of data fit in each category, or users can tell?
I would get Vertex II because it has good performance with a reasonable price.
Hey Linus, can you please do an episode on how to configure an SSD when using a HDD for storage. I have heard alot about creating Mirrored folders on the SSD which ae linked to storage drives and this way you do't lose any speed from installing a game or app on the HDD.
If my PC supports SATA-II and I buy a SATA-III, will that work at all or is my PC just "pretending" it to be SATA-II? And also, does brand make a diffrence? more than quality?
i have a crucial M4. I get ridiculously fast/boot and load times and i got it for £90. very good deal
I am hoping to get a 120GB Vertex 3 this summer for my build
@FubuMushu Yes, Just like Usb 3/2/1. Both Technologys were desgned for maximum flexibility.
I'm not gonna buy an SSD 'til I definately know which advantages I get, when I'd buy for example a Vertex 3 over a Vertex 2. Of course better reads and writes, but I'm only focused at real-world scenarios, such as boot up times, multitasking or application launch times. There's got to be a sweet spot, where it doesn't make sense to get even faster storage drives.
I'd be really glad to see a real-world comparison video between "slower" and "faster" SSDs!
Vertex 3 and Samsung F3 in rain0 is perfect combo
When am I going to upgrade to SSD? June! b/c that's when I will have the cash to buy the rest of my parts. :) Which SSD would I buy? I was going to get the 510 series but since the vertex 3 is out now and is faster than that, and unless intel has dropped the price now, it's also cheaper, I'm most likely going to get the Vertex 3, unless some bad reviews pop up on it between now and June.
@tjpld 830 Points? That' awesome. What motherboard did you used?
@SSGLeader just check a youtube video. search "unlock 6950" and you should see results. Just curious to see whether it still can be done or not. Is the PCB on your graphics card red or black or another colour?
@weih723
kinda a lot cause they still have that "traditional drive." they are saying that the technology isnt there to have a SSD to replace that "traditional drive." basically just wait for better "stuff."
Whats the point of SATA 3? because my ssd benchmarked at 550 gb for transfer
already bought an ssd and i have the revo drive. one month after i bought it i saw that the vertex 3 came out. The revo drive from what ive seen will still out perform the vertex 3 drive but the down side to having a revo drive is that it takes up a pci-e slot. something prospective buyers should be aware of. its not just price and performance its do you want a Sata drive or a pci-e slot drive? all in all if i had to rebuy again i would still buy a revodrive.
What type of data can't be compressed?
yeah the samsung pro's are badass I can't wait until the EVO Pro versions get released.
I'd love to have an SSD, but the price seems a little too unreasonable right now and I'd feel bad about buying one haha. I can definitely see myself having SSD within a year providing the technology and price improves.
Probably, they were still a bit more expensive back then though. But still, for my needs it's good enough and have not found the need to upgrade yet. I have a 500GB 7200rpm for games and 3tb green for media, the sdd was always meant as boot.
More technology.... I had to smile there :)
@mikezard123 Well, the fastest 2.5 inch SSD, I'm not talking about the PCIe ones or other types of drives like the REVO.
@IvorStiffan thanks for the info i've checked that out at newegg dot com is 90 dollars american which is very good price considering the power specs on the sub and each speaker. I have an old logitech 4400 4.1 400 watt total ( 50 watts per speaker) analog surround sound system. two of the speakers died so i changed the settings to 2.1 surround sound. the sub is 190 watt. It's still kickin ass so far and I bought it back in 2003. Corsair 2500 sp MAY end up being my backup/replacemnt. thx :D
im on a tight budget...I found a crucial m4 128GB SSD on sale for $120, or a 64GB OCZ Vertex 4 64GB for 75 bucks. I need one soon....money is VERY tight...Im using it only as my win7 boot drive and a few web browsers and benchmarking software (MAYBE a game). I will be using my 1TB Internal that I have now that win7 is currupted on for my games. What should I get :P
congrats on the wedding man!!!