Jordan Peterson ~ What Interests You Is Involuntary
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- Jordan Peterson ~ What Interests You Is Involuntary
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I Love his hand gestures! Whenever he is trying to find the right thing to say, he looks like he's either juggling invisible objects or shaping invisible clay.
I think exciting the body excites the mind (not to be read sexually).
Frantazo I once saw a book on amazon entitled “how to speak Italian,” or something like that. The theme of the reviews was that most of Italian language is in fact hand gestures.
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@@frantazo5710 ☺🤸♀️
It's like writing something down helps you remember. More general, using multiple stimuli makes the memory being stored on a larger scale. The hand gestures seems to help retrieving the relevant memory.
"What's your friend: the things you know or the things you don't know?" Such a helpful way of looking at it
That bit got my attention as well. ”The things you don’t know give birth to the things you know”. Will definitely be reciting that in opportune moments.
Yang gang
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This guy provides some very high level insight into the human mind. Might take years to digest what he has to say. Takes a certain maturity to grasp what he has to say.
Jordan Peterson is a good teacher. I have been a teacher for 40 years: I know what it takes. I was considered to be a weird but good guy. I have saved some lives. Some of my pupils had have enough of secondary school: I told them they were intelligent and school wasn't. They trusted me. I loved them.
Also headmasters, inspectors etc. could fuck off: I thought my pupils's future was more important than mine.
@@walterceuppens6988 you sir, are not a good guy, you are one of the bests
Walter Ceuppens ; you seem to be the kind of man quality women dream of. I salute you, sir !
Can you give an example of Peterson being insightful?
@@walterceuppens6988 its great to know people like you are out there. It took me up to the age of 50 to find that meaning trumps happiness. I have found meaning. I am not great at anything, though talented at a few things but now I have meaning finally I am beginning to "clean my room". I have a tight fire in my belly going to work. Though a minimum wage job in a call centre I want to be the best and deliver the best service for the person the other end of the line. If I had teachers like you , who knows where I would be now.
I involuntarily got interested in this video. Now let's see what it says.
^ how so??? You didn't click???
Test results came in and says you're a pseudo intellectual
@@Menaceblue3 Looks like we've got more results - they also say you might be really insecure and hide behind a mask of 'intellectualism' to cover for it...
It's "hidden meaning" is that you're a tool. Glad I could clear that up for you. Now you may KS, FB. Good luck!
Mohammed C hahahahaha
I NEED Jordan Peterson as my therapist!!! He's amazing!!
Agreed!
Yes! I'd say it's worth watching his lecture all the way through. Bother personality and maps of meaning. Did a lot of good for me!
I love how he says that what interests us is involuntary. I think he also connects this in another lecture that what interests you is an initial step yo becoming your truest self. Hone in on what draws you, discipline yourself to learn and master those skills and concepts and understand that following that gut feeling towards your dreams may indirectly lead you to understanding yourself and contributing yourself in the best way possible so you are the most useful to society at large. If our perspective changes from " I wanna follow my passion bc I'll be happier" to " I need to follow what moves me bc I have a higher chance to commitment, dedication hence success and furthermore am responsible to become my truest self in order to actualize far more potential into reality instead of being stuck in some complacent stage of life" and things change. We begin to work harder on ourselves when we realize our success can benefit more deeply for others than if we hold ourselves back.
And mind I know that many people fail to succeed at initial dreams or realize they are unrealistic or dont have the talent/intelligence or skills, I understand that trust me, I dont feed grandiose delusions. But we dont know what we are capable of and what we are meant to do I'd we dont get our hands dirty and get to work. The initial plan doesn't work out? No duh who expects to have their life figured out the first time we try something, that's crazy! What's vital is to observe, learn, listen and track; assess yourself often and if something isn't working head back to the whiteboard and try a new strategy. Need guidance, find a mentor for that part of life ( can't find one in person then search for them online and via books like Jorsan Pererson etc) and become better at listening to that gut. I only say this long comment bc I am trying to work on this myself. Though I haven't seen the big breakthroughs yet my mind space and daily habits have changed to the point that my friends have noticed. If I keep going I know it I will only become wiser. So push forward and look into those interests, they might mean something.
Hey, great job. I'm hoping you do better for yourself and others. And you're so kind too. 😊
Really nice
@@jenaprithviraj0433 thank you, I've been following my own advice for once and I feel happier going back to school and organizing my time. Now I'm just waiting on the first battery of exam grades to see if they helped!
@@zk9494 hey, it's so much pleasure hearing that from you. It is really praise worthy that you are trying to make it better. I had followed these advices myself too and they have proven so very positive. Trust me, the results matter much less to me now. The positivity and confidence it brings to us is all that matters. I pray you remain hopeful and help the ones around you. And who did ever need a grade to live a happy life. (well it's important but our soul is the most precious). Cheers, dear. 😊
@@jenaprithviraj0433 in regards to the grades very true, they only exist so I can continue in the program. rather than worry about passing I have been transitioning to go full force and show that I can fulfill promises to myself and do better bc I willed myself to. The grades are just trackable evidence. Hearing lectures like these when I struggle to start my days before 7 am really help. Every week feels like a month but I have a feeling it's a sign that I'm on the right track. Thanks for the response 👍
"Good luck trying to get the subconscious to co-operate!" 😂😂
I think that's what the goal of self-actualization is...to your point, if it were easy everyone would have already done it.
@@mhill88ify I just thought the way he said it was funny. 🙂 It is true that avoidance behaviors come very easily to us humans.
It is possible to shape the subconscious, or the great within as Christian D. Larson calls it. If you make the great within your chief cause of concern, and in shaping its development, you can through conditioning develop new interests or deepen existing interests, of which greatly enhances a person's ability to concentrate... Which is the ultimate goal, developing the power of concentration through cultivating and developing interests.
One mode of thinking is that you need to develop a deep understanding of the law of cause and effect and really strive to understand that how you feel today is the result of what you did yesterday. The present moment is built under the conditions that created it... What you ate, the thoughts you were thinking, how you breathe, your posture, and many more factors contributed to your present condition. And to slowly build the mental connections to directly relate what you did before to how you feel now. This is how you start to build a future oriented mindset.
Thomas Troward once said, the law of cause and effect is one we can never really get away from and he is correct. Also, there is an old maxim, that order is heaven's first law, which holds profound significance. Set your house in perfect order, before you criticize the world. As a grand strategic metaphor for self improvement of any mode or kind, law 6 in Peterson's book functions as something far bigger than it immediately appears.
Lastly, there were many self improvement books around 1890-1920 that are way ahead of their time in terms of deep understanding.
@@ninjacats1647 I will admit to being currently ignorant of Dr. P's 12 laws other than their existence. I would agree with the idea of Order playing a large role in finite outcomes, whether those results are individually internal or externally seen. :)
Edit: ('Theirs' trip me up)
I have since read Dr. P's rules and I'm glad I did. :)
Hey guys great sub thread here...
I want to add three things
1- affirmations
2- self hypnosis
3- inspirational art forms
These are the way to get the subconscious to work with and for you as your new friend.
The price of entrance is (roughly speaking):
A- doing exercises with the same relative consistency of any other task that requires repetition for effectiveness... please 🤔 💭 a pleasant thought such as: gardening, a sport / hobby, art work, a valued skill you got... I my self have Kung fu n gardening.
Here’s the gig... if I water my cherished plants not enough the may die OR they will being living n dying on and off so much due to neglectful water they never produce fruit, flowers or grow bushy n full of gorgeousness... they need water n foods n sunlight but at different times... n amounts. ITS A CUTE LITTLE CYCLE OF ACTIVITY 🔥 ...
So A is activity here.
B- is learning about your tools of affirmations, self hypnosis and finding figures to dwell on like JBP says the cross or Archetypal hero or other art works.
C- there will be worthy suffering that is paid and great fruit pulled from this effort. Each affirmation session can be uncomfortable n trigger you to cleanse old ideas, emotions or trigger old thoughts / memories.
Feeling amazing n elated during a session can trigger the opposite feeling almost immediately sometimes especially if your a abuse survivor n or have repressed old wound events...
If you affirm you are wealthy n have xyz house or lifestyle... what happened is often self doubt n fear upon many things... this is what is in the “inner” way blocking your “outer” success lifestyle.
You must do a Bifocal Journey. Build your subconscious n then build your physical action world.
That’s the dance, form, kata... blue print n building... the teaching n the action.
A session when you wake up n a session when you go to slumber...
Some more special session on the weekend mid day for a deepening.
Benefits are:
1- stopping self sabotage
2- stopping Procrastination
3- stopping self-hate
4- Stop in self trickery/game playing
5- stop in the wasting of time
6- stopping you’re complaining
7- Stopping powerlessness
8- gamgainingat you want or need
9- Knowing and trusting yourself n life like never before
The last two benefits require the first seven in order to best bloom n fullest and this process is all inclusive.
Again your three firms are affirmations, self hypnosis, dwelling on art /stories/ beings that inspire you to be more like them...
If I add a last piece it is to say to ask a Devine presence to help, heal or make real these requests n that you wish it to be so and will be extremely grateful for all angelic or other wise spiritual luck n support.
If your atheists it does not matter. Call it coming into alignment with the spirit of the hill you are hiking.
Be friends with what you don’t know. At minimum we release hubris when we open to our spiritual side by admitting that even with the wieldable tools we don’t know it all n surrender to greater guidance n vision in mysterious ways.
If your a science fiend go study more on research papers about this being open idea n prayer /energy sending studies ect, recovery of rats from surgery ect, and be exhaustive in your research... do your due diligence... it’s your responsibility as the one who “””needs””” things proven... go seek n stop fussing here 😉💜.
My last note 📝 before I write books upon this subject is that it is a training to do this.
You will sweat 😓. But you need to be optimistic when you do so. It’s feelings n inner structures you are transforming.
Your a road crew destroying and building a new road to a new land... as you travel by road workers... in the sun or rain... on freeway or side street... exercising upon and with your subconscious is no different you are training you are working you are sweating and you will be rewarded call it a paycheck call it a bonus it’s guaranteed you’re gonna be paid when you put in the correct work.
Take it on as a hobby but do it meaningfully! Great luck and diligence to you!!!
“It’s part of being half spirit and half mater” my head just exploded
Hound19745 - lol
Alan Watts and Terence McKenna always talked about being half angel, half creature/machine, and that our conscious mind has to mediate between natures. It's comforting to know that the psychological literature of modernity manifests this image of the individual as the mediator of myriad motivational sub-personalities, archetypes.
@@marcus8710 subdued by their appetites rather than upheld by their beliefs ; ) the whole of "human history" so yes thank god for those people
Those of us who grew up in Liverpool are half man half biscuit.
We create beauty and show nature a mirror of herself in art and music. We can understand and express love. There's voluntary evil as well. There's 'fallen angels', blamed on pride interestingly enough. The point is, we have potential - there's more light in you than you can possibly manifest. The shying away is what creates room for an equally powerful darkness.
It's good to recognize that a real friend is a person that tells you when you when you have a blindspot or inconsistency and where they have seen you affected by it...ie.,, when you are fucking up! A shitty friend might not have the guts to broach it with you, or even worse, see it and secretly enjoy watching you suffer. A real friend is not afraid to at least give a solid effort towards pointing out some flaw, and voice it because they want to see you improve.
Jordan Peterson is my shower thoughts
Truth.
Lmaooooo
He’s very lucid
@@jimmclimn6940 as long as he's not very fluid
The first 35 seconds is an absolute gem of wisdom and truth. We all know this deep down, and that shows with our fears and feelings in general.
does he mean that there are certain thought that we cant put into words? there are thoughts that i have sometimes that are not manifested in words
@@GetFunnied if you have these thoughts. Do you have them in the form of pictures or images? Has nothing to do with the question you asked but im just curious
@@luckyluke5614 no man, this thought dont manifest into nothing, its not pictures or words, i dont even know what that is, maybe is just a feeling of understanding
@@GetFunnied The last part is very true. It's more like a feeling of clarity or understanding it. Quite difficult to put it in words as the thought goes so fast.
Yep, totally agree. What's best is, it wasn't until I seen your comment that I went back and re-listened to it, then understood it. Im not sure what you'd call that substructure that our conscious rests on. Is it like "instinct"? Maybe similar to the way the hypothalamus works...beneath our control.
Anyway thank you for the comment, or I would have missed the point.
2:05 Never thought of the Hero myth in this way. Very, very powerful.Insanely insightful. Some of the most powerful insights regarding religion, spirituality and culture I have ever heard..Anywhere.
pikiwiki ya we will see what he has to say in the end of days... when it becomes apparent the bible is not just simple stories
I relate to what he's saying quite a lot. Especially the part about listening. It's one reason I don't actively engage in people in conversation. I've always felt people were just not really listening.
Aaron Klein ya i stoped engaging in conversations some time ago, if im not first asked my thoughts or opinion athentically by another person i dont speak
Your saying nobody ever listens to you? Ever?
Also it's a two way street. People probably aren't listening because your not listening
@Madeline Ingram there's actually lots of authentic amazing people in the world. You just need to rise the social competence hiarky to meet them. Good luck! Also get good at talking to new people. I walk past amazing people that I want to talk to, but don't have the time all the time!
@Madeline Ingram ah.. I'm tracking now. I completely agree.
Dr. Peterson speaking about what you know, and don't know I remembered a Socrotese quote "how do you know what you know, is what you know"?
Answer is by asking questions that are pointed to attaining knowledge.
This one's probably one of his most passionate lectures, from what I've seen
Not the wisdom I came here for exactly, but still had to watch it twice! Pederson speaks to the soul, man. The soul.
... Greg... J.P. is, basically, the man of the moment; a modern day prophet, who is gathering a wide and ready audience, all in need, and starving for guidance. His education, training, and view, shows him a world in crisis and peril, with a planet full of lost, future shocked, and traumatized people. And, just for being honestly forthright and affective, he is coming under fire and being attached, mostly, because of his affectivness...
@@pereraddison932 That’s exactly what I think, Perer. The man needs all the help we, his followers, can give him so that he can help us. All the best.
I could listen to him for years
@Jay P Ikr. I could literally listen to him reciting his grocery list or even sing the alphabet song & I'm pretty sure that he would still be able to somehow find a way to educate, inform, & enlighten me in a meaningful, useful, profound way simply by using either one of those two very obtuse, mundane things as his only tool/foundation in the process. His gift is boundless & a true force to be reckoned with.
Curiosity Is by far the best quality.. Nurture it!
Curiosity is absolutely worthless without honesty though. Never forget that.
@@khatack Honesty has nothing to do with curiosity. I am not talking about butting in people's business.
@@zabelicious Honesty has everything to do with curiosity and how you conduct yourself. If you're not honest, your curiosity will become a curse to you and everyone around you.
@@khatack Well in my world, it is implied. I only deal with truth and facts. Not twisting things with malevolent intent.
Interesting. I noticed after listening countless times through mixes from contemporary electronic music artists that I suddenly developed a passion for their source materials and original influences.
I've watched alot of JP video's but this one is definitely one of the most profound
w. tibbs clemens I agree. I like his older stuff. Pre beard
This is such an important video. Wow
To whomever is putting these lecture on UA-cam... THANKS ! They are profoundly helpful
I think we choose what interests to pursue and also our interests change. I am more inclined to like subjects that I'm good at more so than ones I need help with. With instance I was gifted in reading and writing so I pursued that but math bored me so I did the bare minimum to pass.
one aspect that seems to differentiate Jordan a lot is his philosophical trait that catapult you into a realm of symbols, dreams, introspection that spark your whole universe into an infinite movement and revelations. It s all I ever needed in my life. Can t believe this guy was probably living at 15 minutes from my home when I was student. He s one of the greatest reason I pray (for) now, never thought doing so in my life.
This is the kind of stuff he does that’s actually great.
Seems like this is a simple thing that your mind will instantly start 'behaving' like the person you think you have identified in order to interface with them. Whether your intent is to manipulate, help, or avoid them...you need to think like them.
I might have to listen to this everyday. He is a motivational speaker just by explaining how the world goes round - or the mind, for that matter
Jordan Peterson is a public treasure.
2:52 that's exactly what my 6, 7 y.o self did. And now I'm a big hollow person whose personality is very bad build and has no idea who he is
I can't figure out what to do, how to improve my life, myself, I can't solve problems, I can't establish goals for my life, I can't find hobbies or things to interest me, I have no idea how to keep conversations with people even
Life is just pain and suffering and even after watching tons of JP videos I feel totally lost
god I wish I could just die
You can solve ALL of those perceived problems at once! Volunteer! You could start out slowly by walking for a cause or donating blood (that would be HUGE)! You can help at a soup kitchen or beach clean up and meet people who will like you just for doing that! I hope in the past year, you’ve escaped the rut that we all find ourselves in. Prayers my friend.
@@ChatGPT1111 I've never thought about volunteering, I don't know many places.
Still I don't see how that could solve my problems.
I can't donate blood because of weed.
But anyways, I've been like this all of my life, I don't have hopes of escaping the rut my life is.
Don't waste your prayers with me.
Don’t talk like that. You sound a lot like my brother. He would go through these bouts of despair and depression but was a kind hearted soul who was misunderstood. He was killed in a motorcycle accident 3 days ago at the age of 53. The whole family has come together to mourn him and remember him. He was a difficult person to get along with sometimes with a bad temper but could also be sweet and gentle. Now going through his things, I feel closer than ever to that gentle, sweet side of him that I often overlooked. I wish I would have taken more time with him and helped him in his “lostness” in this world. My mom is devastated. Remember there are people who love you. I love you. Try to get out or do something artistic maybe. Don’t give up. Make a list of all the things you like and see if you can find a way to pursue that thing. See where it takes you. Sending you hugs. 🌸
Dont listen anyone... even so called god.... only listen to youself because nature's wisdom is rooted in every soul... we can get authentic answers by asking to ourselves..we have to just have patient wiyh ourselve... any other is just illusion... no one can help us in respect of wisdom...only we are the solution... you can listen no of personalities as you want but going nowhere... but if you listen ask yourself you will go very far... if you believe in yourself you will learn how to live... dont think that you are not expert of thinking just dive in yourself by writing or just sitting and giving attention to yourself your body your mind...you will find many treasures... if you do this in morning without eating anything it helps too much... just go into yourself...only you have solutions other is just illusion...
Which lecture is This? Love the channel btw, it's awesome to have these small snippets that are done so well! 🙌
I looked through his videos and was not able to find it. I would like to know as well. JP's lectures are terrific. Some of them I have listened to dozens of times.
2015 Personality Lecture 3.
@@guitaristdotcom Thank you!
@@guitaristdotcom Thanks man
I start listening to him talk and get bummed when the video clips are over 🤣
This is essential Jordan Peterson. Passionate, well-cited, long winded, and crazy insightful. He puts it all together better than almost anyone. Hate it and love it at the same time. Keep it up sir!
In much of your talking, thinking is half murdered. For thought is a bird of space, that in a cage of words may indeed unfold its wings but cannot fly. -Kahlil Gibran
Very true. What disinterests me is far more involuntary than whatever does interest me. And that is good. Otherwise every unethical authority person around out there would be able to convince me that I am always wrong about anything and everyting that I have ever percieved as true to the point of where I would start doubting everything I have ever learned up until now and everything about me including my gender, whatever emotional burdens I am for real carrying, what physical limitations I have, etc. etc. so that they can sell me more stuff at best that I do not need.
0:05 You are a multi-leveled creature. You have levels of understanding that make you up, that you don't simultaneously understand. You can't articulate them.....and the part of you that is conscious and articulate is floating on a massive substructure that's neither conscious nor articulate.
Could never understood exactly why I was the only one in my family to have an interest in hardcore music
Bad taste?
🔥🔥🔥
Let go and come back , breath in breath out , pattern of surviving life
I love the colors and textures of yarn. It’s costing me a small fortune...and all the space in my closet. 🤭
What you're interested in finds you... if you're heroic enough
JP! You wished me good luck but I'm still watching your video😐
My books are open & spread around me and thanks for reminding me of that.
@8:17 ideas are proven when embodied
Link to this full lecture please?
So how are you gonna be happy if you're always gonna strive for more? The striving part is the one that concerns commericialism. People are never really happy. They can't settle and be satisfied with what they have. They are unable to relax., i think a mix to create balance is better.
*ME age 13 to 20 at 2am*:
Dark thoughts, anxiety, sense of emptiness and whortless...
can't sleep
*ME now at 2am*
Rampage of Jordan Petersons videos and lectures...
still can't sleep
2:50 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Clinging. That is a major fact of many that keeps a lot of us in a world that we’ve seen enough of and grown weary of.
Your boredom= your lack of imagination. A quick trip to the library, just to wonder around til something grabs u....that what'll spark u back up! I have to do this periodically. Also, volunteering...you'd be surprised what that can open up for u!
Stacey Kersting I am in no way bored.
@@skiphoffenflaven8004 Wow. I can't imagine having 'seen enough' of life. It's the most exciting, wonderful, love opportunity. Every new day's a new adventure and a new opportunity to connect with others, to delight others and to see them laugh or smile....to see 'god' in the face of others.
Can I get a link to the full video please, that would be very appreciated
Check out JBP channel (it's in the description of this vid), this is an excerpt of a full university class(2015 Personality and its Transformations 3rd lecture i read below), he has uploaded various courses (actually there are two courses: Personality and it's Transformations and Maps of Meaning, which are uploaded in different years). Go to his reproduction lists and there you will be amused with tons of high quality information content.
Does anyone have an image of the symbols he's referring to?
I’m rather sure I have at least some control over what interests me though, most of what I’m interested in I’ve decided to take interest and keep interest in.
Fearghus Keitz are you Elon Musk undercover? Or are you deciding to strive for a mediocre existence? Did you decide to be interested in dumb UA-cam videos when you could be interested in hardcore academic shit? I wish I wasn’t interested in replying to your comment-alas
@@BooseJuice :)))
What I'm curious about is how I can bring myself to learn about something that bores me or doesn't interest me with a minimum amount of suffering?
Multifaceted cognitive subjective symbolic significance. Conceptualisations proliferate.
Please don’t turn into other channels that do clickbait videos for short term profit. I subbed for this peace of mind
Highest valued content on UA-cam only cost your attention. God bless JBP
Where can I find the rest of this lecture? Thnx in advance!
It is in the description
There is an old saying, the bird does not rely on the strength of the branch... but his ability to fly should it break.
I wish I knew about this kind of video 10 years ago when I was 20. On the other hand, there is no way I would understand any of it... I hope it not late in 30 to man-up, shape-up and make something of yourself
I want to hear jordan talk about admiral byrd and the icewall 😅
The Amygdala is a key facet of these reactions
Yes my friend how do you say the suvlaki is a key dish of the greek cuisine. Mm.
This association of ideas to personalities btw is the same concept used in starter pack memes
3:27
Is from a lecture? If so what course specifically?
What year is this lecture from?
!!!
explains plenty
5:50 would be great if he then chugged a can of Special Brew right there ;-)
0:34 Godfather scratch
Pls for, can someone help me explain what JP says in this video in layman’s terms?
basically, you have an instinct that guides you towards what you like/ find interesting.
@@thatmandan4488 it makes sense. Every decision we make that results in a positive outcome reinforces the likelihood we will make similar (not the same) decisions again.
He is saying that the things that you are interested in are the result of the framework of your subconscious. Most of what you really are is behind your ego. The real power of the mind is the subconscious.
well put everyone :)
If you watch the full video (and maybe the whole course), I'm sure you will get it. These are complicated issues, and you can't understand them just by watching these excerpts.
levels of understanding.... why do people gaze at the crucifix - meaning ?? ;;;; human = a multi-leveled creature..... striving to be conscious and articulate.... Meaning of life.... Rogers = the importance of listening.... Cannot be protected from what is dangerous.... Rigid thought patterns..... Walls..... Rogers - people want to cling to what they allready have..... Things you know VS Things you dont know - on a quest.... IDEAS take on an embodied form.....
We are not half spirit and half matter. Interesting that he would state that as a fact...
I love when teachers say, "exams are boring". facts*
Alan Watts says the new form of consciousness is a hypersensitive way of seeing fear,he said something like that
what is he drinking? 5:50 ?
*isn't?
All the other people as defense... ?!
This portion of lecture reminds me of Homer forgetting how to stop on his skis, instead just thinking "stupid sexy Flanders"
After a head injury, I lost all interest in everything.
Can you send me a DM? I had a traumatic brain injury at 14. The doctors said I had 1% chance of living and yet here I am. I struggle with withdrawing and connection. I have a relationship. I’ve struggled with addiction. And anxiety and depression. I always wondered if I was always this way or my brain injury (subdural hematoma) changed me when my brain was exposed to air or how it healed after the trauma. I had 3 plates and 6 screws holding my skull together after. I’ve always wondered if I am not close to what I would have been had if not had happened or wonder if it saved me and I was set to be a terrible person. It’s a hard thought. I don’t remember enough before 14 emotion and processing wise to know if I am different or just the same. Please DM if you’d like to talkz
any return of thoughts or emotions?
In sum: safe spaces are very bad for you in the long run.
Mr Peterson is telling us about the amazing depths of genuine, traditional, and obedient Catholic faith.......not the “nice” modern version that’s being used to cover up abuse and deny Heaven and Hell because those vile, sinful priests are trying to avoid their destiny.
Youre lost.
Am I the only one who thinks the titles are actually NOT hogwash? Lol
Why is it that iam not interested in anything then?
What interests us is in deed voluntary. How we were indoctrinated to believe from childhood (on our parts) was involuntary.
For instance, if we were taught in childhood that without belief in "God," that the god would then disown us in "the" afterlife, which would result in eternal suffering for our "souls" ... we didn't have any choice in that indoctrination ... making our system of belief involuntary.
If, however, later in life, we choose to become non-believers in the existence of a god ... which is what occurred in my case ... THAT was and IS voluntary.
I’m half spirit apparently. I doubt this. Love Jordan though.
Bro where's the full lecture for this? It cuts off right when it gets interesting.
Full talk:
ua-cam.com/video/t966lVrHEzo/v-deo.html
i really want him to analyze islamic symbolism
Nothing that you do is truly "voluntary" or done of your own volition.
I'm picking my nose right now. Who's making me do that?
@@nightfighter7452 The voices in your head?
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I think he's wrong on this. Specific interests are a bit removed from basic human needs, but not that far. How would new "hierarchies of value" be born of not for people coming up with new interests? If a person is lazy and had no discipline, that's another matter.
LOL News flash! Everything is involuntary! The ego is an illusion. There is no free will. That is a fact. Accept it, and life gets 100 times easier.
When you wrote this comment did you think it would actually help anybody who read it?
Yea no free will right. So i have no choice but to be depressed and die a lonesome death and there is nothing i can do about it bc "fact". Great advice there doc
@@solidmeme7512 Q; How many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb ?
@@anvilbrunner.2013 twenty
@@solidmeme7512 No not twenty, it just take's one. But the lightbulb has got to want to change.
Karl Gustav Jung is the greatest mind of the modern era.
You meant the greatest pseudo-scientist who is definitely not Discount-Freud, who is another pseudo-scientist.
@@6drk6mrc6 lol i guess youre one of those people who cant see beyond numbers and charts and research papers.
@@varolussalsanclar1163 I can't see anything beyond experiential reality, because most probably there is nothing beyond it. But, I am okay with musings about it.
@@6drk6mrc6 i think you are a bit confused. Experiential reality is seeing the world according to your own thoughts, feelings, and experiences (as opposed to agreement reality, which forms the basis of both science and religion) and requires the capacity for deep thinking and reasoning, beyond just whats on the surface like numbers, data and observations. Freud and Jung can almost be considered pioneers of this. I think we are really on the same page here, if that is what you mean by experiential reality.
If you consider Jung and Freud to be pseudoscientists, or regard Jung as a discount Freud, you clearly understand neither. Nor do you begin to understand Hermes Trismegistus, for they both could be said to be modern prophets of aspects of his/the perennial philosophy.
Is it just me or is Jordan starting to look more and more like Stan Laurel??
This is an old video of him when he was younger @crldnlc
THIS ISNT BEARD ERA
Obviously Jordan has not read Rudolf Steiner’s “Philosophy of Freedom”. Where with beautiful logic Steiner shows how the knowing doer is free. He shifts the question from “Is the human being free?” to “How free is the human being?” Different situations have more or less room for choice.
Well, we need to stop and contemplate the foundation of the question. It starts early. You need to clean your room, lest you subject yourself to the insalubriousness of the mindset of the death spiral of the structural patriarchal heirarchy. In doing so you flagrantly disavow all semblance to equality. It's your moral obligation to clean your room and if you don't comply to your morals, myself as your peer and fellow member of society will be forced to wash my hands of you on the extreme fringe edge, and get back to my colleges in the middle where we DO clean our room.
Good chance he's full of it. I'll still listen tho, cuz who the hell else has got a UA-cam about everything?
He's genius...
But here he criticized the people who believed in death and resurrection..
He is contradicting himself... when he talks about Christianity he talks as if believes in it(I assume yes)...
Christianity (and Islam) is all about resurrection....
Do you think if the human race were telepathic JP would be out of a job? 😜
Yes
No, we'd need people like him to make sense out of all the chaos.
www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000300070001-7
No, because we are.
His hands should be on Ritalin.. o_O
What if someone with magical powers came over and caught you doing something wrong? Convert to Islam?
God Himself It’s what I want to do but it doesn’t feel right for some reason so how can I do something that doesn’t feel right?
God Himself Someone made it impossible for me to believe in God, who would like to stand up and take the credit for their amazing work?
God Himself Well, the doctors told me and a room full of my family members that our son would be born dead and that we should consider getting an abortion but then this other thing happened and I guess a lot of people haven’t met the all screaming voice of the universe yet Amen the Truth
Everything since then has just been a challenge to my faith including all of the people down at the church with their prayer board.
And if you don’t like it then don’t create a place where someone is willing to bear the burden for God, mean it truly in their heart at the darkest moment of their life, meet the all screaming voice of the universe and get a miracle baby that the doctors told us would be born dead and that we should abort. When Alex Jones is telling me how great the place is, and are there people in the meet here? Because Jordan Peterson says you can only be as happy as the burden you’re willing to bear but what if that burden might totally destroy your life?
Do we all believe in this unconscious thing? That we are driven by the unconscious? Religion is not unconscious it is taught as a custom. I like the idea but it's probably bogus. A Freudian story. In essence it is like believing in God. Replacing belief in God with belief in the unconscious.
BrandOdyssey well he’s speaking on the psychoanalytical school of thought but using both Freudian and Jungian influences in his thinking. Also I would argue that religion is something deeply unconscious, we’ve managed to articulate it pretty well but I believe it remains a product of our unconscious drives. Ricky Gervais once talked about how if you got rid of every bible, we wouldn’t be able to recreate it. While I think it’s true that we may not recreate the stories with the exact same details, I do think that we’d still come up with the same moral principles behind them. That’s just my two cents though, arrive at your own conclusion =]
I think the unconcious is just a way to describe something "under our conscious awareness". It is mentally impossible to maintain hundreds of ideas at a time consciously. He is talking about associations we accumulate over time that create an integrated perception of someone/something. Although, not always the true image we hold these...seemingly caricature like conceptions of certain personalities. So, yes, the unconscious is not really a physical thing. It's just describing a web of integrated thoughts that are pushed down and under our awareness. Hope that makes sense.
Also-adding to that, I think even the "unconscious" being received as "woo woo" pseudoscience is a building of a schema of the concept of unconscious. Like "we are all driven by this mysterious thing". It is not so mysterious when you realize you've consumed the collective ideas near and far of every concept out there. That is how you've built your view of worldly things (people, places, things etc). And even things we may not be able to describe verbally because we learned them at a pre-verbal stage of our life or had no way of integrating the concepts into our limited knowledge.
Everyone has a God, if they call it a God is another question.
Religion is not just taught as a custom - spiritual beliefs, especially in invisible beings, is so pervasive in human cultures that they should be viewed as an inherent behavior in our species. Of course, it’s a range - some people have the behavior very weakly, some very strongly.