Thats not true. Cthulhu has no abilities, just as Godzilla. As abstract terms, they are non-existent and thus infinitely less powerful than a 4-year old child playing pretend.
@@jraulerson3081in my opinion, and since one of the directors of the film worked on AOT, shin godzilla is is how godzilla would look if it was made by attack on titan.
Cthulhu is a gigantic jelly monster who can influence dreams , has spells, (of which we've only seen one) and is keeping the Old Ones alive indefinitely so long as he doesn't move. He's not all powerful.
@@jraulerson3081 Except you know It was never confirmed to be Cthulhu And it couldn't have been , since then he would have wiped out everyone On the other hand , R'lyeh had countless Star Spawn , a shapeshifting alien species that take on a form that resembles Cthulhu himself (But smaller) Which fits the scale , since a Walking mountain would be way too big for a boat to crush it's skull. And even then, this Star Spawn instantly regenerated from it's wound
It was confirmed to be Cthulhu. "The thing of the idols. The green, sticky, spawn of the stars had waked to claim its own....after vigintillions of years, Great Cthulhu was loose again and ravening for delight." The mountain thing is largely ascribed to poetic license, or an unhinged psyche reeling at the revelation of his existence. Cthulhu did regenerate, but if it was instantaneous, the Alert would not have had the chance to escape, which it did since we have Briden and Johannsen who made it back to shore@@royalripper7453
It was confirmed to be Cthulhu. "The thing of the idols, the green, sticky spawn of the stars had waked to claim its own.....After vigintillions of years, Great Cthulhu was loose again and ravening for delight." The size of Cthulhu is largely poetic license, the realization of an unhinged psyche reeling at the existence of Cthulhu. His regeneration is not instant. If it was, Briden and Johannsen would not have made it back to shore, the newspaper clipping the narrator (Wayland Thurston) found would not exist, and he would not have visited Oslo to find Johannsen's journal detailing the account.@@royalripper7453
As someone who knows what the hell they're talking about, Goji stands a better chance than you think. He would have to wholly bodily destroy Cthulhu, but depending on the iteration of Godzilla it could be done.
@@9999aanonymous i watch all of who's videos all the way threw and even rewatch some,but i am busy rn so i wanted to leave a funny comment before i go lol
That being said, it'd be interesting if you covered the 13th Dimensional Godzilla Ultima or Godzilla in hell and see for yourself how they'd match up against Cthulhu
@@juanjoyaborja.3054tbh even that is putting it mildly in the void, concepts such as dimensionality no longer exist or apply. infinite dimensional would imply still being within the "bounds" of dimensionality. which Cthulhu is completely outside of
I loved Godzilla in Minus One, felt genuinely scary; even though it was definitely humans who attacked him first, realistically it was like someone going out of their way to mass murder bees because they got stung by one as a kid. It also seems impossible to ever get rid of, just like wars, and that combination made it the most terrifying Godzilla I have seen. However I have not heard anyone say it it could defeat gods. Even if it grew the size of the milky way it's still bound to our 3d material universe. Could kick the shit out of any avatar or partial representation of a god, but again that's like Bowser killing Mario in a game, the player/god isn't anything more than annoyed.
Okay lol you immediately used the same universe sized argument, nice. The "he can just spawn 10 billion Godzillas" is questionable though. If Cthulhu is evil (he is) and can do that at any time, why the fuck is Lovecraft's work suspenseful and not just "everyone died, the end".
@@Zwijger Cthulhu is never evil, that is a wrong assumption people make because "ooh tentacles monster from the depths", any destruction caused by Cthulhu is accidental and a side-effect of him just being there, like how you could accidentally step on a ant nest, destroying their civilization, they frame you as the ultimate evil, meanwhile you’re just on a hike, thinking "that ground was a little bumpy lol"
You did like 5 minutes of research before typing this comment just like how your frog savior did before making this video and giving your comment a heart, right
@@Reeeas Unfortunately literary who will only read and care about the comments that praise and will say overdosing on copium to people who criticize his ignorance on Godzilla. Anyways there's a youtuber called warblades omega who did a video on this topic and did actual research. Just thought you might wanna watch a video on this topic made by someone who knows what they're talking about.
This match up exist because a lot people just think athe Lovecraftoan gods are just scary tentacle monsters and not beings who for which reality is a video game they play with. I blame modern day writing of the Lovecraft god for this.
Cthulhu, unlike the bigger entities is just a tentacle monster, though. He has one job, and that's preserving the bodies of himself and the Old Ones in R'lyeh. He and they cannot move. It's part of the spell. He can regenerate, but he's anything but invulnerable. He's not in the realm of dreams because he has to be conscious to keep that spell going. Later authors literally came along to make a monster who could serve as a contingency in case he died, because he can be killed. The idea of Cthulhu is basically "He's big, scary, apocalyptic in scale, but he's the TIP of the iceberg"
The boat thing is not a funny haha moment. It's meant to show how he is vulnerable, but we as humans would never be able to deal with something like him.
The same case is with Godzilla, people (like the person who made this video) just think he's a big lizard when even in live-action two Godzillas are higher dimensional
I love rewatching your content time after time Your videos explaining different creatures/beings are really interesting. Thank you for your work, never stop
1:09 It’s probably because of the fact that most people think Cthulhu is sleeping in R’yeh with the great old ones, which would be in the ocean with Godzilla.
@@VegetaManners na bro Godzilla in hell is multiversal while cthulu can be scale to outerversal the fight would be overkill but that is assumption cthulu don't have that much feats accept statements only because of him being an outer God and due to those statements we can say he is outerversal
@@aaravyadav7503 Godzilla in Hell is not Multi my friend he killed Satan & God in his verse which are Abstract Concepts of Life & Death in his World with not Much difficulty, not to mention how he killed everything and Left. Sorry but Godzilla in Hell is easily Outer or possibly Higher so I believe it would be a close fight but that's my opinion you're welcome to disagree.
It's not even accurate, a water drop is closer to a volcano's "strength" than Godzilla is to Cthulhu. I am a huge Godzilla fan but I'm glad about the outcome. I like seeing Godzilla be powerful but i don't think he should be Great old one powerful. It would be like making John Wick as strong as Goku, wouldn't make him anymore cool or badass but instead just ruin what originally made him great.
@@anormalhumanhopefully8570 not really, Cthulhu is multiple infinities in power and the creator of Godzilla in hell said the hell Kaiju was just a monster on a throne. The marvel Godzilla is stronger, maybe Godzilla ultima 13 dimensions could stand a better chance.
@@moolate127 wasn't he just going to become a universe, Azathoth isn't a creator god or something that dreams the universe, he's way beyond universal in power
@@literarywho You unironically make the most concise and accurate power scaling videos taking into account everything, and it's refreshing/hilarious to see compared to the "big stronk" stuff you see everywhere else. It's a unique twist, and you pull it off spectacularly!
@@literarywho Why did you make this video when you didn't know anything about how powerful Godzilla is? ua-cam.com/video/u3kggfhBoYI/v-deo.htmlsi=zDA_7p8fPT7Gjsve This is a debunk of this video
@@JimboS1ice999 bro unironically downplayed Godzilla to the point that it's not even laughable. The only word l can use to describe him after watching this video is "ignorant"
Fax tho. No Godzilla in film has a chance against Cthulhu. Before Goji-Chronic answers imma beat him to the punch and say that: Only 2 Godzillas that stand a chance outside of films is #1 Comic Book Godzilla who can overpower Thor and beat up even characters like Superman if he lands a hit (in the more recent variation of comic Godzilla ofc), and #2 Godzilla Ultimata True Form (Book Varient). #1 can only physically stand up to Cthulhu. But once Cthulhu pulls out Reality warping it's over for this Godzilla. Whilst #2 puts up a fight both physically and in reality warping capabilities. Given he has a Archetypal True Form which manifests his main form. This Archetypal True Form of Godzilla Ultimata is the only one that stands a chance I'd say. Given he is stated to be outside the laws of physics and in-turn standard Dimensionality (altho String Theory dimensionality is a different story), and is acausal and capable of warping the entire universe and possibly the multiverse by just existing (very lovecraftian for sure). Ignore Godzilla Ultimata outside his book varient though. His on-screen film varient is so nerfed it's pathetic. 😂
Given ALL we know about Cthulhu IN CANON and not via scaling, Heisei Goji in his burning form during his meltdown would atomize Cthulhu. Beings in the mythos which AREN'T gods were able to force his kind to make peace or sign their own death warrants.
Cthulhu has never once in canon warped reality. Not once. He is able to communicate via telepathy until he's in his tomb under the sea. Then that goes right out. The other caveat is it only works if you're asleep and sensitive to his signals. His regeneration is impressive, but clearly via the boat example he is able to feel pain, and considering the person who struck him could watch in realtime as Cthulhu knit himself back together, it's a slow process at best. Now we're left with size and strength. Size is debatable, as he was able to so quickly snatch up sailors who were standing in front of them before they moved. That's not necessarily due to his alien nature, but rather his actual size. With that out of the way we move to strength. Cthulhu's two feats of strength are pulling himself out of his tomb and creating waves as he swam towards the boat which created the meme, the Alert. The waves themselves weren't enough enough to capsize the ship. Once struck, Cthulhu in the only story we see him was left to wait until his city sank with him again.
@@jraulerson3081 Doesn't really matter anyways if the scaling indicates he is beyond dreamers who can warp reality. 😂 In Lovecraft mythos, The Great Old Ones only tend to warp reality by existing and having to manifest a form from the Void into the Material Reality. Great Old Ones don't choose to warp things. It kinda just falls out, Hence the madness and stuff.
@@citrusreality64 Huh? Ayo hol up, What scaling does Godzilla in Hell have that allows this? IIRC The best feat he had in there was destroying a planet pocket dimension of sorts. Him facing the God in the verse he was in there doesn't really scale anywhere unless the god has feats himself. 🤔
People bring up that Godzilla in Hell is stronger than Cthulu, but I don't know how much to trust those people. All I hear is "HE'S KILLED LITERAL GODS!?!?!" OK, but MCU Thor is the God of Thunder and got knocked unconscious by a silly little taser. I haven't even heard of anything that could put Godzilla in Hell at anything near Cthuhlu.
The main question I have is if Chtullu would be able to affect godzilla from the void. I don't think godzilla can somehow reach the void anymore than he could reach the Warp in warhammer 40k, but I don't see how chtullu could do anything to him from over there. Chtullu got scattered t in his physical form, so we know he must follow physical laws that allow his physical form to be affected, even if it doens't affect the boat that scattered him, seeming more like smoke than anything else.. So then he would be vanished back tot he void, like a Great Daemon from 40k, but how would be do anything from over there? I don't know why chtullu would need a physical form if he could just destroy the world all the way from the void, so I personally think neither one can kill the other since Chtullu isn't a being of the physical realm, while godzilla is the height of the physical realm. Of course, godzillas power depdns on version since the most recent one was damaged by a plane with bombs, but even then that would make him comparable to the physical vesion of chtullu. Of course, I can be convinced otherwise, but I would like to know how chtullu is meant to kill godzilla from the void, and where it says he ca do that, as well as an explanation as to why he needs a physical form if he can do all that, as the chtullu seems more like an abstract idea than an actual being that can be fought, but that also means I don't see how he can dight a walking nuclear reactor such as godzilla.
Cthulhu is terrifying, but at the end of the day he's a telepathic squid with non-functioning wings and one spell we know of. Without powerscaling, he has virtually no feats in the only story he appears. His regeneration allows him to last, but pain definitely can be inflicted, and with enough of it perhaps long enough to atomize him, assuming you can.
Heisei Goji at 1200C, the literal world destroying form in that series would atomize the squid. Cthulhu is huge, but fairly frail apart from regeneration.
@@jraulerson3081 You are comparing the radioactive lizard to an incomprehensibly powerful god that's beyond space and time. Pumping up numbers ain't shit compared to something that treats the universe like a tiny sand castle
Holy mackarel, I can't believe I didn't see this earlier. Okay, so I'll try to make this the last comment I reply to on the subject, though some of the debate has been fun. Cthulhu is vulnerable to conventional means of damage (see the boat incident). He was forced by a boat hitting him with its bowsprit to stop his chase and regenerate his physical body. Now, also consider that in the Dream Cycle series of stories by HPL, Cthulhu NEVER appears. Why? Because he can't. He's trapped in his tomb (the literal slimy stone prison he made) to keep a spell going which allows him and the other Old Ones to continue living while the stars are 'wrong' for them. He only appeared in the Call of Cthulhu because of a freak accident that allowed him a bit of freedom. His feats during that time amount to him pulling his bulk out of his prison, swiping and picking up some sailors before they could turn away and swimming after a boat, his strokes creating waves as he went. His telepathy (the most powerful aspect of him) only functions on those who are asleep and only when they're sensitive to his mental energies. Even in the events of the Call of Cthulhu, there were people wholly unaffected in their dreams. That was when he was FREE. His wings also don't function in a way that really benefits him unless he's going from one planet to another and that would require some unspecified spell or the intervention of Yog Sothoth (the literal gate between worlds).@@IAMINSIDEYOURWALLS604 I am not really pulling this out of my ass. You have to understand that Cthulhu, the point of him is that he's terrifying, almost unthinkably so to some people, but he's little more than a telepathic giant with regenerative capabilities. He's the TIP of the iceberg into another dimension of horror.
Depends on the version of Godzilla like you said, Like the monsterverse Godzilla or Shin Godzilla gets one shot but Heisei Godzilla or Godzilla Hell scale to infinite 6D so idk.
Once again Godzilla GiH only preformed his god killing feat with the power of said God. It was called “God’s blessing” and currently Godzilla has it tightly locked within himself. These are all author statements. So you should specify the amp if you’re scaling him beyond 4D.
How did a boat kill Cthulus physical manifestation? Did it stick him and he bled out all his human blood? Does he stop exsisting outside of time when he manifests? Because how does anything, especially a boat, hit him if he is seperate from time? Can he also just not unmake the boat, or any threat to him? I have zero context on lovecraft mythos. So this boat meme is both confusing and hilarious at the same time.
Cthulhu wasn't killed. He was damaged, though. He screamed in pain in a "sound the chronicler would not put to paper." He's massive, and proportionally strong, but he's material, albeit able to literally pull himself together "nebulously recombining in its hateful original form". The boat worked because Cthulhu is a big slime and isn't all that resilient when it comes to taking blows. You CAN kill him, though. He's virtually defenseless while he's trapped bodily in his tomb. I think it was Campbell or maybe Bloch sometime later who created a monster ' the secret daughter' of Cthulhu because the writers knew that was a loophole someone could exploit.
The blood thing is also wrong, at least in Cthulhu's case. Blood is just a consequence of his actions and those of his kind. They're ultimate hedonists, violence very much included. They would literally have no source of blood until they arrived on earth. He and the rest of the Old Ones used Yog-Sothoth as a gate between worlds and "brought their cities with them", meaning they pulled a 40k marine drop on the planet, or something similar to that. Cthulhu CAN fly, but his wings are useless on earth. The Elder Things doomed themselves because they lost that ability, both Cthulhu and the Elder things only able to traverse space via the winds of the ather.
The void is not a thing with regards to Cthulhu. Cthulhu is a mortal being insofar as he can be destroyed. If you need evidence of that, consider why his job is to maintain a spell that keeps him and the Old Ones alive. He's laying in his tomb, in the dark...maintaining a spell so that while the stars are 'wrong' (normal for us), he and his ilk do not DIE. Cthulhu is a large alien with a power the Old Ones found useful, and so they made him an honorary Old One. He's not anywhere near on the level of the rest, his physical nature very much included.@@liselottehildegarde5367
@@khushanksolanki9190 His true form is only revealed in the novelisation for the anime, it reveals that his true form resides in countless unreachable higher dimensions. The Archatypes are nothing but mere creations of his, the other Kaiju's have their own true form which exists in the dimension Ultima resides on. If I remember correctly Ultima absorbed his entire plain of existence, the other Kaiju's true forms used to be their own being but Ultima absorbed them or something and now they are a part of him. Ultima also dreams of existence itself and sees everything as an infinite hierarchy of dreams one succeeding one another. When one dream (existence) ends another dream (existence) begins. He is compared to a "tree" or a big stream that absorbs other big streams. He is a very weird mix of Azatoth and Yog-sototh.
"Combine all godzillas-" nonono, I don't care about Cthulhu creaming Zilla after THAT statement was made, we need a video about the Omni-Zilla. All the power sets, max size, and then see how far it gets going up against heavy hitters across the multiverse. (if allowed it's the same Omni-Godzilla running a gauntlet so that Shin's power set at least has a chance to improve itself against tougher and tougher enemies.) Also, the only Godzilla that makes it even close to doing anything to Cthulhu is Shin with adaptability.. and even then, the adaptability likely cannot compensate for Time related fuckary. Conclusion: Cthulhu wins, absent difficulty.
There is only one version of Godzilla that actually has the potential to match other gods like cthulu, But it ironically is from a live-action version. the shin gojira from the original film storyboard concept that could have continued to evolve forever and grow in power. If given enough time, maybe that one would have a chance, but only "maybe" and only if they could evolve to have the same kinds of powers as other gods. The reason most people (you included literary who too it seems) don't know about that one sadly isn't because it's kind of niche nerdy tertiary knowledge from DVD extras and such.
Cthulhu caused earthquakes, nightmares, and spikes of insanity across the entire planet when some Norwegians accidentally woke him up from a nap. And he wasn't even trying -- tectonic and psychological disturbances were just the side effect of him waking up before his alarm clock. Godzilla has to actually make landfall, stomp around, and shoot lasers and shit to match the level of destruction Cthulhu can cause by just going for a leisurely stroll to stretch his legs. If humans are an ant colony, Godzilla is like a dog peeing on the hill or digging it up. Cthulhu is industrial construction equipment paving over the hill and the entire surrounding area to make a parking lot for an airport.
Cthulhu didn't cause any earthquake. It was a freak of nature, albeit a very brief one. The time allowed Cthulhu by happenstance to telepathically connect with humans (something he hadn't been able to since man's earliest days, and even then, he was trapped in his tomb), hence the nightmares. Even with his widespread telepathy, he couldn't affect everyone, just a select few, and only when they were asleep. It's the only way he and the Old Ones can truly communicate with "the fleshy minds of mammals". The spikes of insanity were because his signals reached those who were imaginative or students of the occult. Remember that his city sank, trapping him at the end of the story. That wasn't his doing, either.
@@jraulerson3081 One of my major questions, which I hope you can answer, is how chtullu is meant to kill Godzilla. I know godzilla is less a big lizard and more a walking nuclear reactor, but that seems more than enough to kill chtullus physical form. Sure, I know that Chtullu is from the Void and therefore unable to be truly vanished by physical attacks anymore than a Daemon from warhammer 40k, but considering that chtullu's physical form was destroyed by a boat, and vanished back to the void, I don't see how godzilla couldn't do that, unless we're going by his very weakest versions. I also don't see how godzilla could acess the boat, but if chtullu can instantly destroy godzilla from the void, I don't see why he would need an actual physical form, so I don't see how this fight ends as anything other than a stalemate. You seem like you've actually read the source material, so I just wanted to ask about that since it's the main thing in the video that doesn't strike me as making any sense, with the author only talking about feats of how chtullu is fromt he void and how chtullu mad worshippers describe him as being beyond time and space.
@ChupacabraRex Physically, Cthulhu couldn't. Cthulhu really is a giant jelly monster. Lethal to humans and beings smaller than himself as well as those given to artistic pursuits , theology, or study of the occult. The latter three are the only ones who suffered any effect whatsoever while he was briefly freed in their dreams. Cthulhu would be endlessly paralyzed by the pain of Godzilla's strikes, beam, etc. Cthulhu might have magic to counter this, but we have no evidence to that effect. Furthermore it's highly unlikely Cthulhu is used to combating anything on his scale.
@ChupacabraRex Also, as an aside, the 'void' is not something Cthulhu has access to . (The Realm of Ultimate Chaos is what comes to mind, but it can also simply refer to the void of space) As for bodily destruction, I maintain that atomization would work. Cthulhu, his physical body, is vulnerable and as real to him as you or I experience ours. Just because his biology differs doesn't mean he's invincible. Akeley in "The Whisperer In Darkness" killed multiple Mi-Go who aren't of our universe. So too did a rag-tag group of men banish the progeny of Yog Sothoth in "The Dunwich Horror". Depending on the means afforded, such feats can be accomplished. As a final edit, I should mention that Cthulhu's race before R'lyeh (Cthulhu's city) sank, warred with the Elder Things (living, carnivorous starfish vegetables). These Elder Things aren't much taller than a man and brought Cthulhu's kin to a stalemate. Imagine that. Vegetables forced Great Cthulhu's army to halt their war efforts because the Elder Things possessed weapons that could kill them.
You forgot the most important factor: Godzilla's creators have a contract stating that he's not allowed to lose permanently. Unless we can reanimate HPL to sign a similar contract, Godzilla has to win by default
My biggest question about this video is this.... If Cthulhu needed a physical body to do anything on Earth in the first place, how could he do anything to anyone from the void? Unless I'm just remembering wrong, Cthulhu doesn't have any power over the Earth from the void (hence why he needed a physical body with blood).
He doesn't need blood. Never has. He wouldn't be able to get it unless he was on earth. He plunged from the stars with his kind and their cities to earth. He does not exist in the void, but rather physically in his tomb in the mentioned city. He has power over dreams and the ability to regenerate as well as preserve the other Old Ones so long as he remains unmoving in that tomb.
That's my own question. This question is like asking if Godzilla can kill a Greater Deamon from 40k or skynet from terminator. Sure, skynet and a greater demon can't be killed by sheer raw power since theyll just appear again, but like...how are they gonna do something to godzilla from over there? It's a draw if anything.
I love me some Lovecraft, and I love me some Kaiju films. No contest though, Cthulhu obviously. I think most people just think "big green monster in the sea"!
That's because in the legitimate mythos Cthulhu doesn't do much of anything. He has no feats to suggest he can reach the heights of what is said in the video
Thank god someone gets it! He's a prisoner in his city. He's strictly able to preserve the Old Ones UNTIL R'lyeh rises! Even then, he's not especially durable.@@Squeam9750
He is, though. It's not THAT simple, obviously, but we know he 1. came from the stars 2. warred with the Elder things, resulting in a treaty 3. telepathically communicated with humanity while in his tomb during the period R'lyeh wasn't yet sunk, creating the cult on earth, but after the sinking he couldn't do it anymore. 4. possesses undefined magic but uses some of it to 'preserve' the Old Ones. 5. Upon R'lyeh being brought back to the surface he could communicate again, but only with the 'sensitive' of humanity 6. was able to squeeze his gelatinous body through the door of his tomb and swipe up some sailors before they could run after accidentally freeing him 7. was able to create waves of unspecified size as he swam after the boat, the 'Alert' 8. Screamed in pain from being struck by the bowsprit of the boat, forcing him to stop and regenerate and 9. was forced back into his tomb when the stars blipped back into the 'wrong' positions shortly after the chase of the Alert.
If we're taking this as a composite Godzilla things would be a fair amount closer I think. He's obliterated things larger than him by numerous times, like Magita and Void Ghidorah. He's beaten beings that have power over space and time, see Void Ghidorah again (Though this was very much a banishing to the void scenario. But its obvious Cthulu can't just do whatever to the world from there or he'd have already won everything ever.) Godzilla has has refused the influence of and destroyed literal Gods as well. (1v12'd the Olympian Gods and won, walked into and back out of Hell where he destroyed Satan and even effectively told the powers of Heaven to piss off when they came to try and recruit him) I guess the point is that Godzilla is like Superman. He's exactly as strong as the setting he's in needs him to be. So the fun thought of Godzilla vs Cthulu is perfectly valid. And it does make for a badass image. Could every version of big G beat Cthulu? Of course not. But his strongest forms could at the very least shove his ass back into the void. This post brought to you by Hastur gang. Have you seen the Yellow Sign?
Galactus can literally just pull out his device and wipe Cthulhu from existence, it’s literally that simple :/, may sound cool but once you dig deeper about the character, it’s nothing like you expected
Stop misinforming people about this character. Cthulhu in the only story we actually see him possesses a handful of powers at best. He can fly through the aether of space, he can use unspecified magic, he can regenerate and telepathically communicate with the sensitive persons on our planet, and that ends the moment he's trapped in his tomb again. Cthulhu is not present in the realm of dreams because he's forced to be conscious while maintaining the one spell we know he has, that which preserves him and the Old Ones. He's not godlike in power beyond mortal beings, and even then, the Elder Things brought his kind to a standstill, a race which utilized technology. @@literarywho
@@jraulerson3081 brother stop. you are gonna overdose on copium. i see you frantically replying to every comment. take a break. the lizard lost. just accept it.
I don't care who wins, to be perfectly honest. I love the presentation of your videos, I just wish they were factually correct. Seriously, this is really entertaining, but don't present falsehoods as truth, please.@@literarywho
@@literarywho if we do take composite of both character then godzilla might actually take the dub but it does require a chain of scaling. Godzilla beat superman and the same superman can be compare to cas and true form darkside who are just on a whole another level of power from chulthu but thats just my take. P.s don't attack anyone like the last guy be respectful
You should try Godzilla Ultima Final Form or Godzilla In Hell VS Cthulhu because those two godzillas are the strongest godzillas that exist right now. it should still be a pretty entertaining fight.
i mean... i don't know anything about my moe academia but there's no way deku cannot beat goku with the heart virus. farmer with a shotgun would wreck sick goku.
Heisei Goji at 1200C melts Cthulhu. Game over. He's a frail being that only serves to 1. spread the religion of the Old ones and 2. maintain a spell that keeps them from dying whilethe stars basically don't permit the Old Ones to live.
@@jraulerson3081 false First, heisei is hotter than 1200 C. Secondly, take a look at the other videos about Cthulu and the other creatures from Lovekraft's mythos. You can see that your answer doesn't make any sense
Yeah, I have. I also own the books. They're here next to me. Cthulhu is vulnerable. The boat damaged him because he's physically vulnerable. He's strong, but only due to his sheer size. He can regenerate, but burning Goji would probably ensure at meltdown Cthulhu wouldn't get the chance. They literally invented a means of ensuring Cthulhu wouldn't die, a character for that specific purpose because HPL all but plainly stated he could be killed. I tried not to call out the creator here directly because the videos are entertaining, but in the case of Cthulhu, these statements are factually wrong.
It's true that basically, cthulhu beats godzilla easily but speaking of G.I.H. (Godzilla in Hell), that will be another story. Godzilla hell > Cthulhu Cthulhu > (the whole version of godzilla)
Which Godzilla incarnation are you referring to? Cuz there are incarnations that can defeat him. Godzilla Ultima’s true form and Godzilla In Hell. Official incarnation.
“Um, uh, Cthulhu is a god, Godzilla is a lizard hue hue hue” -People who know nothing about the Japanese Shinto-Buddhist spiritual framework Godzilla is inherently placed in Godzilla is a wrathful god. He’s always been a wrathful god. Things aren’t incomprehensible because they’re great in Lovecraft’s works, they’re incomprehensible because Lovecraft personally was feeble minded and couldn’t comprehend shit. He wrote about the eldritch horrors of air conditioners. Cthulhu can dick around “outside the universe” (he’s not an outer god, he’s an elder god, and essentially a priest, so I don’t know why you think he is) and be randomly scales to vague nonsense all he wants, but all he can manage on Earth is to make a body that got killed by a boat. I don’t mean a warship, or a battleship, I mean a wooden boat. That’s not gonna beat Godzilla, any version of Godzilla. The idea that Cthulhu can just do whatever he wants from the void is ridiculous because it implies that the victory over Cthulhu wasn’t a victory at all and that he’s just as powerful with or without a physical presence. That’s nonsensical, it’s the whole point of him appearing.
You don't even need that. I've been telling people this all day. Cthulhu has size, he has regeneration, UNSPECIFIED magic aside from the ONE he uses to preserve the bodies of himself and the Old Ones and telepathy in DREAMS. That's it. That's the extent of his powerset. The "miles high" thing is more poetic than anything, though I prefer the imagery.
Even if big lizard was a wrathful god, in the universe of Lovecraft the Earth gods are completely fodder to the likes of Cthulhu. Godzilla could be the most powerful deity in the Japanese Shinto-Buddhist spiritual framework, and still be just an ant to squid boi.
Godzilla has never been a god though. Not saying that I agree with the video, but the only mention of him being remotly as a deity is his name coming from an odo island myth. I don't know how much Shintoism and Buddhism influenced godzilla, although I would love to learn about that. But at most, it's mainly symbolic. We know for sure in universe that godzilla is a prehistoric reptile mutated by radiations.
Cthulhu in the actual source material is basically a regenerating slime that can influence dreams. That's it. That's all the powers and feats he has in canon.
To be fair, Godzillas strongest feat EVER is soloing the entire army of heaven AND hell at the same time and this fight would come down to a physical brawl not existential one
Maybe? You'd have to atomize Cthulhu (which most Goji's can). A sword would definitely paralyze the Priest with pain and force him to regenerate in place if you cut him in half, for example.
MV Godzilla: I can beat anything! Cthulhu: *Snaps his fingers* (proceeds to watch Godzilla unwillingly gouge his own eyes out before slicing his belly open and dying)
Godzilla: nah i'd win
Can almighty Godzilla deteat chuthulu
Goji we need a Godzilla V.S Cthulu vid, NOW
Cthullu is a chump. Godzilla would win.
The goat has arrived.
@@EinSilverRose no
Cthulhu has the abilities of a 4-year old child playing pretend
You have a death laser? Haha I have a shield that blocks death lasers
@@tacomiester 😂😂😂
Thats not true. Cthulhu has no abilities, just as Godzilla. As abstract terms, they are non-existent and thus infinitely less powerful than a 4-year old child playing pretend.
@@GnosticAtheist I suggest you familiarize yourself with the concept of fiction lmao
Or a racist nihilist playing pretend
Godzilla is essentially just a radioactive yithian in Lovecraftian Mythos.
Unless we're talking about Shin, in which case it'd be closer to a very sluggishly morphing shoggoth...with a Yithian weapon.
@@jraulerson3081in my opinion, and since one of the directors of the film worked on AOT, shin godzilla is is how godzilla would look if it was made by attack on titan.
godzilla no diffs cthulhu
@@jraulerson3081 Shin would definitely Interest the Great Old Ones and eventually, the Outer Gods.
But only as a pet.
@@Mahamba excellent satire
Who would win?
A gigantic incomprehensible god of infinite powers
Boat
our HERO boat-sama truly is the strongest!
Boat-sama, brother to Truck-kun, and one of the Lords of Isekai.
@@NyarlathotepCrawlingChaos
boat-sama walked so that truck-kun could run 😤
Cthulhu is a gigantic jelly monster who can influence dreams , has spells, (of which we've only seen one) and is keeping the Old Ones alive indefinitely so long as he doesn't move. He's not all powerful.
@@NyarlathotepCrawlingChaosoh my God, when you think about it Boat-sama really isekai Cthulhu back to the void
Cthulhu vs Godzilla is more like a single molecule of water vs all the heat in the universe
It's not, though. Cthulhu is size over substance. Consider also that a boat drove through his head. Cthulhu screamed from THAT.
@@jraulerson3081 Except you know
It was never confirmed to be Cthulhu
And it couldn't have been , since then he would have wiped out everyone
On the other hand , R'lyeh had countless Star Spawn , a shapeshifting alien species that take on a form that resembles Cthulhu himself (But smaller)
Which fits the scale , since a Walking mountain would be way too big for a boat to crush it's skull.
And even then, this Star Spawn instantly regenerated from it's wound
It was confirmed to be Cthulhu. "The thing of the idols. The green, sticky, spawn of the stars had waked to claim its own....after vigintillions of years, Great Cthulhu was loose again and ravening for delight." The mountain thing is largely ascribed to poetic license, or an unhinged psyche reeling at the revelation of his existence. Cthulhu did regenerate, but if it was instantaneous, the Alert would not have had the chance to escape, which it did since we have Briden and Johannsen who made it back to shore@@royalripper7453
It was confirmed to be Cthulhu. "The thing of the idols, the green, sticky spawn of the stars had waked to claim its own.....After vigintillions of years, Great Cthulhu was loose again and ravening for delight." The size of Cthulhu is largely poetic license, the realization of an unhinged psyche reeling at the existence of Cthulhu. His regeneration is not instant. If it was, Briden and Johannsen would not have made it back to shore, the newspaper clipping the narrator (Wayland Thurston) found would not exist, and he would not have visited Oslo to find Johannsen's journal detailing the account.@@royalripper7453
@@jraulerson3081 i don't think that was cthulhu. That was starchild
Yes, he can. Very easily, in fact.
*>Refuses to elaborate further*
*>Leaves without watching the video.*
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Wtf based
False.
@@cnarylmaz998 This is not what it is used for.
@@CollectMyP4ges Not based, just untrue.
I like Godzilla, but I can admit when my boy has lost.
As someone who knows what the hell they're talking about, Goji stands a better chance than you think. He would have to wholly bodily destroy Cthulhu, but depending on the iteration of Godzilla it could be done.
@jraulerson3081 explain how would Godzilla beat cthulhu once he is in the void
The short answer is THERE IS NO VOID IN THE ACTUAL TEXT. THAT'S A FABRICATION.@gabrielflame2978
@@BielMatI urge you to actually read The Call of Cthulhu if you don't believe me. Seriously, there's no better way to debunk this nonsense.
There IS the realm of Ultimate Chaos, but that is the domain of Azathoth, his musicians, dancers and Nyarlathotep.
All kaijus going to fight Cthulhu.
Cthulhu: nah I'd win.
little godzilla: ez get better noob
@@1qeety3 cap
@@Iamafanofthings50 do you understand a joke?
6:36 using exactly this pic of Deku is just a cherry on top.
Hell, I'd listen to a scaling matchup between Goku with the heart virus and Deku.
@@migarsormrapophis2755 close battle LMAO
If we are ants for Cthulhu, then any iteration of Godzilla would be a gecko to Cthulhu.
By the way it’s the super powered versions of humans called the dreamers that are ants to Cthullu
Humans are ants to godzilla, let alone cthulhu.
godzilla neg diffs, cope harder godzilla outscales midthulhu
@@MahambaNo one cares
@@thedelordhimselfgokublack So humans are like dust mites to Cuthulu got it.
But can he beat boat kun tho?
have u finish the vid now?
Spawn 1 million boats make every boat 1 million times stronger and make those boats all attack that one boat
@@9999aanonymous i watch all of who's videos all the way threw and even rewatch some,but i am busy rn so i wanted to leave a funny comment before i go lol
@@Strivfer
thanks!
@@literarywho np
That being said, it'd be interesting if you covered the 13th Dimensional Godzilla Ultima or Godzilla in hell and see for yourself how they'd match up against Cthulhu
Cthulhu is infinite-dimensional. I doubt Ultima could even touch him.
Nah, they'd win (they wouldn't)
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 Where is that stated just genuinely curious
@@Evandd The Call of Cthulhu by HP Lovecraft.
@@juanjoyaborja.3054tbh even that is putting it mildly
in the void, concepts such as dimensionality no longer exist or apply. infinite dimensional would imply still being within the "bounds" of dimensionality. which Cthulhu is completely outside of
"Stand proud Godzilla, you are strong" -Cthulhu
I loved Godzilla in Minus One, felt genuinely scary; even though it was definitely humans who attacked him first, realistically it was like someone going out of their way to mass murder bees because they got stung by one as a kid. It also seems impossible to ever get rid of, just like wars, and that combination made it the most terrifying Godzilla I have seen.
However I have not heard anyone say it it could defeat gods. Even if it grew the size of the milky way it's still bound to our 3d material universe. Could kick the shit out of any avatar or partial representation of a god, but again that's like Bowser killing Mario in a game, the player/god isn't anything more than annoyed.
Okay lol you immediately used the same universe sized argument, nice. The "he can just spawn 10 billion Godzillas" is questionable though. If Cthulhu is evil (he is) and can do that at any time, why the fuck is Lovecraft's work suspenseful and not just "everyone died, the end".
@@Zwijgercause cthulhu is not evil
They follow cosmicism and just don't care
@@Zwijger Cthulhu is never evil, that is a wrong assumption people make because "ooh tentacles monster from the depths", any destruction caused by Cthulhu is accidental and a side-effect of him just being there, like how you could accidentally step on a ant nest, destroying their civilization, they frame you as the ultimate evil, meanwhile you’re just on a hike, thinking "that ground was a little bumpy lol"
@@Zwijger The thing is Lovecraftian monsters/gods aren't evil, they are just non caring. They just don't care whatsoever about humanity or mortals.
@@vn9574 even beyond non caring, they are so powerful we are beneath notice
0:15 well when you put it like that, I guess not 😅
This is the coolest video that just exists to help hype up a fellow creator
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Thoughts?
You did like 5 minutes of research before typing this comment just like how your frog savior did before making this video and giving your comment a heart, right
Research is important, this video is a clear example.
@@Reeeas Unfortunately literary who will only read and care about the comments that praise and will say overdosing on copium to people who criticize his ignorance on Godzilla.
Anyways there's a youtuber called warblades omega who did a video on this topic and did actual research. Just thought you might wanna watch a video on this topic made by someone who knows what they're talking about.
@@khushanksolanki9190 I watched him before, as well as GKOTM 5812
This match up exist because a lot people just think athe Lovecraftoan gods are just scary tentacle monsters and not beings who for which reality is a video game they play with.
I blame modern day writing of the Lovecraft god for this.
Cthulhu, unlike the bigger entities is just a tentacle monster, though. He has one job, and that's preserving the bodies of himself and the Old Ones in R'lyeh. He and they cannot move. It's part of the spell. He can regenerate, but he's anything but invulnerable. He's not in the realm of dreams because he has to be conscious to keep that spell going. Later authors literally came along to make a monster who could serve as a contingency in case he died, because he can be killed. The idea of Cthulhu is basically "He's big, scary, apocalyptic in scale, but he's the TIP of the iceberg"
The boat thing is not a funny haha moment. It's meant to show how he is vulnerable, but we as humans would never be able to deal with something like him.
The same case is with Godzilla, people (like the person who made this video) just think he's a big lizard when even in live-action two Godzillas are higher dimensional
I love rewatching your content time after time
Your videos explaining different creatures/beings are really interesting. Thank you for your work, never stop
thank you brother. much love.
@@literarywho There is a debunk of this video by a person who liked your scaling
@@khushanksolanki9190 i need to see
@@khushanksolanki9190 name of the debunk?
@@jmd9402 Litterly who..... what the hell man
"Even kings Are but the means But which the gods Control the scenes" most epic quote I even heard💪
13 dimensional Godzilla Ultima: Finally, a worthy opponent, OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY!
Ultima isnt and worthy opponent
Cthulu is beyond dimensions
13d ultima is not real btw, he is 4d, at most 5d with wank
still not really
Cthulhu BIG STRONK
Ah, but you left out Godzilla's greatest and deadliest asset...
TOHO's legal team.
1:09 It’s probably because of the fact that most people think Cthulhu is sleeping in R’yeh with the great old ones, which would be in the ocean with Godzilla.
Godzilla In Hell: "Just standing in the Corner watching"
So that he don't get destroyed by cthulu
@@aaravyadav7503 *Maybe but IDK Cthulu & Godzilla in Hell would have a Dragon Ball Style Fight?*
@@VegetaManners na bro Godzilla in hell is multiversal while cthulu can be scale to outerversal the fight would be overkill but that is assumption cthulu don't have that much feats accept statements only because of him being an outer God and due to those statements we can say he is outerversal
@@aaravyadav7503 Godzilla in Hell is not Multi my friend he killed Satan & God in his verse which are Abstract Concepts of Life & Death in his World with not Much difficulty, not to mention how he killed everything and Left. Sorry but Godzilla in Hell is easily Outer or possibly Higher so I believe it would be a close fight but that's my opinion you're welcome to disagree.
This is so funny the accent,the editing,the thumbnail everything is perfect
I found your channel via that 1 hour video; it's amazing!
The comment about a water drop on a Volcano is so real regarding a lot of match ups it hurts.
Another Banger video as always very funny too
It's not even accurate, a water drop is closer to a volcano's "strength" than Godzilla is to Cthulhu.
I am a huge Godzilla fan but I'm glad about the outcome. I like seeing Godzilla be powerful but i don't think he should be Great old one powerful.
It would be like making John Wick as strong as Goku, wouldn't make him anymore cool or badass but instead just ruin what originally made him great.
@@hunterkage2842 now when it comes to Godzilla in Hell the matchup is way closer
@@anormalhumanhopefully8570 not really, Cthulhu is multiple infinities in power and the creator of Godzilla in hell said the hell Kaiju was just a monster on a throne. The marvel Godzilla is stronger, maybe Godzilla ultima 13 dimensions could stand a better chance.
@@hunterkage2842What about Shin Godzilla's theoretical final form where he becomes Azathoth?
@@moolate127 wasn't he just going to become a universe, Azathoth isn't a creator god or something that dreams the universe, he's way beyond universal in power
I already knew the anser but i stil wached beacuse I love you re videos
Request: power scale world of darknes
Marvel godzilla: wanna throw hand's pal?
it's a GOOD day when my guy "literary who" uploads a new video. love you.
love you too brother.
@@literarywho You unironically make the most concise and accurate power scaling videos taking into account everything, and it's refreshing/hilarious to see compared to the "big stronk" stuff you see everywhere else. It's a unique twist, and you pull it off spectacularly!
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@@literarywho Why did you make this video when you didn't know anything about how powerful Godzilla is?
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This is a debunk of this video
@@JimboS1ice999 bro unironically downplayed Godzilla to the point that it's not even laughable.
The only word l can use to describe him after watching this video is "ignorant"
Cthulhu was killed by a boat...So i guess that boat was the real god.
He wasn't killed by the boat he regenerated immediately
@vortiger7375 📖
Fax tho. No Godzilla in film has a chance against Cthulhu.
Before Goji-Chronic answers imma beat him to the punch and say that:
Only 2 Godzillas that stand a chance outside of films is #1 Comic Book Godzilla who can overpower Thor and beat up even characters like Superman if he lands a hit (in the more recent variation of comic Godzilla ofc), and #2 Godzilla Ultimata True Form (Book Varient).
#1 can only physically stand up to Cthulhu. But once Cthulhu pulls out Reality warping it's over for this Godzilla.
Whilst #2 puts up a fight both physically and in reality warping capabilities. Given he has a Archetypal True Form which manifests his main form.
This Archetypal True Form of Godzilla Ultimata is the only one that stands a chance I'd say.
Given he is stated to be outside the laws of physics and in-turn standard Dimensionality (altho String Theory dimensionality is a different story), and is acausal and capable of warping the entire universe and possibly the multiverse by just existing (very lovecraftian for sure).
Ignore Godzilla Ultimata outside his book varient though. His on-screen film varient is so nerfed it's pathetic. 😂
Given ALL we know about Cthulhu IN CANON and not via scaling, Heisei Goji in his burning form during his meltdown would atomize Cthulhu. Beings in the mythos which AREN'T gods were able to force his kind to make peace or sign their own death warrants.
Cthulhu has never once in canon warped reality. Not once. He is able to communicate via telepathy until he's in his tomb under the sea. Then that goes right out. The other caveat is it only works if you're asleep and sensitive to his signals. His regeneration is impressive, but clearly via the boat example he is able to feel pain, and considering the person who struck him could watch in realtime as Cthulhu knit himself back together, it's a slow process at best. Now we're left with size and strength. Size is debatable, as he was able to so quickly snatch up sailors who were standing in front of them before they moved. That's not necessarily due to his alien nature, but rather his actual size. With that out of the way we move to strength. Cthulhu's two feats of strength are pulling himself out of his tomb and creating waves as he swam towards the boat which created the meme, the Alert. The waves themselves weren't enough enough to capsize the ship. Once struck, Cthulhu in the only story we see him was left to wait until his city sank with him again.
Godzilla in Hell one shots him too
@@jraulerson3081 Doesn't really matter anyways if the scaling indicates he is beyond dreamers who can warp reality. 😂
In Lovecraft mythos, The Great Old Ones only tend to warp reality by existing and having to manifest a form from the Void into the Material Reality. Great Old Ones don't choose to warp things. It kinda just falls out, Hence the madness and stuff.
@@citrusreality64 Huh? Ayo hol up, What scaling does Godzilla in Hell have that allows this?
IIRC The best feat he had in there was destroying a planet pocket dimension of sorts.
Him facing the God in the verse he was in there doesn't really scale anywhere unless the god has feats himself. 🤔
When I seen the thumbnail in my recommended feed I already laughed! Great vid!
People bring up that Godzilla in Hell is stronger than Cthulu, but I don't know how much to trust those people. All I hear is "HE'S KILLED LITERAL GODS!?!?!" OK, but MCU Thor is the God of Thunder and got knocked unconscious by a silly little taser.
I haven't even heard of anything that could put Godzilla in Hell at anything near Cthuhlu.
The main question I have is if Chtullu would be able to affect godzilla from the void. I don't think godzilla can somehow reach the void anymore than he could reach the Warp in warhammer 40k, but I don't see how chtullu could do anything to him from over there. Chtullu got scattered t in his physical form, so we know he must follow physical laws that allow his physical form to be affected, even if it doens't affect the boat that scattered him, seeming more like smoke than anything else.. So then he would be vanished back tot he void, like a Great Daemon from 40k, but how would be do anything from over there? I don't know why chtullu would need a physical form if he could just destroy the world all the way from the void, so I personally think neither one can kill the other since Chtullu isn't a being of the physical realm, while godzilla is the height of the physical realm. Of course, godzillas power depdns on version since the most recent one was damaged by a plane with bombs, but even then that would make him comparable to the physical vesion of chtullu.
Of course, I can be convinced otherwise, but I would like to know how chtullu is meant to kill godzilla from the void, and where it says he ca do that, as well as an explanation as to why he needs a physical form if he can do all that, as the chtullu seems more like an abstract idea than an actual being that can be fought, but that also means I don't see how he can dight a walking nuclear reactor such as godzilla.
Aint no way someone made this mashup they 1v1 an animal vs a literally god a concept beyond human comprehension
Cthulhu is terrifying, but at the end of the day he's a telepathic squid with non-functioning wings and one spell we know of. Without powerscaling, he has virtually no feats in the only story he appears. His regeneration allows him to last, but pain definitely can be inflicted, and with enough of it perhaps long enough to atomize him, assuming you can.
Well this aged poorly lol. (Context: Godzilla is gonna fight Cthulhu in a comic exclusive to Comic Con)
And he wins lol
The space between worlds is no place for mortal men.
to answer if any version of godzilla could beat cthulu, maybe. the one with the best shot is probably godzilla from the singular point novel
Heisei Goji at 1200C, the literal world destroying form in that series would atomize the squid. Cthulhu is huge, but fairly frail apart from regeneration.
@@jraulerson3081 You are comparing the radioactive lizard to an incomprehensibly powerful god that's beyond space and time. Pumping up numbers ain't shit compared to something that treats the universe like a tiny sand castle
@@gangzilla5716Leave him be, heisei fanboys are in a different level of ignorance.
Holy mackarel, I can't believe I didn't see this earlier. Okay, so I'll try to make this the last comment I reply to on the subject, though some of the debate has been fun. Cthulhu is vulnerable to conventional means of damage (see the boat incident). He was forced by a boat hitting him with its bowsprit to stop his chase and regenerate his physical body. Now, also consider that in the Dream Cycle series of stories by HPL, Cthulhu NEVER appears. Why? Because he can't. He's trapped in his tomb (the literal slimy stone prison he made) to keep a spell going which allows him and the other Old Ones to continue living while the stars are 'wrong' for them. He only appeared in the Call of Cthulhu because of a freak accident that allowed him a bit of freedom. His feats during that time amount to him pulling his bulk out of his prison, swiping and picking up some sailors before they could turn away and swimming after a boat, his strokes creating waves as he went. His telepathy (the most powerful aspect of him) only functions on those who are asleep and only when they're sensitive to his mental energies. Even in the events of the Call of Cthulhu, there were people wholly unaffected in their dreams. That was when he was FREE. His wings also don't function in a way that really benefits him unless he's going from one planet to another and that would require some unspecified spell or the intervention of Yog Sothoth (the literal gate between worlds).@@IAMINSIDEYOURWALLS604 I am not really pulling this out of my ass. You have to understand that Cthulhu, the point of him is that he's terrifying, almost unthinkably so to some people, but he's little more than a telepathic giant with regenerative capabilities. He's the TIP of the iceberg into another dimension of horror.
@@gangzilla5716 how is he above space and time though? The most he did in Hp lovecraft's og story was surviving a ship and killed some people
Godzilla's only chance is, if in the middle of their fight, Cthulhu gets 'eepy and takes a nap.
Ah yes finally after a long day some REAL culture.
This is like asking if the strongest ant on earth could defeat the sun.
Depends on the version of Godzilla like you said, Like the monsterverse Godzilla or Shin Godzilla gets one shot but Heisei Godzilla or Godzilla Hell scale to infinite 6D so idk.
I called this guy in
6-D ?. Cthulhu and Outer Gods are Beyond infinite higher dimension
Once again Godzilla GiH only preformed his god killing feat with the power of said God. It was called “God’s blessing” and currently Godzilla has it tightly locked within himself. These are all author statements. So you should specify the amp if you’re scaling him beyond 4D.
Godzilla in hell:🗿🔥🔥🗿🥂
[he still beats every other Godzilla]
Bevor you say anything because he beat GOD
He literally bends reality every time he steps
@@Dr_talala That Isn't That Impressive, He is 7D at Best
It would be a close fight tho I think Godzilla in hell would win that’s just my opinion
But I still love how you say that 7d isn’t impressive lol
@@Dr_talalaYes, Compare 7D To A High-Outerversal (Low Balled) character, 7D Isn't That Impressive
How did a boat kill Cthulus physical manifestation? Did it stick him and he bled out all his human blood?
Does he stop exsisting outside of time when he manifests? Because how does anything, especially a boat, hit him if he is seperate from time?
Can he also just not unmake the boat, or any threat to him?
I have zero context on lovecraft mythos. So this boat meme is both confusing and hilarious at the same time.
Cthulhu wasn't killed. He was damaged, though. He screamed in pain in a "sound the chronicler would not put to paper." He's massive, and proportionally strong, but he's material, albeit able to literally pull himself together "nebulously recombining in its hateful original form". The boat worked because Cthulhu is a big slime and isn't all that resilient when it comes to taking blows. You CAN kill him, though. He's virtually defenseless while he's trapped bodily in his tomb. I think it was Campbell or maybe Bloch sometime later who created a monster ' the secret daughter' of Cthulhu because the writers knew that was a loophole someone could exploit.
The blood thing is also wrong, at least in Cthulhu's case. Blood is just a consequence of his actions and those of his kind. They're ultimate hedonists, violence very much included. They would literally have no source of blood until they arrived on earth. He and the rest of the Old Ones used Yog-Sothoth as a gate between worlds and "brought their cities with them", meaning they pulled a 40k marine drop on the planet, or something similar to that. Cthulhu CAN fly, but his wings are useless on earth. The Elder Things doomed themselves because they lost that ability, both Cthulhu and the Elder things only able to traverse space via the winds of the ather.
@@jraulerson3081 No. No material thing could ever hope to kill Cthulhu. All that can be done is to return Cthulhu to the Void.
The void is not a thing with regards to Cthulhu. Cthulhu is a mortal being insofar as he can be destroyed. If you need evidence of that, consider why his job is to maintain a spell that keeps him and the Old Ones alive. He's laying in his tomb, in the dark...maintaining a spell so that while the stars are 'wrong' (normal for us), he and his ilk do not DIE. Cthulhu is a large alien with a power the Old Ones found useful, and so they made him an honorary Old One. He's not anywhere near on the level of the rest, his physical nature very much included.@@liselottehildegarde5367
Cthulu, the god beyond time and space
Godzilla Ultima: hold my Jar of Red Dust
Doesn't the true form reside within the archetype? (I haven't seen the show)
@@khushanksolanki9190 His true form is only revealed in the novelisation for the anime, it reveals that his true form resides in countless unreachable higher dimensions. The Archatypes are nothing but mere creations of his, the other Kaiju's have their own true form which exists in the dimension Ultima resides on. If I remember correctly Ultima absorbed his entire plain of existence, the other Kaiju's true forms used to be their own being but Ultima absorbed them or something and now they are a part of him.
Ultima also dreams of existence itself and sees everything as an infinite hierarchy of dreams one succeeding one another. When one dream (existence) ends another dream (existence) begins. He is compared to a "tree" or a big stream that absorbs other big streams.
He is a very weird mix of Azatoth and Yog-sototh.
Thought I'd just Mention that there's a version of godzilla that has killed both satan and god And some weird eldritch horror
i feel like they nerfed God
Mythology Cthulhu:🗿🍷
"Combine all godzillas-" nonono, I don't care about Cthulhu creaming Zilla after THAT statement was made, we need a video about the Omni-Zilla. All the power sets, max size, and then see how far it gets going up against heavy hitters across the multiverse. (if allowed it's the same Omni-Godzilla running a gauntlet so that Shin's power set at least has a chance to improve itself against tougher and tougher enemies.)
Also, the only Godzilla that makes it even close to doing anything to Cthulhu is Shin with adaptability.. and even then, the adaptability likely cannot compensate for Time related fuckary.
Conclusion: Cthulhu wins, absent difficulty.
Godzilla: Meets Cthulhu
15 seconds later: "Godzilla was sent to Ocram's house by Phantasmal Sphere"
There is only one version of Godzilla that actually has the potential to match other gods like cthulu, But it ironically is from a live-action version. the shin gojira from the original film storyboard concept that could have continued to evolve forever and grow in power. If given enough time, maybe that one would have a chance, but only "maybe" and only if they could evolve to have the same kinds of powers as other gods. The reason most people (you included literary who too it seems) don't know about that one sadly isn't because it's kind of niche nerdy tertiary knowledge from DVD extras and such.
or maybe godzilla in hell since he literally killed god
@@1qeety3What does Killing a God Mean? A God That scales to planet Level And A God That Scales To Outerversal are not the same
@@mrsketchysketch680 yes but god in most religions like Islam or Christianity is said to be stronger than all beings infinitely
@@mrsketchysketch680 and btw im only saying gih is the most likely to win, I still think cthulhu would beat him
@@1qeety3 Except Cthlhu creatures beyond the gate are not able to be physically harmed by anything, but less a radioactive lizard
It depends witch Godzilla it is
Cthulhu caused earthquakes, nightmares, and spikes of insanity across the entire planet when some Norwegians accidentally woke him up from a nap. And he wasn't even trying -- tectonic and psychological disturbances were just the side effect of him waking up before his alarm clock.
Godzilla has to actually make landfall, stomp around, and shoot lasers and shit to match the level of destruction Cthulhu can cause by just going for a leisurely stroll to stretch his legs.
If humans are an ant colony, Godzilla is like a dog peeing on the hill or digging it up.
Cthulhu is industrial construction equipment paving over the hill and the entire surrounding area to make a parking lot for an airport.
Cthulhu didn't cause any earthquake. It was a freak of nature, albeit a very brief one. The time allowed Cthulhu by happenstance to telepathically connect with humans (something he hadn't been able to since man's earliest days, and even then, he was trapped in his tomb), hence the nightmares. Even with his widespread telepathy, he couldn't affect everyone, just a select few, and only when they were asleep. It's the only way he and the Old Ones can truly communicate with "the fleshy minds of mammals". The spikes of insanity were because his signals reached those who were imaginative or students of the occult. Remember that his city sank, trapping him at the end of the story. That wasn't his doing, either.
@@jraulerson3081 One of my major questions, which I hope you can answer, is how chtullu is meant to kill Godzilla. I know godzilla is less a big lizard and more a walking nuclear reactor, but that seems more than enough to kill chtullus physical form. Sure, I know that Chtullu is from the Void and therefore unable to be truly vanished by physical attacks anymore than a Daemon from warhammer 40k, but considering that chtullu's physical form was destroyed by a boat, and vanished back to the void, I don't see how godzilla couldn't do that, unless we're going by his very weakest versions. I also don't see how godzilla could acess the boat, but if chtullu can instantly destroy godzilla from the void, I don't see why he would need an actual physical form, so I don't see how this fight ends as anything other than a stalemate.
You seem like you've actually read the source material, so I just wanted to ask about that since it's the main thing in the video that doesn't strike me as making any sense, with the author only talking about feats of how chtullu is fromt he void and how chtullu mad worshippers describe him as being beyond time and space.
@ChupacabraRex Physically, Cthulhu couldn't. Cthulhu really is a giant jelly monster. Lethal to humans and beings smaller than himself as well as those given to artistic pursuits , theology, or study of the occult. The latter three are the only ones who suffered any effect whatsoever while he was briefly freed in their dreams. Cthulhu would be endlessly paralyzed by the pain of Godzilla's strikes, beam, etc. Cthulhu might have magic to counter this, but we have no evidence to that effect. Furthermore it's highly unlikely Cthulhu is used to combating anything on his scale.
@ChupacabraRex Also, as an aside, the 'void' is not something Cthulhu has access to . (The Realm of Ultimate Chaos is what comes to mind, but it can also simply refer to the void of space) As for bodily destruction, I maintain that atomization would work. Cthulhu, his physical body, is vulnerable and as real to him as you or I experience ours. Just because his biology differs doesn't mean he's invincible. Akeley in "The Whisperer In Darkness" killed multiple Mi-Go who aren't of our universe. So too did a rag-tag group of men banish the progeny of Yog Sothoth in "The Dunwich Horror". Depending on the means afforded, such feats can be accomplished. As a final edit, I should mention that Cthulhu's race before R'lyeh (Cthulhu's city) sank, warred with the Elder Things (living, carnivorous starfish vegetables). These Elder Things aren't much taller than a man and brought Cthulhu's kin to a stalemate. Imagine that. Vegetables forced Great Cthulhu's army to halt their war efforts because the Elder Things possessed weapons that could kill them.
If Cthulhu is so powerful then why did he battle the Elder Things and Shoggoths to a stalemate in At the Mountains of Madness?
Godzilla in hell: hello there
He wouldn't Even Be Able To destroy The Physical World
Godzilla in hell: *gets ripped into atoms*
@@Megalon_Man73GiH could probably Extreme diff. Every other Godzilla gets destroyed though
See, boat beats Cthulhu, godzilla beats boat, therefor godzilla is greater than both. My logic is supreme. XD
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Now THIS is a match up...that ends fairly quickly.
You forgot the most important factor: Godzilla's creators have a contract stating that he's not allowed to lose permanently. Unless we can reanimate HPL to sign a similar contract, Godzilla has to win by default
lol Toho solos the verse
Your joking
Right...
@XRaiden1 no, I'm pretty he is telling the truth. It's not uncommon anyways.
if we are talking Godzilla in hell, uhhh... yeah idk. I don't power scale, let's put that under maybe.
5:51 all fun in games till manga heisei goji pulls up
He should more so be the goji in front row in them goggle searches
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My biggest question about this video is this....
If Cthulhu needed a physical body to do anything on Earth in the first place, how could he do anything to anyone from the void? Unless I'm just remembering wrong, Cthulhu doesn't have any power over the Earth from the void (hence why he needed a physical body with blood).
He doesn't need blood. Never has. He wouldn't be able to get it unless he was on earth. He plunged from the stars with his kind and their cities to earth. He does not exist in the void, but rather physically in his tomb in the mentioned city. He has power over dreams and the ability to regenerate as well as preserve the other Old Ones so long as he remains unmoving in that tomb.
@jraulerson3081 you seem to be riding the g octopus a little too much with you replying to everyone
That's my own question. This question is like asking if Godzilla can kill a Greater Deamon from 40k or skynet from terminator. Sure, skynet and a greater demon can't be killed by sheer raw power since theyll just appear again, but like...how are they gonna do something to godzilla from over there? It's a draw if anything.
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Any thoughts?
I love me some Lovecraft, and I love me some Kaiju films. No contest though, Cthulhu obviously. I think most people just think "big green monster in the sea"!
That's because in the legitimate mythos Cthulhu doesn't do much of anything. He has no feats to suggest he can reach the heights of what is said in the video
What cult are you in? :) @@Squeam9750
Thank god someone gets it! He's a prisoner in his city. He's strictly able to preserve the Old Ones UNTIL R'lyeh rises! Even then, he's not especially durable.@@Squeam9750
He is, though. It's not THAT simple, obviously, but we know he 1. came from the stars 2. warred with the Elder things, resulting in a treaty 3. telepathically communicated with humanity while in his tomb during the period R'lyeh wasn't yet sunk, creating the cult on earth, but after the sinking he couldn't do it anymore. 4. possesses undefined magic but uses some of it to 'preserve' the Old Ones. 5. Upon R'lyeh being brought back to the surface he could communicate again, but only with the 'sensitive' of humanity 6. was able to squeeze his gelatinous body through the door of his tomb and swipe up some sailors before they could run after accidentally freeing him 7. was able to create waves of unspecified size as he swam after the boat, the 'Alert' 8. Screamed in pain from being struck by the bowsprit of the boat, forcing him to stop and regenerate and 9. was forced back into his tomb when the stars blipped back into the 'wrong' positions shortly after the chase of the Alert.
Sounds like copium overdose from the boat victim.
This video did NOT age well LMAO
Why?
@@mrsketchysketch680 This is why:
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@@Godzilla_Beast_of_Revelation non canon
@@mrsketchysketch680no ome cares
@@akiradkcn you did, you sigma.
This has gotta be the easiest stomp ive seen in a while
If we're taking this as a composite Godzilla things would be a fair amount closer I think. He's obliterated things larger than him by numerous times, like Magita and Void Ghidorah. He's beaten beings that have power over space and time, see Void Ghidorah again (Though this was very much a banishing to the void scenario. But its obvious Cthulu can't just do whatever to the world from there or he'd have already won everything ever.) Godzilla has has refused the influence of and destroyed literal Gods as well. (1v12'd the Olympian Gods and won, walked into and back out of Hell where he destroyed Satan and even effectively told the powers of Heaven to piss off when they came to try and recruit him) I guess the point is that Godzilla is like Superman. He's exactly as strong as the setting he's in needs him to be. So the fun thought of Godzilla vs Cthulu is perfectly valid. And it does make for a badass image. Could every version of big G beat Cthulu? Of course not. But his strongest forms could at the very least shove his ass back into the void.
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comp godzilla overrated bruh
At least he’s giving feats of a godzilla instead of just saying “he has a laser”
@@SpinoSundayCthulhu: *laughs in triple phantasmal deathray*
@@WomanSlayer69420 *GODZILLA IN HELL LAUGHING AT CHUTLHU AFTER TELEPORTING INTO HIS VOID,WITH ALL OF THE OTHER GODZILAS WITH HIM*
@@SpinoSunday *Godzilla in Hell was eviscerated by phantasmal sphere... along with all the other godzillas because they are too fat to dodge.*
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I think a better question is “can Galactus beat Cthulhu?”
Yes. Cthulhu is a petty sorcerer compared to Galactus.
Galactus can literally just pull out his device and wipe Cthulhu from existence, it’s literally that simple :/, may sound cool but once you dig deeper about the character, it’s nothing like you expected
Underrated match up: Cthulhu (Lovecraft) vs Unicron (IDW Tranformers)
If they both start in the void , yes.
composite godzilla does go brrrr tho
so does composite cthulhu.
we can both play that game 🤷♂
Stop misinforming people about this character. Cthulhu in the only story we actually see him possesses a handful of powers at best. He can fly through the aether of space, he can use unspecified magic, he can regenerate and telepathically communicate with the sensitive persons on our planet, and that ends the moment he's trapped in his tomb again. Cthulhu is not present in the realm of dreams because he's forced to be conscious while maintaining the one spell we know he has, that which preserves him and the Old Ones. He's not godlike in power beyond mortal beings, and even then, the Elder Things brought his kind to a standstill, a race which utilized technology. @@literarywho
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brother stop.
you are gonna overdose on copium.
i see you frantically replying to every comment.
take a break. the lizard lost. just accept it.
I don't care who wins, to be perfectly honest. I love the presentation of your videos, I just wish they were factually correct. Seriously, this is really entertaining, but don't present falsehoods as truth, please.@@literarywho
@@literarywho if we do take composite of both character then godzilla might actually take the dub but it does require a chain of scaling. Godzilla beat superman and the same superman can be compare to cas and true form darkside who are just on a whole another level of power from chulthu but thats just my take. P.s don't attack anyone like the last guy be respectful
Hail the high priest of the great old ones.
I love the big NO in the thumbnail made me laugh before I even watched
You should try Godzilla Ultima Final Form or Godzilla In Hell VS Cthulhu because those two godzillas are the strongest godzillas that exist right now. it should still be a pretty entertaining fight.
Now I'm curious.... Who would actually win
Goku with heart virus vs Deku
i mean... i don't know anything about my moe academia but there's no way deku cannot beat goku with the heart virus.
farmer with a shotgun would wreck sick goku.
Goku in a wheelchair could probably beat Deku
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"Goku in a wheelchair"
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i can't.
that's good stuff! thanks for the laugh.
Godzilla vs Cthulhu is infinitely closer than Goku with a hear virus vs Deku
Goku fought Android 19 with the heart virus, so yes, goku would win. Please correct me if I'm wrong tho.
Cthulhu: I'm four stacks of infinities ahead from you
"No live action version can beat cthulhu"
shin godzilla: *laughs in becoming actually azathoth*
pure fanfiction sry.
Wasn't he just going to become the Universe, that still wouldn't put him anymore near Azathoth power.
Heisei Goji at 1200C melts Cthulhu. Game over. He's a frail being that only serves to 1. spread the religion of the Old ones and 2. maintain a spell that keeps them from dying whilethe stars basically don't permit the Old Ones to live.
@@jraulerson3081 false First, heisei is hotter than 1200 C. Secondly, take a look at the other videos about Cthulu and the other creatures from Lovekraft's mythos. You can see that your answer doesn't make any sense
Yeah, I have. I also own the books. They're here next to me. Cthulhu is vulnerable. The boat damaged him because he's physically vulnerable. He's strong, but only due to his sheer size. He can regenerate, but burning Goji would probably ensure at meltdown Cthulhu wouldn't get the chance. They literally invented a means of ensuring Cthulhu wouldn't die, a character for that specific purpose because HPL all but plainly stated he could be killed. I tried not to call out the creator here directly because the videos are entertaining, but in the case of Cthulhu, these statements are factually wrong.
It's true that basically, cthulhu beats godzilla easily but speaking of G.I.H. (Godzilla in Hell), that will be another story.
Godzilla hell > Cthulhu
Cthulhu > (the whole version of godzilla)
G.I.H is getting clapped
Which Godzilla incarnation are you referring to? Cuz there are incarnations that can defeat him.
Godzilla Ultima’s true form and Godzilla In Hell. Official incarnation.
Neither of those forms can beat cthulu. Keep crying meat riding Godzilla fan
I like how the thumbnail literally gives us the answer😂
“Um, uh, Cthulhu is a god, Godzilla is a lizard hue hue hue”
-People who know nothing about the Japanese Shinto-Buddhist spiritual framework Godzilla is inherently placed in
Godzilla is a wrathful god. He’s always been a wrathful god.
Things aren’t incomprehensible because they’re great in Lovecraft’s works, they’re incomprehensible because Lovecraft personally was feeble minded and couldn’t comprehend shit. He wrote about the eldritch horrors of air conditioners.
Cthulhu can dick around “outside the universe” (he’s not an outer god, he’s an elder god, and essentially a priest, so I don’t know why you think he is) and be randomly scales to vague nonsense all he wants, but all he can manage on Earth is to make a body that got killed by a boat. I don’t mean a warship, or a battleship, I mean a wooden boat. That’s not gonna beat Godzilla, any version of Godzilla.
The idea that Cthulhu can just do whatever he wants from the void is ridiculous because it implies that the victory over Cthulhu wasn’t a victory at all and that he’s just as powerful with or without a physical presence. That’s nonsensical, it’s the whole point of him appearing.
You don't even need that. I've been telling people this all day. Cthulhu has size, he has regeneration, UNSPECIFIED magic aside from the ONE he uses to preserve the bodies of himself and the Old Ones and telepathy in DREAMS. That's it. That's the extent of his powerset. The "miles high" thing is more poetic than anything, though I prefer the imagery.
Even if big lizard was a wrathful god, in the universe of Lovecraft the Earth gods are completely fodder to the likes of Cthulhu.
Godzilla could be the most powerful deity in the Japanese Shinto-Buddhist spiritual framework, and still be just an ant to squid boi.
@@RyoKasai25 Aren't the old ones also worshipped on earth though?
Godzilla has never been a god though. Not saying that I agree with the video, but the only mention of him being remotly as a deity is his name coming from an odo island myth.
I don't know how much Shintoism and Buddhism influenced godzilla, although I would love to learn about that. But at most, it's mainly symbolic. We know for sure in universe that godzilla is a prehistoric reptile mutated by radiations.
2:07 who’s gonna tell him ?
I haven't watched it yet but theres literally no way godzilla can beat my boy cthullu
Edit: the line about kings and gods goes hard af
Cthulhu in the actual source material is basically a regenerating slime that can influence dreams. That's it. That's all the powers and feats he has in canon.
To be fair, Godzillas strongest feat EVER is soloing the entire army of heaven AND hell at the same time and this fight would come down to a physical brawl not existential one
I don't recall Godzilla being taken out of commission by a Victorian era boat
Monster hunter Godzilla destroys Cthulhu, big lizard, WITH A SWORD!
Maybe? You'd have to atomize Cthulhu (which most Goji's can). A sword would definitely paralyze the Priest with pain and force him to regenerate in place if you cut him in half, for example.
@@jraulerson3081 oh, I was just joking haha, I just really like MH
Godzilla outscales and neg diffs
I may be a Godzilla fan but I know Godzilla stands no chance
Godzilla in hell can
No
Godzilla: nah i'd atomic breath
Cuthulu: I WILL MAKE YOU CRAZY!!!!!
Godzilla: boat yeet
Cuthulu: NOOOOO MY KRYPTONITE.
Really happy the Apolllon De Moura song was used in this video
Godzilla in Hall be like:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love your videos I especially love the videos about different pantheons and how powerful the gods are.Can you make more of those.
Godzilla in hell finna transcend Cthulhu in no time so much so that Cthulhu wouldn't be able to do anythin' .
MV Godzilla: I can beat anything!
Cthulhu: *Snaps his fingers* (proceeds to watch Godzilla unwillingly gouge his own eyes out before slicing his belly open and dying)
this is prime "I didn't think i'd have to say this"
So you are telling me that our slumbering Sea Octopus measures over 10k feet tall? ....well, we are doomed.
Man i love these videos