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Bloodborne vs. Dark Souls 3
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2016
- To round out the Souls franchise, let's compare the two newest games: Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3! what's new, what's changed, and what makes us want to die because we can't get gud enough? Let's find out! SPOILER WARNING BTW.
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"Bloodborne ditched the concept of magic altogether in exchange for gunplay."
*_Laughs_* *_in_* *_99_* *_Arcane._*
Nice.
This is called murder
Lol arcane is god
Yes until you see the Satan of a man using arcane bloodtinge build
Arcane and Bloodtinge
"The whole game is very dark" ...it takes place at night.
Alex Kerley and during the dark depressing Victorian era lol
Knowing why it’s dark might help, but the critique remains. If you don’t like constant dark, then you will have an issue
You can just adjust tv brightness and everything is cool
after beating vicar Emilia
@@landrysaathoff2418 It's the night of the hunt, almost every npc in the beginning area references that lol.
Bloodborne = masterpiece
Dark souls 3 = masterpiece
Why not just own and love both
Bloodborne is better
@@CrowofYharnam true
@@cpn0415 in your profile picture who's that ? Why it's famous
@@CrowofYharnam Than explain why?
If only your comment had more likes
In Bloodborne I'm the parry god
In Dark Souls 3 I'm the parry scrub
Same
So damn true😂 me as well
In Bloodborne I only consistently and continuously used parry in the fight with Gehrman, I was more of a dodge master
I’m good at parrying in both. The only time in Dark Souls I cannot parry is when I am in PvP. Usually in Dark Souls though, I can parry just about any enemy that’s allowed to be parried.
@@fillipitibell4646 Damn bro, you gonna flex the screen right off my laptop with that much flexing.
I got Bloodborne for free this week, and just caught Dark Souls 3 Deluxe Edition on sale for $25 on PSN this morning. I'll see you guys some time in 2020.
Update 4/22/20: Never finished either game, made it quite a ways into Bloodborne before I moved on to something else. Appreciate all the likes, had no idea until recently that this comment was in any way popular, lol.
trza49er so? How are they? Having fun?
Haven't started DS3 yet but Bloodborne is great, although I still pretty much suck and haven't progressed far at all. The combat is fun and challenging but so far hasn't felt cheap when I die, which happens a lot.
The frame rates are a tad disappointing, if I had to nitpick. Would be nice to have a 60FPS mode on the Pro, but not the end of the world by any means.
trza49er great man, nice to hear someone having fun in these games
trza49er did you beat it yet?
trza49er yea same i got bloodborne for free cus of ps plus on my ps4 pro and now lvl 174
I love Dark Souls 3, but Bloodborne will always be my favorite
agreed!
double agreed!
Triple agreed
quadruple agreed!
quintuple agreed!
“Throughout the whole game, it only takes place in this Victorian-like city.” What, so you never discovered the hunters nightmare, nightmare frontier, nightmare of mensis, forbidden woods, byrgenwerth, or the lecture building? Wow.
Don’t forget cainhurst castle
Couldn’t forget that.ولد الورغي
Also, he says shields are useless. They’re good against gun-shots. Boi.
question should be: so you never discovered 70% of the game?
May the Fuhrer of Understanding Guide Us yep.
"Bloodborne ditched the concept of magic all together in exchange with gun play" did u even play the game?
That's what I was thinking
Bro it has like less than 10 Spells, including DLC. There are more pure Magic projectiles alone in DS1 than there are spells in BB entirely. If you include Sorcery, Pyromancy, Miracles and Dark, there has to be at least 100 Spells in DS1 and a huge variety in how you build. I love BB but he is absolutely right in saying it feels secondary. If you run a Bloodtinge build, you really only get 1 Spell, and 2 good RH weapons, 1 of which is STR and the other is SKL. The bow is cool too. I usually run a Quality/ARC build but even then the only spells I use are Blacksky Eye to pick people off and Executioner's Glove for actual DMG up close. The most powerful Spell, A Call Beyond, rarely hits how it's supposed to. Meanwhile, in DS1, you can run a MLGS build, a CMW build with a variety of RH weapons, a pure ranged Sorcery build, etc, and that's just one of your magic types.
I cAnT BlOcK REEEEEE
Sean Cone it didn’t ditch magic though i have an OP af arcane player
@@Jordan-up6fy my ARC/quality build is my most OP character too. My HMLS does disgusting damage and I use the Executioners Glove to great effect. But it still is NOTHING compared to my Sorcery build on DS3 as far as combining damage with versatility of options. Using 1-2 spells gets old, so I end up just smashing through enemies with the sword.
1. BB
2. Demon Souls
3. DS
4. DS3
I'm not even gonna list 2.
Hey man, it's my couch!
+Travis Law (TheLawModzz) nostalgia is not an argument, besides blood borne is the hardest of the games.
***** the only part of blood borne I would remotely consider artificial difficulty is the frenzy mechanic. Blood borne has the best weapons, the most exciting combat, and the best story. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not good. You become a "squid" in the alternative ending because you killed the moon presence and ascended your humanity into godhood, you've become an old one.
***** Dude, first of all, those games were instantly easy for me because of shields, that's why I liked Bloodborne, and go ahead and mention Ludwig. Also going through the defiled chalice reminded me of the Pure Black mode in DeS, which made me happy, but also made me happier because of the new combat system, yes it made killing things swifter, but that's the point of being a badass hunter. Also, you turned into a squid because "SPOILER ALERT" After killing the Moon Presence you decided to ascend into a greatone which is known as a cosmic being, and in order to undo the curse of the greatone which turned everyone mad, you turned in to one by obtaining the insight of the Moon Presence.
+Travis Law (TheLawModzz) psn id?
I ended up buying Bloodborne and honestly it might already be one of my favorite all-time games. Just like Dark Souls 1 did before, it's just got so much different and going "right" for it. And it's one of those games you think about when you're not playing it. Like at work, now.
DelDuio After playing Dark souls 3 for about 500 hours. Bloodbornes weapons and story pve is very very VERY refreshing. Its just plain better.
DelDuio but seriously dark souls 1 will never be forgotten its the best souls game
DelDuio I love Dark Souls and I didn't like Bloodborne, yes, I get past through Cleric Beast, Father Gascoine and Blood Thirsty Beast, but didn't enjoy it anymore after that.
Victor Silva because right after that is the Forrest and then the real game begins as the beasts aren’t the only monsters in these parts, once you reach the edge of the woods the lovecraftian freaks of bergenwerth are awaiting the good hunter
DelDuio hahhaha I'm relieved to hear that I'm not the only one that thinks alot about it while not playing it.
“Bloodborne ditched the magic for gunplay”
Arcane builds: -_-
I mean you can summon a goddamn tentacle to blast people for Christ’s sake!
Yes, and it’s fucking awesome. Thanks
I just realized that the gane mechanic of regaining HP when you hit an enemy back it actually fits within the story of bloodborne. The blood is supposed to cure any illness, so when you hit an enemy, (which has had some of the ancient blood) it splatters blood on you (possibly on your face and mouth) and it "cures" you a bit.
The blood splater on your open wounds. That's why you can only regain health a short time after getting hit, before your wounds heal.
@@user-pc3nc3hg6w This is so visceral and badass.
I like to believe that its because the blood heals as it entero your wounds, and being more and more agressive for the blood makes you "blood thirsty" for a while and eventually "blood drunk". I think it fits in the hunter's nightmare lore, because you can also heal as you keep slashing through an enemy thats dead and falling for a brief time, making hunters eventually losing themselves in the hunt and the blood.
I love Bloodborne because I love the 1800's time environment.
Bloodborne's art style is more late 1600's early - mid 1700's. It isn't Victorian as most people think. That's considered to be the gothic period which you can notice in the clothing style and pistol design in particular.
No way. Its 1800s for sure. Have you seen these top hats?
Haha. Yeah mate I'll give you that one! There's certainly a lot of 1800's in there too I guess! It's an amazing gothic horror experience anyway!
Man, 19th century is 1800s ;d
I meant gothic architecture. Much of Yharnam is ripped straight out of Oxford University. It is true that much of it is Victorian inspired but then you also have the more baroque style seen in Cainhurst etc
Bloodborne changed my life. It's my favorite game of all time.
bloodornre its really good game but i think its the eaziest of all series
+Χρονης ολυμπιακος I thought dark souls 2 was a lot easier, even demon souls if u played a sorcerer...filthy casuals man they 1 shot flamelurker without any trouble at all, but yeh if u don't play a sorcerer than it is a lot harder than bloodborne
yes you have right ,but when I right that dark souls it is harder from bloodorne i mean not only bossfight but th whole world of souls such as enviroment desigh.Personally, i haven't take the feeling of every time enter in tomb of giants or blightown scares my heart...
i found it to be the exact opposite way around, where bloodborne was the hardest,because they stripped you of your shield, took away the regenerating health vial, had it so you have to do a full charge attack to get a backstab, made the attacks of enemies much faster, more damaging, and with less breaks, and compared to ds3 had much shorter s on roll.
also they didnt have any bosses like the deacons, or many staggerable ones like the abyss watchers.
+Palo Tove i have finished bloodorne in ng+8 including dlc and chalices dungeons and i agree that bloodorne has some hard and annoying bosses but i think that souls games continiue are more hard and punishing for me
I love how he complains about BB being hard and “unfair” and complaining about how different it is from DS lol that’s the point and its not unfair you just have to figure out a bosses moves
He basically just said that its hard to play the game. Like you have to learn a bosses moves in every game that has bosses.
Imdrowsy lol yah I know but he was saying like it was a bad thing it makes the game so rewarding
This video makes me think he hasn’t gotten past Gascoigne.
I find Dark Souls 3 much harder than bloodborne. Levels and Bosses. On the same day I 1-shotted Vicar Amelia in NG+ , Dragonslayer Armor kicked my ass 20+ times before I got him.
@@airdev3386 That's weird because I find BB much harder. It took me like 20 tries to beat Amelia but DS3 hasn't had me die more than a few times to a boss.
"Bloodborne has no magic" *laughs in arcane*
Imagine him saying bloodborne has no magic hahahaah
William Barefield Eh, I mean, compared to the souls games, it definitely doesn’t. I love BB, but yeah, the amount of Arcane magic, ain’t really much. Souls games definitely have more magic than BB...
"Bloodborne has no magic" *laughs in arcane/skill build*
The Ancestor Because I am too lazy to watch the entire video, I am gonna say that maybe he didn’t completely neglect it. He’s just saying, compared to Dark Souls it has barely any. Idk.
@@fillipitibell4646 nah fuck this dude
Personally, Bloodborne is my favorite PVE experience in the series.
+The Dark Mandate Duuude DS3 was seriously lacking in the boss quality section. Like damm.
+The Dark Mandate Yeah in Bloodborne even though the bell system was trash at least it allowed even not-as-good players to deal with ganks
You had so much counters for things in that game available to you: Parrying heals, stunning at will, evading gankers easily, pulling off menacing combos to combat the clueless gankers that walk up to you thinking they're tough shit and more
In DS3 it's not the same case
You invade like 4 people and all odds are immediately against you
Unless you're good at parrying it's hopeless
All you can do is just try to dispatch a phantom or the host but unless you're a really smart person you'll most of the time end up hiding behind enemies which the host can turn on you
Healing isn't a problem for the gankers as once they've killed you they just receive more charges
Healing is super fast with nothing to punish it unless you keep breathing down the person's neck
All in all I just wish they hadn't neglected the PvP of Bloodborne to the point of it being super basic with covenants that are worthless
Game would've been superb for PvP
for me too, what a great game!
I really liked the pve but one thing that ruined it was the lack of weapons, even in the dlc you have to be a high level to stand a chance
gravendanger Didn't mind lack of weapons but lack of attire was a bummer
Playing bloodborne cost me almost 600$ CAD, since I bought a ps4 only for this game. And I dont regret one cent of it. Bloodborne is a masterpiece. It is a least on par with dark souls if not better.
comeing from an all around gamer.. there is some really good games on the ps4 now.
thetizzle Yeah, since I already bought a ps4, i went ahead and bought The Last of Us remaster, which happen to be very good. And I bought some other game that are just on console. I always been a pc gamer so i was not thinking about these games, but now I'm very happy I get to try them.
Tadlada pate same shit
Tadlada pate The Last of Us became the greatest game I have ever played. Never thought I would put another game over the original Silent Hill games (1-3) but it's right there with them.
and no, I don't consider tlou "survival horror" but its a masterpiece. The telltale TWD series is great too, first season hit my ass hard. But I believe that's on PC also.
“The whole game is very dark”
It’s literally an horror game set at night
Also, torches
Also also, lantern
Also also also, game brightness
Also also also also, the fucking massive moon that you could be forgiven for mistaking it with the fucking sun because of how bright it is
@@JadenSanchez6622 it's an rpg with a lot of horror elements. So can be considered a horror game, just not in the classical sense like survival horror games
@@JadenSanchez6622 maybe not in the traditional sense that you see horror games in, but I 100% think that they definitely went for a horror theme. the game has you using lanterns and torches, the game has enemies that are definitely designed to be unsettling and even scary at times (blue eyed mother fucking werewolves), there's unsettling music, unsettling story aspects, jump scare moments even, and I mean, just look at it. its eldritch lovecraftian sorry elements and themes alone, in my opinion, give this a horror aspect.
@Caiden Annetts ask your sister lmao
"Now in dark souls three we have a NEW blue bar for magic."
*Laughs in demon souls*
Approved pfp.
@@hammerite6418 only in the way magic is handled , literallly everything else is better in ds1
Dark Souls 3 is good, but Bloodborne is king.
gtfo
is he not aloud to have an opinion???
stfu you virgin
+Estus Chugger lol
+Estus Chugger stay 12
Bloodborne isn’t more limited in types of weapons you can use. Every weapon is highly different, they’re basically all their own weapon type. Just because ds3 has more weapons overall doesn’t mean it has more variety when most weapons have 5 or 6 or more weapons that are basically the exact same thing with a new skin doesn’t mean it has more variety.
You also don’t give bloodborne enough credit with level types. It doesn’t just have cityscapes it has lakeside colleges, dark swampy forests, horrible nightmarish realms, snowy castles, the insides of lecture halls. That’s just the main game when you add the dlc there’s a lot more.
Ethan Hudson they have weopon arts tho and alot of bloodbornes weopons are reskins
Nerd pepe the only one I would really call a reskin is the saw spear and cleaver. The kirkhammer and Ludwig’s greatsword all play differently
Ethan Hudson the folks here saying such kinda things like most of bloodborne weapons are reskins, bloodborne has no memorable area, bloodborne has no this and that.. Damn these guys either haven't played bloodborne or are full of jealousy and hatred or are total retarded fools to make such claims. Even the damn video maker sucked at bloodborne and in his every statement his idiocy and ignorance about bloodborne is reflected.
Yeah, I felt he didn't make much of a good argument in those criticisms as they're rendered null by anyone who's explored the whole game.
Nerd pepe not at all
It feels like he didn't even finished bloodborne
WORD. What he’s complaining about seems like whining.
@@coldblizzard5880 he died to the one reborn lmfao
Agreed
nope bloodborne just sucks
@@fineapplejuice0622 come on bro give it another chance, just because you couldn't beat the first boss doesnt mean it sucks.
“I felt like the bosses at the end were easier then the ones at the end”
laughs in dlc (except the failures)
"this game has guns" *laughs in two handed Hunter axe*
@@buckspoppy9810 laughs in blade of mercy r1 spam
Failures are there to give you a tutorial after that Maria is gonna show you how shitty you are while looking cool asf
Kos and Maria were easier for me than Laurence and Ludwig. Maybe because I'm 150 against Kos and Maria but its easier to read them for me. If it is non DLC, Mergo is easy than most beast type bosses (I suck at them.) For Micolash, the place is hard. I hate Mensis. Same like Kos, the place is harder than the boss (Freakin Shark Giants.)
@@AIIXIII0 same here. Although it was Maria, Laurence, and fishing hamlet that gave me trouble. I was extremely over leveled when facing Ludwig (120) and I was able to tank his long range 1 shot attack (got lucky there). Cannot tell you how many times I died to Laurence or Maria, and I still haven't gotten to Kos yet
Poor Demons Souls always gets ignored
Demon's Souls was the Dark Souls beta. You don't hear people talk about betas, just the refined and finished product.
Scuba Steve I hear demon souls has some of the toughest bosses out there. First game I played in the series. Couldn't even get past the first level and I played 30+ hours.
Flight Never played Demon's Souls, but most people I've talked to say it was easier than Dark Souls and Bloodborne, but harder than Dark Souls 2 and 3.
Nothing is easier than DS2 & BB
If you say so. Most people who have played multiple games seem to say that DS and BB are nearly equal, with DS maybe being a bit harder, DeS being cheap rather than legitimately hard, and DS2 and 3 being almost disappointingly easy. I tend to agree.
Clicked on video for comparison. Got a video just on dark souls 3
Your forgot the segments with DS1 and 2. Which makes it even.
@Smallss34 And you sound like an angry fanboy.
@Ben Dover heyy lol
Ben Dover In what way is he being unfair? He literally went too easy on Bloodborne if you ask me. There‘s actually a lot more to criticize. And this comes from a person who got into the Souls series through Bloodborne. Bloodborne may be literally Dark Souls + Coolnes Factor times ten, the combat is better, the designs of pretty much everything are better, the setting is better etc. The bosses? The bosses are plain and simply terrible in comparison to the Souls games especially DS3. The boss fights don‘t feel monumental at all, the first half is just different werewolf variations that try to outscream each other and will most likely oneshot you because of one mistake in their second phase. I shouldn‘t even mention Rom I think. The worst boss in DS3 has more depth and interesting gameplay variation than some of BB‘s best bosses. Bloodborne has some typical RPG elements which simply don‘t fit into a From game at all, touching a head and being told parts of the story through a flashback? Just like in DS2 with the memories, like that‘s the least From Soft thing ever. Interacting with the story indirectly is what makes From games so amazing. The idiotic Lamp system speaks for itself, paired with the fact that YOU HAVE TO farm in the game to even play it makes for an even worse experience. The lores of these games don‘t even deserve to be compared, Frampt being shocked about the fact that the „apparent chosen undead“ managed to retrieve the Lordvessel speaks more than yet another document talking about how Ludwig styled his hair and what kind of food he preferred. (Obvious hyperbole don‘t take it too seriously). Bloodborne is amazing, I love it of course, it‘s better than almost all the games I‘ve ever played, but both Dark Souls games have way more heart than Bloodborne, which feels like it intentionally did everything that Demon Souls did wrong, simply for the fact to be as different as possible from Dark Souls.
Dude straight up ignored me
Bloodborne changed my gamer life. I was done with gaming till i saw some footage of bloodborne when it was out and instantly i want amazed and bought a ps4 just to play it. It light the inner fire in me. It was a struggle at first to get use to but didn't give up and got better and love the shit out of it. Dark Souls is close behind but bloodborne was special. Something about it made me feel like no other game before. Platinum and 100% the game with dlc and will always hold a special place in my heart. Now i just need a bb2 and my life can be complete
It lit the inner “Bonfire..?”
*Jk Bloodborne is better than Dark Souls any day*
same here stoped playing games for 10 years then i saw bloodborne and bought a ps4 and i have like 20 games already lol
gAmEr LiFe
The fighting mechanics are so much better and fun in Bloodborne
YES
Nah
its more fun but its more limited compared to ds3 imo
Nah
True, but for me Sekiro has better fight system
I liked Bloodborne more.. a lot more depressing and violent
I wouldn't say more violent, but depressing yeah
Atleast more bloody :D
***** I guess you are right, but the story in dark souls is more depressing i think, because even if you link the fire the age of darkness is coming and everyone is going to die
The same is with BB, The nightmare doesnt end
Yea and in my opinion, its harder than ds3 and 2. Not sure about 1, dident play enough of it when I had the chance too.
I hope from software make Bloodborn 2
They are
+Tokeidoesgames !!! And release it on more consoles 😞😭
+The R R No only for PS4. Xbots don't need to play it. They need to switch consoles to play it and remember in the future to never purchase a console owned by Microsoft again
+隠れ変質者 lols PS4 Master console race
Tokeidoesgames !!! Also you do realize that they already revealed that they have no current plans for a Soulsborne game, and instead they'll be working on a new IP and continuing the Armored Core series?
You shouldn’t be talking about how monotonous the combat-blood vial cycle is when you aren’t even utilizing Visceral Attacks in your playthrough. Not only are they easy to pull off, they’re easy to learn as well.
And you could say that they negate switched-weapon combat, but that isn’t true. I constantly switch between my Chikage normal-form to its two-handed variant. It’s all about circumstance in this game, and to knock it because you’re not realizing the weakness almost every enemy has (visceral attacks) is a detriment to yourself. It may be hard to pull of parries, but they work really well, especially in the Blood-Starved Beast fight.
To be honest, Bloodborne isn’t an overtly-aggressive Souls game. It’s conscious risk-taking, I’d say every new encounter to an enemy requires some interesting plan-making and a different approach to how you’re gonna take up the fight. Believe me, I used to be that guy who always used a +10 saw cleaver and specked out Vitality, Strength, and Endurance. Now, after beating the game twice, I’m using arcane and bloodtinge weapons and having a blast.
Point is, don’t call this game’s combat loop unrewarding when it has varied situations with varied gameplay.
Well....
Ganes like this are meant to be played in different ways.
It is Dark Souls that is overly defensive. Bloodborne is more like 50/50 attack-defense.
What? What are you talking about, what the fuck do Visceral Attacks have to do with blood vial farming? He even praised the combat, he just said it’s tedious to farm blood vials every time you have to redo a boss, which it is. The points you made sound literally like you just wanted to randomly defend the game from arguments which were never even made. As if using visceral attacks on trash mobs for farming blood vials would make the farming less tedious, they‘d die to one hit anyways so what the hell man.
@@EpsilonBiatch Use your bloodechoes right and you don't have to farm.
true also you don't need to farm at all just slap on some runes that give more echoes when u slay an enemy or visceral it to death and go buy those things
Also even if you struggle with echoes you could just go to a chalice dungeon since those things give big boi echoes
Let me show you my favorite moment in the entire game.
*shows footage of Curse Rotted Greatwood*
Did he really?
Oooh 69 likes
I actually prefer Bloodborne to Dark Souls 3 for a few reasons. Be warned, there are spoilers below.
Bloodborne brings more "new" ideas to the table than just combat-related aspects. The Lovecraft-inspired lore of Bloodborne adds a significant amount of depth to the plot and enriches the world. The way in which it's presented is genius and especially impactful to those of us who played at release. I remember watching the initial trailers of Bloodborne and thinking, "wow, this looks like a boring Dark Souls clone taking place in a medieval Raccoon City (from Resident Evil)." All we saw was the Hunter battling undead creatures, it was really quite dull by Dark Souls standards. And the beginning of Bloodborne definitely does feel that way. But as you progress further, you start to get little hints of what's really going on. And by the end of the game you're battling otherworldly beings who drive normal people insane with their image alone.
Once you start putting the pieces of lore together, you realize that, much like Dark Souls, just about everything in the game is there for a reason. Even the simplest environmental objects in the game have a lot of meaning beyond explaining the events that are taking place in Yharnam. There's this feeling that you, the player character, are relatively insignificant in the grand scheme of things, especially as you start to piece together what's going. That eventually extends to feeling like Yharnam itself is fairly insignificant, and as you delve further, the entire planet starts to feel relatively insignificant, as you begin to realize that the ancient beings you're dealing with are otherworldly and beyond normal human perception. Then the beauty of the lore and the world really starts to sink in: you have these human beings so desperately trying to "ascend" and comprehend the incomprehensible. As a result, everything they built and worked for begins to crumble as insanity takes over. And you, the Hunter, eventually go toe-to-toe with these celestial beings. I think it actually catches that feeling of progression better than any Dark Souls game before it. I think all of us Souls fans love that feeling of growing as a character and a player. We started off by killing that weak Asylum Demon (or maybe Phalanx for Demon's Souls fans) and by the end of a Souls games we're facing off against gods and ancient horrors. In Bloodborne by the end of the game we're battling Celestial beings who are painted as being impossible to perceive completely, beings that go beyond what we can imagine with our feeble human minds.
Dark Souls 3 has great lore but I feel it relies a bit too much on the first game. It does feel a bit "fanservicey" to me, and sometimes not all that inspired. It's still overall pretty deep but I think for a game whose story relies so much on Dark Souls, I think there could have been far more done either in connecting Dark Souls with Dark Souls 2 or perhaps giving us a far different view of Dark Souls rather than showing us what happened after the events of Dark Souls.
On a different subject, while I do agree with you that Bloodborne's environments can feel a bit too similar, I do think the world itself is more enjoyable to explore and overall feels more expansive. It feels more rooted in reality at the beginning, but once you start traversing some of the later areas and especially the Nightmares, I do think it ends up being just as varied as Dark Souls. Bloodborne could have benefited from more variety in the first half of the game, but I think as far as an overall package goes, you do end up with a lot of distinct environments. There's Yharnam, of course, and there's the snowy castle of Cainhurst, the Lecture Building, Nightmare Frontier, Nightmare of Mensis and Yahar'gul. The DLC adds even more variety with the warped landscapes and the aquatic themed fisherman's village. Also, remember that the world does change after killing Rom, something I think is really cool and reminiscent of Anor Londo if you kill Gwyndolin. The blood-red moon hanging down provides a different glow to Yharnam and gives it a unique atmosphere. Then there's the chalice dungeons of course, of which there are some unique looking areas.
I still think Bloodborne's world is more memorable than Dark Souls 3. You mentioned the shortcuts, and that's a big part of it. But I think the way in which areas are accessed and how it all comes together really does have a lot more impact than even Dark Souls. I really like how getting killed by the kidnapper enemies takes you to a whole new area upon respawning. I love how hidden Cainhurst was. I enjoyed re-traversing older areas under the glow of the blood red moon and eventually making my way to the horrific Nightmare areas.
The world of Dark Souls 3 is awesome, but I will say that I think it does feel sometimes a bit too similar to Dark Souls. I was a bit disappointed by how small some areas are. Take the Consumed King's Garden. I think a lot more could have been done with that. Instead of being this expansive maze filled with unique plant-life, it's a few props with some tough enemies patrolling around that you can sprint by to the boss. I feel like a lot of areas in Dark Souls 3 are very small, especially in comparison to Bloodborne. I remember getting lost for quite some time in the forest in Bloodborne. In Dark Souls 3, I don't think I ever got lost or felt like I was exploring. It's a very straightforward experience.
I know this has been long so I'll make my last point short. I think Bloodborne brought more innovation to combat to the table than Dark Souls 3. Dark Souls 3 has engaging and fun combat, but ultimately it's not too much different from Dark Souls or Dark Souls 2. And that's okay, it really shouldn't depart that much. But Bloodborne really did feel like a fresh experience. The faster pace, the trick-weapons, the lack of shields, the inclusion of guns and timing stuns with guns, it felt VERY different from any of the other Souls games while still retaining that definite Souls combat structure that emphasizes careful response to enemies.
Anyways, love your videos and I think you did a great job with this one. I may disagree but I respect the points you made.
Bloodborne's lore and world is so much better.
I agree with everything you said. I did think that Dark Souls 3 lacked a lot that could have made it unique but instead relied on already established things. I just hope with their next game, they take a new approach like they did with Bloodborne
+Drazor123 well it is a sequel so it is to be expected
As much as I love Bloodborne, there was something about the Great Ones that didn't make me love it... I enjoyed the game, don't get me wrong. I just felt more engaged with DkS' story. It's probably due to the fact that I love big swords and shields, but enh.
Oshiria Your reasons to dislike Bloodborne are the reasons I love it.
Eh bloodborne is the better game for story and creativity also the expansion was a lore explosion along with the epic trick weapons. Ahem sorry for praising ds3 got boring for me after ng+ 2
Agreed. they need to add more ncp to the mix or various different encounters.
bb might be better than ds3 but it will never be better than ds1
+PhantomFucks in my opinion I disagree it's my least favorite souls game gameplay wise .
+The Good Hunter why gameplay wise it's the predecessor of the modern soulsborne series
+PhantomFucks eh it wasn't really that fun I do like the connected world but blight town and sens fortress bored me they weren't engaging and left I always left kinda meh after every session.
"Bloodborne ditched magic"
- Arcane
- Hunter tools
- Moonlight greatsword
- Milkweed rune
- Kos parasite
Someone forgot.
Only hunter tools can be called magic (in the sense of "spells"). And they are kinda lame compared to the 3 Dark souls.
@@user-pc3nc3hg6w Hunter tools count as the "spells" but "magic" technically also falls under intelligence/faith and the weapons that scale with them with attunement being how many spells you can fire off. Also hunter tools are more companion pieces to your base weapons. Except a call beyond... That's a straight up DS1 level spell... Like dark bead in damage potential with a slightly longer wind up and outward spread.
@@fizzie6902 Yeah, but I think that's what he meant when he said there's no magic.
Ah yes, the space broccoli
3 of these are in DLC, and arcane spells are just a waste of quicksilver bullets.
*entirety of game in eternal night* “The whole game is very dark”
To be fair it is a little hard to see at times.
@@thesnatcher3616 use the torch 🤷🏻♂️
@@thesnatcher3616 what brightness you be playing on?
@@idkwtcm984 Max, I think. But more of a subjective issue than anything. I would argue it makes the game more atmospheric. No my biggest gripe with Bloodborne is how spammy it sometimes feels. But that's another subjective issue. I don't really see a lot of problems in Bloodborne.
@@thesnatcher3616 what? I play on half and I can see everything perfectly.
Anor Londo is memorable, because wondrous chests.
And in the first dark souls I remember them bewbs ☺️😎💯
Its for real when it comes to boobs my dude 😂
amazing chest ahead
Try holding with two hands.
“I felt like the bosses at the end were easier then the ones at the start” maybe you just got better at the game forehead
i don't think he's fought the orphan.
Tbh the bosses in Nightmare of Mensis are extremely easy so I understand being disappointed in that, even if I thought their atmosphere/design made up for it. But clearly he didn’t play the DLC because those bosses are absolutely brutal.
shawn lepine literally harder than isshin
Hol Horse club Nah, Orphan of Kos is predictable and you can literally parry him to death if you really wanted to.
Kenny Green orphan is not predictable in your first play through and he’s got some weird timings and on top of that he can combo you to death.
"You can only have a Max of 20 Blood vials" that means you didn’t go to Hemwick Charnel lane, Iosefkas Clinic, Cainhurst Castle, didn’t encounter 2 bosses, missed a covenant, an entire weapon/armour set and a character questline
Also: guess you didn’t also venture through the Chalice Dungeons (a HUGE part of the game)
All those things are so easy to miss. Those quests and areas are poorly integrated into the game
Some Guy I don’t think you’ve played the game then
Phoenix Zero I did I played it with no guide completely blind and I missed most of those (I think). The only quest line I fully did was the Eileen quest. But like there are so many vague things in the game like how to get to Cainhurst Castle or to losefkas clinic. The game is good but the layout is a such a mess and it’s so vague.
Chalice dungeons were a pain in the ass but worth it for the platinum
@@someguy9496 i totally agree with you. I also wouls have missed a lot, if there were not good guides available. The same for the third ending, the one with the umbilical cords, thank god that there is internet 🙏 bloodborne it s the first gave on which i got a platinum trophy
Bloodborne is my first Soulsborne game. Trying Dark Souls 1 after that feels like Bloodborne in slow motion.
Oh reaaaaally... BB is also my first soulsborne game (after doing The Surge (a soulslike sci-fi game and Salt & Sancturary (a soulslike side-scroller)). Now I'm looking forward to doing Dark Souls 1 Remastered and hopefully burning through it.
Bb was my second souls game , when I jumped to ds3 , combat felt a bit slow and boring (still loved it), but the speed and anime dodges in bb made it mad good
Here am I in 2018 and still waiting for BB 2 to be announced.
Hell yeah!
From software are working on a game now with miyazaki but it's all secret and very hush hush right now
Doubt there will be a second the way BB came out. But at the same time its not impossible.
Imo BB is better as a standalone and better for multiple expansions over the years. It make sense given how massive the world is. They can continue to build as they did with the Old Hunters world. Maybe something more to do with the Celestials? Plenty of lore that can be tossed in to explain their part further.
Dunno just my two cents.
Here am I in 2018 and I still can't beat the Shadow of Yharnam... :D
Gilbert Tibor Jakub Behold Grasshopper.... the giant rocks are your saving grace... The patient will presevere.
I beat in on my first go treating them like normal hunters. Its all about getting your crowd control and working one to two hits then repositioning. While it is a hard fight, the real challenge is avoiding the stunlocks teamwork.
just can't deny Bloodbrone is so much better.
Its just opinion. I prefer DS3
“I never really learned how to parry so I mostly two handed my weapons” sounds like a personal problem, here’s the solution learn.
“Don’t like that the blood vails are consumables cause it makes me grind when I couldn’t defeat the bloodstarved beast” sounds to me like you should have learned to parry him
“No magic” arcane and bloodtinge dude, just cause it’s less doesn’t mean it isn’t there
i have to agree with the second point though. I came from ds3 and the grinding process sucks ass.
when fighting bosses, the process seemed too tedious. when i was stuck at ludwig, i spent more time grinding for the blood vials then actually fighting the boss
@@brianw.2791 yeah that’s one of the few things I didn’t like about bloodborne. Most bosses I was to scared to use blood vials because “hey if I die I’m only limiting my healing in the next try at the boss” it’s exactly what happened with the blood starved beast because most enemies right next to the arena don’t drop blood vials consistently enough
@@brianw.2791 why not just go to a chalice and parry enemy’s to death? Is way easier to just buy them in bulk then to grind for them
He should also have paid attention to Item Descriptions (*Ehem* Pungent Blood Cocktail and Molotov Cocktail *Ehem*) that could've helped him on BSB
@@wtimu6945 A little quick tip
Just use every single Blood Echo on Blood Vials because if you get more than max, they go to your storage
If you die or go back to the dream, it will automatically fill in your Blood Vials, same with the Bullets
You do know that you can just buy blood viles in the hunters dream. And you stock the excess viles in the dream too where you automatically restock.
But blood vials are super cheap and you can buy a ton no need to grind that much.
Eduardo Tejera exactly. If required, once in a while convert your big stash of echoes into blood vials instead of gear/levels. Boom you're done. No need to think about it for a good long time.
It's great to know in hindsight. But if you die on a boss and have no echoes, it's too late
snomaN Gaming easier to farm echoes tho and then buy vials instead of farming vials directly.
but its still farming :(
This is one of the things that definitly becomes better in a second playthrough. Once you know it's easy to avoid - no farming required, decent stash of vials at all times. But yeah at first it can be annoying.
8:07 "But now in Dark Souls 3 we see a *brand new* bar at the top, for our magic"
**ehem**
Demon Souls did that first...
I guess but Kings Field would be the original who used magic bars first.
aaaand, if you actually went ahead and watched the video, you would know he did not play Demon Souls.
:) - But you're right, he needs to check facts first, before he states them to us..
sergiocast345 don't think he played demons souls
Kaci Zeigler When I said it did so first, I meant that it did so first in the Souls series.
And surely enough the magic bar would count as *new* since DS2 didn't have it, but not exactly as *brand new*.
Also don't be so fucking rude the next time, thanks.
Actually he said at the end that demon souls is the only game that he never played, so thats why i think he didn't know about it.
I thought I liked DS3 more than BB as I couldn’t get into it. But after playing BB fully I am completely admitting that BB is the most incredible unique experience. DS3 is brilliant too but damn BB is so good. 3 playthroughs in and it still keeps pulling me back with more and more secrets missed
Bloodborne was the first Fromsoft game i ever beat....and I played through it twice. LOVE BB.....I tried ds3, but that Quickstep vs roll....gimme Quickstep. All day.
ngl at first when I entered Bloodborn I was disappointed and didn't like it, it was also my very first soul game and I found it very hard but then I kept playing and and getting further in it and now I love the game
Did you actually “play” Bloodborne or just “played” 2/3 of the way and said “ I’ve seen everything
You know, just because someone doesn't like your videogame as much as you do, doesn't mean that person didn't "really" play the game. What a childish way of thinking
@@doktorwollknaul443 the guy didn't know about magic in bloodborne. He said that they ditch the magic in exchange for guns, which is completely incorrect because of arcane build.
@@lordofolimpia1 oh, i´m sry. i forgot. the arc scaling boom hammer is what i think of when i talk about magic. a giant exploding sledgehammer. ofc that's only one example. then there are hunter tools. hunter tools legit use BULLETS. you know why? cus gunplay is the bigger focus in BB than fcking magic. there is a reason there's no mana or arcane meter for your "spells". you are a hunter. you´ll never be anything else but a hunter. no matter how you´ll build, you´ll never end up as a mage. you know why? cus they kinda ditched the concept of magic. arc scaling is not the same as magic builds and hunter tools aren't magic. they are tools. would you consider throwing a molotov magical? i mean, you throw it, it explodes, fire spreads. great spell. or the flamethrower wich scales with arc? amazing burning hands spell. don´t be so butthurt just cus someone didn´t like the game you liked a lot. they ditched the concept of magic. cus slinging spells around in BB would be fcking weird. he was 100% correct on that and you´re just looking for ways to discredit him cus your feelings got hurt cus someone didn't like your game :(
@@doktorwollknaul443 you seem like the person who didn't play the game with an arcane build. molotov cocktail and sledgehammer is not the "magic" type. Search the broccoli man in bloodborne and you'll understand what I'm talking about.
@@lordofolimpia1 u mean the kos parasite with the milkweed rune? again, how could u ever consider this to be a traditional magic fighting style.
molotov cocktails legit scale with arc. are you serious? i´m starting you think u didn´t even "really" play the game with an arc build. then again, you get buthurt over someone not considering slaping someone with alien tentacles magic.
So the coolest part about making this video has been seeing the love for all of the Soulsborne games in the comments. I've gotten equal comments talking about each game and why they love it so much, which is awesome and shows me why the series is so great. Everyone can love different aspects of the series and hold different games as their favorite.
That being said, all I ask is that you respect other people's opinion because of that. We all love DS and BB here, so don't attack someone for liking one game better than another. Thanks guys! Thanks for the positive feedback so far.
DS > DS3 > BB=DeS > DS2 in my opinion :) It heavily depends on what your first FromSoftware experience was. For me i struggled with DS1 a long time and made a break for 2 weeks back then when i finally reached the capra demon :D But after i beat him, i lost to DS and became a fanboy xD My expectations i had for DS2 were crushed when it got released and i decided to play DeS instead.
Until now i obv finished all the titles several times with DS1 about 900h gamingtime at the top. DS3 gave me the nostalgic feeling, i had when i just started with the series, again so it comes 2nd on my fav list.
You made the first boss of DS3 seem like a challenge. It wasn't. Sorcerers completely destroy him, and his HP is ridiculously low. Probably one of the easiest fights in the game.
DeS - DS - BB is for me
Loved the video, and please play Demon's Souls if you ever get the chance! You might have heard it's pretty flawed gameplay and lore/world wise compared to Dark Souls and Bloodborne, which is true, but there are so many things I think you'll better understand about its descendants if you play it. The design of the Firelink Shrine in DS3 and the Hunter's Dream in BB, many of the bosses (like how Pinwheel is essentially Fool's Idol from Demon's Souls), several of the game areas and even a good deal of the NPCs - little of it is directly connected to its spiritual successors, of course, but after playing them all I think you'll love seeing how the seeds that grew into Dark Souls and Bloodborne began to appear in Demon's Souls.
Nicky Weaver LOL, FUCKING DEMON'S SOULS XD
Bloodborne is a masterpiece
Watermelon dog best game ever made 😎
@@josephkitchen3059 nah
if only bloodborne had more sidequests and covenants
Requiemoooo woooah woooah
Yep I got into the game way too late recently despite owning it since 2016 lmfao. I finally had the patience to play it and even got the platinum trophy for it.
4:15 git gud, scrub
Add “scrub” to that sentence so it could be “Git gud, scrub”
Bruh when I first play this game I suck but I got good after keep playing over and over
@@cottony4dr LMAO he took ur advice
Cringe
@@cottony4dr how dare you give him cringe advice
For the complaint about blood vials:
If you collect more than twenty, I'm pretty sure they go into storage, and will automatically be pulled out when next you die.
I liked Dark Souls 3 a lot but Bloodborne was a strong hit for me. I couldn't stop playing it for 3 months.
I'm stuck in Cathedral Ward. Have no idea where to go and all the guides are so complicated that I kind of put it down. Gonna come back once I finish Ds3 and it's dlc.
Same here, dark souls is great, but bloodborne is one of the best games ever made. I still cant stop playing 5 years later
@@thesnatcher3616 my PSN is LawyerOfBirdLaw
Add me bro I’ll summon in and help you with any area you wanna explore
@@thesnatcher3616
Cathedral ward is pretty simple once you get used to it.
Just explore a bit and kill every enemy. Eventually you'll find your way through.
If you get a lot of echoes you can open a certain gate using a cloth found at the messengers bath that costs 10000... I think...
@@thesnatcher3616 What bosses have you beaten already? Once I know that I can probably give you good enough directions.
i like bloodborne more, but both game will make you stay in ur room for a few weeks
Bloodborne is THE game that can teach anyone how to like and play Soulsborne games.
That's how I got to into them
Trash game
My theory for why the devs wanted you to farm blood vials when you died is because they wanted you to do what you were there for: hunt beasts. It makes sense storywise so I think thats a cool little detail.
I've only played Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 and for some reason I find DS3 bosses extremely easy compared to BB's :/
The dancer??
because they are. Try Ornstein and Smough from the 1st Dark souls they will kick your ass.
+hani The Dancer is a really easy boss fight actually, she does a lot of walking around without attacking and telegraphs her attacks quite clearly, keeping an eye on your stamina and her attack patterns, she is a very easy boss.
after playing through Dark Souls 3, I went back and played Dark Souls for the first time....Beat Ornstein and Smough within an hour. Some bosses took me HOURS to beat in Dark Souls 3. O & S are tough but for me personally, I feel there are at least 3, maybe as many as 5 bosses in DS3 that are tougher than those assholes. But everyone else played DS first so they have that nostalgia/extreme difficulty memory that makes them a bit biased. Having played through Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 and am now nearing completion of the original, I can honestly say the original ranks 3rd in difficulty for me out of the 3.
In fact, the only part of Dark Souls that offered anywhere near the frustration/difficulty as I had with the Twin Princes, Pontiff Sulyvahn, Ludwig, Gehrman and Orphan of Kos is probably the Crystal Caves and of course Blighttown. The invisible paths are complete horse shit and the boss fights in those areas are atrocious. In fact, most of the bosses in the original are either unmemorable and underwhelming, terribly designed, borderline boring or straight up easy. I died around 250 times in Dark Souls 3 on my first playthrough. Bloodborne, including DLC, I'd say 300+ times, seeing as I did the DLC on NG+. I'd say up until having 3 bosses left in Dark Souls, I died less than 100 times. I'm not denying that the original is a great game or that it is difficult. It is. I still have enjoyed it immensely and the way the game is designed, i.e. interrconnectivity and seamlessness, is astounding and the music is second to none. But having played Bloodborne, a near perfect game, and Dark Souls 3, a perfect marriage of Dark Souls and Bloodborne, before the original, I just don't have as high of an opinion of Dark Souls as most of the nostalgic fanboys in the community have. Don't even get me started on DS2. I despise that game. And before anyone starts talking about PvP, I couldn't care less about it personally. I don't like competitive multiplayer in any games. I'm a single player/cooperative gamer at heart.
I don't know why, but I'm far better at Bloodborne than I am at DS. Any of them. As such I enjoy Bloodborne more, it's a challenge for sure but an extremely enjoyable one.
Yeah after playing all the games BB is definitely the easiest, probably because of the faster movement.
@psykosonikwarrior not the defiled chalice dungeon xD
You must play aggressively then
oh, i feel like dark souls 3 is easy compared to bloodborne.. the game is too fast for me
DS3 was much harder for me. And more fun
“You can only use 20 blood vials” so I’m guessing you haven’t played long enough to get runes bud?
“No magic”
Rosmarinus
Flamesprayer
A huge portion of melee weapons
A call beyond
Augur of Ebrietas
Blacksky eye
Executioners glove
Old hunter bone
Hunters torch
Torch
Choir bell
Beast roar
Tiny tonitrus
Accursed brew
Molotov
Rope Molotov
Literally any weapon with an arcane blood gem
Just to name a few
Also, the complaint about the lack of variation in landscape is baseless. The game has a large amount of gothic architecture/ buildings/ cityscapes, but it also has forests, caves (such as the poison one in the forbidden woods), churches, clock towers, a fishing hamlet, the entire hunter’s nightmare, the Hunters dream, etc.
he didn't play the game
@@Koi33. He did play the game, he obviously just got blinded by his love for DS3 that he just purposefully ignored a lot of things that Bloodborne does well.
It would've been better if he just made a video about why DS3 is great, instead of dragging bloodborne down to do so.
@@Koi33. "he likes ds3 more than bloodborne, he's stupid and did not finished the game 1! 1!1"
Dark souls: Praise the sun!
Bloodborne: Praise the Moon.
Dark souls: Slow and defensive.(relatively)
Bloodborne: Quick and aggressive.
Ive played all of the dark souls games for a couple years now and i dont think i have ever blocked an attack, Why block an attack if you can dodge out of the way?
Dark souls 3 is definitely not slow and defensive, it’s also not as fast as bloodborne.
Did this guy ever play ds? Lmao
Adam Chahbani compared to bloodborne it is slow
@@yodathemassshooter5161 The blackbird is also slow compared to light.
I dont think you had played darksouls III and bloodborne enough to give them fair and just reviews
What makes you think that? I've beaten both twice.
the fact that he didn't understand the lore when he made this video made a huge difference i think. the lore in these two games is phenomenal. And some of the mechanics he hadn't understood yet. Like if you're having trouble beating a bloodborne boss, you can buy health vials for really cheap, and you can summon help whether youre online or offline. I know there were some other things that he said that seemed wrong to me, but i dont feel like watching it again to find out what those were haha
1) You can't buy vials from the shop when you have no blood echoes. If you die on a boss, you have no echoes, thus you have to farm.
2) I played completely offline, so I didn't summon any help whatsoever
And man, people take the lore way too seriously. Whatever happened to just playing a game and thinking up you're own story. It might be wrong, but who cares? It was my interpretation, thats all I'm sharing.
Yeah i played offline too. I didn't summon any help, but that option was still there to summon npcs to help you. I never ran out of blood vials in the game because they're so easy to come by, and if i was getting low, id kill a few things and buy more. I honestly get a lot more frustrated with the healing mechanic in DS, because the vials don't heal a large percent in the higher levels. And your thinking on people taking the lore too seriously is completely subjective. A really big reason why the majority of souls fans like the games is because of the cryptic mystic lore behind them. I don't expect you to understand that though because i guess you like to make your own lore up? You're definitely missing out on what From Software has to offer in that aspect. And what do you mean "Whatever happened to just playing a game and thinking up you're own story"? I don't think that's something people ever really did because most games with a plot, have a descriptive story that follows. But to each his own I guess. These were just my reasons why I liked the two games, but opinions differ.
Im just saying the Souls fanbase takes everything way too seriously imo
you didn't play Bloodborne long enough, this review is so clueless it hurts.
Totally agree. He just played the main story once and doesn't even know about side quest characters. Then there is a actual bigger variation of weapons since they have actually differnces between them and transformed modes + transformed attacks add a lot variaton too. He also probably didn't play the dlc which contains half of the weapons. Also he says he had to farm blood vials because he ran out of them, but ignores to use the other ressource because he doesn't want to learn to parry. Of course you run out of vials if you don't take the risk of attacking to heal back up or using bullets to parry.
Why should I play bloodborne over dark soul 3?
@@gargola1887 Play both
@@SgtYTube well i need to pick one ..so please tell me which one is better
@@gargola1887 I personally would say Bloodborne. The Levels are better designed and most weapons in Bloodborne feel unique. Also the fact that they removed shields, leads the player to play more agressive which is much more fun. Bloodbornes DLC is also one of the best dlc's in the world. And the most important thing is that the hunter stuff is just much more cooler, making you feel like a real badass. But you should play DS3 afterwards.
I just bought blood vials for blood echoes that remained after leveling up.
Yeah you can literally buy blood vials plus they restore once you die so as long as you are smart about it you can always have more.
Yup
It's always strange to me how people started with using shields...
I never liked shields so I learned to dodge.
Maybe it had something to do with piccolo...
😂😂😂
Only reason I use shields is to parry. Other than that I think it's pretty scummy holding up a shield to protect yourself.
That REFERENCE!! 😂😂
Shields; not even once.
At least not for blocking.
DODGE!!!
I think this review is too biased for nostalgic reasons. I've played both games for the first time this year and both are really good, but bloodborne is a masterpiece.
do what an opinion is
khalil jason do you?
And what stops what you said from being biased? Every opinion is fucking biased.
@@wallacesousuke1433 stfu are you sad cause you are bad at the game
khalil jason I'm not, I'm ok ay Souls games :))
To be honest DS3 is great but there are quite a few things in it that are quite unacceptable and should be improved or rethought
5:08 LOL you were too op if you killed micolash like that
Or mabey he was so so bad that he run away a second time lol
This review just starts biased in general. I don’t trust this review
Yeah agreed, this vid. didn't give bb enough credit wayyyy too biased.
That's why you get both games
No such thing as an unbiased review. But I don’t think this guy really understood Bloodborne at all. The fact that he talked about never using parrys despite them being really easy to pull off on giant enemies/other hunters shows that he really didn’t put enough effort into learning the games systems. He wanted to play it like Dark Souls but the game actively encourages you not too
Agree . This isn't a real review. Sounds like he's never played bloodborne
Yeah, his bloodborne review was so eh and then when he got to dark souls he got super excited about it
i extremely like both , but i just fell in love with BB , everything about BB just screams atmosphere and horrific elegance , the way it looks and the way it plays and the way it fucking flows , bloodborne consumed me in a way DS3 didnt quite manage .
when i was playing dark souls 1 and 3 i was thinking of bloodborne , yes , that is how good that bitch is
w wyborn It’s subjective. I personally like DS3 much better. I think Bloodborne’s healing system kind of broke the game. Having 20 blood vials is just too much for experienced players. I never died to any of the main game bloodborne bosses more than 3 times, and I don’t mean that as a brag, just that as someone with an inherently aggressive play style, bloodborne was too easy for me. A cap of 10 blood vials would have been perfect because not only would it further incentivize rallying but also be a great cap for experienced players. It also works for new players because they can use the Caryll tunes to increase their max blood vial count to 15, which should be enough. I think Dark Souls 3 is also a bit too easy for experienced players, but the boss fights were much more memorable because the bosses’ move sets were more interesting. It doesn’t help that a majority of the boss fights in Bloodborne are just rampaging, flailing beasts that you can deal with in the same way. Plus I understand what he means in terms of the lack of “settings” in Bloodborne. The theme of every area is too similar. They’re all dark, grey, have tombstones littered everywhere and don’t really ever feel fresh, especially in the early game (with the exception of Cainhurst).
@@curtisscarlos5761 well i died more than 12 to the third boos in the game
@@curtisscarlos5761 ok if u said easy..just play super mario
That bitch is bad...baad i'm playing ds3 now and can't shake that bitch out of my memory...playing the most aggressive play style ever with light armour and no shield...that makes dealing with invaders a pain though 😂
I guess Bloodborne is your first Souls game? I feel the same about Dark Souls 1
bloodborne makes the healing items a consumable because you are supposed to use the retaliation mechanic to heal in battle, and only use the items when you are in dire need of healing and already cant retaliate. also learning to stagger enemies with the gun makes it much more easier, as it is a core mechanic.
finally, you should mostly use the two handed weapon for swarms of enemies or to get some extra range if its a monster you dont want to get close to (bloodborne is better played up close anyway imo though).
And that is how bloodborne is played! Bravo
You can but healing items in Bloodborne one solid farming run can net you enough Blood Echoes for easily over 100 blood vials, that's how you're meant to get them. The ones the enemies drop should be seen as a bonus so you can have more than the allotted 20 in one run.
Yup, you'll rarely if ever find a need to farm vials if you make use of the mechanics provided. Even if you did somehow get low on vials, you can literally do a quick sweep of the starting map, get masses of vials drops and spend those blood echos on 100s more. I can't really see a 5min sweep of a starting area any more a pain in the ass than doing the DS version of running all the way back to a bonfire to refresh your estus. I suppose a small improvement I guess they could make is ALWAYS starting you off with maybe 5 or 10 vials? So even if you were to constantly die to a boss and have 0 vials left, when you respawn, you have some back in your inventory, so like a partial estus only when you have none left.
Him admitting he never even tried to get used to the parry mechanic was a sad thing to hear too, it's really something worth learning early on. And agreed with the two handed thing too, especially the axe, it's so much slower when two handed without much extra damage potential, I think your better going one hand and using that extra speed and stam for more dodge and hits. Two hand is great as part of r1/l1 combos though.
I get your point but keep in mind that some use them to refill their health between blood bullet recharges.
Now, while most people have this gamestyle as it is the most effective for the game. Some people don't and just want to enjoy the game the way they do. For example, keep in mind that having more range allows for a wider margin of error especially if you don't know that well boss patterns/master your weapon range and you get a slightly better point of view to see ennemies from max range (negligeable let's be honnest but usefull on small/medium ennemies). So yeah, some people with old DS reflexes would rather not risk getting bashed a second time especially when as he said he first tried a lot of bosses in the second half of the game by playing safe and not using the retaliation mechanic.
Finally, you can store and purchase a shitload of vial to make it a nonexistant problem.
Actually vials are just one of 2 options. If you get hit, the game gives you the opportunity to back off and heal with a ressource that is limited. Or be agressive, take the risk and attack him back to get your hp back. Which decision is the right one depends on the attack the enemy is doing. Is he doing one ore 2 attacks at a time? Attack back. Is he comboing? Dodge towards him to get behind him and now attack or heal. If he AOE's combos, just roll backwards and heal. If the motherfucker is constantly doing long range attacks or just ranged attacks, bro you won't get your attacks in time. Just heal you get vials all the time.
Love dark souls, but bloodborne is an unforgettable experience. I got bloodborne themed tattoos for fucks sake
Yeah, this video is a complete joke
Wait why? I think he made good comparisons between the games. That is the whole purpose of th video after all
@@wtimu6945 People are saying that he didn’t even play half the game because he missed so much but I think that he was too rushed to get to start playing Dark Souls 3 that he did not really give bloodborne a chance
@@wtimu6945 can you not see how biased he was against bloodborne?
@@idkwtcm984 of course I can, but the video was about his experience and comparing his experience with it. I still think it’s a bad review tho
@@wtimu6945 it is a comparison video. He has to remove bias when you compare things or else it is not a comparison but personal experience. Like the title is literally bloodborne vs dark souls 3 not my experience’s with bloodborne and dark souls 3.
For me personally:
BB: best pve, graphics
DeS: need to play more
DS1: best world design, lore
DS2: best pvp, covenants
DS3: best...um...Final boss? I dunno.
Still love Dark Souls 3 though :D
I'd say that DS3 had the finest fan service amongst the series. The final boss, the lore implications with the Namesless King, etc.
Dark Souls 3 is still garbage though. The game's fun but the lack of poise, decent weapons other than Dark Sword, Estoc, Fume Greatsword and Twin Prince's Greatsword (in some cases other weapons for one-shot builds and such) difficulty as you go into NG+'s and practicality of Armor (due to no poise) I would prefer Bloodborne any day.
And keep in mind, other weapons can be used ofc, I myself usually go with Onokiri and Ubadachi without any bleed build or whatever and it works fine. But the best ones are listed above.
+Link Hyrule People are allowed an opinion. I think dark souls 3 is an amazing game
i never really blocked in dark souls. i guess i prefer fast paced combat so thats how i played even prior to bloodborne
SUCKMANOSE I thought I was the only one who didn't use shields
SUCKMANOSE Same, I started with dark souls 3 and about halfway through (excluding Pontiff) I gave up on shields and learned to dodge. Just started Bloodborne last week and combat feels very similar.
TheChickfilacowz actually I take what I said about shields back when I was in dark souls fighting the tintite demon having a shield helped me dodge his attacks and when I was in darkroot garden using a shield helped me against those giants especially aginst those plant Monsters
My creation, don't you have more beasts to slay? xD
USW It's hard to find beasts to slay now cus they all fear the name SUCKMANOSE!
The worst part of this video is the absolute hypocrisy of Dark Souls fanboys. If a souls-like game is released by a different developer they rip it to shreds because its a dark souls clone or doesn't do things as well. From releases a different experience and variation on the Dark Souls narrative and the fanboys rip it apart for not being a souls clone.
Funny that some of the arguments peoole use against bloodborne is that it is a souls-reskin.
I understand it people, we all want DS4. This doesn't mean they should be hammering on Bloodborne because it isn't DS4.
8:00 what? I must have played another version of Bloodborne
Yeah he doesnt know what he is talking about
Magic is barely used regardless if you use it, so it does kinda ditch it as a feasible and mainstream way to dish damage. You have very limited build potential in Bloodborne.
@@jetthejudge nah arcane builds are pretty mainstream now. it's like the first thing people do after their first playthrough
@@heythisisntxboxrl5174 still extremely limited in what you can do
@@jetthejudge no it’s not? You have more tools than with any other build
am i the only one that think bloodborne is harder than darksouls3? i don't have hardtime fighting DkS3 boss at all but BB i got scared by the environment enemies and the boss
I love the bosses from BB better than dark souls. For me, they are scarier.
shicaduech bb is Not harder But Its different
yes definitely different
shicaduech The game's aren't "hard" your mind just needs to adjust to the game, learn the movesets and patterns and it'll be easy as fuck. A hard difficulty would be like giving the enemies more health or stronger damage output or even add more enemies.
Howya Doin but pvp darksouls3>>>>bloodborne, lore BB=Dks3
The blood vials being a limited item has to do with the lore of the game. The relationship between hunters, beasts and blood. It the same way that Estus, bonfires, leveling up, homeward bones and the undead are an example the the FromSoft effort for seamless connection between gameplay and lore. That's a big part of what separates them from other games, not just that they're challenging with a high learning curve.
Very true. And this sure is amazing and admirable. But the question still remains: did they make the design choice of limited blood vials first, and then create the lore for them, or was it the other way around? The reason this is important is because if they made the blood vial gameplay mechanic first, they might as well had created equally awesome lore connections with an entirely different system altogether.
With this being said, I still have no issues with the blood vial system as it stands, both gameplay and lore wise. It's awesome imo.
They likely would have preferred to use recharging healing like estus, but that mechanic isn't logical in bloodborne's world. The idea with the blood vials is that the whole of Yharnam society is hooked on the blood like a drug, and people carry syringes full of the blood around for when they need a fix. So making them a drop makes sense. I'm sure they tried to figure out a better solution but having them magically refill does not make sense.
It’s a made up world, they could’ve just as easily make an estus like blood vial system make sense.
No matter how you cut it, there’s no way to make running out of blood vials and having to farm for more interesting from a gameplay standpoint.
@@SuperSecretAgentNein Are you serious? Damn near half the beasts I killed dropped blood vials. I had like 200 in storage after a few hours. I NEVER had to farm them.
James Reese the first area of the game where the enemies frequently and consistently drop them, if you had an easy enough time with the bosses and don’t end up running that’s awesome, but for those who do end up hitting that classic “boss wall” and on top of all that need to take a break from attempts just to farm? That sucks. It brings the fun to a screeching halt.
It’s simple: DS 3 needed the lore, locations and characters from the previous installments and more than a bit from Bloodborne new concepts into the bosses fights to be that great. Bloodborne accomplished so much in a single installment and has a great lore. For me, it’s Bloodborne all the way.
@WinnieTheGrizzly Why the Chalice Dangeons are a bad addiction? They added a ton of fun challenges and even lore.
DS3 was the end to the series so they made call backs. hell the ringed city and Painted world are new and fun as fuck.
WinnieTheGrizzly Chalice dungeons have new bosses and different weapon types. Also are completely optional. Also just started DS3, and so far it’s alright, but not even close to the atmosphere of BB, and lots of open fields with enemies in it, just a long walk from Boss to boss. Also so many weapons feel like reskins of previous ones.
to the people that don't like chalices you can pretty much skip like 70% of the grinding and farming from glyphs
Talk about a biased comparison lmao. Lot of things that were straight up wrong about bloodborne. There’s magic, it’s not just a Victorian city, blood vials are plenty
"Pop an ember" Sounds like some kind of drug even though it's not.
He was playing too much Bloodborne
I mean this game is a drug, is it not?
Nick H no.. no its not lol
"Pop an ember" sounds like something a Fortnite player would say
Loved both of them. I started with Bloodborne as my first "Souls Game" so it has that nostalgia factor ;)
im thinking of getting ps4 soon, this looks awesome, should i get it
definitively. You can get Bloodborne for round about 17 bugs on amazon.
***** yeah i just might get it. im trading my xbox in soon... seems like ps4 has better exclusives
+Ssj .Blurr did you get it? Bloodborne is a fucking masterpiece
T-Raww The GOAT nope, but i got uncharted and the last of us lol
I can tell the nostalgia factor greatly affects this review.
and the ps fanboys greatly affect the comments
@@shrekonion7032 dark souls III is on ps4 lmao
@@ZerolinGD but its not exclusive.......... meaning its on xbox, meaning ps femboys
@@shrekonion7032 Do you hate Bloodborne?
@@vlone2212 no its my favorite, I'm just tired of people bashing dark souls tho
4:39 he died to The One Reborn...
Well.... that’s embarrassing....
Hahaha yeah... w who would do that...😁🙃
Well.... i died TWO TIMES to the Celestial Emissary. So, i know how it feels
I never died to him yet..
but why is it embarrassing?
Dark Souls =
10% Luck
20% Skill
15% Concentrated power of will
5% Pleasure
50% Pain
100% Reason to link the flame
Fort Minor fan?
Percentages are somewhat inaccurate but I still laughed.
**facepalm**
100% reason to become a darkwraith
100% Reason to fuck the flame
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but hear me out guys: I actually think the healing system in bb is far superior to that of dark souls and I don't say this bc I'm a bb fanboy; in fact, I also hated the bb healing system at first, BUT now I've realised that it is an evolvement from ds's. like the op said, he fought the bsb until he lost all his vials, but exactly now bb healing system shines: while you could battle a boss endlessly in dark souls, because estus replenished itself, until beating him eventually, in bb you have to plan whether you want to fight a boss you know you're going to lose all blood vials to or you want to be smarter and go elsewhere first and eventually coming back later o, or you really have to give your very best at boss fights. bb demands greater caution from the player, you can't just mindlessly battle a boss, you have to carefully fight them and manage your supplies far better then in ds. the op just got frustrated by bb's healing system bc he mindlessly fought the bsb, because he's used to fight bosses that way in previous souls games: but not in bb. I've seen hpdarksoulslp's bb playthrough and he immediately understood how bb healing system works, if you look at his lps, he didn't have the struggle of farming vials one single time; because ultimately, he played far more cautious then in any souls game before!
also, ds's healing system guarantees you to defeat a boss, because with infinite estus replenishment comes infinite tries, that means you are going to beat a boss even if you don't try, whereas in bb, that won't be the case.
Yeah I could have left and gone a different route and come back when I had restocked, but I didn't know there was any other way to go at the time (in my first playthrough). DS definitely influenced how I played tho
+snomaN Gaming just as a matter of fact, in bb, very much like in ds, you you have the option to fight multiple bosses after pater g (asylum demon in ds): cleric beast, blood-starved beast (Paarl if you defeated bsb), witches of hemwick and vicar amelia. so if any boss is too hard, you always have the option to go into another area at the beginning of the game, thus keeping the vials. bb design choices demand a cautious player who understands the world, you have to pay attention to every single mechanic from established in the game if you want the best possible experience. (didn't want to criticise your play style though, just wanted to explain why you probably got frustrated)
+D-Rabbit for Fair point, but the limitation of blood vials is rendered meaningless by the easy ability to farm them...
+DatSteeve you're right but if played right, you'll have a good balance between spending vials and looting them from enemies you defeat along your way, never having the need to farm them.
I keep seeing people telling that in ds3 you mostly use your shield and then attack, AM I THE ONLY FUCKER THAT LEARNED ALL THE BOSSES PATTERNS THEN?!?
This man said it’s always dark. It’s the night of the hunt OF COURSE it’s going to be dark
I don't think that this guy ever finished game. I haven't finished the game yet (just started) but i can tell you that there are plenty of environments; there are plenty of weapons/gear; you can buy healing pots from the shop.. The list can go on and on
DmChunky he complains about the farming, on the way to the boss you get enough blood vials if you kill everything, and that should be more than enough to win the fight imo
@@iliasrydlakowski1420 well not at the endboss that was soooo annoying
@@iliasrydlakowski1420 True. I only need blood vials against beast type boss, Rom and Ebrietas. I suck against them. When I fought Kos and Maria, I didn't need it much (Maybe because they have two hands and easier to read for me?)
@@Skankhunt668 By the time you reach that part of the game you can buy a ton of vials after a single run through a late game area. It's absolutely not that bad.
@@AIIXIII0 the great/ancient one were all a learning curve and all use acarne magic in there attacks which can insta kill. i remeber being stuck in a certain chalice with amy. however where there is cheese you will find mice basically most bosses had a hardcore appproach or you can cheese them. once i learned amys cheese, micolash's cheese and eribitas cheese i was blesssed. who did you find most challenging?
Bloodborne taught me to play aggressively, I had finished all souls games with shield and heavy armor, after bloodborne i went back to those games with just bow and katanas, running around naked and dodging the shit out of everything, it is quite thrilling to say the least and i actually found myself struggling less than before, ornstein and smough, nameless king, for the first time i have beaten them solo
Bloodborne is easy.
Shaun Dennis
Thank you, I am indeed. 😉
Shaun Dennis Bloodborne is only easy once you perfect dodging and the game encourages you to do so but even then getting over run or a first boss fight normally results in death if you lose agressiveness to heal and never recover stance, I've heard DS3 is easier than Bloodborne though so It's also opinion but It's probably easier because Bloodborne taught them how to be agressive and dodge and DS3 followed that styel but also gave you the shield mechanic that's always been there this you could dodge and block.
Fariko Wishless
I played DS3 and became very good at dodging attacks through practise and thereafter began Bloodborne and was alredy great at dodging attacks without putting any effort. Bloodborne's Quick-Step mechanic is more fluent than DS3's Roll mechanic and enemies of Bloodborne usually have lower poise than those of DS3. People find Bloodborne harder because they're not used to dodge. I dodged a lot in Dark Souls 3 and was great at dodging in Bloodborne as a result of that.
tembloroso23 I actually never played a souls game before my friend forced me to try bloodborne. I've not yet used shields, and am never over 70% carry weight. The entire game for me is dodging, and I kind of want to do a knight in shining armour build where i have the best armour and use massive shields all the time
He says that he had a hard time on the blood starved beast, and of coarse he never parries, and he never transforms his weapon
he said he two handed his weapon instead of parrying but he didn't two hand either
From Software: Creates a gigantic world full of lore and diverse enemies.
People: "Ah look, the same enemy from DS1, so lazy re-using assets"
Bloodborne is my favorite game of all-time. However, it introduced me to the Souls series and in turn the Souls games became my favorite game series of all-time. I don't think it matters which individual game is better, each one is amazing in their own right and deserves respect. I believe that when you put the Soulsborne games together, that's the true masterpiece.
Bloodborne would be better if it had more content and variety
Can agree with this. The one prob with Bloodborne is you kinda hit a point where you go "ok werewolves.....I get it, what else you got"
+Brandon Turner have you tried the dlc? it's got new mobs and crazy weapons
I think Bloodborne has the richest and most interesting lore tbh
Quantity does not equal quality
+K agree AF
You haven't finished bloodborne it seems like...
He definitely didn’t lol and I’m still curious how he killed Micolash outside of the arena that you’re LOCKED in for the second half of the battle lol
@@mikekish7874 You can cheese micolash with throwables like poison knives, and if you get a jump attack on him he will start fighting you in that room without using a call beyond. So yeah he cheesed the fight . The video was definitely rushed thought
No cap I wished Elden ring used bloodborne dodge and combat speed instead of the traditional ds roll
Bloodborne: shields? that's for cowards
Being able to use a shield in ds, doesn't mean you are entitled to use. I was never the shield guy, give me my BKG, Twin daggers, Yorshka's chime and Izalith staff then I'm cool.
A: You can buy blood vials, and B: the areas are diverse I. their own ways in Bloodborne
*in
Yes you can buy blood vials, but that doesn't help if you die to a boss because you're left with 0, and you can't recollect your echoes and buy more unless you beat the boss.
For some reason, I rarely had to farm for blood-vials during my first playthrough. Most palyers experience this, when they first fight the bloodstarved beast, as the enemies in old yharnam don't drop bloodvials anymore. But that boss is optional, anyway.
On my later playthroughs, I just did some precaution: Whenever I'm at the hunters dream and have spare blood echoes, I spent them for blood vials and silver bullets before re-entering the waking world again. So I'm as empty as possible before continuing. This rises my stock of blood vials far into the three digit area pretty fast. So even if I struggle with a certain boss, I have quite the buffer left. Of course, you can't do that at the beginning in central yharnam. But it's not necessary there, as most monsters drop a shit load of heal items there, anyway. I suppose, that's how the developers designed it. You can spent all leftover blood echoes for vials, but at the beginning, where they are still too expensive, you just get them dropped.
But the point is you dont have to farm them. You can just buy em. You were kind of incorrect in your video among few other things.
Also when I played through BB I thought the same at first but later it made sense to me. Having no self replenishing healing items brought another layer of RPG mechanic in to the game. I kinda liked it because of it. Made the game more difficult. And after a while enemies stop dropping vial so frequently too, so the game forces you to move on and not grind.
+Kimchi I'm not the author of this vid
The tone of Bloodborne is one of the things I absolutely love about the game.
This video is a complete joke. Don't bash a game that you CLEARLY haven't finished. The concept of magic has not been ditched in Bloodborne, there are weapons that take your health to transform (magic), and there's also Hunter Tools such as the Augur of Ebrietas, A Call Beyond, and Accursed Brew that are definitely magical. Secondly, Bloodborne does not take place in Yharnam all throughout the game. There's the Forbidden Woods, Hemwick Charnel Lane, Cainhurst Castle, the Nightmares (DLC and Mensis) and Yahar'gul.
It just goes to show that your video is incredibly inaccurate. I mean, imagine someone wanted to buy one of these games and came to your video thinking it was a good comparison, only for you to say biased statements and talk about a game that you clearly haven't played enough. You'd be feeding them false information.
Take down this video, it's an embarassment.
Agree. This legit made me angry. Stopped the video at 3:20.