As someone that relies on GPUs for work-related tasks as much as I do gaming, I absolutely appreciate your focus on something besides gaming performance. Thank you!
Yours was the video I've been waiting for. My favorite line "if you're a gamer you're probably going to be disappointed because there are zero gaming benchmarks" You're my go to channel especially concerning gpu related stuff
@@daviddesrosiers1946Ok but that's physically how the bus width correlates with the capacity. Each vram chip is 32 bits wide and 2GB of capacity. To get to 16GB you need 8 chips, 8x32 = 256 bit bus. The 4090 has 24GB of vram with its wider 384bit bus for this exact reason, there is no 16GB 384 bit memory bus. The only way you're choking bandwidth with higher vram capacity is the 4060ti 16GB route where they clamshell 8 chips together which forces 2 chips to run through each 32bits of memory bus leaving only 16 bits per chip but that's going lower not higher which is just like running 4 ram sticks in dual channel, ur just forcing 4 sticks through 2 channels.
@@nimrodpaul6875 for future proof only, no increase in performance. If u consider 4060 then buy only 16gigs version. But still try to avoid that card imo
@@YaBoyAshyy totally.. they act like this is the dark ages for gaming. For people who make money from their GPU $800 is a steal. One job will pay for it, I’ll write it off and it’ll continue to make me money for another year or two. That’s a Renaissance.
One thing, its AD103 chip, but sadly they kept the capacity of 48mb of L3 cache and did not increase it to 64mb like on RTX 4080, I guess it would be too close to vanilla 4080 if they did that. Otherwise great review.
@@baoquoc3710 Yes, I know, but I see that people on the Internet are a little disappointed with the RTX 4070ti Super because they thought that for $800 they would get close to vanilla RTX 4080 performance and it would be almost the same, but in the end it didn't turn out that way. What I want to say is that the RTX 4070 ti Super is not meant to replace the RTX 4080, but I guess people expected that and that's why they're a little disappointed.
@@TheUltraMineboxMore cache is always better. The more often you're getting "cache hits" meaning the cores are pulling data from the cache rather than the memory the larger proportion of the time they're effectively running at a much higher ipc and this is mostly due to the access latency of the cache rather than the higher bandwidth. Even if it doesnt need more memory bandwidth, the gpu waiting on the 300ns of GDDR access time while it does about 3 clock cycles in a single nanosecond is a lot of wasted clock cycles everytime it has to wait on pulling data from the video memory. Hence more cache reduces how often this happens, in otherwords unlike vram bandwidth, when it comes to cache more is basically always better.
I bet it's the same scenario he explained at 22:20. Avoid 4080 and 4070ti because their performance predecessors (those are the 4070ti super and the 4070 super, respectively) have almost the same performance with a nice price cut.
@@Adri95704080 and 4070 ti super are not basically the same performance. Compute wise the 4070ti and 4070S basically are the same however the 4070S only gets one NVENC encoders while both of the 70ti's get 2.
@@matrobe4594 mines must be defective, I can hear specifically when the gpu fans come on and it’s a really different sound from the rest of my case fans, I’m ordering a new one in hopes mines is just faulty cause as it stands right now it’s way too loud for such a high end card.
I was abouta throw some shade cause in gaming this isn't all that much of an upgrade, especially for the price, but I'm glad to see the productivity tasks are looking good, awesome take on the content keep it up!
Likely because games rely more on the cache while content creation relies more on the memory bandwidth which is what got significantly better than the base 70ti while there was literally 0 extra cache.
Loved the video BUT you forgot to add towards the end that Zotac gives 3 years of warranty that can be extended to 2 more years by registering your Zotac GPU on their website. So with the Zotac card you get a total of 5 YEARS WARRANTY! Also, Zotac RMA experience for their GPUs is one of the best in the industry as they issue you a replacement GPU very fast once you have sent them copies of your Invoice and extended warranty confirmation email. Only EVGA, Rest In Peace, had better RMA experience than Zotac.
One note on Lightroom Classic and GPUs. I don't know if the tests include the AI Denoise feature. It's one of the main reasons that I am pushing my PC upgrade through (learning blender is the other one). Currently still on a Strix 1080Ti. Batching raw files through the AI denoise (amazing feature for people who shoot high ISO a lot like me) it'll lock the GPU into 99% utilisation at a rate of about 1hr per 100 files. I often deliver 200-300 files per event. I try and batch things before I go to gym or bed, because can't do anything that uses the GPU during that time. Maybe it's a non issue on 3000 series GPUs, but mine is getting it's ass kicked hard.
@@Alex-wg1mbTry to undervolt it for better power efficiency as its clocks have been pushed so high that it really hurts power efficiency. More obvious is the fact that the 4070super is equal in every way except the cores to the 70ti which the ti has 7% more of yet it's tdp is 30% higher. Why? Because the 4070 super did not have its clocks pushed crazy high like the 4070 ti and as a result just a small undervolt can reduce power by like 20-30% with no performance loss.
I got an MSI RTX 4070 Ti Super from MicroCenter's open-bos showcase today for $783, and installed it in my PC. I do not regret it. It maxxes out my 144 Hz monitor while playing Halo Infinite.
I upgraded from the 3070 ti and the performance boost is great. The 4060 Ti S has become my personal fave GPU. I dont care what they say, I absolutely love it for both gaming and video editing. Also, the fact that It will probably be (and hopefully) the only gpu that has both Ti AND super in its name, it has that uniqueness into it that makes it just little bit more special.
Ah well, I were to build a system for Blender today 4070TI Super would probably be my choice. Can't forget the 4080 since it's been in my system for about 9 months now - it was an extravagant purchase but has performed flawlessly so far and I don't regret it one bit.
I just ordered the 4070 TU Super, bit pricey but at the end of the day its a premium card and it will not easily lose its value. I might return it depending on how the 4080 super looks like compared to price and performance buts that's one week more
@@shane527x The big mistery around 4080 Super is not its performance (which will be slightly above the 4080) but whether it will be widely available at/close to the 1K MSRP. Some voiced suspisions that it won't.
Great video as always. I am tempted to buy the 4070 TI Super but am waiting to see your review on the 4080 Super. Is the $200 price difference worth it to get the 4080 Super? Which one has the best bang for its buck, price for performance?
25% higher price while giving same amount of V-Ram and less than 25% higher performances. I guess the answer Is easy when it comes to price/performances.
@@OceansUnknownwithToddKortte how’s it doing for your it’s overkill for 1440p for me but I don’t feel like getting a 4k monitor it’s very good for 4k too
@@Young_PresleyOfficial I rendered a video with my old GPU, an EVGA Geforce GTX1070 (a beast of a GPU for its time) vs the AERO Gigabyte 4080 Super. The 1070 rendered in 6min 45 sec. The 4080 did it in 3min.
Steve at HUB said it best. VRAM won't affect framerates much and the ONLY way to judge is to look at texture quality easily demonstrated in games like Halo Infinite at 4K max settings. A 12GB GPU will struggle and look bad even though the framerates for the Super and Non-Super would be the same. VRAM is not about more FPS but better quality textures!
Assuming one can afford the $200 price increase, I'm guessing I should buy the 4070 TI Super vs. lower memory 4070 cards because of it's 16GB of VRAM. It will speed up some editing tasks and extend the life of the investment. Please confirm.
I have a discount waiting to be used. Which card would you get, the 4070 Ti Super (approx. $703), 4080 Super (approx. $878), or 7900 XTX (approx. $835)? Prices are with taxes paid & using my discount.
i need help. so im wondering if i should pay 550 for intel i7 13700k or 400 for the i9 12900k. I will be using it for gaming COD as well as streaming it, and editing 4k footage. i also was wondering if the extra 200 dollars is worth for the 4070ti super instead of the 4070 super for my needs.
Would a minisforum AR900i, paired 64gb of ram, fast SDD storage and a RTX4080 Super be sufficient for 3D content creation, specifically octane render, unreal engine and twinmotion. Looking forward to a response.
Seen a Video of yours where you communicated your dislike of the AMD Cards. Taken from the pure stats it doesn´t look bad though - so whats you cut on that? Did it change at all or are these just numbers? Cheers
This puts the mail in the coffin for me: I’m gonna wait to see the 4080S 🤣 Kind of shocking to see the AMD being preferred for video and photo editing since you couldn’t stand using the 7900XTX. What changed?
Do you think 4070 ti super is much bang for the buck compared to the 4080 super? im choosing between these two variant, 4070ti super non oc is $193 usd cheaper than the 4080 Super Colorful Vulcan S. which is a china GPU and it is the top of the line of that variant. Can you also make reviews for other brands Like Colorful PNY etc. because those brands are waaay cheaper that the asus, msi, gigabyte
Excellent. . . . Man I don't understand why AMD cant get the people in the Driver Development Department to do a better job! Great hardware but their software leaves a lot on the table.
As a 3D artist, I must thank you for this great video. It definitely isn't worth paying $1200 for a 4080 considering the performance difference, but what do you think about the 4080 Super at $1000? Do you think it's worth it in that case?
Could you do a test to see whether more VRAM or a newer card is better for 3D rendering? Like is an RTX 3090 (24GB) better than RTX 4080 (16GB) or vice versa.
RTX 4080 will be faster in rendering than RTX 3090, RTX 3090 is probably fast as 4070-4070Ti in rendering If you are using a lot of 4k textures and scene won't fit in 16GB VRAM buffer then RTX 4090 would be probably best upgrade to you or of you are having RTX 3090 then wait for RTX 4090 or wait for 5090? I wanted get as well RTX 4090 but decided to wait for 5090 More VRAM will be better solution at least in most of rendering software as there are not many renderers which use Out of core memory(if you run out of memory it will use RAM), I think only Octane use that and Redshift probably, Cycles doesn't use Out of core memory
Good job. The price difference between 4070ti super and 4080 is not that big But the price difference also matters because money doesn't fall from the sky
@@anitaremenarova6662 I am very angry $800 x 1.79 is not equal to 2000 900$ for an ASUS TUF OC is not even a price but it will be above that This is crazy
I just love that beformance 😁 Great reviews man,this is actually only real review of this card so far,not just random numbers on screen and counting vram a bus.
So I've got a 7900xtx red devil and I'm pretty new to content creating. This maybe a dumb question but is a 4070ti Super good enough for creators, should I get a 4080 Super instead or should I just stick to my 7900xtx? To clarify I'm not looking to be a streamer. More video creating like reviews etc. I'm not looking to spend 2k on a 4090 though.
There’s a review of the 7900XTX on this channel that you might want to check out😊 You might not need to get another GPU at all unless you need to work with 3D.
@hjd9157 I've watched the review u mentioned and literally the only thing the 7900xtx excells vs Nvidia is Photoshop. Everything else Nvidia is better. So I'm bummed atm that I even bought the 7900xtx and I'm as we speak trying to sell or trade for a 4080 or a 4080 super with somebody that's more a gamer and could use some better performance in gaming unless they fully rely on Ray Tracing and DLSS3.
@@nielsonandrade5440no amd for content creation is far behind currently unfortunately. They are only very competitive in the most known use case of a gpu, gaming. Everything else is Nvidia altho intel at its price tiers are just as competitive as nvidia now generally in content creation and with more vram.
can you check with Nvidia why the prices in Greece are above 1000 euros and not msrp??? AMD is has much more compeling price to performance cards in that category
I am building my first PC, switching from Mac, for video editing in PPro and AE. Do you think it's a better option to go with 4070 super instead of 4070ti super if my budget is 1,5k to 2k $? Is it better to invest in much more ram and maybe stronger cpu? I was thinking about going with i7 14700k and 32gigs...
@@LOLJeezy Yeaah that's for sure, i just wanted to know what is the best option for the video editing case, cuz i don't wanna overspend if not necessary😅
I have i7 13700k and rtx 4070 ti and no problems editing files of sony a7iv 4k 60 10 bits for after effects have more vram is better so 4070 súper will be the right choice . I don't use too much AF but premiere and davinci resolve yes.
If you can return it sure. I got my 4070 ti in November for around $720, so while it would be nice to return it and get this, I would also be paying more
4070 Ti Super is 48mb of l3 cache only, your video is misleading. and where are the real life tests? the 4080 is still NOTICEABLE faster than 4070 Ti Super. The 4070 Ti Super is closer to 4070 Ti then 4080.
AMD was crushing NVidia in $500 - $1000 cards, DOUBLING Nvidia sales at mindfactory on black friday, SAME dollars per card so ASPs would be HIGHER excluding 4090s! This release from NVidia is NVidia desperately yelping, UNCLE!
Honestly just kept it simple and move the 4070ti sold as 4070 super and original 4080 sold as 4070ti super to keep it simple not build something new and just downscale a 4090 board as a 4080 super with 20gb of vram (320 bit bus) but Nvidia continues to be greedy.
12 GB cards shouldn't be made in 2023. 16 should be the standard and only goes up from that point what a joke. AMD is great until any Ray tracing happens it falls on its face.
Great Review !! as always TechNotice The is would be my fist GPU as a first time builder but I am still not 100% sure on which I will going for I am looking at Nvidia mainly because I am planning on doing so 3D workloads on my GPU and team green seems to be the best for this. The 4070 TI Super seems like an attractive buy at ~$800 USD but look at amazon selection it's really between $830-$860. I feel like if I can afford to save up and get the 4070 Ti Super since I already beyond decent price to performace budget GPU at below $600 selection, why not just go bigger since 800 isn't too far 1000 for the 4080 super with more performance head room. I feel like the 4070 TI Super is badly priced I feel like it should have be a $650-$700 MSRP I like AMD offering if I am planning on gaming and photo and video editing only and prices seem within reason: 7800xt - $500-$570 7900xt - $710-$760 which has 20GB VRAM Another thing is AMD power consumption is high, where I am location price per KWH is expensive. My power target for the GPU is 250-300 watts maximum and Nvidia excel in this area. Any opinions on this anyone?
@hpotter Yeah. the VRAM amount would be the same at 16GB however it would be faster. The 4080 Super would actually be in the 80 series, unlike the 4070 TI super that trying to be on paper. I am not happy that for $1000 the 4080 Super is still 16GB, it really should have been 20GB. Looking at the pricing $800 vs $1000 is not a huge difference when shopping at this price point. Waiting on the 4080 Super reviews on performance to see if the extra $200 would just be a waste or if there is a decent uplift.
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FYI the base score on all the benchmarks is done on the ROG STRIX 4070ti SUPER! 😊😊
Waiting for white GPU of those ❤
As someone that relies on GPUs for work-related tasks as much as I do gaming, I absolutely appreciate your focus on something besides gaming performance. Thank you!
Same. Shame this channel has technical specs errors too often.
Yours was the video I've been waiting for. My favorite line "if you're a gamer you're probably going to be disappointed because there are zero gaming benchmarks"
You're my go to channel especially concerning gpu related stuff
Some corrections, the L2 cache hasn't been increased it's still 48mb and the base bandwidth is 672 not 716 like the 4080.
This "Finally Nvidia gives us 16GB vram.." sounds like Apple getting into usb-c after years 😂 what a joke
Still choking that VRAM with a bus skinnier than a nineties super model.
nvidia give you less vram so you upgrade more often
@@daviddesrosiers1946Ok but that's physically how the bus width correlates with the capacity. Each vram chip is 32 bits wide and 2GB of capacity. To get to 16GB you need 8 chips, 8x32 = 256 bit bus. The 4090 has 24GB of vram with its wider 384bit bus for this exact reason, there is no 16GB 384 bit memory bus. The only way you're choking bandwidth with higher vram capacity is the 4060ti 16GB route where they clamshell 8 chips together which forces 2 chips to run through each 32bits of memory bus leaving only 16 bits per chip but that's going lower not higher which is just like running 4 ram sticks in dual channel, ur just forcing 4 sticks through 2 channels.
Noob here,, isn't the 4060 16gb a waste of time? Can it really take advantage of those 16gigs?
@@nimrodpaul6875 for future proof only, no increase in performance. If u consider 4060 then buy only 16gigs version. But still try to avoid that card imo
The good news for content creators is this card is being lambasted by gamers. Stock should never run out and we may see price cuts.
Makes me happy that so many people believe GPUs are only for gaming 😂
@@YaBoyAshyy totally.. they act like this is the dark ages for gaming. For people who make money from their GPU $800 is a steal. One job will pay for it, I’ll write it off and it’ll continue to make me money for another year or two. That’s a Renaissance.
One thing, its AD103 chip, but sadly they kept the capacity of 48mb of L3 cache and did not increase it to 64mb like on RTX 4080, I guess it would be too close to vanilla 4080 if they did that. Otherwise great review.
Its still 256 bit bus though, memory wont be a bottleneck for the core
The 4080 Super already took care of that, more powerful and -200$ compared to OG 4080
@@baoquoc3710 Yes, I know, but I see that people on the Internet are a little disappointed with the RTX 4070ti Super because they thought that for $800 they would get close to vanilla RTX 4080 performance and it would be almost the same, but in the end it didn't turn out that way.
What I want to say is that the RTX 4070 ti Super is not meant to replace the RTX 4080, but I guess people expected that and that's why they're a little disappointed.
@@sjuric2435 I mean, you can still get basically stock 4080 performance when you overclock a good model with decent max power limit.
@@TheUltraMineboxMore cache is always better. The more often you're getting "cache hits" meaning the cores are pulling data from the cache rather than the memory the larger proportion of the time they're effectively running at a much higher ipc and this is mostly due to the access latency of the cache rather than the higher bandwidth. Even if it doesnt need more memory bandwidth, the gpu waiting on the 300ns of GDDR access time while it does about 3 clock cycles in a single nanosecond is a lot of wasted clock cycles everytime it has to wait on pulling data from the video memory. Hence more cache reduces how often this happens, in otherwords unlike vram bandwidth, when it comes to cache more is basically always better.
Great to see someone focused on productivity performance. Now we need a 4070 super vs 4070 ti super.
I bet it's the same scenario he explained at 22:20. Avoid 4080 and 4070ti because their performance predecessors (those are the 4070ti super and the 4070 super, respectively) have almost the same performance with a nice price cut.
@@Adri95704080 and 4070 ti super are not basically the same performance. Compute wise the 4070ti and 4070S basically are the same however the 4070S only gets one NVENC encoders while both of the 70ti's get 2.
I would like to see a weaker gpu in these comparisons. Maybe RTX 3060, as a baseline
Upvoting this. It's good too see comparison with older popular gpu to see how much difference
this
Upgraded from rtx 2060 strix to an asus rog strix 4070 ti super and i am happy with it! Love this card.
Can you hear the gpu fans getting loud when it starts spinning?
@@iKayorei No i can't.
@@matrobe4594 mines must be defective, I can hear specifically when the gpu fans come on and it’s a really different sound from the rest of my case fans, I’m ordering a new one in hopes mines is just faulty cause as it stands right now it’s way too loud for such a high end card.
@@iKayorei Probably faulty sensors. Try to set a custom fan curve in MSI afterburner if still loud send your card back for a new one.
I was abouta throw some shade cause in gaming this isn't all that much of an upgrade, especially for the price, but I'm glad to see the productivity tasks are looking good, awesome take on the content keep it up!
Likely because games rely more on the cache while content creation relies more on the memory bandwidth which is what got significantly better than the base 70ti while there was literally 0 extra cache.
Loved the video BUT you forgot to add towards the end that Zotac gives 3 years of warranty that can be extended to 2 more years by registering your Zotac GPU on their website.
So with the Zotac card you get a total of 5 YEARS WARRANTY!
Also, Zotac RMA experience for their GPUs is one of the best in the industry as they issue you a replacement GPU very fast once you have sent them copies of your Invoice and extended warranty confirmation email.
Only EVGA, Rest In Peace, had better RMA experience than Zotac.
One note on Lightroom Classic and GPUs. I don't know if the tests include the AI Denoise feature. It's one of the main reasons that I am pushing my PC upgrade through (learning blender is the other one). Currently still on a Strix 1080Ti. Batching raw files through the AI denoise (amazing feature for people who shoot high ISO a lot like me) it'll lock the GPU into 99% utilisation at a rate of about 1hr per 100 files. I often deliver 200-300 files per event. I try and batch things before I go to gym or bed, because can't do anything that uses the GPU during that time.
Maybe it's a non issue on 3000 series GPUs, but mine is getting it's ass kicked hard.
got mine this morning! pretty excited
How did you get it already?
Great video but if you have a RTX3090 and doing mid to heavy 3D rendering stick with the RTX3090 (as 24 GIG VRAM is king in 3D".
Agree. Personally I bought 4070ti for my specifics. Gpu is extremely power efficient and paid for itself in 1.5 months
@@Alex-wg1mbTry to undervolt it for better power efficiency as its clocks have been pushed so high that it really hurts power efficiency. More obvious is the fact that the 4070super is equal in every way except the cores to the 70ti which the ti has 7% more of yet it's tdp is 30% higher. Why? Because the 4070 super did not have its clocks pushed crazy high like the 4070 ti and as a result just a small undervolt can reduce power by like 20-30% with no performance loss.
thank god for your channel, so annoying to see benchmark videos only do video games
I got an MSI RTX 4070 Ti Super from MicroCenter's open-bos showcase today for $783, and installed it in my PC. I do not regret it. It maxxes out my 144 Hz monitor while playing Halo Infinite.
I upgraded from the 3070 ti and the performance boost is great. The 4060 Ti S has become my personal fave GPU. I dont care what they say, I absolutely love it for both gaming and video editing. Also, the fact that It will probably be (and hopefully) the only gpu that has both Ti AND super in its name, it has that uniqueness into it that makes it just little bit more special.
Dude gotta benchmarks of games too. No excuses lol 😅
Would only raising the power limit have the desired effect. Just raising the power limit would only allow the card to stabilize it core clock output.
8:08 you got rtx 4070 ti super's memory bandwidth wrong mate, please make correction 😌
Thank you for the creator focused review, was very helpful!
Ah well, I were to build a system for Blender today 4070TI Super would probably be my choice. Can't forget the 4080 since it's been in my system for about 9 months now - it was an extravagant purchase but has performed flawlessly so far and I don't regret it one bit.
I just ordered the 4070 TU Super, bit pricey but at the end of the day its a premium card and it will not easily lose its value. I might return it depending on how the 4080 super looks like compared to price and performance buts that's one week more
@@shane527x The big mistery around 4080 Super is not its performance (which will be slightly above the 4080) but whether it will be widely available at/close to the 1K MSRP.
Some voiced suspisions that it won't.
Great video as always. I am tempted to buy the 4070 TI Super but am waiting to see your review on the 4080 Super. Is the $200 price difference worth it to get the 4080 Super? Which one has the best bang for its buck, price for performance?
25% higher price while giving same amount of V-Ram and less than 25% higher performances. I guess the answer Is easy when it comes to price/performances.
Bro the 4080 super is way better DONT get the 4070 ti super it’s a waste of your money might aswell get the 4080 super
@@Young_PresleyOfficial I ended up buying the 4080 Super. I figured it would be easier to resell when I am ready for an upgrade.
@@OceansUnknownwithToddKortte how’s it doing for your it’s overkill for 1440p for me but I don’t feel like getting a 4k monitor it’s very good for 4k too
@@Young_PresleyOfficial I rendered a video with my old GPU, an EVGA Geforce GTX1070 (a beast of a GPU for its time) vs the AERO Gigabyte 4080 Super. The 1070 rendered in 6min 45 sec. The 4080 did it in 3min.
Steve at HUB said it best. VRAM won't affect framerates much and the ONLY way to judge is to look at texture quality easily demonstrated in games like Halo Infinite at 4K max settings. A 12GB GPU will struggle and look bad even though the framerates for the Super and Non-Super would be the same. VRAM is not about more FPS but better quality textures!
Does anyone know when we can get the proart cards?
The RTX4080 has dual NVENC top/bottom split encoding. Does the RXT4070TI Super have that or is it still reserved for the RTX4080 and RTX4090?
I heard the 4070 has single and the Ti variants have dual
yea the frame pacing is beautiful on the 4080
All the 70ti's and above get dual NVENC encoders using nvidias own spec table. None of the 70's and below super or not, however, get both encoders.
1 month later and the value proposition against the 4080 Super is a very different consideration.
Assuming one can afford the $200 price increase, I'm guessing I should buy the 4070 TI Super vs. lower memory 4070 cards because of it's 16GB of VRAM.
It will speed up some editing tasks and extend the life of the investment. Please confirm.
I sold my 3080ti for 550$ and bought the 4070ti super for 650$. Nice bump in performance.
I was able to get the White Aero 4070ti S, it was the last one at microcenter. Paired up with 5800x3D it's 🔥
I have a discount waiting to be used. Which card would you get, the 4070 Ti Super (approx. $703), 4080 Super (approx. $878), or 7900 XTX (approx. $835)?
Prices are with taxes paid & using my discount.
Loved the vibe for this one
i need help. so im wondering if i should pay 550 for intel i7 13700k or 400 for the i9 12900k. I will be using it for gaming COD as well as streaming it, and editing 4k footage. i also was wondering if the extra 200 dollars is worth for the 4070ti super instead of the 4070 super for my needs.
I'm getting the 14700 but tweaking it, so undervolting it.
Would a minisforum AR900i, paired 64gb of ram, fast SDD storage and a RTX4080 Super be sufficient for 3D content creation, specifically octane render, unreal engine and twinmotion. Looking forward to a response.
where Proart? :(
Watching this with zero budget 😭😭
I love my 4070ti Super. I considered the 4080 but it would have required me to upgrade my PSU as well. The 4070ti Super is better value.
Very excited for the amazing information you provide in your videos💥💥
Seen a Video of yours where you communicated your dislike of the AMD Cards.
Taken from the pure stats it doesn´t look bad though - so whats you cut on that?
Did it change at all or are these just numbers?
Cheers
This puts the mail in the coffin for me: I’m gonna wait to see the 4080S 🤣
Kind of shocking to see the AMD being preferred for video and photo editing since you couldn’t stand using the 7900XTX. What changed?
can you mix two types of graphic cards so that you can choose to use the intel card for creative cloud and say and nvidia card for blender?
Sorry to ask you, but when you said "7900xt can be more expensive(...)" what did you mean? 7900 xt (even red devil) is below MSRP of 4070tis.
Do you think 4070 ti super is much bang for the buck compared to the 4080 super? im choosing between these two variant, 4070ti super non oc is $193 usd cheaper than the 4080 Super Colorful Vulcan S. which is a china GPU and it is the top of the line of that variant. Can you also make reviews for other brands Like Colorful PNY etc. because those brands are waaay cheaper that the asus, msi, gigabyte
Excellent. . . . Man I don't understand why AMD cant get the people in the Driver Development Department to do a better job! Great hardware but their software leaves a lot on the table.
Asus ProArt 4070 ti Super will be released on the market?
Good question.
I just did the math with your previous video, For davinci Resolve, the 4070S is 95% the performance of the TiSuper at 75% cost, no brainer
I went the cheaper ASUS TUF the price increase for the rog STRIX was more than I liked. I doubt performance will be all that differnet
It´s safe to say here that size actually does matter!
As a 3D artist, I must thank you for this great video. It definitely isn't worth paying $1200 for a 4080 considering the performance difference, but what do you think about the 4080 Super at $1000? Do you think it's worth it in that case?
Depends, you'll be gaining like 13% more performance for 25% more money with no extra future-proofing that premium should come with.
Looks like I’ll get a 7900 XT, but I’ll wait until the 4080 super release to see where prices settle
Same here but I'm looking at 7900xtx, I'll wait for 4080 super
Can it run Crysis?
Could you do a test to see whether more VRAM or a newer card is better for 3D rendering? Like is an RTX 3090 (24GB) better than RTX 4080 (16GB) or vice versa.
Done it, try to search for the video(s) on the channel. See the latest all GPUs tested. :)
RTX 4080 will be faster in rendering than RTX 3090, RTX 3090 is probably fast as 4070-4070Ti in rendering
If you are using a lot of 4k textures and scene won't fit in 16GB VRAM buffer then RTX 4090 would be probably best upgrade to you or of you are having RTX 3090 then wait for RTX 4090 or wait for 5090?
I wanted get as well RTX 4090 but decided to wait for 5090
More VRAM will be better solution at least in most of rendering software as there are not many renderers which use Out of core memory(if you run out of memory it will use RAM), I think only Octane use that and Redshift probably, Cycles doesn't use Out of core memory
@@theTechNotice oh awesome! I’ll be sure to watch that one! Thank you for all your hard work 😊
thanks to u! now i just got the card! the heat sink is freaking awesome! bulky and robust! (asus)
The coolers on 2 of those supers seem way too big for what they need
Good job.
The price difference between 4070ti super and 4080 is not that big
But the price difference also matters because money doesn't fall from the sky
It's 400 bucks, that is big.
@@anitaremenarova6662 I am very angry
$800 x 1.79 is not equal to 2000
900$ for an ASUS TUF OC is not even a price but it will be above that
This is crazy
I just love that beformance 😁
Great reviews man,this is actually only real review of this card so far,not just random numbers on screen and counting vram a bus.
anyone knows if there will be a rog strix version in white?
So I've got a 7900xtx red devil and I'm pretty new to content creating. This maybe a dumb question but is a 4070ti Super good enough for creators, should I get a 4080 Super instead or should I just stick to my 7900xtx? To clarify I'm not looking to be a streamer. More video creating like reviews etc.
I'm not looking to spend 2k on a 4090 though.
There’s a review of the 7900XTX on this channel that you might want to check out😊 You might not need to get another GPU at all unless you need to work with 3D.
@hjd9157 I've watched the review u mentioned and literally the only thing the 7900xtx excells vs Nvidia is Photoshop. Everything else Nvidia is better. So I'm bummed atm that I even bought the 7900xtx and I'm as we speak trying to sell or trade for a 4080 or a 4080 super with somebody that's more a gamer and could use some better performance in gaming unless they fully rely on Ray Tracing and DLSS3.
Thank you. 👍
Nice explanation ❤
Music at 1000% ?
can you please do gpu benchmark for vMix?
70tis is 48mb cache still it didn’t increase to 64 the some as the 4080
Goodnight
some help... I have a 10GB RTX 3080, is it a good choice to change to a 16GB 4070 TI super??
or migrate to RX 7900 xtx 24GB ..........I have doubts, at 4080 the price is quite high
@@nielsonandrade5440no amd for content creation is far behind currently unfortunately. They are only very competitive in the most known use case of a gpu, gaming. Everything else is Nvidia altho intel at its price tiers are just as competitive as nvidia now generally in content creation and with more vram.
can you check with Nvidia why the prices in Greece are above 1000 euros and not msrp??? AMD is has much more compeling price to performance cards in that category
It looks like strix fans are also bigger?
it has only 48 MB of L2 cache not 64 MB
I am building my first PC, switching from Mac, for video editing in PPro and AE. Do you think it's a better option to go with 4070 super instead of 4070ti super if my budget is 1,5k to 2k $? Is it better to invest in much more ram and maybe stronger cpu? I was thinking about going with i7 14700k and 32gigs...
You’re gonna want to invest in good drives
@@LOLJeezy Yeaah that's for sure, i just wanted to know what is the best option for the video editing case, cuz i don't wanna overspend if not necessary😅
I have i7 13700k and rtx 4070 ti and no problems editing files of sony a7iv 4k 60 10 bits for after effects have more vram is better so 4070 súper will be the right choice . I don't use too much AF but premiere and davinci resolve yes.
@@NAM3L3555 Thankss for the advice brother, appreciate it 😄💪
And what if I bought a 4070 Ti, do you recommend returning it and getting a Ti Super?
Man I was wondering the same thing.
If you can return it sure. I got my 4070 ti in November for around $720, so while it would be nice to return it and get this, I would also be paying more
@jmun3688 yeah I bought mine for 730, but am considering buying if the ti super will last me a couple yrs more
@@hpotter7210 if you can return it I probably would. The extra vram is going to help its longevity
@jmun3688 yeah, thats what I was thinking. It's a shame gaming performance isn't much higher
Too bad they don’t have that strix In white
Well... 16 gigs for this price is still a bullshit deal.
The 4080 super will blow it away. So nothing is future proof. Lol. 😂
AMD is years behind in AI, just replaced my 7800xt for the 4070super Ti, for now if you want to use AI, you need to stick with Nvidia, because of CUDA
You sound so northern!! 🤣
This is the most construstive review I have watched
4070 Ti Super is 48mb of l3 cache only, your video is misleading. and where are the real life tests? the 4080 is still NOTICEABLE faster than 4070 Ti Super. The 4070 Ti Super is closer to 4070 Ti then 4080.
AMD was crushing NVidia in $500 - $1000 cards, DOUBLING Nvidia sales at mindfactory on black friday, SAME dollars per card so ASPs would be HIGHER excluding 4090s! This release from NVidia is NVidia desperately yelping, UNCLE!
Just bought the zotac before watching
Honestly just kept it simple and move the 4070ti sold as 4070 super and original 4080 sold as 4070ti super to keep it simple not build something new and just downscale a 4090 board as a 4080 super with 20gb of vram (320 bit bus) but Nvidia continues to be greedy.
Meh skip the entire generation. Till PCIe 5 cards and boards come round the workstation and desktop cards are crippled without nvlink.
No effing thx, I still has gtx 1080...
Why would you forget 4080 when it has more performance than 4070Ti SUPER? :DDD
12 GB cards shouldn't be made in 2023. 16 should be the standard and only goes up from that point what a joke. AMD is great until any Ray tracing happens it falls on its face.
At that price, buy a 4080 Super
But sadly those gpu cards only last 3 to 4 years.
Why?
Nvidia still scamming. Hey, kids, here's aome more VRAM! It's still on the needle narrow bus, but hey kids, more VRAM!
What? The base bandwidth is close to 700 and you can easily overclock it into the 800s.
So basically......get this card if your a creator. Don't get this card if all you do is game.
its junk, dont bother if you have a 3090-4070ti already
Hey love you're channel but it feels like you're selling out a little lately.
Could you unpack what do you mean? :)
Yay! Only the worst release of all the cards.. 4070 to super is a joke
The 4070 Ti super is NOT the card to buy. The AMD 7900XT beats it in Most games unless you have to use Ray Tracing.
Move over. What’s the focus on this channel is creators. Not gamers.
Great Review !! as always TechNotice
The is would be my fist GPU as a first time builder but I am still not 100% sure on which I will going for I am looking at Nvidia mainly because I am planning on doing so 3D workloads on my GPU and team green seems to be the best for this.
The 4070 TI Super seems like an attractive buy at ~$800 USD but look at amazon selection it's really between $830-$860.
I feel like if I can afford to save up and get the 4070 Ti Super since I already beyond decent price to performace budget GPU at below $600 selection, why not just go bigger since 800 isn't too far 1000 for the 4080 super with more performance head room.
I feel like the 4070 TI Super is badly priced I feel like it should have be a $650-$700 MSRP
I like AMD offering if I am planning on gaming and photo and video editing only and prices seem within reason:
7800xt - $500-$570
7900xt - $710-$760 which has 20GB VRAM
Another thing is AMD power consumption is high, where I am location price per KWH is expensive. My power target for the GPU is 250-300 watts maximum and Nvidia excel in this area.
Any opinions on this anyone?
What would be the difference between 4080 and 4070 ti Super for 3d workloads? They both have 16gb vram but I'm not sure what role vram plays in 3d
@hpotter
Yeah. the VRAM amount would be the same at 16GB however it would be faster. The 4080 Super would actually be in the 80 series, unlike the 4070 TI super that trying to be on paper.
I am not happy that for $1000 the 4080 Super is still 16GB, it really should have been 20GB.
Looking at the pricing $800 vs $1000 is not a huge difference when shopping at this price point.
Waiting on the 4080 Super reviews on performance to see if the extra $200 would just be a waste or if there is a decent uplift.
4070 ti super better then 4080?? nope...not in real life
It's better for the money and will continue being so even after 4080 super release.
im Europe 4070ti super starts at 1100 euros .
so bad
in czech its 900 eur
Let’s wait for it to drop over the year
It depends on the state,here in Italy the mrsp price i 909€ which most of the cards are