I'd take that 550, can plow snow, deliver soil to anyone and use bed to haul firewood or salt for commercial clients. Thats what I use mine for.....Everything!
Disney Scoop, if used for commerce that correct. Brian with his F250 towing his trailer needs DOT numbers. He just hasn't gotten caught yet. Hopefully he lets us know how much that ticket cost.
Also, with a Dump of any size it draws the attention of Officer Average. its the low hanging fruit. Pickups, they dont all know the details. A checkpoint will nab you for sure though if its required for intrastate in your state.
f250 or f350 with dump trailer is the way to go in my opinion. Dump trailer come in all size and there lower to ground to load material and they come in hand as equipment trailer because the dump trailer comes with heavy duty ramps to haul around a skid steer and heavy equipment.
I personally would chose the dump truck. With a dump truck you have room to grow. Not saying you can’t with the 350. With a dump truck you can fit into tighter areas. Also with the dump truck you can get a dump trailer and buy a bobcat. Load the bob cat up on the dump trailer while loading gravel in the truck bed. Like I was saying. Just plenty of room to grow
Brian have him look in to getting a goose neck dump trailer they handle and pull so much better and u can get them in tighter spots because the pivot point is further forward and also with the hitch in the bed it putts the load on the truck further forward and the suspension isnt straining as much eather
I own a dump truck and would recommend an F250 or 350 with a dump trailer. As everyone else has pointed out, you can haul a much larger capacity with the trailer, disconnect it when not needed, and you will spend far less. If you need the towing capacity of the 550 well then you can justify it.
Go with gas motor and stainless dump. Dump trailers are nice but with dump truck you can haul material and equipment at the same time. Nice for owner operators.
Good to see Brandon growing quick. I dont know his whole back story but it seems like he started landscaping late in life like I did (im 3 years in at 35) im making big jumps in a short period of time also and I can relate to the feeling.
I just custom built a 19 f350 with a 9 foot bed for my job municipality is what I am in. You can get rid of that backpack and put a longer dump on. All depends on the wheel base you want we need a small truck as we have small and tight access rds we get in to. Hopefully will have the truck first week in dec. no plow but it has the prep package on it.
Both setups are beneficial. The dump truck, like you said, is pretty much dedicated and the truck and trailer setup can be used for both personal and work. Depending on what trim level 250 or 350 you get with the dump trailer, the cost would be about the same, in my opinion
Our company has a F550 Crew Cab with a dump body. I am not sure the exact dimensions of the body but it will hold about 8-10 yards of mulch with no problem. I wish ours had some type of storage like this one to hold tools. It has a hassle to move to climb into the body to get be able to dump material. We also have a dump trailer but I find the truck to be more convenient. Our dump site can be tight at times and having to maneuver a trailer can be a pain.
I have 2016 f350 with the dump box the only thing wish I knew was you have to move the rear mud flap bracket back about a foot or when backing up in snow or anything the mud flaps can get sucked under. It cost me 500 hundred to get new flaps and bent back plus moving it back the foot I wanted.
I have a 2017 F550 with a PJ’s four ft sides and twelve ft long. Cool thing is the side door on bed. I haul five tons regularly. Great truck. I haul quarry products, materials,yard waste and trash. I pull a Kubota B26 a Takeuchi 230 and a Yanmar vio35. No problems
We run F250 single cab trucks with optional 6000lb fgvwr for carrying heavy plows. We run 6.2L gas engines too. We have two dump trailer and I'm not sure I'd ever consider a dump truck. Like others said, you can still have a normal truck at the end of the day. The only way a dump truck would be better is if you need the dump box while pulling your mowing trailer daily for clippings etc. Good luck with your choice!
If you’re mowing doing clean ups etc get the 350 and dump trailer, it will do you well and give you room to grow. If you’re doing hardscaping or delivering a lot of materials get the 550. You’ll never get close to gvwr on the 550 with grass or leaves or brush but it’s easy to overload anything smaller if you’re hauling 3/8” gravel or stone dust.
Great conversation. I struggle with this as well. For now went with dump trailer. $6600 and I can pull when I need it. Actually have a regular flatbed on my 3/4 ton. So I pull my dump trailer with it for landscaping. Have 2 places to load items. Blocks or materials on the truck, mulch or rock on the trailer. Also something I learned recently. Cab and chassis Ford's are detuned from the a standard f350 with the 6.7 . Nice truck though!
Just get a 1-Ton Pick up with long box, diesel. You can always decide if you want a dually or not. As for brand go look at all of them and choose the one you like best that fits you the most, after all it's pretty much your office.
Yes they are detuned I believe just on the horsepower side. I have 3 F450's and one F350 srw I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE them. I don't buy them for speed when I am pulling a trailer around all over the place. All of them have the 4:10 gears plenty of torque + plow package which you will want to get if you are the type that likes to plow. Also the F450's have better turning radius vs. the f250's-350's + much bigger and stronger front axles that own the road rather than politely roll along. lastly, I have heard nothing but great things about the new super duty trucks regardless of what one you choose from people that have had the pre 2017 models vs the 2017+ models FYI.
If you are looking to buy a new dump truck Chevy is coming out with their new 4500, 5500, and the 6500. I would test drive both before you buy. I have a dump trailer. If you buy one I would deffiniatly go with a PJ dump trailer. I've had one for 3 years now and no problems at all.
If your doing leaf clean ups or even collecting grass. This truck is the way to go. You can’t have debris in a dump trailer and equipment too. Both would be nice though.
If you're into Excavating go with a dump truck, if you're in the hauling leaves and debris a dump trailer would suit you better. Most of my dump sites you wouldn't be able to back a trailer in there! An f550 with a 12-foot dump box is worth a hundred grand up here in Canada. Thanks for sharing
If you're spending 60k on a truck spend a little more and get something you'll love and will make you the most money. We just purchased a '19 f550 6.7 chassis cab this spring and put on a custom aluminum split dump. Grand total was 77k and we can haul up to 18 yards of mulch, and do 2 deliveries at once. I'm not saying you need a split dump, as we mainly do mulch deliveries and installs, but you will be limited with that 9' low sided monroe dump.
Again, a grain of salt, go with the 250/350 with dump attachment. Keep the Chevy too!! This way you can have 2 everyday drivers, still be able to haul a ton, and even go with a dump trailer too for extra measure. If you're planning on starting to mow more, then add that gate attachment that the guy had at the GIE to the Chevy, and you'll have a mowing/landscape truck, and the 250/350 with the dump attachment for plow and pavers and so on.... Good luck either way, God bless you guys, and Greetings from Jersey buds!!!!!!
Get the F250 in the blue jean blue with the 7x16 dump trailer. It is better financially because then you don't have to buy two vechicles, one being the dump and the other being your personal.
Its actually worse. Putting miles on ur work truck for personal? Not smart. A truck is meant for work. The more personal miles u put, the more it has a chance of breaking down and for the wrong reasons.
I have been milling over the same thing lately. I have a 1500 chevy (that probably cant pull as much as Brandon's) and there isnt a whole lot i can really do with it. I've been looking at some used dump trucks and have seen some nice deals but 99% of them are 2 wheel drive. I dont want to get something that is liable to get me stuck some day, but then again I may get lucky and never get (badly) stuck with it. I have thought about getting a used 3/4 ton or a 1 ton and a dump trailer as well but thats more expense than i can afford as well. My biggest dilemma is that im just now honestly breaking even with my mowing business. this is my second year so im doing ok in that regard considering some people dont break even till their 5 year or so. I want to expand my business with the potential to plow snow and haul gravel and dirt ect as well as use the dump trailer/truck for my own job use. I really dont want to go into debt again but as they say, gotta spend money to make money right? Right...? I dont know its driving me crazy lol. One thing Brandon might consider is a roll off dump trailer with a flat bed. He could potentially do away with his utility trailer and just use the one trailer or at least use it for heavy equipment. I would be interested in one to haul like i said but also as a potential dumpster rental side hustle.
If your looking for a medium duty work truck that has a dump box or Maybe you don't even want a dump box but if you do I would go for a f-450 you get the heavy duty shocks and you get a little smaller truck body than even the f-550.
With an f250 normal truck; in the future if you buy toys or a camper, you can haul it with a comfort truck vs a dump truck especially on trips. A second vehicle probably costs more than a second trailer, especially since both will need weighted tags and major repairs vs a lifetime trailer tag and pretty much minor repairs. Biggest thing is having a bigger trailer always comes in handy in this industry. You could probably use a 350 with a 16' as well. You might can rent your dump trailer out for demo jobs as well.
We are a BOSS Plow dealer and I just finished Installing A V-plow and Vbx hopper spreader on that exact truck today!! Same bed ,same Buyers boxes (just steel not aluminum) . That's just ironic !!
Dump truck would be an awesome buy, but something to consider that I have had to put up with is we're you live. I run my own construction business and tow a 14' enclosed trailer with my F150. I thought about getting a van and have my truck but just starting out was not finicially smart to have two insurance payments and maintenance for two vehicles. Another thing to consider is your town/ county ordinances about commercial vehicles being parked at home. I got a notice saying I can't park my trailer in front of my house and had to start parking it off the side in the lawn. (I live on a dead end street) Also part of the code it "no commercial vehicle with decal or lettering", so a dump truck with decals would get you a hefty fine but a trailer can as well, but trailer can be stored out of the way or in a garage easier than a dump. My truck is also my personal go out with friends. If I had a van only, well, I'll always have my tools at least.
I'd go with a f250. Good rebates right now (approx 9-10k in rebates in my area) and plus you will have extra cab room and a nicer truck with more options than a basic WT. Plus a decent dump trailer for around the same price point. Just my opinion. Your biz and vision is whay counts in the end!
Have a 16ft dump. I love if but hydros are slow and really only holds 5yrd before the tires start to pinch. Had a lol over 5 yards of 3/4 inch stone on and had to shovel off since the hydros couldn't lift. For $8500 I figured it could lift and hold more than 5 yards
its not just the size of the dump bed, running a dump trailer over a dump truck, you have to consider that your dumping area length is much longer because the dumping height on the trailer is lower, you have more tires to replace, another mechanism to maintain, something else to pay taxes and registration on and its nowhere near as maneuverable. I almost bought a dump trailer also but considering everything just bought a dump truck and I daily it no problem too. Also, if you need more material than that delivered, just have someone else deliver it. I have a 10 yard body measured water level on one of my trucks and I still call other people to deliver material occasionally
I think it’s overkill man. You would be better off with a 250 or 350 with a nice dump trailer. Unless you are doing huge landscape installs with pavers or stuff like that, there really isn’t anything you need to haul that weighs more than what those can handle. Plus you can use a 250 or 350 for regular tasks as well
This is one of my biggest debates. I love my dump truck with central hydraulics and tail gate Salter in the winter. But find myself constantly borrowing my buddies 12 10k lbs dump trailer. I also didn’t believe it would haul 10k lbs until I loaded it up with 5 ton of gravel and tailgated a huge driveway
My old company truck was a 2011 F450 Dump truck 6.7L Powerstroke I wasn't impressed with it.. I rarely hauled anything and only towed skid steers occasionally.. But it just seemed like it lacked the power of a Duramax or Cummins .. Then at around 87k miles it blew up.. I was pretty much the only person that drove the truck and I took care of it because it was a nice truck and it was serviced according to a strict schedule.. They gave me a new truck a 2016 F250 lariat with the 6.2L Gas engine and it seems to have decent power.. * I should also mention that I'm not a fan of any particular manufacturer I like pretty much all trucks so I'm pretty fair when I tell people about them..
The difference in the suspension between the 250 and 350 is a very important upgrade if he's hauling anything like gravel or river rock it's spool heavy . I can only haul a 1/2 trailer of rock because of my truck
I’ve had a chance to use a new f550 with a dump bed. They’re okay, but I prefer the 94’ gmc 3500 dump bed. The only things the f550 had going for it was Bluetooth radio and it was 10+years newer.
That a contractor truck. Like concrete guy or commercial plowing. Get a landscape dump or big dump trailer. That’s gonna run $2000 month plus def fluid.
First time watcher here. What are going to be hauling? Gravel, trees, grass? That 550 will haul anything u can put in it and pull any trailer u want to put behind it. That being said , do you need that much truck? My dad just bought a used f350 with the v10 and put a 12ft dump box on it. He has been hauling gravel and pulls a 10ft dump trailer. He hauls about 3 to 4 yards of gravel in each. The 12ft box has enough room to haul more but he would be really over loading the truck. You can get used box trucks fairly cheap . Take the box off and put a dump box on it. I think my dad paid a round 7000 for the truck and then had to find the dump box. He is cheap so he wanted a used one to save money. If he would have gone with a new box he would have gotten a smaller one.
I’ve been doing landscaping for years. Fixed dump bed trucks are stupid. You have to lift debris so high in the air and it’s a back injury waiting to happen. Especially if your edging flower beds and have grass clumps to get rid of it’s impossible to put in there. Definitely get a F250 and a dump trailer. Haul so much more and safer to load. I got that setup and it’s great! Plus it’s a personal truck when I want it to be. If you do F550, look at a switch n go. Good luck.
I bought a 16ft Load Trail dump last spring and I love it. Built very well. I would definitely keep the utility trailer though because mowing out of a dump trailer is not fun haha.
MAn I got 50k in my ram 2500 diesel and its nice as heck. He should consider that and a nice dump trailer. Way more versitile. The 2500 could also be a good personal rig on the weekends.
I would go with a 250 or 350 with dump trailer for now so it can be a daily driver, then once you can afford a second vehicle for your business, get thew dump truck, because that has its uses too. Like if you want to bring a skid steer to a job and have something to haul the material away with too. Just my thoughts, can't go wrong wither way!
Two more reason for a trailer are you don't have you're extra back seat while using the dump truck for business or people and you've got to either have both trucks stocked with multiple sets of tools or constantly transfer tools between and we all know how well that works...
My dad always says you can't have a big enough truck or TRAILER. Trust me, get the truck and dump trailer and you will find it's more useful having a bigger bed for waste. I have a 10' dump trailer and regret not getting started least a 12. Keep the utility if you're still doing lawns. You can haul equipment with either and it's a pain in the arse to load unload without a proper ramp. Also, you get the dump truck and if you feel it up during a busy time and don't have time to unload, you've got to haul the extra weight everywhere which means more wear and fuel.
Bwise ultimate dump trailer. Very nice trailer. Also not sure if you guys are aware of this but the 2017 up f 450-550 cab and chassis. The motor is detuned (lower hp and tourque)than the f 250-350-450 pick ups. Just figured I would mention that men. Rock on👍
Here in California, every city has a commercial department police officer. I have a gmc 3500 diesel 12foot stake bed . Let me tell you....I have gotten pulled over by every city I drive thru. Beverly hills 2 times, Santa Monica 3 times, Culver city 8 times, and Inglewood 1 time . Plus c.h.p. has random checkpoints all over los Angeles . The only reason I haven't gotten a truck with a trailer is because parking here is hard to find and traffic is a nightmare. If it wasnt for those 2 reasons...I would just buy a truck with a trailer.
Pickup and dump trailer is so much more versatile for everyday use and landscaping. Unless you have daily work for a f550 dump truck I’d hold out on that. With the 550 you get into dot numbers, and depending on state law needing a cdl to tow anything behind it.
DOT numbers are no big deal, just go online and apply for one, they are free. Also, you need a cdl class A when trailering any weight over 10,001 lbs. Per federal regulations.
Absolutely gorgeous truck. That being said, he should go with a galvanized bed or an aluminum bed if he’s going to want it for a long time. Those steel beds rust so quickly and look bad after one year of use. I know the aluminum beds probably don’t hold as much but they make a lot of sense!
V 10 gasser F 350 cab and chassis with dump body. Save at least 10-15 grand over that truck and buy a dump trailer for extra capacity if needed. Better fuel mileage over the 4:88 or 5:13 the 550 has for gears. Diesel upgrade just is not worth it. You have to run them about 300 K to break even.
Check your states weight restrictions before you buy a 550, it can restrict you're towing capacity to where you would be able to tow more with a 2500 or 3500 if you don't have a CDL. If Brandon is running a one truck operation for sure go with the dump trailer, that's alo't of money to have wrapped up in one piece of equipment!!
The problem with simply going with a 250 or 350 is that you miss the versatility of having a dump truck. When you are working by yourself, a dump body on a truck allows you to pull a trailer with your equipment, mowers or a skid loader to the job site at the same time you bring your materials. With a dump trailer, it is going to take at least two trips, thereby negating the time savings of a dump trailer over your utility trailer.
Get the trailer, if the truck goes down, you are out of commission. With the trailer you have it no matter what truck you are running. It keeps you more flexable.
I’d go with a 450 or better. The main reason I’d go with a 450 over a 350 dually is the wide track front axle. You’ll get a much better turning radius. Also I’d go with something that has a larger cab. I’d get the at least the cab and a half. This way if you need to you can cram someone into the back seat. It would let you run a larger crew if needed. And not have to worry about a 2nd vehicle.
Look at a slightly used diesel you won’t be upside down the minute you turn out of the dealership. Not to mention the money you save would easy buy a good size dump trailer
The F550 is a beast of work truck! On the upside they're super maneuverable over a pickup and dump trailer. Down side would be the higher overhead, with bigger purchase price and more insurance cost ect. Also keep in mind the DOT regulations which can be a real hassle. At the end of the day you could adapt to either but I ❤ my F550
I’d definitely go dump truck-u can bring your mowing trailer and then with the dump truck u don’t need to make extra trips with a dump trailer to get equipment. Just my opinion
Do it do it pull the trigger. Good thing about the 550 if you need to get gravel or dirt you have plenty of truck. Need to balance how you use it for what you need.
I would not get the diesel unless you are putting some serious miles on it. The upfront cost for diesel doesn't make sense. Gas engines these days can pull a lot and pull it well. I would get the stake sides and not the contractor sides. You can get more material in it and brush/debris etc. my 2 cents. Good luck
Hey, I just remembered looking into Bwise trailers recently. Their Ultimate Dump Trailer is pretty BADA$$ compared to a lot of them if you go that route. Plus, it might be able to replace your utility trailer with it's unique ramp. I believe it's like $15k though. But it would possibly be the only trailer you'd need for years.
Really depends you go get f250 you're going to spend $60,000 and then you're going to go and buy a 14-16 ft dump trailer and you're spend another 12 or 15 grand so you're looking at like $75,000 or so when you could just spend 66 and get the dump truck would get a F-250 and a dump insert and you have 66,000 right there too
I dunno, if u go with the F450-550 dump box u could have a full dump box on the way to a job as well as a skidsteer or other equipment on the trailer... if you get the F250-350 u are always having to pull a trailer to use it for work and if ur taking materials as well as large equipment to a job your gonna take twice as many trips a lot more...... I would have thought you would still use the Chevy 1500 for a personal vehicle and then you could have the F550 dump for a work truck always with a trailer attached until you get to a job.... that is unless you were gonna trade that in...... just my thoughts
I agree with others who say go with a truck and a trailer set-up. Problem with the trailer set up you have extra maintenance. Those trailers break down and need constant attention.
I think one of the things that you may have overlooked the insurance on those things are outrageous and with dump trailer you'll save a lot of money and you'll get your personal truck you have 250 or 350 and be ahead of the ball game so dump trailer all the way. In a few years once you become more stable and you want to play with the big boys then go for a dump truck just my opinion good luck. FYI go to Kelly and Sons and get your dump trailer I'm sure Brian can get you a good deal...😊👍
I would get a 350 4x4 with the diesel, then get a dump trailer. You can always upgrade next year when you really need to. You might be able to do the same with a 250 vs. a 350, but not a 250 vs a 550.
Brandon do you have a cdl? You will need one with this truck... You should look into a hydro dump instead of electric dump you'll find you'll like it better. Had an electric and as it gets older it gets slower. Just so you know... I don't want to repeat what everyone else is saying before me... :)
Get a 350 DRW regular cab gas with a B-wise dump trailer it comes in 14-16 ft also it has a hydraulic lift gate that can be converted to a ramp, It is what I got cost of truck $ $40,000 Cost of trailer $16,000 for 16ft x 7ft
I'd take that 550, can plow snow, deliver soil to anyone and use bed to haul firewood or salt for commercial clients. Thats what I use mine for.....Everything!
With the dump truck the DOT is always on your ass, unhook the dump trailer and you have your truck back for personal use
exactly the route I went
Disney Scoop, if used for commerce that correct. Brian with his F250 towing his trailer needs DOT numbers. He just hasn't gotten caught yet. Hopefully he lets us know how much that ticket cost.
@@blk90s13 Intrastate that depends on your area.
Also, with a Dump of any size it draws the attention of Officer Average. its the low hanging fruit. Pickups, they dont all know the details. A checkpoint will nab you for sure though if its required for intrastate in your state.
Manorscape Gardening my point exactly
f250 or f350 with dump trailer is the way to go in my opinion. Dump trailer come in all size and there lower to ground to load material and they come in hand as equipment trailer because the dump trailer comes with heavy duty ramps to haul around a skid steer and heavy equipment.
That's if u got a guy to drive ur second truck with the equipment trailer.
I couldn't agree more my dump trailer can move my 773 bobcat with the dump trailer
Cab & Chassis with dump box And hydraulic dump trailer is by far the ultimate combination for hardscaping / Landscaping.
I personally would chose the dump truck. With a dump truck you have room to grow. Not saying you can’t with the 350. With a dump truck you can fit into tighter areas. Also with the dump truck you can get a dump trailer and buy a bobcat. Load the bob cat up on the dump trailer while loading gravel in the truck bed. Like I was saying. Just plenty of room to grow
Smart man
As long as the weight rating isn't over the legal restriction
Brian have him look in to getting a goose neck dump trailer they handle and pull so much better and u can get them in tighter spots because the pivot point is further forward and also with the hitch in the bed it putts the load on the truck further forward and the suspension isnt straining as much eather
I picked up a 2018 Ford 550 and put a Ampliroll Hooklift on it. I swapped out the dually's for super singles. I love it
I own a dump truck and would recommend an F250 or 350 with a dump trailer. As everyone else has pointed out, you can haul a much larger capacity with the trailer, disconnect it when not needed, and you will spend far less. If you need the towing capacity of the 550 well then you can justify it.
Go with gas motor and stainless dump. Dump trailers are nice but with dump truck you can haul material and equipment at the same time. Nice for owner operators.
Stainless steel? Or did you mean Aluminum dumper?
@@creativelandscapedesigns9493 Stainless steel. Not a big fan of aluminum dump bodies.
Cause the shitstroke is a money pit problem
Good to see Brandon growing quick. I dont know his whole back story but it seems like he started landscaping late in life like I did (im 3 years in at 35) im making big jumps in a short period of time also and I can relate to the feeling.
I just custom built a 19 f350 with a 9 foot bed for my job municipality is what I am in. You can get rid of that backpack and put a longer dump on. All depends on the wheel base you want we need a small truck as we have small and tight access rds we get in to. Hopefully will have the truck first week in dec. no plow but it has the prep package on it.
Both setups are beneficial. The dump truck, like you said, is pretty much dedicated and the truck and trailer setup can be used for both personal and work. Depending on what trim level 250 or 350 you get with the dump trailer, the cost would be about the same, in my opinion
Our company has a F550 Crew Cab with a dump body. I am not sure the exact dimensions of the body but it will hold about 8-10 yards of mulch with no problem. I wish ours had some type of storage like this one to hold tools. It has a hassle to move to climb into the body to get be able to dump material. We also have a dump trailer but I find the truck to be more convenient. Our dump site can be tight at times and having to maneuver a trailer can be a pain.
I have 2016 f350 with the dump box the only thing wish I knew was you have to move the rear mud flap bracket back about a foot or when backing up in snow or anything the mud flaps can get sucked under. It cost me 500 hundred to get new flaps and bent back plus moving it back the foot I wanted.
I have a 2017 F550 with a PJ’s four ft sides and twelve ft long. Cool thing is the side door on bed. I haul five tons regularly. Great truck. I haul quarry products, materials,yard waste and trash. I pull a Kubota B26 a Takeuchi 230 and a Yanmar vio35. No problems
We run F250 single cab trucks with optional 6000lb fgvwr for carrying heavy plows. We run 6.2L gas engines too. We have two dump trailer and I'm not sure I'd ever consider a dump truck. Like others said, you can still have a normal truck at the end of the day. The only way a dump truck would be better is if you need the dump box while pulling your mowing trailer daily for clippings etc. Good luck with your choice!
He should get the f 650 dump body lasted us about 20 years using it for comercail use
If you’re mowing doing clean ups etc get the 350 and dump trailer, it will do you well and give you room to grow. If you’re doing hardscaping or delivering a lot of materials get the 550. You’ll never get close to gvwr on the 550 with grass or leaves or brush but it’s easy to overload anything smaller if you’re hauling 3/8” gravel or stone dust.
Great conversation. I struggle with this as well. For now went with dump trailer. $6600 and I can pull when I need it. Actually have a regular flatbed on my 3/4 ton. So I pull my dump trailer with it for landscaping. Have 2 places to load items. Blocks or materials on the truck, mulch or rock on the trailer. Also something I learned recently. Cab and chassis Ford's are detuned from the a standard f350 with the 6.7 . Nice truck though!
Just get a 1-Ton Pick up with long box, diesel. You can always decide if you want a dually or not. As for brand go look at all of them and choose the one you like best that fits you the most, after all it's pretty much your office.
Love that truck!!! That grey you're talking about would be FIYA!!!!!
Yes they are detuned I believe just on the horsepower side. I have 3 F450's and one F350 srw I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE them. I don't buy them for speed when I am pulling a trailer around all over the place. All of them have the 4:10 gears plenty of torque + plow package which you will want to get if you are the type that likes to plow. Also the F450's have better turning radius vs. the f250's-350's + much bigger and stronger front axles that own the road rather than politely roll along. lastly, I have heard nothing but great things about the new super duty trucks regardless of what one you choose from people that have had the pre 2017 models vs the 2017+ models FYI.
If you are looking to buy a new dump truck Chevy is coming out with their new 4500, 5500, and the 6500. I would test drive both before you buy. I have a dump trailer. If you buy one I would deffiniatly go with a PJ dump trailer. I've had one for 3 years now and no problems at all.
If your doing leaf clean ups or even collecting grass. This truck is the way to go. You can’t have debris in a dump trailer and equipment too. Both would be nice though.
If you're into Excavating go with a dump truck, if you're in the hauling leaves and debris a dump trailer would suit you better. Most of my dump sites you wouldn't be able to back a trailer in there! An f550 with a 12-foot dump box is worth a hundred grand up here in Canada. Thanks for sharing
If you're spending 60k on a truck spend a little more and get something you'll love and will make you the most money. We just purchased a '19 f550 6.7 chassis cab this spring and put on a custom aluminum split dump. Grand total was 77k and we can haul up to 18 yards of mulch, and do 2 deliveries at once. I'm not saying you need a split dump, as we mainly do mulch deliveries and installs, but you will be limited with that 9' low sided monroe dump.
Is recommend a crew cab myself you never know when you need to haul helpers lol
I bought my F-150 from Hines Park. Nice people up there!
Again, a grain of salt, go with the 250/350 with dump attachment. Keep the Chevy too!! This way you can have 2 everyday drivers, still be able to haul a ton, and even go with a dump trailer too for extra measure. If you're planning on starting to mow more, then add that gate attachment that the guy had at the GIE to the Chevy, and you'll have a mowing/landscape truck, and the 250/350 with the dump attachment for plow and pavers and so on.... Good luck either way, God bless you guys, and Greetings from Jersey buds!!!!!!
Get the F250 in the blue jean blue with the 7x16 dump trailer. It is better financially because then you don't have to buy two vechicles, one being the dump and the other being your personal.
Its actually worse. Putting miles on ur work truck for personal? Not smart. A truck is meant for work. The more personal miles u put, the more it has a chance of breaking down and for the wrong reasons.
@@remgroup8401 thats why he qould get a ford and not a chevy, found often rescuing duramaxes. Thats y he doesnt get a Chevy, they suck.
I drive ford and ur missin my point
I have been milling over the same thing lately. I have a 1500 chevy (that probably cant pull as much as Brandon's) and there isnt a whole lot i can really do with it. I've been looking at some used dump trucks and have seen some nice deals but 99% of them are 2 wheel drive. I dont want to get something that is liable to get me stuck some day, but then again I may get lucky and never get (badly) stuck with it. I have thought about getting a used 3/4 ton or a 1 ton and a dump trailer as well but thats more expense than i can afford as well. My biggest dilemma is that im just now honestly breaking even with my mowing business. this is my second year so im doing ok in that regard considering some people dont break even till their 5 year or so. I want to expand my business with the potential to plow snow and haul gravel and dirt ect as well as use the dump trailer/truck for my own job use. I really dont want to go into debt again but as they say, gotta spend money to make money right? Right...? I dont know its driving me crazy lol.
One thing Brandon might consider is a roll off dump trailer with a flat bed. He could potentially do away with his utility trailer and just use the one trailer or at least use it for heavy equipment. I would be interested in one to haul like i said but also as a potential dumpster rental side hustle.
If your looking for a medium duty work truck that has a dump box or Maybe you don't even want a dump box but if you do I would go for a f-450 you get the heavy duty shocks and you get a little smaller truck body than even the f-550.
Go with the gasser f550 dump AND the 20ft dump trailer with grapple. 😀
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With an f250 normal truck; in the future if you buy toys or a camper, you can haul it with a comfort truck vs a dump truck especially on trips. A second vehicle probably costs more than a second trailer, especially since both will need weighted tags and major repairs vs a lifetime trailer tag and pretty much minor repairs. Biggest thing is having a bigger trailer always comes in handy in this industry. You could probably use a 350 with a 16' as well. You might can rent your dump trailer out for demo jobs as well.
The I or L pack boxes are priceless...... Definitely handy
I had a little 84 Ford Ranger. With a custom-made flatbed that's what I use for my business out in Arizona.
If you're look at dump trailers, 14' gooseneck with 1-2 foot side extensions, cant go wrong.
I have a friend that took a wireless winch remote and adapted it to work with his dump trailer. You can't go wrong with the Ford diesels!
We are a BOSS Plow dealer and I just finished Installing A V-plow and Vbx hopper spreader on that exact truck today!! Same bed ,same Buyers boxes (just steel not aluminum) . That's just ironic !!
Look into the Bwise dump trailers. They have a nice one with a ramp configuration so you can use it to haul equipment as well.
Dump truck would be an awesome buy, but something to consider that I have had to put up with is we're you live. I run my own construction business and tow a 14' enclosed trailer with my F150. I thought about getting a van and have my truck but just starting out was not finicially smart to have two insurance payments and maintenance for two vehicles. Another thing to consider is your town/ county ordinances about commercial vehicles being parked at home. I got a notice saying I can't park my trailer in front of my house and had to start parking it off the side in the lawn. (I live on a dead end street) Also part of the code it "no commercial vehicle with decal or lettering", so a dump truck with decals would get you a hefty fine but a trailer can as well, but trailer can be stored out of the way or in a garage easier than a dump. My truck is also my personal go out with friends. If I had a van only, well, I'll always have my tools at least.
I'd go with a f250. Good rebates right now (approx 9-10k in rebates in my area) and plus you will have extra cab room and a nicer truck with more options than a basic WT. Plus a decent dump trailer for around the same price point. Just my opinion. Your biz and vision is whay counts in the end!
Have a 16ft dump. I love if but hydros are slow and really only holds 5yrd before the tires start to pinch. Had a lol over 5 yards of 3/4 inch stone on and had to shovel off since the hydros couldn't lift. For $8500 I figured it could lift and hold more than 5 yards
its not just the size of the dump bed, running a dump trailer over a dump truck, you have to consider that your dumping area length is much longer because the dumping height on the trailer is lower, you have more tires to replace, another mechanism to maintain, something else to pay taxes and registration on and its nowhere near as maneuverable. I almost bought a dump trailer also but considering everything just bought a dump truck and I daily it no problem too. Also, if you need more material than that delivered, just have someone else deliver it. I have a 10 yard body measured water level on one of my trucks and I still call other people to deliver material occasionally
I think it’s overkill man. You would be better off with a 250 or 350 with a nice dump trailer. Unless you are doing huge landscape installs with pavers or stuff like that, there really isn’t anything you need to haul that weighs more than what those can handle. Plus you can use a 250 or 350 for regular tasks as well
If your looking at a deisel look at the rams for cold start reasons durring snow season.
This is one of my biggest debates. I love my dump truck with central hydraulics and tail gate Salter in the winter. But find myself constantly borrowing my buddies 12 10k lbs dump trailer. I also didn’t believe it would haul 10k lbs until I loaded it up with 5 ton of gravel and tailgated a huge driveway
My old company truck was a 2011 F450 Dump truck 6.7L Powerstroke I wasn't impressed with it.. I rarely hauled anything and only towed skid steers occasionally.. But it just seemed like it lacked the power of a Duramax or Cummins .. Then at around 87k miles it blew up.. I was pretty much the only person that drove the truck and I took care of it because it was a nice truck and it was serviced according to a strict schedule.. They gave me a new truck a 2016 F250 lariat with the 6.2L Gas engine and it seems to have decent power.. * I should also mention that I'm not a fan of any particular manufacturer I like pretty much all trucks so I'm pretty fair when I tell people about them..
The difference in the suspension between the 250 and 350 is a very important upgrade if he's hauling anything like gravel or river rock it's spool heavy . I can only haul a 1/2 trailer of rock because of my truck
I wonder if you could get a bigger body on it and take the boxes behind the cab off and put boxes underneath the body
I’ve had a chance to use a new f550 with a dump bed. They’re okay, but I prefer the 94’ gmc 3500 dump bed. The only things the f550 had going for it was Bluetooth radio and it was 10+years newer.
That a contractor truck. Like concrete guy or commercial plowing. Get a landscape dump or big dump trailer. That’s gonna run $2000 month plus def fluid.
First time watcher here. What are going to be hauling? Gravel, trees, grass? That 550 will haul anything u can put in it and pull any trailer u want to put behind it. That being said , do you need that much truck? My dad just bought a used f350 with the v10 and put a 12ft dump box on it. He has been hauling gravel and pulls a 10ft dump trailer. He hauls about 3 to 4 yards of gravel in each. The 12ft box has enough room to haul more but he would be really over loading the truck.
You can get used box trucks fairly cheap . Take the box off and put a dump box on it. I think my dad paid a round 7000 for the truck and then had to find the dump box. He is cheap so he wanted a used one to save money. If he would have gone with a new box he would have gotten a smaller one.
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I’ve been doing landscaping for years. Fixed dump bed trucks are stupid. You have to lift debris so high in the air and it’s a back injury waiting to happen. Especially if your edging flower beds and have grass clumps to get rid of it’s impossible to put in there. Definitely get a F250 and a dump trailer. Haul so much more and safer to load. I got that setup and it’s great! Plus it’s a personal truck when I want it to be. If you do F550, look at a switch n go. Good luck.
Great tips
This guy is grinning ear to ear same way I do when i get excited about upgrading equipment😂 great video!
I bought a 16ft Load Trail dump last spring and I love it. Built very well. I would definitely keep the utility trailer though because mowing out of a dump trailer is not fun haha.
MAn I got 50k in my ram 2500 diesel and its nice as heck. He should consider that and a nice dump trailer. Way more versitile. The 2500 could also be a good personal rig on the weekends.
I would go with a 250 or 350 with dump trailer for now so it can be a daily driver, then once you can afford a second vehicle for your business, get thew dump truck, because that has its uses too. Like if you want to bring a skid steer to a job and have something to haul the material away with too. Just my thoughts, can't go wrong wither way!
With the dump truck u can haul ur landscape trailer to making u in the end being able to haul more things or you get a dump trailer tooo
U have more tires and brakes involved with the 2 or 350 causing u more maintain a in the end
Chant just bought a nice dump trailer. I am leaning that way to be able to side load and un load
Two more reason for a trailer are you don't have you're extra back seat while using the dump truck for business or people and you've got to either have both trucks stocked with multiple sets of tools or constantly transfer tools between and we all know how well that works...
My dad always says you can't have a big enough truck or TRAILER. Trust me, get the truck and dump trailer and you will find it's more useful having a bigger bed for waste. I have a 10' dump trailer and regret not getting started least a 12. Keep the utility if you're still doing lawns. You can haul equipment with either and it's a pain in the arse to load unload without a proper ramp. Also, you get the dump truck and if you feel it up during a busy time and don't have time to unload, you've got to haul the extra weight everywhere which means more wear and fuel.
Bwise ultimate dump trailer. Very nice trailer. Also not sure if you guys are aware of this but the 2017 up f 450-550 cab and chassis. The motor is detuned (lower hp and tourque)than the f 250-350-450 pick ups. Just figured I would mention that men. Rock on👍
They de tune for reliability and are able to offer longer warranty
I have a f250 diesel with a 7 by 14 dump trailer and I love it over haven a dump truck because it's the best of both worlds
plus you can haul skid steer or mini ex on a dump trailer
Here in California, every city has a commercial department police officer. I have a gmc 3500 diesel 12foot stake bed . Let me tell you....I have gotten pulled over by every city I drive thru. Beverly hills 2 times, Santa Monica 3 times, Culver city 8 times, and Inglewood 1 time . Plus c.h.p. has random checkpoints all over los Angeles . The only reason I haven't gotten a truck with a trailer is because parking here is hard to find and traffic is a nightmare. If it wasnt for those 2 reasons...I would just buy a truck with a trailer.
Pickup and dump trailer is so much more versatile for everyday use and landscaping. Unless you have daily work for a f550 dump truck I’d hold out on that. With the 550 you get into dot numbers, and depending on state law needing a cdl to tow anything behind it.
DOT numbers are no big deal, just go online and apply for one, they are free. Also, you need a cdl class A when trailering any weight over 10,001 lbs. Per federal regulations.
Absolutely gorgeous truck. That being said, he should go with a galvanized bed or an aluminum bed if he’s going to want it for a long time. Those steel beds rust so quickly and look bad after one year of use. I know the aluminum beds probably don’t hold as much but they make a lot of sense!
V 10 gasser F 350 cab and chassis with dump body. Save at least 10-15 grand over that truck and buy a dump trailer for extra capacity if needed. Better fuel mileage over the 4:88 or 5:13 the 550 has for gears. Diesel upgrade just is not worth it. You have to run them about 300 K to break even.
Check your states weight restrictions before you buy a 550, it can restrict you're towing capacity to where you would be able to tow more with a 2500 or 3500 if you don't have a CDL. If Brandon is running a one truck operation for sure go with the dump trailer, that's alo't of money to have wrapped up in one piece of equipment!!
The problem with simply going with a 250 or 350 is that you miss the versatility of having a dump truck. When you are working by yourself, a dump body on a truck allows you to pull a trailer with your equipment, mowers or a skid loader to the job site at the same time you bring your materials. With a dump trailer, it is going to take at least two trips, thereby negating the time savings of a dump trailer over your utility trailer.
F350 and the dump trailer hands down. So nice being able to just unhook the trailer and having a personal truck.
Small dump bed. Loose the tool bins and put on a 7x12ft dump body with 4ft steel walls. Would haul 12 yards, 5+ tons :)
Get the trailer, if the truck goes down, you are out of commission. With the trailer you have it no matter what truck you are running. It keeps you more flexable.
I’d go with a 450 or better. The main reason I’d go with a 450 over a 350 dually is the wide track front axle. You’ll get a much better turning radius.
Also I’d go with something that has a larger cab. I’d get the at least the cab and a half. This way if you need to you can cram someone into the back seat. It would let you run a larger crew if needed. And not have to worry about a 2nd vehicle.
Look at a slightly used diesel you won’t be upside down the minute you turn out of the dealership. Not to mention the money you save would easy buy a good size dump trailer
We've got the same setup without the toolbox and on a 2015 truck. I'd rather have that rig with drop-down sides.
That F550 you can put a 10.5 Meyer Super V2. It has a 5 year warranty from Meyer.
The F550 is a beast of work truck! On the upside they're super maneuverable over a pickup and dump trailer. Down side would be the higher overhead, with bigger purchase price and more insurance cost ect. Also keep in mind the DOT regulations which can be a real hassle. At the end of the day you could adapt to either but I ❤ my F550
I’d definitely go dump truck-u can bring your mowing trailer and then with the dump truck u don’t need to make extra trips with a dump trailer to get equipment. Just my opinion
F-350 bro....you can do inserts for plowing with less strain or do one of those pull plows....bad ass! Plus a 350 is where it's at
Happy that Truck Talk Tuesday is back! Very interested to see what the final decision will be.
Do it do it pull the trigger. Good thing about the 550 if you need to get gravel or dirt you have plenty of truck. Need to balance how you use it for what you need.
I got a dump trailer and few years ago and man has it payed its self for I don’t know how I worked without it get a truck and trailer
I would not get the diesel unless you are putting some serious miles on it. The upfront cost for diesel doesn't make sense. Gas engines these days can pull a lot and pull it well. I would get the stake sides and not the contractor sides. You can get more material in it and brush/debris etc. my 2 cents. Good luck
Definately go with the 14 foot dump trailer. We’re so happy with our 2500 and dump trailer setup.
dump truck is the way to go and if you need more pull a dump trailer with the dump truck... 👍
Get a 350. Put an 8’ dumperdogg in the back. Then get a dump trailer. Cheaper for all 3 than the f550. Gives you more versatility too.
Hey, I just remembered looking into Bwise trailers recently. Their Ultimate Dump Trailer is pretty BADA$$ compared to a lot of them if you go that route. Plus, it might be able to replace your utility trailer with it's unique ramp. I believe it's like $15k though. But it would possibly be the only trailer you'd need for years.
Really depends you go get f250 you're going to spend $60,000 and then you're going to go and buy a 14-16 ft dump trailer and you're spend another 12 or 15 grand so you're looking at like $75,000 or so when you could just spend 66 and get the dump truck would get a F-250 and a dump insert and you have 66,000 right there too
I dunno, if u go with the F450-550 dump box u could have a full dump box on the way to a job as well as a skidsteer or other equipment on the trailer... if you get the F250-350 u are always having to pull a trailer to use it for work and if ur taking materials as well as large equipment to a job your gonna take twice as many trips a lot more......
I would have thought you would still use the Chevy 1500 for a personal vehicle and then you could have the F550 dump for a work truck always with a trailer attached until you get to a job.... that is unless you were gonna trade that in...... just my thoughts
I didn't think about the added versatility of salting with a dump bed and larger plow in the winter with the F550... that's another point
I highly recommend getting the dump truck. Instead of going brand new go with one that’s a couple years old and keep both trucks.
Hey Brian. How do you feel about 20-24foot open trailer with the front half set up as a side dump. Then have equipment and mowers loaded in the back.
Never really considered them.. seems kind of goofy to me.
I agree with others who say go with a truck and a trailer set-up. Problem with the trailer set up you have extra maintenance. Those trailers break down and need constant attention.
I have a f450 7.3 dump with the 9ft bed. Best truck I’ve ever bought. I love my duramax however ford has it going on. 6.7 and 6.2 are a workhorse
I think one of the things that you may have overlooked the insurance on those things are outrageous and with dump trailer you'll save a lot of money and you'll get your personal truck you have 250 or 350 and be ahead of the ball game so dump trailer all the way. In a few years once you become more stable and you want to play with the big boys then go for a dump truck just my opinion good luck. FYI go to Kelly and Sons and get your dump trailer I'm sure Brian can get you a good deal...😊👍
250 with a plow n dump trailer , in michigan here I would say our best options fellas good job
I would get a 350 4x4 with the diesel, then get a dump trailer. You can always upgrade next year when you really need to. You might be able to do the same with a 250 vs. a 350, but not a 250 vs a 550.
Brandon do you have a cdl? You will need one with this truck... You should look into a hydro dump instead of electric dump you'll find you'll like it better. Had an electric and as it gets older it gets slower. Just so you know... I don't want to repeat what everyone else is saying before me... :)
Get a 350 DRW regular cab gas with a B-wise dump trailer it comes in 14-16 ft also it has a hydraulic lift gate that can be converted to a ramp,
It is what I got
cost of truck $ $40,000
Cost of trailer $16,000 for 16ft x 7ft
Laughing all the way through 😂.