Fender Gold Foil Basses - Something Different!
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⏰ Timestamps ⏰
» 0:00 Intro Playing!
» 1:38 Welcome Back
» 1:50 Introducing the Fender Gold Foil Jazz Bass!
» 2:02 The Specs
» 4:40 How Does It Sound?
» 6:21 Player P-Bass for Comparison?
» 7:12 Back to the Gold Foil Bass
» 8:00 Player Jazz Bass for Comparison?
» 9:47 Lee's Conclusion
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Lee is such a killer player! That intro groove was magical.
Unfortunately you can see that even on this one, the bridge is misaligned, just like low-end lobsters, and you can hear the e string volume is nowhere near the rest of the strings, since it's not over the pickup properly.
BullyThaKid also had one that was misaligned
@@rexrathtar3893 wow you really want this bass😂
It's true Bully the kid sent his to Lobster for review
on this one the bridge is NOT misaligned, watch better the video...may be it something that happens not on all basses...
Got one a few months back . Perfect bass. No issues in its build. Very happy with mine!
Consummate playing and presentation as always Lee, cheers!
Say, you beat the guitar guys in testing the new gold foil pickups. I wonder why they went with single coils for the bass instead of mini-hums like the 6-strings. 🤔Also, I think a Jazz bass should have two pickups. That green Jazz Player+ with the maple fretboard is really nice. Thanks for the demo. Great playing as always.
Lee is such A Humble Player , always enjoy his playing and reviews , Tight !
I got the blue version and having no issues with it, the only thing I’ve done is that the frets had do be “sanded off”. Non of the problems that are mentioned on lobster. Recorded and played a lot live and it’s warm and sits sweet in the mix. Flawless intonation and setup when it arrived new in the box.
Don't reference a chomo who targets kids.
The sad reality is that in 2023, when a company says they have something that’s “new”… what they really mean is “cheaper to make “
And "sold at a premium price to maximize profit margin"
OK boomer
Facts
And sold for an outrageous price. It’s CA$1800 over here, and it’s not hard to find a USA made jazz or precision for similar money
The other sad reality is that we always hear about the same brands, while the Japanese brands are far superior in terms of quality and reliability
I don't understand why we don't hear more often about Tokai or some handmade brand there
We only hear about Fender, Gibson, PRS etc.
Which are far from being known for their reliability, it works the same as in the car world
I would’ve liked to see them make this thing with 2 of the gold foil pickups since this is supposed to be a Jazz bass after all. Otherwise it has a nice sound, and all.
I’m liking the sound from this instrument, I’d be fascinated to hear one with 2 pickups as someone else commented…
If any guy were to tempt me to buy a bass, it would be this guy
Sounds great!!
Lovely playing!
If it had TWO properly aligned pickups (and a bridge in the correct position), I would STILL only pay about $700 for it.
I have one of those green FSR Jazz basses. Bought it before Christmas, didn't like the black pickguard so have a tortoiseshell instead - tried it with an antique pearl, nice but a bit too much. Also swapped the bridge out for a Fender HiMass - slightly deeper tone. Love it now. But that gold foil does sound nice.
Magnificent intro piece 👍
3:46
"It's not a bug, it's a feature"
Nice playing! Sounds amazing. Wish it came in black.
I sounded great. Am wondering if it ought to be compared to an early 50’s non-split P-Bass
I love the looks and I love the tone, but having seen the QC issues with these there's no way I'd buy without trying one in the flesh.
Just a heads up, Fender does make a proprietary T-shape wrench that allows you to adjust their tiny little truss rod access point without taking off the neck. Just look up Fender Truss Rod tool and it’s the long thing with the strange red t shape handle on the top
It doesn't seem to get enough purchase at least on my P-bass, so I have to remove the neck just the same.
For the unsavvy, there is nothing proprietary about a ball end hex key. Just buy one from your local hardware store for half of the price minus shipping.
@@barrydingle3830 thanks for mentioning that, I (and seemingly many others) had no idea that was a thing 😅
Basically a ball allen wrench or ball hex key, not really proprietary.
Parabéns à Fender
Gonna take fender a while to get people’s trust back after this fiasco
The misaligned bridges, causing the E string output to be very low
The private equity firm that owns it will get tired and confused by the drop in prestige, the company will sell to another company in a few years and quality will bounce bounce back for a while and they'll get bought again and cycle will repeat.
No trust was lost, and there wasn't any fiasco. Fender will move on, and at most will lose some money from the basses that are bad-I hope you understand that not all basses from this line are lemons? It is only a subset of bassists that are in a specific social media groupthink against Fender. Many *wish* a fiasco that truly affected Fender happened. I suspect most had already made up their minds about FMIC before this, and use any sample for confirmation bias.
Unless the above is sarcasm? The Gold Foil Jazz represents a tiny amount of Fender's current market. It is a niche bass after all. If it's meant, I disagree and cannot see the fiasco or lost trust-these basses are under warranty. At most, they can lose a lot of money if there are enough bad cases, but as a music instrument business they will be fine.
No offense meant, even if you truly meant your statement. I am not Fender. Disagreement is fine.👍If 50% of all of their MiM guitars and basses had real problems then they should fire some managers, and indeed trust will be lost. But if most of the MiM guitars and basses are fine-which seems to be the case-Fender's place in the market is too strong to be shaken by a "fiasco" that only possibly affects a small amount of players interested in this bass-IMHO.
Now I agree with the idea that there *should not* be many problems, and that they should investigate for possible factory errors. I would have returned any bass with problems. The bass sample above is fine-if it is not perfect enough or not up to your standards, return it.
Be well.
@@classicalthrasher it's not clear how wide spread these problems are, but the faulty products have been shipped in the USA and Europe. It's a really really poor reflection on their QA management.
@Døm "Alleged" QA Management is more like it.
I see everyone talking about the QC issues with Fender, I'm not too up to speed about it but I will say this; I almost bought a Meteora bass 4 months ago, but playing it in person, it had sooo much wrong with it that I felt a $300 ibanez bass was a better instrument regardless of price. Sad when an entry level bass beats a $1200 instrument in just about every category.
I had a Western Bass with two Gold Foil PU's back in 67 for $35
Gotta do a session with Lee🎉!
So its just a single coil pu with a gold foil cover? So a branded partscaster
I am not a bass player, but looks nice to me
This one doesn't look misaligned, but this pickup is just too narrow. It may be a nice bass but I know of single coil P basses that do the same trick and cost a fraction.
how have these not been recalled yet?? every single bass has the misaligned pickup and misaligned nut...shocking that these made it to stores!
@@rexrathtar3893 Time 2:20 at: ua-cam.com/video/SE9FZ2nhFYo/v-deo.html
@@rexrathtar3893 took me a while, but i did it!
@@rexrathtar3893 considering even on the fender website the pick up is misaligned im pretty sure its actually a standard feature..
The one in this video looks fine.
@@mrpositronia If it was fine, you would have been able to hear Lee playing the E string.
Why are y’all even bothering with this one Anderton’s?
So prefer this style pickup on a bass.
I would turn this into a Mark Hoppus bass, either 1 or 2
It sounds like a..... let´s see... a bass!😁
A review where the player can actually play . Refreshing
Doesn't look great, doesn't sound great, single coil hum and it's expensive. Classic fender.
is it me or does the QC look terrible on this
look like pickups you used to get in some 70s made in japan copys
Are the bridges still installed way off center? Seems like a shit product from other videos and that’s coming from fender fanboy me😂
Was going to post the same thing. Everything else I’ve seen on these has not been good, with E strings practically hanging off the edge of the fretboard.
@@blackthorn5709 I'm just imagining 1 single guy on the fender production line with glasses like jam jars
Judging by the muddy and muted sound of that E string compared to the other three...I'd say no.
I’ve tried a good few new Fender Jazz basses recently, across three vendors - Andertons, GAK and Guitar Guitar. In no particular order... the one with the gold foil pickup had a misaligned bridge, the ’62 reissue with bound neck [looked really good] had a shocking set-up, of the two American Professionals only one was decent, and the two American Performer models were truly horrible - the volume controls went from 10 to 2 in less than a quarter of a turn, the tone controls simply didn’t work, there were swirls on the finish from the buffing machine and the action was HIGH but the bridge saddles were LOW [neck relief okay]... You need to add shims on from-the-factory basses? Seems so.
It was like being back in the ‘70s again - the decade when Fender [and Gibson] forgot about quality control. In the end I picked up a second hand Japanese Fender Jazz bass for a fraction of the cost of a new US Fender... and it’s just the ticket.
Retailers have a responsibility to check their instruments before putting them in the hands of potential buyers. Of the six basses I played, only one could be classed as sellable, IMO. And when I was prepared to spend well over a grand that’s not what I’d have expected at all.
Truth
Not ever music store are good at doing this thats why i rely on sweetwater and music store where i live in Norway that do setups before they sent the bass today when i buy online lmao
In fact not every bass is perfect. And a pickup setup and all that can do all the diffrence
It's too bad the qc on these r bad.. that's a cool looking bass.. that jazz bass.looked awesome
The bridge is misaligned on this model, the E string is not over the pickup properly. #Fender
It looks fine to me, the camera angle is making look slightly out but when it's face on, it's in the right place - I doubt Fender or Andertons wouldn't have noticed if it was.
This looks fine. Check again. Don't just go with one that someone had on another channel. BullyThaKid and LowEndLobster shared the same bass.
Sonic Blueuty... 😉
Sting has ordered 30 of these...
Let Squier make these; probably better quality and way more affordable. Still, I am not particularly averse to a JB with one PU, it sounds nice enough. The price IS ridiculous, of course.
I came here to hear the bridge pickup...
🤣👍
Sounds almost the same as the P Bass actually. Interesting.
So... it's not actually a J, it's a P with a hotter single coil in place of the split coil?
Yes.
Fail from Fender.
The other sad reality is that we always hear about the same brands, while the Japanese brands are far superior in terms of quality and reliability
I don't understand why we don't hear more often about Tokai or some handmade brand there
We only hear about Fender, Gibson, PRS etc.
Which are far from being known for their reliability, it works the same as in the car world
That's right - Cort is extremely good - have a B4 Fretless and it's better than anything from 7ender
@@paulklement4511 Yes, we hear all the time about the same brand while there is however much better value for money
Yamaha for example or Cort as you said
Then more expensive guitars but of much better quality than any Gibson or Fender, like the Tokai or Navigators
@@alexdenton6586 I would avoid Yamaha entirely, terrible customer service. I've been trying to return defective audio monitors to them for going on 3 months now. I would look up what brands are made under World Music in Korea, I consider that factory to be one of the best in the world. Samick, ESP, Agile, and a few other big names are made in that factory.
@@DudeMcGuybro im less familiar with Yamaha
I have tokai premium series at home and navigators
well they sell what they stock,fender will fall out with you,if you stock tokai,links between tokai and fender,have allways been tenuos,tokai also has to alter the headstock to sell in uk.tokai were originally offered the fender japan contract,but told fender to take a hike,as early 80s tokai were doing fine on their own,the deal also stipulated that tokai cease trying to sell their instruments in the usa.so the contract went to fujigen.andertons do stock fender japan,and also g and l.fender even tried a cease and desist order on leo fender himself,for putting guitars by leo on the g and l headstock.fenders cornering of the market,and the way they work with dealers,if you sell certain rival brands,fender wont send you any guitars.thats why you dont see many tokai dealers in the uk.unfortunately fender/gibson/prs are the names the youth know,same when i was a youth,but years of playing,i actually own around 10 fenders,i also own tokai/levinson blade,ibanez,charvel made in japan,all on par and in some cases,more bang for the buck than fender
can we get Lee a friend again. he looks lonely sitting there. Pete or captain Lee, please
While I can understand them only using one pickup on a P-bass model, doing so for a Jazz Bass (who's outstanding function is to have a wider array of tones than a P-bass could articulate) seems totally wrong to me. At least it seems to be a nice sounding pickup. I would actually be interested in buying these pickups by themselves, any details of them being available as spares? I could see them being a popular upgrade route for the likes of the Bronco Bass, Classic Vibe 50's and Classic Vibe Bass VI and that's just from Squire's range. Personally I am interested to try one in place of a Jazz bass pickup from the bridge position of my old Squire Vintage Modified P-bass.
……and I’ve always wondered why p-bass shaped basses are still made. The jazz is a far more pleasing shape. So a p configuration in a jazz style shape is fine by me. This combination of colours looks great.
Out Gold Foil and in you put P-Pickups... this bass is amazing. (Sorry my english)
@@Simon-C well, I actually quite dislike the J shape, so... there's obviously a point in making Ps
Be advised that I've just heard back from Fender and they will not sell you these pick-ups if you've an ambition to add a second, AND...'may' not even have any to supply repair or warranty work. They were made by or for Fender and are 8K, not the 5K or 6K look a-likes on sale elsewhere. The Fender tech rep said that the pickup height is the same as for all the vintage pickups - 8/64" (3.2 mm) on the bass side and 6/64" (2.4 mm) on the treble side.
P.S. I bought one on clearance. $650US! It is, by investigation, heads and tails above other examples in fit and finish so I jumped on it. The ebony neck is uniformly black, and the frets are finished to perfection. Factory set up is spot on for some reason!
The 'something different' referred to by Lee in this video is SUSTAIN! Wow does this thing persist. Unlike either a J of P bass, this thing rings, and requires some...taming through touch when it is not otherwise required in pursuit of a Fender mid scoop.
P.P.S. The bridge and pickup are perfectly sighted and centered, affording complete coverage of the strings and saturation of the pickup. Mine has none of the problems reported by other less fortunate UA-cam reviewers, so great ones exist too!
All of these basses have a poorly centered pickup/bridge. How is that possible?
Jeez-o-pete, the E string is practically sitting atop of the trim ring.
Man i can barely hear that E string. QC on these went completely awry.
It's the nature of those pickups. Listen to a Tele bass. It also has a small single coil and has the same sound.
@@mrpositronia i watched the FIRST tele bass demo i could find (without talking) and your statement couldnt be more false. The E sounded just as loud (volume wise) as the other strings. This is not nature of the pickup, its misalignment at the bridge
I like the sound, and almost bought one, but then all the quality control problems showed up. Fender really has to address the manufacuring issues on this bass. Besides Lobster and Bully, Dave's World of Cool Stuff had to pull the neck off one and fix the frets which were not finished at all.
Not to mention having the truss inaccessable in a modern bass is unforgiveable. I live in the country, I don't have a guitar tech I can call on. This damaged the trust factor with Fender
I am not a guitar tech and adjust the vintage truss rod without issue or concerns. I am sure you can. Easier than soldering pickups to be sure.
Do not always follow whatever people say online as "facts"-often these are merely opinions. Form your own. My MiM bass was totally fine out of the box. There will be basses with problems considering the amount of instruments Fender puts out. The unfinished frets thing is not even the norm, even on the Gold Foil Jazz bass. The latter could have had bad batches at the factory-many of the basses seem to be fine.
Negativity breds even more negativity. For instance, there seems to be no output problems on the E on the above bass, yet many are "hearing" the lack of output the other reviewer had on Bully's bass. Easy to pile on criticism.
Again, the vintage truss rod is an stylistic thing. It's utterly "forgivable" by *Fender*; perhaps not so much if done by any other manufacturer. It is not a big problem at all just because it's rare among modern basses-just a Fender idiosyncrasy.
Not attacking you, Mr. Grant. Have no reason to do so. Just stating not all is Dark and Evil at the MiM factory. Definitely should catch major problems, but that doesn't mean they should shut down the factory, or that they are incapable of producing high quality, MiM basses.
@@rexrathtar3893 You and I will have to agree to disagree on this. I get why they do it to make it more vintage, but it's a design flaw really and they shouldn't propagate in a new bass design which isn't vintage
yeah, just saving materials and/or steps in the production. perhaps a little new design. and somebody who is trying to talk too positive about the stuff.
Man these things are bad. Their build quality and q.c is like something youd see on a 200$ knockoff
Watch the Low End Lobster review of this bass for a true representation of what this utter Joke of £1200 is all about
Lobster reported this correctly. Terrible QC
That's fender nowadays
Sounds a ton better out the gate than that trash epiphone on the last bass video
Too many people on here are watching one video from a UA-cam bass player and claiming to all of a sudden be an expert on this particular bass series. That bass was handed to other YT channels, so of course they are going to spot the same issue. The one on this video looks and sounds fine.
@10:45 Just a note: tone wood is a myth in electric instruments. It’s not even debatable these days with all the videos out there comparing identical electric instruments who’s only difference is the wood.
Make an American version, with nitro, and a traditional wood case I would buy it in a second. The Mexican instruments have way too many QC issues, I have seen two of these with off centered bridges and the fret work on all the Mexican necks are terrible.
I'm not a bass player but that bridge looks misaligned to me- one of the strings isn't over the pickups and has less volume. And there are ppl in the comments saying they have one that has the same issue- looks like Fender dropped the ball on this one to me.
A Jazz with one misaligned pickup? Absolutely not....
£1300 for a one pickup MIM jazz bass that isn’t even a gold foil. Absolutely bizarre. Fender have been so dull the past 5-6 years. Urgh.
Damn I really want to buy a bass instead of using midi : ( haha
Why Fender?! Why?
shit gold foil 😂
Just purchase a P bass already.
Fender must be pooping in there pants on acceptance of there foil bass. No one seems to give it a good review, it doesn't improve on the P-bass or J- bass sound. Bottom line, why?
Not much different about this from any other Fender I’ve ever heard, which is to say it sounds sterile and run of the mill
And yet nothing sits better in a mix than a Fender.
Gold foils meh
Lee is great. That pup is simply underwhelming :/
$1300 for a Mexican made Fender. Nope
I heard they're garbage
Where is Nathan? Lee and Nathan have it. Whilst Nathan’s replacement was a nice character there was not much going on in the demonstration sense of things, not that I could not get from any basic rock player. It was all a bit one dimensional. Same can be said with the chap who has that bald long haired thing going on, and who needs to visit baldcafe on UA-cam. I am sure I am going to get roasted for my comments. I could care less. They are both better than the Alan Partridge of guitar, also known as Rob Chapman.
lol the same old p/j bass body as usual .... smh. I'll pass.
Useless
Why is every guitarist I see on the streets a bass player? Are youngsters no longer playing type-T or type-S or single-cuts or acoustic guitars
youngsters are no longer playing much of anything
@@looking_33 think it's the music they watch. I saw a Glastonbury set the other day. And it was just a guy spinning decks surrounded by screens doing a light show. It was all on a platform which raised when the feed of the song intensified
I did t understand it at all but the crowds were losing their minds.
So no musicians to emulate is my point
@looking_33 Get outta here with that age-ism. I don't see _you_ slaving 14 hours a day in a mine like your ancestors.
@@josephpbrown in days gone by people used to talk about stuff on all sorts of subjects. It didn't matter if people were right or wrong, it was just talking around with your mates. It also didn't matter if you were young or old, young people used to talk with young people. Old people used to talk with old people. And yes, young and old people used to talk together too. It was a blessed time where there was no Internet so a lot of time people didn't even know if something was right or wrong. Debates could go on for hours, days and yes, even weeks. If it was important enough we would sometimes go to the library and search for an answer. Many times those searches were fruitless. So the to and fro of ideas continued. People argued their corners but it was a friendly arena where people respected opinions even if those opinions differed from their own. The debates would still carry on over a few beers. A lot of friendships were curated off the back of having a debate and more importantly listening to opposing views.
I welcome hearing your opinions of why a dj spinning decks staying in one place with headphones on is as good as a 70s style rock concert. I would like to know what I am 'not getting'. I welcome your debate
Ah, I do miss the times when people could speak their opinions without someone taking offence (which was not originally given by the way). Truly magical times
@truthtorpedo99 To be truthful, I wish I was around to see 'em too. Working in retail and being a young musician gives you some distasteful knee-jerk reactions to older people insulting what you love simply because they can't comprehend what's going on in the new world any more, like our friend @looking_33 up there. I apologise for misreading your comment and will edit my reply to reflect this.