Ultimate Top Rope Solo Bungee Showdown
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- Today we compare and contrast the Avant bungee and the Kingsbury bungee for TR Soloing systems.
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I was going to add that the OG Kingsbury with the 1.5 was originally designed to have the cord go directly into the capture device keeper hole (micro traction), and that we have since added the option for the 3 mm basket hitch style on all 3 of our bungees now ☠️☠️☠️. Thank you for the fair review!
Oh no I've been using it off-label all along! Haha thanks for the info and the great product.
This post couldn’t have had better timing. In the past, my partner and I have just always accepted the faff of not using a bungee whenever we top rope soloed at home in Joshua tree or fixed and followed on shorter multipitch climbing trips. Since graduating, we plan to be spending a lot more time working remotely and climbing bigger objectives via fix and follow, so we both figured it was about time to get a bungee to make things a bit easier and streamlined than say, building our own. I’m glad to hear some first hand comparison between the two that you’ve experienced, and your points have definitely swayed me to PK’s product, specifically the one with the adjust due to the fact we would be swapping one lanyard after fixing and trading leaders.
Glad to have found this gem of a channel, great change of pace from that other reviewers / climbing breakdowns. Super objective and logic based. Very into it, keep it up and I’ll for sure be a long time viewer.
Thanks for your kindness, I love the rational, objective approach to climbing as a discipline and really try to convey that in the videos. I want everybody to realize how manageable hard and scary climbing can actually be, so I'm really happy to hear that you also appreciate that.
Grabbing a bungee is totally worth it, way comfortable, and using one just makes you feel kinda cool lol
Great review and nice to see a fellow TRS climber.
I was recently considering which one to buy. Using a soft stretch is personally inconvenient and a bit uncomfortable for me as well.
Thanks for the info and updates!
Thanks again man. Used to TRS probably less than ten times a year until we had the baby. Now it's mostly how I climb!
Thanks so much for this! Absolutely love the niche, detailed, and honest reviews.
One piece of video-making feedback: I was shocked at 5:45 that your main finding is so simple / straightforward, when you reported the main finding of the video -- "the Avant bungee does not function as well as the Kingsbury" (due to the Kingsbury's combination of static cord and bungee cord, which means that the stretch of the bungee kicks in over a more-precise range of distances-from-your-neck). Combined with your finding at 11:25, that the Super Kingsbury is your updated overall recommendation, this means that the main findings of the video could be summed up with a 1 minute intro in front of the moonboard. That being said, the rest of the video is excellent and useful! Still it might just be good to provide such an intro, both for the viewer not willing to watch the whole thing AND for the viewer like me who wants to watch the whole thing, but like to get a high-level overview to start things off :)
Again, thanks for making this! Super useful both to determine my purchase, and to just see these things in action.
Hey man, thank you for your honest and useful feedback. I'll definitely adopt that idea in the future, a quick summary followed up with "watch the entire video if you're a gear nerd and want all the nitty-gritty details." I tend to nerd out in my videos about all the intricacies related to climbing and I know it can be too long-form for people in the age of tik tok.
Def grab a bungee, way more comfortable than two webbing loops over the shoulders or whatever you're using now!
@@headpointhandbook Just ordered! Can't wait for more vids, thanks!
Great reviews! I'll be looking into getting one for sure. Long time connoisseur of home grown TR solo bungee rigs and a number of other trad orientated DIY tricks of the trade.
Thanks! I have couple other niche reviews and niche uses of conventional products planned.
Holy shit you trs with only a shunt 😳 you wild
Not too bad for me! A nice fat static, beefy quicklink, bungee, and general awareness keeps me safe.
I made my own with 1/8" shock cord with two knots on either end and a very small weak accessory biner. I had to premeasure where i wanted everything but it does the job well for less than $1. Avant one looks slick too. I think the breaking strength of 1/8" shock cord is 100lb and Hownot2 made a video breaking the Avant one. Seems ideal to just try and not hang yourself on the bungee either way.
I can't imagine a scenario where your device would slip about 4 feet as your bungee hooks on something, you turn away from the wall, and can't just slip your head out of the stretched bungee. I thought the hownot2 video was kinda silly, seems like a non-issue.
hello, my comment disapear so I rewrite it in a shorter style: you would probably not feel such a difference of bungeeness (well this word doesn't exist, but whatever) if you were using another capture device. Shunt is probably one of the worst device concerning feeding (and also concerning your safety), so you need a strong bungee action, with micro you would probably not notice this. I say that, but I don't own any commercial bungee.
bro ditch the shunt!!!! also the quicklink!
Haha I know, I get trashed for it all the time. Funnily enough, I ditched my old "safer" method of two micros on ovals once I started TRS projecting harder. The shunt makes it so simple and easy to slide a few feet down the rope to work hard cruxes. With a fat 10.5 static, a quicklink, a bungee, and general awareness, the primary failure mode of the shunt is totally eliminated. Bar the device completely exploding, which in theory could happen on a regular gri-gri belay(either TR or lead) I feel totally confident and trusting in the system.
@@headpointhandbookhave a look at the taz lov!
Have you tried using a Vergo? It slides smoothly, it’s super bomber, and it’s got a lever to descend like a grigri
@@somanayr I haven't. I have this weird, and probably irrational distrust of Trango gear. I'll look into some videos on it!