No they are not!! Punters are NOT people too!!! They're the guys in the corner of the locker room, off at the edge of the field, to whom no one speaks.
i think it had more to do with our punter (which contrary to most basic fans is actually a VERY important position because a bad punter will give the team incredibly good field position which has a serious trickle down effect.) getting destroyed with all the hits he was taking. If he was a good quarter back he would have been a backup quarterback not a punter. so parcels definitely made the right call.
For those who watch this video, please realize that Tom Tupa started 11 games at QB for the Cardinals in 1991. By 1999, he already thrown for over 3000 years in his NFL career before this game and started 13 games. He also did not become a full time punter until 1994. So a pretty cool story, but lets not forget Tom Tupa's origin story in the NFL. At the 3:45 mark the actual game announcer on the 2pt conversion says, "Tom Tupa, the holder and BACKUP QB"
@@TS-ef2gvit's not a lie though. He was the punter. Click bait isn't necessarily bad if it's true. They have to give you a reason to click on the video
They should have never pulled Tupa out. He was on a hot streak and the offense had just found its rhythm together before they switched QBs and ruined it
@@lionsden5123 ...LOL....you would have done better....sleep easy...I'd put 2 cents into that may have been Parcells worst coached game ever while proof exists it had the potential to be his most brilliant coached game.
Donovan Johnson ikr. If anything went differently the pats dynasty would not have happened and it would probably be the colts instead that would be the evil empire lol.
Watching a NFL game today at best is done to capture the feelings of the golden football age days.... today's game is a freaking joke bottom line...and I diligently try to never support any advertiser...let the weak in society play in that ignorance sandbox.
AfroNinja years but what kind of retarded rule is that? Play who ever the hell you want at whatever position you want. If the NFL is about who has he best football team why can't they use all there guys however they want? Kind like saying Tom Brady can only play 2 quarters then you have to switch to a different quarterback every game because that's the NFL rules
A pretty good one at that. He's now the offensive coordinator for his former high school varsity team in Brecksville Ohio and also serves as the recreational director for the city. A really good guy. Glad to see him get some recognition.
I remember finishing a game online with Tom Tupa as my 3rd string QB playing due to injuries in madden a decade or 2 ago when I played. They really should have made him more accurate than they did.
Testeverde had an amazing comeback 98 season throwing 29 TD's and just 7 INT's. Coming into 99 the Jets were actually most experts pick to go the Super Bowl and after Vinny went down you just knew it was all over.
i know right....why make gut decisions based on months or years of tape getting to know your backup QBs before the game? From a Hall of Famer coach who also had to juggle whether to leave his only punter in as QB? When he had another QB available who maybe had better stats and film to go off of?
Yuck. I hated this day. Jets were primed for AFC title run that year after going to the title game the year before and then Elway retired. And then Vinnie gets hurt on day 1. I didn't care what Tupa was doing. I knew the season was shot.
@The Waker Unfortunately for bitter haters like The Walker, the "+ etc + etc part" of the mix is 203 wins for Brady and 27 playoff wins (neither of which will ever be touched), and what by next year at this time will be 2nd place all-time in TD and in yards, 3rd all-time in QB rating, and 3rd all-time in TD/INT ratio, not to mention every Superbowl record and 5 rings. So yeah, the Patriots got lucky with the Tuck Rule 3 lifetimes ago. They merely parlayed that luck into the best NFL dynasty of all time.
@The Waker Bullsh*t. There have been 13 different competitive advantage scandals in the league since Deflategate. All teams bend whatever rules they can. The Patriots are like the one politician that the media focuses on because they did the bidding of a corporation that gave them a campaign contribution. That's the case with 90% of politicians, but one is made out to be the single example for some political or media-created reason. The Patriots are alleged to cheat when they do the same things every other team does, because they've been better than other teams for so long that rival owners want revenge. Deflategate was a total sham, as evidenced by the fact that the league never released any of the PSI readings from the rest of the league the next season. Remember, they were still involved in a court case--if they could have shown that "all of the PSI levels were normal, including in cold weather," they would have proven that "see, they had caught the one team whose balls weren't legal." They never made that case, and they never showed their results, even though they had 100% incentive to do so and nothing stopping them, and they also had shown complete eagerness to demonize the Patriots during this time (the Andrew Luck "PSI" graphic, for one example). So the only conclusions to why they didn't show those readings (to the public or in court) are either that their tests showed that other teams' footballs also lost pressure during the games (which would make perfect sense scientifically), or they never did the tests at all. Either way, that's Kabuki Theatre to only blame the Patriots when they knew their allegations not to be true. By the way, the Wells report also concluded in some of its footnotes that there was no deflation of their footballs, but Wells had hired a firm (Exponent) whose reputation is "always give the client the conclusion he wants to hear," and the league wanted to re-punish the Patriots over Spygate because they were bing criticized by the Jets, Ravens and Colts for purportedly botching it the first time.
Tupa stays in the game and the Jets win it. Not a doubt in my mind. And maybe they make the playoffs that year. Tupa could've thrown lefty and he still would've been better than Rick Mirer.
I was at this game. After Vinnie T left the Jets lost their mojo. Despite the score there was almost a sense of doom that the season was lost given the expectations. Tupa deserved to be in the game but he was a very good punter. I always thought Parcells worried about going down in 2 critical positions was not worth the risk. Pats were getting after him pretty hard. His TD passes were pretty awesome though coming in ice cold.
I was at this game. As a Pats fan. We had players tickets. Usually those are good seats but the teams owners hated each other because of the Parcells fiasco. They were upper deck, end zone. Pats safety Tebucky Jones have his tix to 4 of his boys who were behind me. When Vinny T was being carted off the were standing on their seats waving towels making ambulance siren noises. I thought all of Giants Stadium was going to kick the shit out of our section. They quickly shut up once Tupa tossed that bullet for a TD. Great pass coming in cold.
I meant the season as a whole was a kick in the nuts the part with belichick was like a cherry on top, I mean your 1 game away from the superbowl then next year opening day you lose your starting Qb dashing everyone's hopes and the season is lost then your head coach decides to retire after the season then his successor, after getting a million dollar raise to have him stay quits 1 day after getting the job writing I quit on a piece of napkin.
I remember this match. That was one of the firsts I watched when I was a kid and I can tell it played a big part of building my love for this awesome game!
Rules. It said in the vid if he kept playing the jets wouldn't be allowed to use him as a punter, so they decided to take him out so they had a punter and put the other dude in. Don't worry, I did a double take as well.
that was worded wrong by the narrator. he means tupa wouldn't have to be kicked out of the game if the coach decided to wait until the 4th to bring in the emergency qb.
You say he played QB in college... you are aware the Cardinals used him as their starting QB for 11 games in '91? Both Arizona and the Colts used him as a backup QB. 13 totals starts as QB, all years before this. He's a QB in Tecmo Super Bowl fer crissakes.
@Bigfriendly15 It's totally misleading. Tupa was a QB but he sucked, I remember reading an article about him where he said he knew if he wanted to stay in the league he had to switch to punter. But he was a QB first. He was taken in the 3rd round. He didn't make his first punt until his second season and even then he wasn't a full time punter. I'm a Colts fan and he was a QB in Indy.
I played football with Tom Tupa's oldest son in school. His dad was our offensive coordinator. Very smart man when it came to football, learned a bunch from him.
In 1989 as a member of the Phoenix Cardinals (For the younger NFL fans, before they were Arizona, they were the Phoenix Cardinals,) Tupa threw for 312 yards, and 3 TD's against the Patriots.
I was at that game and remember it well. Was so hyped for the season to start after falling short in the AFC championship the previous year. Definitely one of the darkest days in Jets history on so many levels (season instantly derailed, no more Parcells, Pats get future HOF head coach instead of us, etc).
They tried him for the better part of 3 years as a starting QB. Yeah he didn't make it as an NFL started but he was a legit QB2/QB3 in his youth. It's not like he wasn't still throwing sometimes in training camp and practices.
All great, but they left something out. If you are a long time Cards fan, you may remember Tupa started 11 games at QB for the Cardinals in '91 (and started 2 in '89, too), as well as being their Punter. But, this was the height of the Reggie White/Clyde Simmons/Jerome Brown era for the Eagles. The Redskins (Mann & Manley) and Cowboys (Haley) were pretty brutal to QBs, too. Tupa was sacked 24 times in those 11 games. Their starter, Timm Rosenbach was out for the season injured, and would only last 8 games before another season ending injury the next year. Rosenbach then wisely retired before being the Cardinals starting QB got him killed...
jdogma2003 If he played in the big ten in those years , just after Woody ??, I forget (I was young ) he definitely could take the pounding , and maintain his composure !!!
@@beckywatt5048 Woody was fired at the end of the 1978 season for punching an opposing player. Tupa was a quarterback under Earle Bruce just before John Cooper took over and made Kirk Herbstreit the quarterback.
Some other fun stats - Tom Tupa was selected to his first and only career Pro Bowl that season in 1999. Also, he had played the 3 seasons previous to this game for New England.
Tupa would also go on to win the Super Bowl with Tampa Bay in 2003...a team that also had Keyshawn Johnson and also originally drafted Vinny Testaverde.
probably so they didn't injure their only punter, and their Hall of Fame coach felt after all the reviews he had of Mirer that he was the better choice considering the situation.
Man, I was a season ticket holder for many years, sec 314 row 29 seats 5 and 6. Sat right next to Hot Rod. After the game, it felt like we were leaving a funeral.
Tom Tupa played QB at Ohio State AND was the punter. He was selected as a punter and possible backup QB. It wasn't like he only played QB in junior high.
Tom Tupa wasn't bad for a backup QB . He came off the bench and played often for the Cardinals when he first entered the league almost a decade earlier.
I see alot of comments about Adam Vinatari coming out in this game. Did yall all forget he was the Patroits kicker in Super Bowl 31 back in the 1996 season. He was the one who kicked the ball off and Desmond Howard returned it for a TD giving him the Super Bowl MVP.
As a Seahawks fan, I'm used to weird stuff like this...but this was a cool attempt. It's really hard to go with the flow sometimes, but these guys just kept trying. Respect!
Gary Hogeboom, who played for Dallas was the worst I ever saw. Take a 7 step drop just to hold on to it and get sacked for an even bigger loss. Either he was the worst ever or he was getting paid by other teams?
Tom Tupa was a 4-year punter and 3-year quarterback at Ohio State, starting at quarterback his senior season. In his first five NFL seasons, he was primarily a backup quarterback, and started eleven games for Phoenix (now Arizona) in 1991. He punted only six times in those five years, all in 1989 for Phoenix. He didn't become a full-time punter in the NFL until his sixth season, in Cleveland. It wasn't until 1994 that he became strictly a punter. So, while Tupa hadn't played QB in the NFL in several seasons, it's not like he was totally unfamiliar with the position.
LOL................yes Tom Tupa we know, thank you for clarifying that for us......we know this is you Tom Tupa , your fake Bruce Carriker user name don’t exist. I personally googled the name and no one bye the name Bruce Carriker has ever existed!! So..... keep calm ,settle down , we know this has to be you ,Tom ............. That plus : HE WAS A...... HE ALSO....... EVERY GAME HE PLAYED..... HE ...... AND....... WHEN HE WAS...... HE WAS NAMED THE..... HE , I, YOU , ME...................... Big give away Tom . Hey bye the way I’m big fan ! Go jets ! LOL !
I don't want to say anything against Tupa's incredible performance, but if you've never heard of George Blanda check out what he did at 43 years of age. During that season, Blanda, at age 43, had a remarkable five-game run. Against the Steelers, Blanda threw for three touchdowns in relief of an injured Daryle Lamonica. One week later, his 48-yard field goal with three seconds remaining salvaged a 17-17 tie with the Kansas City Chiefs. On November 8, he again came off the bench to throw a touchdown pass to tie the Cleveland Browns with 1:34 remaining, then kicked a 53-yard field goal with 0:03 left for the 23-20 win. In the team's next game, Blanda replaced Lamonica in the fourth quarter and connected with Fred Biletnikoff on a touchdown pass with 2:28 left in the game to defeat the Denver Broncos, 24-19. The following week, Blanda's 16-yard field goal in the closing seconds defeated the San Diego Chargers, 20-17. In the AFC title game against the Baltimore Colts, Blanda again relieved an injured Lamonica, completing 17 of 32 passes for 217 yards and 2 touchdowns while also kicking a 48-yard field goal and two extra points, keeping the Raiders in the game until the final quarter
1:11 Hey thanks for putting that ENORMOUS TEXT OVERLAY right on top of the only actual footage you include of Testaverde tearing his achilles. Since you said it during the narration, I really appreciate you overlay it in GIANT CAPITAL LETTERS so big that it prevents you from properly seeing it. Such a great editing move, very smart.
A lot of Jets fans with an inferiority complex in this comment section. Ive been a fan since 96'. There have been fans of the Pats since 1960, before that they were fans of the Giants because that was the closest team to Boston at the time. Bandwagoners didn't show up until 2007.
I liked your comment because I was a NE fan until the cheating scandals. They broke my sportsfan heat and now I hate NE. I give them no quarter. Patriots suck
I'm not sure you're remembering that correctly... this team was two years removed from a superbowl appearance (vs. Green Bay) and 1999 was one of only two non-winning seasons in almost three decades. If this was the 1989 Patriots I'm right there with you, but these guys were okay. aside form all those blown coverages in this video ;)
@@dougrogers8259 I jnow what your thinking. I realized this guys were the pre-cheating Pats, but the scandal just ruined the whole legacy for my sportsfan heart. The heart of a fan is a funny thing. Nonetheless, true, these guys aren't the guilty ones.
@@hopelessstrlstfan181 I was more replying to Paula's original statement, not so much yours :). But I mean technically these are the cheating Pats... and the cheating Jets too. Remember Roman Phifer, Bobby Hamilton and Brian Cox were all on this Jets team, but would leave to the patriots for those championship runs in the early 2000s. And the core of this team (Willie McGinest, Lawer Malloy, Ty Law, Ted Johnson, Tedi Bruschi, Troy Brown, Kevin Faulk et al) would also be on those 2000s Patriots teams. But your kidding yourself if you think all pro sports teams don't try to gain any incremental advantage they can, even when legally dubious. They all do it and most of the time no one cares. The Stealers we caught deflating balls like 2 years ago and no one cared.The Patriots are easy to hate because they win and they're jerks for the most part. So if/when they get "caught" it's more satisfying. It's easier on your ego to blame someone else rather then admit your own shortcomings or mistakes.
I *distinctly* remember this game - 1999 was my first year in college - Penn State had already opened the season with 3 humongous wins in a row, and this game was the first NFL game of the season shown - for the first time , I gathered round the big TV in the commons-room-area of the dorms and watched with several other people who gathered around - everyone was psyched for the first touchdown, then suddenly Vinny goes down... and they basically say how he's done for the season in the first 15 minutes of the game ...then word must have spread across the (Altoona) campus that there was an NFL game on with a Punter playing Quarterback, and people were gathered around a TV in Oak Hall ... and more people started filing in... and *THEN* Tupa throws a TD, and the place goes nuts, and soon enough it's like Standing Room Only, even people who didn't like the Jets or didn't even like football ... then shit just got REAL and the game got hectic. ... Tupa getting decked, Tupa throwing another TD, Tupa getting pulled for Mirer, Mirer sucking, a fake FG 1st Down that gets ruled short, and an INTERCEPTION TD FOR THE LEAD! And Mirer gives it away. I mean really now. And of course who the fuck else but Adam motherfucking Viniateri. What a game, what a season. What a time.
Nope, New York and Boston have a strong rivalry. I live in the Boston area, i think you're confusing younger generations with loyal fans. I've been a fan since the early 90's, and all those loses made all the victories and trophies so much sweeter!
I was implying "Younger Generation" as Bandwagoners. One and the same...Let's be honest, when's the last time you've seen a father or uncle/aunt 40+ bandwagon?
Don't forget Tom Tupa was not only a starting punter, but starting quarterback at Ohio State, too. He also had the first two-point conversion in NFL history as a Cleveland Brown in 1994. Great guy, too. :)
Definitely more big than fast, but I will say that Keyshawn Johnson made a lot of impact plays with the Jets, whereas on subsequent teams he was more of a reliable possession receiver and stout blocker.
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@@col.glover4134 no shit Sherlock
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The guy had a perfect QB rating, and they benched him
Full Jets
Tupa was probably more capable than history will remember. It just went against the current narrative of the time.
The god damn jets man...
bruh did you read it nfl rules say the emergency qb had to play the 4th quarter
What a great story, and I'm a Raider too. Ray Guy was a decent quarter back too.
Punters. Are. People. Too.
Liam Farrell to think of that punter started that whole game the jets would ve made the playoffs and no Belichick at pats
No they are not!! Punters are NOT people too!!! They're the guys in the corner of the locker room, off at the edge of the field, to whom no one speaks.
@@aspenrebel yes they are
@@aspenrebel fy.
aspenrebel fuck u
You take out the punter (with 2 tds) and put in the QB who throws 2 ints. Typical Jets
it really is, they acted like he was doing horrible.
That really is a Jets move
i think it had more to do with our punter (which contrary to most basic fans is actually a VERY important position because a bad punter will give the team incredibly good field position which has a serious trickle down effect.) getting destroyed with all the hits he was taking. If he was a good quarter back he would have been a backup quarterback not a punter. so parcels definitely made the right call.
He WAS the backup quarterback
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Finally remembered who Tim Teebow's throwing motion reminded me of.
Lmao that shit looked ugly af 😂😂
Here when Tebow is back in nfl as a f ing te for jags
@@leogonzalez6751 tupa form is ugly?
For those who watch this video, please realize that Tom Tupa started 11 games at QB for the Cardinals in 1991. By 1999, he already thrown for over 3000 years in his NFL career before this game and started 13 games. He also did not become a full time punter until 1994. So a pretty cool story, but lets not forget Tom Tupa's origin story in the NFL. At the 3:45 mark the actual game announcer on the 2pt conversion says, "Tom Tupa, the holder and BACKUP QB"
Yep. He also was the starter at QB for a tiny backwater school called (THE) Ohio State University. Click baity video title.
It’s stated in the video
3000 years lol
@@TS-ef2gv This wasn't mentioned at the time either. Media was like "he played a little QB in college."
@@TS-ef2gvit's not a lie though. He was the punter. Click bait isn't necessarily bad if it's true. They have to give you a reason to click on the video
All I can imagine is having this guy as your kicker in your fantasy league
hahah
He’s only a punter, no one has a punter rostered
@@jordansmith3597 I did
@@JaneNayes nigga why you lyin' , punter doesn't give you points so there is no role lol
@@Haylem There is a role. They punt. Also I am not black and I cannot die
They should have never pulled Tupa out. He was on a hot streak and the offense had just found its rhythm together before they switched QBs and ruined it
A grandmother from the crowd would of been a better choice than Rick Mirer
I could’ve done an equally poor job throwing interceptions, and chances are, I might have even done better.
@@lionsden5123 ...LOL....you would have done better....sleep easy...I'd put 2 cents into that may have been Parcells worst coached game ever while proof exists it had the potential to be his most brilliant coached game.
...your second guessing a HOF coach?
@@robertdore9592 Considering they lost that game... yea, the decision deserves criticism
Never knew this story. Pretty awesome... How much that 1 game changed NFL history!
Donovan Johnson ikr. If anything went differently the pats dynasty would not have happened and it would probably be the colts instead that would be the evil empire lol.
Light Yagami how come?
Exactly! Nail on the head!
Week 1 of the 1999 season changed the next 15+ years of football. Insane to think.
And then the Jets would have drafted Brady?
Legend has it this is the last time the Jets cheered for their QB
Mark Sanchez looked cold af his first year if ya don't remember
mike white v bengals yesterday
@@Sawyer08311 rip the dream.
Chad Pennington, Brett Favre was on his way to leading the Jets to the super bowl if he never gets injured.
Savage.
If that game was played today there would have been 6 roughing the passer calls, 12 pass interference and 39 defensive holding calls.
"PERSONAL FOUL! Insulting the quarterback's mama! Ball will be spotted on the one-yard line! Three consecutive automatic first downs!"
And the game would have taken 26 days to play.
You forgot 10 beer commercials and 4 fast food commercials.
NFL sucks nowadays you all are 100% correct.
Watching a NFL game today at best is done to capture the feelings of the golden football age days.... today's game is a freaking joke bottom line...and I diligently try to never support any advertiser...let the weak in society play in that ignorance sandbox.
they should have just kept him in. he probably could have won that who game and he would be a legend today lol
I would say he's still a legend
They couldn’t
AfroNinja years but what kind of retarded rule is that? Play who ever the hell you want at whatever position you want. If the NFL is about who has he best football team why can't they use all there guys however they want? Kind like saying Tom Brady can only play 2 quarters then you have to switch to a different quarterback every game because that's the NFL rules
Nfl is retarded. I would love to hear the Nfl's reasoning for it.
Wtf? That’s a badass punter
Area 214 ya like I said better than their started right now problay
He was also an NFL QB for his first few years and a primary starter for a season.
How bout them cowboys bro💪🏽
Punters are often assumed to be like place kickers. Punters are football players unlike place kickers who are often converted soccer players.
A pretty good one at that. He's now the offensive coordinator for his former high school varsity team in Brecksville Ohio and also serves as the recreational director for the city. A really good guy. Glad to see him get some recognition.
Madden needs to add a 99 overall ultimate legend for this guy
Tom Tupa Deserves That Distinction Due To How Accurate He Was
That would be hilarious, playing online against someone and
Oh God
Is that?!
Tom Tupa!
**Uninstalls Game**
They tried to break the man in half. @@lostsurferjames5
I remember finishing a game online with Tom Tupa as my 3rd string QB playing due to injuries in madden a decade or 2 ago when I played. They really should have made him more accurate than they did.
@@futuregohan4837 lol.. He threw a pick.. js
Testeverde had an amazing comeback 98 season throwing 29 TD's and just 7 INT's. Coming into 99 the Jets were actually most experts pick to go the Super Bowl and after Vinny went down you just knew it was all over.
Yeah. You almost had to be there to know that though. The Jets were positioned like The Steelers were in pick-a-year-from-the-late-70s.
6/10, 165 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT - "Take him out, get Mirer."
dumb af.
i know right....why make gut decisions based on months or years of tape getting to know your backup QBs before the game? From a Hall of Famer coach who also had to juggle whether to leave his only punter in as QB? When he had another QB available who maybe had better stats and film to go off of?
I remembered Tom Tupa. He was actually alright as an emergency quarterback
Marlon S. I seem to remember having a trading card of his where his position was listed as QB.
He came in the league as a Quarterback. Stayed in it as a punter
I remember him playing QB for the Browns
Most people don't know in his first start as a QB he threw 6 INTs against Phili in 1989. That contributed to him converting as a punter.
drowssapma Sammy Baugh was another player that comes to mind who played punter and QB. He also played safety. And then there's George Blanda.
That’s sad when a punter is a better qb than a emergency qb
It sounds a lot crazier than it was... Tupa was a QB in college and became a Punter in the NFL. Sort of like how a lot of WRs were QBs.
@@mattm8441 Tupa was a quarterback for the Cardinals in the early 90s even was a starter he converted to being a punter later in this career
Tupa was 6-10 and 2 TD's.
Bill Parcells should've allowed him to finish the game.
Tupa was a real quarterback. Not a real good quarterback, but he started 13 games at QB in his career.
As a Seattle fan, I can say it's sad when you have Rick Mirer at QB.
This is why Madden automatically makes your punter or kicker your 3rd string QB.
Miami Sports Network give him a W
And get him him broken in half with the ambulance coming out onto the field. Tommy Tupa, lol!
Miami Sports Network lol
"Oh not there's a man down"
- Pat Summerrall
Is this actually true?
One of the greatest games in Jets history!
Still lost.
Yuck. I hated this day. Jets were primed for AFC title run that year after going to the title game the year before and then Elway retired. And then Vinnie gets hurt on day 1. I didn't care what Tupa was doing. I knew the season was shot.
Remember this game. Was in my chair with my jaw on the floor watching a punter own a defense at least for a couple quarters haha
Parcells should have stuck with Tupa all year long. Tom was more than ready to have his Quarterback career comeback. He deserved it.
Eric Kilpatrick If he was black it wouldn't have happened.
He'd be given 3 years to destroy an organization before being benched.
Patriots injure a Jets QB: season ruined. Jets injure a Patriots QB: 5 Super Bowl championships.
He just happened to injure himself....nobody hit him....now bledsoe.....he was crushed breaking his collar bone
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The Waker Niggas like you hate just to hate Lmao don’t get mad because 3/4 of the whole league can’t come close to beating the patriots
@The Waker Unfortunately for bitter haters like The Walker, the "+ etc + etc part" of the mix is 203 wins for Brady and 27 playoff wins (neither of which will ever be touched), and what by next year at this time will be 2nd place all-time in TD and in yards, 3rd all-time in QB rating, and 3rd all-time in TD/INT ratio, not to mention every Superbowl record and 5 rings. So yeah, the Patriots got lucky with the Tuck Rule 3 lifetimes ago. They merely parlayed that luck into the best NFL dynasty of all time.
@The Waker Bullsh*t. There have been 13 different competitive advantage scandals in the league since Deflategate. All teams bend whatever rules they can. The Patriots are like the one politician that the media focuses on because they did the bidding of a corporation that gave them a campaign contribution. That's the case with 90% of politicians, but one is made out to be the single example for some political or media-created reason. The Patriots are alleged to cheat when they do the same things every other team does, because they've been better than other teams for so long that rival owners want revenge.
Deflategate was a total sham, as evidenced by the fact that the league never released any of the PSI readings from the rest of the league the next season. Remember, they were still involved in a court case--if they could have shown that "all of the PSI levels were normal, including in cold weather," they would have proven that "see, they had caught the one team whose balls weren't legal." They never made that case, and they never showed their results, even though they had 100% incentive to do so and nothing stopping them, and they also had shown complete eagerness to demonize the Patriots during this time (the Andrew Luck "PSI" graphic, for one example). So the only conclusions to why they didn't show those readings (to the public or in court) are either that their tests showed that other teams' footballs also lost pressure during the games (which would make perfect sense scientifically), or they never did the tests at all. Either way, that's Kabuki Theatre to only blame the Patriots when they knew their allegations not to be true. By the way, the Wells report also concluded in some of its footnotes that there was no deflation of their footballs, but Wells had hired a firm (Exponent) whose reputation is "always give the client the conclusion he wants to hear," and the league wanted to re-punish the Patriots over Spygate because they were bing criticized by the Jets, Ravens and Colts for purportedly botching it the first time.
Tupa stays in the game and the Jets win it. Not a doubt in my mind. And maybe they make the playoffs that year.
Tupa could've thrown lefty and he still would've been better than Rick Mirer.
Tupa could throw with his ass and be better than Rick Mirer.
Uh Tupa did throw lefty once. Did not end well
But ... But ... But .. Rick Mirer was from Notre Dame, so he must be a great QB, right?
Alexander Steiner IM ROLLING 😂😂😂
I was at this game. After Vinnie T left the Jets lost their mojo. Despite the score there was almost a sense of doom that the season was lost given the expectations. Tupa deserved to be in the game but he was a very good punter. I always thought Parcells worried about going down in 2 critical positions was not worth the risk. Pats were getting after him pretty hard. His TD passes were pretty awesome though coming in ice cold.
Loved the way Testaverde threw the ball! His long arms had a whipping effect that gave the ball velocity and accuracy.
I was at this game. As a Pats fan. We had players tickets. Usually those are good seats but the teams owners hated each other because of the Parcells fiasco. They were upper deck, end zone. Pats safety Tebucky Jones have his tix to 4 of his boys who were behind me. When Vinny T was being carted off the were standing on their seats waving towels making ambulance siren noises. I thought all of Giants Stadium was going to kick the shit out of our section. They quickly shut up once Tupa tossed that bullet for a TD. Great pass coming in cold.
Take any one of those moving parts and move them 2 inches in any direction and you alter the course of the NFL for years to come, unreal!
Huh.....?
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
what
If the RB didn't fumble the ball Vinny would not have injured his achilles.
NFL is all about referrees and the little yellow flags, everything Pats and Brady have accomplished comes from referees and penalty flags
this season was a kick in the nuts especially the way it ended with belichick going to new england
Jay yeah but that's using hindsight now.
I meant the season as a whole was a kick in the nuts the part with belichick was like a cherry on top, I mean your 1 game away from the superbowl then next year opening day you lose your starting Qb dashing everyone's hopes and the season is lost then your head coach decides to retire after the season then his successor, after getting a million dollar raise to have him stay quits 1 day after getting the job writing I quit on a piece of napkin.
Jay lol oh well yeah that's gotta hurt. Also knowing you lost a legend hurts as well.
Rick Mirer got beat out by a punter lol
For good reason, lol. Mirer literally blew the game.
The greatest bust in Seattle Seahawks history
Did nothing after his rookie season. Mirer was a joke of a pro qb.
Rick Mirer out of Notre Dame was sooo overhyped of a player. He had a decent rookie year but it was downhill from there.
The stories of him in Seattle going into games with 6 pass plays in total was his ultimate downfall. Couldn't throw to his left either.
I remember this match. That was one of the firsts I watched when I was a kid and I can tell it played a big part of building my love for this awesome game!
Gotta love the Jets coaching and overall teamwork against huge adversity. One of the best games of modern era
I have never understood why a coach will bench a "hot" player.
tim coker idfk either my high school coach does that dumb shit
tim coker I don't think looks have anything to do with it.
Adam Gardiner > Damn,I thought he was kind of cute!
Rules. It said in the vid if he kept playing the jets wouldn't be allowed to use him as a punter, so they decided to take him out so they had a punter and put the other dude in. Don't worry, I did a double take as well.
that was worded wrong by the narrator. he means tupa wouldn't have to be kicked out of the game if the coach decided to wait until the 4th to bring in the emergency qb.
Punters are people too
Juan almaraz *tuba
Allegedly
You say he played QB in college... you are aware the Cardinals used him as their starting QB for 11 games in '91? Both Arizona and the Colts used him as a backup QB. 13 totals starts as QB, all years before this. He's a QB in Tecmo Super Bowl fer crissakes.
Yeah, Cardinals fan here, I remember Tupa, the video is full of crap.
I think he was a punter but they chose him because of his qb experience
I was playing college football in that state in 91, remember seeing Tupa play for the cardinals as a QB.
@Bigfriendly15 It's totally misleading. Tupa was a QB but he sucked, I remember reading an article about him where he said he knew if he wanted to stay in the league he had to switch to punter. But he was a QB first. He was taken in the 3rd round. He didn't make his first punt until his second season and even then he wasn't a full time punter.
I'm a Colts fan and he was a QB in Indy.
When I heard the name I thought I recognised him as a QB.
A WR just played starting QB for the Broncos. I thought it was gonna be interesting but he only put up 13 yards
This is amazing!!! I can't even believe it!!! There was actually once a time when the Jets had a decent starting QB?! 😱
Rick Mirer didn't do the unthinkable. He sucked
Andy Suekoff this comment made me laugh more than it should have . Hahahaha
Excellent analysis
He didn't suck to the seahawks scouts back then. '93 draft 1st round pick - 2nd OVERALL, no less!
Done what he did Best > sucked
jo sg yea but Drew Bledsoe was picked right before him and it could have been Seattle’s pick if they had lost to New England the year before
Moral 1: The Jets need a drunk QB.
Moral 2: The story should have ended with Tupa being named the Patriots' head coach.
I played football with Tom Tupa's oldest son in school. His dad was our offensive coordinator. Very smart man when it came to football, learned a bunch from him.
Patrick Custer thanks for sharing - did u know this story at the time?
@@girl600podcast I didn't. He never told us stories about playing in the NFL. Just passed on knowledge of what he learned. Great guy.
This is the era when the Jets were actually a good team.
T. T. G. It didn't last long
I think the jets would have gone 9-7 had parcells inserted Ray Lucas as his QB right after the first game of the year.
I didn't know jets a good football team could be used in the same sentence.
Miggz 1Bay "Era" not specific "year"
T. T. G. 1997-2010 was a Jets era where the Jets actually had good teams
In 1989 as a member of the Phoenix Cardinals (For the younger NFL fans, before they were Arizona, they were the Phoenix Cardinals,) Tupa threw for 312 yards, and 3 TD's against the Patriots.
Before that they were the St. Louis Cardinals 1960-1987
@@keithrobinson1956 They were originally the Chicago Cardinals.
Shush you!! From a Pats fan.
@@Beardmania ok, before that they didn't exist.
I was at that game and remember it well. Was so hyped for the season to start after falling short in the AFC championship the previous year. Definitely one of the darkest days in Jets history on so many levels (season instantly derailed, no more Parcells, Pats get future HOF head coach instead of us, etc).
how old were you
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Tupa started his career as a QB for the Cardinals.
@Robert Otte, he was a pretty good QB out of Ohio State. This video is trying to make it sound like the guy never took a snap in his life.
They tried him for the better part of 3 years as a starting QB. Yeah he didn't make it as an NFL started but he was a legit QB2/QB3 in his youth. It's not like he wasn't still throwing sometimes in training camp and practices.
I’m not a huge NFL fan but I do enjoy odd off games like this that make American sports awesome.
They should've kept Tupa in the game as QB.
All great, but they left something out. If you are a long time Cards fan, you may remember Tupa started 11 games at QB for the Cardinals in '91 (and started 2 in '89, too), as well as being their Punter.
But, this was the height of the Reggie White/Clyde Simmons/Jerome Brown era for the Eagles. The Redskins (Mann & Manley) and Cowboys (Haley) were pretty brutal to QBs, too. Tupa was sacked 24 times in those 11 games. Their starter, Timm Rosenbach was out for the season injured, and would only last 8 games before another season ending injury the next year. Rosenbach then wisely retired before being the Cardinals starting QB got him killed...
@@craigcicerello624 Plus, they'd had to face LT twice every season.
When your punters better than Mark " Buttfumble" Sanchez 😂
Weldon Wright lol nice one 😂
Patriots fans be like "wait, where's Brady"
Riley Stroud what are u talking about the pats been around since the 60s
Diablo 2 Elite pvp guides that’s the points. Most pats fans are bandwagons
I do remember Bryan Cox though. His hit vs the Colts is one of the moments that define the Patriots Dynasty.
Riley Stroud Michigan
"I didn't know Brady wore 11"
"Ah yes. Rick Mirer. That's him."
- Seahawks fans.
I vividly recall Tupa's days as a QB at Ohio State. Probably THE most underrated QB in school history.
Tupa was the starting quarterback in college for Ohio State. So he knew how to play the position.
jdogma2003 If he played in the big ten in those years , just after Woody ??, I forget (I was young ) he definitely could take the pounding , and maintain his composure !!!
@@beckywatt5048 Woody was fired at the end of the 1978 season for punching an opposing player. Tupa was a quarterback under Earle Bruce just before John Cooper took over and made Kirk Herbstreit the quarterback.
That's why he got benched. Everyone knows Ohio State qb's can't hack it in the NFL. Just like Haskins, Pryor etc. lol
I LOVE the Jets and Pats rivalry!!
Me too! As a Pats fan I know it will be a tough game twice a year. Someday the Jets will own the Patriots... just not right now.
Julien Torres what rivalry?
Dude how is that even a rivalry lol
aka dallas806 It's New York vs Boston and they're both in the AFC East.
Worst rivalry ever if you want to call it that. Fail. Steelers and Ravens is a rivalry.
Some other fun stats - Tom Tupa was selected to his first and only career Pro Bowl that season in 1999. Also, he had played the 3 seasons previous to this game for New England.
When you realize Adam Vinitari has been playing for almost 20 years...
He is also the NFL's all-time leading scorer with 2, 673 points...
By 2019, he had been playing for 23 years (rookie year was 1996).
Tom Brady played against Antoine Winfield and Patrick surtain now he plays alongside Winfield jr 😂😂
@@j_c_d_b broooo 😳😳 shit lmao. Don't forget Asante Samuel Jr in the league now too, shit is crazy!!
Tupa would also go on to win the Super Bowl with Tampa Bay in 2003...a team that also had Keyshawn Johnson and also originally drafted Vinny Testaverde.
Why would they take Tupa out? 6 of 10 162 yards and 2tds, that's a fantastic stat line.
probably so they didn't injure their only punter, and their Hall of Fame coach felt after all the reviews he had of Mirer that he was the better choice considering the situation.
Best jets qb of all time
Namath?
Namath overrated
DeSean Jackson #Jaccpot #0ne0fone #1hunna Namath was trash and his stats prove it
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Man, I was a season ticket holder for many years, sec 314 row 29 seats 5 and 6. Sat right next to Hot Rod. After the game, it felt like we were leaving a funeral.
Tom Tupa played QB at Ohio State AND was the punter. He was selected as a punter and possible backup QB. It wasn't like he only played QB in junior high.
Tom Tupa wasn't bad for a backup QB . He came off the bench and played often for the Cardinals when he first entered the league almost a decade earlier.
TheAlfrulz He was a QB in Tecmo Super Bowl 1991, backing up Timm Rosenbach
Yark this punter better than a lot of qbs in the league. (You know who I'm talking about)
Eagles AreBest thought there was a freaking scratch on my screen lmaoo
Tom Brady?
I thought this was a hair on my screen 😂
better than aaron rodgers
Eagles AreBest you made me think there was a hair on my screen cuz ur pic
Thought this only happened in Madden.
I see alot of comments about Adam Vinatari coming out in this game. Did yall all forget he was the Patroits kicker in Super Bowl 31 back in the 1996 season. He was the one who kicked the ball off and Desmond Howard returned it for a TD giving him the Super Bowl MVP.
As a Seahawks fan, I'm used to weird stuff like this...but this was a cool attempt. It's really hard to go with the flow sometimes, but these guys just kept trying. Respect!
Belichick and Brady would have 0 rings if Tupa would've stayed in during that game.
Yeah OK
Austin Bernhard hahaha
Austin Bernhard belicheck didnt film the other teams practices back then🤔
Brady would have a ring if he played for the browns and had a pop Warner coach!
Clowers Hiball man, I don't think even Brady could win a ring in Cleveland
Pretty nice, man.
This is the kind of wackiness that makes football so great.
It's not wacky, the dude started quite a few games at QB before he ever joined the Jets. Tupa was an NFL QB long before that game.
best jets QB to this day
Never forget this game. It was an inspiration to all sports fans
An enigma wrapped in a mystery inside a riddle
I’m a pats fan but this is incredible
bandwagon
Great video ! Never knew about Tupa.
Rick Mirer was one of the worst NFL QBs ever
Gary Hogeboom, who played for Dallas was the worst I ever saw. Take a 7 step drop just to hold on to it and get sacked for an even bigger loss. Either he was the worst ever or he was getting paid by other teams?
No love for Nathan Peterman?
Rick Mirer is like the entitled kid that has no skill but is obligated to play
@Harry Engel I think that they just didn't like Danny White
AngryBeaver1984 well this guy looks wayy worse
Tom Tupa was a 4-year punter and 3-year quarterback at Ohio State, starting at quarterback his senior season. In his first five NFL seasons, he was primarily a backup quarterback, and started eleven games for Phoenix (now Arizona) in 1991. He punted only six times in those five years, all in 1989 for Phoenix. He didn't become a full-time punter in the NFL until his sixth season, in Cleveland. It wasn't until 1994 that he became strictly a punter. So, while Tupa hadn't played QB in the NFL in several seasons, it's not like he was totally unfamiliar with the position.
LOL................yes Tom Tupa we know, thank you for clarifying that for us......we know this is you Tom Tupa , your fake Bruce Carriker user name don’t exist. I personally googled the name and no one bye the name Bruce Carriker has ever existed!!
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Big give away Tom .
Hey bye the way I’m big fan !
Go jets !
LOL !
As they say, every punter has his day.
Damnnnn all those coaches go way back
Yeah there's a club like everything else.
blake bortles has never lost to the giants in the superbowl
You first have to get into the playoffs.
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5 Super Bowl Wins BABY!! Count 'em ..... 5 !!! Soon to be 6 !!!!
Neither have I
Cause he never went
I don't want to say anything against Tupa's incredible performance, but if you've never heard of George Blanda check out what he did at 43 years of age.
During that season, Blanda, at age 43, had a remarkable five-game run. Against the Steelers, Blanda threw for three touchdowns in relief of an injured Daryle Lamonica. One week later, his 48-yard field goal with three seconds remaining salvaged a 17-17 tie with the Kansas City Chiefs. On November 8, he again came off the bench to throw a touchdown pass to tie the Cleveland Browns with 1:34 remaining, then kicked a 53-yard field goal with 0:03 left for the 23-20 win. In the team's next game, Blanda replaced Lamonica in the fourth quarter and connected with Fred Biletnikoff on a touchdown pass with 2:28 left in the game to defeat the Denver Broncos, 24-19. The following week, Blanda's 16-yard field goal in the closing seconds defeated the San Diego Chargers, 20-17. In the AFC title game against the Baltimore Colts, Blanda again relieved an injured Lamonica, completing 17 of 32 passes for 217 yards and 2 touchdowns while also kicking a 48-yard field goal and two extra points, keeping the Raiders in the game until the final quarter
I remember that! He looked so slow and old...but he was clutch!
Testeverde's injury was the universe setting itself up for the legend of Brady & Belichick.
I can watch this so many times and never be disappointed
Bill Belly-ache sure loved Testeverde, ever since his Browns days
Willie needs to be in the HOF
BeastMode 21
You needs to be slapped in the face 😂😂👏
That dude was a bellichek system scrub 😜
Before people try to make more jokes about “this is the best Jets QB ever”..... Joe Namath
TheGuyShahid,,,,, They had Favre for hot second. He is without question the best Jets QB of all time. P
Not better than Namath, Farve was nearing the end of his career. Also Pennington wasn't too bad either.
Joe namath was horrible.
Joe namath is not worthy of being in the hall of fame.
Joe Namath is the most OVERRATED nfl player of all time and it isn’t even close
1:11 Hey thanks for putting that ENORMOUS TEXT OVERLAY right on top of the only actual footage you include of Testaverde tearing his achilles. Since you said it during the narration, I really appreciate you overlay it in GIANT CAPITAL LETTERS so big that it prevents you from properly seeing it. Such a great editing move, very smart.
Tupa also went on to play for the bucs and got a Super Bowl ring with them. He had a good career
ah the old NFL where it was about skill not flashiness
Yeah dudes now don't have skill at all. Clown
Skill? What's that? I thought QBs were all about name recognition and big pay day contracts.
lol the players in the nfl now would wipe the floor with the old players
6/10, 165 yards and 2 TDs? Wtf that's pretty good
He did have that really bad fumble, too.
Back before the Patriots even had "fans."
You realize pretty much everyone hates the Patriots, and they are by no means a bandwagon, right?
Mr. Gentlezombie I realize that you're pretty gay :o
WXLF LXRD Calls someone gay, uses an emoji.
lol not true
A lot of Jets fans with an inferiority complex in this comment section. Ive been a fan since 96'. There have been fans of the Pats since 1960, before that they were fans of the Giants because that was the closest team to Boston at the time. Bandwagoners didn't show up until 2007.
Historic Story - all these angles. Players Coaches - 🎞 Great piece. 👩🏾👍🏾
Great story. One of the best.
Danny White was the Cowboys punter and starting qb for years
Yep. People think Staubach QBd the 81 NFCC (Dwight Clark-'The Catch' game) but it was White.
Hall of Fame best jet qb (aside from Broadway Joe)
The good old days when the Patriots stunk.
Web Sleuth Will afc was terrible that year, boom
I liked your comment because I was a NE fan until the cheating scandals. They broke my sportsfan heat and now I hate NE. I give them no quarter. Patriots suck
I'm not sure you're remembering that correctly... this team was two years removed from a superbowl appearance (vs. Green Bay) and 1999 was one of only two non-winning seasons in almost three decades. If this was the 1989 Patriots I'm right there with you, but these guys were okay.
aside form all those blown coverages in this video ;)
@@dougrogers8259 I jnow what your thinking. I realized this guys were the pre-cheating Pats, but the scandal just ruined the whole legacy for my sportsfan heart. The heart of a fan is a funny thing. Nonetheless, true, these guys aren't the guilty ones.
@@hopelessstrlstfan181 I was more replying to Paula's original statement, not so much yours :). But I mean technically these are the cheating Pats... and the cheating Jets too. Remember Roman Phifer, Bobby Hamilton and Brian Cox were all on this Jets team, but would leave to the patriots for those championship runs in the early 2000s. And the core of this team (Willie McGinest, Lawer Malloy, Ty Law, Ted Johnson, Tedi Bruschi, Troy Brown, Kevin Faulk et al) would also be on those 2000s Patriots teams.
But your kidding yourself if you think all pro sports teams don't try to gain any incremental advantage they can, even when legally dubious. They all do it and most of the time no one cares. The Stealers we caught deflating balls like 2 years ago and no one cared.The Patriots are easy to hate because they win and they're jerks for the most part. So if/when they get "caught" it's more satisfying. It's easier on your ego to blame someone else rather then admit your own shortcomings or mistakes.
His throwing motion is so pure
I *distinctly* remember this game - 1999 was my first year in college - Penn State had already opened the season with 3 humongous wins in a row, and this game was the first NFL game of the season shown - for the first time , I gathered round the big TV in the commons-room-area of the dorms and watched with several other people who gathered around - everyone was psyched for the first touchdown, then suddenly Vinny goes down... and they basically say how he's done for the season in the first 15 minutes of the game ...then word must have spread across the (Altoona) campus that there was an NFL game on with a Punter playing Quarterback, and people were gathered around a TV in Oak Hall ... and more people started filing in... and *THEN* Tupa throws a TD, and the place goes nuts, and soon enough it's like Standing Room Only, even people who didn't like the Jets or didn't even like football ... then shit just got REAL and the game got hectic. ... Tupa getting decked, Tupa throwing another TD, Tupa getting pulled for Mirer, Mirer sucking, a fake FG 1st Down that gets ruled short, and an INTERCEPTION TD FOR THE LEAD! And Mirer gives it away. I mean really now. And of course who the fuck else but Adam motherfucking Viniateri. What a game, what a season. What a time.
If the Jets went to the superbowl that year, then all patriots fans would've been jets fans
Nope, New York and Boston have a strong rivalry. I live in the Boston area, i think you're confusing younger generations with loyal fans. I've been a fan since the early 90's, and all those loses made all the victories and trophies so much sweeter!
Space Pioneer he meant the bandwagoners
I was implying "Younger Generation" as Bandwagoners. One and the same...Let's be honest, when's the last time you've seen a father or uncle/aunt 40+ bandwagon?
Humble Dallas Fan The patriots had gone to the Superbowl like three years before this happened
Wrong i hate all new york teams equally
2:42 1999=great Defense, 2018=roughing the passer
Lol.
NFL today is joke
Coming to this video after what happened to Rodgers, man... they are cursed
Don't forget Tom Tupa was not only a starting punter, but starting quarterback at Ohio State, too. He also had the first two-point conversion in NFL history as a Cleveland Brown in 1994. Great guy, too. :)
What a game!
My god, how slow was Keyshawn Johnson. He got walked down on both long catches in this game
Definitely more big than fast, but I will say that Keyshawn Johnson made a lot of impact plays with the Jets, whereas on subsequent teams he was more of a reliable possession receiver and stout blocker.
Good for the brand