@@CrayonsYummyYummy get a shotgun without the use of the gunner vest or overkill vest. Makes room for other options while still keeping variety to new and different weapons that suit the loadout. Plus you get a revolver shotgun which is pretty awesome imo
@@vincenzopolimeni3561 But why the rifle kit tho? Wouldn't it be better to have the mobility of the regular pistol and also the akimbo for more pellets, so you can actually get 1 hit kills?
@@CrayonsYummyYummy you can get 1 hit kills without the akimbo, you just need an optic to remove all spread. Also snakeshot is broken on the kit, so the added range doesnt work and the snakeshot cant 1 shot like it can with the base pistol (no akimbo) ill also point out i tested this and am 100% sure base pistol can 1 shot without akimbo. The whole point of the kit would be to get a longer ranged version of the shotgun pistol, that of which can outreach the akimbo and base at the cost of mobility. It would be pretty awesome to see it use snakeshot and 1 shot to lower torso, arms or upper body if you will at the cost of range. In other words, i want it to be able to compete with the base shotgun class guns and function similarly. This kit really seems like a knockoff longbow and i was hoping that by making snakeshot function alongside the beholder kit it would allow the gun to be more fitting into multiple loadouts (shotgun or rifle)
The fact that the TYR has a better OSK range than the SAB-50 and Lockwood MK2 is so ridiculous. They neutered the hell out of the Bolt/Lever action Marksman rifles in this game.
@@asphyxiafeeling Absolutely, it's also true for the Shotguns. The 680, Haymaker, and Riveter are statistically better than anything from MW2, and it's not even close. Better range and handling by far.
I noticed that marksman rifles are crap in warzone mobile where they were absolute god tier in cod mobile. I still like to use them, but it's a LOT tougher to win against assault rifles than it used to be. Which, honestly, is probably more realistic, but this isn't a fucking simulator lol
@@Tuuvasoh yeah, that too! They should have reversed the unlock system. I wanted to add an under barrel attachment and ended up in Google trying to see why the fuck I couldn't! That was a silly oversight!
The Scarlet Laser + Akimbo + paired firing allows you to get some crazy hipfire one shots at obscene ranges. The key is that you have to remain still for the reticle to reach nearly 0 degrees.
Ace I love the content you make. Consider covering Helldivers 2. The content you make is fact based and stuff I can trust vs just the random new build youtube vid. Keep up the amazing work.
Yeah it’s annoying af. I get it for the open bolt weapons (although think it’s prolly not needed for cod) but for the revolver I just don’t get it tbh like sure it’s a heavy trigger but there’s not a delay like with an open bolt gun
I think it just takes some time to get used to. I felt the same way, until I added the stock attachment or JAK Kit to reduce the recoil. Plus when you consistently get 1 shot kills to the head you often don't have to spam it.
I had this problem at first, tip for you that changed my life: remap the fire button to R1. Much better feeling than having to pull a trigger down. Just takes a few games to get used to so you stop throwing grenades when you want to shoot. Doesn't change the bolt delay but helps a lot with your actual trigger response. also what bro above me said about not needing to spam because you get 1 shot kills is very true.
@@Adderflail id like to see it work with the amp, a revolving shotgun sounds cool imo. But yea it just puts it to regular which was super dissapointing along with the fact it can only 2 shot
Can anyone tell me on how to unlock the longbow. I can not activate it as an armory challenge (already 5/5 complete). I even finished the tasks to unlock the jak conversion kit. Still, I can not equip the longbow (base version is locked). I played zombies for hours and haven’t found the longbow. Why is this bug still in the game. I have the same issue with the striker 9 and multiple other weapons…
I kinda hate the Beholder kit. Everytime I try it, it seems like I get more hit markers than otherwise. I really wanted to like it too, but I just get more kills without it.
Great informational video as well, always great stuff 🔥 - actually really like the TYR - run a overkill pistol class with your rifle kit setup and the 9mm Daemon or the COR 45
Love the Northern mythology references. In this game you should honestly be able to equip two of the same guns. I could easily see myself use both snakeshot an rifle kit in the same loadout. Could be fun for camochallenge efficiency too.
This is the most fun and versatile weapon. it's a shotgun/rifle and handgun in one. one or two in hand? yes. Now if they cam make a meme full auto mode, then we're set!
The Tyr, Longbow, and soon the BAS-B lever-action... I just wish they'd make the MK2 viable. If the BAS-B lever-action isn't as good as the MK2 was in MWII, then I don't see the point. Hoping it's good.
If I have attachments to be unlocked by Daily challenges/wins the game should track the next one available over some stupid emblem no one is going to equip
This regular TYR has befn nerfed to an oblivion. Its still my most used weapon with 8k kills but i havent used it in over a month, its not the same, so inconsistent.
This gun at launch was basically unusable, i ignored it for ages until they buffed it because it was a slog to level up, so happy it's now not just another "crap tier gun"
How much damage does the shotgun attachment do? I wonder if its worth using the single tyr shotgun as a finisher weappn, basically switching to my pistol if I run out of ammo mid gunfight and using the shotgun spread to make hitting someone easier
If I remember correctly, it was roughly 100 DMG out to 8m with a well placed shot; from 8-12m, it was roughly 80DMG; and from 12-14m.5m it was ~30-70 DMG depending on how many pellets hit. These are just what I remember off the top of my head as I didn't feel it was necessary to save the exact values and I was just using them to calculate number of shots to kill within each range.
@@TheXclusiveAceok, thanks for the info! The first two damage ranges seem pretty good as ideally your opponent would already be low on health by the time you switch to your pistol
I think Snakeshots Akimbo is a bit of a red herring. Akimbo WITHOUT Snakeshots is the way to go with these. Snakeshot build has such a poor range and you have to put ALL pellets in the center mass or head in order to get the kill. Try taking Snakeshot off and believe me, you'll have much more fun with TYR Akimbo.
I hate the open bolt delay thing. Ik it has a longer trigger irl but still, when u pull the trigger all the way back the hammer goes forward and u shoot. Just like other guns. While with the open bolt it sorta makes sense since u have the big metal bolt going forward before u shoot. Idk always annoyed me with the revolvers since mw19
JAK "Beholder" Kit + Snakeshot ammunition = Pocket MTs-255 Also, I would like to see the comeback of ShAK-12 (a.k.a. Oden from MW2019) after we got this revolver, which uses the same ammunition.
It's balanced pretty well in my view and not OP. It's a high risk high reward weapon with a significant trigger delay to boot, so most people would prefer to run anything else.
I have odin's fury in one class. Running a sniper replacement as my secondary on an smg build. The idle sway is pretty bad and that helps when you want a secondary to pull out to take out a long range target because the delay doesn't matter as much since you already have the drop on them but it guarantees you make that shot. I use the build on Terminal a lot to take out snipers before I run across outside or clear the kitchen behind C before moving in
Also, since you'd be running a scope on that class, having the delay plus better stability means it's even easier to preshoot and peak corners while scoped without any of the downsides like the negative sway from ullr's fury. It's nice for niche playstyles and better than the other triggers for clearing sightlines
Missed opportunity to title it as “is the Tyr Top Tier?”
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@@mattc7420 S-Tyr lol
That would've been funny as fuck ngl
Sir you win
The rifle kit after the buff is probably one of the most fun guns to use in the game imo
It would be way more fun if you could combine it with snakeshot, bit of a missed oppertunity there
@@vincenzopolimeni3561 Why tf would you do that tho
@@CrayonsYummyYummy get a shotgun without the use of the gunner vest or overkill vest. Makes room for other options while still keeping variety to new and different weapons that suit the loadout. Plus you get a revolver shotgun which is pretty awesome imo
@@vincenzopolimeni3561 But why the rifle kit tho? Wouldn't it be better to have the mobility of the regular pistol and also the akimbo for more pellets, so you can actually get 1 hit kills?
@@CrayonsYummyYummy you can get 1 hit kills without the akimbo, you just need an optic to remove all spread. Also snakeshot is broken on the kit, so the added range doesnt work and the snakeshot cant 1 shot like it can with the base pistol (no akimbo) ill also point out i tested this and am 100% sure base pistol can 1 shot without akimbo. The whole point of the kit would be to get a longer ranged version of the shotgun pistol, that of which can outreach the akimbo and base at the cost of mobility. It would be pretty awesome to see it use snakeshot and 1 shot to lower torso, arms or upper body if you will at the cost of range. In other words, i want it to be able to compete with the base shotgun class guns and function similarly. This kit really seems like a knockoff longbow and i was hoping that by making snakeshot function alongside the beholder kit it would allow the gun to be more fitting into multiple loadouts (shotgun or rifle)
The fact that the TYR has a better OSK range than the SAB-50 and Lockwood MK2 is so ridiculous. They neutered the hell out of the Bolt/Lever action Marksman rifles in this game.
Felt like Sledgehammer went out of their way to make a lot of better guns in MW2 mid in this game
Not to mention the guard and underbarrel bugs on the Mk2 attachments 😢
@@asphyxiafeeling Absolutely, it's also true for the Shotguns. The 680, Haymaker, and Riveter are statistically better than anything from MW2, and it's not even close. Better range and handling by far.
I noticed that marksman rifles are crap in warzone mobile where they were absolute god tier in cod mobile. I still like to use them, but it's a LOT tougher to win against assault rifles than it used to be. Which, honestly, is probably more realistic, but this isn't a fucking simulator lol
@@Tuuvasoh yeah, that too! They should have reversed the unlock system. I wanted to add an under barrel attachment and ended up in Google trying to see why the fuck I couldn't! That was a silly oversight!
The Scarlet Laser + Akimbo + paired firing allows you to get some crazy hipfire one shots at obscene ranges. The key is that you have to remain still for the reticle to reach nearly 0 degrees.
Yep, and as you said, shoot both pistols at the same time to maximise the accuracy and hip fire reset
Patched?
The Jak beholder rifle kit is insane
Is the the lever action sig spear thing
"Hey what do you want?"
"I want a shotgun, sniper, or revolver in one which I can put it my pocket."
"Alright, here you go."
TYR is based on RSH-12 Russian revolver
Kiappa Rhino is crying rn
its basically a russian S&W 500
Ace I love the content you make. Consider covering Helldivers 2. The content you make is fact based and stuff I can trust vs just the random new build youtube vid. Keep up the amazing work.
Unfortunately, Helldivers doesn’t interest me at all so I won’t be covering it. I appreciate the kind words and support!
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The open bolt delay and/or revolver action is very noticable on controller. Combined with the huge kick it doesn't feel good at all to use
Pure opinion. I dont notice a difference.
Yeah it’s annoying af. I get it for the open bolt weapons (although think it’s prolly not needed for cod) but for the revolver I just don’t get it tbh like sure it’s a heavy trigger but there’s not a delay like with an open bolt gun
I think it just takes some time to get used to. I felt the same way, until I added the stock attachment or JAK Kit to reduce the recoil. Plus when you consistently get 1 shot kills to the head you often don't have to spam it.
Doesn't Ace play on controller meaning it is entirely a you issue?
I had this problem at first, tip for you that changed my life: remap the fire button to R1. Much better feeling than having to pull a trigger down. Just takes a few games to get used to so you stop throwing grenades when you want to shoot. Doesn't change the bolt delay but helps a lot with your actual trigger response. also what bro above me said about not needing to spam because you get 1 shot kills is very true.
Just curious, how does the snakeshot interact with the Aftermarket part? The advanced stats seemed bugged when I tried to combine the 2.
thats what im trying to figure out
Snake shots revert it to normal Tyr stats. Honestly they should just disable snakeshots on the AMP
@@Adderflail id like to see it work with the amp, a revolving shotgun sounds cool imo. But yea it just puts it to regular which was super dissapointing along with the fact it can only 2 shot
Do not recommend, it's still a two shot kill, you won't have a good time.
I want the MTS-255 back
Can anyone tell me on how to unlock the longbow. I can not activate it as an armory challenge (already 5/5 complete). I even finished the tasks to unlock the jak conversion kit. Still, I can not equip the longbow (base version is locked). I played zombies for hours and haven’t found the longbow. Why is this bug still in the game. I have the same issue with the striker 9 and multiple other weapons…
Rifle kit isn't complete if you're not using high grain rounds to push it past 22m
literally my favorite secondary. Big Irons for the win
I kinda hate the Beholder kit. Everytime I try it, it seems like I get more hit markers than otherwise. I really wanted to like it too, but I just get more kills without it.
For sure a controller gun… It’s usable with mouse and keyboard, but aim assist is very helpful with this gun.
Great informational video as well, always great stuff 🔥 - actually really like the TYR - run a overkill pistol class with your rifle kit setup and the 9mm Daemon or the COR 45
Love the Northern mythology references. In this game you should honestly be able to equip two of the same guns. I could easily see myself use both snakeshot an rifle kit in the same loadout. Could be fun for camochallenge efficiency too.
Ppl body me with this all the time . Hate this shit
This is the most fun and versatile weapon. it's a shotgun/rifle and handgun in one. one or two in hand? yes. Now if they cam make a meme full auto mode, then we're set!
The Tyr, Longbow, and soon the BAS-B lever-action... I just wish they'd make the MK2 viable. If the BAS-B lever-action isn't as good as the MK2 was in MWII, then I don't see the point. Hoping it's good.
shout out for calling the pistol by its actual name. most UA-camrs call it the T-Y-R and it kills me
This is true but every gun's name is capitalized in the game if I remember correctly. @@codeman2036
@@codeman2036 pretty sure every gun name is written in caps though
I like setting this thing up as a sniper while running an smg
If I have attachments to be unlocked by Daily challenges/wins the game should track the next one available over some stupid emblem no one is going to equip
I’m just here to say that we all appreciate your perfectly done and informative videos! 😎
This regular TYR has befn nerfed to an oblivion. Its still my most used weapon with 8k kills but i havent used it in over a month, its not the same, so inconsistent.
This gun at launch was basically unusable, i ignored it for ages until they buffed it because it was a slog to level up, so happy it's now not just another "crap tier gun"
Who needs a vest or perk giving you a 2nd primary when you have an effective slug shotgun for free?
Yeah, a double action revolver shouldn’t have a delay like this. Or at least let me cock the hammer for the first shot
Quick question at what level does the conversion kit slot unlock?
This gun is beyond fun in warzone mobile if you're good at hitting!
All this time ive been calling it the (Tee-Why-Are) and not the (Tier)
Anyone else call it the T.Y.R. Letters instead of trying to figure out if it is tire or tier
how did you get that crosshair in snakeshot build ???
Please tell
Favorite secondary from the default classes
Suffered throughout my levelling up due to the too short range.
The attachment names on this gun are metal as hell
Norse mythology goes hard. *Now please bring back the Oden, Sledgehammer*
How much damage does the shotgun attachment do? I wonder if its worth using the single tyr shotgun as a finisher weappn, basically switching to my pistol if I run out of ammo mid gunfight and using the shotgun spread to make hitting someone easier
If I remember correctly, it was roughly 100 DMG out to 8m with a well placed shot; from 8-12m, it was roughly 80DMG; and from 12-14m.5m it was ~30-70 DMG depending on how many pellets hit. These are just what I remember off the top of my head as I didn't feel it was necessary to save the exact values and I was just using them to calculate number of shots to kill within each range.
@@TheXclusiveAceok, thanks for the info! The first two damage ranges seem pretty good as ideally your opponent would already be low on health by the time you switch to your pistol
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PS5
Some dude downed me in two shots with this had to see if they buffed this
Could you start adding a hardcore shot range?
I love that gun! So fun to use
I think Snakeshots Akimbo is a bit of a red herring. Akimbo WITHOUT Snakeshots is the way to go with these. Snakeshot build has such a poor range and you have to put ALL pellets in the center mass or head in order to get the kill. Try taking Snakeshot off and believe me, you'll have much more fun with TYR Akimbo.
Tells a lot about gunbalance if samegun is both
Hey, the SPW 40MM Drill is suddenly missing from the MW2 guns. Anyone know what happened? Love it for Ground War
Hey Ace, love ur work but where are the under water stats??? May can you compile into 1 for 3 guns $ 1 for 2?? Dunno. Cheers
I love the Tyr but what is the point of some of the attachments like Odin's Judgement ? That puzzles me soo much.
I hate the open bolt delay thing. Ik it has a longer trigger irl but still, when u pull the trigger all the way back the hammer goes forward and u shoot. Just like other guns. While with the open bolt it sorta makes sense since u have the big metal bolt going forward before u shoot. Idk always annoyed me with the revolvers since mw19
An interesting way to rebalance the "Odin's Judgement" would be to have it with the smallest pre-fire delay but lowest rate of fire.
My current secondary weapon....it's a beast on hardcore. The first optic with the laser is outstanding.
It's fun if you use it a lot and get snappy one shots with it as a backup weapon at close and medium range. It's high risk high reward however
Can you please explain the damage profile of the conversion kit with snakeshot?
The same as the base gun
@@Adderflail that's whack
I love hand cannons. In real life and in games. In games though, you aren’t breaking your wrist 😂
anyone having a glitch where you you can't use some attachments, after market parts or guns?
Hopefully they bring back MVP highlights
JAK "Beholder" Kit + Snakeshot ammunition = Pocket MTs-255
Also, I would like to see the comeback of ShAK-12 (a.k.a. Oden from MW2019) after we got this revolver, which uses the same ammunition.
Working on this right now so I can put the kit on it. Tested it in private match. OOO WEE!!!
I have a long sniper Tyr build I use, for when I want to grind out a shotgun or SMG - and *not* have to give up my vest choice.
honestly my favorite mw3 pistol, wish it had better irons tho...
Ullr is a delicious libation.
I use the ali trigger, because I'm gonna give it more time to recenter after every shot anyway
Thank you for not telling me how "broken" every gun is.
I wish mw3 included the damage ranges too like cod mobile does
I’m use the gun like a sniper, with a sniper scope and is fun to use
Works best with a shotgun since you can take a better vest while covering long range
Still doing gun guides
*with a delay.
What camo is that blue one? I like it!
Whats up when the damage range was shown, i saw the Stinger having a one shot kill potential, was that just an error ?
Nvm it's a 6 shot
For the snakeshot build i would swap the laser for the breacher muzzle
Straight worse
Why? Isn't that the one that gives you better melee damage?
@@sebbepersson6819 and better hip fire accuracy
@@Adderflail that means you tried it?
@@sebbepersson6819 AND better hip spread
My Favorite play pocket sniper...
Seems like a pretty op gun. Weird you barely see it.
It's balanced pretty well in my view and not OP. It's a high risk high reward weapon with a significant trigger delay to boot, so most people would prefer to run anything else.
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Outlaw in 2024:
I love you Ave!
Hey, can you do the MW2 guns in MW3?
He made a vid 3 months ago on that
Wow! So glad you do what you do. Information and positivity. You sir are a legend ❤
Such a bummer when you get the akimbo (no snakeshot) version of this in gunfight.
So you experience a 90ms delay when you try to shoot the gun. You used that to calculate the real rate of fire but left it out of the ttk?
I left it out of the TTK for the first shot only since technically, TTK is calculated from the moment the first shot fires.
I have odin's fury in one class. Running a sniper replacement as my secondary on an smg build. The idle sway is pretty bad and that helps when you want a secondary to pull out to take out a long range target because the delay doesn't matter as much since you already have the drop on them but it guarantees you make that shot. I use the build on Terminal a lot to take out snipers before I run across outside or clear the kitchen behind C before moving in
Also, since you'd be running a scope on that class, having the delay plus better stability means it's even easier to preshoot and peak corners while scoped without any of the downsides like the negative sway from ullr's fury. It's nice for niche playstyles and better than the other triggers for clearing sightlines
deagle still better but i guess this is good as a sniper
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