What are Uefa’s new Champions League changes? 😳 Simon Jordan & Trevor Sinclair REACT

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  • @timw2007
    @timw2007 2 роки тому +135

    I'd like to see Tigers introduced. Have them on the sidelines to start off with and then maybe introduce them on the pitch. Spice it up a bit.

    • @kaz3444
      @kaz3444 2 роки тому +4

      I had to read this twice, wtf lol

    • @Christopher_J
      @Christopher_J 2 роки тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @misterpractical
      @misterpractical 2 роки тому +6

      Like Gladiator?
      Maximus vs Tigris of Gaul?
      That would be EPIC.

    • @leejones6286
      @leejones6286 2 роки тому +16

      It would help the United players start running

    • @freeandeasyyeahright
      @freeandeasyyeahright 2 роки тому +7

      @@leejones6286 United fan here, and this made me chuckle! 😂🤣

  • @thomaspower6914
    @thomaspower6914 2 роки тому +95

    The ESL didn't die in 2021, it was just a warning as to what European football will look like in the near future... It's called the UEFA Champion's League, which is gradually morphing into what most sensible fans despise, protectionism for the wealthy and no reward for sustained excellence. How I miss the times of the European Cup, UEFA Cup and Cup Winner's Cup

    • @jakecook4816
      @jakecook4816 2 роки тому +3

      Simon said that from the start and he’s not wrong, neither are you.

    • @thomaspower6914
      @thomaspower6914 2 роки тому +3

      @@jakecook4816 Absolutely👍 The moment qualification changed from top 2 to top 4, the gap between elite and everyone else got larger

    • @Veyron1967
      @Veyron1967 2 роки тому +1

      Principle is fine but UEFA have seen the future and they know full well that the oil-clubs will dominate and devalue their competition if there isn't some kind of failsafe for the clubs who attract most of the revenue. It has got to operate as a business, whether you like it or not.

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 2 роки тому

      @@thomaspower6914 At least in the current UCL format you qualify on merit

    • @thomaspower6914
      @thomaspower6914 2 роки тому +1

      @@rohithraman6488 on what merit may I ask?

  • @miamitten1123
    @miamitten1123 2 роки тому +63

    Nottingham Forrest should get a call since they won it back-to-back.....right 😑

    • @cryp35
      @cryp35 2 роки тому +2

      Counting only last 5 seasons... Forrest unfortunately help UEFA with very little if not zero 😆

    • @connorLM10
      @connorLM10 2 роки тому +6

      Tbf it's probably only 10 years or so until champions league spots reach down to 4th place in the championship at this rate

    • @FootyPolitics
      @FootyPolitics 2 роки тому

      @@connorLM10 😂😂😂

    • @RK-zf1jm
      @RK-zf1jm 2 роки тому

      well they wouldnt be in for long so yeah that would be okay

    • @jamiegordon5242
      @jamiegordon5242 2 роки тому

      Who

  • @fullclipzzz1278
    @fullclipzzz1278 2 роки тому +16

    Trev gets an electric shock Everytime city are brought up

  • @jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980
    @jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980 2 роки тому +33

    Here is a mad idea as it's called "The Champions League" how about just have "League Champions" in it.

    • @leeboglazersout1958
      @leeboglazersout1958 2 роки тому +4

      Because that’s too much like common sense for the FA

    • @Alexander-kc8oq
      @Alexander-kc8oq 2 роки тому +7

      Or just go back to calling it the European Cup.

    • @arsmaster
      @arsmaster 2 роки тому

      Lol because nobody will watch it on tv and it won’t make any money.

    • @fitnessbalance7924
      @fitnessbalance7924 2 роки тому +5

      because you'd only have 5 maybe 6 strong teams in it. That wouldn't make enough money. And it would be boring

    • @jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980
      @jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980 2 роки тому +4

      @@Alexander-kc8oq it was more of a Champions League then as it is now the teams in it deserved it by winning their own domestic leagues and not failing to win it.

  • @user-bu9nb8wr6e
    @user-bu9nb8wr6e 2 роки тому +29

    This is moving towards top clubs being automatically entered.

    • @grassrootsfootball225
      @grassrootsfootball225 2 роки тому +1

      You will still have to at a bare minimum finish in the top 5, Manchester united for example would not be omitted next season it would be spurs

    • @redboyjan
      @redboyjan 2 роки тому +1

      They make more money so it's obvious they want to cheat teams in there

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 2 роки тому +52

    UEFA are just as bad than European Super League bosses. But where's all protest now with this new rule for Champions League in 2024. Plus the major media haven't talked about this and critical on it, but fair play to Talksport to bring it up.

    • @thomaspower6914
      @thomaspower6914 2 роки тому

      The culprits for the ESL were our own clubs so protests were easy to organise. UEFA protestors would have to travel all the way to Switzerland (or wherever they are!) and stand at the front door

    • @grassrootsfootball225
      @grassrootsfootball225 2 роки тому

      UEFA have been backed into a corner because of the superleague, they have clearly compromised but they are the authority on the game not the club owners

    • @aamslfc
      @aamslfc 2 роки тому +3

      It's the hypocrisy that gets me - fans and clubs and media screamed and protested endlessly about the Super League, which was ALWAYS intended to be a Champions League replacement tournament, but they've made barely a squeak about these changes even though it's the ESL but with Uefa slapped on the front of the name.

    • @myhatmygandhi6217
      @myhatmygandhi6217 2 роки тому

      @@aamslfc football fans are the worst. They'll go along with this new Champions League like good little sheep. Hypocrites!

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      yep. That why it’s a mockery this. And what is the purpose of europa league and conference ? To see who the best 6/7th teams in Europe are??

  • @paulgray7669
    @paulgray7669 2 роки тому +11

    I'm just glad Shankly, Stein, Nicholson and Busby aren't around to see what's happening in football at the moment.

    • @hewhoknowsknows
      @hewhoknowsknows 2 роки тому +4

      Well said mate. All of them real footballing men and legends!

    • @redboyjan
      @redboyjan 2 роки тому

      They'd watch local football

  • @shoji-josuzuki1641
    @shoji-josuzuki1641 2 роки тому +41

    I miss the days when teams like Rosenborg, Valerenga, Galatasaray, Dynamo Kiev, Panthanaikos, etc played in the Champions League, had some good players and were a genuine danger at times.
    Sure they may be in it from time to time now but most big clubs are expected to beat them.
    If they are going to make the competition bigger then fine, but let's stop making it bigger for the benefit of the richest leagues.
    Let's make it bigger and make all the league winners go into the competition again.
    Then once all the league champions are in the group stages, they can add 2nd, 3rd, 4th place teams etc and have qualifiers to battle over the remaining spaces.
    Sure on paper at first people might scoff at the idea of having some of the minnows of Europe being in the competition instead of the 4th best team in England, but these minnows will only grow stronger if given a chance.
    The more they are allowed to participate the better the players they will produce and the stronger the competition will become.
    Make the Champions League about the champions again and not just a competition for the most rich and popular clubs!

    • @Matthew-bu7fg
      @Matthew-bu7fg 2 роки тому +3

      Valerenga haven't qualified for the Champions League proper since 1985 where they were beaten 4-0 on aggregate by Zenit so goodness knows why you mentioned them.

    • @carnalea2424
      @carnalea2424 2 роки тому +2

      UEFA are scared of the BIG clubs setting up the ESL. They know that most people these days would rather watch Liverpool-Madrid than Rangers-Leipzig. It's only older fans (and I'm one!) who would like more 'less fashionable' teams to get to the group stage. The TV companies wouldn't pay so much for games not involving the leading 12-20 teams in Europe. And UEFA is a money grabbing organization - just like FIFA and the PL.

    • @shoji-josuzuki1641
      @shoji-josuzuki1641 2 роки тому +1

      @@Matthew-bu7fg because I live in the past clearly lol
      In all honesty it was probably my love for John Carew that made me think they were better than they were.
      With that said, even when they last won their domestic league in the early 2000s (I think) , it would have been nice for them to go into the Champions League group stages instead of getting knocked out in qualifying stages.
      That's my point, that group stage appearance would have been huge for a club like them.
      They could attract better players, keep their better players and would benefit massively from a financial point of view even if they finished last with 0 points.
      I'm fed up of the Champions League being a competition for the big clubs only with the smaller clubs only really being there as feeder clubs for them.
      The same way grass roots and lower league football needs help, the smaller European leagues need help too and they'll only get that if they are given a fair opportunity to be in the competition.
      If you win your top domestic league, you should quality for the group stages.
      Let the big clubs who aren't good enough to win their own leagues fight it out in the qualifiers.
      I totally accept that what I'm saying is idealistic and naive of me and will never happen but this is just my opinion on how it should be.

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому +2

      I would rather the minnows than 4th or even 3rd in England.

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому +1

      That why it’s a mockery this. And what is the purpose of europa league and conference ? To see who the best 6/7th teams in Europe are??

  • @jeffbruce1174
    @jeffbruce1174 2 роки тому +16

    When it was the European Cup and the UEFA cup you had a perfect balance of champions in one competition and very good teams on the up mixed with established European teams in the other. In fact the UEFA cup at times proved the more difficult to win with the quality of teams in it. Now you have a watered down Champions League and secondary competitions that most teams don’t want to be in unless they get as far as the semi finals.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 роки тому +1

      There is nothing wrong with a champions league but as a first it should be the winners of every countries league that automatically get into the groups stages.
      There are league winners that do not even get into the groups stages and have to go through a very unfair early qualification rounds and will never get to the next level as they cannot get access to the funds.

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      Well said.
      That why it’s a mockery this. And what is the purpose of europa league and conference ? To see who the best 6/7th teams in Europe are??

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      @@bighands69 yes exactly.

    • @grassrootsfootball225
      @grassrootsfootball225 2 роки тому

      @@bighands69 mate the winners of Poland for example are never going to win it, the top 5 leagues have more than 1 elite club therefore merit more places... They should not be awarded a 5th place but this is not what the super league were proposing so why you touting it's the same.. ignorance man, it's clearly a compromise from UEFA, blame the billionaire owners who coerced them into change

    • @jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980
      @jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980 2 роки тому +2

      @@grassrootsfootball225 then those clubs should go and win the league then& earn the right to play in it.

  • @chriser555
    @chriser555 2 роки тому +31

    More group games. Less semi finals.
    Fantastic

    • @oceanwaves657
      @oceanwaves657 2 роки тому +1

      Less semifinals?!!

    • @Fabszs81
      @Fabszs81 2 роки тому +7

      @@oceanwaves657 semi finals will be one leg only

    • @oceanwaves657
      @oceanwaves657 2 роки тому +1

      @@Fabszs81 Then all the KO games should be play in single leg.

    • @Fabszs81
      @Fabszs81 2 роки тому +3

      @@oceanwaves657 idk anymore man of it’s not broken don’t fix it

    • @simon5evans52
      @simon5evans52 2 роки тому

      Fewer.

  • @arsmaster
    @arsmaster 2 роки тому +14

    That image of Simon on the thumbnail 😂

    • @DaleSteel
      @DaleSteel 2 роки тому +2

      They always have stupid pictures of him lol

  • @RedDevil_Joe
    @RedDevil_Joe 2 роки тому +56

    If in a couple of years United get put into the CL cause of club history or status or something without properly qualifying, I’d genuinely want us to reject it, we won’t of course 😂 but it’s truly absurd

    • @paulhirst7602
      @paulhirst7602 2 роки тому +4

      It is absurd yes...but like FIFA it's all about money, UEFA are showing their true colours here again. They pander to the needs of the continent's biggest clubs because their involvement generates more cash for their organisation. In the same way FIFA are desperate for a biennial World Cup and having a bloated tournament from 2026 with 48 teams.

    • @DaleSteel
      @DaleSteel 2 роки тому

      Leeds united?

    • @grassrootsfootball225
      @grassrootsfootball225 2 роки тому

      In a couple of years well back near the top son worry not 🤫

    • @londontalks6371
      @londontalks6371 2 роки тому

      @@DaleSteel did they win it

    • @DaleSteel
      @DaleSteel 2 роки тому

      @@londontalks6371 yes

  • @footballhipstertv
    @footballhipstertv 2 роки тому +7

    After how entertaining this season's CL was I'm surprised UEFA went forward with this. They must foresee a really good tournament

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому +3

      It’s got to the stage no where I wish we get the super league. Let the ‘big’ teams F off and be done with it and we can make a better English league set up.
      Be gone with them.

  • @spark556
    @spark556 2 роки тому +8

    I want a European Cup back

  • @WHATDOUEVENPUTHERE
    @WHATDOUEVENPUTHERE 2 роки тому +5

    The intro song sings "these are your champions" yet 5th place are qualifying, didn't realize 5 was a trophy

    • @15harry1561
      @15harry1561 2 роки тому

      4th is like a trophy at the moment.

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому +2

      @@15harry1561 sad isn’t it :( English football died

    • @15harry1561
      @15harry1561 2 роки тому

      @@IWTBF 💯

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 2 роки тому

      @@IWTBF Nice joke

  • @cowantom
    @cowantom 2 роки тому +1

    the extra places are self fulfilling. If you already get 4/5 places then there is a greater likelihood of you getting further into the tournament and so cumulatively have a greater chance of getting another place. League Champions in many leagues have single places, qualifying rounds etc., so limit their chances to get far enough - and of course on their own - to get an extra place for their country

  • @krisness8118
    @krisness8118 2 роки тому +2

    😂🤣 his voice when he mentioned Scottish football

  • @hssIceland
    @hssIceland 2 роки тому +6

    The team that finishes 5th in the Prem gets in to the Champions league, If that team then finishes 24th (Yes that's TWENTY FOURTH!!) it can still become the "Champion" of Europe. This is a joke..

  • @ynwajft9612
    @ynwajft9612 2 роки тому +3

    We are witnessing the slow death of the beautiful game as we know it

  • @TheWorldsGoneMad2022
    @TheWorldsGoneMad2022 2 роки тому +6

    Super league through back door

  • @arsenal1360
    @arsenal1360 2 роки тому +3

    Honestly Jordan has Trevor on strings and it is so funny 🤣🤣

  • @pkanereallyrandom
    @pkanereallyrandom 2 роки тому +5

    Can't complain, was inevitable when the champions league no longer had champions in it.

  • @EasyNow90
    @EasyNow90 2 роки тому +2

    In my opinion once a team is booted out of the champions league that should be their cup run over and not have a second chance at a trophy.

  • @DrawnInk1
    @DrawnInk1 2 роки тому +2

    The Champions League use to be hard to enter (champions only) and easy to win, 12 teams competing. Now it’s easy to enter and hard to win (36 teams).

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      Champ league was never easy to win

  • @mwambachembeya
    @mwambachembeya 2 роки тому +5

    As a Real Madrid fan I'm glad that regardless of where we finish in the league between now and the end of time we'll always qualify for the Champions League.

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 2 роки тому +10

      Why? Do you also want to be awarded a trophy for winning the league when you finish 19th also?

    • @mikem8211
      @mikem8211 2 роки тому +2

      Tbf fair Real have never came remotely close to not qualifying at least not in my lifetime

    • @benmartin7708
      @benmartin7708 2 роки тому

      @@mikem8211 they would if it was only league winners like it used to be

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 2 роки тому +3

      @@russellward4624 I think it was sarcasm

    • @strykah92
      @strykah92 2 роки тому +1

      @@mikem8211 besides the point, but it almost happened in 2000. In fact, Real Madrid finished 5th in La Liga, but also won the Champions League that season, so UEFA literally bent their own rules and Zaragoza in 4th were denied a CL spot for the following season in favour of Real.
      Now on the off chance it was the other way around (Real finishing 4th but let’s say Mallorca won the CL that season), I’m not entirely convinced UEFA would’ve took the same course of action...

  • @BevisFriend2010
    @BevisFriend2010 2 роки тому +1

    5th place has a 2-Legged play-off with the Scottish runners-up every year for the UCL place.
    Sounds like a fine plan.
    New-Firm :D

  • @nicholaswalker4791
    @nicholaswalker4791 2 роки тому +1

    This is Super League Lite. It's only 2 extra teams this time but soon it'll be 4 & 6. It must be stopped

    • @matthewgeorgeharrison
      @matthewgeorgeharrison 2 роки тому

      I agree with you. You are one of the few people in this comment section with a brain.

  • @sparkymlarky
    @sparkymlarky 2 роки тому +11

    Bottom of your league then you qualify for champions League.🤣🤦‍♂️

    • @grassrootsfootball225
      @grassrootsfootball225 2 роки тому

      Where are you all getting this idea from... They have explicitly stated historical performances will not be criteria for qualification.. braindead UA-cam fans man

  • @trevorlowman4752
    @trevorlowman4752 2 роки тому +8

    It’s a prelude to the ESL. Anyone who can’t see this is a complete muppet🥵🥵🥵

    • @kdburner7356
      @kdburner7356 2 роки тому +1

      yep, just buttering us up and seeing how much backlash they get lol

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      Funny how there is no outcry . Hypocrisy

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      @@kdburner7356 they tested the waters with super league and boom.

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      It’s got to the stage no where I wish we get the super league. Let the ‘big’ teams F off and be done with it and we can make a better English league set up.
      Be gone with them.

  • @serkansekreter4269
    @serkansekreter4269 2 роки тому

    I believe 4 for top leaugues is more. It should be at max 2 clubs. But I can see the financial downfall for that.

  • @Bee-hf3fc
    @Bee-hf3fc 2 роки тому +1

    That'll be great for teams like Villarreal, Benefica and such. Or it should though I'd bet they find a way to give those spots to bigger clubs that underperformed. Actually, isn't that superleague again?

    • @Imalexbayley
      @Imalexbayley 2 роки тому

      All roads lead back to super league

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      It’s got to the stage no where I wish we get the super league. Let the ‘big’ teams F off and be done with it and we can make a better English league set up.
      Be gone with them.

  • @bighands69
    @bighands69 2 роки тому

    There are teams that win their countries league title and do not get into the group stages and have to go through a very unfair early knock out qualifier rounds.
    That means there are teams that can never get the financial resources to get to the next level.

  • @ROCKYBLUEDOGS
    @ROCKYBLUEDOGS 2 роки тому +1

    This is the equivalent of a Super League for the elite clubs of Europe.

  • @Chidi_jc
    @Chidi_jc 2 роки тому

    That's was a long time ago that the winners qualified for Europe

  • @choppaa4204
    @choppaa4204 2 роки тому +1

    Why not give the spot to the team that didnt qualify, with the best Goal difference in the UCL season prior?

  • @Genevasplaytime
    @Genevasplaytime 2 роки тому +1

    If it was just the champions like simon wants it would be real vs city or bayern very year! how fun simon!

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      But it’s the same anyway? Lol. Chelsea v benfica ? Liverpool v Porto

  • @davidcunningham9282
    @davidcunningham9282 2 роки тому +4

    the champion's league has become farcical at this stage

  • @SbongamandlaMaphumulo
    @SbongamandlaMaphumulo 2 роки тому +2

    Wow, you know, maybe I miss Blatter and Platini!!!

  • @marklopez747
    @marklopez747 2 роки тому +1

    This remodeling (Swiss Format) is another step towards the ultimate goal which is to create a European Supra league that outshines domestic leagues. Finito. In other words, Uefa's "friendlier" version of the Super League

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому +1

      It’s got to the stage no where I wish we get the super league. Let the ‘big’ teams F off and be done with it and we can make a better English league set up.
      Be gone with them.

    • @marklopez747
      @marklopez747 2 роки тому

      @@IWTBF Totally agree!

  • @shauntwed4183
    @shauntwed4183 2 роки тому +3

    UEFA want English Infrastructure, English teams & all the money that comes with it

    • @il_solitario55
      @il_solitario55 2 роки тому +1

      Yep. They won't stop until all twenty PL teams are in it with Madrid, Barca, Bayern, PSJihadi and a few other champions who are too broke to compete.

  • @magnusheridersson4338
    @magnusheridersson4338 2 роки тому +3

    I still don't understand why these PL clubs are classified as English. They're not. 5 English clubs won't qualify for the CL whatever format. The majority and all the top English clubs are foreign owned. Foreign played. Foreign coached. Foreign managed. THEY ARE NOT ENGLISH CLUBS! and when they start playing matches abroad even the silly fans will finally have to admit it.

  • @vantheman1238
    @vantheman1238 2 роки тому

    Trevor’s thinking do I have potato waffles tonight or onion rings

  • @undefeated7314
    @undefeated7314 2 роки тому

    Finishing second in scotland is equivalent to finishing second in league 1 or even a playoff spot.

    • @Nightwing01010
      @Nightwing01010 2 роки тому

      Sorry who's in the Europa league final?

  • @redboyjan
    @redboyjan 2 роки тому

    Manager fighting instead of extra time and pens please

  • @larrygerry985
    @larrygerry985 2 роки тому +4

    Welcome to the Europa Superleague, where are the fans protesting the "pyramid "

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      It’s got to the stage no where I wish we get the super league. Let the ‘big’ teams F off and be done with it and we can make a better English league set up.
      Be gone with them.

  • @undersoundproductions1915
    @undersoundproductions1915 2 роки тому +1

    the past excitement of European competition is turning into another FA cup

  • @garybarnes556
    @garybarnes556 2 роки тому +1

    Worst comp ever invented.
    Bring back the old systems.
    European cup,Uefa cup,cup winners cup.
    The game we all fell in love with

    • @jonnyhull7860
      @jonnyhull7860 2 роки тому

      Agree it was perfect back then m8 now its just about money ,and more money its not about football no more

  • @colinodere7222
    @colinodere7222 2 роки тому +8

    This makes the group stages meaningless until the play offs to advance to the knockout stage.
    What a useless format

    • @mediacenterman8583
      @mediacenterman8583 2 роки тому

      Meaningless??? They will bring in millions in profit, advertising and sponsorship. That's why UEFA are doing it

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 роки тому +1

      It has been meaningless since they started inviting non-champions into a "champions'" league. And it also destroyed the huge value and entertainment that existed in the UEFA Cup and Cup Winners Cup and subsequently the FA Cup by proxy. Football is a $$$$ joke now.

    • @colinodere7222
      @colinodere7222 2 роки тому

      @@jhpfdijtuiweruot But I understand why they brought this thing of co-efficient. You saw how a select few were easily winning consecutive champions leagues.
      The current format isn't good aswell but no doubt it is way better than the next one.
      Honestly speaking I will only watch when it gets to the play offs of the group stages and knockout phase after that.
      Everything before that will be pointless to watch.

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 роки тому

      @@colinodere7222 It didn't used to be. Neither did the UEFA Cup or Cup Winners Cup. They had a few flaws but those formats were miles ahead of the dross we are served now. They trashed it all for money. And international football was trashed as a knock on effect. The only country that has benefited has been Wales, who have picked up large pools of talent from the money and development put into England

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      @@mediacenterman8583 how ?? What’s new ?

  • @user-ls1lu7gu4u
    @user-ls1lu7gu4u 2 роки тому +3

    I think it should be higher now, the competition has evolved, especially with Newcastle now. There’s easily gonna be 6 top teams battling

  • @007feck
    @007feck 2 роки тому

    It’s not a competition of “best teams in country”, it’s now “best teams in Europe”… but I think it’s better overall when surprise teams go in & out. Stops big teams getting complacent and “voting” themselves back in - whereas it should remain based on how the 11 players in the pitch perform - not how the board rooms perform…

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      It’s got to the stage no where I wish we get the super league. Let the ‘big’ teams F off and be done with it and we can make a better English league set up.
      Be gone with them.

  • @jaydee6440
    @jaydee6440 2 роки тому +18

    Why don't they have......
    Champions league (for champions)
    Runners up league (for the runners up)
    Third placed league (for the teams finishing in third)
    Whilst we're at it why not have a mid table league & a relegation league, just so the governing bodies, the teams, the sponsors & the media can rinse as much money out of the game as possible

    • @fivehundrediq5212
      @fivehundrediq5212 2 роки тому

      No because there’s no punishment for losing

    • @eitanwoloski5822
      @eitanwoloski5822 2 роки тому

      Super league!!

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 роки тому

      That's pretty much what we had with the Champions League / UEFA Cup / Cup Winners Cup.
      They trashed it all for £££

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      Hahah exactly. Why don’t we have a the best relegates European teams cup? yep. That why it’s a mockery this. And what is the purpose conference ? To see who the best 6/7th teams in Europe are??

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      It’s got to the stage no where I wish we get the super league. Let the ‘big’ teams F off and be done with it and we can make a better English league set up.
      Be gone with them.

  • @Vincent.Wilson
    @Vincent.Wilson 2 роки тому

    Should just do a 64 team comp. 8 groups of 8, with at least one champion from each nation, and more spaces designated to the leagues with the strongest coefficients. Winner of each group automatically into the last 16, 2nd place into the 2nd play-offs and 3rd/4th into initial play-offs. Then you have more games between the big clubs with genuine rewards for finishing as high as possible (meaning less competitive games and tiring season), plenty of knock-out stage football, and also allow atleast 1 champion of every nation in Europe a fair pop at the main European stage. A proper Champions League.

    • @newyorkrovers
      @newyorkrovers 2 роки тому

      So shall we extend the season then ? How are all these games going to take place along with your domestic league fixtures ? We already have domestic teams setting their stalls out to just qualify as also rans of their domestic league ! Livarpool won this back in 2019 having finished 25pts adrift of man city in their own domestic league to qualify ! How can you now ever be deemed the best in Europe in a comp that now rewards failier ? Put it back to the original European cup and if you have to extend it at least allow more domestic champions rather than stupid qualifying games and at least the credibility of a European title win will be genuine !

    • @newyorkrovers
      @newyorkrovers 2 роки тому

      @@Vincent.Wilson erm finishing runners up down to now 5th along with winning the Europa league or defending it as chumps or champs... plus the wildcard sometimes used when teams are champs ect means there are near on 8 chances of qualification if you include domestic champions aswell ! Yep a nr seven chances outside winning your own league ! Nah it suits teams like livarpool who by enlarge don't win league titles in the modern game and suit this format ? Let's not beat about the bush it's a money comp and has no credibility ! You ever heard of the Lisbon lions n teams like notts forest ??? Proper European champions who faced the best n beat the best ! All that has been taken away ... the fairytale win against the odds ! Celtic the first ever British team to win it and get to another final being told you are now a minnow and have to go through further qualifying stages to accommodate the likes of runners up n also rans of the big leagues like livarpool ect ! just shows it's nothing to do with greatness just money in my veiw

    • @newyorkrovers
      @newyorkrovers 2 роки тому

      Ps the livarpool v spurs final was the best example of that ! Posting something like 7 losses between themselves to contest the worst ever so called champions of europe final says it all 👋👋👋

    • @newyorkrovers
      @newyorkrovers 2 роки тому +1

      @@Vincent.Wilson ah yes Sean ... Got mixed up in all initial comments lol....just the credibility of comps like this in the modern game are diluted for nothing other than money

  • @donner101
    @donner101 2 роки тому

    Scotland only has a ten team top flight so that has to be factored in also.

    • @RoobrtLiwanduski
      @RoobrtLiwanduski 2 роки тому

      Thats not the point tho.. the point is it should only be league winners that auto qualifiy

    • @donner101
      @donner101 2 роки тому

      @@RoobrtLiwanduski I dont disagree with that in terms of the competition being called the champions league but when you only have a ten team league like Scotland if the top two qualify its the same ratio as a twenty team league with the top four qualifying. Jim seems to think that Scotland should have as many teams as England in the competition and talks some nonsense. He also never grasps the fact that the Scottish Prem is weaker than the English Prem and wont shut up about Celtic and Rangers being "massive" without any real context.

    • @RoobrtLiwanduski
      @RoobrtLiwanduski 2 роки тому

      @@donner101 thats what play offs are for. Instead of giving epl 4 or 5 auto spots, give 1st auto entry and 2nd 3rd, 4th, 5th go into the qualifiers, then with scotland have 1 auto entry and 2nd goes into qualifiers, so much better ways to do it but its all about the 🤑

  • @arsmaster
    @arsmaster 2 роки тому +3

    Why cry about fairness? It’s not fair that teams have different financial backing. The rich get richer the way it’s set up now. Why is that fair ?

    • @mikem8211
      @mikem8211 2 роки тому

      Bruh ain't nothing fair about football basically owner roulette 🤣

  • @robzombie5928
    @robzombie5928 2 роки тому

    More games means more money thats all they care about. That and keeping the same Big teams onside so Uefa can take its cut of the money trough.

  • @rohithraman6488
    @rohithraman6488 2 роки тому +2

    Just keep the current format, it's great

    • @fitnessbalance7924
      @fitnessbalance7924 2 роки тому

      i agree, but prob won't be much different really. Few extra large clubs at the start.

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 роки тому

      It was much better when only the Champions were in it and the runners up had their battles in the UEFA Cup. Consistently having two teams from the same country in the final is a joke. Especially when the runner up from the league beats the champions

  • @JamesBermingham
    @JamesBermingham 2 роки тому +2

    The name of the competition should be changed to the European Premier Cup or some sort of alternative.
    Champions league should have always just had Champions in it.

  • @darkside3803
    @darkside3803 2 роки тому

    Let’s not forget Barca/ RM and Juv are still pushing for a ESL and UEFA said they would ban clubs who went against their rules and yet these clubs will be allowed into the CL and let’s not forget these 3 clubs are in debt into the 100s of millions but finishing 3/4 and now 5th in leagues soon will allow u into the CL.

  • @laitmagnani1525
    @laitmagnani1525 2 роки тому +1

    So the European Super League becomes Uefa Super League

  • @reeceb4973
    @reeceb4973 2 роки тому

    Its not about 'fairness' Jim, its about quality.

  • @bryanfarnet2037
    @bryanfarnet2037 2 роки тому

    ‘Kin love the Benelux leagues

  • @PapaTube-ep1nk
    @PapaTube-ep1nk 2 роки тому

    Thats not fair pondering to large clubs

  • @jay83
    @jay83 2 роки тому

    That's why I was saying there was no point protesting against the super league.. uefa was just upset that they almost done it 1st, there new model was exactly the same practically

    • @grahamkavanagh1245
      @grahamkavanagh1245 2 роки тому +1

      Jay83 game is a laughing stock in it.

    • @jay83
      @jay83 2 роки тому

      @@grahamkavanagh1245 completely

  • @joebarnes100
    @joebarnes100 2 роки тому +5

    5:54 it's an uncomfortable conversation for sinclair from this moment.

  • @zakoid1
    @zakoid1 2 роки тому +6

    So if say, Brighton, come 5th they'll not meet the criteria to get the CL place... But if Leicester//Man Utd/whoever come 5th they'll probably get it because they've been in Europe.... F'in mental.

    • @grassrootsfootball225
      @grassrootsfootball225 2 роки тому +1

      No Brighton will get it, the league rewarded not the clubs and the fa will dictate that 5th place gets it

  • @scottyrobolfc
    @scottyrobolfc 2 роки тому

    Little close there saying sniggering haha

  • @djelalniyazi4090
    @djelalniyazi4090 2 роки тому

    yeah but you dont what same teams in champs league regardless even if they done crapp.

  • @pauldrummond755
    @pauldrummond755 2 роки тому

    How can a team coming 5th in any league get a chance at the champions league? Might as well change it to the participation league at that rate.

  • @firestarter1888
    @firestarter1888 2 роки тому

    jordans back on the doubles - vinegar that is

  • @joeallen781
    @joeallen781 2 роки тому +1

    8 games in the groups??? What they doing adding a 5th team to groups?

    • @puckinhell622
      @puckinhell622 2 роки тому

      Money. It’s about financial growth……UEFA and FIFA don’t have enough bribe money, with inflation the way it is!

  • @FisayoRun
    @FisayoRun 2 роки тому

    From 2024 Best 2 performing countries in Europe from the previous season will receive an additional league entry into UCL. Eng & NDL would be the beneficiaries if it started next season. This is much better than their original 10 year historical club co-efficient because it’s somewhat merit based but I still don’t like it 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @stephenboateng7307
    @stephenboateng7307 2 роки тому

    💯 with Simon ….. it’s all about money 💰

  • @Chidi_jc
    @Chidi_jc 2 роки тому

    They should go back top only first that'll be fun

  • @kiezorfc8559
    @kiezorfc8559 2 роки тому

    It should only be top two of every league gets champions league then Europa and conference after that it’s crazy either that or it’s called the champions league so only champions qualify

  • @darrencodling9824
    @darrencodling9824 2 роки тому

    Bring back the old European cup

  • @fernz1361
    @fernz1361 2 роки тому

    This is how uefa cup winners cup was killed off years ago and the same thing is happening

  • @Inty6
    @Inty6 2 роки тому

    Whilst I agree with everything they are saying, using Scotland is a bad example. Celtic and Rangers have always had a free route to the Champions League. They pretend to care about all the teams around Europe that might miss out, but what about all those other Scottish teams that never get a shot? The fact is that all the leagues are broken and when money will always be the dominating fixture, it will never recover. You've only gotta look at the range of teams in European Cup history compared to what we get now.

  • @garyowen4112
    @garyowen4112 2 роки тому +2

    it used to be called the european cup and you had to be champions to get in,now its called the champions league and any amount of losers are let in,got to love uefa

  • @ACDC1378
    @ACDC1378 2 роки тому

    its ESL 2.0 Ceferin makes it happen so the psgs and citys of this world can be relevant in the CL , and others get more money

  • @montanaprime
    @montanaprime 8 місяців тому

    5th in England cannot surely qualify infront of 2nd in Scotland or Ireland. This is not FAIR at all.

  • @ununseptium7961
    @ununseptium7961 2 роки тому

    It's the Not Champions Not League, and should be called the Top 5 Friendlies Cup after these changes.

  • @15harry1561
    @15harry1561 2 роки тому +1

    The super league started as soon as the European cup became the champions league. It’s only a matter of time…..

  • @donner101
    @donner101 2 роки тому

    The Conference League is also part of the design to morph football into a European league set up which will basically mean there is a three tier European system. Domestic football will get left behind. Bit by bit the European Super League will appear. If more of the smaller teams fold there will be no pyramid for them to climb anyway. Its been the European league for a while now they have just been afraid to call it that incase people woke up to where it was going so they stuck with the Champions League name.

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      yep. That why it’s a mockery this. And what is the purpose of europa league and conference ? To see who the best 6/7th teams in Europe are?? .

  • @colmoreilly1323
    @colmoreilly1323 2 роки тому +1

    Why doesn't Jim just tell Trevor to leave the room so he can have a chat with Simon, 4:30 Trevor makes a point about where extra revenue will go and Jim doesn't even acknowledge his point and turns and talks to Simon😂😂

    • @mikedon5205
      @mikedon5205 2 роки тому

      Because sinclair has the intellect of a cabbage 😆

    • @colmoreilly1323
      @colmoreilly1323 2 роки тому

      @@mikedon5205 ha fair point! But Jim could at least pretend he exists😂😂

  • @stuartferguson2403
    @stuartferguson2403 2 роки тому +1

    It's getting more like eurovision

  • @BDJ4mTex
    @BDJ4mTex 2 роки тому

    Simón Jordan is something else I tell ya.

  • @JackG98
    @JackG98 2 роки тому

    5th in England should play 2nd in Scotland in a play off

  • @rorus9530
    @rorus9530 2 роки тому +8

    I think Its boring to have so many clubs from one country represented in the knockout stages. The premier league is too strong financially compared to other leagues.

    • @virupakshawalla5734
      @virupakshawalla5734 2 роки тому

      I think City Liverpool would have been great actually

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      That why it’s a mockery this. And what is the purpose of europa league and conference ? To see who the best 6/7th teams in Europe are??

    • @redboyjan
      @redboyjan 2 роки тому +1

      Only interested in money. More games equals more money

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 2 роки тому

      @@IWTBF Football isn't just about the elite

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      @@rohithraman6488 lol where is the European cup for teams in 8-12th? Why not have a relegation euros? Let’s see who the best relegated team in Europe is

  • @patrickmclaughlin8424
    @patrickmclaughlin8424 2 роки тому

    if you've earned a star and you've qualified for the champions league you should automatically qualify for the group stages... like a green jacket at the masters win it and your always in

  • @furrybear9416
    @furrybear9416 2 роки тому

    I can't believe Scotland doesn't have 2 CL places!

    • @RoobrtLiwanduski
      @RoobrtLiwanduski 2 роки тому

      This is the first time in years that league winners of scotland auto qualified aswell! So you can win scottish league and still have to play qualifiers even though epls top FOUR auto qualify... madness...

  • @mephisto40
    @mephisto40 2 роки тому

    Because the team that finishes 5th in the PL would wipe the floor with the team that finishes second in Scotland, its not hard to understand

    • @albertbryant3551
      @albertbryant3551 2 роки тому

      Don't think so if top 2 Scottish teams ie the 2 glasgow teams had the same monies the plastic English clubs had they would far the ecl same the nearthlands and other European countries not the best league just the richest

    • @Rfccfctml
      @Rfccfctml Рік тому

      Total clown

  • @adambartlett6277
    @adambartlett6277 2 роки тому

    People need to wake up. They're basically trying to now turn the champions league into the European Super League. DO NOT LET THEM

  • @Elzino187
    @Elzino187 2 роки тому

    Why take a spot from the scottish prem and only allow 1 team from scotland?..why not from the turkish league? They have 2 teams in UCL and europa league every year and theyre not even a european country

  • @Cedisdead
    @Cedisdead 2 роки тому

    They should change the name to "5th place league" aswell

  • @chrisiles786
    @chrisiles786 2 роки тому

    More teams from across all the leagues, forget the group games she’s straight knock out from the outset.

  • @Iamneverright
    @Iamneverright 2 роки тому +1

    The way things are going the only teams that wont qualify for Europe will be those that get relegated !!

  • @jonnyhull7860
    @jonnyhull7860 2 роки тому

    Lets be honest is the super really a bad idea now ,football moves on we could then add celtic,rangers in epl

  • @nicholasjames6763
    @nicholasjames6763 2 роки тому

    Sorry top 4 position is what drives the league it's a big part adding one more spot in away just cheapens the league look at this season how much they want top 4. It would just be spurs and arsenal going through with out the battle going on between them to make top 4 which drives the players the crowd and the game

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 2 роки тому

      Yep. Pathetic

  • @kdburner7356
    @kdburner7356 2 роки тому

    surely clubs the size of Celtic and Rangers (the inevitable teams that will finish 1st and 2nd) are better off in the top flight of Europe than 5th place in England… the fans and atmosphere isn’t comparable in the slightest.
    sure they’re not gonna be making the knock out stages consistently but players who come to Ibrox or Park head remember it for the rest of their life, you can’t say the same for a team like Leicester.

    • @pauldrummond755
      @pauldrummond755 2 роки тому

      I get where you're coming from. However, you can't dismiss Rangers making the knockout stages every season given the correct finances. Celtic have q good track record of qualifying through groups as well.

    • @kdburner7356
      @kdburner7356 2 роки тому

      @@pauldrummond755 what?