3 BODY PROBLEM | Netflix Season 1 Honest Review (2024)
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- Опубліковано 22 бер 2024
- 🍿 3 BODY PROBLEM (2024)
🎬 Benioff & Weiss return with a big budget extravaganza, but will they redeem their somewhat tarnished reputation with 3 Body Problem? A large star-studded cast are at the helm here, yet how does this mindboggling story hold up?
👀 Reviewed by Connor Waites
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What did you make of D&D's latest project? Was 3 Body Problem a 3 Body Success? Let me know! - Connor
I think it was a success, it seems like a slow build up, people are coming to it over the week. It's possible that it honestly gets huge. We will see but definitely great from the show perspective alone
Who is D&D?
@@elbandito5411 can't remember their actual names but they're the 2 guys who wrote game of thrones and turned it all into shit😂
@@elbandito5411 Benioff and Weiss, aka Dumb & Dumber
@@finger3306 oh ok. Yes their both first names start with the letter D.
the vr game's intention isnt to find the smartest people. its to find the people who'd be most sympathetic to the aliens and are also reasonably smart.
It never said that and that doesn’t make sense, you just made that up
@@boagski read the books. its explained more there
@@yashen12345 yes but this is a review of the tv show and it is not in there
@@boagski yeahh but does every tiny little thing need to be explained. look at the live adaptation of avatar the last air bender. every little thing got explained in that show and viewers hated that. Good writers encourage their viewers to take a second to think about it
@@yashen12345 this series was poorly directed and terribly written. You should judge it as a stand alone tv show. After 3 episodes it was terrible. If you like it that’s fine, I’m just giving an honest review
First off they didn’t use the VR gaming to identify the smart ones they already knew who is smart they used it to identify who would be sympathetic to the Shanti race. And The universe blinked due to the Santi super computer (Sophons) that can make humans see whatever it wants. And come on man you can’t be upset they didn’t show the Shanti even in the books by the original author they never even described them.
Mahn that's a spoiler
@@franklinekispotta1610 lol not really. They’ll most definitely show it in the series.
@@TheAntagonistx I really hope they don't show the aliens, it's part of what makes 3 body so unique.
@@tednugent9263 yes true. Just leave it to interpretation
He obviously never read the books and didn't watch the show carefully too😅
I think what you miss is that one of the key concept is that the San Ti sees the fundamental scientists as the most important people to humanity. So they prioritize physicists and fundamental research over politicians, military leaders or wealthy businessman
Yep! It's stated that science is the base for development and they don't want their fleet facing a more advanced humanity since we develop a lot faster than they.
hence their biggest threat
The VR headsets are recruitment tools, not reconnaissance tools. The alien cultists ETO are the ones who use them, not the trisolaran San-Ti. The reason the story feels so scattered is because it is simultaneously adapting all 3 books because they are kinda run parallel to each other and overlap in only some parts. The characters have been completely reimagined and with the exception of Dashi who plays Daashi, Will Downing who is pretty much playing Tianming and Saul who is playing Luo Ji, all the other characters are new and created from a mixture or characters in the books, and in some cases 1 character has even been split apart into to different people. Basically most characters are combinations of characters in different forms.Cheng Xin from the books is kept in Jin Cheng, AA is split into Jin Cheng and Auggie, Wang is split into Auggie, Jin and Jack, Raj is Zhang Behai and another character in the book, Wade plays wade and also some of the early characters in the first book. The storylines feel muddled because they are from three different books. I can explain it a bit:
Book 1 The Three Body Problem: The VR storyline, the Ye Wenjie story in China, the Nanofiber weapon story (basically Auggie and Jin's stories)
Book 2 The Dark Forest [lmao the best book]: The Wallfacer project (Saul's story, but v only get the introduction in season 1, he will most likely be the main character in season 2), The military advancement of earth ( Raj's story but v only get the intro to it in season 1), Cryostasis being introduced. (Basically Saul's story)
Book 3 Death's End: The Staircase project (Jin, Auggie and Will's story) and stuff i cannot tell here because its massive spoilers. (Basically Jin and Will's stories)
As you can see all three of these have events that occur at the same time thats why the series has portions of each book with Book 1 being fully finished. In the books the main charavters for each book are different and do not know each other, and Luo Ji (Saul) and Cheng Xin (Jin) on briefly meet a couple of times in book 3.
Thats why this show seems stuffed with ideas, because it actually kinda is. But i still respected it and think this is the best way they could have adapted it for a tv for a western audience.
Great comment
@@christiankanika2039 thanks
i really liked it. didnt expect to like the characters this much. i couldnt get past the midpoint of the chineese adaptation, but here i binged the whole show in 2 evenings.
The tencent adaptation was infinitely superior to this Netflix funded trash. Apparently you would be satisfied with Keeping Up With The Kardashians given your statement. Small minds and low expectations.
Try the 26 episode director's cut if you can find it, it's called Three-Body Anniversay Version. This one has faster pacing and all the fillers were removed.
@@tsukasa1608nice. i will look for it
@@williamhutton2126 I don't understand how people are fine with the horrible Marvel style writing of the Netflix show.
Tencent version annoyed me with its censorship of the cultural revolution stuff but at least the characters act like adults and the show got the dread and mystery right.
@@robrick9361IKR
It is so frickin hard to watch these analyses by people who don’t know the source material. I usually don’t feel this way, but the story is just too big. Just remember…this is a series…what would be the point of giving you all the answers in the first season??
What's so hard about it? How the series adapts the book is important. Showrunners have a tendency to gut the source material and use the name and empty shell to write whatever story they want to tell in its place. Someone watching it with a fresh pair of eyes and judging series rather than someone looking for fan service is a better review.
I watched the series first, then binge-read all the books, so I can understand both perspectives. It makes it easier to explain things without spoiling.
watch it again, lots of the answers are there.
Exactly! Well, it's a little hard for me to judge since I already read the series so the answers stood out to me since I knew what I was looking for...
I feel the same way! I feel that they explain it pretty well, but yea I know what I’m looking for being a huge book fan who reread the trilogy every few years
I never read the books but I did read lots of articles and wiki before I watch so not confusing to me.
No, read the books, they are excellent. Or, better yet, watch the first (and only currently out) season of the Tencent's "Three Body" version: it is an almost 1:1 recreation of the first book, and video is a richer medium + that series respects the viewer more & doesn't dumb down the science and everything. Then, read the books.
Compared to any of the above, this Netflix abomination is terrible. And yet, it is more source-material-correct and a "lesser" abomination compared to the utter mistreatment Isaac Asimov's Foundation book series is getting.
@@cbs1710You have to understand not everyone has the time or wants to watch 30 episodes that drag and waste time with filler scenes just to get to episode 5 of the netflix show. I know about that 30 episodes version and read about it. I prefer 8 episodes
I think they revealed what makes the universe blinks, its the sophons a proton can travel at the speed of light basically. So it either blinded people line in the books or they travel so fast they can make a limited area in the sky looks like its blinking
是质子展开了，展开面积足矣覆盖地球覆盖
至于眨眼，应该是可以实现展开并且调节透明度
小说原著里是，是需要借助一个科学眼镜才能观察到科学无法解释的，宇宙辐射眨眼，两者都很震撼！电视剧版为了给观众视觉展示，虽然稍微有点不太科学的bug，但这个改编做法可以理解
@@weiguangxwoah! A Chinese fan not just absolutely shitting on the series, love to see it.
@@weiguangx I am not sure if the sophons can contract and expand without the ring device in the show
My sentiments exactly. Ep 1 was really good, hooked you in with heady sci-fi premises and an interesting cast of characters. The rest felt a little messy, wonky, poorly paced especially towards the end. It wasn't the profound engrossing show I was hoping and thinking it could be, but its worth a watch and I'd look forward to a 2nd season and hopefully they get their rhythm down by then. I'd be surprised if this became a Netflix breakout hit. It's too sci-fi and not good enough to pull in the masses.
You misunderstood the point of the video game, or maybe it was not clear in the show. The point is not to find out who the smartest are for recruiting; the point was to engage the minds in solving the Trisolaris problem and also to convince people to empathize with them, thus recruiting them
I don't understand why they insisted on including the beginnings of books 2 and 3 in an already brief series. Book 1 was only 5 episodes.
Because you spend most of the first book totally confused about what's going on, it would be hard to make it through 7 episodes if you didn't know what the story was even about. It actually took me a few tries to read the book because I was bored and confused in the first few chapters. It wasn't until a friend insisted I push through that I discovered what an amazing book it truly was.
Book 1's most interesting bits were Red Coast, the VR levels, Judgement Day Quartet, and I guess learning about the Sophons. They did all that quite well in the show even if it was brief. The good stuff is in books 2 and 3; and by putting the intros into this season they were able to offload the slow bits to parts of this season when we're already invested in figuring out what's next. I think it was smart.
I didn't read the books yet but I got spoiled on the eras and I think the series wants to tackle the eras. Considering what will happen next I think the series wrapped up nicely. People who don't know the dark forest concept yet might think that this season revealed too much but since it is just a mild beginning...
Because the book timelines are not consecutive. Books 2 and 3 both start directly after the discovery of the aliens and overlap. It's using the first season to set up the rest with events in a more linear fashion.
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Not sure if you've read the books, but they did a fantastic job in sorting all of that jumping back and forth with all the scientific explanations than the book. The book is a very complicated read, but how they portrayed it on the screen is pretty much step-for-step
He's clearly not read the books.
Watching the the VR clips was like rewatching moments in my dreams or nightmares with how shifty the solar system would move around
They put some of the book 2 stuff into the first season, which is probably why you felt there was too much going on in the first season.
The VR plays into the weakness of the trisolarians: they don't know how humans think. so they dont know if one idea is good or bad unless there are results already. thats why they target geniuses with results. as for others, they had to figure out with that VR game.
That ship scene/episode was next level
You mentioned around the 2:50 mark that there wasn't enough payoff for the initial setup... but this season is ALL setup for the rest of the series. If it's renewed, we're in for something epic.
I loved episode 1. The mysterious event at every particle accelerator in world, a person makes contact with aliens and asks them to come to Earth, scientists mysteriously killing themselves and a woman seeing a timer counting down. Then later on it became a prepare for Independence day scenario lol. They should have focused more on the world in shock from the news of aliens coming to earth and how world leaders and the UN reacts to it.
the lack of lighting in this made me feel really sleep during a binge watch
Where you guys gone??😢
7:43 what Made the universe blink ?
The universe didn't actually blink ....the sophons just tricked the entire planet to see it blink. Just as the sophons would put a countdown in people's retinas.....it was explained in the series
The book is set largely in China and features mostly Chinese characters. Most of the key characters in the show were not in the book.
The video game was designed to identify people sympathetic to the San Ti cause . While the San Ti can observe everything, they can not read minds.
The nuclear blast propulsion system is actually a genuine concept that has been studied over the years , it was selected in the show because it was the only option that would be workable in the time available.
"The nuclear blast propulsion system is actually a genuine concept "
Exactly!
It is explained in the book that when nuclear bombs explode in space they don't work like in atmosphere. There isn't a shockwave blast, just a large burst of radiation. This explains how a nuclear-blast powered radiation sail could work in theory. I think in general all the concepts in 3-body are hard-scifi and plausibly based on current scientific knowledge. There is no magic like e.g. a FTL warp-drive or artificial gravity.
The VR's purpose is to find which persons would be sympathetic to their issue, willing to help them, and are also smart. You obviously are not one of those people as the show literally told you how they were able to make the universe blink. The reason everything can't be answered is the reason it is a multi-season plan show. Why would they tell you everything? All the things you didn't like e.g. the many storylines are actually condensed compared to the book (reading the books requires a lot more focus we are talking about theoretical science here). This was the best way to set up what's to come.
From what i've been told about the books, the sci-fi concepts that are explored are WILD and continue to expand as the story unfolds, this alone made me want to continue and excited for the furture, I'm also gonna assume that the show will be 3 seasons long with each representing each book, so even tho the ending of 1 is farily anticlimactic despite everything that is set up, it is still very much the begining the of the story, and that creates hype for me like no other.
I feel the show is a slight improvement to the books because it added more character development than the books. The show is definitely not rushed because there is a whole lot more that happens later and my only fear is it may get too complicated for most the same way the whole multiverse thing is in the MCU. I've seen the whole season and it's good so far.
I disliked the book and I am not sure if the problem was the book or the translation.. it was that flip halfway through the first book from science fiction with some hard Sci fi to straight up science fantasy. I really don't want to say exactly why I say that because it might be spoilers but if you read the book I suspect you know what I mean... so I wonder if the show sidesteps that. If so then you problem was the translation.
@@TimothyCollins Well most sci-fi books focus on the science and not characters or story which makes most of them dry like you are reading a textbook on physics. Which unless you are a hardcore science nerd then you won't like these books.
@@elbandito5411 Stories that are people focus tend to fail. Look at the new Godzilla movie. It mostly about Godzilla and look well it's doing.
@@Dave_of_Mordor Not really. There are many examples of great character driven movies and shows. The Walking Dead is a good example. The zombies were just the background but it was the characters that made that series a hit. But like I said there are plenty other examples.
@@elbandito5411 the show went down hill due to its focus on the characters instead of the zombies. i know because i saw the show at its height, and i saw the viewers drop every season after it became more focus on humans instead of zombies.
I was hooked for the first 3 episodes I was sooo hooked but then eh idk snooze city for the most part , the Will love story just didn’t fit in imo and I loved the VR helmet scenes soo agree to disagree lol
The entire season is setup for a much larger story. That's all I can say.
I enjoyed the first few epsiodes when everything was so mysterious then about half way through we kind of new what was going on then it was all a bit of a crawl and I found the dying guy and all the focus on him a bit annoying.
Along with other cast members you liked, I thought Zine Tseng as the young Ye Wenjie was outstanding. Episode 5 is was extraordinary; it dropped off a bit after that. I have read the books and this is about as good as I thought it would be. Hopefully there will be more seasons.
Santi cant read minds, thats why they use the VR game to choose which ones who can prove they are worth recruiting
They can absolutely read the minds of the people that wear the VR head mounted display.
@@rensin2 No, San Ti can't read minds. It's central to the story. Their tech can plug a brain, create simulations, etc. But not extract data. But even if they could, they would never have the intelligence to comprehend the complexity of the human mind. It's way above their paygrade lol
@@rensin2 No, they can't. The headsets only intercept sensory input and output. That's just advanced neuroscience. They don't have the capacity to interpret synaptic impulses into concrete thoughts. That's Legilimency.
I like the comparison to Interstellar.
If we were to map this series to Interstellar (assuming they adapt the whole trilogy), then the end of this season is basically equivalent to the point in Interstellar where they launch the rocket from Earth and are about to enter the wormhole in that movie. At this point in the story, it's seemingly all about corn and farming and dustbowls, a mystery wormhole, why NASA is hidden, and there's some compelling character stuff but we haven't gotten into the real meat of anything quite yet. We just have an outline of what to possibly expect.
So far then, this show is a lot more exciting than an Interstellar TV series would have been.
I agree I wish the VR stuff was a bit more drawn out into the season, and had more build up. There was a lot of nuanced stuff cut there from the books (but nothing consequential at the end of the day) and yet they still had to rush. So the VR stuff also saw a lot of the mystery streamlined down. it's really only that there was so much to do afterwards and only so much time available to show it. The show could have easily fallen into a trap where the VR thing went on way too long and the rest of the plots had to suffer, and if the series was more episodes or supposed to be many more seasons, they could have done that. But, ultimately the Three Body VR game is not the point of the series so it was probably best to get it in, do its job, and get out.
How did the headsets get to earth??
They were manufactured on earth, by the alien-loving faction. Probably with the help if the sophons, doing some etching on a atomic level. If thise things can make the sky blink they can also manufacture a mind-reading-manipulating headset.
5:29 I imagine book readers reaction to that quote
Are you going to cover the new series of inside no ?
This was very well done. Yes its that good 👍
Sounds like you'll enjoy the Chinese adaptation more than the Netflix version, it took it's time to explore all the concepts and ideas, Netflix version felt too rushed and tried to cramp too much into an 8 episode series, many things was oversimplified while in the books and the Chinese series they're very well explained.
The aliens needed the VR game to recruit people because they didn’t understand humans. They made the game to give their human agents a way to watch people and figure out who they were and if they would be good recruits because the aliens couldn’t do it themselves.
in the books it's different, the alien didn't made the game, they also don't care about recruiting new people. It was the ETO/Earth's Trisolaris Organization that behind everything. The game was just a normal online game that eveyone can play without invitation, the VR set was also normal VR. The show removed the inner conflict inside the ETO between the redemptionists, who trying to solve the three-body problem so the Trisolaran won't arrive, and the adventists, who hated humanity and wanted the Trisolaran invade us and eliminate all humans.
@@tsukasa1608That makes way more sense. The aliens can't lie to the point that they're confused by the concept of fiction, but they can create a video game that has them disguised as humans and uses historical figures inaccurately? It didn't click for me.
Damn I'm missing unleash the ghouls rn 😅
As a reader of the whole trilogy, I really think they did a more than good job! And btw season 2 will blow your mind. This is just world building just like Dune 1. Have you seen Dune 2? Well expect the same for this series.
One thing to note is that this isn't Benioff and Weiss redeeming themselves. Remember, they did write the first four seasons of Game of Thrones, which were amazing. That's because they actually tried back then, and they worked closely with George RR Martin. But then the Red Wedding happened. By the time that episode aired they had already finished writing Season 4, so the popularity of the Red Wedding didn't affect that season.
The next thing they wrote was Season 5. This is where the quality of the writing dropped like a rock. At that point there still were two more books to adapt. The show getting bad because they ran out of books is a myth. They chose to abandon the plot long before that. By all right, Jon Snow should have been betrayed at the end of Season 6, not 5. Why is this important? Well, there is an event at the end of the second book that they are talking about the exact same way they spoke about the Red Wedding. Basically, they are going to stop trying.
One thing I found rather funny is that in the Chinese version of the book the aliens are called the San Ti, but in the Chinese adaptation they are called the Trisolarans. Instead it's in the western adaptation they are called the San Ti.
Book fans said S4 is where the quality dropped lol
there really was a proposal for space travel using nukes as propulsion.
There is also "Project Starshot", using space "Sail" to achieve 20% speed of light. The target also 4 Light year away & Triple star system, like in the film.
Yes, they threw much of the interpersonal stuff in, because the books are a visceral epic, characters are more or less just story devices. Which is great for nerds, but probably even harder for average viewers. The Series itself is also a hard nut to crack. Book one is a bit more grounded, and down to earth, but the whole series is more of a mega-scale "Foundation Size" cosmic epic on a universal scale. Literally, the main topics are not Earth, but life an the whole universe itself later on. Will be interesting, how they manage to change the tone. Humanity, and even the Trisolaris-Aliens are nothing more like bugs at this point.
PS: Not sure if there will be a reveal, what made the universe blink, since it has been revealed in the later episodes again. But that needed some connecting the dots, and extrapolation of what the technology we saw is capable of.
The actors are cringy and the dialogue is diabolical lmao
Really bad "emotional" acting especially by the model turned actress Auggie...
Definitely. I imagine if the book dialogues are alike... coz brooooo if it is, that must be depressive if you are not retarded. Lazy script or just a whatever book to small minds?
The concept is excellent but the thing came out a mess...
Predictable, lazy, superficial, random... Do the math and "cringey dumb" is the answer. Otherwise they did it in a big hush.
I had loud laughs in certain very serious conversations. I felt like even the actors were like "I can't believe he said that"
DEI tedium
i really liked this show apartlast two episodes, it's good lol
The show is excellent. Can’t wait to see the adaptation for the 2nd and 3rd books. It’s gonna be a wild ride
Vr game is not search for smart people but a way to identify those sympathetic to alien cause and also I see it like this: If humans in game somehow found a way to solve 3 body problem somehow then San-Ti would use that to help them survive on their own world instead of coming to our world.
I could suspend disbelief in a lot of this show's concepts, but the one thing I couldn't stomach was Project Staircase. They're supposed to use their arsenal of nuclear bombs to propel the sail, right? But how did they accurately position those bombs supposedly light-years ahead of the sail? If they could do that already, couldn't they have just used that technology to transport whatever payload they wanted directly to the Sant-ti homeworld? The entire thought experiment just seems preposterous.
They have no issue traveling through space.
The issue is with speed.
They need a way to propel the probe closer to 1% the speed of light.
A standard fuel rocket will not work.
The nuclear barrel was placed there previously using a standard space shuttle.
there really was a proposal for space travel using nukes as propulsion.
Just binged the entire season I liked it , but what kind of bad wig was the "Auggie"female Character wearing?
It was very unflattering to the point of being distracting.
The Trisolarans forgot about the Iron Fleet. The End.
I'm just going to say.... Don't let the VR aspect dissuade you. It was very much streamlined compared to the book. This book BTW won the Hugo Award which is the highest honor on the planet that a scifi author can win. And if you have a fraction of an idea of where this story is going you will be DESPERATE to see how they manage to adapt that. Having said that I will say that its very "academically" directed. Would have preferred someone like Villenue or Alex Garland directing this and just making it look that much more beautiful and artistic. Its a huge story, so it would be damn near impossible to do it justice, without it coming off a bit cacophonous, much like with Dune.
not as good overall as Westworkd for me , but very good overall , the irst season offers a lot of answers quickly , episode 4 is mind bending " Inception Style ' but the final episode is not a real good cliffhanger .... but it's quite good, i too am very doubtful about Dumb and Dumber running this , but in this case the story is finished, 3 books were released . so they have the source material ... but they can fuck it up for sure....
I don’t think you fully understand the show and that’s fine the show was amazing and played out a concept that honestly made you have to decide if this is going to be worth fighting against or just try to get out while we can. They used the science we have to make the show understandable. The concept of the show is phenomenal. You want the answers laid out in front of u and not have to make a decision yourself which is fine but doesn’t make the show any less interesting. It’s a 5 out of 5 for concept and execution the original books are so full of incredible theory’s and what could possibly be done about the invasion that the show will have a good run to tie it in
I loved the show
Jesse Hong is not lead material and that's their biggest mistake. Eiza González was totally MISUSED.
Well... It is definitely the hollywood version of the story
The main problem was the characters. The show wanted us to invest in it's characters emotion after all the mystery had already happened. The show don't even properly show who the characters are instead just tell us that they are brilliant scientists and because of that they are the main character. Show us why they are important, don't tell us.
I think the vr headset thingy was that the san-ti can't read minds....so yess they can see everything & all that but they have to test the mind of people.
Unpopular opinion. I hated Will as a character....Will & Saul were insufferable to me
I think the series is excellent
read the books
Fell apart after about 3 - 4 episodes. The writing and acting becomes so convoluted.
Ok so currently the aliens thinking we are all liars and why didn't they install a joystick to control thing incase of, oh I don't know, maybe something like an emergency? You place the nukes in pre determined plots and MUST assume the aliens know this. You should at least be able to 🎮 it should it be tampered with. Now the Wallwhatever guy ain't got a clue that everything he says, the aliens assume it's the opposite of what he means lol
I liked it quite a bit but it's such a contrivance of a story. Namely that these aliens are sure smart for a species that seems incapable of abstract thought like 'fiction'. They call a 'story' a lie when they themselves say they can't lie but they f'n lie constantly. They thinks books are lies but they have no problem understanding the concept of an immersive simulation video game? THAT'S KIND OF WIERD.
Like it's super ironic that they say they can't coexist with us or trust us when they were the ones literally on ships coming to conquer us. It doesn't seem like that logic actually holds up.
But there's still a lot of great science fiction concepts in play so it gets a big pass for some of those contrivances.
I enjoyed it, too, but share your criticism of pacing; during the last two episodes, it felt strange that new plot points were being introduced so close to the end of the season. Some bits should have been introduced earlier, or saved for the next season.
Will's subplot was the most boring part of the show for me. I was actively rooting for him to finally die already so we could stop following his drama. It's interesting you found it one of the highlights.
Read the books..
I made it through the opening scene in 1960's China and then the show fell off for me. It felt like someone cribbing of off better series and not hitting the mark. The source material is probably fine. The first scene is great. But thecrest nose dives quickly.
The worst problem was how flat all the characters were and HOW BAD most of their lines were.
Why would a high intelligence alien announce a upcoming invasion 4 centuries in advance......give earth a chance to prepare. Also they are other habitual planets , why earth?
You have zero idea of where this is going. Read the books, listen to Quinn’s Ideas analysis, you are definetely UNDERTHINKING it.
Loll that's exactly what I was thinking
Hilarious to see everyone recommending that dude because they’re unable to think for themselves 😂
When you have to force everyone to read the book for watching the tv show you did a piss poor job of the show
@@byrongrimsley500 you don’t get much of the second or third book when reading only the first. If you want answers now, read the books. Otherwise the adaptation is not bad at all in my opinion.
I liked it but it is not perfect. There is some issues with the main characters all being important..because they are the main characters. Saul being recruited as a wallfacer needed more explanation that the cryptic explanation given here. It is like it was cryptic BECAUSE it was so unbelievable and they dont have a great explanation. And humans aiding the aliens after the "reveal" of what they wanted strained belief for me.
But the thing that stood out as great is playing with the ramifications of totally untrained and hurt people communicating with aliens. This story shows why that is a very bad idea. They basically might doom humanity due to hubris and selfishness. They nail this very well. As yes, the game stuff could have been better. I got it was a recruitment game, but the ways it showed how it did it did not ring true for me. Again, after the big reveal, I would not see it conceivably working anymore. The main "bad" person, a woman who kills for the aliens, also has a major fight NOT shown and we are just told it, which felt like a huge cheat.
But these nitpicks aside, it was very good and I recommend it. Acting was superb, the flashbacks really were well made and the plot was thrilling enough to see where it is going.
Tripped over this while 'doodling' on YT. After the absolute shambles they made with GOT, there is no way on this earth that I will suffer the same level of disappointment. Therefore, I won't ever be watching it.
I fast forward the show and only watched parts with Auggie cuz you know she is so damn hot
Yeah, you're overthinking it. The aliens can't figure out who the smartest ones are just by spying on them because they still can't tell what people are thinking. The VR game tells them which people can solve the hardest problems.
The tone feels off for a couple reasons. They removed a number of scenes from the book that served to not just help the reader conceptualize the science but it also went a long ways towards setting the uncertain, dreadful tone that lasts through all three books. Additionally, there is no Oxford Five, most of the main characters don't know each other prior to the story in the books. This screws up another part of the tone of the books where the story feels much more international, more about humanity than the cast of Friends.
I don't think they touch on it very heavily in the show but in the books, the game is also meant to be a form of propaganda to create sympathy for the alien invaders. They more allude to it than outright say it in the show.
For what its worth, the first book that most of the first season covers is largely regarded as more of a prologue to the actual story that takes place in the second and third books. I can understand them trying to rush through it and also kinda gotta hold out for the second season to truly tell if they do it justice.
The books are incredible but the characters are by far its weakest element. They did a great job at fleshing out characters to care about within the context of the story 😊
to me the book as better
Book is best by far.
you're honest, but the base knowledge isnt there for you. you have to rewatch it, let it sink in. shows like this doesn't want you to rush into conclusion so you could make a video about it with half-full knowledge about it.
it's a very complex book series/show, so rewatch it.
Compare to the sauce?! Oh, it compares to the sauce!
Episode 1 was unbearably turgid and did not feature a single character that as a viewer, I could care about,. The actress playing 'Aggie' is horribly mis-cast and out of her depth, spending more energy with the perma-pout than on actually emoting. I genuinely could not care less and won't be watching further.
Its DEI tedious drivel
The VR is a complete boring game.... An alien species devolping mind shattering tech on a unsustainsble chaotic planet is like undermining its own premisse. The tv show is much more enjoyable than the book, but suffers greatly from sticking to close to the dumber than dumb source material. 😅
Could not finish first ep , terrible so boring
Its setting pace for book 2 n 3. Will, saul, jin will all play an important role in book 2 n 3. R our brains now dumb enough n cant do some simple analysis? Do u need all answers provided immediately once questions r given out? Come on...
Is woke god damnit, had hopes for this one. Chinese version is better in my opinion. To much LA writer filth and "The message". Girlbosses all the way all guys are simply stupid, actors did a fine job in my opinion but the writing is just garbage. Knowing the novels are hard to adapt, show is ok for a few episodes but then falls off drasticly
Reeks of wokeness.
Absolutely garbage review, honestly.
I tried the first episode, am unfamiliar with the book but know the premise and had no idea that D&D were behind it.
My response was: Mostly meh.
Seriously Netflix Removed All The Science Dumbing It Down / I Mean The Chinese Version Is 30 Episodes And It Explains Much Better
This show sucked. Even for Netflix.
First, I have to say that I think that the Review was as disjointed as the show...
The show is not bad, but does suffer from being unfocused. The narrative seems to want to be direct, to the point and complex (like a scientist would be), but then we get some character moments that don't seem to serve any purpose besides trying to gain or keep, less intelligent/cultured viewers.
Honestly, I ask: What was the purpose of the history that the navy guy's father told during their dinner with his girlfriend... Several minutes wasted there without, it seemed to me, no benefit.
Also, can someone explain to me how the VR headset bit makes any sense? So, SCIENTISTS get their hands on a out of this world piece of technology and the first, and ONLY thing that they do, is use it?? No tests, no attempt to inform others or trying to get an expert opinion... So f*** stupid.
Dame you are.not gonna like the books if that's your attitude to the vr game and stairway project.
@@pixelcount350I'm not exactly sure if you understood my point... I have no issue with both things that you pointed out. I have an issue with the behavior of the characters in the situation. I not believable to me.
Regarding the books, from what I heard, they are much more to the point, focusing in the science/fiction part of the story. That is, in my opinion, the strongest side of the plot in the adaptation. If that is true, then, most likely, I would prefer the books to the show. In fact, I heard that the Chinese is closer to the core plot of the books. I plan to watch that one next.
About the meeting parents bit. I don't want to spoil the plot as I see you have not read the book yet. But I think it's intended for building the character of Raj who according to my guess is the equivelant of a very pivotal character in the book called Zhang Bei Hai. This character is born to a general in China, like in the Netflix show. When he first appears, he come across as a ruthless war fanatic soldier type. And then, I will stop here, people who read the book would know what I am talking about. It's one of the biggest surprise in the book.
It’s crap 💩
Feels like this is what most of TV and film seem to be these days; interesting ideas and intriguing setups with no payoffs and fumbled storytelling. Maybe artists need to invest in more simple, straightforward stories that they can just let breathe instead of trying to overwhelm people with intellectual stuff.
The things you mention don’t follow. Not having well-written ribbons to tie at the end of a story has nothing to do with the story being “too intellectual”. Hardly any TV series or movie in the West is intellectual in the slightest. And I think it’d be disappointing if many people associate anything remotely brain-stimulating with “bad”. Entertainment is important, but it shouldn’t be an either-or: we shouldn’t promote complete anti-intellectualism.
Love love love how the writers tricked you. Watch it again, and eat your words. You don’t know what you’re talking about, this is an L.
The Chinese version on Prime(?) was better and closer to the book. Why relocated evevrything to the West?
because its a western adaptation, for western audiences
the chinese version is insanely boring
Next time China adapts something western, tell me if they keep it as white/black folks and in the west. (Will not happen)
Also the Chinese version minimizes the Cultural Revolution moments - which robs the inciting incident with the San-Ti and Dr Ye of its rationale.
Its a high octave, high iq novel not suitable for simple minded people
It is bad - boringly shot. Bad acting. And the brilliant scientists are more stupid than me
When did the showrunner become a bigger thing than the show they make or the stars in it?
not going to watch it. Not good enough.