Really hope they give Akechi more development in P5R and maybe even a different ending. Let us see what he had to go through with Shido's mental abuse and the death of his mother. The way he died sucked and was plain nonsensical. Gets killed by a guy with a gun and a few weak shadows when the entire gang can simply outnumber the enemies. Maybe even let him be a permanent party member until the end and give him an ultimate persona.
@@EvelynL.1112 I dont love him, but I sure as hell find him more likeable and sympathetic compared to Adachi. Adachi was being a dick for fun, while Akechi became warped for a reason. The fact that Akechi was playable only temporarily makes me miss him even more.
@@inplane9970 The phantom theives had beat him twice before his confrontation with Shido's cognition of him and those shadows. He lost twice using two different personas I assume he was exhausted after that battle. He also used Loki's ability on himself.
@@yungbreezy36 Nope. They're all aware, and the formulation of the plan was a gradual thing. Remember Futaba bugging his phone outside of the courthouse? And them planning it days in advance? So if he's there as Crow, they all know.
Tbh at 2:50 & 3:04 “Keep up the usual..huh..” I feel like that’s Akira kinda guiding Akechi in the right direction, saying that he doesn’t need to be perfect. He’s doing good the way he is now.
Actually, Akechi acts completely different from he does in P5 in this game. He's actually quite cooperative and human. I think it's because Yaldabaoth was behind him and everyone is out of his region so he has no control of this place. (Something else is however.) Therefore, anyone affected by him (Thieves, The Twins and Akechi) would be different from inside Yaldy's region since they aren't bound to him for now. In short, I think Akechi didn't show his darker sides and neither does Joker or the twins here because those were all given by Yaldabaoth, if they get out of his region they don't act like they do in P5. (His Region (Mementos) is actually the entire world, not just Tokyo, he just uses Tokyo as a vessel.)
Yaldabaoth doesn't really affect Akechi in the base game though The only time he is brought up in regards in Akechi is when Lavenza mentions that Yaldaboath gave him and Joker their persona abilities. With Akechi being awakened one year before Joker. He doesn't seem to really affect the world or the people until late December in game and when he merges the world with Mementos. Affecting them through their shadow selves in Mementos. Also, the fact that Akechi has a persona in the first place means that he has accepted who he is and merged with his shadow (becoming Loki). So Akechi is fully aware of what he is doing and has no delusions about himself or what he is doing.
@@rebound1266 He does directly affect a few people aka the main players. Joker, Akechi and the twins beforehand. He needs to, otherwise he cannot game them while making it look legit. Remember how Joker thought that he's just going onto a typical probation at the start of the game until "Igor" told him something as if he won a raffle. Actors are fully aware of what they are doing. If you hire an actor, they have no delusions about their actions and are exactly doing as told. Akechi, Joker or The Twins fully know what they are doing there. It's just he might not be able to affect them out of anywhere where he is the governor.
He never directing influences their decision making though. Sure he gives them certain tools to use in both the real world and the metaverse. (the app and jokers third eye). But he never gives it to them and says things like "hey you should do X with this" The only "advice" he gives is to forge bonds with people and occasionally go "Hmm, I wonder what you will do next"
@@rebound1266 Actually when he's doing this he is scripting things, and the endgame is that he makes sure none of his two pawns succeed and all people will just worship him. He doesn't even need to tell people to do things, he just make things occur automatically until Joker attacks Mementos Depths which he didn't predict.
Has an affinity for one food? Not even close. Pretty boy? Bit of a stretch Has a fanbase? I guess... A detective? Maybe Tasked to find a killer with unknown methods? Warmer Is the killer himself? That's fucking it. This pancake loving SOB is Kira
@@victorli2051 Well, yeah, he's no traitor because he was never your teammate in the first place. But he and the player playing through Joker's TOTALLY believable story while doped up on drugs doesn't know that until you piece it together or when it's finally revealed.
Actually he betrays everyone. He's just like you where Yaldabaoth hires him for his solitaire game. It's only he causes social discord, you reform hearts of corrupt people. Also i think he is human here because the way Joker, Akechi, The Twins or anyone affected by Yaldabaoth act are not applicable out of his region (The P5 reality). He just made them act like that for the sake of an entertaining game. This means that as long as anyone under Yaldabaoth's influence gets out of the reality where he is in, they lose the persona they are in his world. But as soon as they return, they are instantly affected again. This is why Akechi didn't want to return since his memories will be wiped out alongside he will take the game persona again. Joker is as much as a rebel and Akechi is as much as a traitor as how a stack of poker cards are.
Looks like Akechi is having some character development. I like it.
Really hope they give Akechi more development in P5R and maybe even a different ending. Let us see what he had to go through with Shido's mental abuse and the death of his mother. The way he died sucked and was plain nonsensical. Gets killed by a guy with a gun and a few weak shadows when the entire gang can simply outnumber the enemies.
Maybe even let him be a permanent party member until the end and give him an ultimate persona.
I agree. I used to hate him but now I LOVE HIM!
@@EvelynL.1112 I dont love him, but I sure as hell find him more likeable and sympathetic compared to Adachi. Adachi was being a dick for fun, while Akechi became warped for a reason. The fact that Akechi was playable only temporarily makes me miss him even more.
@@inplane9970 The phantom theives had beat him twice before his confrontation with Shido's cognition of him and those shadows. He lost twice using two different personas I assume he was exhausted after that battle. He also used Loki's ability on himself.
😳
well
“And, while we’re here, even I could-“
I wonder what he wanted to do...
ｅａｔ ｐａｎｃａｋｅｓ
Get out of here P A N C A K E boy, this is a W A F F L E house
shhh thats left for the fangirls
M U R D E R
"...talking your fucking pants off, joker..."
Sorry, as a fan girl of joker×akechi, I had to do it.
I still love Akechi tho tbh
Sketchy Akechi.
He’s so clever, he hasn’t realized that his “companions” have been stringing him along since his confession.
This takes place before that even happens. They don't know shit about him yet.
yungbreezy36 wait so when does this take place?
@@linkfan6555 It takes place right after he joins. The only ones who knows he's sketchy at this point is Joker and Morgana due to the pancake slip up.
@@yungbreezy36 Nope. They're all aware, and the formulation of the plan was a gradual thing. Remember Futaba bugging his phone outside of the courthouse? And them planning it days in advance? So if he's there as Crow, they all know.
Tbh at 2:50 & 3:04
“Keep up the usual..huh..” I feel like that’s Akira kinda guiding Akechi in the right direction, saying that he doesn’t need to be perfect. He’s doing good the way he is now.
Akechi, you ...
Actually, Akechi acts completely different from he does in P5 in this game. He's actually quite cooperative and human.
I think it's because Yaldabaoth was behind him and everyone is out of his region so he has no control of this place. (Something else is however.) Therefore, anyone affected by him (Thieves, The Twins and Akechi) would be different from inside Yaldy's region since they aren't bound to him for now.
In short, I think Akechi didn't show his darker sides and neither does Joker or the twins here because those were all given by Yaldabaoth, if they get out of his region they don't act like they do in P5.
(His Region (Mementos) is actually the entire world, not just Tokyo, he just uses Tokyo as a vessel.)
Yaldabaoth doesn't really affect Akechi in the base game though
The only time he is brought up in regards in Akechi is when Lavenza mentions that Yaldaboath gave him and Joker their persona abilities. With Akechi being awakened one year before Joker.
He doesn't seem to really affect the world or the people until late December in game and when he merges the world with Mementos. Affecting them through their shadow selves in Mementos.
Also, the fact that Akechi has a persona in the first place means that he has accepted who he is and merged with his shadow (becoming Loki). So Akechi is fully aware of what he is doing and has no delusions about himself or what he is doing.
@@rebound1266 He does directly affect a few people aka the main players. Joker, Akechi and the twins beforehand. He needs to, otherwise he cannot game them while making it look legit.
Remember how Joker thought that he's just going onto a typical probation at the start of the game until "Igor" told him something as if he won a raffle.
Actors are fully aware of what they are doing. If you hire an actor, they have no delusions about their actions and are exactly doing as told. Akechi, Joker or The Twins fully know what they are doing there. It's just he might not be able to affect them out of anywhere where he is the governor.
I think it's more that he's spending more time as friends with them, much like what happened with Ken in Q1
He never directing influences their decision making though.
Sure he gives them certain tools to use in both the real world and the metaverse.
(the app and jokers third eye).
But he never gives it to them and says things like "hey you should do X with this"
The only "advice" he gives is to forge bonds with people and occasionally go "Hmm, I wonder what you will do next"
@@rebound1266 Actually when he's doing this he is scripting things, and the endgame is that he makes sure none of his two pawns succeed and all people will just worship him.
He doesn't even need to tell people to do things, he just make things occur automatically until Joker attacks Mementos Depths which he didn't predict.
Sounds like Light Yagami when he lost his memory.
Give him Ryuji's VA for max experience
Well that wouldn't far off since Akechi is pretty kira-like.
Has an affinity for one food? Not even close.
Pretty boy? Bit of a stretch
Has a fanbase? I guess...
A detective? Maybe
Tasked to find a killer with unknown methods? Warmer
Is the killer himself? That's fucking it.
This pancake loving SOB is Kira
Same expressions too, hair color, hair style.
Yeeeeaahh...
1:59 plot material (and not for PQ2 either)
Akechi open up please
What a shame he betrays the Phantom Thieves
Agreed, Akechi could have become one of them. Shame that he find Shido first.
Although to be fair, he is more like an mole than a traitor.
@@victorli2051 Well, yeah, he's no traitor because he was never your teammate in the first place. But he and the player playing through Joker's TOTALLY believable story while doped up on drugs doesn't know that until you piece it together or when it's finally revealed.
It’s probably why he seemed troubled when it’s time to go back, cause he’s gonna forget the friends he made
@darklordster
Probably the same thing. He doesn't seem to appear in New Year celebration... so he's probably so fucking dead.
Actually he betrays everyone. He's just like you where Yaldabaoth hires him for his solitaire game. It's only he causes social discord, you reform hearts of corrupt people.
Also i think he is human here because the way Joker, Akechi, The Twins or anyone affected by Yaldabaoth act are not applicable out of his region (The P5 reality). He just made them act like that for the sake of an entertaining game.
This means that as long as anyone under Yaldabaoth's influence gets out of the reality where he is in, they lose the persona they are in his world. But as soon as they return, they are instantly affected again. This is why Akechi didn't want to return since his memories will be wiped out alongside he will take the game persona again.
Joker is as much as a rebel and Akechi is as much as a traitor as how a stack of poker cards are.
Clever Akechi