ULTRAVOX: LAMENT - Album Review at 40
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- The Electronic Cafe mini series celebrating classic albums turning 40 years old this year (1984-2024). Classic Album 40 years On #80ssynth #synthpop (Midge Ure, Visage) we reappraise the CLASSIC 1980's ALBUM :
Ultravox - Lament (released April 1984)
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Warren Cann - drums, electronic percussion, backing vocals
Chris Cross - bass, synthesizer, backing vocals
Billy Currie - keyboards, violin
Midge Ure - guitar, lead vocals
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Another landmark album, the brilliant Ultravox / Lament turns 40 this year - tell us what you think ?
I'm not sure about this album. Aside from the singles, only "Heart of The Country" really stands out to me. A lot more synthetic percussion as well, which I Don't see the need for when you have a drummer as good as Warren Cann.
They choose to do something different to the previous albums so I respect that and still some great stuff on there.
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It's my favourite Ultravox album. It's such an awesome complete album experience with my my favourite track, When the Time comes I'll cry ❤. Nice choice guys, love it ❤
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I was in my last year of high school when this album came out , and still remember being blown away seeing them performing on TV , on a showcase programme called the Oxford Road Show. Man of two worlds....such a great track !! Good times. 😍
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Great album. I love “White China” so much and really wish they had released it as a single.
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I feel this album tends to get overlooked but it is still a strong Ultravox album. Heading in a different direction from their earlier work but still showing what a unique sound they had.
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Brilliant album
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Super 👌 alum❤
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❤❤❤❤❤ I adored this album
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Classic Ultravox. My favorite track is A Friend I Call Desire. An underrated and largely forgotten song.
Mine too. Great song. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW
💯 Unfortunately they never played it live. Only Midge once after I bothered him for years to put it on his setlist.
I totally enjoyed Ultravox in the Midge Ure years. The piano and violin mixed with the synthesizers is definitely their signature sound.
White China plus the Special Mix and Lament are my fave on this album, but honestly every song is Gold
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I had the previous albums and bought Lament when it was released. It is the Ultravox album I have listened to the most. My favourite track are "White China" and "A Friend I Call Desire", but the entire album is fantastic!
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RIP Chris. There's some great bass on this album.
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Great album. I wasn't keen on Dancing With Tears in My Eyes, even though it had a good cold war/end of the world theme to it, because Midge's voice seemed to just match the melody rather than standing out against it as in other songs. Every other track I absolutely love. I consider this their "final" album, personally, because Warren's lack of involvement on U-Vox made it at best "Ultravox-lite" (other views are, of course, available!). White China, in particular, I loved, and felt could have been a single. Wonderful, unique music. Ultravox sounded like no other band. :-)
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There are no fillers on Lament. Their sound evolved along side the technology, which is evident on this underrated album. 8/10
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Yep, another fantastic album from 1984.
a great year for music
100% it was. MW
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Superb album of the 80s. I picked up a signed copy from a local 2nd hand record shop about 5 years ago with tour programme and ticket stubs. Dancing and Lament are awesome but White China is my fave on this album! Cheers and rip Chris. PS Loved the Ultravox clear vinyl records too.
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This album as others from Ultravox is fantastic :)
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100% agree sir, thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe -Andy
loved White China off that one, should have been a single, Midge Ure is a great guitar player which often gets over looked
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I have a good collection of Ultravox on Vinyl in 12-inch versions. Naturally the Albums.
I tend to use Spotify these days, every day Ultravox is high of my Favorites.
So after all these years, Still listening to them.
I saw them back in 81 what a gig.
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Loved Vienna.
Loved Rage in Eden.
Loved Quartet.
For me Lament seemed to be the beginning of the end. Didn't warm to it at all. Even after seeing them live for this tour.
BUT in retrospect, it has grown on me, especially White China.
Given the quality of Vienna, Rage and Quartet it's easy to dismiss Lament slightly, but revisiting myself a few years ago dispelled that for me anyway. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW
Another magnificent album from 84 - those of us coming of age then were truly spoiled, were we not? Favourite track from this was Man of Two Worlds, which, looking back, might well have sparked a later interest in folk (Capercaillie, etc): "Taking shelter by the standing stones, miles from all that moves...." - not to mention Skye and prehistory. Ultravox got a lot of stick for supposedly being 'pretentious'. All the better for it, because in my opinion no band has better merged heavy rock, electronics and classical instrumentation.
Indeed we were spoilt. 100%. Thanks for sharing and for watching Electronic Cafe. MW
Classic ! I hear these songs and albums and it takes me straight back to Camden Palace and the 80s. what a time…!!!
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Vienna comes in second place in my favourites but I just love Lament, superb track
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Another top video lads, above all its great to be amongst other aficionados of electronic music. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Great episode lads
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Still great! I remember getting the special remixes of Dancing with tears in my eyes from an import company called Greyhound Records in Hammersmith awesome!!
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Great, great album from start to finish! Granted I'm a huge fan but here speaking honest to goodness truth😊 To me its second only to "Vienna" in their discography. I feel it was a successful and accomplished attempt to expand and develop their style with a different kind of European influence which they could've pursued for another album or two (with the stable line-up, mind). Overall truly a highlight of the year when so many of their peers slacked off and holding their own against new competition admirably.
Several additional points. First, the album needs a bit of a breather so I usually add "Easterly" to the line-up, right in the middle - it's a cool atmospheric instrumental, pity the band drifted off them by 1984 as they were outstanding in this area. I also sometimes add "Dream on" from "U-vox" as the last one, but that's just my little quirk 😀Secondly, they started to rely on choruses a bit too heavy. More in the way of synth/violin solos from Billy would've been most welcome (but he seems to have been mostly absent-minded during the recording so it was up to Midge to take the lead).
Thirdly, they had some remarkably bad judgement regarding singles. "One small day" is alright but why wouldn't they have released "White China" instead as a lead-off? And if they wanted "OSD" so bad (if anything it's a great head-scratcher of a lead-off, mightily intriguing in a "what are they up to now?" way) then why not "White China" as a third one (as "DWTIME" was justly seen as THE single by all and sundry and there's no way it wouldn't've been released)? "Lament" as a song I love but it's hardly a single, right? Not in the long hot summer of 1984 anyway! Still remember an incongruous sight of them manfully miming it in broad daylight at Alton Towers, trying to maintain their moody looks😆 While "WC" would've certainly shot into Top 10, and not only in the UK I'm sure as this kind of sample-heavy synth-dance stuff was all the rage. The record company could've been shipping platinum by the end of the year! And well, if they really wanted "Lament" then why not "WC" as a fourth one? Why "Heart of the country" of all songs?! It's a tremendous one, among their best achievements ever, but a single? In all its 5+ minutes glory? Really?! Alright, it was only for GAS (and France, apparently), but "WC" would've been a shoe-in by that point surely?
All their choices bar one in singles' department sound illogical and a certain way to commercial suicide for another band. Yet our heroes closed the year at an all-time high with a million-selling compilation! What a ride it must've been! Sadly not to last but well, you can't have it all.
Lastly, thank you very much, guys, for highlighting this fine and dandy album, it's most generous and welcome of you! More Ultravox!😉
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Great vid guys, Went on the Set Movements tour covering this album and to be fair this was a good attempt with White China and A Friend Called Desire being my favourites. The band were almost at breaking point during this album with Midge looking to his solo work and Warren becoming less and less involved with his drumming, they were struggling for ideas on this album and very nearly did not release DWTIME as a single.
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I remember having to learn the word. "lament" to understand the song!
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Lament contains what I feel was Warren Cann's second-strongest rhythm for Ultravox, after the mighty Vienna rhythm, of course! :-)
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I got it in my high school days, and dubbing for listening by SONY Walkman.
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A great record, pity they didn't leave it there, as the follow-up was dire. Overall a great discography, just one turkey among the 9 discs.
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thanks for your comments and also thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe -Andy
Yes, another great album. Bought it twice on LP and Cassette £3.99 in WHSmith.. never bought it on CD for some strange reason??..
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Lament was Ultravox trying to emulate U2 and Simple Minds, too much 'stadium rock', gaelic influences and not keen on the female backing vocals. After hearing the album I yearned for more of Billy's arp. Listening back after 40 years, it stands up well against its contemporaries but it marked the end of that Ultravox sound we all loved.
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Lament is an excellent album, but it also marks the beginning of the end of the "Ultravox Sound" of the previous 3 albums. One Small Day is a fine song, but it sounds more like U2 or Big Country than an Ultravox song.
The firing of Warren Cann and the release of the Pink Thing, aka "U-VOX" signaled the end of the early 80's dark, romantic, and orchestral music and marked the dominance of Midge Ure's control on the creative aspects of the band, and that quickly led to the eventual breakup.
Any chance you guys can do an analysis of the song "Ukraine", which was supposedly written by Billy Currie, Chris Cross, and Warren Cann before Midge arrived in the studio to begin writing U-VOX?
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It wasn't so much written as assembled by Billy in 1991 from scraps of their early writing sessions for what became "U-vox".
I guess it's just a matter of taste but looking back, for me this is miles behind 'Rage In Eden', 'Vienna' and 'Quartet'. I enjoyed the album at the time but I'm not keen on the digital synths or the gaelic influences. By this time Midge, supported by Chris, seemed to have taken charge of the band's direction. I'm not keen on the female backing vocalists or the string quartet on 'Heart Of The Country'. Nevertheless I'll still buy the deluxe edition box set when it comes out for completeness sake. 'White China' was considered as a single. Hence the extended version of it. 'Heart Of The Country' was released as a single in Germany and nowhere else.
Disagree. This is the masterpiece for me.
@@oliverkruse8144 As I said it's a matter of taste.
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"Quartet" used digital synths aplenty.
Nice album but I remember at the time after a few listens of Lament, yearning for the atmospheric mood of Vienna/Rage in Eden. Also too short. Definitely not the album I go to when I want to listen to Ultravox.
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Same.
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Whilst the song writing on the album was strong, for me it used too much in the way of digital synth sounds. The last great album of theirs was Rage in Eden.
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