58:04 "the femboy" meets all the qualifications as a technically correct NATO reporting name for the SU-75 Fighter. It starts with an "F" to indicate fighter aircraft, it's two syllables which indicate it's a jet plane and most importantly it's funny.
That's "dissing" Russia, if anything that particular line compliments hoi4 players. He does compare them to Mos Eisley though, which again I don't think a single hoi player would argue with.
Speaking of a military culture, it still exists in the British army. I grew up in a military family, only reason i didn't join the army and get shipped off to Afghanistan like so many of my school mates was due to my asthma (i was barred from entry on medical grounds). There is a mind set in the British army that dates back to the last civil war some 400 years ago, which clearly separates the Armed forces and our politics. If you want to know of an example, the best i can give was Bernard Montgomery. For all the legitimate criticism, he was the greatest General the British army had throughout the second world war, winning many great victories from El Alamein, planning and commanding the opening phases of all allied armies in D-Day to the crossing of the Rhine. When his military career was over, he retired as a private citizen. There was no political career for him like Eisenhower. Why? He would have won almost any election he'd ran in due to his victories. It was because within British society it just isn't "done". Whilst the armed services has shrunk far below what i at least would consider sound, the idea that it is still our responsibility as the armed victors of WW2, to step forth once again to defend the free peoples of Europe still resonates across the entire political spectrum. Its why we sent NLAW before the war started, and its why we sent Challenger 2's while everyone else was sitting around with their thumbs up their arses. So it still exists, and i think the way Nato is coming together in a way not seen since my childhood at the end of the cold war, i think it will be on the rise once again.1
I completely agree with you here. Putin incentivized the strengthening of NATO and for non-member countries to apply. The US pushing other countries to contribute more to the NATO defense fund has been very helpful too. Putin's actions had the direct opposite of the desired effect. Although I do not think he is ignorant, I think he's just desperate. I'm sure he knew that the west would oppose his invasion this heavily. And I'm glad WE AREN'T APPEASING. One of the world's biggest mistakes in WW2, I'm glad we learned from it. If we let Putin take Ukraine, he will try to take more. Not even just that but more authoritarian regimes around the world might be inspired (China) had Putin been appeased. I just hope that Ukraine eventually gets the F-16s they need.
@@oddiethefox5832 do you really think that Putin just wants to conquer and take whole ukraine than other countries? Explain please... and what point of giving ukraine f-16?
@@ИльяБайдин-п1щ yeah he does, why would he have invasions plans for Moldova? As for the F16, well the F16 is now co sidered outdated by the US and are now probably selling them to their allies like other NATO countries/ Non NATO memeber allies
@@ИльяБайдин-п1щ actually yes. Belarus is a good example because they are heavily russian influenced, and if they took Ukraine for free, the west would seem like the wouldn't oppose an annexation of Belarus. It would inspire China, and who knows if that happened if Russia and China would've officially allied in order for China to secure Taiwan.
@@oddiethefox5832 for the 2nd question, neither Ukraine or Russia as complete aerial superiority, and both are using outdated aircraft. With the f16 and it's capabilities, it would give not only a good ground support asset, but if used effectively, it would mean aerial superiority for Ukraine
Yeah the worst part was hearing how Tommy thinks air is the solution to Ukraine war and that tanks and IFV are supposed to be support units when they have resulted in some of the major breakthroughs we’ve seen so far in Ukraine like at Kharkiv. Tanks and IFV and needed way more than fighters and are the leading solutions to breaking the slow warfare. Planes have shown not to be effective in comparison to the rest because of the amount of anti air vehicles on the ground. Other people that actually know what they are talking about agree with me like most Ukraine coverage channels and the best channel Perun.
@@melkor3496 The problem I see where he is coming from. If you dont have air superiority your tanks get blown out of the water. slow move, hard to maneuver targets. IFVs are in the same boat, granted better off. same goes with artillery. But you Need those tanks and IFVs in conjunction with the others to actually breakthrough. he should know this, after all he uses tanks all the time in the funny game. If you dont have boots on the ground then you dont move forward. armor always helps for those boots on the ground.
@@romanlaws3943 Yeah, other than maybe America, I don't see any near pear countries gaining complete aerial superiority in the near future if a war were to break out. Almost every country has a considerable amount of AA and manpads, and most countries lack SEAD and intel capability to knock them off.
He seems to ignore the necesity of properly training an airforce (that you can't just make planes like in hoi4, you neee to train them for missions). And that doing it takes so much time neither Rusia or Ukraine rn can relay on them for winning (even if they get more planes).
It's cringe how some people in chat were saying the Abrams X is the best tank in the world. It was just a technology demonstrator. No more will be built.
Well best in production thing is probably the Leo 2 but very much depends on the situation against infantry the chally 2 is absolutely crazy and Abrams is also very good in general.
Also plenty of non dictator states have parades, the French are known for theirs involving the entire french military not just one or two units like the rest of Europe and North America.
@@aesthetics8230 also South Africa, plenty of African states do military parades, hell to get back to the South African one, the band played some local pop songs for the practice parade at night time the day before the actual parade so plenty of people went out and started jiving with the trumpets.
Like that ukrainian who found a destroyed t64 tank mistaking it for a russian, then finding bits and pieces of the crew and eating it. I wonder if he found it he ate his own kin.
the engine in the T-80 is not a modification of the Kharkov Model V2. The Kharkov Model V2 was a diesel engine, while the engine in the T-80 is a gas turbine engine.
The military parade is made under the Arc de Triomphe in the Champs Elysée, Elysium, the final resting place of the souls of the heroic and the virtuous in Greek mythology for the only man that revived mythology like the god of war was helping him, Emperor Napoleon. Today there's no more mythology today everything is flat and Napoleon took France and brought France back to the world of mythology there should be statue of deified Napoleon not only France but in all of the world. At a certain time when there was a prehistoric man who discovered fire there were probably those who opposed fire thinking that if we used it we would have a divine sanction there to those who were excited because they saw the full potential of using fire, humans integrated fire the like that it only advances just like the philosophy of enlightenment brought new values such as meritocracy if someone works hard they can climb society individuals were capable of doing good and evil the fact that even their populations revolted against the strict order of monarchy and so Napoleon arrives and with his sword he saves these values alone against all the monarchies of Europe like the discovery of fire it was the bridge between 2 eras, with his saber he cut history into two with the before and the after and he passes the French Revolution to the world by having all the monarchies of Europe on his back he fought 1 against 10 and pushed them off for 20 years straight.
13:01 - What?! No, their lives are way harder than ours. They live like it's the XVII century. Life in the XVII century was hard. They do backbreaking farm work from dawn till dusk every day since childhood. Do you know how hard it is to deep clean your home and clothes without a vacuum cleaner and synthetic chemical deturgents? Not only do they do more chores, the intentionally cripple themselves by not using conveniently made technology to simplify those chores. You literraly watch videos and play vidya all day. You probably order food far more often than you cook. You wouldn't survive one day as an Amish. That doesn't mean that you're wrong about them being "winners". Being an Amish man means you get a tradwife for free with zero effort via an arranged marriage. That means that you are probably going to live with an incompatible person for the rest of your life, though.
26:15 actually the tank didn’t broke down, the driver more likely pulled the handbreak because there is a clip of this exact tank which showed him driving of the red place by its own. But I don’t think this makes it better and I think this tank is still crap
@@MarkGoding that’s being much too generous, the inaccuracies in this video are so prevalent and so egregious that the video amounts to a propaganda piece.
@@Filthy_Freeaboo that's because his videos are propaganda pieces. His entire channel is built on propaganda. It's so tiring seeing his shit everywhere when talking about tanks or just military vehicles in general.
@@Filthy_Freeaboo or maybe its because Russia puts out so much propaganda bullshit about their military junk that its nigh impossible to sort fact from fiction anymore.
To be honest, anyone who wouldn't send wave after wave of soldiers and tanks against fortified areas for literally not a single gain of territory is already better than general Muradov. We often underestimate the unbelievable level of incompetence that plagues the Russian military. Chornobaivka also tells us of similar stupidity.
@@terminatoratrimoden1319You say that as they’re literally the ones constantly gaining important ground....Ukraine meanwhile sent thousands of boys to die for a now fallen city
@@1CE. Russia has peaked in 7th of April. Since then they had retreated from all of the north, then gained Sievierodonetsk and Lysychans'k, then lost all of the Kharkiv and Kherson regions, and from then on they are months and months trying to capture Bakhmut with frontal assaults, having failed to encircle the city. Constantly gaining important ground sounds a bit of a stretch for a country that lost the only regional capital they had captured, and is struggling to capture a medium sized city for half a year. When i talked about Muradov, i was specifically referring to Vuhledar, a place that saw literally thousands of dead soldiers and tens, if not hundreds, of destroyed vehicles for absolutely no changes on the map. When i talked about Chornobaivka i was referring to how they kept resupplying an airfield that was constantly bombarded for months. I could also refer to the crossings of Bilohorivka, where they kept repeating the exact same maneuver in exactly the same place, under Ukrainian artillery fire that was already zeroed in, just to lose almost an entire BTG. Ukraine does send people to die in Bakhmut, but so does Russia, so i don't get your point. Russia is attacking in many points of the front, and they had horrible casualties in Avdiivka and Vuhledar, places that Ukrainians had very little losses. When you refer to "constantly gaining important ground", the only place in the whole front that is advancing is a grindingly slow advance inside Bakhmut, and that's being done by the only part of their war effort that isn't tied to the Russian command, which is Wagner. They are the only guys who consistently do advances in Ukraine, so my point stands, that the Russian military is an incompetent force, unable to crush an army far weaker, far less equipped than their own, unable to gain air superiority, being sabotaged almost every day inside their own territory. This war has proven their army is a paper tiger.
@@terminatoratrimoden1319 Holy copium Batman You obviously have your view of warfare from HOI4. Simply gaining land isn’t impressive it’s about what type of land. Russia holds 90% of Ukraine’s economically productive land In fact it was that so called “counter offensive” they pulled that was perhaps their biggest blunder as those men are all now dead from moving into territory that made them easy targets. Russia recognized that too which is why they retreated and even then it just took some paratroopers to halt that “offensive”. It’s really pretty dumb and let’s not even get into the stupidity at Bakhmut. Sending in thousands of boys to die with no real strategy behind it other than hold the city? I get it served an important role even symbolically but they lost more men than the Allies at D Day over a now lost city. I do wanna point out Russia doesn’t encircle, it’s very much in their strategy to leave a corridor to escape from, you really don’t know wtf you’re on about it you don’t even know that basic knowledge 1 side has more dead than the U.S for the entirety of WW2 the other doesn’t unless you wanna believe human wave tactics are actually ring employed which you’re just a dumba** if so When Ukrainian’s call them “orks” it’s not that they’re pushing them wave after wave but that they literally see them as subhuman. Ukrainian children will play outside while Russian children hide in basements These are the sick Banderist f**ks you’re supporting. Massacred Russians, Jews and Poles in WW2 and that’s the history the current state chooses to build itself on
@@1CE. Human waves are actually being employed and this is well documented. Somehow Russians must be superhuman to be able to just power through Ukraine without having massive losses. I guess they did that mobilization because they want everyone at home to be able to experience war too, right? Ukrainians in the Donbass are so lucky to be liberated, right, so that they can come back to their cities of Sievierodonetsk, Bakhmut, Mariupol and all those cities the Russians peacefully took from Ukraine. Even China is too embarassed to support this new nazis you call Russians.
That was the point and Russia did a dam good job of making the West believe they were strong. The 90s and early 2000s had Russia losing some conflicts which could have made them look weak on the world stage. Yet they were still looked at like they were the Soviet Union with all that encompasses.
the culture you describe at 38:00 is somewhat what we have in Norway and I suspect the rest of Scandinavia and Finland as well. except were not all that militaristic, but that's our attitude to the military in general
LazerPig has no clue about the tank or about Russia. He is just towing the anti-Russia / pro-Ukraine mainstream propaganda line (and gets good cash from it). The dude foams over Elensky ffs.
1:00:45 "i like how he's neutral and doesn't talk about politics" says tommy after listening to a man bashing everything about russia for an hour strait
I saw someone say something in another video about how they liked the fact all the russian tank propaganda is basically just the tanks spinning its gun in every clip. I just noticed it now and its so f*cking funny to me.
@@gidi3250 the bear thing is actually good since it show how stable the canon are they could have used water but german gona be german and most video are actually Test that are filmed for the investor not actual propaganda its just that they endup in the public you wont see an Abram in the new but if you where in china or Russia you will have
Yep In 2017, Philippine army uses planks to protect their armored vechicles from rpg during marawi seige Although this only works on old rpg. Not the newer anti tank weaponry like NLAWS. Those things usually have 2 charges One for reactive armor, one for the main body So yah..in case of this war. Its a cope armor Better not put tanks over urbanized area
@@k.g.b.1150 Lazarpig was in British Intelligence and is an actual historian, while RedEffect is a biased tank UA-camr who mainly does videos to entertain people. Not to shit on RedEffect, people are biased, and his videos entertain, but Lazarpig had an actual background and career, the guy had a job completely based on collecting researched, so don’t go making baseless claims and trying to say a random Tank UA-camr had better researched than a professional researcher.
@@baron6588 Lazerpigs sources in his description directly go against the claims he makes in his video. But uh, i guess he studied history a bit and worked in an intelligence agency so that means he can just pull sources out of his ass
This didn't seem greatly transfortive. LazerPig made a good video & it seems like various points were missed. Please pause the video to discuss with chat & endorce the creater more. Thank you for linking the video in the description but showing the channel & such in the video is better.
@@kryzzan7039 they still are hanging on to bakhmut and why is Russia the “second best army” struggling so much to take they “weak willed ukrianians” also nice dodging my original question two can play at that game. 🤡
3:22 - best tank in the world is the one that is used the most- and those are all soviet tanks. Abrams and leopards are cool and all, but they are over priced beasts that will explode the same way as ruzzian tanks do now. Soviet tanks are easy to produce, easy to crew them and they are expendable. Fortunately, russian and serbian criminals cant think so they get picked off easily. But, for example Ukraine or Croatian soldiers can think. So we use them much, much more efficient.
I'm Australian, atleast half of the professors at the university I go to are Chinese or have Chinese descent, another quarter are immigrants from other countries. I'm not against actually I'm very pro-immigration, I just find it telling how so many people end up moving here from their home countries to work and study.
Lazerpig makes content for entertainment, not for facts. He got virtually nothing correct in his t-14 video, and he says some jokes and his audience takes them literally.
@@schutzanzug4518 he literally got one thing wrong. The engine is more powerful than a modern pickup engine, duh. He got it wrong cuz Russia is the only country that doesn’t measure torque like the rest of the world so the numbers were off. There are none of these tanks. Russias army is a joke. Didn’t know there were so many people with German names who love Russia
3:20 also id say the best tank is the abrahms, it really depends on what you want though, the merkava has the best crew survivabilty, it was designed for the small country in mind and keeps the inexpendable crew safe better than keeping the tank safe, the leopard is ok, its like an abrahms but with less computers and tech on it
the classic soviet architecture was actually quite welcomed at its time. After WW 2 there were a lot of homeless people, try to explain a homeless man that he cant get a place to live because they are buildibg less but more good looking housing
He is a little clueless dude who sits in his house playing games for 15 years now and is more and more disconnected with reality ( votes for the green party who right now destroys the german industrie etc). He only listen to things that HE wants to hear and everything else is "ruzzki propaganda" or "facism". Typical ignorant and delusional. I miss the old tommy who gave a shit about politcs OR gave a good overlook of things. Damn damn...well his viewership will show it :)
@@thelobbyofhobbies3244lazer pig is just condescending when soneone doesn't agree with him. Sometimes he doesn't even link source claiming that you should do research on you'r own (which is total bs when you want to verify what sources HE used) also the whole T-14 Armata engine saga just made me dislike him more cuz he was just acting like a douche ConeofArc wasn't so good either (in that regard) and RedEffect handled it suprisingly proffesionally. Also not to mention Lazer just blindly hopped on the HEHE Armata 1943 German Engine HEHE engine 80 years old HEHE retarded train and then didn't even mentione anything that could disprove that narrative.
The reason why we don’t have a EU army and why the military is so loathed, especially in countries like Germany (who literally hates herself so much that she lets every single opponent, from Turkey to China, humiliate her) is specifically because of the way of thinking that YOU have. You hate your culture, you don’t feel represented by your country, you think that the very idea of protecting the essence of your nation, your people and your culture is “fascist”, and you antagonize everything that’s even slightly connected to the “right-wing”, even when it’s something as vital and collectively important as the military!! If you want to see your dream come true, you must abandon this heavy political polarization and see your compatriots as comrades no matter their political leanings, who literally deserve the potential sacrifice of your life to continue to exist regardless… once you understand this mindset, you’ll start to have a newfound respect for those people who actually choose to serve in the military, and maybe you will support it yourself.
Didn't Germany's far right try to implement a coup and try to install some German prince to turn Germany into a sort of dictatorship or something a few months ago? No way should we side with those nut jobs and the AfD fuck fest.
Tommy using his vast experience as a conscript and watching surface level youtube videos to determine the best way to fight wars. Always good to get the normie take every once in a while I guess. Although I miss pre brainrot tommy
although he is right about the sky being the most important element in modern combat. With air supremacy you pretty much have every advantage in the battlefield. second to that is Logistics
You are not kidding, they had miles-long men of age leaving Russia. Families sending their sons etc out of the country so they don't die in the military operation Russia says.
A good observer or assistant maybe, HoI4 is notorious for its poor representation of combat and geography. Battles literally just rely on comparing numbers and throwing various factors into the mix, but generally once you get the meta division template everywhere, you win every time against AI. Geography _sometimes_ throws a wrench into your plans, but it's nothing enough time won't fix. Irl we actually see why the management of resources, tactical precision, and precise movements are key to victory. Ukraine has, fairly intelligently, fought the war, as opposed to Russia which still has no idea how the consequences of throwing away resources and men affect their capacity to wage war. One year, over 300k casualties (wounded, missing, and dead) later, and they've lost tons of ground despite having a clear advantage in resources and manpower to go around, and may well lose more and suffer a catastrophic tactical defeat in the coming months. Their incapacity to universally adapt and overcome the obstacles in front of them will be their downfall.
There is no "Best tank" in the world really. Modern tanks are all quite comparable to one another, modern tank fights aren't about who's gun is stronger or who has the best armor, it's about who can spot the enemy first and get the first shot off which dictates a fight since every tank utilizes Laser Range finders, thermal sights, stabilized turret drives, and APFSDS munitions. The Abrams X isn't a final design either, it's just a test bed to show what capabilities the Army can do with a next generation tank.
Napoleon said "An army marches on it's stomach". French Sun Tzu, author of the book or scroll really the art of war, Chinese said "Numbers alone conifer no advantage" something ironically China and Russia have failed to grasp. Stalin, Russian, "quantity is a quality all it's own" Said it back when Russian tanks were technologically equal to American, British, and Japanese tanks.
Personally. I still to this day don't see why sweden of all nations abandoned the idea of buying in vehicles. Our 103-B wasn't really a gunbed for any impression but, but it still was designed around a purpose and the area it would serve. The Strv-122 (xx) basically is always gonna suffer in swedish climated because it has the doctrine of adapting to german landscapes, so no real hash weather conditions but mud and dirt and potentially few centimeters of snow MAYBE but in swedens scenario, we got a entire waterline to defend with mud deep as lakes and a big military lining both towards norway and finland. We would not expect an attack from neither. But a possible invader could very well exploit those territories.
I mean, the US was supposed to buy 36 (correction: 32) brand new Zumwalt class stealth missle destoryers. They ended up with 3. And they never even bought the ammo for the 2 main guns. It doesn't surprise me that Russia doesn't fulfil its requisition orders either.
Tanks are not obsolete yet, what can do the tanks job better than itself ( giving direct fire to a target in the attack), the Battleship was ( at the beginning of the 20th century thought to be rendered obsolete by torpedo destroyers. But they can't do what BBs can. It was Carrier based aircraft that can put a 1000lb bomb on a target farther and more accurately that a Bb that did the Battleship in.
Development for the Kharkov Model V2 began in 1946. so it only found its was into much later models of BT-7, the engines used on the BT-7 tank in order are as follows: Mikulin M-5 450 hp (336 kW) V-12 gasoline engine, Mikulin M-17T 450 hp (336 kW) V-12 gasoline engine, V-2 500 hp (373 kW) V-12 diesel engine, V-2-34 500 hp (373 kW) V-12 diesel engine. it is in essence an very old engine, but thats why its not actually used on modern russian tanks. for instance t80 uses a gas turbine engine
Later variants of the t80 have reverted to a diesel engine, the russian generals were not impressed with the performance of the t80 in Chechnya and i believe one swore that no tank with a gas turbine engine would see service while he was still around. And i think you made a typo and meant to say 1936 on the Kharkov V2
@@andrewshaw1571 i dont think they reverted to the diesel and most of the problems with t80 in chechnaya was it facing soviet veterans of afghan war with young barely trained crews
@@ShaanT31 both gas turbine and diesel t80s remain in service. As for Chechnya, I would agree that the russian generals reacted poorly but it was still their reaction. Inexperienced crews, I would argue, were less of a problem vs the corruption. T80s were going into a situation they were ordered into while not properly equipped with era because the supply chain work hadn't been done properly. It's hard to do urban combat in a tank when it's not set up for it and your orders are to put your tank into a situation it shouldn't be in, regardless of the crews competence.
@@andrewshaw1571 actually it was urban conflict that was the biggest problem with inexperienced crews being a back up to that, the corruption definitely was a problem but the entire crux if the issue was inexperienced crews and also inexperienced generals that were given power just cause they were pro yeltsin or pro putin and on topic of t80s with diesel enginesit was specifically the t80ud which was small in numbers due to collapse of soviet union and other small factors and most t80ud were left in Ukrainian service and were after the collapse built by Ukrainians and the remaining t80ud in mainland russia were under moscow guard brigade (source zaloga t80 tank)
I joined the Canadian Armed Forces as an Armoured Officer in 2015. I can confirm this tank, as well as the converted T-72 "Terminator," made quite the stir while I was in training. It was amusing to see them perform so poorly, particularly the Terminators because apparently they embezzled all the money meant for the expensive, advanced optics they were suppose to install, so they all rolled into Ukraine completely blind and got terminated.
Tommy, as an American, the last thing you want is a military culture, that is just a rabbit hole to fascism. You can be super progressive and left wing, and want a powerful military, without wanting a weird cult of personality behind it.
@@BenersantheBread It hasn't been cancelled, mass-production was. The tank itself is still being tested and refined so mass production is cheaper. A T-14 was tested in Ukraine in a support role to see what aspects of the tank needed to be improved
"China isn't stupid" I'm sure Russian generals thought the same thing about Putin, Then Ukraine happened. First thing to learn about humans is this they are currently imperfect, So expect disappointment. Second when it's an imperfect Human whose established a dictatorship, that over a short period of time has absolutely proven it doesn't care about it's people. But prestige don't expect it, it's GOING TO HAPPEN. 😮💨
2:06 i would agree with that statement slightly, while tanks arent fully support, they are as my dad used to say, naked without infantry, i dont know how to explain what there role, but its not quite support either, but definitely not what the common citizen thinks of you say tank
T-90 CAN reverse, just at a pathetic 3 miles per hour. Also its hard to call any tank "better" than the latest fielded M1A2 Abrams, as its the single most battle tested tank. The new Panther or latest Leo might have some better things to them, but thats only in theory until actual combat with them happens. Basically all semi-modern MBT's can destroy each other, its more about crew training and tactics in combined arms Also: there are a couple of Abrams X's, but its not in service since it costs so damn much, but unlike Russia, NATO isn't parading them around claiming to have an army of them. The new Panthers look SICK, i wonder how many will be actually build
Kremlin just came out with ananouncment that the T-14 Armata is too expensive for them as of now and that they will stick to T-90 for now. Pretty much saying that it is the best tank almost in production while also saying it is too expensive for them and they have trouble manafacturing withouth western machines.
If you had a fictional country with a good gpd maybe a Switzerland model would work, where all civilians are requried to train for 3 months so they have basic knowledge about millitary if the fiction country were to be in war
in sacramento here in the US a massive russian sector just APPEARED in it within 20 years, it existed before but it was tiny and now its massive lol its crazy.
@@idkanything7449red effect seems like a much better character because he cites full sources and not just the little snippets that make people like lazerpig sound right whilst forgetting all the context around it
ah yes from Lazerpig the person that said misinformation about the T-14 Armata that was later on showed in a video called "Lazerpig is wrong about the T-14 Armata"
A video by red effect who is incredible biased towards russian tanks. Which was then rebutted by Lazerpig and Chieftain. But I guess it doesn't matter anymore since Russia has decided to abandon the T14 in favor of the flawed but cheap T90.
@@Beans2817 T-72 Series tank good in some way but i agree T-90 has some flaw back same as other tanks all tank has some flaw back but remember tanks can be upgraded to fix those flaws but as tank but its based on who spot the target first in real combat
Armatas burning in Ukraine: 0 Leopards burning in Ukraine: All of them Also, nothing like sweaty gamer man-children drawing analogies from fantasy books aimed at children.
@@grabelli equipment from the 90's. Plus the T14 is being abandoned by the russian military in favor of the t90 which hasn't been doing quite so well in ukraine
@TommyKay Germens didnt abandont K Tiger becouse experience. They did it becouse K Tiger was shit. 90% of them run out of full in best case ... in worst theyr transmision just brake becouse was build for 20 tuns lighter vehicle same was with engine.
Naw, KTs actually had decent availability towards the end of the war compared to Tiger I and _much_ better than the Panther. The problem was they were trying to fight with a tank with a heavy logistical tail in a scenario where their enemy had complete, uncontested air superiority. Even running out of fuel, that's hardly a problem with the tank, it's a country which started out the war needing to capture oil supplies and never succeeded.
@@daskollektiv4593 Availability isn't the same thing as the number manufactured, it's the percentage of vehicles that are operationally capable at a given time. And the KT was at very least effective in just about every way a tank can be (good armour, an excellent gun with good optics, impressive mobility for its size, etc), it was just arriving at a point when _no_ tank would have made any difference.
@@Tom_Cruise_Missile Every year for 31 years, the US Congress publishes a report on US military actions in 2022, the figure was 271 wars in which the US participated over the past 26 years, while Ukraine is on the 268th place in the list
17:29 you know kids probably died from that, right? Jesus, I swear people forget way too quickly about the human cost of war. My sincere condolences to anyone, (Russian or Ukrainian) who’ve lost a father, husband, brother, or son in this stupid war. F you Putin
@@b3ygghsasLet me give a example, directly from one of laser pigs videos. There was a sailor who was in the Russian navy and stationed one the Moskava. He only did it to be able to go to college, it’s a prestigious ship, or was. He joined before the war. And we all know how it turned out. It’s also hard to completely leave your country and friends and family behind. Even if you should.
I don't think the current Leopard is ready for actual war. So the Germans used the Russo-Ukraine war as the testing ground. The main reason is Germany was under the influence of Soviet Russia for far too long. Many of its leaders were pro-Russian (some even, former Soviet), and kept weakening the military in the name of anti-Nazism and peace. So the nation invents high-tech to compensate for the weak military. But unlike the Americans with keep testing their tech to the extreme. Germany doesn't have a budget to do that after a year of corruption and anti-war sentiment.
Okay so Tom isnt wrong about that you need to use equipment correctly. Why Russian tanks are struggling is like Cheifton says entirely upto tactics. For Russian tanks are ment to advance with motorized infantry who clears villages and have the tanks fire upon anything thougher than a cardboard box. But instead they are went out useally alone which allowes the Ukrainians easy pickings and with how Top heavy the Russian army is little change will happend.
If a tank like the Abrams - which costs roughly 25 Mil $ - is "outdated" because it can get destroyed by a 1/2 mil $ Javelin, then even infantry - training costs roughly 1/4 mil $ per person - is invalid, because everyone can get killed by one shot from an AK, which costs about 50 cents per bullet.
Would have been great if Tommy actually bothered to pay attention to more than half of the video and take in all the information that he ended up missing while going on random ass side conversations with his chat
1) You are 100% right that air power is the most important thing in modern warfare. Without control over the air, most tanks are just moving coffins. That said, if there is a ground war, you need tanks and armored warfare divisions to work with your troops (combined warfare) to be truly effective. 2) The most powerful tank today is the Merkeva IV (Israeli), with an important caveat. It is an absolute monster of a tank, weighing in 10 tons heavier than an Abrams, with most of that being armor and weapons. It can fire anti-tank and anti-air missiles from its turret, has 3 remote machine guns, a remote 50cal, and a remote 60mm grenade launcher, all of which have manual redundancies, and some of them have mounts for drones. Also, its APS is the best in the world, by an embarrassing margin, although it is no longer unique to the Merkeva, as the US and Germany bought the system and installed it on the new Abrams and Leopard II. The caveat when declaring it the most powerful tank today is simply that it is ridiculously heavy, has a medium top speed, and is expensive due to the massive amount of tech crammed into it. This means that it isn't great for offensive actions over large distances due to the high energy costs, and it can't operate in all geographies. It was designed to be a defensive super-heavy tank that could crush anything it faced in the environment it was built for, and it does this perfectly well. This means that a tank like the Abrams may be less powerful than the Merkeva IV in the abstract, but much more effective in real-life in certain situations and environments. Merkeva are specialized to a particular role (defensive operations on the border of a small nation) and environment (Middle East), and so weaker tanks are often a better choice in different contexts. Also, this is why the Abrams, Challenger, and Leopard have all adopted pieces of the Merkeva (eg. the Abrams and Leopard II have the Trophy APS, the Leopard II use barrel-fired Lahat missiles, etc), while keeping their own design that fits their needs. 3) There is no best way to design a military in general. Each nation has its own military requirements, which are HEAVILY dependent on geography. For example, the United States needed to develop a strong Air Force and Navy because geography requires that we develop them so that we have the force projection to reach the rest of the world. Without this, a strong Army would be basically useless, as they would have no way of reaching a battlefield outside our borders. Conversely, eastern Europe needed to develop strong Army and armored militaries because they constantly faced ground invasions from all sides. The only real constant in the modern battlefield is developing a strong Air Force and high quality special forces units to conduct commando operations. These are good in all military models, regardless of your other needs.
That makes a lot of sense. The Merkava is designed to fight off all comers (and Israeli is literally surrounded by people that don't like them) but has the strategic mobility of a boat anchor.
@@dinhnguyen2110 The mobility was improved from mk III to mk IV to make it near the lower end of MBTs, but not horribly slow (the mk IV is around 5km/hr slower than an Abrams or Leopard). The greater issue is that it consumes a ton of energy to reach that speed while also powering the various electrical systems in the tank. It has way more electronics that other tanks. The APS is a massive power draw (it's a combo hard-kill and EW suite), some models have VR setups that let the crew see through the walls of the tank (similar to some Apache helicopters), and it has a powerful cooling system that is made necessary by the unique layout. Unlike every other tank, the engine of the Merkeva is in the front of the tank, so that a direct hit from a penetrator would need to go through not only the frontal armor, but the entire engine block and the wall of the armored crew compartment before it could touch the crew or the ammo compartment. This is great for providing extra protection to the tank crew, and means that it will win a 1:1 hit exchange with any other tank (if they trade direct frontal hits with a penetrator, a Merkeva's engine might be taken out, but an Abrams' crew is going to be dead), but it means that the tank also needs to run a cooling system to prevent the heat of the engine from hurting the crew and vital electronics. The fact that it burns energy at such a high rate means that it needs to stay near supply lines. This is easy in a defensive war, but the moment you start having to expand outwards to take territory, it's going to get much more expensive and complicated to keep your tanks running optimally. At that point, the enemy doesn't need to target the tanks--they just need to target the supply lines to prevent the tanks from having their fuel/APS interceptors replenished. The IDF is actually a really interesting outlier case that I wish more militaries would emulate. The fact that everybody serves, including the kids of the politicians and billionaires, and the fact that their population is tiny, means that every soldier's life is given the top priority. This is why their tanks are so excessively powerful and their APCs are made from the prior generation of tanks' hulls/chassis--they won't accept high troop losses and would much rather replace a tank than a skilled tank crew. The sad fact is, for a nation like the US, we have a much easier time replacing tankers than they do, so our military is willing to cut cost corners for volume over quality. If everybody in Congress knew that their kid might one day be sitting in an American tank under fire, I would bet that our design priorities would dramatically shift to that of the Merkeva line. Russia is on the extreme end of this spectrum, giving their troops nothing and sending them in waves that most will not return from.
@@theprogressivecynic2407 I was just rephrasing/simplifying your take. That is why I said "strategic mobility". You yourself alluded to it. How easy it is to take a unit of Merkavas between various theatres.
I'd bet you'd love TIKHistory videos, his videos on Germany, Fascism, Marxism, Nazism etc are absolutely amazing. He did a video on why Hitler didn't trust his generals? for example. He likes to crap on just about all collectivist ideologies so I bet you'd love him.
@@pal-vx2mn He doesn't falsely claim. The amount of evidence he presents is overwhelming. He uses primary sources, that many socialist would support. He just don't take contradictions as "Truth" like when Tooze says Party owned Organizations are Private... which is clearly a false statement. Tooze's famous quote on that subject is often used by Socialist despite that quote having an OBVIOUS contradiction within it, being the Party was the "State" so if they're organizations controlled by the Party then they are the state. So transferring assets to Party Affiliated Organizations wasn't Privatization but a Dismantling of the old state, into the new State which was the Nazi State. Yet Denialist are so far up their ass they don't seem to grasp something as simple as a Single Party Dictatorship isn't a PRIVATE organization. I mean I literally just ran into another one of his critics who said Democracy is REQUIRED for Socialism. But when I brought up every Red Bannered Regime in history "Wasn't Democratic" and almost all historians agree they were Socialist he claimed they were State Capitalist. I've never once in my life seen someone so stupid to think the USSR was State Capitalism. But then again Socialist still can not decide whether China is State Capitalist or Market Socialist, which heavily implies that State Capitalism and Market Socialism are so similar that the only REAL functional difference is which regime do Socialist like? I'm also glad more people seem to be coming to a similar conclusion. Another channel ShortFatOtaku hints at it quite a lot. His most recent video he even showed "Fascism" as a branch of Marxism. Which is true, being Marxist Syndicalism branched into National Syndicalism which in turn became Fascist Syndicalism, which was in turn renamed Fascist Corporatism. Being most Fascist were originally either members of the Italian Syndicalist League, or the Italian Socialist Party prior to the 1920s, Marxism's influence on Fascism itself is literally undeniable. Basically instead of being a Reactionary movement it's literally just another Branch of Marxism similar to Leninism and like the Leninist the Fascist were just as hostile towards revival socialist groups. The Foundation for Economic Education has hinted at it a lot as well but like many history tube channels avoid the subject like the plague for Flak Reasons, even though you can tell those working on their videos support it. FEE accidentally gave away that they view the Nazis as Socialist in one of their videos when they accidentally put a picture of Hitler and the Nazis when speaking about East Germany, and replied to a comment complementing them on that mistake, saying they made the mistake but agree with the message and boy did the FLAK roll in fast the moment they did so. FEE a Centrist Liberal channel. So is ShortFatOtaku and TIKhistory btw. It's ironic that Liberal channels are presenting it this way. Not Leftist, and not Rightist. In fact TIK recently rejected the very concept of Right/Left Wing as a political spectrum. Something most of these Liberal channels seem to agree on, none of them want to be associated with either the left or the right. Yet of course get flak from all sides for doing so, or as TIK put it "once you top shilling for one side or the other, large parts of history start to make sense." Which is the problem most people have. Being a centrist, or moderate Liberal is literally a minority position. So most people are extremely bias to a point of denialism. This is how you end up with scenarios like Toozes when he considers Organizations Controlled by the Nazi Party as Private. Because it relies on denialism for someone to make such a stupid statement.
@@pal-vx2mn more like version of socialist though that video is shaky but his other video's are quiet good my favourite is one on fuel problems of Germany
58:04 "the femboy" meets all the qualifications as a technically correct NATO reporting name for the SU-75 Fighter. It starts with an "F" to indicate fighter aircraft, it's two syllables which indicate it's a jet plane and most importantly it's funny.
In before someone calls them out like that time after a news crew recorded the USA military calling something fag, people didn't like it.
@@gidi3250it's the Fagot. Apparently it's an instrument.
Tommy: Give me a month and I'll be better at commanding than Russian generals.
Ukraine: oh no 🥺
Loses within an hour😂
tommy is lowskill ngl
He'd rather run away after finding out what a nightmare it is
@@dvghgh8017lol k
@@mrkripo6227wahhhhh
Lazerpig dissed hoi4 players in his first video about Ukraine said that even hoi4 players are better that Russian generals
That's "dissing" Russia, if anything that particular line compliments hoi4 players. He does compare them to Mos Eisley though, which again I don't think a single hoi player would argue with.
But it's true. Even hoi players know not to run a field marshall plan with a giant arrow
My brother in Christ that's a diss on Russia not hoi4 players
@@hUCK- lazerpig called hoi 4 players lowest form of humanity so yeah
1:50 he described how the Gulf War was accomplished. Tommy legit would at least be a somewhat competent commander in Russia atm.
Speaking of a military culture, it still exists in the British army. I grew up in a military family, only reason i didn't join the army and get shipped off to Afghanistan like so many of my school mates was due to my asthma (i was barred from entry on medical grounds). There is a mind set in the British army that dates back to the last civil war some 400 years ago, which clearly separates the Armed forces and our politics. If you want to know of an example, the best i can give was Bernard Montgomery. For all the legitimate criticism, he was the greatest General the British army had throughout the second world war, winning many great victories from El Alamein, planning and commanding the opening phases of all allied armies in D-Day to the crossing of the Rhine. When his military career was over, he retired as a private citizen. There was no political career for him like Eisenhower. Why? He would have won almost any election he'd ran in due to his victories. It was because within British society it just isn't "done". Whilst the armed services has shrunk far below what i at least would consider sound, the idea that it is still our responsibility as the armed victors of WW2, to step forth once again to defend the free peoples of Europe still resonates across the entire political spectrum. Its why we sent NLAW before the war started, and its why we sent Challenger 2's while everyone else was sitting around with their thumbs up their arses.
So it still exists, and i think the way Nato is coming together in a way not seen since my childhood at the end of the cold war, i think it will be on the rise once again.1
I completely agree with you here. Putin incentivized the strengthening of NATO and for non-member countries to apply. The US pushing other countries to contribute more to the NATO defense fund has been very helpful too. Putin's actions had the direct opposite of the desired effect. Although I do not think he is ignorant, I think he's just desperate. I'm sure he knew that the west would oppose his invasion this heavily. And I'm glad WE AREN'T APPEASING. One of the world's biggest mistakes in WW2, I'm glad we learned from it. If we let Putin take Ukraine, he will try to take more. Not even just that but more authoritarian regimes around the world might be inspired (China) had Putin been appeased. I just hope that Ukraine eventually gets the F-16s they need.
@@oddiethefox5832 do you really think that Putin just wants to conquer and take whole ukraine than other countries? Explain please... and what point of giving ukraine f-16?
@@ИльяБайдин-п1щ yeah he does, why would he have invasions plans for Moldova?
As for the F16, well the F16 is now co sidered outdated by the US and are now probably selling them to their allies like other NATO countries/ Non NATO memeber allies
@@ИльяБайдин-п1щ actually yes. Belarus is a good example because they are heavily russian influenced, and if they took Ukraine for free, the west would seem like the wouldn't oppose an annexation of Belarus. It would inspire China, and who knows if that happened if Russia and China would've officially allied in order for China to secure Taiwan.
@@oddiethefox5832 for the 2nd question, neither Ukraine or Russia as complete aerial superiority, and both are using outdated aircraft. With the f16 and it's capabilities, it would give not only a good ground support asset, but if used effectively, it would mean aerial superiority for Ukraine
Rip another reaction video where Tommy barerly listens and follows the actual things said and showed in the video.
Right
Fist time I've seen my German brother here. Damn he is annoying.
@@markwtal9453cap
What did you expect from a man who’s played video games all day for the last 15 years
yeah, lost attention half way through and missed a lot of important things that way, a shame.
It hurts to listen to Tommykays Military "Genius"
Yeah the worst part was hearing how Tommy thinks air is the solution to Ukraine war and that tanks and IFV are supposed to be support units when they have resulted in some of the major breakthroughs we’ve seen so far in Ukraine like at Kharkiv.
Tanks and IFV and needed way more than fighters and are the leading solutions to breaking the slow warfare. Planes have shown not to be effective in comparison to the rest because of the amount of anti air vehicles on the ground.
Other people that actually know what they are talking about agree with me like most Ukraine coverage channels and the best channel Perun.
@@melkor3496 his mind is corrupted after tousen apon tousen of hours in hoi4.
IFV is defently overlooled by most media
@@melkor3496 The problem I see where he is coming from. If you dont have air superiority your tanks get blown out of the water. slow move, hard to maneuver targets. IFVs are in the same boat, granted better off. same goes with artillery. But you Need those tanks and IFVs in conjunction with the others to actually breakthrough. he should know this, after all he uses tanks all the time in the funny game. If you dont have boots on the ground then you dont move forward. armor always helps for those boots on the ground.
@@romanlaws3943 Yeah, other than maybe America, I don't see any near pear countries gaining complete aerial superiority in the near future if a war were to break out. Almost every country has a considerable amount of AA and manpads, and most countries lack SEAD and intel capability to knock them off.
He seems to ignore the necesity of properly training an airforce (that you can't just make planes like in hoi4, you neee to train them for missions). And that doing it takes so much time neither Rusia or Ukraine rn can relay on them for winning (even if they get more planes).
It's cringe how some people in chat were saying the Abrams X is the best tank in the world. It was just a technology demonstrator. No more will be built.
Well best in production thing is probably the Leo 2 but very much depends on the situation against infantry the chally 2 is absolutely crazy and Abrams is also very good in general.
Watch the actual video, not this reaction crap.
lazerp pig said the new Abrams is not being built because it is not NEEDED YET.
@@mediawarrior5957 yeah of nato was concerned they could make something better and would be right now.
@@mediawarrior5957 modernized mbts from the 80s can still make good work on a bunch of t72s with era slapped on it.
0:18 To be fair, the parade is Victory Day. To celebrate WW2 victory over Germany.
Also plenty of non dictator states have parades, the French are known for theirs involving the entire french military not just one or two units like the rest of Europe and North America.
@@gidi3250also Austria
@@aesthetics8230 also South Africa, plenty of African states do military parades, hell to get back to the South African one, the band played some local pop songs for the practice parade at night time the day before the actual parade so plenty of people went out and started jiving with the trumpets.
@@gidi3250 kek
also some dictatorship doesn't have parades. like USA
You don’t want to see tanks blowing human to pieces tommy. But yes, those tank videos are out there
Could you send me a link or tell me where are these footages available?
@Brutus LiveLeak may be gone but the demand is still there
@Brutus Because a man should be ready for everything. I want to know what it's like. Not like I necessarily enjoy watching these footages.
Like that ukrainian who found a destroyed t64 tank mistaking it for a russian, then finding bits and pieces of the crew and eating it. I wonder if he found it he ate his own kin.
@@Silver_Prussian Or the hundreds of videos of Russian soldiers crawling around in agony, slowly dying after being hit by Ukrainian drone strikes :D
the engine in the T-80 is not a modification of the Kharkov Model V2. The Kharkov Model V2 was a diesel engine, while the engine in the T-80 is a gas turbine engine.
He actually said it is not used in t64 and t80!!!
@@juanjaubertpoggio7629 t90 uses a V-92S2 diesel engine that as far as I know is a new multi fuel diesel engine that was developed in the 90s
Listen to lazerpig's own damn video dude he says this!
@@elijah4666 "as far as you know" isn't a great argument
@@Tom_Cruise_Missilered effect debunked this😂
22:58 the german really coming out
Well he does have videos where people asked about his former friends in Russia and he went on a rant about them being dumb in the head.
@@gidi3250 He is racist basically.
@@Jarbar36 Nah is european tradition to hate those pesky russians ;)
@@gidi3250 what did he say about them?
Everyone thinks that not just Germans. Who tf wants to look at an impoverished frozen wasteland?
"these dictatorships have military parades"--
France😔
Haha
There are many more democratic countries that have military parades. Not that it was even a point he was making.
The military parade is made under the Arc de Triomphe in the Champs Elysée, Elysium, the final resting place of the souls of the heroic and the virtuous in Greek mythology for the only man that revived mythology like the god of war was helping him, Emperor Napoleon. Today there's no more mythology today everything is flat and Napoleon took France and brought France back to the world of mythology there should be statue of deified Napoleon not only France but in all of the world.
At a certain time when there was a prehistoric man who discovered fire there were probably those who opposed fire thinking that if we used it we would have a divine sanction there to those who were excited because they saw the full potential of using fire, humans integrated fire the like that it only advances just like the philosophy of enlightenment brought new values such as meritocracy if someone works hard they can climb society individuals were capable of doing good and evil the fact that even their populations revolted against the strict order of monarchy and so Napoleon arrives and with his sword he saves these values alone against all the monarchies of Europe like the discovery of fire it was the bridge between 2 eras, with his saber he cut history into two with the before and the after and he passes the French Revolution to the world by having all the monarchies of Europe on his back he fought 1 against 10 and pushed them off for 20 years straight.
13:01 - What?! No, their lives are way harder than ours. They live like it's the XVII century. Life in the XVII century was hard. They do backbreaking farm work from dawn till dusk every day since childhood. Do you know how hard it is to deep clean your home and clothes without a vacuum cleaner and synthetic chemical deturgents? Not only do they do more chores, the intentionally cripple themselves by not using conveniently made technology to simplify those chores. You literraly watch videos and play vidya all day. You probably order food far more often than you cook. You wouldn't survive one day as an Amish. That doesn't mean that you're wrong about them being "winners". Being an Amish man means you get a tradwife for free with zero effort via an arranged marriage. That means that you are probably going to live with an incompatible person for the rest of your life, though.
Hey Tommy. If you are interested in military stuff I'd recomend you to watch a video on Finnish nuclear bunkers.
I would recomend checking the video called "Why there's a swimming pool inside a nuclear proof bunker?", by the UA-cam channel "Not what you think".
Sounds cool
26:15 actually the tank didn’t broke down, the driver more likely pulled the handbreak because there is a clip of this exact tank which showed him driving of the red place by its own. But I don’t think this makes it better and I think this tank is still crap
I advise watching Red Effects video Response wich clears things up quite alot
The fuck am I watching? My braincells are dying.
Tommy tries and fails to understand how war works outside of HOI4
As much as i love lazerpig, he got a surprising amount of stuff wrong. And when i say a Lot i mean a LOT
That's the trouble with when your channel gets big, you have to pump out content fast. I'm wondering if he will say anything about the reaction vid?
@@MarkGoding that’s being much too generous, the inaccuracies in this video are so prevalent and so egregious that the video amounts to a propaganda piece.
@@Filthy_Freeaboo that's because his videos are propaganda pieces. His entire channel is built on propaganda. It's so tiring seeing his shit everywhere when talking about tanks or just military vehicles in general.
@@Filthy_Freeaboo or maybe its because Russia puts out so much propaganda bullshit about their military junk that its nigh impossible to sort fact from fiction anymore.
@Filthy_Freeaboo what did he get wrong can you give me some examples
hoi 4 players casually explaining to trained experienced generals how they'd command their troops better
To be honest, anyone who wouldn't send wave after wave of soldiers and tanks against fortified areas for literally not a single gain of territory is already better than general Muradov. We often underestimate the unbelievable level of incompetence that plagues the Russian military. Chornobaivka also tells us of similar stupidity.
@@terminatoratrimoden1319You say that as they’re literally the ones constantly gaining important ground....Ukraine meanwhile sent thousands of boys to die for a now fallen city
@@1CE. Russia has peaked in 7th of April. Since then they had retreated from all of the north, then gained Sievierodonetsk and Lysychans'k, then lost all of the Kharkiv and Kherson regions, and from then on they are months and months trying to capture Bakhmut with frontal assaults, having failed to encircle the city. Constantly gaining important ground sounds a bit of a stretch for a country that lost the only regional capital they had captured, and is struggling to capture a medium sized city for half a year.
When i talked about Muradov, i was specifically referring to Vuhledar, a place that saw literally thousands of dead soldiers and tens, if not hundreds, of destroyed vehicles for absolutely no changes on the map. When i talked about Chornobaivka i was referring to how they kept resupplying an airfield that was constantly bombarded for months. I could also refer to the crossings of Bilohorivka, where they kept repeating the exact same maneuver in exactly the same place, under Ukrainian artillery fire that was already zeroed in, just to lose almost an entire BTG. Ukraine does send people to die in Bakhmut, but so does Russia, so i don't get your point. Russia is attacking in many points of the front, and they had horrible casualties in Avdiivka and Vuhledar, places that Ukrainians had very little losses.
When you refer to "constantly gaining important ground", the only place in the whole front that is advancing is a grindingly slow advance inside Bakhmut, and that's being done by the only part of their war effort that isn't tied to the Russian command, which is Wagner. They are the only guys who consistently do advances in Ukraine, so my point stands, that the Russian military is an incompetent force, unable to crush an army far weaker, far less equipped than their own, unable to gain air superiority, being sabotaged almost every day inside their own territory. This war has proven their army is a paper tiger.
@@terminatoratrimoden1319 Holy copium Batman
You obviously have your view of warfare from HOI4. Simply gaining land isn’t impressive it’s about what type of land. Russia holds 90% of Ukraine’s economically productive land
In fact it was that so called “counter offensive” they pulled that was perhaps their biggest blunder as those men are all now dead from moving into territory that made them easy targets. Russia recognized that too which is why they retreated and even then it just took some paratroopers to halt that “offensive”. It’s really pretty dumb and let’s not even get into the stupidity at Bakhmut. Sending in thousands of boys to die with no real strategy behind it other than hold the city? I get it served an important role even symbolically but they lost more men than the Allies at D Day over a now lost city. I do wanna point out Russia doesn’t encircle, it’s very much in their strategy to leave a corridor to escape from, you really don’t know wtf you’re on about it you don’t even know that basic knowledge
1 side has more dead than the U.S for the entirety of WW2 the other doesn’t unless you wanna believe human wave tactics are actually ring employed which you’re just a dumba** if so
When Ukrainian’s call them “orks” it’s not that they’re pushing them wave after wave but that they literally see them as subhuman. Ukrainian children will play outside while Russian children hide in basements
These are the sick Banderist f**ks you’re supporting. Massacred Russians, Jews and Poles in WW2 and that’s the history the current state chooses to build itself on
@@1CE. Human waves are actually being employed and this is well documented. Somehow Russians must be superhuman to be able to just power through Ukraine without having massive losses. I guess they did that mobilization because they want everyone at home to be able to experience war too, right? Ukrainians in the Donbass are so lucky to be liberated, right, so that they can come back to their cities of Sievierodonetsk, Bakhmut, Mariupol and all those cities the Russians peacefully took from Ukraine. Even China is too embarassed to support this new nazis you call Russians.
That was the point and Russia did a dam good job of making the West believe they were strong. The 90s and early 2000s had Russia losing some conflicts which could have made them look weak on the world stage. Yet they were still looked at like they were the Soviet Union with all that encompasses.
the culture you describe at 38:00 is somewhat what we have in Norway and I suspect the rest of Scandinavia and Finland as well. except were not all that militaristic, but that's our attitude to the military in general
This video was actually countered recently by a lil slavic guy, he didn't say the tank was amazing he just corrected lazerpig on a few things.
Thank you for actually being normal, there are soooo many morons who act like redeffect fcking murdered Lazerpig in real life or some shit.
Yeah he did it in a very normal analytical way that wasn't insulting to him either. His channel is very pleasant.
A few things in that video were nitpicking though. But laserpigs whine comment was stupid
LazerPig has no clue about the tank or about Russia. He is just towing the anti-Russia / pro-Ukraine mainstream propaganda line (and gets good cash from it). The dude foams over Elensky ffs.
homie what do you mean by little, red effect literally has 155k subs lol. its not like he's a tiny creator
1:00:45 "i like how he's neutral and doesn't talk about politics" says tommy after listening to a man bashing everything about russia for an hour strait
I saw someone say something in another video about how they liked the fact all the russian tank propaganda is basically just the tanks spinning its gun in every clip. I just noticed it now and its so f*cking funny to me.
Or how European tank propoganda is it driving over civilian cars or doing laps while holding up beer.
@@gidi3250 the bear thing is actually good since it show how stable the canon are they could have used water but german gona be german and most video are actually Test that are filmed for the investor not actual propaganda its just that they endup in the public you wont see an Abram in the new but if you where in china or Russia you will have
Tommy, your laugh is so fucking contagious. thanks for the temporary escape from my life.
Quantity not quality. Yet seemingly the Russians have lost their ground on that one too
You say that like it's a good thing to begun with
@@daskollektiv4593 what part of what I said conveyed me treating it positively?
@@CptDawner even mentioning "quantity vs quality" implies that its a good idea to begun with
@@daskollektiv4593 I feel like that’s a faulty assumption to start with. I was stating the usual Russian attitude to development across history.
@@CptDawner that's fair but it's fair from a faulty assumption
They say their turrets turn fast and fligh high.
funny enough attaching cardboard to armored vehicles actually "protects" it against rpg's
Yep
In 2017, Philippine army uses planks to protect their armored vechicles from rpg during marawi seige
Although this only works on old rpg. Not the newer anti tank weaponry like NLAWS. Those things usually have 2 charges
One for reactive armor, one for the main body
So yah..in case of this war. Its a cope armor
Better not put tanks over urbanized area
48:04 anyone else thought they heared Sam from metro?
Having already watched the video on the T-14 Armata I want to see Tommy's reaction to it. This is gonna be fun
same as well like 2 weeks ago
Now you should watch RedEffect's video on just how little research LazerPig did on the T-14 and on tanks in general.
@@k.g.b.1150 they want to be ignorant nothing else
@@k.g.b.1150 Lazarpig was in British Intelligence and is an actual historian, while RedEffect is a biased tank UA-camr who mainly does videos to entertain people. Not to shit on RedEffect, people are biased, and his videos entertain, but Lazarpig had an actual background and career, the guy had a job completely based on collecting researched, so don’t go making baseless claims and trying to say a random Tank UA-camr had better researched than a professional researcher.
@@baron6588 Lazerpigs sources in his description directly go against the claims he makes in his video. But uh, i guess he studied history a bit and worked in an intelligence agency so that means he can just pull sources out of his ass
This didn't seem greatly transfortive. LazerPig made a good video & it seems like various points were missed.
Please pause the video to discuss with chat & endorce the creater more. Thank you for linking the video in the description but showing the channel & such in the video is better.
I really hate questions like what is the best tank in the world cause all tanks are effective in different ways
Yeah and the t14 is in none. 😂
@@ilikeships9333 ukro bot
@@kryzzan7039 Russia bot, please inform me why the t14 is any good?
@@ilikeships9333 Please inform me why UA can't even hold Bahkmut? Would love to hear your excuses.
@@kryzzan7039 they still are hanging on to bakhmut and why is Russia the “second best army” struggling so much to take they “weak willed ukrianians” also nice dodging my original question two can play at that game. 🤡
1:45 listen to the hoi4 player with irl strats 😂
23:09 most "Russian tolerant" German man.
tommy trying to post a video not about ukraine: impossible
don't like it, don't watch it
@@octopusguy5648 are your really gatekeeping, my guy
@@evenlord7825 what? that is not what gapekeeping means
its funny to see all the russia apologists in the comments
@@viktormehl4311 Not one here bro
3:22 - best tank in the world is the one that is used the most- and those are all soviet tanks.
Abrams and leopards are cool and all, but they are over priced beasts that will explode the same way as ruzzian tanks do now.
Soviet tanks are easy to produce, easy to crew them and they are expendable.
Fortunately, russian and serbian criminals cant think so they get picked off easily.
But, for example Ukraine or Croatian soldiers can think. So we use them much, much more efficient.
Abrams have blow off panels
Lazerpig made an update on the video addressing the criticism of red effect
He SHREDDED red effect
LP is a bs and bias source
(He did infact not "shred" Redeffect)
(THIS IS PURE COPE BECAUSE LAZERPIG WAS CAUGHT LYING)
I'm Australian, atleast half of the professors at the university I go to are Chinese or have Chinese descent, another quarter are immigrants from other countries. I'm not against actually I'm very pro-immigration, I just find it telling how so many people end up moving here from their home countries to work and study.
Thank you for watching this. Also, I would 100% recommend Lazerpigs entire channel. It’s one of the best I’ve come across recently
Lazerpig makes content for entertainment, not for facts. He got virtually nothing correct in his t-14 video, and he says some jokes and his audience takes them literally.
Not great for anybody looking for actual insight but some might find him entertaining. I could recommend much better channels for information.
@@schutzanzug4518 he literally got one thing wrong. The engine is more powerful than a modern pickup engine, duh. He got it wrong cuz Russia is the only country that doesn’t measure torque like the rest of the world so the numbers were off. There are none of these tanks. Russias army is a joke. Didn’t know there were so many people with German names who love Russia
@@nathanpitek3177 he got a LOT more then that wrong.
@@nathanpitek3177 he got one hour worth of shit wrong you goofball
3:20 also id say the best tank is the abrahms, it really depends on what you want though, the merkava has the best crew survivabilty, it was designed for the small country in mind and keeps the inexpendable crew safe better than keeping the tank safe, the leopard is ok, its like an abrahms but with less computers and tech on it
You have no idea what u are talking about
the classic soviet architecture was actually quite welcomed at its time.
After WW 2 there were a lot of homeless people, try to explain a homeless man that he cant get a place to live because they are buildibg less but more good looking housing
Yeah but you can Upgrade IT to make IT Look more beautifull east Berlin is a great example
Yeah because every city was obliterated
At its time yes. But it hasn't improved in decades nor has the quality of life
This Tank HUMILIATED Russia by being better then anything in the West right now!
Fr
How can you do a realistic simulation when you don't know anything about the T14.
He is a little clueless dude who sits in his house playing games for 15 years now and is more and more disconnected with reality ( votes for the green party who right now destroys the german industrie etc). He only listen to things that HE wants to hear and everything else is "ruzzki propaganda" or "facism". Typical ignorant and delusional. I miss the old tommy who gave a shit about politcs OR gave a good overlook of things. Damn damn...well his viewership will show it :)
It hurts to see him watch lazer pig
whats wrong with lazer pig? I watch his videos and they seem to be alright.
@@thelobbyofhobbies3244lazer pig is just condescending when soneone doesn't agree with him. Sometimes he doesn't even link source claiming that you should do research on you'r own (which is total bs when you want to verify what sources HE used) also the whole T-14 Armata engine saga just made me dislike him more cuz he was just acting like a douche ConeofArc wasn't so good either (in that regard) and RedEffect handled it suprisingly proffesionally. Also not to mention Lazer just blindly hopped on the HEHE Armata 1943 German Engine HEHE engine 80 years old HEHE retarded train and then didn't even mentione anything that could disprove that narrative.
@@thelobbyofhobbies3244theyre biased
@@thefrunze.198 Like everything on the internet?
Does the turret always spin like that when moving? lmao
naaawww they sped up the video
7:40 Communism is when no food and when daddy America tells me it's bad.
Socialism is an objectively better system than communism
P.S.
Communism is good in theory, not so much in practice. Socialism in comparison works both in theory and in practice
@@thepioneer1525 Yeah, I was experimenting with new ideas at this time since I was fresh out of being far-right.
The reason why we don’t have a EU army and why the military is so loathed, especially in countries like Germany (who literally hates herself so much that she lets every single opponent, from Turkey to China, humiliate her) is specifically because of the way of thinking that YOU have.
You hate your culture, you don’t feel represented by your country, you think that the very idea of protecting the essence of your nation, your people and your culture is “fascist”, and you antagonize everything that’s even slightly connected to the “right-wing”, even when it’s something as vital and collectively important as the military!!
If you want to see your dream come true, you must abandon this heavy political polarization and see your compatriots as comrades no matter their political leanings, who literally deserve the potential sacrifice of your life to continue to exist regardless… once you understand this mindset, you’ll start to have a newfound respect for those people who actually choose to serve in the military, and maybe you will support it yourself.
Didn't Germany's far right try to implement a coup and try to install some German prince to turn Germany into a sort of dictatorship or something a few months ago? No way should we side with those nut jobs and the AfD fuck fest.
Couldn't have said it Better.
agree BUT please dont call germany a her, its a fatherland.
Best way of making a Army:
50% in air and air defense
30% in ground, and more in artelerie, than tanks
20% in Ships and submarines
You know it's bad when china calls the tank bad
It never did he made the whole thing up
The entire video is just a massive lie.
@@schutzanzug4518 oh hey its the same russian bot
@@raulisrael7342 watch redeffects counter video
@@schutzanzug4518 russian bot
The way the British use tanks are the best way in my opinion. Used in infantry support not frontal assault… then again I’m biased 🇬🇧
To be fair, Challenger II won the NATO competition, British tanks, tankcrews and armoured tactics are just the best
Tommy using his vast experience as a conscript and watching surface level youtube videos to determine the best way to fight wars.
Always good to get the normie take every once in a while I guess. Although I miss pre brainrot tommy
There was a time he didn't have brain rot? Cause I don't remember it
How DARE this person SAY HIS OPINIONS THAT YOU DONT'T AGREE WITH, right? Such NORMIE BRAINROT am i right?
although he is right about the sky being the most important element in modern combat. With air supremacy you pretty much have every advantage in the battlefield. second to that is Logistics
@@forsaturn4629 afghanistan and vietnam say otherwise lmao, it all depends on terrain
@@daskollektiv4593 it was back when he was doing vanilla MP as Japan all the time, he'd watch some IRL videos and actually had some insightful views.
You are not kidding, they had miles-long men of age leaving Russia. Families sending their sons etc out of the country so they don't die in the military operation Russia says.
Bro fr though Hoi4 players could probably be actual generals
at this point... yeah
Eh maybe, though but they would be a decent officer, maybe not a general though
Absolutely not...
Depends on what army if it’s a bureaucratic mess like this maybe
A good observer or assistant maybe, HoI4 is notorious for its poor representation of combat and geography. Battles literally just rely on comparing numbers and throwing various factors into the mix, but generally once you get the meta division template everywhere, you win every time against AI. Geography _sometimes_ throws a wrench into your plans, but it's nothing enough time won't fix.
Irl we actually see why the management of resources, tactical precision, and precise movements are key to victory. Ukraine has, fairly intelligently, fought the war, as opposed to Russia which still has no idea how the consequences of throwing away resources and men affect their capacity to wage war. One year, over 300k casualties (wounded, missing, and dead) later, and they've lost tons of ground despite having a clear advantage in resources and manpower to go around, and may well lose more and suffer a catastrophic tactical defeat in the coming months. Their incapacity to universally adapt and overcome the obstacles in front of them will be their downfall.
Best Tank in service: Leopard 2
Best Tank in Prototyping Phase: Abrams X
There is no "Best tank" in the world really. Modern tanks are all quite comparable to one another, modern tank fights aren't about who's gun is stronger or who has the best armor, it's about who can spot the enemy first and get the first shot off which dictates a fight since every tank utilizes Laser Range finders, thermal sights, stabilized turret drives, and APFSDS munitions. The Abrams X isn't a final design either, it's just a test bed to show what capabilities the Army can do with a next generation tank.
@@crusader_wolf1104I agree
Napoleon said "An army marches on it's stomach". French
Sun Tzu, author of the book or scroll really the art of war, Chinese said "Numbers alone conifer no advantage" something ironically China and Russia have failed to grasp.
Stalin, Russian, "quantity is a quality all it's own" Said it back when Russian tanks were technologically equal to American, British, and Japanese tanks.
t-62M technologically equal to american, british and jerman tanks. don't know about japanese, never see them in battle after ww2
Personally. I still to this day don't see why sweden of all nations abandoned the idea of buying in vehicles. Our 103-B wasn't really a gunbed for any impression but, but it still was designed around a purpose and the area it would serve. The Strv-122 (xx) basically is always gonna suffer in swedish climated because it has the doctrine of adapting to german landscapes, so no real hash weather conditions but mud and dirt and potentially few centimeters of snow MAYBE but in swedens scenario, we got a entire waterline to defend with mud deep as lakes and a big military lining both towards norway and finland. We would not expect an attack from neither. But a possible invader could very well exploit those territories.
Lazerpig and Tommy in one vid.
My prayers were answered
The only thing to top this would be those two becoming the lead strategists in a war between Germany and GB.😂
we did it reddit
I mean, the US was supposed to buy 36 (correction: 32) brand new Zumwalt class stealth missle destoryers. They ended up with 3. And they never even bought the ammo for the 2 main guns. It doesn't surprise me that Russia doesn't fulfil its requisition orders either.
holy shit i started watching and 3 minutes in i realised its 1 hour video, lol.
Tanks are not obsolete yet, what can do the tanks job better than itself ( giving direct fire to a target in the attack), the Battleship was ( at the beginning of the 20th century thought to be rendered obsolete by torpedo destroyers. But they can't do what BBs can. It was Carrier based aircraft that can put a 1000lb bomb on a target farther and more accurately that a Bb that did the Battleship in.
Development for the Kharkov Model V2 began in 1946. so it only found its was into much later models of BT-7, the engines used on the BT-7 tank in order are as follows: Mikulin M-5 450 hp (336 kW) V-12 gasoline engine, Mikulin M-17T 450 hp (336 kW) V-12 gasoline engine, V-2 500 hp (373 kW) V-12 diesel engine, V-2-34 500 hp (373 kW) V-12 diesel engine. it is in essence an very old engine, but thats why its not actually used on modern russian tanks. for instance t80 uses a gas turbine engine
Laserpig said it is not used in t64 or t80, but it is in t90. Obviously very modified
Later variants of the t80 have reverted to a diesel engine, the russian generals were not impressed with the performance of the t80 in Chechnya and i believe one swore that no tank with a gas turbine engine would see service while he was still around.
And i think you made a typo and meant to say 1936 on the Kharkov V2
@@andrewshaw1571 i dont think they reverted to the diesel and most of the problems with t80 in chechnaya was it facing soviet veterans of afghan war with young barely trained crews
@@ShaanT31 both gas turbine and diesel t80s remain in service.
As for Chechnya, I would agree that the russian generals reacted poorly but it was still their reaction.
Inexperienced crews, I would argue, were less of a problem vs the corruption. T80s were going into a situation they were ordered into while not properly equipped with era because the supply chain work hadn't been done properly.
It's hard to do urban combat in a tank when it's not set up for it and your orders are to put your tank into a situation it shouldn't be in, regardless of the crews competence.
@@andrewshaw1571 actually it was urban conflict that was the biggest problem with inexperienced crews being a back up to that, the corruption definitely was a problem but the entire crux if the issue was inexperienced crews and also inexperienced generals that were given power just cause they were pro yeltsin or pro putin
and on topic of t80s with diesel enginesit was specifically the t80ud which was small in numbers due to collapse of soviet union and other small factors and most t80ud were left in Ukrainian service and were after the collapse built by Ukrainians and the remaining t80ud in mainland russia were under moscow guard brigade (source zaloga t80 tank)
I joined the Canadian Armed Forces as an Armoured Officer in 2015. I can confirm this tank, as well as the converted T-72 "Terminator," made quite the stir while I was in training. It was amusing to see them perform so poorly, particularly the Terminators because apparently they embezzled all the money meant for the expensive, advanced optics they were suppose to install, so they all rolled into Ukraine completely blind and got terminated.
to all the russia apologists watching this video while seething with anger.
Good luck on the frontline ;)
Assuming that they're even Russian.
The MG3 is the MG42 converted to 7,62 NATO.
RedEffect anihilated this video.
TBF I missed the Russian invasion war of Georgia.
😶🌫️
This is some gigacope here
yeah because ruzzia isnt coping like crazy
Tommy, as an American, the last thing you want is a military culture, that is just a rabbit hole to fascism. You can be super progressive and left wing, and want a powerful military, without wanting a weird cult of personality behind it.
This video humiliated itself
Are you defending the tank? It was cancelled.
@@BenersantheBread It hasn't been cancelled, mass-production was. The tank itself is still being tested and refined so mass production is cheaper. A T-14 was tested in Ukraine in a support role to see what aspects of the tank needed to be improved
@@ninny65 "A T-14 was tested in Ukraine in a support role"
Yeah right, show me a picture of it in Ukraine.
@@BenersantheBreadif we can't see it, it never happened
@@thepioneer1525 Yes. Always assume Russia is lying because they CONSTANTLY do
"China isn't stupid" I'm sure Russian generals thought the same thing about Putin, Then Ukraine happened. First thing to learn about humans is this they are currently imperfect, So expect disappointment. Second when it's an imperfect Human whose established a dictatorship, that over a short period of time has absolutely proven it doesn't care about it's people. But prestige don't expect it, it's GOING TO HAPPEN. 😮💨
Make your own content. Don't just react to a vide by another UA-camr. Your "commentary" added nothing.
you can have your democracy tommy ill stick to my constitutional republic
One of the funniest uploads on UA-cam lazerpigs rocks 😂😂😂😂
2:06 i would agree with that statement slightly, while tanks arent fully support, they are as my dad used to say, naked without infantry, i dont know how to explain what there role, but its not quite support either, but definitely not what the common citizen thinks of you say tank
T-90 CAN reverse, just at a pathetic 3 miles per hour. Also its hard to call any tank "better" than the latest fielded M1A2 Abrams, as its the single most battle tested tank. The new Panther or latest Leo might have some better things to them, but thats only in theory until actual combat with them happens. Basically all semi-modern MBT's can destroy each other, its more about crew training and tactics in combined arms
Also: there are a couple of Abrams X's, but its not in service since it costs so damn much, but unlike Russia, NATO isn't parading them around claiming to have an army of them. The new Panthers look SICK, i wonder how many will be actually build
Kremlin just came out with ananouncment that the T-14 Armata is too expensive for them as of now and that they will stick to T-90 for now. Pretty much saying that it is the best tank almost in production while also saying it is too expensive for them and they have trouble manafacturing withouth western machines.
War Thunder Russian Tank Enjoyers now: STALINIUM!!!! Russian Tanks in real life:
This dude just doesnt stop talking about random shit.
If you had a fictional country with a good gpd maybe a Switzerland model would work, where all civilians are requried to train for 3 months so they have basic knowledge about millitary if the fiction country were to be in war
The trench warfare is back!
yea but not for anyone else XD
42:20 and that’s why Singapore pays their politicians well. They get better quality performers
I wouldn't use Singapore as a standard to look up to. They are authoritarian in a sense of how an over bearing corporation is authoritarian.
Cough red effect lol
in sacramento here in the US a massive russian sector just APPEARED in it within 20 years, it existed before but it was tiny and now its massive lol its crazy.
Sad to see people treating lazerpig like he is knowledgeable on anything at all
so who knows better about it?
@@idkanything7449red effect seems like a much better character because he cites full sources and not just the little snippets that make people like lazerpig sound right whilst forgetting all the context around it
ah yes from Lazerpig the person that said misinformation about the T-14 Armata
that was later on showed in a video called "Lazerpig is wrong about the T-14 Armata"
A video by red effect who is incredible biased towards russian tanks. Which was then rebutted by Lazerpig and Chieftain. But I guess it doesn't matter anymore since Russia has decided to abandon the T14 in favor of the flawed but cheap T90.
@DrIBM You can't tell from how he words things? The way he describes everything you'd think he was moments from ejaculating thinking about the tank.
Your president is a fascist, this war gains you nothing, he's ruining your economy and throwing your people's lives away for PR
@@Beans2817 T-72 Series tank good in some way but i agree T-90 has some flaw back same as other tanks all tank has some flaw back but remember tanks can be upgraded to fix those flaws but as tank but its based on who spot the target first in real combat
@@Beans2817 biased? every other sentence of lazerpig is straight out racism towards russians...
Tommy‘s jumping on the LazerPig train, I‘m not complaning
Armatas burning in Ukraine: 0
Leopards burning in Ukraine: All of them
Also, nothing like sweaty gamer man-children drawing analogies from fantasy books aimed at children.
Armatas which actually work: 0
looks like we don't need them to blow up nato's equipment :3@@idkanything7449
@@grabelli equipment from the 90's. Plus the T14 is being abandoned by the russian military in favor of the t90 which hasn't been doing quite so well in ukraine
The Armata is a totally functional tank that Russia uses I swear bro, don't try to look up any footage of one in combat
@@grabelli You got a couple leopards and one abrams.
Congrats, you're still having to use fucking T-55s
Grisha in trouble.
@TommyKay Germens didnt abandont K Tiger becouse experience. They did it becouse K Tiger was shit. 90% of them run out of full in best case ... in worst theyr transmision just brake becouse was build for 20 tuns lighter vehicle same was with engine.
Yeah, I thought it was so retarded when he said that
Naw, KTs actually had decent availability towards the end of the war compared to Tiger I and _much_ better than the Panther. The problem was they were trying to fight with a tank with a heavy logistical tail in a scenario where their enemy had complete, uncontested air superiority. Even running out of fuel, that's hardly a problem with the tank, it's a country which started out the war needing to capture oil supplies and never succeeded.
@@CruelestChris availability doesnt really matter when the king tiger was shit anyway and I wouldnt call 500 alot
@@daskollektiv4593
Availability isn't the same thing as the number manufactured, it's the percentage of vehicles that are operationally capable at a given time. And the KT was at very least effective in just about every way a tank can be (good armour, an excellent gun with good optics, impressive mobility for its size, etc), it was just arriving at a point when _no_ tank would have made any difference.
@@CruelestChris wdym the king tiger was shit and you could give it to germany at any point and it wouldn't of done anything
Lol kinda funny watching a Lazer pig reaction video
Western leaders are corrupt? Compared to Russia? Oh my god I'm laughing.
i mean you cant blame the citizens of Russia for not speaking out against the war bc they would be imprisoned or executed
How many times have US citizens protested against the 271 wars that the US has unleashed over the past 26 years ?
B***h, really, executed? There were some protests at the beginning of the war and nobody was executed...
@@Biboran. Constantly, loudly, and in huge numbers. Also TF do you mean "271 wars in 26 years" get off the krokadil ivan
@@Biboran. wait are you implying that this doesn't happen? If so that's so dumb and makes no sense.
@@Tom_Cruise_Missile
Every year for 31 years, the US Congress publishes a report on US military actions in 2022, the figure was 271 wars in which the US participated over the past 26 years, while Ukraine is on the 268th place in the list
Smykalka is better translated as the English “having a knack for something”.
17:29 you know kids probably died from that, right? Jesus, I swear people forget way too quickly about the human cost of war. My sincere condolences to anyone, (Russian or Ukrainian) who’ve lost a father, husband, brother, or son in this stupid war. F you Putin
Well maybe they shouldn't be invading another country then
@felipemaran5513 you are genuinely mad if you think it was the 18 year old kids idea to invade Ukaraine
@@Supernova2464 It wasn't but they are participating aren't they? Woe to them
@@b3ygghsasLet me give a example, directly from one of laser pigs videos. There was a sailor who was in the Russian navy and stationed one the Moskava. He only did it to be able to go to college, it’s a prestigious ship, or was. He joined before the war. And we all know how it turned out. It’s also hard to completely leave your country and friends and family behind. Even if you should.
@@natebox4550 Did you think about how many ukrainians died because of moskva? Indirectly because of tht russian sailor too? Like I said, woe to them
I don't think the current Leopard is ready for actual war.
So the Germans used the Russo-Ukraine war as the testing ground.
The main reason is Germany was under the influence of Soviet Russia for far too long.
Many of its leaders were pro-Russian (some even, former Soviet), and kept weakening the military in the name of anti-Nazism and peace.
So the nation invents high-tech to compensate for the weak military.
But unlike the Americans with keep testing their tech to the extreme.
Germany doesn't have a budget to do that after a year of corruption and anti-war sentiment.
Okay so Tom isnt wrong about that you need to use equipment correctly. Why Russian tanks are struggling is like Cheifton says entirely upto tactics. For Russian tanks are ment to advance with motorized infantry who clears villages and have the tanks fire upon anything thougher than a cardboard box. But instead they are went out useally alone which allowes the Ukrainians easy pickings and with how Top heavy the Russian army is little change will happend.
If a tank like the Abrams - which costs roughly 25 Mil $ - is "outdated" because it can get destroyed by a 1/2 mil $ Javelin, then even infantry - training costs roughly 1/4 mil $ per person - is invalid, because everyone can get killed by one shot from an AK, which costs about 50 cents per bullet.
The abrams DOES NOT cost 25 million, what are your sources
Would have been great if Tommy actually bothered to pay attention to more than half of the video and take in all the information that he ended up missing while going on random ass side conversations with his chat
I mean,Russia still didn't win
1) You are 100% right that air power is the most important thing in modern warfare. Without control over the air, most tanks are just moving coffins. That said, if there is a ground war, you need tanks and armored warfare divisions to work with your troops (combined warfare) to be truly effective.
2) The most powerful tank today is the Merkeva IV (Israeli), with an important caveat. It is an absolute monster of a tank, weighing in 10 tons heavier than an Abrams, with most of that being armor and weapons. It can fire anti-tank and anti-air missiles from its turret, has 3 remote machine guns, a remote 50cal, and a remote 60mm grenade launcher, all of which have manual redundancies, and some of them have mounts for drones. Also, its APS is the best in the world, by an embarrassing margin, although it is no longer unique to the Merkeva, as the US and Germany bought the system and installed it on the new Abrams and Leopard II. The caveat when declaring it the most powerful tank today is simply that it is ridiculously heavy, has a medium top speed, and is expensive due to the massive amount of tech crammed into it. This means that it isn't great for offensive actions over large distances due to the high energy costs, and it can't operate in all geographies. It was designed to be a defensive super-heavy tank that could crush anything it faced in the environment it was built for, and it does this perfectly well. This means that a tank like the Abrams may be less powerful than the Merkeva IV in the abstract, but much more effective in real-life in certain situations and environments. Merkeva are specialized to a particular role (defensive operations on the border of a small nation) and environment (Middle East), and so weaker tanks are often a better choice in different contexts. Also, this is why the Abrams, Challenger, and Leopard have all adopted pieces of the Merkeva (eg. the Abrams and Leopard II have the Trophy APS, the Leopard II use barrel-fired Lahat missiles, etc), while keeping their own design that fits their needs.
3) There is no best way to design a military in general. Each nation has its own military requirements, which are HEAVILY dependent on geography. For example, the United States needed to develop a strong Air Force and Navy because geography requires that we develop them so that we have the force projection to reach the rest of the world. Without this, a strong Army would be basically useless, as they would have no way of reaching a battlefield outside our borders. Conversely, eastern Europe needed to develop strong Army and armored militaries because they constantly faced ground invasions from all sides. The only real constant in the modern battlefield is developing a strong Air Force and high quality special forces units to conduct commando operations. These are good in all military models, regardless of your other needs.
That makes a lot of sense. The Merkava is designed to fight off all comers (and Israeli is literally surrounded by people that don't like them) but has the strategic mobility of a boat anchor.
@@dinhnguyen2110 The mobility was improved from mk III to mk IV to make it near the lower end of MBTs, but not horribly slow (the mk IV is around 5km/hr slower than an Abrams or Leopard). The greater issue is that it consumes a ton of energy to reach that speed while also powering the various electrical systems in the tank. It has way more electronics that other tanks. The APS is a massive power draw (it's a combo hard-kill and EW suite), some models have VR setups that let the crew see through the walls of the tank (similar to some Apache helicopters), and it has a powerful cooling system that is made necessary by the unique layout. Unlike every other tank, the engine of the Merkeva is in the front of the tank, so that a direct hit from a penetrator would need to go through not only the frontal armor, but the entire engine block and the wall of the armored crew compartment before it could touch the crew or the ammo compartment. This is great for providing extra protection to the tank crew, and means that it will win a 1:1 hit exchange with any other tank (if they trade direct frontal hits with a penetrator, a Merkeva's engine might be taken out, but an Abrams' crew is going to be dead), but it means that the tank also needs to run a cooling system to prevent the heat of the engine from hurting the crew and vital electronics.
The fact that it burns energy at such a high rate means that it needs to stay near supply lines. This is easy in a defensive war, but the moment you start having to expand outwards to take territory, it's going to get much more expensive and complicated to keep your tanks running optimally. At that point, the enemy doesn't need to target the tanks--they just need to target the supply lines to prevent the tanks from having their fuel/APS interceptors replenished.
The IDF is actually a really interesting outlier case that I wish more militaries would emulate. The fact that everybody serves, including the kids of the politicians and billionaires, and the fact that their population is tiny, means that every soldier's life is given the top priority. This is why their tanks are so excessively powerful and their APCs are made from the prior generation of tanks' hulls/chassis--they won't accept high troop losses and would much rather replace a tank than a skilled tank crew. The sad fact is, for a nation like the US, we have a much easier time replacing tankers than they do, so our military is willing to cut cost corners for volume over quality. If everybody in Congress knew that their kid might one day be sitting in an American tank under fire, I would bet that our design priorities would dramatically shift to that of the Merkeva line. Russia is on the extreme end of this spectrum, giving their troops nothing and sending them in waves that most will not return from.
@@theprogressivecynic2407 I was just rephrasing/simplifying your take. That is why I said "strategic mobility". You yourself alluded to it. How easy it is to take a unit of Merkavas between various theatres.
I'd bet you'd love TIKHistory videos, his videos on Germany, Fascism, Marxism, Nazism etc are absolutely amazing. He did a video on why Hitler didn't trust his generals? for example. He likes to crap on just about all collectivist ideologies so I bet you'd love him.
but he falsely claims that Hitler was socialist, though other than that it is quite a good channel.
@@pal-vx2mn He doesn't falsely claim. The amount of evidence he presents is overwhelming. He uses primary sources, that many socialist would support. He just don't take contradictions as "Truth" like when Tooze says Party owned Organizations are Private... which is clearly a false statement. Tooze's famous quote on that subject is often used by Socialist despite that quote having an OBVIOUS contradiction within it, being the Party was the "State" so if they're organizations controlled by the Party then they are the state. So transferring assets to Party Affiliated Organizations wasn't Privatization but a Dismantling of the old state, into the new State which was the Nazi State. Yet Denialist are so far up their ass they don't seem to grasp something as simple as a Single Party Dictatorship isn't a PRIVATE organization.
I mean I literally just ran into another one of his critics who said Democracy is REQUIRED for Socialism. But when I brought up every Red Bannered Regime in history "Wasn't Democratic" and almost all historians agree they were Socialist he claimed they were State Capitalist. I've never once in my life seen someone so stupid to think the USSR was State Capitalism. But then again Socialist still can not decide whether China is State Capitalist or Market Socialist, which heavily implies that State Capitalism and Market Socialism are so similar that the only REAL functional difference is which regime do Socialist like?
I'm also glad more people seem to be coming to a similar conclusion. Another channel ShortFatOtaku hints at it quite a lot. His most recent video he even showed "Fascism" as a branch of Marxism. Which is true, being Marxist Syndicalism branched into National Syndicalism which in turn became Fascist Syndicalism, which was in turn renamed Fascist Corporatism. Being most Fascist were originally either members of the Italian Syndicalist League, or the Italian Socialist Party prior to the 1920s, Marxism's influence on Fascism itself is literally undeniable. Basically instead of being a Reactionary movement it's literally just another Branch of Marxism similar to Leninism and like the Leninist the Fascist were just as hostile towards revival socialist groups.
The Foundation for Economic Education has hinted at it a lot as well but like many history tube channels avoid the subject like the plague for Flak Reasons, even though you can tell those working on their videos support it. FEE accidentally gave away that they view the Nazis as Socialist in one of their videos when they accidentally put a picture of Hitler and the Nazis when speaking about East Germany, and replied to a comment complementing them on that mistake, saying they made the mistake but agree with the message and boy did the FLAK roll in fast the moment they did so. FEE a Centrist Liberal channel. So is ShortFatOtaku and TIKhistory btw.
It's ironic that Liberal channels are presenting it this way. Not Leftist, and not Rightist. In fact TIK recently rejected the very concept of Right/Left Wing as a political spectrum. Something most of these Liberal channels seem to agree on, none of them want to be associated with either the left or the right. Yet of course get flak from all sides for doing so, or as TIK put it "once you top shilling for one side or the other, large parts of history start to make sense." Which is the problem most people have. Being a centrist, or moderate Liberal is literally a minority position. So most people are extremely bias to a point of denialism. This is how you end up with scenarios like Toozes when he considers Organizations Controlled by the Nazi Party as Private. Because it relies on denialism for someone to make such a stupid statement.
@@pal-vx2mn more like version of socialist though that video is shaky but his other video's are quiet good my favourite is one on fuel problems of Germany
TIK is a objectivist, the most extreme and braindead version of libertarianism,
@@Snp2024 I agree!
Russia is where Russia is because they wrote their own history books.