How to Forge a [San Mai] Chef’s Knife- Your Edge
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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In this Special Edition of Your Edge Ilya Alekseyev shows you how to for a Japanese kitchen knife using the San Mai construction. He goes into great detail in every step of the process. The body of the knife is made from wrought iron and the edge is W-2 on the first one and damascus on the the other knives. You see Ilya doesn't just make one demo knife. Instead he makes 3 knives to show different options that you can do with this style of forging. Ilya uses all hand tools to forge these knives and a charcoal forge. The reason behind this is to show you that you can do it without fancy power hammers and expensive forges. All you need is fire and a hammer and San Mai can be done.
Many Techniques are covered in this Your Edge video. Ilya Alekseyev is a Forged in Fire champion and brings years of experience to you for free. Think of this as a online master class totally free of charge. He shows how to forge the wrought iron and hot cut it for the insert. Then shows how to forge weld the pieces together using a striker and explaining how you could forge weld it yourself. He then shows how to forge out the blade properly and how to use hand files and scrapers to forge the geometry after forging. Ilya then heat treats the knife using a then coat of clay and quenching into water. All of the blade finishing is shown and explained. Everything from making the wood handles to etching and polishing. Sit back and learn how to make a San Mai kitchen knife the Slavic way !
After the forging is complete sit back and enjoy a slavic cooking show with Ilya as he shows you how to put the knife to use while preparing on of his favorite dishes, grilled mackerel. Learn how to make a knife and how to cook fish on a grill all in one video !
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That Works fantastic video! 🤓 I especially love the cooking lesson at the end. 😍😍😍
ruste shackleferd thank you!
Hell yea sponsorships!
Nice video
Would be awesome watching you tackle, ghost of tsushima, Jin Sakai's katana
fun fact: when ilya cuts onions, the onions cry
You win. I’m not sure what you win, but you def won!
I would cry if someone was cutting me. I get it onions. I get it.
It’s because his knives are made correctly.
Ilya makes a knife so good Chuck Norris runs and hides
no when Ilya cuts onions, Chuck Norris cries
This channel is so underrated.
Yan Uehara agreed :-)
What happens is that they use techniques that others do not know or do not try to reproduce because they are extremely laborious and detailed
I agree Ilya alone deserves way more too many keep secrets of the trade and those techniques take a chance of that knowledge dying with them. Thank you Ilya for what you do for the trade. O and Matt too lol
Agreed
@@jorgegonzalez-pv8mv that is ridiculous
"usually you can trick one of your friends to help you out as a striker on this or that weekend
but if you don't have friends..."
Offer to grill fish like that, and you'll have all the strikers you need.
Can we get a tour of the shop? I hear birds throughout the video and I'm interested to see the shop, if you're interested that is. Amazing video as always and keep pushing forward
Also can we get a video about making your charcoal
Steve Grillot That could be fun
We will! I promise. Still feels like we are getting set up here with all the new additions
@@ThatWorks awesome, been thinking about trying charcoal but still in the thinking part due to sheer amount of charcoal needes
@@ThatWorks Where can i buy a guy with a sledgehammer and are they cheaper than a power hammer?
Ilya is such a cool craftsman. I love the fact he doesn't have an ego or anything to go with it. He's just straight facts and competence. He's a student who never stops learning and contemplating what he does. I know he wouldn't say he's a master smith, but, to me, his constant striving to do better is the very embodiment of what a master smith should be.
This is so well-written I can't agree more.
You don’t understand. The knife is a complete disaster. There is wrought iron in the edge and it is way over-forged.
No ego? - of course he has one. And clearly it is huge. He knows he is good and wants to be “different”. But he understands virtue ethics and wants to be virtuos - so he keeps his ego in check, by practicing virtue ethics, thus cultivating a character of virtue. E.g. balancing pride w. humility.
@@bill4639 if you would have payed any amount of attention then you would've seen that there is not any in the edge, (the whole reason for making a 'san mai' constructed knife) and if i'm not mistaken you cant "over forge" a piece unless you've gone and melted it.
"...is that salt or borax Ilya?!"
Ilya: yes.
aTastyKiwi indeed
timecode!
Flux works on fish too I heard
I do love my weapons being forged...but somehow this is more interesting. Sure, the process of making a crazy fantasy weapon is entertaining to watch, but a simple knife is a wow moment for me. I dont know why. I guess seeing something so practical being made and then used. From a piece of metal into a useful tool. Loved the video. Thank you.
I have wanted to take up smithing for years now, originally I was thinking "I could make a sword, or spears, or..." now I just want to be able to make an elegant, high functioning, utilitarian knife that once someone has will last their lifetime. And repeat that when asked
11:10 (off camera). “What am I doing” LOL. Bro I feel u
A video about sharpening knives (and other edgy tools) with stone (water, oil, different edge geometry, basics and such) would be a good thing.
This will even benefit all the viewers, who cant forge at home, but want to take care of their blades ;)
I sharpen all my knives by hand and yes it takes time (good meditation), but the moment you get a mirror like finish and shaving sharpness ...
- pure bliss!
This.
Seconded!
He makes knives, cleans fish with them, and grills them?
I'm straight and even I find that sexy.
Mrs. Ilya is one amazingly lucky woman.
You're definitely gay
I kinda agree. Maybe it’s his way of doing things: if it ani’t worth doing right it ain’t worth doing. He’s come a long way from the first man at arms, in the back
I hate my brain because when I read 'Mrs. Illya' my brain conjured up the image of just Illya in a dress
I didn't realise how much I'd appreciate the culinary 'cut test' definitely more appropriate than hacking at some water jugs.
The best video I1ve ever seen!!! Good job Ilya, execelent, this video motivaded me a make one of this, thanks! Brazil here.
Filipe Jovetta you are welcome and thank you for the comment
Я человек простой. Вижу Илью - ставлю лайк!
Ну тут и кроме самого Ильи есть много чего интересного, чтобы посмотреть
Absolutely love the style where you have no music, just the raw sound and explenations every now and then
Watching a english-speaking maker channel using metric system
I'm a fairly proud 'merican and all, but I only use metric for my leather crafting measurements: easier to remember whole numbers and mm provides a very small margin of error.
It’s always informative to see how you forge different steel in different ways
Robert Stoker so very true. Every material is different and needs to be forged differently
@@ThatWorks Would you use a old file as a high carbon insert and wrap it inside of a car leaf spring?Would that work?
What common items i could use for that?(due this corona outbreak i cant exactly order steel )Or maybe ball bearing race as a high carbon insert?
Please share your wisdom with me !!!
Awesome video. I want to get into blacksmithing / bladesmithing badly.
I'm medically retired from the Marine Corps, I still have medical operations I have go though before I'm fit enough to do anything beyond lay in bed, these are great to watch to fill time.
Arkon Jon thank you and good luck on recovering !
Get well soon man, good luck!
get well soon
Thank you for your service! Wish you a quick, complete recovery.
@31:30 "Make sure to wipe the excess on your clothing." I've got that part down to a science.
"Make sure to wipe the excess epoxy on your clothing." 😂😂😂🤣
I also use this technique!
I’d love to learn more about your scraper - what steel, hardness, edge profile? Seems a really neat way of flattening blades without burning through a mound of abrasive paper.
Those knives are beautiful! I bought a Yaginaba on Kappabara in Tokyo, and I use it whenever I need to cut fish. It's wicked sharp, and the edge lasts a ridiculously long time. San Mai knives take a bit of know-how to maintain. Once you own one, however, you'll never need another knife.
james yamamoto I couldn’t agree more
Илья честно,усы тебе не идут без бороды....не перестаю восхищаться твоим мастерством,ты реально Кузнец 99 уровня!!!!! с уважением из Краснодара
Oh, also, recipe for the fish please! (I'm serious btw)
I want Ilya to make a cooking channel spin off of this. 😄😄😄
I love the "Your edge", I'm not a blacksmith but getting a look at such a skilled blacksmith while providing interesting historical/technical information is just really entertaining
Ilya is one of the only smiths I know who can claim other craftsmen lazy or bad, and do so rightfully. AND is also brave enough to do so on the internet. Mad respect to you sir.
That Shinsengumi shirt that Ilya wears during his cooking
Perfection
Spectacular presentation! I am an old man with out the energy you possess; however, I have the heart to admire your excellent craftsmanship! 🤠
Better blacksmithing skills than onion cutting LoL
Илья, хоть титры на русском делайте. Не все знают инглиш. Про своих не забывай.
"But, if you don't have friends..." How does he know about my personal life?
There’s a lot of clay deposit near the lake by my house. I think it’s like limestone...if there is such a thing as limestone clay..would that be good to use as a hamon or how you applied the clay in this video?
That Works: *Seen*
A hamon?
Gotta love how Ilya just casually calls out 90% for modern bladesmiths :D
I've been hesitant to do san mai because I was unsure. I think that I may have to give it a shot after recovery from shoulder surgery. Ilya is a heck of a smith.
Love watching the knife build. However, I do not appreciate how hungry you made me with the fish at the end.
Cameron Carson I know I know
next video: they forge a BBQ that would be WORTHY of that fish meal.
(inserts into the suggestion box)
Im so happy I found this channel. I always watched Ilya's episodes on man at arms reforged and was sad it skimmed over all the technical stuff (which is normal, it fit the format better). So I'm really happy I found this channel where it's nothing but technical stuff. This is like finding the lore wiki of your favorite RPG. Ggs boys
At the beginning of that intro I thought my boys got a skillshare sponsorship
edit: they actually did!
i finished all my knives on whetstones for over a year before i decided to buy a belt grinder. i can say that the whetstones made learning the beltgrinder so easy. i knew exactly what to do before i even stepped up to the machine. i didnt realize it at the time, but learning things by hand before you buy the machine makes you a much better craftsman.
Damn damn damn.. just came across this video and went to buy one of these beauties and I guess they all sold out fast.
"If you don't have friends, you can use a hot cut hardy tool"
Time to get to making some tools then
YES YES YES YES YES. this is one of the resons I love watching you guys. highly entertaining and an education at the same time
The pattern in the cladding really makes these knives beautiful. Amazing video as always.
Will you make a video on how to use "stones" instead of "acid etch" to display the patterns?
I have the same though in my mind, I love traditional craftmanship, I do woodwork, i think thats the word but ive been getting smithing tools, I want to lern blacksmithing to mix it with the woodwork
What is something Ilya can’t do... like I’m actually astounded by the amount of skills one man has
You're an artist man. I love watching you work
Thank you for this video, very informative. You guys are the best! I only have a propane forge, an anvil, and a bunch of hammers. But this shows I have enough. Looking forward to trying out san-mai some day.
Because of this channel and how straight forward you all are I have been able to get my confidence back to work out in my shop. Listening to all the Your Edge videos has helped greatly. Such great care is done with these videos, Thank you for what you are doing.
FirestarBloodstones that is excellent ! Thank you for your support !
Илья ваши пальцы вообще чувствуют жар?)))) иммунитет походу к температуре)))
Ilya does such a great job of demonstrating the methodology and explaining the relevant history/tradition behind these impressive builds. Very insightful even for those of us who aren’t blacksmiths.
This is brilliant.
Blades AND the cooking.
Mad skilz.
I'd like to see what is required to make a thin, springy blade like a filleting knife.
Question: What are the advantages of a dog's head hammer as opposed to the old stand bys? And, if there are ny disadvantages to the dog's head hammers, what are they?
Thanks, Ilya!!
По краям кузнечного зубила наточи лезвия, тогда зубило будет просекать, а не рвать края разруба.
You know, anybody can get on UA-cam and describe HOW to actually forge a knife, but one of the things I most appreciate about Ilya's videos is when he gets into WHY you do things a certain way, and most of all, when he gets into the philosophy behind it.
The philosophy behind work in almost any eastern culture is not only fascinating, but often truly motivating, and the Japanese culture has some of the best and most enlightening philosophy about work, especially in fields like carpentry and apparently forging too. That's something we have a severe lack of in the west and it's a crying shame. I really do believe that our lack of any kind of meaningful metaphysical philosophy (I'm not talking at all about religion,) is why western culture is so rabidly egotistical and myopic.
There's something oddly satisfying about watching someone forge a blade and prepare a meal with it after
Looks like Ilya can also do some cooking videos for that works as well .
listening to ilya talk about steel structure whilst pumping bellows as vaguely eastern sounding music plays in the backround is my version of zen meditation.
Ilya, you sir, are a natural born teacher.. Amazing job as allways!
props to the person who edits and color corrects these videos, beautiful and criminally under praised work!
Kitchen knives are surprisingly my new favorite thing to make. It's a different and tricky thing to get right compared to utility or EDC knives which are more open-ended to me.
Just commenting for the algorithm to pick up a little bit.
Ilya doesn't cook, he forges food.
кто от крастера
I do love my weapons being forged...but somehow this is more interesting. Sure, the process of making a crazy fantasy weapon is entertaining to watch, but a simple knife is a wow moment for me. I dont know why. I guess seeing something so practical being made and then used. From a piece of metal into a useful tool. Loved the video. Thank you.
First thing, I love the more silent sound editing, just the sounds of the hammer and forge.
Second, just beautiful work, so much more real and grounded, no material wasting, no excess of tools and superb forging inspiration
The ad in this video literally has a guy using tig welding and power hammer to make damascus
8:25 "but if you dont have friends" LOL this man gets it!
Ilya, you are an absolute master! I learned more in this 39 minute video than I've learned in 100 hours of others' videos!
I had never even heard of scraping a blade to remove the humps, bumps and hammer marks!
I love how you give us the background on everything and the reasons that things have been done this way or that for Centuries!
BTW, I really like your choice of music as it is calming and very enjoyable to listen to!
Can u guys make Keris blade?
It's originally from Indonesia, Javanesse culture. I would like to see Ilya's skill in making a blade that look like a snake.
Fan from Indonesia🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
Are you looking for something in particular in the steel to show you where the high carbon steel is, or are you just estimating?
Many moons ago, as an apprentice, we had to make our own scrapers.
These were used in fitting bearings onto shafts etc.
That was the first time I came across heat treatment.
Yet another part of the game gone...hand power tools do the job now.
Great work Ilya...thanks
Thank you for this video. I thought I knew a lot but still I learned so much. I'm going to leave the welder on the shelf from now on.
Ah, i see, a Gintama shirt during the cooking portion, you sir are a man of culture indeed. :) Great job on this one!
As a professional chef I would love to afford to treat myself to one of these knives
Ilya seems like such an all-around great guy!
How am I just seeing this!? I’ve made San mai before but the series has me stoked! Ilyas engraving episodes were hugely beneficial!!!
Not only do you show the process, but you also give explanations for various parts of the process.
Most importantly, you never forget to have some fun with it.
Another great video.
I think I learned more about san-mai forging techniques in this one video that in the last 2 years of watching other smiths tutorials. Blown away!
Может уже кто и писал подобное, но, когда я смотрю подобные видео на этом канале, у меня в голове крутятся строчки:
"А Илья кует
Аж душа поет!
Дни и ночи напролет
Все кует Илья.
Им любуюсь я.
Работящий мужик Илья!" (с) Ю.Лоза
А большинство рускоязычной аудитории не понимает о чем он половину видео говорит, лучше молча делать.
The comments on the craftsmanship and philosophy behind it were so awesome. Not to mention the great walkthrough of making it
Блин Илья ну реально смотреть за твоей работой очень интересно, но сделай ты субтитры к видео а то больше половины не понятно))))
I would love to learn more about making armor and the different ways to do it
"Make sure to wipe the excess epoxy on your clothing."
My wife would give you the meanest look for encouraging my bad habits. :P
This is so good I've already watched it twice. And I'll have to keep studying it, there so much in there to learn!
And this is just one video...!
Not that I don't always love your vids but I wanna see a more candid style of video particularly around Ilya's hammer, its always in focus in the shots you guys do but I don't think its ever been talked about.
I didn't think I'd enjoy watching Ilya cooking as much as I do watching him forge, but here we are...
I know I'm late to the conversation, but I didn't expect a Binging with Babish mini episode at the end of a That Works video. I love it!
Watching a Blacksmith cook with the Knife he just forged is a special experience... more please
Я не надеюсь что это комментарий увидят, но все таки напишу. Уважаемый Илья, не могли бы вы добавлять русские субтитры, а то смотреть невероятно интересно, но практически ничего не понятно.
Beautiful. Ever considered making a zweihander?
What's the name of the scraper tool you used? Could you include a 'how to' for its use in one of your Your Edge videos please?
просто шикарные ножи Илья!! твое мастерство вызывает восхищение!
"But, if you don't have friends..." - Some Russian Blacksmith
Подавился-таки слюной к концу..
Илья, сделайте пожалуйста русские субтитры, так как видео очень интересное, но знаний английского не хватает.)
18:54 why yes! I too saw the sparkly! (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
A Gintama shirt. I knew that Ilya was a man of taste and distinction.
This excellent. Thanks for sharing. Love the scraper- can you tell us more about the steel that is made from? I am keen to make one of these as well as your fuller scraper from other episodes.
Bill McConnell perhaps we will do that soon on another Your Edge
You guys are amazing. Keep em coming!
I absolutely love wrought iron.. with the exception that it's very dirty in a propane forge. I work out of a single car garage in the city so I can't really get away with a built in place forge. Maybe someday.. An excellent video! Thank you!