How to Forge Bevels on a Blade - The Right Way !
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2019
- In this video Ilya shows you the ins and outs of forging bevels on a blade. Using a tamahagane blade made from traditional bloom from Japan as his demo piece he gives you a step by step of how to forge a blade. Everything from how to swing the hammer to proper anvil stance for bladesmiths and blacksmiths alike. He makes a Japanese style blade, but this technique is good across all cultures of blades.
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Thanks for watching this episode of -Your Edge- and thanks to Ilya Alekseyev for sharing this awesome knowledge with us. Be sure to leave a comment telling us what topic you want us to cover on the next episode !
I have an idea for next or one of the future episodes. I would love to watch video of You guys talk about steel, i mean which steel is good for knives, which is good for swords, tools, axes etc.with pointing the properities of those steels, and maybe temperatures. It doesnt need to be full AAA grade episode with fountains and fireworks, simple vlog would be just right for this. Thanks for all those lessons and knowledge and experience You share with us :)
Anthracite nut coal vs charcoal vs blacksmithing coal vs wood vs propane for heating metal would make good video
I wish i have infinitys likes buttons for this video. Please, make more of those.
I want to learn how to have a razor sharp edge with natural waterstone
Why the water on anvil before forging?
The demonstration with the wood was mind blowing, absolute game changer for me. Holy cow thank you so much for making such quality content. I am binge watching your channel now to see what else I'm missing
Thanks for the Vid.... finally someone else that does what my Granddad did. He also had a small wedge set on a stump rest near the Anvil, he'd use to start different project types with different angles.
I remember him saying "start the hammer and the hand will follow". sure enough your work hold hand follows in line pretty quickly. he used to say drawing it out lightens the edge and leaves less material for filing, that fine for finer work its not much good for blades.
he also used to say "work it only as much as your eye sees" usually he'd follow with " see it right at the start, in the end you'll see it please the heart" . He was so skilled.
I'm super thankful to all the UA-cam creators that lend their knowledge of blacksmithing and knife making. It's how I learned to make demascus knives!
I really appreciate that you are so good at explaining and demonstrating PROPER techniques.
I learned more in this one video than all of the other videos I've watched combined.
Ilya slays myths and provides techniques for staying in the game. what a great show, and an amazing teacher! cheers guys!
Ilya is such a wizard with smithing.
Personally, I'm very interested in metal engraving, and would love to learn how to do it traditionally, by hand. But the only tools I can find are Dremmel-like mechanical engravers. Traditionally, craftsmen would make their own, so would be cool to see a video on Ilia and his engraving tools, and maybe how to make them.😉
Michael Berthelsen they did a video about engraving
@@paul-emilefrancois3731 I know, I was hoping on a more detailed video on how to make the tools. I can't find anything locally, and online it's almost impossible to find the tools, since they're crowded out by Dremmel clones. So a video on how to make your own would be cool.
this. after talking to some more experienced engravers it turned out that there's really only one place in north America that teaches metal engraving, and apparently alot the people who come out of that academy are extremely insular and don't like sharing those skills, so there aren't a lot of easy to find resources out there. a video dedicated to the shape/geometry of different gravers would be great.
@@julianitama468 Ilya did a quick show of his engravers previously here, you may have to search but I think it is in his video to his Bladeshow sword where he is engraving
@@Sebastian-ed5kt I know, I've seen it. it was a good display of technique, but other than briefly saying (paraphrase) "I made these; this one does this, that one does that. blyat." he didn't go into the materials/construction/geometry of a good graver. Just from talking to engravers after the fact, its obvious to me that a lot of information was left out on that end.
Thank you guys so much for teaching the technique! And I would love to see an in depth of making bloom steel and refining it.
Veteran Iron&Wood check out Al Pendray and Ric Furrors.
Swinging a hammer is all about creating that moment of inertia where you want whatever you're hitting to move, be it steel, a nail, or whatever you're hitting. It's nice to see someone demonstrate that clearly love your style Ilya
19:37 "Let's go to the *chalkboard* and take a look" made the next cut so hillarious.
Another great video. I watch these mainly to learn and sadly a lot of other channels have moved into a more entertainment driven style, ones which formerly focused on learning and teaching. These are still very entertaining, but its nice to have a channel that helps drive the community forward in such an active way.
'cough' Alec Steele? 'cough' 'cough'...
Ian Lowe I’d say he used to teach a lot in his videos but not nearly as much lately.
@@ThatWorks He's the only one I could think of off the top of my head who now does significantly less 'educational' material. I was familiar with Brian's work before Alec popularised it but Alec has always been more prolific on the media side of things. Fair play to him, he's making a living. You lads have gone the opposite way though it seems and deserve much credit for doing so as far as I'm concerned. All about the edamucation :)
I honestly think that Illya is gifted at teaching while Alec is not. While Alec can and has taught, the ability seems more of a trained thing while Illya makes it seem natural. This has been a big difference for me and I have learned more within the vastly less content. If I had the means I would definately take a class taught by Illya.
@@ronaldmarsh7025 Alec is 23 yo, so maybe we can grant him some time to become a master for others, when in the time being he's already an inspiration for everyone.
The protagonist of a book I'm writing is an apprentice to a master blacksmith, so the tools and techniques you're describing and demonstrating in this series and on this channel in general are a great resource for my work.
Derek Floyd what’s the book called would love to give it a read?
Better give a character a name that honors the Master....😜
How’s the book coming?
Thank you for producing in dept content! Thank you so much!
Forging that wood - brilliant way of showing your point!
I learned some new stuff here!
In your description of holding your hammer makes me think as a drummer of how we hold our drumm sticks. We pinch them with our first 2 fingers and thumb and use our other 2 and pamb as bump guides
another thing I've heard is, just like a drumstick, to not death grip the hammer and to let it bounce
@@BrokenWar46 very true
Yes, that's more or less true of holding everything from drumsticks to hammers to knives to even baseball bats. The "death grip" thing *will* injure your joints sooner or later, and those kind of injuries never really heal up right. People think they have to force the thing; but it's really more about just guiding it smoothly.
As someone who had to change my hammering technique because of tennis elbow , I can't tell you how much you're right about relaxing the arm. Took a solid six months to recover because I was constantly re injuring it till I changed how tense my arm was . I suppose I was just trying to use more power in my swing , but it really isn't necessary and quite detrimental . All good now and teaching roughly 90 students a year for the last 6 years. The basics are really so important.
Damn no joke this guy explains so much better than any teacher I have every seen.
I've watched countless blade forging videos and I have to say, this video was more useful to me than all the others combined.
Thank you.
In my experience, there are very few people out there that teach how to properly use a hammer. As a result, I developed bad habits that are threatening to take me out of the forge. Thanks for the explanation! I am working to correct my posture and swing. Hopefully when I have the money, you will have more hammers in stock. I WANT ONE!
As a physiotherapist I would advise you to get medical help early, the more you delay chronic problems the worse they become and early beginning of treatment can prevent problems spiraling out of control.
@@gushlergushler Yeah, I've seen an Orthopedic specialist. I have rehab exercises that I have to do. If things don't get bwtter, I'll be seeing him again soon.
@@ericcartrette6118 Good luck!
FWIW, I would like to offer another opinion from being a farrier/blacksmith for 37 years. I've found that if I keep my shoulder, elbow and wrist in the same plane I have fewer soft tissue issues. When I move my elbow away from my body to the side i get a compound arc that gives me tennis elbow, yet I could still hammer with my elbow in. I also set my anvil at a height I can stand upright and move easily around as I use the edge, horn and face for different effect... but then, I'm no knife maker, either.
THANK YOU: Now I understand why the first blade I tried forging came out looking like an odd fishing knife. If you could cover distal tapers, that would be beyond helpful.
Same. Proper distal tapers look so good but for the life of me I just cannot lol
I have no aspirations to be a blade smith, Ilya, but your videos are very interesting and instructive - good work.
This is awesome, I really appreciate a master of his trade passing his knowledge and skills on to amateur such as myself. The posture part has really made a big difference for me. Thank you so much for your time.
Valuable information for sure. Proper technique is the key to longevity. I sure see a lot of crazy hammer styles out there in forge land. And the bending over thing...hoo boy. I'm goin' on thirty years of full time work in the shop now, and the only thing that makes my arm sore is working cold iron. Great vid.
That initial explanation and demonstration was great. And confirmed what I have suspected for a long time. Absolutely love your videos.
Some people ar nature instructors An Ilya you are one of the best.
As always, it’s great to see you guys are still going.
Great lesson Ilya! I have learned a lot that you!
Thank you Ilya for the enlightment.
Ilya you are a forging scientist !!!
Great instructional on fundamentals ! Thanks !
Very good and knowledgeable about Blacksmithing. But where you really excelled is your teaching skills. Thank you very much.
I love these guys you do such great work
Excellent teacher .thanks
Thanks for another video guys!
This video is the equivalent of one of those skill books in video games. I got a level up just from watching.
Absolutely invaluable advice, thanks Ilya!!!
I started forging a month ago and I had some trouble forging my bevels. Thanks for your job guys !
I'm so glad I stumbled onto this video. It's unfortunate how in the current age of UA-cam, content creators that can drown the subscription feed come out on top, and I hadn't seen this video until 2 years later.
I'm noticing that the idea of whipping your tool into materials is likely a universal impact tool technique, whether using a hammer, an axe, or even a baseball bat.
Thanks again!
Hi guys! Thanks for the awesome vid! And thank you Ilya! I always learn so much from you guys! Please please please keep them coming!
You are a great teacher.
The best tutorial made ever.
One of the best videos on forging!~ thank alots
Thank you! Awesome video. Explains "Edge Packing" in a way I've never seen before.
fantastic pointers
A great video! That make a lot of sense. Thank you!
One of the best videos (if not the best) on forging technique that i've watched so far. Thank you for sharing this information
This was very informative. Thanks, Ilya.
This is exactly what I wanted to learn! Thank you brother!
There is so much useful information here for a beginner like me. Thank you so much!
A true Master !!!!
Thanks for the tips, tried them today, worked great!
Excellent. I’ve been following the advice and this expanded version is very helpful. Thank you!!
This was so helpful and informative! Thanks for all this freely given knowledge. You guys are great!
Very informative episode, Ilya you a master of the craft and I thank you.
Your videos are amazing and very helpful! Thank you kind sir!
really good info love this series of tutorials thanks
Thanks Ilya your letting the tool do the job not forcing your body to get it done . Thanks for sharing this information
This one and the bone carving videos were my absolut favourites on this channel.
I really like the new concept you guys are trying out.
Awesome man. I'm self taught in forging and knife making. This is just the direction I need. Thank you
Excellent, finally good explanations on how and why properly use a Hammer.
This is some fantastic information right here
Awesome informative video! Thanks man
so much learned from one video, thanks!
Thank you so much for this video! I have watched tons of videos on forging blades and what I just learned from watching it was so very helpful. Thank you, Ilya for taking the time and doing this.
Thank you Ilya, I will be trying this the next time I forge a knife
Makes his anvil bleed at 11:16 😝🔨
Really appreciate the explanations and demonstrations. Thank you for these types of videos.👍
Awesome video guys! Thanks
I really appreciate you're instruction...makes perfect sense...thanks
I would love to have a very rich understanding of a craft. This is a great one.
This is one of the best instructional videos I have ever seen, the demonstration was very helpful in explaining the physics at play. Thank you for putting so much attention to detail into this video 🙏
Very valuable information. Thank you for sharing. The correct art of blacksmithing can only live on if people like you keep on sharing information like this.
This is the best blacksmith video I have seen by far, you explained clearly and simply. The camera shots and angles were up close and can see everything, thank you Ilya your instruction is the best I have seen.
Amazing video! Thank u guys so much for making these videos! Keep them coming👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽✊🏽
Excellent video!! Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thanks for sharing
Love this kind of content. Especially the posture and way of taking care on using a proper form to preserve your health.
man, that was some excellent explainations
Thanks for an amazing tutorial! I'll definitely be using these techniques to adjust my beveling
THANKS, Illya! I learned a LOT!
This is an awesome video I look forward to learning more blacksmithing techniques from you
Ilya’s shirt had the capacity to show the work of the back and shoulders in the proper swing. To do this you would cut in a reverse view of him hammering front lit exactly like forward view in the rest of the shot.
Very informative. I like the way you explain things. Thank you so much for being on UA-cam you are awesome Kelly Forge.
GREAT video! Please make more 🥺
Awesome technique/beveling video. I really appreciate the time you take to show all of us Ilya and Matt!!!🤘🏼🔥🤘🏼🔥
That is really impressive Thank you so much for doing this series I am new to blade smithing but I've been interested in it my whole life I look forward to watching all of your videos
This is excellent. When I was forging my first double bevel dagger, I was chasing the snake and was constantly looking out for the trapezoidal cross section. It was a handful.
Love that analogy ... chasing the snake. 😃
I have often wondered, half-jokingly, if maybe that's how the kris design was invented... perhaps a bladesmith was having trouble with all that and just decided, "Fine, screw it, this dagger is going to be curvy." :p
@Dogslobber gardens lol 😂
Great video, thanks guys!
Thank you very much for teaching me this technique! It answered all of my questions: best fuel, making a blade properly, and efficient hammer form.
Glad I found your channel.
I'm a friend of Fabrice Cognot and he kept telling about you . I watched several old Men at Arms Reformed and learned tons from you already.
Just subscribed here so I can even better detailed classes.
Thanks for sharing Ilya !!
Thank you so much , your explanation was very helpful and your methodical easy to understand teaching style is appreciated !
Thank you very much this helped a lot.
Great job helping people
Way to serve
thanks for the video, it was very good!
Awesome stuff!
I love this stuff about the right techniques. It's like an apprenticeship with a blacksmith.
Thanks for shering Ilya. I'm a big fan.
Loved this!
I have been watching for awhile and this is is very helpful because I have been trying to get into forging and you are teaching me the right way thank you
Baltimore knife and sword has greatly improved my metalworking in so many ways! Thanks for the awesome videos and please keep it up
Thank you.
Good video