Camouflage Isn't What It Appears To Be

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024

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  • @MickeyHarp
    @MickeyHarp 24 дні тому +993

    As a red-green colourblind guy, I’ve found I can see through camouflage much easier than others.
    Genetic mistake or evolutionary advantage?
    As I understand it, I automatically ignore colours and focus on looking for edges/shapes. This was apparently utilised during WW2 Allied bombing runs as colourblind folk could pick out camouflaged targets. I just use it to find ghillie campers/snipers in video games.

    • @ooqui
      @ooqui 24 дні тому +154

      It's a small advantage coming with the big disadvantage of not being able to differentiate colors well. Also, this is a trained advantage that normal trichromats can learn, too.

    • @kevinsyd2012
      @kevinsyd2012 24 дні тому +32

      I'm red/green colour blind and I can often see through camouflage and spot people easily. I don't know how I see them when others can't as I've never had normal colour vision.

    • @MickeyHarp
      @MickeyHarp 24 дні тому +98

      @@kevinsyd2012 also born this way and first noticed the difference from normies when watching my missus playing call of duty.
      She was taking cover behind a bush and I ask why she isn’t shooting the sniper beside her. Who? Where? I said, the guy in the ghillie clearly in the bush! She doesn’t see or believe me so I say to just shoot the fupping bush.
      Low and behold she gets a kill but swears blind she couldn’t make out a player. I was completely dumbfounded but then read that our brains compensate for lack of colour differentiation by focusing on shapes.
      Like she could quickly find a green pear in a large display of red apples. However she would struggle to find the pear if the apples were all a similar green. Whereas in both examples I would be looking for the pear shape and find it in much the same time.

    • @MickeyHarp
      @MickeyHarp 24 дні тому +45

      @@ooqui I also find I have an advantage in lower light conditions because I naturally look for outlines of shapes.
      It also has the massive benefit of not needing to be included in my missus’ decorating discussions/decisions as colours mean little to me.
      Do you like this white or this light grey? Yes!!

    • @georgehugh3455
      @georgehugh3455 24 дні тому +7

      Best of luck to you hunting down those tigers then!

  • @tradward
    @tradward 24 дні тому +982

    I've always wondered why camouflage is spelled camouflage and not .

    • @besmart
      @besmart  24 дні тому +197

      NICE.

    • @samrowe2889
      @samrowe2889 24 дні тому +13

      What 🤔😐 what is the rest of the sentence

    • @d.SAiNi.
      @d.SAiNi. 23 дні тому +68

      @@samrowe2889 He camouflaged 'camouflage'.

    • @samrowe2889
      @samrowe2889 23 дні тому +9

      @@d.SAiNi. read the original sentence I replied too it says the Samn word twice and then ends in (and not)
      And not what ? Not what ?
      There is nothing after the not

    • @d.SAiNi.
      @d.SAiNi. 23 дні тому +30

      @@samrowe2889 "...and not camouflage." But we're unable to see/read it as it's been camouflaged (hypothetically)...😅😂

  • @lukaschen3009
    @lukaschen3009 23 дні тому +356

    For predators, it doesn’t take them starving to death to drive the natural selection. Simply reproducing less due to less food is enough. For example a pair of brown owls might raise 3 owlets per year while a white pair may only raise one

    • @iprobablyforgotsomething
      @iprobablyforgotsomething 21 день тому +32

      (1) Good point. (2) i totally misread "owlets" as "omelets" and had a good laugh, so thanks for that, even though it was my bad. xD

    • @nuance9000
      @nuance9000 21 день тому +13

      They're likely not "reproducing less", more likely less white owlets grow up to full maturity.
      I mean---you know what (most) owls do to their weaker babies 🍽️

    • @k1j1j1j
      @k1j1j1j 16 днів тому

      9:28

    • @delivererofdarknessshoguno1133
      @delivererofdarknessshoguno1133 8 днів тому

      ​@@nuance9000 Owls lay less eggs in the years when food is not plentiful.

    • @Taima
      @Taima 7 днів тому

      @@iprobablyforgotsomething Sometimes owlets end up as omelettes so it works

  • @dh8203
    @dh8203 23 дні тому +214

    I've had the opportunity to visit a tiger sanctuary in a jungle in Thailand, and that orange cat is very well camouflaged relative to human vision. It makes sense though when you know about how we see color. The difference between brown and orange that we see is largely contextual, so if you have an environment with patches of brown in it and not just a green screen of grass, orange is interpreted as another shade of brown and the tiger vanishes.

    • @TMtheScratcher
      @TMtheScratcher 20 днів тому +16

      not fortgetting to mention all the different small patches of bright light and dark shadows emerging from the gaps between leaves in the jungle's roof. The varying contrasts make it even harder to unconciously spotting such animals.

    • @NabekenProG87
      @NabekenProG87 13 днів тому +2

      I might be wrong, but brown isn't actually a "color"? It's just a darker orange with lighter colors sorounding it, so its more of a contextual color, like you said. Similar to purple, which isn't actually a physical wavelength. Both colors a purely psychological

    • @cleanerben9636
      @cleanerben9636 8 днів тому

      gunna say it looks pretty good for hiding in fields of dry grass and in dark jungles the orange would blend well with a mix of fallen leaves, bark and shadows.

    • @rottensquid
      @rottensquid 2 дні тому

      Tigers are jungle cats. And the jungle floor is an orange leaf litter, striped by the shadows of large ferns. I've seen tigers in that environment, and they're completely invisible, till you actually make out a face staring right at you.

  • @peterharris5475
    @peterharris5475 24 дні тому +179

    Joe I hope you feel satisfied and happy with your job hosting this channel. You are one of the best video presenters on youtube

    • @ChompChompMfkr
      @ChompChompMfkr 23 дні тому +11

      Yes, I can watch this channel when I'm upset or anxious and need something comforting, or just because it's really interesting.

  • @jahleeldelossantos5747
    @jahleeldelossantos5747 24 дні тому +1099

    hello joe not smart people here

  • @spindash64
    @spindash64 24 дні тому +81

    A lot of older military aircraft also used Countershading. The underside was almost always given a light blue-grey color, while the topside was some camouflage depending on where the plane was intended to be used. Naval aircraft tended to use solid colors more, since the ocean doesn't have much of a pattern to blend an outline into.

    • @mihirshetye4624
      @mihirshetye4624 23 дні тому +16

      Sharks also use that same logic for their camouflage.

  • @annekeener4119
    @annekeener4119 24 дні тому +187

    Viceroy butterflies have recently been discovered to also not taste great to predators. It’s Mullerian mimic and tastes just as bad as monarch butterflies. The two species use similar appearances to send the same message of “I taste terrible” reinforcing each other.

    • @bartmannn6717
      @bartmannn6717 24 дні тому +29

      Also, it's fascinating how the terrible taste does save the species as a whole but not the individual. It gets chewed up and spit out dead.

    • @pppp3997
      @pppp3997 23 дні тому +3

      Wait,how do scientists know they taste bad?😮

    • @annekeener4119
      @annekeener4119 23 дні тому +16

      @ they did a test where they presented birds with monarchs and viceroys that had their wings removed and the birds didn’t like eating either one.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 23 дні тому +12

      @@annekeener4119 I want to see what _a bird not happy with its grub_ looks like. That sounds too specific to google.

    • @pcenero
      @pcenero 17 днів тому

      Drops the insect and waddles somewhere else probably.

  • @lamaotung2163
    @lamaotung2163 24 дні тому +85

    3:41 example of house cat camouflage on the carpet. Such nature selection.

    • @matthewb840
      @matthewb840 20 днів тому +1

      Not really, because there are no predators hunting for house cats so there is no natural selection there. Natural selection will happen mainly with outside cats as they still have predators

    • @woomynation
      @woomynation 20 днів тому +18

      ​@@matthewb840 the joke really flew right over you

    • @josephjoestar953
      @josephjoestar953 11 днів тому

      @@matthewb840 Natural selection isn't reserved exclusively for prey, all it'd take is the cat to not catch enough food because it doesn't blend in for the cats that DO blend in to thrive and populate more. Or it to fail to catch food for its babies if it's able to blend in somewhat.

    • @tbotalpha8133
      @tbotalpha8133 День тому

      @@woomynation It was camouflaged too well.

  • @vashsunglasses
    @vashsunglasses 24 дні тому +110

    Another reason why a tiger is orange is because mammals can't synthesize green (or blue) pigment. We don't have the DNA for it. Blue and green eyes are due to the way a certain type of collagen refracts light.

    • @novedad4468
      @novedad4468 21 день тому +6

      It wouldn't have to be a true green pigment tho. It could just be light refraction, like how most birds do it. Although I assume that it's much more difficult to evolve from hair or skin than it is from feathers

    • @TMtheScratcher
      @TMtheScratcher 20 днів тому +3

      @@novedad4468 but red-ish color pigments seem to be reltively easy to synthesize, thus such pigments are present in many animals, plants and fungi

    • @shadyg999
      @shadyg999 16 днів тому +1

      Bro never heard of the animal called the smurf

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine 15 днів тому +2

      Is that why the standard way to make an actor seem like an alien in Sci-fi is to paint them green or blue?

    • @craigrussell3062
      @craigrussell3062 15 днів тому +2

      My inkjet printer is full of blue pigment synthesized by mammals

  • @darrennew8211
    @darrennew8211 24 дні тому +63

    That's why hunting jackets are red or more recently orange. Humans know you're human so you don't get shot, while the huntee can't see you.

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine 15 днів тому +15

      The orange jacket is a bit of "Fudd lore" and is going out of favor. One problem with hunters wearing orange to avoid being shot is what about all the non-hunters who might also be in the area?
      Hunters are perfectly capable of holding their fire and only shooting at something they have positively identified is a legal species to hunt. If your view is so bad you shouldn't be taking the shot.
      This attitude of "I think I can see something, it doesn't look orange so I'll shoot it" is a terrible idea. Also, red-green colorblindness is really common, orange light is just a blend of red and green light.
      When hunting you have to be responsible: be absolutely sure what you're shooting at and position where if you miss any projectile will go in a safe direction. This is why rifle hunters shoot from high ground aiming down, so any miss goes into the ground you can see no one else could be standing.

    • @HweolRidda
      @HweolRidda 15 днів тому +12

      ​@@TreblaineWe don't wear orange to avoid being shot by the well trained hunters, we wear them to increase the odds against idiots.
      However I do hope the less well trained hunters see your post. ❤

  • @NewMessage
    @NewMessage 24 дні тому +185

    I see what you did there.
    Wait.. now I don't.

    • @matthewboire6843
      @matthewboire6843 24 дні тому +3

      🎵BILL BILL BILL BILL, BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY!🎵

  • @Hiddensecret9
    @Hiddensecret9 22 дні тому +28

    Because red-green colorblind people perceive a narrower range of colors, they’re sometimes less distracted by colors in their environment. This can help in distinguishing subtle variations in texture, brightness, and pattern-traits that often give away camouflaged objects.

  • @pandablair4226
    @pandablair4226 24 дні тому +45

    My seventh grade science teacher needs to see this and give me back the deducted points for saying tigers do have camouflage

    • @nobody.of.importance
      @nobody.of.importance 24 дні тому +5

      Did they *actually* say that? Geez.

    • @HweolRidda
      @HweolRidda 15 днів тому +13

      ​@@nobody.of.importanceElementary school teachers are surprisingly science illiterate, with exceptions of course. By about grade 4 our son often knew more about some topics than the teacher. We tried to teach him to listen to what the teacher said and write THAT on the tests.

    • @josephjoestar953
      @josephjoestar953 11 днів тому

      @@HweolRidda Yeah my 8th grade math teacher had me teach a lesson to the class because she couldn't understand it. I've had very few teachers I think back on and think that they were qualified to teach, it's honestly really sad.

    • @HweolRidda
      @HweolRidda 10 днів тому

      @@josephjoestar953 That is a bit sweeping. Teaching elementary school attracts people who are good at relating to kids and aren't bad at the "soft" subjects like reading and writing or even biology. However as a group they are weak at the mathematically sciences.
      Middle school is more of a mixed bag. I give that teacher credit for using you, rather than BSing.

    • @zen6455
      @zen6455 4 дні тому

      @@josephjoestar953
      Next you’re going to say:
      “I was a Grade A student who got burnt out and comments on UA-cam science videos now”

  • @timeshark8727
    @timeshark8727 13 днів тому +10

    One of the big misconceptions about countershading is that it is meant to make the animal harder to see from below, when in reality it makes them all but disappear into the background when viewed from the side. This is especially true in the water.

  • @floyd2386
    @floyd2386 24 дні тому +17

    About tigers, my neighbor used to have an orange cat that use to get out and hide in my bushes and garden. You wouldn't think it, but that cat was hard for my human eyes to spot when he was there.

  • @MasterAndyWan
    @MasterAndyWan 24 дні тому +144

    90s kids like myself had a void once we grew up and no longer had Bill Nye teaching us. 🤕 As adults, Joe fills that void. 🤩

    • @matthewboire6843
      @matthewboire6843 24 дні тому +6

      Joe nye

    • @edenisburning
      @edenisburning 24 дні тому +4

      Wow.. that is so true it's kinda creepy. To be fair, Joe more than just fills that void. He overflows it.

    • @MasterAndyWan
      @MasterAndyWan 24 дні тому +1

      @@edenisburning Completely agree! 💯

    • @matthewboire6843
      @matthewboire6843 24 дні тому +5

      @@MasterAndyWan 🎵BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL NYE THE SCENCE GUY!🎵

    • @brucecook502
      @brucecook502 24 дні тому

      And unfortunately some of us that grew up in the 80's and 90s had people like Ken Ham(young earth religious fundamentalist) brainwashing us to view the world through an Uber pseudoscientific lens based on a bunch of fairy tales. Too bad it took a whole 32 out of the 40 years I've been alive to realize this but at least I grew out of it eventually LOL

  • @chrisoffersen
    @chrisoffersen 24 дні тому +102

    I think hunting camouflage is also tuned to human vision so we associate it with good camouflage (and buy it). Because it could have orange in it and work fine.

    • @cracyfrogs1002
      @cracyfrogs1002 24 дні тому +46

      @@chrisoffersen market failure considering that hunting camouflage beeing high vis for humans but low vis for deers solves two problems at once.

    • @plomox1234
      @plomox1234 24 дні тому +23

      They do make deer hunting vests that are orange to protect yourself from other hunters, they are just not as common as others.

    • @bikeforever2016
      @bikeforever2016 24 дні тому +1

      Think ginger tom cats?

    • @samarnadra
      @samarnadra 24 дні тому +17

      I asked a hunter friend of a friend once how pink camo could possibly be useful for more than fashion and learned deer don't see red, so we actually have camo that is very visible to an average human and works for deer on the market, and people buy it and use it, but not because it actually often works as well or better and is visible to other hunters for safety, but because of gender norms. It is so weird how humans think.

    • @sumit92artist
      @sumit92artist 24 дні тому +4

      Nah, an orange camo would still be visible to birds, who can see an even wider range of colors than us, and thus useless for photography.

  • @flightographist
    @flightographist 24 дні тому +32

    Hey joe, this is Chris...the guy that was behind you the whole time. I was in the chiaroscuro suit, even in the corner of your office, I left a red pistachio with a blue smiley face as proof.

  • @courtney5796
    @courtney5796 24 дні тому +43

    It's amazing what the brain sees and doesn't see. Very cool and kind of scary that our brain fills-in/finishes/ignores a lot of the information our eyes gather.

    • @msromike123
      @msromike123 24 дні тому +2

      It is cool, but if you think the brain is filling in the blind spot caused by the circular optic disc right smack in the center of your field of vision, it makes more sense.

  • @fumikato
    @fumikato 23 дні тому +43

    "How do you get this perfect form you have?"
    "Lots of dying cousins"

  • @OriginalYonta
    @OriginalYonta 24 дні тому +30

    This topic is so fascinating and the lack of to much repeat is so nice to watch. Great job people.

  • @kidwithoutastraw
    @kidwithoutastraw 24 дні тому +13

    3:02 did I just get unironically stick bugged

    • @Kwauhn.
      @Kwauhn. 15 днів тому +2

      We all did 😔

  • @jer103
    @jer103 24 дні тому +23

    Camouflage is literally magic. It plays on our perception on how things work. Some magic tricks use this against us.

  • @theexchipmunk
    @theexchipmunk 24 дні тому +12

    I would also like one thing pointed out in these videos more. This one scratches a little on it. Humans are unfair. Because of our high inteligence, pretty damn good eyes, and absolutely insane pattern recognition, we can look through camoflage like few if any other animals can. While we do get fooled by it too, it is so much less reliable on us than on most other animals.

    • @jamesmnguyen
      @jamesmnguyen 23 дні тому +3

      If TierZoo has taught me anything: Intelligence is the direct counter to camouflage.

    • @Jayson_Tatum
      @Jayson_Tatum 14 днів тому +2

      Big thing he missed was saying that the snake was "invisible" when we have been hard wired for millions of years to be able to detect snakes - regardless of however much camouflage they may have. If it is snake shaped, we WILL see it.

    • @clubardi
      @clubardi 8 днів тому +1

      @@Jayson_Tatum very true, it is so hardwired into our brain that we will in most cases actually avoid getting bitten, bc subconsciously we recognise the shape of a snake and automatically retract, and that's saying something when snakes have a reaction time of roughly 45ms at their fastest while humans are at about 150ms

    • @theexchipmunk
      @theexchipmunk 6 днів тому +1

      @@jamesmnguyen It is. Intelligence really is a hard counter for a lot of things. Which is why we as a species skilled so hard into it. With what out ancestors had, mainly not all that of a great sense of smell, no true natural defences or weapons, hearing that isn’t all that great compared to other animals, and not a whole lot of power? With the evolutionary niche we slid into developing intelligence was basically a forgone conclusion. Because being already pretty smart and nimble with dexterous appendages and good vision, it really was a set up for developing intelligence to compensate for other areas our ancestors lacked in. No natural defense? Well, be intelligent enough to avoid the danger. No natural weapons? Well, there is a whole lot of perfectly fine sticks/rocks lying around. No good sense of smell or hearing? Well, visions is good, so you need intelligence and skill up that pattern recognition to stand in for it. And memory to stay aware of these things despite them only existing when looked at. Also spacial relations and a very good understanding of past present and capabilities to calculate possible futures.
      Really, it was a perfect storm that made our ancestors develop exactly the right traits for the kind of intelligence we have.
      What really killed it was that our ancestors got forced to become ground animals instead of arboreal, so they suddenly had those nimble hands and arms free to constantly do stuff instead of locomotion. And the incredibly range of motion of their shoulders from originally climbing added in did one thing utterly unique in the animal kingdom. Precisely throwing things with a lot of power.
      If you take all that stuff together, you suddenly get in a feedback loop of success after a certain threshold of intelligence is passed. Which favours higher intelligence and rewards it with better survival, and even more sucess. Which leads us to us modern humans, being so intelligent we can repurpose the original hardware for utterly different and originally “unintended” tasks. Which makes us one of the scariest super predators to have ever lived, because even if we are at first unsuccessful, given time we WILL find a solution. Humans are basically the animal equivalent of the “Batman with prep time can beat anyone” meme.

  • @AlexanderWeixelbaumer
    @AlexanderWeixelbaumer 24 дні тому +56

    I expeced Joe to be dressed as Waldo

    • @stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
      @stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 24 дні тому

      hehehe

    • @MazdaTiger
      @MazdaTiger 24 дні тому +5

      TFW we are Waldo's predator hence he hides so well

    • @MolexGamePlay
      @MolexGamePlay 24 дні тому

      Or he is ours

    • @TasteOfButterflies
      @TasteOfButterflies 24 дні тому +3

      ​@@MolexGamePlaythat's a great concept for an f-tier horror movie.

    • @iprobablyforgotsomething
      @iprobablyforgotsomething 19 днів тому

      @AlexanderWeixelbaumer -- A missed opportunity, for sure. I am now, though, imagining Waldo-Joe but with forest 'camo' green and traffic cone-orange stripes instead of his usual red-and-white shirt and hat. Like some mashup of actual tiger's stripes camouflage and the human fashion green-camo print idea of camouflage. And wow, what an eyesore that would be (once you actually finally spotted him, of course).

  • @Rebel7284
    @Rebel7284 24 дні тому +29

    I did actually see through the disguise in the beginning, but it was 100% because I was looking for something even slightly out of place due to the title.

    • @anupamshukla6357
      @anupamshukla6357 24 дні тому +10

      Yes if you are in the wild, you will not be able to see those animals.
      In the video, you KNOW that there is an animal somewhere so you were looking for it, it ain't happening in the wild. 😄

    • @georgehugh3455
      @georgehugh3455 24 дні тому

      This is all good "Highlights" training

    • @JoelFeila
      @JoelFeila 24 дні тому

      i did but My eyes didn't even get a chance to look at that part before the camera moved on

  • @Gilgwathir
    @Gilgwathir 16 днів тому +2

    Woah-oh-oh-oh, Camouflage
    Things are never quite the way they seem
    Woah-oh-oh-oh, Camouflage
    I was awfully glad to see this big Marine

  • @Digiflower5
    @Digiflower5 13 днів тому +4

    This explains why a regular squirrel in my yard (I could recognize him by his scruffy tail) was confused when I was passing out Halloween candy in a costume. Normally he runs away from me but couldn't figure me out and got closer than normal.

    • @craigrussell3062
      @craigrussell3062 10 днів тому

      (IT WAS THE CANDY)

    • @SorryImKindaShy
      @SorryImKindaShy 13 годин тому

      Maybe he did recognize you and thought you looked silly af tbf

    • @Digiflower5
      @Digiflower5 11 годин тому

      @@SorryImKindaShy maybe haha

  • @Helmann9265
    @Helmann9265 24 дні тому +14

    Great 💯
    P.s. Camouflage - without a single word about -- octopus 🤔

    • @samarnadra
      @samarnadra 24 дні тому +9

      The octopus chose all of the above _and_ shapeshifting. They really need a video of their own.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 23 дні тому +2

      There is a quick video clip of an octopus in the video, but he wasn't specifically talking about octopuses, it was just a visual example of different types of camo.

  • @Art-lf7zq
    @Art-lf7zq 22 дні тому +10

    He immediately starts the video with a bit about camouflage. Meanwhile, my screen: goes black when I hit full screen, then dimmed with YT buttons. When that's over I hear "YOU JUST GOT FOOLED BY CAMOUFLAGE!!"

  • @polymathg
    @polymathg 7 днів тому +2

    4:25 Rush "Counterparts" back cover. 🥳

  • @VioletWhirlwind
    @VioletWhirlwind 11 днів тому +1

    9:46 It worked so well, it even fooled it's own kind! @ butterfly landing on another butterfly on the right.

  • @S1su
    @S1su 24 дні тому +3

    Finland mentioned! 🇫🇮🫡

  • @rhodrage
    @rhodrage 24 дні тому +4

    It's always amazed me how this works.

  • @thefireman3476
    @thefireman3476 12 днів тому +2

    It's interesting how Zebra camouflage themselves onto their group, the stripes and such when mixed together in a group of zebras makes it quite hard to for predators to pick out individual zebras, it all just looks like one blob of zebra. They not only camouflaged themselves onto their background, they created their own background.

    • @billyruffian1426
      @billyruffian1426 7 днів тому

      The alternative hypothesis is that the stripes repel biting flies.

    • @alganhar1
      @alganhar1 День тому

      @@billyruffian1426 Fairly certain this is the stronger hypothesis at the moment. Or at least it was when I last really looked at the relevant literature a few years ago.
      I am a Marine Ecologist though, so I do not keep absolutely up to date when it comes to terrestrial stuff, so things may have changed in the intervening period.

  • @PotentFrost
    @PotentFrost 19 днів тому +3

    I dont know man. I once saw a video of a tiger walking into some foliage and it just melted into it. It might be even harder for a deer but i think it's pretty hard for humans too

  • @dervakommtvonhinten517
    @dervakommtvonhinten517 24 дні тому +17

    your shark example is wrong. its got a light belly and dark back cause its an ambush predator so if its below the prey, the darker back fuses it with the dark depths, and if its above the prey its white belly is harder to pick out in the bright water with sun illuminating the background.

    • @KY-jd1nl
      @KY-jd1nl 12 днів тому

      The ambush predator part isnt as relevant right? Genuinely asking. Isnt it more of an ocean swimmer thing e.g. penguins (predator and prey), manta rays, etc

    • @dervakommtvonhinten517
      @dervakommtvonhinten517 12 днів тому

      @@KY-jd1nl thats something ive heared in several documentaries so im just assuming its correct.

    • @KY-jd1nl
      @KY-jd1nl 12 днів тому

      @@dervakommtvonhinten517 ...have you tried thinking about/answering the question on your own? Or was that just a long-winded way of saying "idk" im confused
      E.g. you can google penguins, manta rays, killer whales, dolphins etc to see many forms of marine life have a white belly and darker top that ARENT ambush predators. in fact, I would think the majority of sea life with larger "surface areas" that don't swim along the seabed or in the deep ocean have similar countershading (what it's called apparently)

    • @dervakommtvonhinten517
      @dervakommtvonhinten517 12 днів тому

      @@KY-jd1nl the light belly dark back is just to camouflage yourself. WHY you evolved that camouflage can be different you know.... a praying mantis is camouflaged just like a stick insect. one is prey, one is a predator...

    • @KY-jd1nl
      @KY-jd1nl 12 днів тому

      @@dervakommtvonhinten517 idk if yt auto removed my reply but... Have you never tried coming up with an answer or opinion on your own? Youre allowed to research too ofc, just like how you got your original post from somewhere else. Or was that just u saying "idk and idc."
      There are many marine creatures that are not ambush predators with the same type of coloring you described e.g. manta rays, blue whales, dolphins, etc. seems like basically most things that have a large "horizontal" surface area and dont swim mostly along sea floor or in deep ocean

  • @Idkwtdwmlrnayd
    @Idkwtdwmlrnayd 20 днів тому +3

    1:57 The dad joke😭

  • @Hustlenem
    @Hustlenem 16 днів тому +1

    i’m seeing everything as soon as the images come up but also understand what you are talking about… can i go to the next class??

  • @sohrabroozbahani4700
    @sohrabroozbahani4700 20 днів тому +4

    Actually... for smaller things with rapid reproduction it doesn't take millions of years to change... I've seen bugs around my place change shape over a decade, and well viruses change basically on a yearly basis...

    • @tbotalpha8133
      @tbotalpha8133 День тому

      Yeah, it takes a lot of generations, but not necessarily a lot of time in absolute terms.
      Neural-network AIs are developed through simulated evolution, and they can go through the whole generational cycle of iterating and testing in seconds, with hundreds or even thousands of instances per generation. Which allows them to home in on whatever their designer is selecting for, extremely rapidly.

    • @alganhar1
      @alganhar1 День тому

      Its a common error. I always encourage students to forget about using years as a measure for evolution, but to use generations instead. Its a generational process after all.

  • @keithbellic2629
    @keithbellic2629 16 днів тому

    What’s awesome is the whole ‘slight changes over time, favouring those who survive’ is the same way neural network coding works and is a really intuitive way for people who don’t understand evolution to see something work. ‘Can this neural network learn to beat mario’ ‘beat snake’ ‘beat etc.’.

  • @VoidVagabond
    @VoidVagabond 24 дні тому +6

    9:20 well of course "in future generations most bugs will still be based", most bugs are still based right now!

  • @TheRuthPo
    @TheRuthPo 24 дні тому +4

    Camouflage is amazing. But I do wonder wouldn't tigers be better if they were green, I know they don't have to be green. Because the deer only have two colour cones. But surely getting as close to the colour of the vegetation as possible would make it even better.

    • @hypotheticalaxolotl
      @hypotheticalaxolotl 24 дні тому +10

      evolution is pretty much a game of "good enough," and works with what it's given. Unless green fur/melanin randomly mutates, that's not gonna happen. And as far as I'm aware, there... really aren't any mammals with green fur - not unless it's from something like algae growing on them, and there are a LOT of species that would love to have green fur to camouflage themselves. So seemingly it's a very difficult thing to randomly mutate.
      Couple that with orange fur being apparently 'good enough' that it works, then even if green fur did randomly mutate it might not actually have all that much of a selection pressure placed on it that would counteract random chance and genetic drift (it's all well and good to be perfectly adapted to your environment but if you have a freak accident and never pass on those genes, then it doesn't matter at all).

    • @nobody.of.importance
      @nobody.of.importance 24 дні тому +7

      tl;dr version: It's a lot of effort for little gain.
      Long version: I actually KIND of have an explanation for this. Mammals typically get their color from varying ratios of two pigment molecules, eumelanin and pheomelanin. The former has a brown color, and high amounts appear black. The latter has a red-yellow tinge, and is responsible for red hair in humans. Generally evolution "prefers" to tweak the ratios of those two pigments as it's relatively very easy to do genetically, needing only a small number of mutations. To create a whole new pigment would likely take a copy and many, MANY mutations to land on 'green' proper. As there's no pressure to evolve that new color (See hypotheticalaxolotl's reply), it just found a pattern that works "good enough".

    • @samuela-aegisdottir
      @samuela-aegisdottir 22 дні тому +1

      TLDR: green seems not to be an option for mammals.

    • @nobody.of.importance
      @nobody.of.importance 22 дні тому +3

      Interestingly, many species of sloth appear green, but it's not a natural pigment, it's algae growing in their fur. :B Works out for the sloth, helps with camouflage.

    • @iprobablyforgotsomething
      @iprobablyforgotsomething 19 днів тому

      @marcosolo6491 -- That's very helpful, as a layman's terms metaphor, thank you.

  • @adamengelhardt107
    @adamengelhardt107 24 дні тому +11

    The Viceroy butterfly is also distasteful, so it's actually an example of Mullerian mimicry, not classic Batesian mimicry. The Viceroy and the Monarch evolved to look similar to each other and predators avoid both because eating either one tastes gross.

  • @Greatly_Incompetent
    @Greatly_Incompetent 13 днів тому +1

    Interesting thing to mention is that not all camouflage is visual for example mimics of poisonous butterflies often mimic the flight of the species they are mimicking and orchid mantises smell more like orchids than orchids do

  • @MrSlosh
    @MrSlosh 16 днів тому +1

    That bit on the bright orange Tigers reminded me of that one "Humans are Space Orcs" story or whatever it's called.
    Where an entire planet of some friendly aliens are being destroyed by what they're describing as an undetectable, unstoppable, Predator style monster army so they beg humans for help. Humans show up thinking it's going to be an impossible mission, only to find out the evil aliens are bright neon pink and freeze still when they think they've been spotted.
    The friendly aliens could only see in infrared or something so the evil aliens could change their surface temps to go invisible for a while, but as the heat built up they turned neon pink in the visible spectrum to us.

  • @RealBelisariusCawl
    @RealBelisariusCawl 18 днів тому +1

    7:51 In the instance of a harmless creature mimicking a dangerous one, it’s more specifically _Batesian_ Mimicry.

  • @SquirrelASMR
    @SquirrelASMR 8 днів тому +1

    I wish humans had fur with many different patterns and colors possible

  • @reporeport
    @reporeport 24 дні тому +2

    Great video!! I don't understand at all how something like mimicry evolves. It's truly baffling to me - oh! you cover it!!

  • @Jayson_Tatum
    @Jayson_Tatum 14 днів тому +1

    One thing missed is human ability to locate danger even when it's camouflaged. We have very acute vision. And coupling this with our binocular sight and broad color reception allows us to locate something like a camouflaged snake VERY easily. Like very VERY easily in fact. Snakes are one of the few animals that we can almost always detect and identify, regardless of their camouflage. If it is snake shaped, we are genetically wired to see it. The main thing driving this is something you DID hit on, and that's our above average ability to see complex shading. The cylindrical shape of a snake creates an unmistakable image in our brains - even when in our limited peripheral vision. Other animals are much more difficult for us to detect, however, due to having generally more complex shapes that contour with their surroundings better. But snakes, yeah... gotta call you out on that one. We see snakes incredibly well.

    • @milansvancara
      @milansvancara 6 днів тому

      Yeah, those snake bites even today mean nothing I guess...
      We see snakes a bit better because our brain is constantly searching for them since it's one of our biggest evolutionary nemesis for eternity.
      We are hardwired to see snakes, but it's not that much better than antelope seeing a lion... it's almost never perfect (apart from some insects)

  • @BloodyMobile
    @BloodyMobile 23 дні тому +6

    9:45 that one butterfly on the right: "OI, stop stepping on me! I'm NOT an actual leaf!"

  • @Name-ps9fx
    @Name-ps9fx 24 дні тому +3

    We should keep in mind that all animals are always going through an evolutionary process....some rapid, some less so. Humans are animals too, and so we should ask, are we evolving "better" or "worse"? Depends on how one defines better or worse...

    • @jamesmnguyen
      @jamesmnguyen 23 дні тому +1

      Most people agree that humans have more or less "stop" evolving. We do however experience genetic drift, which means random mutations that don't benefit/hurt us will stick around and spread out.

    • @Name-ps9fx
      @Name-ps9fx 23 дні тому +3

      @jamesmnguyen
      "Most people" are often wrong. The only evidence they have is based on the idea that we are already at the "top" of the evolutionary journey, which is not true...because there is no "top" of evolution.
      Yes, we are able to avoid further evolution by contesting against natural forces, but that's because there aren't any ice ages currently happening, nor other globally effective extremes. What we do have however, is this advanced society, which I believe will have a massively outsized effect if something happened that forces us back to stone-age level technology. Until that happens, our natural inclination to help each other out will be subverted by the desire to accumulate insane amounts of wealth and comforts, which creates generation after generation of people less inclined/able to weather the dangers we still face from global disasters (I'm not talking about tsunamis, volcanoes, etc, but truly global events, i.e., ice ages). That kind of thing we cannot stop or mitigate, we'll just watch it coming our way. Whatever plans we may develop would be required to survive 20,000 to 50,000 years, and we haven't survived even 10,000 years...most humans would perish, causing a huge shift of the abilities we've developed over time.
      We are still evolving, it just takes more than 100 years to see it. We can see evolution happening after watching 100 generations of germs or bugs, but 100 generations of human = 3,000 years.

    • @davemeise2192
      @davemeise2192 15 днів тому

      @@Name-ps9fx Excellent reply.

    • @alganhar1
      @alganhar1 День тому

      @@jamesmnguyen As an Evolutionary Ecologist I can safely tell you that most people does not include a single member of my field.
      Not one.

  • @whiteycat615
    @whiteycat615 17 днів тому

    One of the most informative videos I watched in recent times

  • @K0D0R0
    @K0D0R0 20 днів тому +2

    That was an intricate “get stick bugged”

  • @josephdonais4778
    @josephdonais4778 24 дні тому +7

    In the military we are taught to apply lighter paint to the more recessed and darker paint to more elevated surfaces in broken patterns utilizing the colors available.

  • @ArkadiBolschek
    @ArkadiBolschek 14 днів тому +1

    "Morning, have you got camo clothing?"
    "We have it, but we can't find it."

  • @freekazoid8489
    @freekazoid8489 21 день тому +1

    Mimicry may be the reason why we humans developed dance/makeup, as a way to rhythmically move together mimicking a "large animal" to keep predators away

  • @Cobbido
    @Cobbido День тому +1

    The owl thing is completely false by the way. There's been no change whatsoever in the average coloration of owls in Finland.

  • @jonathanm9436
    @jonathanm9436 22 дні тому

    Terrific - a really interesting analysis. A mention of disruptive or 'dazzle' camo on WWI and II aeroplanes and ships would have been interesting too.

  • @matthewboire6843
    @matthewboire6843 24 дні тому

    Calf love is so cool and it’s very cleverly designed, good job nature.

  • @SocketSlinger
    @SocketSlinger 4 дні тому

    Walking sticks in blackberry patches is a really good one 9:26

  • @markherring6143
    @markherring6143 24 дні тому +2

    "this picture is what it looks like to us and this other one is what it looks like to them." - they both look exactly the same

  • @Add_Infinitum
    @Add_Infinitum 23 дні тому +7

    Hm, you know if someone walked around in the woods in a ghille suit they would be mistaken for bigfoot, but if they went to the store in a realistic bigfoot suit they'd just be given weird looks. No one would suspect a real bigfoot buys groceries

  • @kostarak3160
    @kostarak3160 24 дні тому

    I like how you also hidden an easter egg for us to find, like it being camouflaged.
    Great addition to the video I almost missed it. I promise i won't spoil it for the rest.

  • @Akshaygupta13
    @Akshaygupta13 24 дні тому

    Hello joe, been watching your videos for years now. Love your work❤

  • @ethanvaughan9657
    @ethanvaughan9657 7 годин тому

    Want to point out that chameleons don’t change color to match background. Some species are a usual green but when firing up (stressing) they’ll have patterns. Some are colorful with oranges, reds, blues etc and these colors change also when firing up or when calming down. Temps can also change how vibrant they are, ex a cold chameleon will be much darker than a warmed up and alert chameleon.

  • @machiavelZongo
    @machiavelZongo 23 дні тому

    i love this amazing video, this guy has something that other don't have lol his amazing jokes sometimes are absolutely amazing and cooool. I love this guy seriously amazing youtube channel.

  • @n-rajesh
    @n-rajesh 23 дні тому

    It’s fascinating to learn the reason behind these extreme natural camouflages! Sometimes we don’t give due credit to the smartness of many species.
    If taking the shape of your predator’s predator is not a sign of intelligence I do not know what is! There are no tales or anecdotes passed on in these species, it’s all either just some sort of higher mathematics or extreme bioscience at play - either way I find this engrossing 😊

  • @chillsahoy2640
    @chillsahoy2640 21 день тому +2

    -3.8 billion BC. One microbe just accidentally enveloped another and started reusing its molecular components. And that's how the predator-prey relationship got started.

  • @stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
    @stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 24 дні тому +2

    My brain is bad at taking shortcuts lol i can't follow my instinct and the sensory processing is wacky
    cool video 👍

  • @SquirrelASMR
    @SquirrelASMR 8 днів тому +1

    Could aliens evolve invisibility camouflage naturally?

    • @alganhar1
      @alganhar1 День тому

      As in literally turning invisible? I would say the chances of that happening are so small that it is essentially impossible (if not quite). More likely is something more along the lines of how Octopi are able to 'disappear.' A combination of colour change, and also of some control over their skin surface to break up the shape. Its not invisibility but its probably the closest any living organism is going to get.

  • @MattCantSpeakIt
    @MattCantSpeakIt 3 дні тому

    I used to play airsoft. Even without a ghillie suit... a simple and effective camo like Canadian CADPAT, I have seen teammates move up, crouch down and stop... As SOON as you stop moving, you become invisible... it's insanely effective. A ghillie suit is the best, it completely breaks your silouhette... if you choose your spot wisely and stay immobile, there is no way anybody can EVER see you...

  • @Teatime4Tom
    @Teatime4Tom 24 дні тому +8

    What you took advantage of was a moving camera along with a low frame rate to create a blurry image.

  • @Sophiedorian0535
    @Sophiedorian0535 16 днів тому +1

    I remember camouflage as this awful big marine. Then again, I don’t consider myself to be overfurnished in the brain department, by any stretch of the imagination.

  • @BlackWater_49
    @BlackWater_49 24 дні тому +1

    6:55 It would have been more striking if you used the bright orange hunter's camo...

  • @SquirrelASMR
    @SquirrelASMR 8 днів тому +2

    0:49 is such a bill nye moment

  • @paurushbhatnagar8100
    @paurushbhatnagar8100 16 днів тому

    Great show and great episode.

  • @FlumpyTripod
    @FlumpyTripod 16 днів тому

    Great visualization for natural selection

  • @emmagoff
    @emmagoff 24 дні тому

    Hi Joe love the longer video and great information!👍😀😀😀

  • @bign828
    @bign828 6 днів тому

    Hey Joe, I recently traveled to India and actually went on a safari to see bengal tigers. and their camouflage is actually great to hide from people. This is because the dirt and trees that surrounded the forest we were in were ORANGE ! When we were tiger spotting we saw 3 tigers, and it was nearly impossible to make them out on an iPhone camera or in person from 100-200 yards. And if they are near trees they are almost impossible to see from the combination of orange color and shadows

  • @theAquillo
    @theAquillo 15 днів тому +1

    Please make the ATP synthase video!!

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 24 дні тому +1

    Truly fascinating stuff!

  • @Skeware
    @Skeware 16 днів тому

    - Camouflage isn't what it appears to be, guys.
    > Proceeds to explain all that we all know camouflage is, but in more detail
    👍🏻

  • @wombat.6652
    @wombat.6652 23 дні тому

    Brilliant demonstration of evolutionary process! Thank you.

  • @diggledwarf
    @diggledwarf 21 день тому

    Says he won't be talking about the basic forms of camouflage and then proceeds only to talk about the basic forms of camouflage. I guess I shouldn't have let him trick me into thinking there was more he was going to talk about. This is the first grade level info on this topic, come on man

  • @NabekenProG87
    @NabekenProG87 13 днів тому

    What always dissapoints me with these demonstrations of camouflage on YT is, that I have the feeling that the motion blur, bad resolution, bad colour reproduction of my monitor and 2D image have more of an impact for a successful camouflage than the fact you stood in a forest with a guile suit. I'm positive that the camouflage works realy well, but the technical limitations make it feel like cheating

  • @beachbum77979
    @beachbum77979 24 дні тому +1

    I was kinda hoping that the WWII battleship camo paint jobs worked, or didn't would be explained. You disguised that info pretty well.

    • @samarnadra
      @samarnadra 24 дні тому +6

      You mean the weird striking "dazzle camoflauge"? It does work, in much the same way that zebra stripes make flies confused, it is really hard to tell what a dazzle camoflauged ship is doing, especially in motion, and when you often have random light and dark patches on the water surface where the light hits it and in the sky with clouds, it can be harder to pick it out from the background. It acts more like radar camouflage where you create interference with strange angles so the signal doesn't bounce back right.
      It won't help hide it when the ship is right there, but not much could hide a battleship in that situation. It obscures its form and movement at a distance to prevent it being targeted easily and to enable it to approach without being seen until it is too late.
      Nowadays we use radar and not visual targeting so it isn't really useful.

    • @HweolRidda
      @HweolRidda 15 днів тому

      It is an example of crypsis. At about 3:41. Not especially well disguised info.
      (Apologies if you were entirely tongue in cheek. I considered that and decided you weren't.)

  • @user-mm1nt1it5v
    @user-mm1nt1it5v 15 днів тому +1

    6:28 you had the perfect opportunity here to explain why hunters wear orange and deer cant see them and you completely missed it.

    • @milansvancara
      @milansvancara 6 днів тому

      educated people don't hunt that often

  • @LookItsLaffyyy
    @LookItsLaffyyy 7 днів тому

    the toothpick explanation on evolution was great.

  • @matthewboire6843
    @matthewboire6843 24 дні тому +3

    4:51 I saw It immediately

    • @DareChimera
      @DareChimera 24 дні тому +1

      You should have seen everything immediately, none of the animals shown should have been an issue to spot for us

    • @LosJoshh
      @LosJoshh 24 дні тому

      Pattern recognition baby, human brains always looking for patterns to easily identify it. There’s also that theory that we develop an ability to such a degree because of snakes, due to them being predators to early humans 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @krause-dq3ro
      @krause-dq3ro 24 дні тому

      @@DareChimeralmaooo

    • @Jujudollbaby
      @Jujudollbaby 23 дні тому

      LITERALLY SHNKHGS LIKE BRO WHAT R U ON ABOUT 😭

    • @mystifoxtech
      @mystifoxtech 5 днів тому

      how do I see you everywhere

  • @zxtee
    @zxtee 23 дні тому

    Is camouflage only limited to deception of sight/vision? Other types of deception that trick other senses like smell and acoustic dont count as camouflage? What do we call them?

    • @zxtee
      @zxtee 23 дні тому

      Camouflage actually encompasses concealment across multiple senses, not just visual deception. The broader term "crypsis" refers to an organism's ability to avoid detection using various methods:
      1. Visual camouflage (Visual crypsis)
      - Color matching
      - Countershading
      - Disruptive coloration
      2. Acoustic camouflage (Acoustic crypsis)
      - Sound dampening
      - Mimicking environmental sounds
      - Ultrasonic stealth in moths
      3. Olfactory camouflage (Chemical crypsis)
      - Scent masking
      - Chemical mimicry
      - Odor suppression
      4. Thermal camouflage (Thermal crypsis)
      - Heat signature reduction
      - Temperature matching
      While "camouflage" is often used interchangeably with visual concealment in everyday language, scientific literature recognizes these different forms as subtypes of crypsis. Would you like me to elaborate on any specific type of sensory deception?

  • @SimonPertus
    @SimonPertus 13 днів тому

    That’s also why hunters often will dress up in orange or a kind of safety west camouflage. While the game won’t notice you visually as long as your camouflage brakes up your silhouette because they can’t really see those colours (like a tiger), it contributes to the safety of the hunter overall, making him visible for the human eye and thus preventing friendly fire and helping with detection in case of an emergency.

  • @einsteinwasright1044
    @einsteinwasright1044 10 днів тому

    PBS app isn't going anywhere as long as the first question, which the user can't get past, is to specify the preferred PBS broadcasting station, a rather out-dated question

  • @noob19087
    @noob19087 5 днів тому +1

    I wonder if futuristic computer integrated brains can learn to be less efficient, when bandwidth is plentifully available. Will the brain stop taking those shortcuts, and some illusions stop working?

  • @genijekojot9969
    @genijekojot9969 24 дні тому +1

    Great job!

  • @geeksdo1tbetter
    @geeksdo1tbetter 13 днів тому

    3:02 literally shouted out loud!

  • @adamoconnor8958
    @adamoconnor8958 24 дні тому +1

    He does the camouflage bit at the very beginning of the video so that everyone's screen resolution is still low.

  • @SquirrelASMR
    @SquirrelASMR 8 днів тому +1

    I like how there's squirrels in this bideo

  • @Mortyoppenheim
    @Mortyoppenheim 15 днів тому +1

    Was the name once: "it's okay to be smart"?
    I'm not hating at all but I like that name more than just "be smart".
    Anyway love your videos:)

    • @milansvancara
      @milansvancara 6 днів тому

      The thing is, it's not okay to be smart in the US anymore... you get hunted