I think I see why the viper smoke isn't in the corner, but slightly to the right. It optimizes the smoke bc you can't see to backsite/waterfall either way but it gives him the option to lurk into the smoke. Its a mindgame for them.
This guy is the real deal I've been watching his videos for like 2-3 months now and I went from bronze 3 to hitting diamond 1 yesterday. The fact he actually explains concepts instead of just saying improve it is amazing, he always finds the right way to make someone understand.
i play viper on lotus and having everything broken down like this helps sooo much. also, i've been doing the aimlabs routine every day for 2 weeks now and it's crazy how much of an improvement i feel. still have a long way to go in terms of translating the mechanics into in-game confidence tho.
Do you think that a cypher cage would also be a good idea where the viper orb is positioned on c? I play cypher and I'm curious to see other opinions on the thought.
Timing it would be tough and cypher cage isn't as big as viper orb, it's worth some experimentation in your ranked games to see how effective it is for you
As a fellow cypher main who has 1K hours on him, I think this is a great idea and will try it in all my ranked games and will look to create an optimal trip setup
Tysm Mr Banana for ur highly educational content no scoped into my brain everyday, I ranked up from iron 3 to sliver 1 today, currently climbing to gold. I will eat a banana as appreciation to you today 🍌❤️
Funny,its been ages since ive played rainbow six siege, but just the other day i was considering how breaches work for both attackers and defenders. It tickles me to see the same concept here but for smokes 😎
9:16 happened to me yesterday on ascent, me and my team were hunting for enemy brim around attracter spawn bc 2nd last guy was killed there by me and my team brim was behind me and i turned around saw him started shooting panickingly......this caused him to be frightened, thinking the enemy Brim was behind him. It turned into a hilarious moment from yesterday. PS: won that match 13:7
Thats a great setup. Seems Viper can handle it solo since she has 2 mollies and smoke, whereas other agents would need a tmate to achieve the same results. Idk but maybe one way to counter this is for Raze to satchel on to site early or Jett to Rush over smoke but I could be wrong.
Ok so I need some thoughts one the same top C smoke but I use Omen and I tp inside the smoke and tp again inside my CT smoke I've done this a couple of times with a few variations sometimes I besides the box below instead of the smoke top site, sometimes I tp waterfall, is this a good play or not? I only do this on attacker tho
Mr Banana I have a question. Why am I in high silver lobbies when I have been hard stuck bronze 2 for years? Is it my MMR? How can I lower it so I can fight people my rank?
@TH-im7qo you have to hold E or Q, you will see a second little bar appear (under the usual one), if that's there, just keep holding the botton until you have the ability back. There are some weird timings where you can't recall it, not quite sure why, but you'll figure it out.
Love your content, Am an ex CS player that wants to be allot better in valorant. My highest achived rank in CS is Master Guardian Elite. Ranked in Valorant can be verry tilting though, I make mistakes as much as the next person, But peeking 1 by 1 or, 5 stack rush a bomb site without getting info is verry common annoying thing. In CS this is a pretty common thing to do i'd say there's basic's you need to know like line-ups certain rolls like Entry fragg, IGL sorta, The ultil support, Lurker, ETC. When trying to climb people do the most random stuff and trying to give some strats or changing there mind is not gonna happen, How do i take in this problem?
does this not work for just 1 or 2 rounds, its so easy to counter just fake once and rehit, the next times mix it up with fakes and executes , no mollies,just smoke is an issue,what am I missing?
They have to fake with smokes and other util, in exchange for a Molly and orb. You still have another Molly to delay and with double controller you can get main smoked even if you run out of orb and just Molly that out when they resmoke C to delay again. There is little chance they just walk in to site without smoking anything but you can just have a teammate in waterfall watching for the walk out and then you Molly and swing instead, with a cross fire on the vulnerable players. Just avoid dumping the mollies unless they invest smokes and this works out to at least stall for like 30 seconds if not more, which is insane for any stall set-up that is this resilient to anything but a full util-dump push.
@@abhishekmalhotra1831 if you have any aerial entry mollies don't work for that long. And aren't they investing sentinel util on C , I guess they are stacking B and A but two controllers+kj+ whatever other two seems like a nightmare to attack with. I can just send a fake to C to bring out viper util trying to get the lurkers out , once it runs out we rotate to C and hit it, if we get kills C is already weakened because now they are not sure what we are hitting. This works maybe 2-3 rounds max, now if the viper on C is just an aim god in general then it's totally different. We ain't hitting C at all 😂, only fakes and lurks. Side note: I have very limited solo queue experience, we are 5 friends who stack together to play so not sure how these things pan out in solo and this is dia-asc-immo lobbies, radiant is completely different ikik
I checked the rules for vod submission. Why does Hooj not allow Astra vods under immortal? I only play astra on almost every map and I am no where close to immo
btw the flick that chamber COULD do my friend and me sometimes shot my friend was shoting like 33% headshot rate at those flicks but me 7% maybe im iron 2 and hes silver 1
I cant wait to fill my brain with potassium power and knowledge of the only agent I don't have unlocked
lmao😂
I think I see why the viper smoke isn't in the corner, but slightly to the right. It optimizes the smoke bc you can't see to backsite/waterfall either way but it gives him the option to lurk into the smoke. Its a mindgame for them.
also you can see feet from tall box as well
This guy is the real deal I've been watching his videos for like 2-3 months now and I went from bronze 3 to hitting diamond 1 yesterday. The fact he actually explains concepts instead of just saying improve it is amazing, he always finds the right way to make someone understand.
Finally! I've been struggling with viper on lotus, glad to see a pro analysis on it
Shout out to T3 that helped make this thumbnail with Mr. hooj himself! 💀x7
I've been waiting for a viper related video for soo long. As a viper main this is sooooo helpfull, thx banana man
we need replay and outlines already so we can see how nat's doesnt hit chamber at 24:19
i play viper on lotus and having everything broken down like this helps sooo much. also, i've been doing the aimlabs routine every day for 2 weeks now and it's crazy how much of an improvement i feel. still have a long way to go in terms of translating the mechanics into in-game confidence tho.
Do you think that a cypher cage would also be a good idea where the viper orb is positioned on c? I play cypher and I'm curious to see other opinions on the thought.
its good because its viper orb, cypher cage wont hold long so its not effective
Timing it would be tough and cypher cage isn't as big as viper orb, it's worth some experimentation in your ranked games to see how effective it is for you
I don't think it is. It's way smaller, doesn't do decay damage and has no one way effect.
+ you don't have mollies to stall the bend push
@@n4fis780 +1 for this comment
As a fellow cypher main who has 1K hours on him, I think this is a great idea and will try it in all my ranked games and will look to create an optimal trip setup
The orb being on right probably helps get info of enemies crossing from main to site.
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Tysm Mr Banana for ur highly educational content no scoped into my brain everyday, I ranked up from iron 3 to sliver 1 today, currently climbing to gold. I will eat a banana as appreciation to you today 🍌❤️
he totally just chucks that orb and just understands how to play around it
I used to be Iron 1, then I ate a lot of potassium and became iron 2. BUT THEN, I watched these vods now I'm Radiant #1 Thank you banana man.
If woohoojin goes pro Imma build a banana shrine
hi banana man, ive went from plat to ascendant from just watching, vod incoming soon?
I've seen Suygetsu also play Cypher and put a cage in the same spot as that orb and play around the cage.
Funny,its been ages since ive played rainbow six siege, but just the other day i was considering how breaches work for both attackers and defenders. It tickles me to see the same concept here but for smokes 😎
2:59 ive gotten so many kills from prefiring that in silver
I am planning on maiming omen hopefully this helps me out
9:16 happened to me yesterday on ascent, me and my team were hunting for enemy brim around attracter spawn bc 2nd last guy was killed there by me and my team brim was behind me and i turned around saw him started shooting panickingly......this caused him to be frightened, thinking the enemy Brim was behind him. It turned into a hilarious moment from yesterday.
PS: won that match 13:7
Note that nads throws the orb more to the right, so his teammates can hold for cross if they want.
a stick went threw my shoe and in my foot sad
Love me some nats analysis. Can we do nats cypher again next?
Thats a great setup. Seems Viper can handle it solo since she has 2 mollies and smoke, whereas other agents would need a tmate to achieve the same results. Idk but maybe one way to counter this is for Raze to satchel on to site early or Jett to Rush over smoke but I could be wrong.
Sorry i've been away for a bit but what happened to funday fridays?
lets goooo been playing viper on this map, this is very appreciated
If smoke in corner attackers can lurk onto site without waterfall spotting it. It’s why some attacking omens throw that smoke
does he post the drawings he makes of the strats and walls anywhere?
Wait that orb is actually crazy how have I never found out about this until now
Me watching hooj knowing im never gonna Pick viper 😂 great vids btw
19:17 i can’t see any gun barrel even when i paused it am i trippin
Ok so I need some thoughts one the same top C smoke but I use Omen and I tp inside the smoke and tp again inside my CT smoke I've done this a couple of times with a few variations sometimes I besides the box below instead of the smoke top site, sometimes I tp waterfall, is this a good play or not? I only do this on attacker tho
I am excited to try that orb on viper though lotus was already one of my better maps since I own on C site but that orb seems so fun
Mr Banana I have a question. Why am I in high silver lobbies when I have been hard stuck bronze 2 for years? Is it my MMR? How can I lower it so I can fight people my rank?
Can confirm used this smoke after seeing this live got myself many free kills to rank up to plat 3
Wait so ur telling me the one game i filled as brim and did this smoke actually works? it worked pretty well for me that match too
NATS VOD LETS FKIN GO!!!!!!!!!!
Who edits these and can I talk to them?
Wow nAts review from both woohoojij and dopai , looks like i won a lottery
Do you think this smoke works on other controllers e.g. omen?
viper mains eating good today
i wonder how you counter a team on lotus that pushes A on defense with breach, raze etc. if your team has no breach,raze,recon or any of the sorts
CONTROLLER CONTENT WOOHOOOOOO-*jin*
Can't wait for [spoilers] next ranked vid with reyna giving 40$ as promised
7:59 that's so funny xD
The wisdom....
I like how nats acts as if the ult is a 4th ability
Now i have a controller book for lotus, i have more potassium now i am getting stronger now, thanks banana coach
lotus has changed yet this smoke still lives on forever.
How do you take back your viper wall after putting it down in custom ?
Just hold the button, works for both wall and orb.
@@thesilvanalyst6880 which button? I press Q and E, and it just turns on and off wall and the orb
@TH-im7qo you have to hold E or Q, you will see a second little bar appear (under the usual one), if that's there, just keep holding the botton until you have the ability back. There are some weird timings where you can't recall it, not quite sure why, but you'll figure it out.
Love your content, Am an ex CS player that wants to be allot better in valorant. My highest achived rank in CS is Master Guardian Elite.
Ranked in Valorant can be verry tilting though, I make mistakes as much as the next person, But peeking 1 by 1 or, 5 stack rush a bomb site without getting info is verry common annoying thing. In CS this is a pretty common thing to do i'd say there's basic's you need to know like line-ups certain rolls like Entry fragg, IGL sorta, The ultil support, Lurker, ETC. When trying to climb people do the most random stuff and trying to give some strats or changing there mind is not gonna happen, How do i take in this problem?
Or u can do the retake wall from b to c. Both good imo. (Resident viper nerd)
Holy crap that's genius
does this not work for just 1 or 2 rounds, its so easy to counter
just fake once and rehit, the next times mix it up with fakes and executes , no mollies,just smoke is an issue,what am I missing?
They have to fake with smokes and other util, in exchange for a Molly and orb. You still have another Molly to delay and with double controller you can get main smoked even if you run out of orb and just Molly that out when they resmoke C to delay again. There is little chance they just walk in to site without smoking anything but you can just have a teammate in waterfall watching for the walk out and then you Molly and swing instead, with a cross fire on the vulnerable players. Just avoid dumping the mollies unless they invest smokes and this works out to at least stall for like 30 seconds if not more, which is insane for any stall set-up that is this resilient to anything but a full util-dump push.
@@abhishekmalhotra1831 if you have any aerial entry mollies don't work for that long. And aren't they investing sentinel util on C , I guess they are stacking B and A but two controllers+kj+ whatever other two seems like a nightmare to attack with. I can just send a fake to C to bring out viper util trying to get the lurkers out , once it runs out we rotate to C and hit it, if we get kills C is already weakened because now they are not sure what we are hitting. This works maybe 2-3 rounds max, now if the viper on C is just an aim god in general then it's totally different. We ain't hitting C at all 😂, only fakes and lurks.
Side note: I have very limited solo queue experience, we are 5 friends who stack together to play so not sure how these things pan out in solo and this is dia-asc-immo lobbies, radiant is completely different ikik
Me who used nats for my lotus notes a month ago is Just like the Di caprio mene.
I checked the rules for vod submission. Why does Hooj not allow Astra vods under immortal? I only play astra on almost every map and I am no where close to immo
He’s said in the past that it’s because he thinks picking astra in low elo is not worth it due to lack of communication in lower Elo’s
@@Zoinks3245 hmm that's fair. unfortunate
@@randomfella133 I feel you as a fellow astra main 😭
Common Woohoojin W
when they said viper is only one setup away from meta on every map they really weren't kidding 💀
Hooj is like Isagi. Change my mind
btw the flick that chamber COULD do my friend and me sometimes shot my friend was shoting like 33% headshot rate at those flicks but me 7% maybe im iron 2 and hes silver 1
The power of rush A
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Your laugh reminds me of jimmy carr
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Fakeananas on skye on his team
nats has already explained this smoke and he said diffrent things ur recycling content
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