You asked all the right questions. I think this podcast was done very well - no interruptions, you gave him the space to speak and it was insightful. Thanks for sharing
I found Maria's "independent strong woman" stance while at the same time saying that being seen in public paying for a couple's expense would shock her mother (and thus was a bad thing) to be confusing. She was obviously stepping way out of her cultural upbringing to be on the show and I didn't understand what parts of her culture she wanted to keep and honor and what parts she would be willing to compromise on. I found their breakup sad bc I think they actually made a good couple. Tom needed Maria's bright, shining personality and Maria needed Tom's grounded, good provider qualities. I wish they could have worked through their issues with a therapist and not made a snap, quick decision in a few weeks. As icky as Tom's judgement was about her career, it was his neurotic issue, as he admits, based on his childhood scarcity, and a therapist could have helped Maria with her anger over those comments. Oh well.....
The "who's paying" thing was dumb. As a working woman I also offer as Jemma does. You can decide there. I did like Tom and Maria. They would have worked through their differences if he made the commitment. But he overthinks things.
I think the comments are a bit harsh, he's not cheap for letting a woman buy him an ice cream. I don't know why that was ever made into a big deal. And I agree that doing something like buying a drink or an ice cream after someone buys you a meal shows your appreciation.
There is a podcast where Maria explain the context of what happened. To be honest my view was similar to urs but after hearing the contexts. U will understand he is CHEAP
He claims equality in a society in which there is no such a thing. Will he put his work in second place if they have children and some kid needs special attention? Gender equality can only be possible, at some extent, if the couple does not have children. Besides, Maria claimed having a figure of a provider in order to build a family, which does mean she wouldn't work or contribute with the family's income. A lot of life lessons Tom needs to learn. He watched his mother struggle, he should want a different life to his partner.
not so cheap as she who refuse to pay him only an icecream. she is in London with a job not in a middle east Islamic country where women can't work nor drive nor have social connection,how dare she demand him to pay every for her ?did he owe her that??
I'm that kind of independent person, same tough upbringing that makes me terrified of depending on somebody completely. Have never had any issues having connections. It is true that I'm a lot more hesitant of huge commitments (buying property together, let alone children...)
I'd be happy being financially dependent on someone. I'm a 50 year old Nurse. Would have been 100% happy and fulfilled being a stay at home Mom. He needs to stop overthinking everything.
You wouldn't say the same if you actually lived it , haven't you seen those ex trad wives videos? Why would you want to depend on someone financially? do you feel comfortable asking for money to buy pads?
Why do some guys hate women? Meanwhile, they are willing to pay all kinds of stuff to his friends. He doesn't want a partner, he wants someone to take the overload of a posh life behind his back, by paying half of the ticket.
yep pretty much. he's not rich but acts like it he just wants someone to add to his pockets to improve his lifestyle. He just doesnt have the money to support a family
When women choose a partner to marry and have a family with, we look for support. We need to feel fully safe and supported to be in the headspace to have kids. It doesn’t mean that a woman will never work a day in her life. Just that her husband can and will look after the family if shit hits the fan.
and support doesn't mean man shoul pay EVERYTING righ?unless she dont have a job and do all the housework ,so will maria quit her job after getting marrige
As a feminist, who despises the gender inequality, but respects chivalry in sense of the basic etiquette, Mr.Tom noone wants a cheap person, especially a man, regardless of cultural differences. And a man should pay or organize (money-free) the first few dates. Later on in the relationship - pays the one who has more funds.
starts with "despises the gender inequality" ends with stating expectations on men that clearly fall under gender roles and inequality. you can't fight for equality but demands certain things from men based on their gender... feminists want to have their cake and eat it too.
still better than a controlling freak like her who thinks everyone has to share the same opinion with her about how to rise children otherwise they are disrespecting her and her entire family.
not so cheap as she who refuse to pay him only an icecream. she is in London with a job not in a middle east Islamic country where women can't work nor drive nor have social connection,how dare she demand him to pay every for her ?did he owe her that??
He is not emotionally or financially able or committed to be a husband and should never have been on the show. Maria was just another option to find fault with in the end, just like all his other app dates.
If he is finding it harder to date now. He should rethink his view on things cos whether u want a 50/50 relationship. Women look at ur approach to it. And as someone who works in PR he know that Makeup artist make a lot of money.
You asked all the right questions. I think this podcast was done very well - no interruptions, you gave him the space to speak and it was insightful. Thanks for sharing
Thank you, really appreciate it 🫶🏼
I found Maria's "independent strong woman" stance while at the same time saying that being seen in public paying for a couple's expense would shock her mother (and thus was a bad thing) to be confusing. She was obviously stepping way out of her cultural upbringing to be on the show and I didn't understand what parts of her culture she wanted to keep and honor and what parts she would be willing to compromise on. I found their breakup sad bc I think they actually made a good couple. Tom needed Maria's bright, shining personality and Maria needed Tom's grounded, good provider qualities. I wish they could have worked through their issues with a therapist and not made a snap, quick decision in a few weeks. As icky as Tom's judgement was about her career, it was his neurotic issue, as he admits, based on his childhood scarcity, and a therapist could have helped Maria with her anger over those comments. Oh well.....
I completely agree!
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The "who's paying" thing was dumb. As a working woman I also offer as Jemma does. You can decide there.
I did like Tom and Maria. They would have worked through their differences if he made the commitment. But he overthinks things.
I think the comments are a bit harsh, he's not cheap for letting a woman buy him an ice cream. I don't know why that was ever made into a big deal. And I agree that doing something like buying a drink or an ice cream after someone buys you a meal shows your appreciation.
There is a podcast where Maria explain the context of what happened.
To be honest my view was similar to urs but after hearing the contexts. U will understand he is CHEAP
He claims equality in a society in which there is no such a thing. Will he put his work in second place if they have children and some kid needs special attention? Gender equality can only be possible, at some extent, if the couple does not have children. Besides, Maria claimed having a figure of a provider in order to build a family, which does mean she wouldn't work or contribute with the family's income. A lot of life lessons Tom needs to learn. He watched his mother struggle, he should want a different life to his partner.
He didn’t even buy her dinner. On their fast date he asked her to cover the bill. It’s so cheap.
not so cheap as she who refuse to pay him only an icecream. she is in London with a job not in a middle east Islamic country where women can't work nor drive nor have social connection,how dare she demand him to pay every for her ?did he owe her that??
funny u can easily accept such inequality when it benefits u women
i think he is 50/50 guy and he should look for someone similar ideas.
I still think he wasnt serious about getting married, even if he matched perfectly.
Jemma - you ask really great and well structured questions.
Thank you, that’s very kind xx
A hyper independent person like this will always find it hard to have a true connection
I'm that kind of independent person, same tough upbringing that makes me terrified of depending on somebody completely. Have never had any issues having connections. It is true that I'm a lot more hesitant of huge commitments (buying property together, let alone children...)
@@nm2064 there’s a difference between being independent and hyper independent which turns you emotionally avoidant xx
I'd be happy being financially dependent on someone. I'm a 50 year old Nurse. Would have been 100% happy and fulfilled being a stay at home Mom.
He needs to stop overthinking everything.
You wouldn't say the same if you actually lived it , haven't you seen those ex trad wives videos? Why would you want to depend on someone financially? do you feel comfortable asking for money to buy pads?
If he wants a career woman, no one will ever be home.Not much intimacy, connection or family life
you do know that career women, do go home right? Their residency is not at their place of work
I think you've been in PR too long Tom. Make the best choice you can & commit to someone who is committed to you. Only then can you build from there.
He’s a good guy and I still think Tom and Tasha would have been great for each other.
I still can’t believe they didn’t get married
Tashia dont want 50/50 either nor is attracted to him. Watch her interviews.
Why do some guys hate women? Meanwhile, they are willing to pay all kinds of stuff to his friends. He doesn't want a partner, he wants someone to take the overload of a posh life behind his back, by paying half of the ticket.
yep pretty much. he's not rich but acts like it he just wants someone to add to his pockets to improve his lifestyle. He just doesnt have the money to support a family
He’ll have to create his own Eve from scratch. Good luck.
When women choose a partner to marry and have a family with, we look for support. We need to feel fully safe and supported to be in the headspace to have kids. It doesn’t mean that a woman will never work a day in her life. Just that her husband can and will look after the family if shit hits the fan.
and support doesn't mean man shoul
pay EVERYTING righ?unless she dont have a job and do all the housework ,so will maria quit her job after getting marrige
so do men and its obviously "paying everything " is nothing similar to "support"
men will do housework if it hits his fan too,typical feminist double standards crap
You do know that these kids will be raised by both father and mother right?
He def has daddy issues
As a feminist, who despises the gender inequality, but respects chivalry in sense of the basic etiquette, Mr.Tom noone wants a cheap person, especially a man, regardless of cultural differences.
And a man should pay or organize (money-free) the first few dates. Later on in the relationship - pays the one who has more funds.
Yasssssss🎉
starts with "despises the gender inequality" ends with stating expectations on men that clearly fall under gender roles and inequality. you can't fight for equality but demands certain things from men based on their gender... feminists want to have their cake and eat it too.
Nah, he said upfront he wants an equal partner. Which feminist has a problem with that 🙄.
@@regularity2556 an equal partner who pays for his mortgage 😂 hes just super cheap
@@ngue631pays to live in someone's house is fine.
There’s something about him that I don’t feel genuine… I think he is really superficial. Idk I might be wrong, just catch that vibe from him
Same!
I found him such a cheap somehow
still better than a controlling freak like her who thinks everyone has to share the same opinion with her about how to rise children otherwise they are disrespecting her and her entire family.
not so cheap as she who refuse to pay him only an icecream. she is in London with a job not in a middle east Islamic country where women can't work nor drive nor have social connection,how dare she demand him to pay every for her ?did he owe her that??
He is not emotionally or financially able or committed to be a husband and should never have been on the show. Maria was just another option to find fault with in the end, just like all his other app dates.
If he is finding it harder to date now. He should rethink his view on things cos whether u want a 50/50 relationship. Women look at ur approach to it.
And as someone who works in PR he know that Makeup artist make a lot of money.
he's just cheap AF😂
Tom pleaaase... Spare us, it's getting boring atp
Way too many visual effects in the first few minutes
It still got you to click and watch 😏
@@_jemma_p not disputing the content, more the visuals. Keep it up 👍
Zzzzzz are we talking about work or love is blind 😴😴😴😴
This isn’t the kind of channel for ‘tea’ I’m afraid 😌 but the chapters in the description should help if you really want to pick a side.
He’s just a snooze. I can’t imagine why he’d have 2 options from the pods lol.
Im glad no one will date him
don't think he would care because the dates with women benefit him nothing.more and more men choose to be on their own though