@@bobamoko I thought that but right at the end when he leans back you can see the selector is in the mid position. The difference sounds pretty huge to me
Could you compare the Fusion 2 HH with the Fusion 2 HSH? It would be interesting to hear the Roswell LAF (Fusion 2 HH) compared to the HAF (Fusion 2 HSH).
I find the LAFs to be good vintage sound pickups. The HAFs are supposed to be higher output, but I don't find much difference. Actually they just seem characterless when clean out overdriven and not very distinct (notes merge into each other) when playing distorted or high gain
Because I have a strat style guitar already I would really love to get the T style Harley Benton but with the metallic turquoise colour of the strat! It is just beautiful, the top colour, the body colour and the back maple neck colour, just gorgeous and top quality. Thanks for posting.
I like your channel style. The T style has that belly cut, carve on the neck/body joint and the tremelo.... and the splitable humbuckers. It draws my attention a bit harder than the Suhr Pete model. I do have both of these in my cart on Thomann... along with a dozen more guitars. I have 4 HB's and that is almost half my collection, so i maybe should not get a 5th? At least i have tamed that urge for now. Not a fan of the bland black guitars, but the black just looks brilliant in combination with the dark cherry/maroon type back.
One big difference to me is the scalloped contour at the cut out of the Tele for easy comfortable access to the upper frets! I order the T HH HT EB BK or Hard Tail Version of this guitar today!
In the first side by side, I heard a difference between the Tele and the Strat. I don't know if it's the Tele twang that somebody else suggested, but I can hear a difference in the Tele. Otherwise, they sound very similar to me.
Both nice guitars, the T is brighter and nicer colour imo, but the selector switch is too close to the strings, so akward to operate. Thanks for the comparison Tony! Play and stay safe!
From Leo: They are the same to me. The sound quality is the same. Both are great, between the two I would go with the green one, simply because of the color.
I would like the green one but after watching Agufish's demos of the latest 'T' style I have to say that the hardtail sounds the best. I was surprised, it just has a fuller and richer sound, more oomph (technical term, haha). So I'd love to own both, possibly both in metallic green, but would probably get the hardtail Fusion-T first. I love the one with the roasted maple neck but the veneer on the body puts me off, I think a different (preferably darker) coloured top would be an improvement. If it had the roasted maple neck and either the metallic green or the silver sparkle, then that would be awesome.
Hi Tony, they both sounded great and thanks for the video! I am a Strat player, I always founded the Strat shape with its belly cut and elbow carve very confortable, it fits like a glove.The T style was always a bit awkward for me, having said that, the HB T style has a belly carve... I just might have to try it!
Big difference that would come out in a band mix.... for a lot of pop, Indie and ambient music, the Tele will do it for you. The Pete Thorn copy on the other hand I think sounds best for rock especially for fusion overdriven, and modern country
There's an obious difference even with cheap headphones. The strat has a more consistent sound, the high and low frequncies are much tighter and present. The telecaster has a flatter sound, more mids. Did you check the wirings in both guitars? You might have some differences there also.
No question, I want the green one. And I want the Strat'-like shape (not quite a strat', really). I wouldn't even think a minute. But I already have two with the same pick-ups and I won't have a third one. Actually, I'll very probably end up selling the SC-450 Plus because I can't be bothered with the Les Paul shape (clumsy thing).
Hey Tony, thank you for all your videos. Do you think it would be of any value to hear what different guitars sound like unamplified, what the pickups might be working with to start with as a way of knowing how much different guitar configurations and woods have to do with tone as opposed to just what the pickups get from mostly the magnetic sense of the strings? How much of what's there to begin with in terms of sound can the pickups translate to sound to the amp?
I think its always a good idea to listen to the guitar unamplified so you can determine the level of resonance and natural sustain the guitar has. I think that sustain will be quite noticeable no matter what pickups are in the guitar. To me that is a more important factor of the guitar because pickups can always be changed if you don't like the tone but if a guitar is dead unplugged there is little you can do about that later.
Sapele is often substituted for mahogany. Even manufacturers like Martin have used it in their mahogany body acoustics. Sapele is becoming more used because it is very similar to mahogany, but is faster growing and a more sustainable wood.
Mahogany is a very broad species denomination. Variations between regions, climates and even trees can be so significant that no generalisation can be made. Whenever wood makes a difference (and it does in acoustic guitars), it is still very much on a case by case basis. Even the top of a tree is less dense than its base.
I like the stratocaster design more but regarding the sound, I think I liked telecaster slightly better. With gain they both sound identical to me. I only noticed a difference only in clean sound. Tele seems like it has a slightly richer, with more depth/bass tone while stratocaster was a bit sharper. Not an expert here, just a personal opinion. I wanted to buy one of these and I was confused what were the differences. Thanks for doing this video. :)
Spot on. That’s exactly what my ear told me … the tele was a bit brighter clean, but with gain, I couldn’t hear a noticeable difference. The tele looks better too. At the price point, they are both a real bargain.
I own and play both (real American ones), so I'm not biased one way or another. The strat one sounds brighter. It all depends on what music you're playing, so I don't favor one over the other. I just feel like the tele one looks cooler.
I would not buy two different style guitars with basically the same neck and electronics unless I was planning to either return (or sell) one or replace the pickups on one or both. But that's just me. Also, while it looks great on a PRS, I greatly dislike the cutout on this T style guitar. But it's nice of you to showcase each of them so consumers can make a choice. To my ear they sound pretty darn close. One thing I did perceive, however, is that it sounded like you had more reverb (or something) dialed in on your Amp when you played the T style.
Good idea to compare those two little rattles... I am thinking about those two in particular, but having the need to go in drop D quite a few time, I'm looking more at the telly wit fixed bridge... By the way, do you (or some other who got the telly) find the tele's pick up selector position annoying for your picking hand movements?
Tele has more treble on clean,i like it better,but on overdrive that difference is not big that much.I would buy tele also because of how it looks,split coils in knobs is much more acceptable to me than toggle switch.So yeah, tele all thw wah.
Most important difference... Weight... The fusion in some models also use sapele. Also the switch location is either important or extremely important to some. Personally I am waiting for some better looking finishes...
The tele sounded a little brighter . But I’ve read That the sapele wood is harder and more dense than regular mahogany , so that may make it sound a little brighter .
I watched one of your older guitar reviews of the Squire Vintage Vibe 50's Tele. I bought one as the result, if I were you I would be on the phone with Fender asking them, Where's my commission......LOL
S type slightly "darker" - which I liked. I do think that the P'up switch on the T type is a little too close to the strings, is all. I'm British but live in the 'States. I'd be happier is Thomann distribute them here from here and not have to order them from Germany and pay through the nose for additional shipping, specially after the Corona Virus thing.... I'm sure it is affecting sales here in the USA Thanks, Pete.
7:12 both PUs II, 7:28 both PUs T
7:42 bridge II, 7:56 bridge T
8:10 neck II, 8:39 neck T
8:20 split neck II, 8:49 split neck T
Great comparison of these two beautiful guitars. Love that Tele-style Harley Benton!
None is worse than the other both sounded great
Love the tele colour and look
Great as always. Clear, Concise and to the Point.
Love & Blessings.
Jimmy in NC....
Nice one Tony, Sapele is a type of Mahogany, like them both but prefer the T style, great price as well....
The first sound clip you could really hear that tele twang vs the strat style. Everything after that I thought they sounded really close.
One is actually brighter than the other. Its subtle but its there.
How can it possibly have a Tele twang. Other than body shape there is nothing Tele about it. Even Fender Tele's with HB's don't have "Tele Twang".
Definitely some twangly tendencies there, oddly enough.
How strange.
Only the bridge pickup is selected on the tele. On the strat it's an intermediate position
@@bobamoko I thought that but right at the end when he leans back you can see the selector is in the mid position. The difference sounds pretty huge to me
what happened to opening them up to see the electronics etc?
Could you compare the Fusion 2 HH with the Fusion 2 HSH? It would be interesting to hear the Roswell LAF (Fusion 2 HH) compared to the HAF (Fusion 2 HSH).
I find the LAFs to be good vintage sound pickups. The HAFs are supposed to be higher output, but I don't find much difference. Actually they just seem characterless when clean out overdriven and not very distinct (notes merge into each other) when playing distorted or high gain
Thanks for this. I prefer the presence of the Tele version.
One deciding factor could also be that the super strat has Floyd Rose variants, while the T-style has hardtail versions.
Do you prefer the split coil on this model or the split coil with the tone knob on the new model.??
Because I have a strat style guitar already I would really love to get the T style Harley Benton but with the metallic turquoise colour of the strat!
It is just beautiful, the top colour, the body colour and the back maple neck colour, just gorgeous and top quality.
Thanks for posting.
Barry that would be a great choice! These guitars are great!
I like your channel style.
The T style has that belly cut, carve on the neck/body joint and the tremelo.... and the splitable humbuckers. It draws my attention a bit harder than the Suhr Pete model. I do have both of these in my cart on Thomann... along with a dozen more guitars. I have 4 HB's and that is almost half my collection, so i maybe should not get a 5th? At least i have tamed that urge for now. Not a fan of the bland black guitars, but the black just looks brilliant in combination with the dark cherry/maroon type back.
The black is a beauty! Thanks brother. 🎶🎵🎸🎶
One big difference to me is the scalloped contour at the cut out of the Tele for easy comfortable access to the upper frets! I order the T HH HT EB BK or Hard Tail Version of this guitar today!
Hows the neck thickness?
@@musabnorhamidi3262 Very Nice not a baseball bat at all!
In the first side by side, I heard a difference between the Tele and the Strat. I don't know if it's the Tele twang that somebody else suggested, but I can hear a difference in the Tele. Otherwise, they sound very similar to me.
I would not call it a Telecaster twang at all but its clearly brighter sounding to me.
Both nice guitars, the T is brighter and nicer colour imo, but the selector switch is too close to the strings, so akward to operate. Thanks for the comparison Tony! Play and stay safe!
Fair enough!
From Leo: They are the same to me. The sound quality is the same. Both are great, between the two I would go with the green one, simply because of the color.
I have the strat style Fusion II in black. These two guitars are essentially the same and they are both great deals.
I would like the green one but after watching Agufish's demos of the latest 'T' style I have to say that the hardtail sounds the best. I was surprised, it just has a fuller and richer sound, more oomph (technical term, haha). So I'd love to own both, possibly both in metallic green, but would probably get the hardtail Fusion-T first. I love the one with the roasted maple neck but the veneer on the body puts me off, I think a different (preferably darker) coloured top would be an improvement. If it had the roasted maple neck and either the metallic green or the silver sparkle, then that would be awesome.
Same. Would get a hard tail roasted neck black or green. The finish on the natural looks cheap.
I'd love a hard tail version of the fusion 2, and maybe the green body with black headstock.
My sapele Martin acoustic sounds great! Another great vid Tony, thanks!
Oh, btw I preferred the Tele on riff #1. Harder to pic on the others.
Rock on!
Hi Tony, they both sounded great and thanks for the video! I am a Strat player, I always founded the Strat shape with its belly cut and elbow carve very confortable, it fits like a glove.The T style was always a bit awkward for me, having said that, the HB T style has a belly carve... I just might have to try it!
You can't go wrong with either one IMO
@@addictedtogear hi, is the switch too close to bridge? I'm beginner, such instrument choise better on this price? Model or pickups?
I like both. They are very nice. Good stuff. ❤️😎👍👌💯🎸🎸
Big difference that would come out in a band mix.... for a lot of pop, Indie and ambient music, the Tele will do it for you. The Pete Thorn copy on the other hand I think sounds best for rock especially for fusion overdriven, and modern country
Really love your videos. Hows the neck thickness compared to other guitars?
The neck on these is very comfortable. I would say they have a nice modern feel to them.
There's an obious difference even with cheap headphones. The strat has a more consistent sound, the high and low frequncies are much tighter and present. The telecaster has a flatter sound, more mids. Did you check the wirings in both guitars? You might have some differences there also.
I will have a look at the wiring and get back to you. Tune in tomorrow morning. I may have some news.
Is it really a tele type guitar if it doesn’t have single coil pups? Same can be
Said for the stray style guitar.
I don't consider either of them true strat or tele guitars even with the split-coil options.
No question, I want the green one. And I want the Strat'-like shape (not quite a strat', really). I wouldn't even think a minute. But I already have two with the same pick-ups and I won't have a third one. Actually, I'll very probably end up selling the SC-450 Plus because I can't be bothered with the Les Paul shape (clumsy thing).
It's a pretty cool guitar overall. Dollar for dollar you couldn't ask for more.
Awesome guitars man
hello!
can you make a comparison of harley benton cst-24 abd fusion T HH
thanks..
Unfortunately I don't have the CST-24. Thanks for watching!
The only issue I have with most coil splits is the pickup sounds weak with a very noticeable volume drop
Yes this is the weakpoint with split coil systems
Hey Tony, thank you for all your videos. Do you think it would be of any value to hear what different guitars sound like unamplified, what the pickups might be working with to start with as a way of knowing how much different guitar configurations and woods have to do with tone as opposed to just what the pickups get from mostly the magnetic sense of the strings? How much of what's there to begin with in terms of sound can the pickups translate to sound to the amp?
I think its always a good idea to listen to the guitar unamplified so you can determine the level of resonance and natural sustain the guitar has. I think that sustain will be quite noticeable no matter what pickups are in the guitar. To me that is a more important factor of the guitar because pickups can always be changed if you don't like the tone but if a guitar is dead unplugged there is little you can do about that later.
Why do you think so few reviewers do that?
@@addictedtogear
Robert Whyte not sure?
Sapele is often substituted for mahogany. Even manufacturers like Martin have used it in their mahogany body acoustics. Sapele is becoming more used because it is very similar to mahogany, but is faster growing and a more sustainable wood.
Mahogany is a very broad species denomination. Variations between regions, climates and even trees can be so significant that no generalisation can be made. Whenever wood makes a difference (and it does in acoustic guitars), it is still very much on a case by case basis. Even the top of a tree is less dense than its base.
I like the stratocaster design more but regarding the sound, I think I liked telecaster slightly better.
With gain they both sound identical to me. I only noticed a difference only in clean sound.
Tele seems like it has a slightly richer, with more depth/bass tone while stratocaster was a bit sharper.
Not an expert here, just a personal opinion.
I wanted to buy one of these and I was confused what were the differences.
Thanks for doing this video. :)
Agree with your opinion.
I would go with Fusion T.
I'm glad it was helpful for you!
Spot on. That’s exactly what my ear told me … the tele was a bit brighter clean, but with gain, I couldn’t hear a noticeable difference. The tele looks better too. At the price point, they are both a real bargain.
The only problem of the tele is the position of the volume... the whammy bar doesn't let you reach it easily...
I own and play both (real American ones), so I'm not biased one way or another. The strat one sounds brighter. It all depends on what music you're playing, so I don't favor one over the other. I just feel like the tele one looks cooler.
Nice comparison. I would like more than Tele sound for me
Have both of them the same accessibility to the lower frets?
yes they do
T style all the way here. I actually have the Fusion T ordered but it is out of stock now and i gotta way a few weeks. I am so jelly.
im from the u.s how can i get one thanks for your time!
@@ljkj63 just order it from the official Thomann website, they ship in US too
because u cant get it in the u.s ?
Hi! Is the proximity of the sensor to the strings?
I would not buy two different style guitars with basically the same neck and electronics unless I was planning to either return (or sell) one or replace the pickups on one or both. But that's just me. Also, while it looks great on a PRS, I greatly dislike the cutout on this T style guitar. But it's nice of you to showcase each of them so consumers can make a choice. To my ear they sound pretty darn close. One thing I did perceive, however, is that it sounded like you had more reverb (or something) dialed in on your Amp when you played the T style.
The T style guitar is actually brighter for some reason. I noticed when I compared them both. The settings where identical.
Fusion 2 the Best
Nice Job
THX
Good idea to compare those two little rattles... I am thinking about those two in particular, but having the need to go in drop D quite a few time, I'm looking more at the telly wit fixed bridge...
By the way, do you (or some other who got the telly) find the tele's pick up selector position annoying for your picking hand movements?
Great point! I think I did mention this in the video. It is a little akward!
Tele has more treble on clean,i like it better,but on overdrive that difference is not big that much.I would buy tele also because of how it looks,split coils in knobs is much more acceptable to me than toggle switch.So yeah, tele all thw wah.
All the ebony neck guitars I have had have been dark with no grain showing.The Strat
Style looks more like Rosewood.
You probably talking about the fingerboard, not the neck
Thanks for the vidio,is the necks and
Nut size the same thanks
They are as far as I can tell. The neck seem identical in shape.
Thank you
Thanks
The tele sounded a bit dull when played clean. Maybe older strings?
could be but I would be surprised!
I love a Strat but I think the T-style sounded better 🤠🎵🎶
thank you!
You're welcome!
How might I acquire one? Link or store anyone?
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the strat sounds a little darker than the tele i heard its because the strat headstock is bigger.
therefore changing the tone. matter of preference.
to me..the tele one sounds a little more tinny..but not much
Yes it is a little more bright.
yep its the tele for me.
7:30 Here the sound sounds completely different than if you had chosen a different setting!
I would wish the strat one would come with a hardtail
Most important difference... Weight... The fusion in some models also use sapele. Also the switch location is either important or extremely important to some. Personally I am waiting for some better looking finishes...
I like the finishes they have now but I do agree that more color choices would be nice to have.
Two nice guitars :)
There is a set screw to stop that vib arm from wagging in the wind...
That rock riff was class, what was it,?
Which one? I was just noodling
@@addictedtogear the rocky one not the clean sound 👍
@@nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 It was just a riff I made up.
I never understood the deal with the harley benton "Ebony" fretboards. This does not look like ebony, not even close
That is what I said but I've been told this is what ebony looks like in its raw state. What do I know?
jimmy t ebony differs in colour depending on where in the tree it is from. Centre = black. Outer core = lighter colour wood
The tele sounded a little brighter . But I’ve read That the sapele wood is harder and more dense than regular mahogany , so that may make it sound a little brighter .
🤣🤣🤣
Tone wood is a myth.
Differences comes from the pickups and your mind
I watched one of your older guitar reviews of the Squire Vintage Vibe 50's Tele. I bought one as the result, if I were you I would be on the phone with Fender asking them, Where's my commission......LOL
Thanks for that. I will have my people call their people LOL
No difference aside from looks
me too !!!!!!
Why would we be bored watching your videos ?
Tele style sound brighter, strat style darker,for hard rock strat style metal player strat better choice.
S type slightly "darker" - which I liked. I do think that the P'up switch on the T type is a little too close to the strings, is all. I'm British but live in the 'States. I'd be happier is Thomann distribute them here from here and not have to order them from Germany and pay through the nose for additional shipping, specially after the Corona Virus thing.... I'm sure it is affecting sales here in the
USA Thanks, Pete.
Thet thar tele sounded muddy as fuck.......
Tele for me
Both are made out of sapele. :)
Not according to the specs on the website.
@@addictedtogear that's strange. It say sapele on thomann web page.