Using Phones with No-SIM Cards and Other Privacy Experiments
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2021
- We will test out various technologies that allow us to communicate on the phone without using a SIM card -- in other words, no cell service. We will also check out other solutions like VoIP.
This will result in several privacy and security benefits. We will discuss the advantages and disadvantages of using a De-Googled phone without a SIM card, an LTE Modem/Router, a VoIP Hardware solution, and a VPN router.
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Products discussed in this video:
Netgear M1 Mobile Hotspot 4G LTE Router MR1100-100NAS
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Ooma Telo Air 2 (with Handset)
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De-Googled Phones and BraxRouter (My Store)
brax.me
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Rob thank you for showing us the latest threats to our privacy. You are a good man in a time where there's few left. I really appreciate your work 😎
Agreed!!
Where's your donation?
@@Mr.Robert1 Rob's social network is Brax.me where you can look in the STORE for a place to donate directly to Rob.
Brax. me only requires a password and username for signup. (Your email will never get nagged if you choose to provide it to Brax.me for account recovery purposes.)
So glad someone is taking the time and effort to educate the public about these issues and optional alternatives. Thanks
A very lucid, articulate and elaborate presentation. Loved it.
Glad you liked it!
@mark traver thank you for sharing your thanks.
@Z1 So basically if you don't care about phone service, just using a mobile router with a simless phone will go a long way to making you private.
Every video is presented as such. He's great.
I've learned so much on this channel! Thank you.
Always a massive wealth of important info. Our privacy is an inherent right & should be recognized as such
Very professional! Shows pros and cons for each device! Few people are that professional! Well done!
Wow. I just learned so much today. This was a very well thought out video. I appreciate your work you put into this. Thank you.
Excellent video! easy to follow, everything explained and understandable, with in depth review of pro's & con's. Much respect to you my friend! I appreciate all the content you publish. time to get myself one of your de-googled phones!
When the numbers are low you know the video will be filled with lots of great information. It's funny how some of the most informative videos are the ones that nobody watched.
I cannot predict what video will get high numbers. The algorithm decides that. To be honest it's not obvious to me what it is doing.
Or the ones that UA-cam says weren’t watched much.
UA-cam definitely alters views and likes/dislikes. Watch anything involving a certain political figure selected for removal, and you will see this.
Slow down q.
People are lazy and don’t watch for learning unless it’s something easy they don’t really want to figure out themselves
Rob:
You are a brilliant guy who understands this technology and can explain it to us mortal humans. Thanks for your service to everyone valuing privacy! - Jim
Wow this is just what I was trying to figure out it seems you covered my question for the most part years ago lol. Thanks for all that you do and please keep up the great work.
I would be very interested in seeing a video that discusses solutions and various possible set-ups for people choosing to use old, no-internet, flip phone. So only having a computer at home and using it as the only internet connection, in today's world. I'm in France and many people are choosing to not have a smartphone at all.
Of course, keep in mind that buying this set of devices on the internet will make you identifiable as part of a small group of people who have the ability (and presumably intention) to make this kind of call. That alone could lead to more active surveillance.
...unless you live in an "off grid" type of situation that justifies it in a practical way.
Need to rotate all of these solutions.
I word: cash.
Thanks so much Rob for the super interesting & informative video. It was really a worthwhile watch.
Brilliant video Rob, absolutely brilliant!!
Much of this video was involved with how to use a phone with privacy, which I'm not interested in. Haven't used a phone in years. But lots of good info. Thanks.
Love that you are always thinking about this stuff. Thanks
"Too big for pocket use". HA! Let me introduce you to cargo pants, my friend! 😁
Ikr! I was like " why does he wear skinny jeans!
lol
Or you could do what I do & Extend the size of my pockets.
I essentially just cut the seams on inside of my pockets &resew it W/ a Zipper.
&Outside of the Default Pocket I make a larger enclosed pocket area, I can access if I need more room.
(&Not if I don't wanna have 2reach down 2my knees too retrieve my phone or whateverrr)
I also wear Cargo Pants tho actually.. I just modify them like thatt ha
Here ! Here !
Girls don't wear cargo pants.
I don't know how you can remember all this stuff and have it at your fingertips - I never could. I guess you must be an olympic standard tech guy. Thanks Man
everyone who makes high content videos has it planned out what they're going to say, probably written in notes they can use like a tele-prompter. But yes, Rob KNOWS all this stuff!
Complex, but WELL DONE! Many options, and thanks much for sharing! CHeers! :)
Great video rob, once again great content...
One of your best and most useful videos.
Robb, thanks again. I wish I understood more of your instructions, but I'm from dayton.
1:00 Netgear M1
2:36 different threats
3:25 Degoogled phone - list of attack
10:32 you can’t hide with this device
11:02 beam forming
11:51 police
Thank you UA-cam. GREAT channel! THANKS ROB!
A pillar of freedom! thank you
When I was young, I got an unlocked phone with the idea of getting service later. I never bothered - and with all the tracking, battery drain and problems it causes, now I'm proud to use airplane mode full-time.
so, why do you need that phone at all?
EDIT: I mean, what’s the point of buying a phone if you are never going to use it as a phone?
@@_sneer_ maybe as media device to play music and a camera. That's about it.
Calculator, Sound Meter, Torch, Clinometer, Camera, Music, Videos, and Wifi internet.
@@Ultrawide_Gameplays he could play music on a fiddle instead and paint pictures with a brush
i am always on airplane mode but when i dialed 911 i got connected despite my sim card was removed. i had to remove some apk app from my phone using adb command
You hae become one of main go-to guys when looking for anonmous/privacy tech info, me.
Great Information. Thank You for taking the time to make this video.
While no sim card will eliminate many ordinary cell interactions, I am pretty sure I doesn't preclude the baseband modem from communicating with cell towers or impersonators. For some time now I am living without carrying a device around.
Only a baseband with a SIM will have "interactions". So in this example, I isolated it to a dedicated Netgear which has no other function. This is explained in the last video on Backdoors
Nothing will ever be 100% secure ...
@@cmendoza1094 paranoia.
@@robbraxmantech I use my phones without simcard (exept 1 for communication only ) the others are regularly on the internet via wlan ..used for gaming and my android channel ..
If I talk about something privat I put the phones out of Listening reach ..cameras are glues shut .
I don't have any smart devices ..
I use a computer and some consoles but those are 90% of time unplugged and if on only used for gaming and yt too ...
I have never use online banking and don't buy stuff over the web ..
Those informations are well known which means its no problem to write here ..
What do you think ? Is that a at least considerable safe way to use big tech? Or am I totally wrong ?
@@AndroidFerret
I think the most practical approach is to both understand the threats and set goals according to them. There are things that are worth keeping out of "big tech" hands, and there are things big tech thinks are worth having but it is just collecting because it is a digital hoarder.
The system knows you exist. The various companies build profiles on everyone and they try to fill in data as they can. It is technically possible, for example, to use the FPGA on cell phones for speech to text and to be continually building an index of spoken terms and to trigger recording when a person's name comes up, then upload that to the dossier for processing.
There are all manner of ways of indirectly collecting information on people. That type of system could, at least in theory, be entirely automated by algos intended to fill dossiers using the means available. Most people don't understand the power in their phone.
It's exceptionally difficult to be completely outside the view of tech and it is best in my estimate to conserve that effort for things you want to be outside big tech.
For example, I bought a refrigerator one year and they ended up selling a model they no longer had, somehow, and refunded me the difference between it and the model I selected in cash (because of how the debit I paid in works). That cash conversion is completely outside banking records. It's an ATM withdrawl without an ATM record.
Cash-back can work in a similar manner, as far as bank records go.
That is cash the system doesn't know you have available. The same can be said for any personally sold items.
This cash can then go toward activities you'd prefer the system not have a record of.
Unless I have something specific to secure or need to be unfindable for a period of time, I tend to have a rather modest effort on avoiding tracking.
... there again, I have direct family with Yankee White clearances and others who have TS clearances who built a numer of ELINT systems (and some others). I have owls in my trees and sometimes I enjoy playing gross-out with them.
New subscriber, find your lectures very interesting and understandable and I appreciate you targeting the non-IT person.
Suggestion: when you consider VOIP devices there are those of us who want to connect it to a homes conventional telephone wiring and use conventional landline touchtone phones. Look for devices that supply dialtone and generate ringing current
(90v 20Hz).
Thank you for watching! When plug a standard phone into Telco wiring then that is straight voice into PSTN. It is not digital. So that is not VOIP. Only your telco can deal with that. VOIP is specifically about using the Internet.
@@robbraxmantech My current cable modem has a telephone wire that plugs into the wall. As a result any phone in my house connected via a standard telephone wire on the wall in each bedroom has the phone services channeled through the cable modem. I plug in standard phone into the wall; they have dial tone; but going over the cable modem. Isn't this setup called also called VOIP?
Really nice video. I didn't think about the portable router and degoogled phone running a VPN combo. That looks like a viable daily driver especially if you carry a backpack or tactical bag.
Paired with a small "solar generator" this could be a portable solution that works wherever a usable cell signal is available. A briefcase, bag, or backpack would be needed to carry it all, but all these devices could be built onto a board or backplane that would keep them tidy.
Oh yes. Oh yes. Beautifully done!
Wouldnt it be funny if there was a coordinated phone swap program where everyone in a city or state just swapped phones and kept pay the bills then the carriers wouldn't have a clue who had what phone lol. That would confuse the hell out of big tech, do the swap once a month and keep doing it until all their collected data is useless
great idea!! But someone would stop paying their bill on the phone you have when they lost or damaged the phone they happen to have. That might work better in a small town where everyone knows everyone else.
Excellent, not funny. It is going to take this kind of creative thinking to break the almost total control they now have of what are supposed to be OUR PERSONAL COMPUTERS!
@@mistyculous9644 , Or any network of people who can trust each other!
The biggest problem with this idea is that you'd have no idea what number to call to reach someone.
If you have several family members on the same plan, you could do this within your family. If you had say four phones of the same type, you could put a different colored case on each one, then send out a group text each day identifying which phone went with which person (using a private code to identify each person). The text could be something like "alpha-blue, bravo-orange, charlie-black, delta-green" and by that, you would know who was using each phone.
To further obscure the data, anytime you send a text message, send it to the group rather than an individual so that "they" don't know the intended recipient. Another idea is to add an extra phone or two to the plan, so not every phone is used by someone every day.
@@FarmRanchHomestead
If you have 6Family members on a Plan regardless if you switch phone or not the company will still have the names and information of those on the Plan.
Very relaxing to watch and hear.
Thanks Rob for the info. Very helpful.
Thank you Rob, excellent presentation. But even when you're sim & battery removed,that still can be tracked.
great video Rob! Thanks
Thank You so much! You are super intelligent Person/Educator!
SIM has to be the biggest backdoor that you have zero control over. I've been saying this since I first started watching your channel. SIMs are more often than not have your real world identity tied to them.
Just wait... TPM. It's the new SIM.... for your computer
I resub every time I see you in my feed 😂
Gods work good sir, and with good timing. THe only boomer on the internet who is tech savvy!!!
Amazing! I had no idea!
Have been using a lower end android phones without SIMs to store , 2FA apps and net banking stuff, etc. Something one can leave at home, find easily and use just when one needed and keep a bare minimum apps installed.... Less risk than keeping credentials on your "normal use" phone an less inconvenience if the normal use phone is lost.
Thanks Brax 😎🥂
Immensely informative!! #kudos
Thank you so much 😎
Greetings from Stockholm Sweden Europe
Greetings! Skol!
Your solutions always work,,thx
I rarely use my phone as an actual telephone. Usually only to call my wife about mundane stuff. I've got a Pinephone and really like it, minus a few issues. I dock it to a monitor and keyboard and use it at my workplace as a "stealth" personal computer (they would look at me funny if I lugged in my own personal laptop... but never notice a phone). The only problem I have with that is my Pinephone looses its data connectivity in that mode for some reason. (I don't connect it to the corporate WiFi -- that's the point using it). So I have to tether it to the Android phone I still carry. Hopefully soon I'll have a solution and I can switch the SIM back to the Pinephone. I actually watched this video and I'm commenting now using the Pinephone! (EDIT: Great video as usual, Rob!)
One thing you will notice is that you can call your wife using Signal and you won't even realize you're using signal.
Thumbs up and subscribed!
i used a magic jack when i lived in the Philippines so i would have a USA phone number. before i moved to Philippines i used a Vonage to talk to my Fiancee NO internet. previously used Skype but i thought that SUCKED!
i really enjoyed this video!
Hi, Rob 👋🏻 You Rock!
Well done, sir. Thank you.
Thank you great podcast. Kiwi NZ
Excellent advice.
Very interesting, good presentation.
Thank you, that was very interesting and informative.
Mr.H ® approved! 💪 Now you're speaking my language Roberto ❤️ 325k Subs???🤯 Whoa!
Have had Ooma for years. Use it for most of my calls. $6.00-month.
You are doing great work.. thank you
So nice of you
Rob thanks for this video, I noticed you mentioned Magic Jack. I used magic jack for years I never got one sales call on it. All these cell phones I am using I get many sales calls on them. I even use the call screen feature and the same number keeps calling me back. I just keep hitting the screen call option.
I use visible wireless as my internet. I tether my phone via usb to my ubuntu PC. I have an old wifi router that I connected my magic jack and wall phone to it. I have the magic jack app on my phone for when I am mobile. I really enjoyed your video. I just can't use a data only modem with visible wireless but it would make my setup even better than it is.
Good stuff. I think my next new phone will be a brax degoogled phone
awesome video, I have subscribed to your channel
I didnt have read someone saying anything about how to protect from pegasus on android. I will try no-SIM. Thank you
Interesting, great job, wish I knew more about Tech..
this channel is a really high-content place to learn a little bit at a time, if you're interested in stretching your brain.
Brilliant!
please review ghost phone e sim from MacAfee. your credibility and testing would be huge for the consumer
They still know where you are based on what tower the LTE connects to, and where your packets are being routed from, and if they know either endpoint of a communication, traffic analysis tells them the other endpoint, even if it's encrypted. You can bet there is traffic analysis happening around TOR nodes, etc.
The only way to obscure communications is an independent network which cannot be monitored, or an encrypted cloud which is constantly sending noise packets to all nodes so communication appears the same as no communication to traffic analysis.
Awesome advice
Boss thanks for helping everyone
Thank you, people/ brains like yours should be available commercially to people like me low tech ability and set up our private cyber desires
Come to Brax.me and get the low down from the rest of us who are congregated there to help the newbies.
Love you content.
Great information.
Its what I use. The M1 router, OTR mobile and an old android phone. Its my go to on the road setup.
It's always gratifying when someone else reinforces the advantages of what you've invented/put together on your own, isn't it?
Great job!
Any cheaper alternative for the netgear?
Thanks for sharing. COMMUNICATION IS TO LEARNING AS OXYGEN IS TO FIRE. REMEMBERING PROVERBS 4.
I am using a Google voip, Google voice, with a handset like the old days. It runs off of my wifi connection which I get from land to land receiver. This is because I live in a wifi reception hole that works just ok with a cell phone. Would the Google voice work as well as the omma? Not too tech savy so I don't think I get all the points you are making Rob.
keep it up CHAMP
@Rob Braxman Tech @ about 3:20 + you mention that the IMEI is not trackable but the IMEI is stored in and specific to each phone. Please clarify.
Good day sir, I just want to say thank you for all your efforts to inform us about the security challenges we face in the tech world these days. I have been interested in a "de-goggled" (intentional spelling, I seriously dislike google goggles) phone after watching your videos. My only question is if you know if anyone is working on a de-goggled handheld device that is equipped with a high-end camera and stylus? Really that's all I need. Thanks again for all you do. Shalom.
Please join the "Linux Chat" after joining Rob's social network and support site: Brax.me Or, you can ask your question again in the "New Users Lobby" once you get into Brax.me.
Thank you appreciate it
You can also use a VoIP using an ATA so tou can call your home phone, enter a PIN, you get a land line tone then make calls out anywhere you like.
I survived for decades without any smartphone and didn't die. Must still be possible to do so. Rob is really good with getting around the big tech spy networks. It's just gonna get harder to be connected to the Internet and use a cell phone without big brother knowing your every move.
I never needed a phone either, until once my car broke down in the late evening. I had a heck of a time finding a place to make a call to the repair shop.
Thank you!!
hey rob, u cant use voip with a vpn turned on, and u can use sms texting on the wireless router, u just need a pc or simless phone to access it.
Jovan Pulitzer explained the panopticon with phone apps and how you're being monitored through back doors installed on apps in your phone that can't be deleted. no matter what you try to do. You try turning off notifications
That's why you have to have a de-Googled phone. Not a regular phone
@@robbraxmantech im hoping to get one once my contract is up!!
@@robbraxmantech if you go to javon pulitzer's yt his video on a look behind the curtain. You get incredible insight on how apps are all connected. Jovan Pulitzer is the owner of cyber ninjas who currently just did the audit in Arizona. I think he invented barcodes or something.
@-WhiteFang- Look at the phones supported by the operating systems. Garbage in performance AND security. Why not a BlackBerry? I wonder.
Thank you Rob
Fantastic video
Great show thanks so much for the info. Have you tried the Freedom Cell yet? Cheers
he has a video on the phone you mentioned.
My carrier allows limited hotspot sharing, then throttles it back. I've been using my tablet as a hotspot until it runs out, then switching to my phone.
The limit on data usage directly from my phone or tablet is much higher.
So if I use the Netgear, does the cell phone company think it is hotspot sharing with the lower limit, or will it just be seen as if it were the tablet or cell phone data?
I'm interested in the Librem 5, bittium or metaZERO... just like lots of other folks, trying to get away from Apple/Google, perhaps de-Google phone is an option, but I'm very keen on the new blockchain phones coming out. I'm only just learning, any suggestions?? Thanks!!
Have been doing this (no simm in smartphone) since lockdown and discovering your channel/the depths of the data breaches. Still have sim in Nokia 8210 needed for business, don't miss the smartphone at all on road.
Having a SIM on a non-Smart phone is a great solution. If only we can easily find them for 4G
@@robbraxmantech very true mine is only 2g which is still fully available here in the UK. I was using the Nokia 106 still 2g before but the 8210 is last phone here before cell to cell tracking technology appeared.
8210 still work today? I mean still receive calls? If so with which carrier?
@@robbraxmantechwe have phones like nokia 215 4g and 105 4g, it has volte support
Thanks Rob.
Rob, what about just using a Blackberry. Sure with a SIM that security is lost but as to hacking and commercial tracking, isn't it pretty secure as the apps are limited and there is not Google Services running?
Rob (or anyone else) do you know anything about the blockchain phones? Decentralized? Is this not the way forward? Would love some thoughts ...
Just commenting before watching video
what do you think of Mobile Mesh devices like the Power Talkies, Gotenna or the Sonnet labs device?
Thank you!
Cool beans!
Thank You
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