I studied Virgil during grad school at the University of Texas at El Paso under Dr. Ortiz from 2018-2020. He was/is a phenomenal and impassioned professor who is an aficionado of Virgil and The Aeneid. I wrote my thesis on Dido! Great lesson! Thank you.
I love your lectures! I'm a stay-at-home mum of littlies, and just don't have access to not-woke universities where I live. I'm reading the great books to really give myself a deeper understanding of Western civilisation and my identity as a European Christian. Your work has been so helpful in filling the many gaps in my knowledge.
I've always circled back to your lectures the last several years when going to learning mythologies. Ive been l learning German recently and specifically why I am asking, the Niebelunglied. What would you consider the differences between the Greco-Roman (and thus Christian) and the Germans? I noticed deep fatalism and a cycle of violence. Where there is still agency, and Christianity free will, in the Greco Roman tradition, there is a deep fatalism in the Germans that hauts when reading. not just the Lay but their whole recorded sagas. It is hard for me as a meek nerd to navigate, but I just wanted to ask your insight because it hits hard in a way that I didnt expect. Also: The Carthaginians are Punics.
I think it's possible that Virgil was aware of the stories in the book of Numbers. Wasn't Moses the "the-anthropos" a background figure in greco-roman paganism?
Gosh, this sounds like such a relevant book. I get the feeling Luke and Paul might be familiar with this book? Though, I doubt the average Isralite in Judea would have read it. Interesting considering Jesus in the desert being tempted and the character being enticed by the gods. That passage probably has more to do with Genesis but there are tantalising parallels for a gentile reading the gospels.
Foundational mythology. Aeneas's foundation of Rome should be compared to Paul's foundation of Christianity in Rome. Acts. I'm saying they are both foundational myths.
@@LitProf I'm reading the end of Acts starting at chapter 20. My first 3 questions would be. Acts 20-5, why does the narrator switch to "we"? How do Homer and Virgil use "we" in voyages? Is Troas the same place as Troy? If so, is it a coincidence this "we" voyage starts in Troy and ends in Rome?
I studied Virgil during grad school at the University of Texas at El Paso under Dr. Ortiz from 2018-2020. He was/is a phenomenal and impassioned professor who is an aficionado of Virgil and The Aeneid. I wrote my thesis on Dido! Great lesson! Thank you.
I love your lectures! I'm a stay-at-home mum of littlies, and just don't have access to not-woke universities where I live. I'm reading the great books to really give myself a deeper understanding of Western civilisation and my identity as a European Christian. Your work has been so helpful in filling the many gaps in my knowledge.
Very pleased to hear that. You’re one of the groups I most want to reach, so that the next generation is better equipped!
I've always circled back to your lectures the last several years when going to learning mythologies. Ive been l learning German recently and specifically why I am asking, the Niebelunglied.
What would you consider the differences between the Greco-Roman (and thus Christian) and the Germans? I noticed deep fatalism and a cycle of violence.
Where there is still agency, and Christianity free will, in the Greco Roman tradition, there is a deep fatalism in the Germans that hauts when reading. not just the Lay but their whole recorded sagas.
It is hard for me as a meek nerd to navigate, but I just wanted to ask your insight because it hits hard in a way that I didnt expect.
Also: The Carthaginians are Punics.
I think it's possible that Virgil was aware of the stories in the book of Numbers. Wasn't Moses the "the-anthropos" a background figure in greco-roman paganism?
Gosh, this sounds like such a relevant book.
I get the feeling Luke and Paul might be familiar with this book? Though, I doubt the average Isralite in Judea would have read it. Interesting considering Jesus in the desert being tempted and the character being enticed by the gods. That passage probably has more to do with Genesis but there are tantalising parallels for a gentile reading the gospels.
I think it is entirely likely that both are aware.
Foundational mythology. Aeneas's foundation of Rome should be compared to Paul's foundation of Christianity in Rome. Acts. I'm saying they are both foundational myths.
It depends what you mean by myths. The Book of Acts isn’t told as a mythological account.
St Paul's voyages more resemble Odysseus' but yeah, in effect, like Aeneas
@@ortchaaal I agree it's a Homeric model.
@@LitProf I think Acts is a foundational myth. What sources do you think the author of Luke-Acts had in front of him? Honest question.
@@LitProf I'm reading the end of Acts starting at chapter 20. My first 3 questions would be. Acts 20-5, why does the narrator switch to "we"? How do Homer and Virgil use "we" in voyages? Is Troas the same place as Troy? If so, is it a coincidence this "we" voyage starts in Troy and ends in Rome?