Agree that day was total carnage, just happy to make it out in one piece! That is me in the red C8 Z06 in your video, happy to see so many 4RS and 3RS on track. Hopefully the next event folks won't send it so hard.
Oh wow I didn't realize the red C8 was a Z06 - Should have looked closer! That is the first one I've seen in a run group I've been it. How do you like it and how are the lap times looking?
@@ItsTrackTime Easy to mistake my car as a C8 Stingray as it is a base Z06 without the aero so it looks similar. I'm a former 981 and 718 GT4 owner, and the C8 Z06 is much heavier, more difficult to drive, and has much less feel and balance than the Porsche GT cars. Still a ton of fun on track and has thankfully been reliable and no cooling issues like my previous C7 Z06. I'm amazed how many new 4RS and 3RS are out there now, very jelous of you all. I would love to have a GT4RS but couldn't stomach the ADM. My best lap time so far at COTA in the C8 Z06 is a 2:21 stock with only an alignment and 200TW tires, compared to a 2:25 in my 718 GT4 manual also with alignment and 200TW tires.
That explains why I didn’t recognize it - the rear wing was missing -- Running in stealth mode! You were flying out there, cutting through that train like it wasn’t even there. A 2:21 is an excellent time-I’d be thrilled with that on 200TW tires! When the C8 Z06 was announced, I was really interested, especially with the specs of that motor, but the weight was a dealbreaker. Once you’ve driven sub-3,000-pound cars, there’s no going back! When I’m learning tracks on iRacing, my go-to car is the C8.R. It feels a lot like the GT4 RS, but with even more power. With your driving skills, we’d gladly welcome you back if you ever decide to pick up another Porsche!
Agree on the weight, my Z06 is 3650 lbs and the extra mass is very noticeable on track. Would love to snag a GT4RS some day, I miss my GT4 being out on track with so many similar Porsche GT cars and running in groups. Epic 4RS you have with the full dundon setup! I drove a friends stock 4RS for a few laps and it was a riot and very fast, with mods they have got to be a ton of fun.
Such a great channel! Was in yellow group in the rain,total chaos - switching into red Sunday really helped. Supercars loafing the corners then blasting the straights is what frustrates me the most.
I have personally messed up in morning first session out past turn 3 into the gravel after passing a few cars on warmup lap. Over my head pushing the car without letting it settle before I hit the brakes, lucky I didn't end up in a barrier and was able to survive with just some tires with flat spots. Really humbling experience.
Yep, it happens to almost all of us. Live, learn, and be thankful you were on an F1 track with proper run-off areas. If you compare it to many other tracks across the country, where a mistake often means grass followed by Armco-and likely losing a car-you quickly realize how fortunate we are to be at an F1 facility.
The person I bought my BRZ from liked to use TiReLief valves to control tire pressure. One set of rims I got with my car was drilled for them, but then plugged because they didn't clear the brake rotors. I guess the idea is that you set the valve to crack open at a specific pressure. Then you just set your tires to that pressure, and go out, and as tire temps come up, the valve cracks open and keeps them bled to the set pressure. I have no idea if they're reliable or have any hassles (like getting them set right) associated with them, since I've never used them myself.
Interesting idea, but relying on a mechanical spring to release pressure correctly introduces another potential point of failure for the tire. Most of the expansion comes from water vapor inside the tires, so simply filling them with nitrogen eliminates that issue. I’d be more inclined to go that route if someone could handle delivering and removing the nitrogen bottle each weekend.
Hi, maybe you should try LAPOLE cam mount next time, which offers an over the shoulder view and includes a Catalyst cam adaptor. You don’t need to merge the videos and data cause its view/perspective is already perfect. Highly productive. My Catalyst was sold to friends 2years ago, but you can see how it looks with a GoPro in my channel. I am also a 4RS owner so I subscribed your channel from the beginning.
I'm running Hoosier R7s on the GT4 RS. While they're great, I actually preferred the Hankook Z214s in the same price range-but unfortunately, they don’t come in 20-inch sizes.
@ slightly loose right rear wheel hub generated unwanted additional movement on the wheel causing the rotors to push the pads off. I had slicks and a 300+ lbs passenger. You remember how the track was that day, I did not prime the brakes as I should have in those conditions. Braking zone right rear caliper did not grip causing uneven braking and car got loose in a threshold brake zone sliding around fast. I decided to let go the brakes for grip and take the turn faster than I should because she would not stop. I was already passing the dry zone. Passenger weight kicked in to the equation during the turn and added more weight to the chassis to lean right, which contributed to an uncontrolled split second slide. I felt the nose snapping to the inside wall of 11 and instinctively lifted very little and countered to correct the direction. Speed was potentially 20 mph more than I should have in that corner, figured I could counter again but good luck… The car reacted faster to my save attempt and spun the ass 180. We started sliding into the litter. COTA design did the job to save us. We were fine. 5 feet off the wall. Passenger was ok. Felt super bad for ruining the session. First ever session blowing incident for me at COTA between over 800 laps since I moved to Austin in 2021… Hopefully never again. Lessons learned.
Wow, great to hear you were both okay and that the runoff saved the car! As I’ve often said, we’re fortunate to run on an F1 track with proper F1 runoff areas. I had my brakes fail going into T11 recently when a carbon brake line was cut. Definitely got me looking into dual master braking systems. Thanks for sharing-we all learn from these incidents.
@@ItsTrackTime I picked up a GT4RS and a 765lt in 2024, great cars, I have not tracked them yet. My go to track car is my 992 GT3 which is a full dundon lab rat fitted car, and also my Radical SR3 which i also raced at two rounds. the 765lt, is a complete monster... I have driven a lot of cool stuff and capable cars, I would say the 765lt is the first car that puts a little fear in. It sure requires extra discipline and caution when driving some thing like with such power.
You have great taste in cars-a lot of variety! When you’re dealing with that much torque and power (765LT), it’s crucial to roll the power on smoothly, or things will go wrong very quickly. The computers in McLarens are excellent at keeping the car under control, so I wouldn’t turn them off unless I had *significant* experience with the car on track.
If they had you driving with windows up and using turn signals to indicate passing, these long trains wouldn’t be as much of an issue as having to point every single car by.
It ultimately comes down to the driver noticing a car approaching from behind and giving the point-by, whether with a turn signal or a hand out the window. The weak link is the driver, not the mechanism. Personally, I preferred driving on European tracks where passing is allowed without a point-by. It simply works better when everyone is competent and paying attention.
@ my experience at COTA with EA was similar. Most of my track experience in Europe was a lot better and not very often having to let people pass. But the windows down-point by rules in the States creates congestion easily, not to mention how annoying it is listening to wind at that high of speeds. Also the fact it seems no one treated the first lap as a warmup lap, which was quite frustrating having to point so many people by while I’m trying to warm the tires up and familiarize myself with the racing line.
Yep, many folks want to go hard on the very first lap and I just let them pass and then reel them back in when I'm up to temp. You can see how going hard on cold components didn't work out well for some of the drives in this video.
Agree that day was total carnage, just happy to make it out in one piece! That is me in the red C8 Z06 in your video, happy to see so many 4RS and 3RS on track. Hopefully the next event folks won't send it so hard.
Oh wow I didn't realize the red C8 was a Z06 - Should have looked closer!
That is the first one I've seen in a run group I've been it.
How do you like it and how are the lap times looking?
@@ItsTrackTime Easy to mistake my car as a C8 Stingray as it is a base Z06 without the aero so it looks similar. I'm a former 981 and 718 GT4 owner, and the C8 Z06 is much heavier, more difficult to drive, and has much less feel and balance than the Porsche GT cars. Still a ton of fun on track and has thankfully been reliable and no cooling issues like my previous C7 Z06. I'm amazed how many new 4RS and 3RS are out there now, very jelous of you all. I would love to have a GT4RS but couldn't stomach the ADM. My best lap time so far at COTA in the C8 Z06 is a 2:21 stock with only an alignment and 200TW tires, compared to a 2:25 in my 718 GT4 manual also with alignment and 200TW tires.
That explains why I didn’t recognize it - the rear wing was missing -- Running in stealth mode!
You were flying out there, cutting through that train like it wasn’t even there. A 2:21 is an excellent time-I’d be thrilled with that on 200TW tires!
When the C8 Z06 was announced, I was really interested, especially with the specs of that motor, but the weight was a dealbreaker.
Once you’ve driven sub-3,000-pound cars, there’s no going back!
When I’m learning tracks on iRacing, my go-to car is the C8.R. It feels a lot like the GT4 RS, but with even more power.
With your driving skills, we’d gladly welcome you back if you ever decide to pick up another Porsche!
Agree on the weight, my Z06 is 3650 lbs and the extra mass is very noticeable on track. Would love to snag a GT4RS some day, I miss my GT4 being out on track with so many similar Porsche GT cars and running in groups. Epic 4RS you have with the full dundon setup! I drove a friends stock 4RS for a few laps and it was a riot and very fast, with mods they have got to be a ton of fun.
Such a great channel! Was in yellow group in the rain,total chaos - switching into red Sunday really helped. Supercars loafing the corners then blasting the straights is what frustrates me the most.
Ha! Yep that happens a lot - Slow in the corners and then drag race you down the straight after giving a point by.
Thanks for watching!
Cool channel find! Love riding along for a track day in my dream car 👍
Great to hear you found us!
My virtual right seat is always open!
I have personally messed up in morning first session out past turn 3 into the gravel after passing a few cars on warmup lap. Over my head pushing the car without letting it settle before I hit the brakes, lucky I didn't end up in a barrier and was able to survive with just some tires with flat spots. Really humbling experience.
Yep, it happens to almost all of us. Live, learn, and be thankful you were on an F1 track with proper run-off areas.
If you compare it to many other tracks across the country, where a mistake often means grass followed by Armco-and likely losing a car-you quickly realize how fortunate we are to be at an F1 facility.
Glad you and Matt made it through the weekend clean. Sounded like a mess.
Yep, it was a chaotic weekend, but thankfully we got through it unscathed.
Wow that McLaren is toast good editing and good content. Is this the red group Advanced ? (Edge)
Yeah the McLaren driver walked away from a huge shunt - Very lucky.
This was the EA White group.
Epic content
Thank you😊
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video, how do you set up your cameras? Thanks
I use tow hook and roll bar mounts to set up four cameras in the car-five if I include the one mounted on my helmet
The person I bought my BRZ from liked to use TiReLief valves to control tire pressure. One set of rims I got with my car was drilled for them, but then plugged because they didn't clear the brake rotors. I guess the idea is that you set the valve to crack open at a specific pressure. Then you just set your tires to that pressure, and go out, and as tire temps come up, the valve cracks open and keeps them bled to the set pressure. I have no idea if they're reliable or have any hassles (like getting them set right) associated with them, since I've never used them myself.
Interesting idea, but relying on a mechanical spring to release pressure correctly introduces another potential point of failure for the tire. Most of the expansion comes from water vapor inside the tires, so simply filling them with nitrogen eliminates that issue. I’d be more inclined to go that route if someone could handle delivering and removing the nitrogen bottle each weekend.
Hi, maybe you should try LAPOLE cam mount next time, which offers an over the shoulder view and includes a Catalyst cam adaptor. You don’t need to merge the videos and data cause its view/perspective is already perfect. Highly productive. My Catalyst was sold to friends 2years ago, but you can see how it looks with a GoPro in my channel. I am also a 4RS owner so I subscribed your channel from the beginning.
Awesome, thanks for the tip! I'll give it a look.
This was easily the messiest weekend I’ve ever experienced at COTA. It was chaotic to say the least.
You got that right. It was a real mess and I was glad to just make it out of there with all my fingers and toes still attached.
Hey, how many track days do your tires usually last? and which tires too :)
I use Hoosier R7s.
I run them for ~12 heat cycles = 3 track days and then toss them.
what tires are you running? what are your favorites?
I'm running Hoosier R7s on the GT4 RS.
While they're great, I actually preferred the Hankook Z214s in the same price range-but unfortunately, they don’t come in 20-inch sizes.
what pressures have you got front & back when hot please.
29 - 30 psi hot.
The R7s like a little less pressure so I usually target the low side of that range.
Oops that viper was me… 😅
Oh wow, what led to that trip through the kitty litter?
@ slightly loose right rear wheel hub generated unwanted additional movement on the wheel causing the rotors to push the pads off. I had slicks and a 300+ lbs passenger. You remember how the track was that day, I did not prime the brakes as I should have in those conditions. Braking zone right rear caliper did not grip causing uneven braking and car got loose in a threshold brake zone sliding around fast. I decided to let go the brakes for grip and take the turn faster than I should because she would not stop. I was already passing the dry zone. Passenger weight kicked in to the equation during the turn and added more weight to the chassis to lean right, which contributed to an uncontrolled split second slide. I felt the nose snapping to the inside wall of 11 and instinctively lifted very little and countered to correct the direction. Speed was potentially 20 mph more than I should have in that corner, figured I could counter again but good luck… The car reacted faster to my save attempt and spun the ass 180. We started sliding into the litter. COTA design did the job to save us. We were fine. 5 feet off the wall. Passenger was ok.
Felt super bad for ruining the session. First ever session blowing incident for me at COTA between over 800 laps since I moved to Austin in 2021… Hopefully never again. Lessons learned.
Wow, great to hear you were both okay and that the runoff saved the car!
As I’ve often said, we’re fortunate to run on an F1 track with proper F1 runoff areas.
I had my brakes fail going into T11 recently when a carbon brake line was cut.
Definitely got me looking into dual master braking systems.
Thanks for sharing-we all learn from these incidents.
I gota get back out there
The longer you wait, the more your skills fade-so get to it!
was that a 765lt that crashed? jeez...
Correct, a lot of car.
@@ItsTrackTime I picked up a GT4RS and a 765lt in 2024, great cars, I have not tracked them yet. My go to track car is my 992 GT3 which is a full dundon lab rat fitted car, and also my Radical SR3 which i also raced at two rounds. the 765lt, is a complete monster... I have driven a lot of cool stuff and capable cars, I would say the 765lt is the first car that puts a little fear in. It sure requires extra discipline and caution when driving some thing like with such power.
You have great taste in cars-a lot of variety!
When you’re dealing with that much torque and power (765LT), it’s crucial to roll the power on smoothly, or things will go wrong very quickly. The computers in McLarens are excellent at keeping the car under control, so I wouldn’t turn them off unless I had *significant* experience with the car on track.
Any idea how much a wreck would cost a McLaren? I’m assuming he had track insurance but the deductible can’t be cheap.
My rule for years was “if you can’t afford to lose it, don’t bring it” but with the 4RS I did get track insurance.
If they had you driving with windows up and using turn signals to indicate passing, these long trains wouldn’t be as much of an issue as having to point every single car by.
It ultimately comes down to the driver noticing a car approaching from behind and giving the point-by, whether with a turn signal or a hand out the window. The weak link is the driver, not the mechanism. Personally, I preferred driving on European tracks where passing is allowed without a point-by. It simply works better when everyone is competent and paying attention.
@ my experience at COTA with EA was similar. Most of my track experience in Europe was a lot better and not very often having to let people pass. But the windows down-point by rules in the States creates congestion easily, not to mention how annoying it is listening to wind at that high of speeds. Also the fact it seems no one treated the first lap as a warmup lap, which was quite frustrating having to point so many people by while I’m trying to warm the tires up and familiarize myself with the racing line.
Yep, many folks want to go hard on the very first lap and I just let them pass and then reel them back in when I'm up to temp.
You can see how going hard on cold components didn't work out well for some of the drives in this video.
😮👏👏🙌
nitrogen!
If you bring the bottle to the track and unload it into my garage, I’ll happily use it!
lol @sagamotorsports