Never heard of MPS-803 before. I would have thought Commodore users would be more familiar with VIC-1525. I think it is interesting that VICE apparently emulates the disk drive much more thoroughly than the printer. It would be interesting to hear simulated VIC 1525 sound effects, wouldn't it?
It depends on the era of Commodore user. As the VIC-20 was replaced by the C64, the MPS-801 was released as a cosmetically updated VIC-1525, similarly to how the MPS-802 is a cosmetically updated 1526 (see my video on the 802 for more details). The MPS-803 then followed in 1984/85. It was available with a black casing for the TED series, or a brown-beige casing for the C64... It is a compact, cost-reduced printer that does not use the same physical mechanism or ribbon cartridge as the 1525/801, but responds to the same commands. Thus, the 1525/801/803 are generally interchangeable from a software standpoint. -- JC
@@BasicBitesCA On second thought, I think I saw those printers in ads back in the day, but sure didn't recall the model number. I got my commodore equipment in 1983, so ended up with the 1525.
The thing about adding true printer sound effects is that it would require drastically slowing down the printing speed of the emulator to match the 60cps of a real 803. That said, I think it would be a pleasant feature have *some* sort of audible feedback for the printer -- say, one click per line printed -- as confirmation that your print job is working. -- JC
I appreciate your comments! As to the question: I don't know. There isn't a lot of documentation on these settings that I'm able to find, and I've never used an actual NL10 for comparison. This video is essentially showing the results of trial-and-error. -- JC
Thank you! I downloaded TFCIII from ReplayResources (the link is in the video description). There's no installation; it's just a CRT file like any other cartridge you might use in VICE. -- JC
I've never tried it, but the printer configuration in the C128 emulator is the same -- so if you've loaded the corresponding printer driver in GEOS 128, I don't see why it wouldn't work. -- JC
I cannot give a definitive answer because I haven't done it. However, VICE seems to indicate that it can print directly to ports such as LPT1:. To experiment, I would configure said port to point to a USB printer, and see what happens when I sent output from VICE directly to that port. That said, I would regard printing to image files to be superior from the point of view that you then have complete control to print said images however you like, from whatever software you like. -- JC
Try it and let us know! 😉 Insofar as my own experimentation with VICE 3.6, the two drivers I covered were the *only* ones that worked properly with the other printer settings configured as shown in the "graphic" output mode. -- JC
In the Printer settings, you can use the ASCII driver with Text output -- but you'll get placeholder symbols for the graphical PETSCII characters that don't translate. -- JC
@@BasicBitesCA Yes, tried this but it won't "print" at all. Only bmp works :( Printer 4, File system, Enable IEC device, ASCII, Text (grey), Device 1 (viceprnt.out)
This is a very useful video, thanks very much, I have recently tried to figure this out, this is very helpful
Thank you for making this video! I really loved being mentioned! Now I know how to print my programs, thank you 😄
You're welcome! It was the right question at the right time. 😎 -- JC
Very helpful. Been having a bit of trouble printing BASIC listings from VICE.👍
Never heard of MPS-803 before. I would have thought Commodore users would be more familiar with VIC-1525.
I think it is interesting that VICE apparently emulates the disk drive much more thoroughly than the printer. It would be interesting to hear simulated VIC 1525 sound effects, wouldn't it?
It depends on the era of Commodore user. As the VIC-20 was replaced by the C64, the MPS-801 was released as a cosmetically updated VIC-1525, similarly to how the MPS-802 is a cosmetically updated 1526 (see my video on the 802 for more details). The MPS-803 then followed in 1984/85. It was available with a black casing for the TED series, or a brown-beige casing for the C64... It is a compact, cost-reduced printer that does not use the same physical mechanism or ribbon cartridge as the 1525/801, but responds to the same commands. Thus, the 1525/801/803 are generally interchangeable from a software standpoint. -- JC
@@BasicBitesCA On second thought, I think I saw those printers in ads back in the day, but sure didn't recall the model number. I got my commodore equipment in 1983, so ended up with the 1525.
Printer sound effects? Great, then you can hear that it is working. Similar to disk drive noises.
The thing about adding true printer sound effects is that it would require drastically slowing down the printing speed of the emulator to match the 60cps of a real 803. That said, I think it would be a pleasant feature have *some* sort of audible feedback for the printer -- say, one click per line printed -- as confirmation that your print job is working. -- JC
This is great! Something I have wanted to try for a long time… never got around to it. I will be testing it now. Thanks!
Thanks for explaining how to do this!! Much appreciated.
thank you very much! great channel!
My pleasure! Thank you for the kind comment. -- JC
Very informative. Thank you!
Thank you. Exactly what I need. Not too long and not too short.
Why doesn't the NL10 actually print the control characters as PETSCII (min. 15:00)?
I appreciate your comments! As to the question: I don't know. There isn't a lot of documentation on these settings that I'm able to find, and I've never used an actual NL10 for comparison. This video is essentially showing the results of trial-and-error. -- JC
I believe it's for clarity when used to print type-ins.
That was interesting. Thank you!
Excellent video! Whre did you downloaded the rom for the Final Cartridge III? Is it complicated to install?
Thank you! I downloaded TFCIII from ReplayResources (the link is in the video description). There's no installation; it's just a CRT file like any other cartridge you might use in VICE. -- JC
I guess I need to update to a newer version of VICE. Version 2.4 does not seem to produce a bitmap readable by Windows 10's built in tools.
Thanks good video
Would this method work to print from geoWrite under GEOS 128 running in the VICE C128 emulator?
I've never tried it, but the printer configuration in the C128 emulator is the same -- so if you've loaded the corresponding printer driver in GEOS 128, I don't see why it wouldn't work. -- JC
What steps would be involved in having BMC or vice itself when something is "printed" having that sent to a usb printer connected or similiar?
I cannot give a definitive answer because I haven't done it. However, VICE seems to indicate that it can print directly to ports such as LPT1:. To experiment, I would configure said port to point to a USB printer, and see what happens when I sent output from VICE directly to that port. That said, I would regard printing to image files to be superior from the point of view that you then have complete control to print said images however you like, from whatever software you like. -- JC
I would have liked to see what RAW for driver does.
Try it and let us know! 😉 Insofar as my own experimentation with VICE 3.6, the two drivers I covered were the *only* ones that worked properly with the other printer settings configured as shown in the "graphic" output mode. -- JC
What about a text file instead of graphics?
In the Printer settings, you can use the ASCII driver with Text output -- but you'll get placeholder symbols for the graphical PETSCII characters that don't translate. -- JC
@@BasicBitesCA Yes, tried this but it won't "print" at all. Only bmp works :( Printer 4, File system, Enable IEC device, ASCII, Text (grey), Device 1 (viceprnt.out)
i'm trying to print a zork playthrough ( script )...
WinVice doesn't do hi-res graphics, but GTKVice does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the hell is wrong with WinVice??????????????????????????? >:(