@C5GalaxyStudios its really just the same technology that was invented or dreamed up in WWI and WWII era. Nothing new since then. They even dreamed up starship shields, which are merely precisely engineered ultra high powered magnetic fields. They actually have created these for military uses but they are still secret.
In 1993: Get a $1999 machine and start from there - You want it to look nice? add another $1000 - You want it to sound nice? add another $1000 In 2020: - You get generic computer device X for $399 to $599 - You got a spare $1000 ??? You're filthy rich. keep in mind $1000 in 2020 is worth much less.
Ha! I remember my first PC in 1992 and how it's 105MB HDD was considered pretty big. I would only need about 1000 of them to hold just one of the games out today.
I remember when a friend got a new hard drive, and it was like 700MB. And we where so amazed that we could copy AN ENTIRE CD-ROM ONTO A HARD DRIVE!!!1111
@@CTimmerman Or, we could have shallower cases! Just put sata ports in the front or adapt it through usb? I mean, we do have USB 10 Gbps, and PD! My current build maxes all 4 sata ports in my motherboard (I realized there was only 4 ports after purchasing it, though it was weird as my previous computer had 6), but lately ssds have been cheaper than ever, so I don't see a problem with someone having just m.2 drives!
@@CTimmerman try 1,000 years (BD-R M-disc)... No other media will last as long. LTO tapes start fading at 30 years (or less if temperature and humidity are not regulated).
Pretty sure we have laptops averaging 10 hours now, a lot up to 15 hours, even the cheap $250 ones. It makes sense since power efficiency on laptops have gone up significantly (thanks to low powered CPU and GPU) and hence a lot longer battery life.
yeah totally not changed. despite being 10x the resolution, 1/8 the thickness, exponentially faster, exponentially larger storage, expoentially more refined materials that they are made of....and the batteries were engineered to hold a standard of 3-6 (now 8-12) hours of battery life. not changed much at all.
@@barbrose4987 That's just how it was I guess. A friend of mine had a Tandy 1000 back in the day, and he had two IBM magazines that were about as thick as phone books. Filled with computers you could buy, parts, you name it those magazines had it. Great times back then.
@@barbrose4987 Small market so low budget for ads. Now companies have enough cheap hardware to send out for free to influencers for cheap advertisement.
@@SanderEvers I do like and own their phones though, they are reliable, durable and as you said a full experience. 2013 was my first and last macbook pro I bought. It went downhill from there..
@@SanderEvers Honestly up until 2010 I would always enjoy the Apple experience but after that things seemed to become repetitive. The thing that killed me was the removal of the optical drive in the 2013 MacBook Pro. Now it feels like you are just paying for a overpriced weak status symbol. They are durable products though, I will give Apple that.
" spect realistic images" hahahah. and that story has never end. now they sale oled tvs with life like color, and then here it coms micro-LED and better than oled more powerful more durable and quantum simulation on your own living room haaha
Personally, I think the only thing that really changed was the internet. It still had the same form with basic application used mostly. And building one today is pretty much like building one back then, except it's easier because today you don't have to know as much about computers. It's just faster and shrank a lot in some cases.
Only been there twice, nice place.. In the poor old days :( Now computing is affordable, and easy to put together. Only sucky thing about this generation is the top tier video cards/game console sell out like hotcakes thanks to these scalping whores.
@@mathgasm8484 It's where I went to buy The 7th Guest when it came out for PC, but most of my older DOS games at the time were bought when we would go to Egghead Software in Severna Park MD, and we'd go to the computer show in Timonium MD. Back in the day, those computer shows would literally be jam packed shoulder to shoulder with people.
Oh... You tell me with all the 80's Motley Crue stuff where going on and all those square people where on coke during 80's and most of 90's. Society...
🤔🤔🤔 The Macintosh Centris 650 in 1993: $3000 with upgraded video and ram The Mac Pro Tower 2020 in 2020: $5999 Keep in mind $3,000 in 1993 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $5,403.74 in 2020
Wow. I've been watching a lot of these old computer videos (the 90s mostly) and it just blew my mind how almost every salesperson, tech support and even buyers seem to know a lot or show a lot of interest into the things they sell and buy. The tone and language are also much more comfortable to listen to compared to mainstream medias nowadays. I'm aware that these are professionally recorded but it just feels much more welcoming to watch and listen. I would say it's impressive how far technology has advanced nowadays but the level of professionalism and lingual manners of the people back then seemed much more impressive.
Good observations. As someone who lived through it all I can confirm your thoughts and say that is very true, this world was a completely different place, far more attractive and comfortable, men were more manly, women were more womanly and warm. Modern times are a nightmare.
Me in 1993: 4 MB is the way I'll go (and 8 Mb was already OP for gaming). Only got 16 Mb in '96. Me in 2015: 32 GB is the way I'll go. Me in 2020: What you mean, 32 GB is STILL plenty for gaming????
I used to love looking through Computer Shopper back when I was 12 or 13 years old. Loved the demos that came on the 3.5 inch disks taped to the front. Dad used to pick it up at Sainsbury's with the grocery shop :)
It's kinda like how my dad made me take a typing class in middle school and a programming class freshman year of high school. I asked why and he answered with "because this is how you're going to pay your bills." He wasn't wrong.
In the 90s, I heard theres a computer in our school, but were not allowed to see it. It became a legend, some of my friends claimed to have seen it from the windows but I never believed them. In the frist year we were given books to read what a computer is and its parts. The second year we got to see the computer and type our name, I still remember typing my name wrong so that I could spend little extra time up close looking at the computer. Good old days.
@@VonDutchNL depends on the school. I lucked out and went to a school that had a computer lab and 1-2 in every class room. It was the only school in the district with that much tech. A lot of its circumstantial and where you landed in the upgrade cycle, not to mention the relative wealth of school districts and their access to tech.
I grew up in this era, got my first machine just a couple years after this was shot. These prices in real dollars would be exorbitant today. I can't believe anyone spent $4k on such a limited machine that was obsolete in two years. Progress was much faster then. A computer from 10 years ago now would still be perfectly usable. My parents were not rich. I can't believe they bought a computer for an 9 year old in the 90's. They must have saved for months. I was very privileged.
It ticks me off so much that companies like Commodore and Atari screwed up their businesses and handed the industry over to the PC clones on a silver platter. I remember when PCs and Macs were selling for between $3,000-5000 and were nightmares to own and upgrade, while a $500 Amiga or ST was a perfectly usable machine out of the box. The computer industry before the 2000's was an absolute mess and everything cost many times what it was actually worth. No wonder "progress" happened so quickly. It was all junk from the start.
My dad built his desktop back in the day that cost like 5 grand. He's a computer scientist so I had the benefit of using top of the line stuff if he didnt use it for work at the time but his work gave him laptops and an extra desktop as well. Good times.
Buying a PC back then was like an automobile purchase decision. There were 2 reasons to buy one: If you use it for work. Or you really bought into the hype that "computers were the future" and you wanted your kids to have one. Then a few of those kids trained in computers since youth and shaped the internet. ;)
Crazy I remember watching this being mind blown. Between these shows and my dad working as a system analyst It started a journey of curiosity. Really cool seeing these
if you need this kind of guides, yes you will run windows because people watching it is a noob.. you can push people to use something complicated if they are newbie.. they will give up
6:55 the actual quote was: "and almost all of us is gonna have to be using Windows, whether we want it or not" - which is correct, whether you run Slackware or not (kudos for that btw).
It's crazy how far Linux has come since then though. Now I find Linux easier than Windows. Ever try windows 8 or 10? Holy crap! Linux is officially more user friendly now.
And setting the IRQ, DMA and address on my Sound Blaster Pro's jumpers, as well as bus multipliers and CPU voltages on motherboards, also with jumpers!! Good times!!
I was 12 in 92' we had an old IBM still running DOS if I remember correctly. I still preferred typing homework up on a typewriter lol. We ended up with a Packard Bell 486 once Win 95 came out, I was all in on computers then!
Which later turned into making music with them! Hello buddy, nice to meet you here :)) We were one of the few at home that started with Windows 98. I did homework on it but also had Quicktime for playing back MIDI files. Ah yes the times..
@@ZenithMusicNet yo Zenith! Fancy running into you here ha! 🤘Ah, yes MIDI playback, I remember some general MIDI thing in Windows back in the day, well before I even had a clue lol. Was nice though, in the old days uncompressed audio would fill a drive super quick! Thank goodness for MP3 and Winamp! I whips the lamas ass lol
You must have been a great typist. I *hated* typing reports. WordStar on a KayPro II (it had an amazingly sharp monitor which was awesome for text) was a true game changer.
I really wish there was a video program like this today. Some youtubers come close but there’s really nothing quite like this that feels this professional.
I seem to be having problems installing my new software: it said insert CD 1 so I did that, then it said insert CD 2 so I did that, and now it says insert CD 3 but the tray appears to be stuck.
Dear gawd...I remember those pre-internet days (and even further back in the '80s to 1991-ish with green screens). A computer class was a required class to go to in our elementary school that I attended from 1988 to 1992. Green screens, Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego, MIG fighter text-based game, Olympic Games game, Print Shop word processor, 8" and 5.25" floppy disks and tower floppy drives (literally, a tower that was like 5 feet tall for those floppies), etc. I do appreciate having parents that saw this coming way ahead of time because I am where I am in terms of skill with hardware and software today because of them. The teachers at Lanesborough Elementary saw this coming too and I am forever grateful for having a good quality education there even if we were all elementary kids doing simple things in a simpler time.
And even then, 8GB now days is not going to be a very fun windows experience. Sure it will run, but not very well. I don't know what's crazier, the fact that ram sizes are more than 1024x what they were then, or the fact that windows got so bloated that even 1024x more ram is still not quit enough lol.
Thank you for the video. It is easy to giggle and point at this video, but the selection methods have not changed over the past twenty five years. This technology was ground-breaking, and very relevant to our world today. Thank you for sharing. I watched this program all the time when it was airing.
I didn't learn DOS and Windows 3,1 until in 1995, I didn't buy my first computer until 1996, it was a Pentium 66 mhz with 4GB of ram, I returned it a few days later and decided to buy a custom made computer from Benitek that was a 120mhz Pentium, 8GB of RAM, Diamond S3 video card, Creative Labs sound card and had a Intel Endeavor mother board. I bought my first used Mac at LSI Logic's employee sale when I was supporting their Microsoft NT 3.51 Servers working for IBM Global Services, it was a Centris 650, I loved it and practiced newtorking Mac OS X 7.5 with Microsoft NT 3.51 Server.
buying a PC back in the day was basically like buying a car. Loads of technical terms, booklets, etc etc. Not to mention the price. But the feeling of it, was like a part of the future was in your living room.
Thank goodness I found this! I need a new computer, and now I know what to look for! Seriously though, this is a wonderful trip back in time, and I'm grateful that someone is archiving it! I wonder who the phone numbers connect to now. Did anyone archive the computer chronicles forum? They didn't list their website, I guess you had to call the number to get their site info?
I positively reminisce the past of everything I’ve been through. I’m in the early 30s and I’m glad to be alive to see ahead of new trends of technology.
It's amazing how the numbers they suggest for memory are basically the same as in 2020 but MB instead of GB. So maybe in 2050 we'll be saying "16TB RAM would be nice".
Yeah, I remember Pentium processors being advertised with MMX technology for Multimedia purposes. A computer being multimedia capable was considered a huge deal in those days.
I know all of these comments are older than what I remember, but I distinctly remember the green, "multi-media" windows that spawned off of XP. I was like 8 or 9 at the time and thought that was a power pc.
My uncle was deep in debt for buying a high end 32 Megahertz beast of a computer but couldn't pay it off. He then took a loan from a "nice rich gentleman" in a back alley which helped him pay it off. However he couldn't pay it off in time. Turns out the guy was part of the Mafia and now he's somewhere at the bottom of the ocean. R.I.P. Uncle Mackey :(
@@maleficarus not really. I bought my first proper PC in 1997 and it cost £2,500, which is about £4,700 with inflation. It was high end but point is that 23 years later, I could buy a pre built very high end PC right now for slightly less. And a very decent one for much less.
@@kevinskipp2762 Jesus Christ that's a Mortgage down payment. That's a super high end enthusiast gaming PC money today. That's why we never got a PC until like 1999 and that was an outdated model.
At first, I just heard "two ...bytes of RAM", and I didn't even register that he said MEGA bytes. Just. Wow. Early programmers and engineers were amazing what they managed to pull out of these systems.
I'm very god at computers and if you asked me anything i would know it. I dont understand a thing there talking about what do they mean bay 8mb or 12mb is it the ram or the hard drive. Can some won help me please i am so confused thank you.
Haha that would be awesome, especially if you have a sleeper pc with a pc case from 1993 like in this video but with all top of the line components and no hdds (only NVME m.2 drives) or optical drives. I'd kill to see their faces!!
Damn these videos are really interesting. The average computer purchaser had to be fairly educated on the products back then. The power of the computers was quite variant, so you might actually be screwed if you make the wrong choice whereas today you can pretty much get whatever power you need from any machine (unless you're heavy into gaming).
Back in 1994, I was a kid who went with my dad to a crowded computer store. Objective was to buy a home pc. My dad had a stack of cash on the way there (people paid in cash), we looked at a variety of things. Phones, printers, personal palm tablets, bulky laptops... it was a such a wonderful time to shop for a computer. Sales folks and everyone who was shopping both asked questions and the level of intellect back then was much better then than now.
30 years ago I was just learning how to type on an old 386 clone at my middle school. I got my first computer in 1997, and that $2,400 beast was quickly obsoleted by the pace of advancing tech. If only these people knew just how fast their state-of-the-art systems would be outclassed. This was two years before Windows 95, even.
What i remember from the mid 90's regarding computers is that they were rare, slow and very expensive. Only a few of my friends from school had a computer at home, and it was usually old even then.
It's interesting how easy the sales pitch was for Apple. In the case of PCs, they had to explain how much RAM you need for every use case and whether or not you should get a sound card or CD ROM unit. With MACs, all they had to say was "this one is for education, this one is for business, they all come bundled with everything you need so you don't even need to know the name of the processing unit or the amount of RAM". I can totally understand why MACs were popular back in the late 1980s and early 1990s. For a business person, "you plug it in and it works out of the box" is everything they ever wanted to hear. Same for rich families that wanted to feel like they're on the cutting edge of multimedia technology.
I remember this episode. I thought it was very funny that they did not have the first lady walk off the set after Stuart finished talking to her. She just stood there and he went over to the cute girl. LOL 🤓
Got my first computer in November of 1993 in 7th grade (thanks mom and dad!). An off-brand from a place called Compuage Computers. Back when there were thousands of vendors of IBM-compatibles.
@Big Foot Nope, it's over 9000, according to the US inflation calculator. The mentioned 1000-5000 dollars would correspond to 1800-9000 dollars today. Laptops were damn expensive back then! You would get three or four for that today. High end, I mean.
The comment made about "the Centris machine" being renamed to the Quadra really demonstrates the issues Apple had in the 90s. Too many products and it was difficult to figure out which one was best. Especially when some Performa models were just rebadged Quadra models.
I just an hour ago found some old QBasic programs I wrote in 93, including a Mandelbrot Set generator that took hours and hours :D It felt quite weird looking at the last modified dates and seeing how old they were, and remembering how much younger I was, and the state of technology at the time.
Amazing video! Like flash back! I am young again! thanks for this.. I have a lot of this videos on CD's comming with the new computer.. just to see, that I did a good buy.. Now is all online like here on youtube..
Me in 1993: Were probably going to be driving flying cars in 2020!!!!
Me in 2020: watching a youtube video about how to buy a computer in 1993.
Jokes!!!
@C5GalaxyStudios its really just the same technology that was invented or dreamed up in WWI and WWII era. Nothing new since then. They even dreamed up starship shields, which are merely precisely engineered ultra high powered magnetic fields. They actually have created these for military uses but they are still secret.
Imagine taking a smartphone back to the early 90s when all you had on your fucking desktop was dial-up
In 1993:
Get a $1999 machine and start from there
- You want it to look nice? add another $1000
- You want it to sound nice? add another $1000
In 2020:
- You get generic computer device X for $399 to $599
- You got a spare $1000 ??? You're filthy rich.
keep in mind $1000 in 2020 is worth much less.
lol
"Lot's of hard drive space, up to 200 MB". About the size of this UA-cam video.
Ha! I remember my first PC in 1992 and how it's 105MB HDD was considered pretty big. I would only need about 1000 of them to hold just one of the games out today.
I remember when a friend got a new hard drive, and it was like 700MB. And we where so amazed that we could copy AN ENTIRE CD-ROM ONTO A HARD DRIVE!!!1111
$5000!!!! For 200 mb. Lmao
You could do a lot with that amount of memory. Like play Sierra games and shitpost on usenet about DS9 versus Babylon 5, and uhh...that's about it.
I remember that Win 95 OSR2 installation files were all together 65 MB. These days, the nVidia driver installer is 450 MB.
People in 1993: "Should I get an optical disk drive?"
People in 2020: "Should I get an optical disk drive?"
I mean when I built a PC back in 2013 I opted out from the optical drive. Nowadays cases don't even have bays.
@@Gabifuertes Makes sense when you can buy 2 TB SSDs that fit the same space. That only lasts 1 instead of 5+ years without power, though.
@@CTimmerman Or, we could have shallower cases! Just put sata ports in the front or adapt it through usb? I mean, we do have USB 10 Gbps, and PD!
My current build maxes all 4 sata ports in my motherboard (I realized there was only 4 ports after purchasing it, though it was weird as my previous computer had 6), but lately ssds have been cheaper than ever, so I don't see a problem with someone having just m.2 drives!
@@CTimmerman try 1,000 years (BD-R M-disc)... No other media will last as long. LTO tapes start fading at 30 years (or less if temperature and humidity are not regulated).
I bought an external one, it's useful when i need to rip some CDs still.
"If your just playing games it's not worth it" oh Stuart .. if only you knew.
That will tell you just how much these so called experts really know............
Games ended up being one of the biggest accelerators for PCs
@@bytejourneycodes Very True.
Your comment made my day!
This show was made before the pc acceleration era, so they were right on
"Battery life is excepted for 3-6 hours." Well, that has not changed much over the years.
Pretty sure we have laptops averaging 10 hours now, a lot up to 15 hours, even the cheap $250 ones. It makes sense since power efficiency on laptops have gone up significantly (thanks to low powered CPU and GPU) and hence a lot longer battery life.
yeah totally not changed. despite being 10x the resolution, 1/8 the thickness, exponentially faster, exponentially larger storage, expoentially more refined materials that they are made of....and the batteries were engineered to hold a standard of 3-6 (now 8-12) hours of battery life. not changed much at all.
@@Raythe to r/woosh or to not r/woosh, that is the question
We clearly all have PowerPC G5’s in our laptops
I got 12 hours on my Sony vain early 2000s
To all the young ones watching, if you're wondering how one moves such a large desktop computer, there are forklift slots on the back of the case.
Eh, today's gaming PC cases are pretty much these turned on their sides.
My PC weighs 40lbs. Full aluminum ATX case.
@@Pwnzistor Add another 40 lbs. for the monitor.
PCs really about the same weight, especially with these nice cases nowadays. The biggest darn weight savings is the monitor.
Lol
It’s amazing that a pterodactyl didn’t fly in and carry someone away.
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69th like, nicee...
Wow good comment haha
Ha! This is either a Jurassic Park reference or a humourous hyperbole.
@@iberius9937 I think he’s saying that it’s so old that it’s in the age of the dinosaurs. I can’t really explain it but hopefully you understand
You know it's the 90s when a computer advertisement spends half its time showing you books and papers, instead of actual computers.
But why 😂
@@barbrose4987 That's just how it was I guess. A friend of mine had a Tandy 1000 back in the day, and he had two IBM magazines that were about as thick as phone books. Filled with computers you could buy, parts, you name it those magazines had it. Great times back then.
@@barbrose4987 Small market so low budget for ads. Now companies have enough cheap hardware to send out for free to influencers for cheap advertisement.
You mean flipping through pages in a catalog/magazine as opposed to showing you websites lol.
Did that lady really just stand there and stare at the wall when he went to talk to the other chick? 😂
Right, that was weird
What jumps at me is he is always looking at the monitor coming back from commercials. It looks so obviously scripted.
Asperger's
I thought the exact same thing
I laughed out loud!!
1993: Apple is more expensive
2020: oh boy...
Apple has always been more expensive. But the point of Apple is, you buy a full experience, not just a computer. (or phone)
@@SanderEvers I do like and own their phones though, they are reliable, durable and as you said a full experience.
2013 was my first and last macbook pro I bought. It went downhill from there..
@@saiando9228
The new M1 MacBook Pro is outstanding- long battery life, very fast, runs cool.
@@SanderEvers sorry but the experience thing is not the case anymore
They sell overpriced shitty PCs
@@SanderEvers Honestly up until 2010 I would always enjoy the Apple experience but after that things seemed to become repetitive. The thing that killed me was the removal of the optical drive in the 2013 MacBook Pro. Now it feels like you are just paying for a overpriced weak status symbol.
They are durable products though, I will give Apple that.
Almost 30 years. It'd be cool to see the older fellow, if he's still alive today. Weird that 1993 was so long ago.
It really is weird
I was thinking exactly the same.
Stewart Cheifet is still around. He gives presentations from time to time.
I was curious also. He is 82 years old and alive and kicking. Is on Twitter.
@@stevemoore3951 No way thats awesome. Its crazy how far "home computing" has come.
This video was uploaded in 2013 and all 1000 comments are max. 12 days old. That's very remarkable.
Corona effect
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UA-cam's crazy algorithm must have just started recommending it after burying it for 7 years.
"A $5000 laptop, your looking at the highest end possible - expect a whopping 200MB of HDD Space hahaha"
" spect realistic images" hahahah. and that story has never end. now they sale oled tvs with life like color, and then here it coms micro-LED and better than oled more powerful more durable and quantum simulation on your own living room haaha
Don't forget the massive 16Mb of ram
@2BuckGeo are you compensating for something?
@@TheRatlord74 I mean, in all fairness you need a high end machine for pron
@@TheRatlord74 Remember it's MB, not Mb. Mb is megabits, MB is megabytes 😉
Man this is so nostalgic to watch, crazy how far stuff has come. Seeing all these old machines also makes me want to build a retro PC.
I have my 486 Dx2 in the attic still.
Personally, I think the only thing that really changed was the internet. It still had the same form with basic application used mostly. And building one today is pretty much like building one back then, except it's easier because today you don't have to know as much about computers. It's just faster and shrank a lot in some cases.
If only we could go back, hop on the internet and pick up some 1 word domain names
In 1993 I was still shitting my diaper
Do we also get RGB fans for their set ups back then?
CompUSA is a word I haven't heard in years... Brings back childhood memories.
Only been there twice, nice place.. In the poor old days :( Now computing is affordable, and easy to put together. Only sucky thing about this generation is the top tier video cards/game console sell out like hotcakes thanks to these scalping whores.
damn got my US robotics modem from there to play runescape back in the day
best
I loved that store as a kid.
@@mathgasm8484 It's where I went to buy The 7th Guest when it came out for PC, but most of my older DOS games at the time were bought when we would go to Egghead Software in Severna Park MD, and we'd go to the computer show in Timonium MD. Back in the day, those computer shows would literally be jam packed shoulder to shoulder with people.
This was before society was offically ruined by the internet
I love Tucker
@@StarwindAmada1 Mike's point made
Correction: This was before the Internet was ruined by society!😇
social media did that... and those creatures were created on purpose to ruin the internet.
Oh... You tell me with all the 80's Motley Crue stuff where going on and all those square people where on coke during 80's and most of 90's. Society...
"now that the prices of macs have come down so much" ...who wants to tell him
im going
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The Macintosh Centris 650 in 1993:
$3000 with upgraded video and ram
The Mac Pro Tower 2020
in 2020:
$5999
Keep in mind $3,000 in 1993 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $5,403.74 in 2020
@@picketf you forgot the new monitor stand, that costs 1k usd
Apple was experimenting with lower prices back then, but that was before Steve Jobs came back.
Wow. I've been watching a lot of these old computer videos (the 90s mostly) and it just blew my mind how almost every salesperson, tech support and even buyers seem to know a lot or show a lot of interest into the things they sell and buy. The tone and language are also much more comfortable to listen to compared to mainstream medias nowadays. I'm aware that these are professionally recorded but it just feels much more welcoming to watch and listen. I would say it's impressive how far technology has advanced nowadays but the level of professionalism and lingual manners of the people back then seemed much more impressive.
Even most of the terminology they use is still relevant today, the foundations of computers really haven’t changed much.
Good observations. As someone who lived through it all I can confirm your thoughts and say that is very true, this world was a completely different place, far more attractive and comfortable, men were more manly, women were more womanly and warm. Modern times are a nightmare.
Lol it's so weird to watch this to see how far we've come in just 27 years. Now I have a 4k screen resolution, with 256gb of storage on my phone
250GB might be laughable, but 256GB are the real deal!
I am from the future, and my watch hold 256Petabyte, Cpu embedded on my brain run at quantum speed.
@@thatsawesome2060 Goddamit if you are right, I'd be dammed. That's like Black Mirror.
2 years later and I have 1TB on my iPhone. Anyone from 2025 want to join in?
It’s amazing how much our technology has advanced in the last 7 years since this was uploaded...
more like 27 years this video is from 1993
@@rocket767 /r/woosh
Bruh it’s been like 27 years 💀💀
Funny how the 3 replys actually fell for his sarcasm..god help us.
@PCDYYD well it worked to expose how gullible/naive and airheaded some ppl are...
I love watching these videos. Reminds me of my early childhood around PCs.
PC saleswoman in 1993: 16 MB is the way to go.
Me in 2018: 16 GB is the way to go.
@Lukasz damnit😂
you in 2031: 16 TB is the way to go.
Me in 1993: 4 MB is the way I'll go (and 8 Mb was already OP for gaming). Only got 16 Mb in '96.
Me in 2015: 32 GB is the way I'll go.
Me in 2020: What you mean, 32 GB is STILL plenty for gaming????
We have the same amount or more of cpu cache today as they did in ram in 1993
Not just a CD but a dual CD. When quad speed came out, that guy lost his mind
Man, i'm old. I've watched episodes of this show when i was in grade school. Stewart Cheifet is like the best at asking stuff you wouldn't think of.
I used to love looking through Computer Shopper back when I was 12 or 13 years old. Loved the demos that came on the 3.5 inch disks taped to the front. Dad used to pick it up at Sainsbury's with the grocery shop :)
"If you're just playing games it's probably not worth it." Classic!!!
People spend 1-2k on pcs to play games and its 100% worth it
@@supercool_saiyan5670 That's the case now, yes, but back then games weren't as intensive
These videos are gold. I love the hosts direct, impatient desire to attend to the audiences weak attention span
Anyone else remember seeing your librarian showing you "The Internet" in 1992 and saying, "This is your future."You were all, "Ok"?
I wasn't even born till 93 😂
@@srb2az141 I'm still not born 😂
and now no body need of a librarian just cause everybody have internet..
It's kinda like how my dad made me take a typing class in middle school and a programming class freshman year of high school. I asked why and he answered with "because this is how you're going to pay your bills." He wasn't wrong.
@@sandakureva typing classes! yes, I forgot about those! haha!
In the 90s, I heard theres a computer in our school, but were not allowed to see it. It became a legend, some of my friends claimed to have seen it from the windows but I never believed them.
In the frist year we were given books to read what a computer is and its parts. The second year we got to see the computer and type our name, I still remember typing my name wrong so that I could spend little extra time up close looking at the computer. Good old days.
I finished primary school in 1999. But I remember our classroom being full of PC's already in like 1995. So are you talking about like 1991?
@@VonDutchNL depends on the school. I lucked out and went to a school that had a computer lab and 1-2 in every class room. It was the only school in the district with that much tech. A lot of its circumstantial and where you landed in the upgrade cycle, not to mention the relative wealth of school districts and their access to tech.
natural brows and hair styles are so refreshing.
That dudes comb over to hide his baldness is not natural
@j j I have really good genetics. Nobody in my family is bald and I have a full head of hair and a full beard at the age of 26.
@@Robeight my grandfather's 94 with a head full head of hair and my dad's 66 with a full head of hair.
@@TurkeysLeg As if it's all real hair, it's not like a toupee. You're such a stickler.
@@TurkeysLeg that’s exactly what someone who is loosing hair would say
I grew up in this era, got my first machine just a couple years after this was shot. These prices in real dollars would be exorbitant today. I can't believe anyone spent $4k on such a limited machine that was obsolete in two years. Progress was much faster then. A computer from 10 years ago now would still be perfectly usable. My parents were not rich. I can't believe they bought a computer for an 9 year old in the 90's. They must have saved for months. I was very privileged.
It ticks me off so much that companies like Commodore and Atari screwed up their businesses and handed the industry over to the PC clones on a silver platter. I remember when PCs and Macs were selling for between $3,000-5000 and were nightmares to own and upgrade, while a $500 Amiga or ST was a perfectly usable machine out of the box.
The computer industry before the 2000's was an absolute mess and everything cost many times what it was actually worth. No wonder "progress" happened so quickly. It was all junk from the start.
My dad built his desktop back in the day that cost like 5 grand. He's a computer scientist so I had the benefit of using top of the line stuff if he didnt use it for work at the time but his work gave him laptops and an extra desktop as well. Good times.
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Buying a PC back then was like an automobile purchase decision. There were 2 reasons to buy one: If you use it for work. Or you really bought into the hype that "computers were the future" and you wanted your kids to have one. Then a few of those kids trained in computers since youth and shaped the internet. ;)
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Crazy I remember watching this being mind blown. Between these shows and my dad working as a system analyst It started a journey of curiosity. Really cool seeing these
"you're going to have to be using windows whether you want to or not"
(Me in 1993 running Slackware) ... What?
if you need this kind of guides, yes you will run windows because people watching it is a noob.. you can push people to use something complicated if they are newbie.. they will give up
Or IBM OS/2, though that would probably need even *more* RAM than Windows, to be honest.
6:55 the actual quote was: "and almost all of us is gonna have to be using Windows, whether we want it or not" - which is correct, whether you run Slackware or not (kudos for that btw).
It's crazy how far Linux has come since then though. Now I find Linux easier than Windows. Ever try windows 8 or 10? Holy crap! Linux is officially more user friendly now.
JFC it takes a special kind of masochist to want to have anything to do with Slackware, let alone back in 1993.
Autoexec.bat and config.sys , auww the good old days.
And setting the IRQ, DMA and address on my Sound Blaster Pro's jumpers, as well as bus multipliers and CPU voltages on motherboards, also with jumpers!! Good times!!
Don't forget to set the slave jumper on your second hard drive.
Omg yes. Anyone remembering editing config.sys by adding himem.sys/DOS=HIGH so your computer could get more memory 😂😂
@Dave the one provided by Oak Techology inc right?? 🤣🤣 this is so fun. So nostalgic.
@@PhilSowden not the jumpers what a nightmare 😂😂
I miss the 90's. It's probably all based on nostalgia but still, I think the 90's was a great decade.
It’s not just nostalgia
This guy is spot on. Apples are designed to be used right out of the boxs while pcs offer more customizations and options. This still stands today.
I was 12 in 92' we had an old IBM still running DOS if I remember correctly. I still preferred typing homework up on a typewriter lol. We ended up with a Packard Bell 486 once Win 95 came out, I was all in on computers then!
Really? Me too!
Which later turned into making music with them! Hello buddy, nice to meet you here :)) We were one of the few at home that started with Windows 98. I did homework on it but also had Quicktime for playing back MIDI files. Ah yes the times..
@@ZenithMusicNet yo Zenith! Fancy running into you here ha! 🤘Ah, yes MIDI playback, I remember some general MIDI thing in Windows back in the day, well before I even had a clue lol. Was nice though, in the old days uncompressed audio would fill a drive super quick! Thank goodness for MP3 and Winamp! I whips the lamas ass lol
I had a 386 and that thing was a beast. It even ran Doom fine
You must have been a great typist. I *hated* typing reports. WordStar on a KayPro II (it had an amazingly sharp monitor which was awesome for text) was a true game changer.
They're talking about having 2, 4, 8, 16 MB of RAM... Im sitting here on a laptop with 32 gigs... fml
My C16 had a 64kByte Ram extension 🙈😂😂
some time in the future, someone will see your comment here and that someone probably using a device that has x10 ram of yours.
32 tb of Ram xd
@@xxgmehhhejkdkkjjfctsxxsjjj5194 900 TB of ram
@@jeffreyjewell75 1024 TB of ram
I really wish there was a video program like this today. Some youtubers come close but there’s really nothing quite like this that feels this professional.
then make it in your basement I am serious you can do it
I'm glad I stumbled upon this video. Now I know what to look for when I go computer shopping today!!!!
I seem to be having problems installing my new software: it said insert CD 1 so I did that, then it said insert CD 2 so I did that, and now it says insert CD 3 but the tray appears to be stuck.
Have you tried putting in only one disc at a time?
Turn it of and back on again
slap the pc a bit it might work then
Hit it and say you'll take everything I give you 😂
You can put CD3 in the 5 1/4" floppy drive. That works when the CD tray is stuck.
Dear gawd...I remember those pre-internet days (and even further back in the '80s to 1991-ish with green screens). A computer class was a required class to go to in our elementary school that I attended from 1988 to 1992. Green screens, Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego, MIG fighter text-based game, Olympic Games game, Print Shop word processor, 8" and 5.25" floppy disks and tower floppy drives (literally, a tower that was like 5 feet tall for those floppies), etc.
I do appreciate having parents that saw this coming way ahead of time because I am where I am in terms of skill with hardware and software today because of them. The teachers at Lanesborough Elementary saw this coming too and I am forever grateful for having a good quality education there even if we were all elementary kids doing simple things in a simpler time.
Watching this on my 256gb iPhone 📱 in 2020 just seems insane.
I'll 1 up you like the king d bag I am.
Watching this on a Samsung Note 20 Ultra with 1.5TB of storage, 12GB of ram and a 8 core snapdragon 865 plus
Absoloutly insane. No one would have even imagined. I think flying cars would’ve been more believable.
I'm watching it on my cheap android, which still blows any of these computers away.
Dont forget that processors today go 1000x faster and have billions of transistors that are under 20 nanometer
I was so excited to see these kinds of show, back when I had no PC, or later ones that plugged in a TV with--very--low graphic capabilities.
6:56 if you substitute megs for gigs, she could be talking about a PC in 2020....
Thought the same thing lol
Yup that's what I was thinking
*100GHZ PROCESSOR*
And even then, 8GB now days is not going to be a very fun windows experience. Sure it will run, but not very well. I don't know what's crazier, the fact that ram sizes are more than 1024x what they were then, or the fact that windows got so bloated that even 1024x more ram is still not quit enough lol.
@@redsquirrelftw I run 8.1 and 10 on 8 GB and have no issues.
Thank you for the video. It is easy to giggle and point at this video, but the selection methods have not changed over the past twenty five years. This technology was ground-breaking, and very relevant to our world today. Thank you for sharing. I watched this program all the time when it was airing.
I learned computers on MSDOS back in the 80s so I still know how computers actually work nowadays.
Ooooh look at your Mr MS-DOS .... Who cares.
mark russell great reaction! But then....who cares? 🤔
Damn dude that’s cool as hell, my parents never got the chance since around that time they were living in Mexico so
🤣🤣🤣
The real geeks we're using Amiga's back in the day :P
I didn't learn DOS and Windows 3,1 until in 1995, I didn't buy my first computer until 1996, it was a Pentium 66 mhz with 4GB of ram, I returned it a few days later and decided to buy a custom made computer from Benitek that was a 120mhz Pentium, 8GB of RAM, Diamond S3 video card, Creative Labs sound card and had a Intel Endeavor mother board. I bought my first used Mac at LSI Logic's employee sale when I was supporting their Microsoft NT 3.51 Servers working for IBM Global Services, it was a Centris 650, I loved it and practiced newtorking Mac OS X 7.5 with Microsoft NT 3.51 Server.
I thought the man and woman's hands were going to touch and cause a magic spark when they both went for that keyboard.
Watching this on something 1000x more powerful that i can carry around in my pocket. Weird to think about
Awesome old footage, thank you so much for this gem! I liked this video and subscribed to your channel :) Looking forward to watching more now!
buying a PC back in the day was basically like buying a car. Loads of technical terms, booklets, etc etc. Not to mention the price. But the feeling of it, was like a part of the future was in your living room.
Wow a massive memory on those laptops! A whole 200MB! :))
That's the hard drive space. Memory was more like 32MB LOL
@@PhilSowden 4 MB actually
I can't wait to go down to my local CompUSA to look at the new computers!
" prices have come down .. "
From about $3000 to $2500
17% is not insignificant.
Thank goodness I found this! I need a new computer, and now I know what to look for! Seriously though, this is a wonderful trip back in time, and I'm grateful that someone is archiving it! I wonder who the phone numbers connect to now. Did anyone archive the computer chronicles forum? They didn't list their website, I guess you had to call the number to get their site info?
16:06 WTF! I thought Bill Gates was advertising an Apple product!
Exactly my thought 😅
He looks like a weird hybrid of Bill Gates and Roger Ebert
@@crushtinbox1 More like Gabe Newell in Bill Gates' attire and hair.
@@sternkrieger1950 gabe newell's brother
I thought that too but if you look at some videos he does advertise Apple products with Apple the real Bill Gates
In another 30 years we'll be watching old MKBHD videos with just as much amazement.
1993, I was a Jr, Sr in high school, it doesn’t feel like nearly 30 years ago damn.
I positively reminisce the past of everything I’ve been through. I’m in the early 30s and I’m glad to be alive to see ahead of new trends of technology.
It's amazing how the numbers they suggest for memory are basically the same as in 2020 but MB instead of GB. So maybe in 2050 we'll be saying "16TB RAM would be nice".
My first computer had no hard drive, ran solely on diskettes, had a turbo button and was monochrome of course. Sometimes I miss that little monster...
“Multi Media PC” I almost forgot that phrase was used. But it was used a lot back then.
Yeah, I remember Pentium processors being advertised with MMX technology for Multimedia purposes. A computer being multimedia capable was considered a huge deal in those days.
How else am I gonna run Encarta?
Computers were called Multimedia PC if they came with speakers and CD-rom drive
You still can say "media PC", but it would refer to something like a machine on Celeron or Pentium
I know all of these comments are older than what I remember, but I distinctly remember the green, "multi-media" windows that spawned off of XP. I was like 8 or 9 at the time and thought that was a power pc.
Pc's where so expensive back then that people that purchased a full set back then just finish paying them around now.
It is all relative to the time...
My uncle was deep in debt for buying a high end 32 Megahertz beast of a computer but couldn't pay it off. He then took a loan from a "nice rich gentleman" in a back alley which helped him pay it off. However he couldn't pay it off in time. Turns out the guy was part of the Mafia and now he's somewhere at the bottom of the ocean.
R.I.P. Uncle Mackey :(
@@cokaneds ye sure buddy, go write a book
@@maleficarus not really. I bought my first proper PC in 1997 and it cost £2,500, which is about £4,700 with inflation. It was high end but point is that 23 years later, I could buy a pre built very high end PC right now for slightly less. And a very decent one for much less.
@@kevinskipp2762 Jesus Christ that's a Mortgage down payment. That's a super high end enthusiast gaming PC money today. That's why we never got a PC until like 1999 and that was an outdated model.
That guy must be related to Jimmy Fallon. He doesnt let those women complete a sentence.😂😂😂
You mean Jimmy Fallon is related to him :p
This video is definitely a blast from the past stuff I had forgotten about back in the day
At first, I just heard "two ...bytes of RAM", and I didn't even register that he said MEGA bytes.
Just. Wow. Early programmers and engineers were amazing what they managed to pull out of these systems.
now you got rockstar asking you 32gb of ram to run red dead redemption 2 in low settings.
Programmers those days were actually good at their job, a good programmer today is the one that doesn't use "black" and "white" lists
My first TRS-80 computer from the early 80's had 4 Kilobytes of RAM and no hard drive. I ran lunar landing simulations on it.
It's crazy how the RAM guidelines are the same numbers as today but in MB instead of GB. Literally 1,000x increase.
just wait a few years more and 512 gb of ram are going to be nothing.
Well, it's because ram comes in powers of 2.
2,4,6,8,16,32,64,128,etc
wow compusa last time I shopped at one was in 2003! crazy how fast time flies by
Good old days of CompUSA?..
I'm very god at computers and if you asked me anything i would know it. I dont understand a thing there talking about what do they mean bay 8mb or 12mb is it the ram or the hard drive. Can some won help me please i am so confused thank you.
I wanna go back in time to 1993 with my 2020 computer and take it to a repair shop just to see what the make of it.
Haha that would be awesome, especially if you have a sleeper pc with a pc case from 1993 like in this video but with all top of the line components and no hdds (only NVME m.2 drives) or optical drives. I'd kill to see their faces!!
Lol they would lose their mind! Sir why do you have red water in your computer...
What makes you think there were computer repair shops in 1993? ;)
I miss the old days computer. It brings back memories and when I was young.
Wonder what these people are doing now..
They are still waiting for there 386 computer to boot up .....
I wondered too. They're on LinkedIn and still nerds.
They are dead.... waiting for their computer to reboot ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
All dead
Wendy Taylor was looking kinda cute, and looks like she's still talking about computers.
Damn these videos are really interesting. The average computer purchaser had to be fairly educated on the products back then. The power of the computers was quite variant, so you might actually be screwed if you make the wrong choice whereas today you can pretty much get whatever power you need from any machine (unless you're heavy into gaming).
Back in 1994, I was a kid who went with my dad to a crowded computer store. Objective was to buy a home pc. My dad had a stack of cash on the way there (people paid in cash), we looked at a variety of things. Phones, printers, personal palm tablets, bulky laptops... it was a such a wonderful time to shop for a computer. Sales folks and everyone who was shopping both asked questions and the level of intellect back then was much better then than now.
Now computers are better but people are worse
30 years ago I was just learning how to type on an old 386 clone at my middle school. I got my first computer in 1997, and that $2,400 beast was quickly obsoleted by the pace of advancing tech. If only these people knew just how fast their state-of-the-art systems would be outclassed. This was two years before Windows 95, even.
Back when 4mb is all you need for Windows... and 16mb is "nice." lol. And here I am in 2020 with 32000mb.
These days those same numbers are in GB. 4 GB is kind of the minimum you need to run Windows 10 smoothly and 16 GB is "nice".
4? you mean 2 ... 4 was already luxury in 1993
You only have 32,000 millibytes?
My L3 cache has more RAM that those old PCs has total system RAM lol
What i remember from the mid 90's regarding computers is that they were rare, slow and very expensive. Only a few of my friends from school had a computer at home, and it was usually old even then.
‘How many megs of ram would I need for gaming?’ ‘Yes’
A glimpse into the past. Awesome.
1993: 2mb of ram computer at $1000
2021: **** graphic card shortage due to crypto mining ****
Ok.
*Graphic card shortage due to a silicon shortage worldwide.
The crypto mining shortage was around 2017-2018
Golden times of IT🥰
8:27 "fry's mousepad" relic
It's interesting how easy the sales pitch was for Apple. In the case of PCs, they had to explain how much RAM you need for every use case and whether or not you should get a sound card or CD ROM unit. With MACs, all they had to say was "this one is for education, this one is for business, they all come bundled with everything you need so you don't even need to know the name of the processing unit or the amount of RAM".
I can totally understand why MACs were popular back in the late 1980s and early 1990s. For a business person, "you plug it in and it works out of the box" is everything they ever wanted to hear. Same for rich families that wanted to feel like they're on the cutting edge of multimedia technology.
I remember this episode. I thought it was very funny that they did not have the first lady walk off the set after Stuart
finished talking to her. She just stood there and he went over to the cute girl. LOL 🤓
You noticed that too Callar, that was funny wasn't it ... LOL ... :-)
Her agent might've told her the screen actors guild required pay for time on screen.
Got my first computer in November of 1993 in 7th grade (thanks mom and dad!). An off-brand from a place called Compuage Computers. Back when there were thousands of vendors of IBM-compatibles.
13:36 I though he F bombed at first when slagging off the direct print vendors.
Lol me too.
I was 6 years old when this was new.
5000.00 will buy a mid range server in today's world! This is crazy!
It makes sense - computer was at its infancy back then. It costed more hours for the R&D and so it was passed on to the consumers.
@@tomzhangus a lot more of the components were made in the USA and assembled in the USA too, outsourcing hadn't hit full swing then just yet.
@Big Foot Nope, it's over 9000, according to the US inflation calculator. The mentioned 1000-5000 dollars would correspond to 1800-9000 dollars today. Laptops were damn expensive back then! You would get three or four for that today. High end, I mean.
I remember getting a PC for $2000 and it was only good for 2 years. Technology moved so fast back then.
Watching this video on my 486 right now.
Enjoying the slideshow?
doubt
It's so awkward that after he's done talking the person just stands there until they are done with the next segment. Let her sit down please!
The comment made about "the Centris machine" being renamed to the Quadra really demonstrates the issues Apple had in the 90s. Too many products and it was difficult to figure out which one was best. Especially when some Performa models were just rebadged Quadra models.
I just an hour ago found some old QBasic programs I wrote in 93, including a Mandelbrot Set generator that took hours and hours :D
It felt quite weird looking at the last modified dates and seeing how old they were, and remembering how much younger I was, and the state of technology at the time.
ONG! QBasic! Most people might know the game “Snake” but I remember it as “Nibbles”
@@Devo_gx It was a bit more fun than GORILLA.BAS :D
@@ian_b Oh yes! The Rampage clone.
Too bad dosemu only runs in Linux, or you still run them...
Could that dude cut her off anymore while she was talking it was driving me crazy.
God! Fuck that guy
@@zacherylaney5652 so it wasn't just me then.
Twitter would cancel him fast AF if he tried that today haha
Amazing video! Like flash back! I am young again! thanks for this..
I have a lot of this videos on CD's comming with the new computer.. just to see, that I did a good buy.. Now is all online like here on youtube..
@8:30Mindblowing... a girl from 1993 telling me to get a mech keyboard for better gaming experience
I bought a 486dx when I came back from Somalia. Boy I remember gaming all night playing wing commander!!
Afterc 486s were introduced, it wasn't long before early pentiums came along with windows 95.
As I recall, Intel released the first Pentiums later in 1993. They ran at the blistering speed of 60 MHz! (66 MHz was also available. . . .)
@@bcarr1122 Early in the year. But they were still quirky, old tech was more reliable. When Win95 came around, the Pentiums were ready to take over.
It's 2020 and we are still in the infancy of computer technology. Imagine computers were as old as literature.