@@need-to-know-honestly it should be a wise man can learn more from their enemies than a normal Joe frok their friends or the wise man can from his own friends. Doing so highlights the power of caring about your enemies to a certain extent of coruse
The show is always better when Doggo’s commentary is in full swing. I can’t believe the 2 of them are able to do that after drinking a bottle of Draino
Do you mean the young teenage girl (age 15?) Ezra is accused of gr00ming? Did Ezra physically assault her as well? WB must be so proud of themselves for shielding Ezra.
Sacking and cancelling John Lasseter plunged Pixar into the downward spiral we're witnessing, starting with Toy Story 4 and how they sullied Woody's dignity in favor of "Girl Power" Peep. John would have never allowed it. He was Pixar's heart and soul.
Supposedly he actually helped write TS4 before he left, not sure how much changed after he left though. I also just saw that movie (Luck) from his new studio, it wasn't very good...
To me there are two main causes of all those blockbusters bombing: - no effort put into writing compelling characters and stories, building scripts around cameos and Easter eggs and links to other movies or series many at this point no longer care about. - turning the moviegoing experience into a political statement, since pushing a radical agenda and being openly antagonistic towards whoever disagrees with it automatically alienates about half of the potential paying audience.
I'd add cost/ time. Movies are longer and more expensive and it means being more picky. There was a time when I'd go see almost anything at the movies because eh it was cheap and a quick couple hours. Now? Nope I really have to want to see something. And that doesn't happen much.
@arisucheddar3097 true... I remember in the 80s and 90s that 90-100 minutes movies were the norm. Now it looks like it's forbidden to release a movie that runs shorter than 2h30' minimum.
I think COVID had a part in it as there was a 2 year lapse in the ability to make a movie. Production got cut in half so now we are left with all these lazy movies and retreads.
It’s so deeply fitting that ticket sales have dropped by half, after years of studios attacking their fans and as you said “alienating half the country”
To think, Pixar films used to be absolute essential viewing. Now, their films are apologetically released without many (myself including) even realising. The day my D+ subscription expired earlier this year was genuine cause for celebration.
It’s sad how far Pixar has fallen. They were unstoppable a decade ago, and now they've become synonymous with Disney's descent into wokery and child indoctrination. And to think they believe Toy Story 5 can save them at this point, LOL
Toy Story 4 was mediocre AF and if that story was truly the reason on why they "needed" to bring it back then it absolutely did not need to be made/told, especially after the incredibly pitch-perfect ending of Toy Story 3. Won't even bother with part 5.
@jediknightgeo They only have 1 franchise they keep going back to. After Monsters University, what other Pixar films are really out there to milk? We've had several Cars films and even branched out into planes. What's next, Trains? Are they coming for Thomas the Tank Engine's lunch? If they try to make an Inside Out sequel about puberty with their _California LA_ politics, that'll be a death sentence.
Pixar was always consistently that one studio you could watch the movie as an adult, take your kids, wished that their movies were around when you were a kid, and enjoy it greatly as an adult just the same. I'm sorry to see it descend. All these major institutions need to *not* be run by a "diverse" committee but by a good old fashioned creative genius whose ego is only outdone by his genius. And yes, there are all sorts of reasons why that person tends to be male, tends to be rich and usually tends to be White or Jewish or Indian or Persian (but of course doesn't necessarily have to be... there are of course talents that are Black or East Asian) but the point is that the talent is the one and only priority.
Pixar’s lane is family friendly movies mainly for kids. They fucked up with “Lightyear” because now parents are wary. It costs a small fortune to see a movie in theatres, so if you take a concept as bland and uninspired as “Elemental” and combine it with the possibility of far left ideas being crammed in, and it’s easy to see why parents may just opt to let little timmy watch monsters inc for the 400th time and eat cheerios instead. Pixar should have stayed in their fucking lane…
Elementals. The anthropomorphism was off. The world and its rules were not established. The character design didnt blend with the world. Story threads had no payoffs, payoffs had no threads. Jokes and gags were flat. The moral of the story was bizarre, the main character was unlikable. Other than that.......
@@dualwieldroxas358 I think wokeness aspect of the flash was the actor doing really bad things IRL and keeping his place coz he's "transgender non binary" or what ever. While kicking out Cavil.
@@RedeyeJedi2985Doing bad things in real life is not being woke. Disney are about as woke as a pet rock. Using the actual meaning of the word woke, is the become aware. Yet Disney keep making bland boring nothingness movies. The problem with putting “The Message” in every movie is that it homogenises all the film you see. All the Disney movies have become basically the same movie. That’s not woke that’s sleep walking! Woke is a meaningless buzzword, there has to be a better term for this corporate BS.
Lets be honest, an animation like Elemental should not cost more than $50million. There is no location shooting, all the productiuon should be well controlled and understood, and you can get good voice actors for not too much money. There must be a lot of padding going on behind the scenes.
I can tell you from first hand experience that voice acting ALONE will rip any production of almost any kind a new asshole. When you take into account the expenses of Animators and Technology you don't even have to talk about any of the rest of the crew to start getting into the tens of millions of dollars for budget. Making this stuff is beyond expensive and that's with using the relatively cheaper medium of 3d animation.
Not only did Warner Bros freak out after BVS didn’t hit a billion, but that was a $250 million movie that had $200 million in product placement in it ( Jeep, Turkish airlines, L’Oréal etc). Meaning it only cost $50 mil + marketing and they still lost the plot. These movies profits carry the entire yearly slate of films. The Flash cost well over $300 million
Correct. Never understood why they thought this would make a Billion - no Snyder film will ever do. Way too controversial. And they released the shit version of the movie too - such a strange company.
Never seen the Jedi guy before, but I like him. He's clever and has a nice blend of chill persona with incisive point-making at key moments. Also doesn't feel a need to insert his opinion into every conversation (but that might just be savvy humility during his debut co-starring role). Anyway, I hope we see more of him and that his increased exposure doesn't hyper-inflate his ego. ;-)
"All men make mistakes, but a good man yields when he knows his course is wrong, and repairs the evil. The only crime is pride."-Sophocles "We learn from failure, not from success."-Bram Stoker Disney and WB is a match made in cinematic hell.
@@aberwood That is why Bram Stoker is the man for he learned from his failures and ended up succeeding in a massive way. But the lesson is that a failure means that you can improve. But if you do not figure out what went wrong then how can have a pray to succeed in the future? Learning from ones mistakes is how the best end up as successes in life.
Once again Smokey the Critical Doggo provided some brilliant insight to the panel with his dry acerbic commentary! 🤣 Doggo is just fun to watch while listening to rest of the panel give such intelligent reviews of the current mess that Disney and Hollywood have created.
I think that studios and critics really underestimated how much Ezra is hated around the world. The Flash is the 4th biggest hero of DC and Batman is the first. Just Batman alone should have saved the movie, if not for the depravity of Ezra Miller, who wasn’t even good in the role. The Flash is not a whiny moany kid!
The only reason Flash floped is because the movie was bad ..not because of ezra miller ...most of the audience doesn't even know ezra miller let alone the crimes he committed.
@juscbhbhuvsdsdvbhjwsdv3843movie was shot before Ezra went crazy ypu were not bitching until after he went crazy which was after this movie was shot minus reshoots
@@lesterparker1594you cant prove he is a pedo not leagaly anyway this movie was shot before he did those crimes your attacking a studio foe something that happened after filmimg minus some post production
The last good movie Pixar put out was Luca in 2021. That is my nephew's favorite movie and it's a shame it never got a theatrical release because every time he comes over he asks to watch Luca and I can't lie, I enjoy watching it with him every time. It's a wholesome story and doesn't try and force "the message" down your throat at all. If you haven't checked Luca out before, I highly suggest it but I will agree everything that has come out since Luca has been pure garbage.
Never argue with a CGI lover... try to explain to them how soul-less it makes movies... I'm fine with it being used for like... space ships and stuff like that, when there's no people on screen, but making an entire fight scene in CGI has always been bad, all the way back to the matrix... it's just been unbearably uncanny vally for me... if the entire movie is animated, no live-action parts, it's fine tho.
@@leargamma4912 I still like the matrix, but not nearly as much as i used to because of the cgi... seriously go back and watch how bad the cgi looks today, like on a modern 4k version, it looks so bad... another example... when the tv show reboot came out, it looked really cool, but go back and watch it today, it looks horrible... but I still enjoy watching it, it just doesn't have that cool factor it had...
@@cyberdarkturtle6971 it really depends... i mean... good practical effects can make up for a bad story, there are a lot of 80s movies with pretty generic stories, and bad acting, but the special effects are pretty good, so it's worth watching just for that... but also they usually have short runtimes of like 80 minutes too, so you'd not be sitting in a theater bored for 2 and a half hours... there's something special about knowing that the actor is actually putting himself in danger, performing stunts, and looking, interacting with, and fighting actual things. and something just sad and depressing and boring, when you know it's a stunt double, or they're just pretending to look at something, not actually doing anything but walking around a green screen.
@BlueCheeseCross95 Ironically before the Flash I didnt wanted to see dark-haired Supergirl having a solo movie. Now I hope she gets a shot if James Gunn can get the new DC going.
i've always found it weird with DC in that they can make really good animated movies but fail tremdously in making it live action. like there has to be a disconnect somewhere along with that clearly they have better writers for their animated movies than they do their live action ones.
I've always said that all the DCEU had to do to be successful is make take for take, scene for scene recreations of the animated films. Even then only the most die hard fans would even notice or care.
Right? The DC Animated Movie Universe from the 2010's is a prime example of them getting it right way more often than not. Most of those movies were great. They were true to the characters they were based on, had tight scripts, and most of all, they were fun to watch.
Possibly because animation and live action are two different medium entirely, so they required different type of director who are more specialize in that medium
Gonna go ahead and also say, as a parent, that I am not paying almost $50 to take my family of four to a crappy movie, especially when two of those tickets are for kids under 4. And most importantly any crappy movie that shoves THE MESSAGE onto my freaking TODDLERS. And for a movie showing that starts a full half hour after the movie is actually supposed to start. And fuck you if you want snacks because that'll be another $20. So not only are studios putting out bad movies, but theaters are always doing bad practices and making showings unaffordable. You're damn right I'm going to wait for streaming, with all of these faults in mind.
How the heck is Sam going fight Red Hulk. It would male more sense for the Thunderbolt to send after him. That would make way more sense and be a better movie. However that raises other question that always puzzled me. Why would any of these characters willfully work for Ross. What is Ross Leverage. Money? Most of them don't care about that. Risk of prison? Most of them are pardon or can just easily go on the run.
phase four should’ve opened with a sequel to TIH or ANOTHER soft reboot where they adapt The Immortal Hulk, and of course within the first ten minutes of the movie Professor Hulk just turns back to Savage Hulk. and we as a people would have all collectively agreed to forget endgame hulk ever happened.
On the topic of the sinking exploration sub: The guy in charge officially - and I quote him - "didn't want to hire experienced, 50 year old white men" to do the engineering for this sub. ->He didn't want skill and experience when he build this thing. He decided that he didn't want white men who have those things when it comes to engineering. So he hired based on "diversity" instead of skill and experience. And - big surprise - he got sub without quality. And now he dies in it. Seems like he got what he wanted and deserved. I'd say this was Karma. I wonder if he regrets hiring based on skin color (which btw is THE definition of racism) instead of skill.
What if Marvel was smart enough to reveal the Secret Invasion stuff as the reason that everything and everyone's been so unlikeable? They've been Skrulls this whole time.
I think the decisive change occurred right after Stan Lee tragically died. I sense he was the main thing holding the jackals back from bringing in their insane agenda and ruining everything he had spent his life creating.
@@danjonmillsnot disagreeing, but to play devil’s advocate here: ‘tragically’ certainly applies to anyone who, upon dying, has their entire life’s work pilfered, their name and image (and Twitter account) repropriated to sell nostalgia, and have no way to do anything to safe-guard his legacy and that which his fans have taken solace in for years. A baby dying early is sad. A king dying late and having vultures tear apart his kingdom, divide his people, and incite discord solely to seek out bigger shares of clout or a treasury is a tragedy. Not because his death is unexpected. Just that his death is far more impactful and the inversion from great good to great bad is far more potent than good to gone.
There was a time when Hollywood spent ever effort trying to figure out what audiences liked. We saw down right foolishness sometimes in this plight, but it kept our interest. Because who doesn't get flattered when someone is genuinely interested in you!?!?!?! But in this past decade, Hollywood seems more concerned with what Hollywood likes, and they no longer care what audiences like! And that my friends is alienating your audience!! Hopefully, they can learn a lesson from this!!
Across the Spiderverse basically blow everything out of the water. It defy all convention. It's a multiverse superhero movie with all diverse cast. They had fanservice, cameo and reference out the wazoo. They had a black protag, they made the black pregnant spider women work, they made the disabled spider women in a wheelchair work, they made minority Spider people work. It's just a great movie.
I mean, more VFX and less story worked for way to long. Then you have many uncreative people, whose only expertise is statistics and numbers. This works? dieal it up to next level, and next level, and next level. Basicly just more untill it breaks. then you add to that the Idealogs and ESG people and you arrive where we are. People who can only identify what worked in the past and do more of that which cant do something new and people who will work against changing course because of "The Message".
To answer your question about how much Ezra Miller being in "The Flash" affected people seeing or not seeing the movie.... The SECOND that I heard that not only would this annoying, abusive creep be in the movie, but there would actually be TWO of him/them/it/those/whatever, I knew I wouldn't give one cent to this film. They could have added Spider-Man, Conan the Barbarian, the original Star Wars cast, ninja otters handing out free Mountain Dew, some Baywatch lifeguards, and sharks with frickin' lasers attached to their heads, and it wouldn't have made one iota of difference.
guardians 3 did so well BECAUSE they couldn’t exploit it, it existed in a vacuum and wasn’t constantly reminding you that there are bigger/better heroes and villains out there
I don’t understand how a studio can continue to greenlight superhero movies - we’ve now had 15 YEARS of superhero mania. This is now going on longer than the Surf/Beach Movie craze of the 60s. An 18yo will now have spent every year of his/her life since kindergarten with like 8 superhero movies releasing every year. It’s run its course. You couldn’t pay me to sit through a new superhero release at this point.
To make the situation with the submarine even more worse than it already is I have just heard that in tribute Celine Dion will be re-releasing My Heart Will Go On
I think at least part of the issue with Elemental was the fact that nothing really was shown by the trailer. I had zero idea of what it could be about except that it might be a cutesy rom-com type movie and I’m just not interested in rom-coms more am I interested in taking chances with with movie unknowns.
Bro I didn't even know there was a Pixar Film coming out called Elementals. This would be absolutely unheard of 4 years ago. What has the world come to?!
The word-of-mouth point is a really good one. not only is no one recommending the going to go see it, people are actually recommending against seeing it.
Losing that D&I officer is a huge loss. She was central to their creative direction, brand new stories, stepping in for Spielberg when needed, a bit of crucial acting here and there. How are they possibly going to fill the void?
It’s really a shame that there isn’t, you know almost endless volumes of comic book canon that could’ve told these directors and studios how to do superhero cameos properly. Because that could’ve been so much fun
It's not "superhero" fatigue. In my opinion is a combination of the general public's "Ezra fatigue" and nerds just not wanting to watch the Flashpoint storyline be adapted for the 4th time. They should have just made a solid Flash story but DC only has one response when it comes to developing The Flash as an IP and that's FLASHPOINT.
Imagine casting Ben Affleck as Batman and not giving him his own standalone movie. That's a prime example of how they fucked up this DC shares universe.
12:14 - given Evans' stated politics most recently, and knowing how rabidly atheistic Joss Whedon has always been, it still amazes me that the first Avengers movie had Cap saying the line, "There's only one God, ma'am. And I'm pretty sure He doesn't dress like that!"
I have always felt that Pixar was overrated anyway. People act like they make the best animated movies in the entire world but i think most of their movies are just good but not amazing or anything like that.
They certainly have some movies that are as amazing as people say. Up, for example is brilliant. Walle is as well. Nothing in the past few years has compared (i can see an argument made for Inside Out, but I personally didnt think it ranks similarly to Up).
It's the same thing as with superhero movies: when these animated movies finally became good in terms of visual quality, a hype train started. Now that we are used to them, they receive more critical evaluation, just pretty isn't good enough any more.
@@antibull4869 I really like the Toy Story movies, Up and The Incredibles but the other Pixar movies that i can remember at the moment are just good movies but not great in my opinion.
Elemental was a huge disappointment--Clunky, boring, with no real plot and unlikable characters. Unfortunately Disney will probably blame the box office on the audience instead of the filmmaking-by-committee's disastrous decisions. If Disney really wants our money that badly, maybe they should create something that amounts to actual entertainment.
I’m barely able to put groceries on my table with a full-time, above-minimum wage job. I’m not spending money on every generic movie that comes by. Oppenheimer will be the first and only movie I get to see this summer. Folks don’t have the pre-Covid cash laying around to drop $15+ on a ticket to a forgettable movie.
It's like a Vegan Restaurant going out of business but thinking the solution is more paprika. Admitting the real problem is nearly impossible for them. Because the message IS THE POINT!
I'm keeping my eye on the independent talents who will rise up like the old fashioned Luke Skywalker and defeat the dark forces of modernity! Another great one Will!
The thing with elemental isn't that it's necessarily a bad or offensive movie (the reviews seem decent at least), it's just the timing and the fact that everyone fully expects it to be on D+ in a month or two. When we've all just gone to the theaters to see Across the Spiderverse, nobody is going to be lining up to watch another animated show like a week later. We'll just wait a bit and watch it at home.
It was more worthwhile as a 3-D viewing experience than the other ones I've seen, including Avatar 2 and the latest Marvel dreck, which are a LOT more eye-rolling than Elemental. I'm surprised that the reviews were so bad after seeing it; its flaws were minor, although I suppose when comparing to Toy Story and Incredibles films, even a great flawed film is still seen as a flawed film by comparison. I can see some potential as a sleeper hit similar to The Shawshank Redemption (although not in the same league, obviously). The real test would be if Pixar comes out with a film the critics and amateur reviewers love but audiences still stay home for. That would indicate whether the problem is quality or the problem is Disney+.
Sliiight correction... Hella was not any kind of 'good guy' And she also gets beaten by a guy assuming that you can count surtur as a guy... So there are exceptions to the disney rulebook... It only counts in like 95% of the occurances...
In the pitch room: "These progressive movies with a race-swapped cast, a strong female lead, and cucked white males are losing a ton of money. What should we do next?" "How about a progressive movie with a race-swapped characters a strong female lead, and cucked white male characters?" "You're a genius! Let's do it."
If they wanted to keep Ezra Miller they should have mad him a villain. Like reverse flash or yellow flash. Imagine him wearing his crazy outfits and learning not to be a weirdo in a movie.
The Thunderbolts flick doesn't even have any of the Thunderbolts. It's just a bunch of Black Widow & Cap adjacent characters, plus Ghost and Thunderbolt Ross. They basically like the Thunderbolts name, remembered that they had a character called Thunderbolt Ross, and thought, "Hey, let's do a military/spy themed Charlie's Angels".
Being a child of the 80's and scarred by watching Robocop WAY too young, I never thought I'd see the day when huge financial corporations were no longer interested in making money.
Disney invested 2.75 Billion overall across 8 films; They had a ROI of 1.86 Billion. That's a 890 Mil Loss, and that's not covering the Disney+ subscription losses vs the promotional materials and maintenance costs for the platform. Plus the loss of whatever percentage they got through 3rd Party contracts for royalties such as Netflix (Daredevil, Punisher , etc) the Theme Park Sales drop, AND Kathleen Kennedy. Disney is fucked.
Companies may control what products we're able to consume, but we control their money. The customer is always the one in true control because if they really want to, they can shut off your revenue like a switch and then what are you gonna do?
Prettu sure people watched Strange 2 to see where the MCU was going. Because that was the starting point for the whole multiverse stuff. Like, they went to give it a chance and didn't like it.
Budget actually has very little consideration in the larger money-making equation for two reasons. 1) They prefer nominal gains over percentile gains. They would rather bring in $1B on a $500M budget ($500M/100% profit) than $300M on a $50M budget ($250M/500% profit). 2) Most of the budget is covered by grants and writeoffs they wouldn't otherwise have access to without spending first.
5:20 as a shareholder, I expect at least 50-70%+ returns on movies, to make up for the flops. Otherwise, how do we cover the losses on bad movies if good movies barely break even? I don't understand how Disney is still getting away with this. I don't listen to their shareholder meetings, but I wouldn't be able quiet if it was my investment.
Man, I'm glad I decided that Endgame would be my hop-off point, since raising the bar narrative-wise after Thanos would be close to impossible. Marvel has produced so much that can't even get to the level of the first Ant-Man movie.
Guardians, Spiderman, and mario are polar opposites from Indiana jones, elemental, and flash. So thankfully are still actual writers and directors out there.
8:19 Yes! Thank you! This is a gripe I’ve had with films for ages! Why do they all have to have overblown budgets?! Films can look just as great for only half or even a quarter of the budget of the average superhero film. Perhaps if they didn’t spend so much damn money, most of phase 4 and 5 wouldn’t have flopped. I’m going to try and keep the budgets of my films at or below $100 million, but the absolute maximum I’m willing to spend on my films is $150 million.
@@lamrethal695 true for the average actor no question. On the other hand it is crazy to think that brad Pitt, Margot Robbie and the like actually go on strike though.... What a joke
Avatar The Way of Water made $2,320,250,281(!!). Keep that in mind when you think about how much money studios are leaving on the table by praying to "the message"
“A wise man can learn more from his enemies than a fool from his friends”
If only they would've listened to the people they hate the most.
A wise man will learn more than a fool, regardless of the source.
@@guanoguy4800yeah but listen to the proverb and get what it’s saying about learning, not about the fool vs the wise.
@@need-to-know-honestly it should be a wise man can learn more from their enemies than a normal Joe frok their friends or the wise man can from his own friends. Doing so highlights the power of caring about your enemies to a certain extent of coruse
@@iironhide6209 That’s not the point of this proverb either. Man, you guys are killing me!
Japanese anime would like to have a word with you about that
Critical Doggo's wisdom and input regarding the disappointment that is The Flash and The Elemental is accurate as always.
Yep, his 'grimacing' when The Longman asked "Who is going to recommend The Flash" right at the end was spot on. 🙂
Critical Doggo gives these movies exactly the respect and attention they deserve.
Sharpest film reviewer in the business
And hasn't had a bud light in months. Absolute chad.
The show is always better when Doggo’s commentary is in full swing. I can’t believe the 2 of them are able to do that after drinking a bottle of Draino
The Flash got beat worse than Ezra's date.
Oooof.
That was unnecessary. Much like the movie!
Do you mean the young teenage girl (age 15?) Ezra is accused of gr00ming? Did Ezra physically assault her as well?
WB must be so proud of themselves for shielding Ezra.
@@dronesclubhighjinksthat's because WB ceo is old man and Ezra is beating him up every Day. Ezra has habit to beat elderly folks.
FLASH!!!
AaAaaaaaaaaaaah!!!
The only reason Multiverse of Madness did well was because we were led to believe that it would tie into No Way Home. My god were we ever wrong.
The Captain Marvel scheme...
Seriously I was mad when I left that theatre, wasted ass potential.
No you
I only had interest cuz Sam Raimi directed it. Lol
And Sam Raimi, mostly Sam Raimi
Ezra Miller is a such a cultural cancer, you can’t even cast him as reverse flash.
Especially with the homo erotic “It was Me, Barry” scene.
"it was me, the mad goose wizard"
@@zoonisha4387 “it was me, Barry. I made Lola Bunny so attractive so you would get horny and be too slow to save Iris”
It’s me Barry
JR: Aw son of a bitch
It was me Barry, it was me all along Barry
@@bradcarver8127 Thomas Wayne with guns: you didn’t say “no homo”
what are ypu talkimg about
Sacking and cancelling John Lasseter plunged Pixar into the downward spiral we're witnessing, starting with Toy Story 4 and how they sullied Woody's dignity in favor of "Girl Power" Peep. John would have never allowed it. He was Pixar's heart and soul.
why was he fired?
@@nihilismistheonlyway4680 Sex pest crimes
Supposedly he actually helped write TS4 before he left, not sure how much changed after he left though. I also just saw that movie (Luck) from his new studio, it wasn't very good...
He was fired because he wouldn't allow it.
Toy Story 4 was fantastic if you ask me
It's like politics. There's a market for authenticity, but they insist on treating us like crap.
Serves them right.
This is when new players emerge.
Good analogy 👍, so good it breaks the analogy because movies ARE politics.
@@justinkennedy3004 No, everything is not politics ya loon.
What if the new players are just as bad?
@@SirBlackReeds some will be worse, some will be better. We select the best. It's how capitalism works.
Don't give money to people who hate you.
@@SirBlackReeds If?? Nothing has shown they learned their lesson. It's almost a certainty.
To me there are two main causes of all those blockbusters bombing:
- no effort put into writing compelling characters and stories, building scripts around cameos and Easter eggs and links to other movies or series many at this point no longer care about.
- turning the moviegoing experience into a political statement, since pushing a radical agenda and being openly antagonistic towards whoever disagrees with it automatically alienates about half of the potential paying audience.
I'd add cost/ time. Movies are longer and more expensive and it means being more picky. There was a time when I'd go see almost anything at the movies because eh it was cheap and a quick couple hours. Now? Nope I really have to want to see something. And that doesn't happen much.
@arisucheddar3097 true... I remember in the 80s and 90s that 90-100 minutes movies were the norm. Now it looks like it's forbidden to release a movie that runs shorter than 2h30' minimum.
I think COVID had a part in it as there was a 2 year lapse in the ability to make a movie. Production got cut in half so now we are left with all these lazy movies and retreads.
It’s so deeply fitting that ticket sales have dropped by half, after years of studios attacking their fans and as you said “alienating half the country”
It's more than half 😈
More like alienating 95% of the population
To think, Pixar films used to be absolute essential viewing. Now, their films are apologetically released without many (myself including) even realising. The day my D+ subscription expired earlier this year was genuine cause for celebration.
It’s sad how far Pixar has fallen. They were unstoppable a decade ago, and now they've become synonymous with Disney's descent into wokery and child indoctrination. And to think they believe Toy Story 5 can save them at this point, LOL
I hate what Disney has done to Pixar - I used to really like their movies!
Toy Story 4 was mediocre AF and if that story was truly the reason on why they "needed" to bring it back then it absolutely did not need to be made/told, especially after the incredibly pitch-perfect ending of Toy Story 3. Won't even bother with part 5.
Soul was one of my favorite movies of all time. And Disney just dumped that gem on Disney+ during the pandemic. My favorite Pixar movie.
@jediknightgeo They only have 1 franchise they keep going back to. After Monsters University, what other Pixar films are really out there to milk? We've had several Cars films and even branched out into planes. What's next, Trains? Are they coming for Thomas the Tank Engine's lunch? If they try to make an Inside Out sequel about puberty with their _California LA_ politics, that'll be a death sentence.
Pixar was always consistently that one studio you could watch the movie as an adult, take your kids, wished that their movies were around when you were a kid, and enjoy it greatly as an adult just the same.
I'm sorry to see it descend. All these major institutions need to *not* be run by a "diverse" committee but by a good old fashioned creative genius whose ego is only outdone by his genius. And yes, there are all sorts of reasons why that person tends to be male, tends to be rich and usually tends to be White or Jewish or Indian or Persian (but of course doesn't necessarily have to be... there are of course talents that are Black or East Asian) but the point is that the talent is the one and only priority.
The silver lining of all these terrible movies in theaters is that I'm rediscovering outdoor activities like just simply going for a walk.
Pixar’s lane is family friendly movies mainly for kids. They fucked up with “Lightyear” because now parents are wary. It costs a small fortune to see a movie in theatres, so if you take a concept as bland and uninspired as “Elemental” and combine it with the possibility of far left ideas being crammed in, and it’s easy to see why parents may just opt to let little timmy watch monsters inc for the 400th time and eat cheerios instead.
Pixar should have stayed in their fucking lane…
The look of complete and utter schadenfreude on Gary's face when Drinker is reading out the box office numbers for Elemental is GOLD! lol
In wich minute?
@@gabrielcancelado2490 About a minute in, did you not watch the video?
@babyclay7215 Thanks mate
Elementals. The anthropomorphism was off. The world and its rules were not established. The character design didnt blend with the world. Story threads had no payoffs, payoffs had no threads. Jokes and gags were flat. The moral of the story was bizarre, the main character was unlikable. Other than that.......
If Wokeness needs to sink Disney for the rest of Hollywood to wake up, then I'm perfectly ok with that.
Nah, this one wasn't wokeness. It was sheer incompetance and a terrible lead (both in the movie as an actor and IRL)
Well disneys a girls brand, let it fail
@@dualwieldroxas358 I think wokeness aspect of the flash was the actor doing really bad things IRL and keeping his place coz he's "transgender non binary" or what ever. While kicking out Cavil.
@@RedeyeJedi2985Doing bad things in real life is not being woke. Disney are about as woke as a pet rock. Using the actual meaning of the word woke, is the become aware. Yet Disney keep making bland boring nothingness movies. The problem with putting “The Message” in every movie is that it homogenises all the film you see. All the Disney movies have become basically the same movie. That’s not woke that’s sleep walking! Woke is a meaningless buzzword, there has to be a better term for this corporate BS.
I'm not sure who's worse WB or Disney, one is woke and the other keeps criminals aka Ezra and amber turd.
Lets be honest, an animation like Elemental should not cost more than $50million. There is no location shooting, all the productiuon should be well controlled and understood, and you can get good voice actors for not too much money. There must be a lot of padding going on behind the scenes.
who knows how much it cost they might be just saying it cost x millions just as a pr move to make it looks like they work hard
I can tell you from first hand experience that voice acting ALONE will rip any production of almost any kind a new asshole. When you take into account the expenses of Animators and Technology you don't even have to talk about any of the rest of the crew to start getting into the tens of millions of dollars for budget. Making this stuff is beyond expensive and that's with using the relatively cheaper medium of 3d animation.
@@tsukasa67 There's a film called Star Wreck: In the Pirkining that a bunch of people made for fun, total cost was $15,000.
Hollywood is obsolete.
Not only did Warner Bros freak out after BVS didn’t hit a billion, but that was a $250 million movie that had $200 million in product placement in it ( Jeep, Turkish airlines, L’Oréal etc). Meaning it only cost $50 mil + marketing and they still lost the plot. These movies profits carry the entire yearly slate of films. The Flash cost well over $300 million
Correct. Never understood why they thought this would make a Billion - no Snyder film will ever do. Way too controversial. And they released the shit version of the movie too - such a strange company.
Never seen the Jedi guy before, but I like him. He's clever and has a nice blend of chill persona with incisive point-making at key moments. Also doesn't feel a need to insert his opinion into every conversation (but that might just be savvy humility during his debut co-starring role). Anyway, I hope we see more of him and that his increased exposure doesn't hyper-inflate his ego. ;-)
I normally wait until I see a guest on here at least a few times before I check out their channel. Thus far everyone has been good.
"All men make mistakes, but a good man yields when he knows his course is wrong, and repairs the evil. The only crime is pride."-Sophocles
"We learn from failure, not from success."-Bram Stoker
Disney and WB is a match made in cinematic hell.
Failure is what happens when you don't succeed
- someone famous
@@aberwood That is why Bram Stoker is the man for he learned from his failures and ended up succeeding in a massive way.
But the lesson is that a failure means that you can improve. But if you do not figure out what went wrong then how can have a pray to succeed in the future?
Learning from ones mistakes is how the best end up as successes in life.
Once again Smokey the Critical Doggo provided some brilliant insight to the panel with his dry acerbic commentary! 🤣 Doggo is just fun to watch while listening to rest of the panel give such intelligent reviews of the current mess that Disney and Hollywood have created.
*insight (not "incite")
What a smart, ironic comment I haven't already read 17 times!
@@Eidolon1andOnly Thanks.
I think that studios and critics really underestimated how much Ezra is hated around the world. The Flash is the 4th biggest hero of DC and Batman is the first. Just Batman alone should have saved the movie, if not for the depravity of Ezra Miller, who wasn’t even good in the role. The Flash is not a whiny moany kid!
It shouldn’t have made a single penny. I can’t believe there’s a single person that would support a groomer pedo criminal by paying to watch it
The only reason Flash floped is because the movie was bad ..not because of ezra miller ...most of the audience doesn't even know ezra miller let alone the crimes he committed.
@@LifeSaloon I heard a lot of people saying that Ezra is the reason they aren’t going to see the movie!
@juscbhbhuvsdsdvbhjwsdv3843movie was shot before Ezra went crazy ypu were not bitching until after he went crazy which was after this movie was shot minus reshoots
@@lesterparker1594you cant prove he is a pedo not leagaly anyway this movie was shot before he did those crimes your attacking a studio foe something that happened after filmimg minus some post production
I wonder how their assertion that "people will forget what Ezra did" has gone for them...
Lol they used Ezra for continuity purposes.
Pixar thinks they can pull off another Toy Story 4 lmao. Audiences are not that dumb, and soon they’ll realize Pixar’s tricks are getting old
The last good movie Pixar put out was Luca in 2021. That is my nephew's favorite movie and it's a shame it never got a theatrical release because every time he comes over he asks to watch Luca and I can't lie, I enjoy watching it with him every time. It's a wholesome story and doesn't try and force "the message" down your throat at all. If you haven't checked Luca out before, I highly suggest it but I will agree everything that has come out since Luca has been pure garbage.
The fact that Chris Evans was in Lightyear, no doubt, hurt that film even more.
I don't really think so. I think replacing Tim Allen with ANYONE was a mistake, not Evans specifically.
I passed on Lightyear just because Tim Allen wasn’t in it, and it looks like I was right to.
I passed on lightyear because I don't give money to people who hate me.
Didn't chris evans post nudes in his Twitter or was it another chris
Never argue with a CGI lover... try to explain to them how soul-less it makes movies... I'm fine with it being used for like... space ships and stuff like that, when there's no people on screen, but making an entire fight scene in CGI has always been bad, all the way back to the matrix... it's just been unbearably uncanny vally for me... if the entire movie is animated, no live-action parts, it's fine tho.
The matrix did it well, but at least there they didn't overdo it and had a good plot to back it up
@@leargamma4912 I still like the matrix, but not nearly as much as i used to because of the cgi... seriously go back and watch how bad the cgi looks today, like on a modern 4k version, it looks so bad...
another example... when the tv show reboot came out, it looked really cool, but go back and watch it today, it looks horrible... but I still enjoy watching it, it just doesn't have that cool factor it had...
Agree, with the amount of CGI multiverse of madness had I thought to myself "wouldn't be better if it was a 3D animated film rather than life action?"
CGI and a good story will always be better thana practical effects and a bad story. The flash has the worst of both worlds
@@cyberdarkturtle6971 it really depends... i mean... good practical effects can make up for a bad story, there are a lot of 80s movies with pretty generic stories, and bad acting, but the special effects are pretty good, so it's worth watching just for that... but also they usually have short runtimes of like 80 minutes too, so you'd not be sitting in a theater bored for 2 and a half hours...
there's something special about knowing that the actor is actually putting himself in danger, performing stunts, and looking, interacting with, and fighting actual things.
and something just sad and depressing and boring, when you know it's a stunt double, or they're just pretending to look at something, not actually doing anything but walking around a green screen.
Long live the Star Wars Holiday Special
Say what you want about that atrocity, it was unintenially bad, but THIS, this scares me.
I would love for Disney to make a Lego version of this for Disney + holiday 2023.
The fact that the Flash still made 140 million is evidence that trash will always sell.
The reason was because Keaton was in it and they thought that would lead to the movie being halfway good.
Batman and a non woke Supergirl, it had some high points from what I heard.
@BlueCheeseCross95 Ironically before the Flash I didnt wanted to see dark-haired Supergirl having a solo movie. Now I hope she gets a shot if James Gunn can get the new DC going.
got a huge population of sheep in them coastal cities
One might say that 140 million is the worth of the Keaton Batman.
Probably even more, but Ezra clearly has a negative value.
As always, Smokey's insight is spot on.
I like how Smokey reacted to Drinker mentioning "The Flash."
Almost as if to say "Oh no, not this again."
i've always found it weird with DC in that they can make really good animated movies but fail tremdously in making it live action. like there has to be a disconnect somewhere along with that clearly they have better writers for their animated movies than they do their live action ones.
I've always said that all the DCEU had to do to be successful is make take for take, scene for scene recreations of the animated films. Even then only the most die hard fans would even notice or care.
Right? The DC Animated Movie Universe from the 2010's is a prime example of them getting it right way more often than not. Most of those movies were great. They were true to the characters they were based on, had tight scripts, and most of all, they were fun to watch.
Animated films are made for fans. Live action is for general public.
@@shanonsnyder9450 Make it for fans and maybe…..just maybe you’ll create new fans from the general public.
Possibly because animation and live action are two different medium entirely, so they required different type of director who are more specialize in that medium
Gonna go ahead and also say, as a parent, that I am not paying almost $50 to take my family of four to a crappy movie, especially when two of those tickets are for kids under 4. And most importantly any crappy movie that shoves THE MESSAGE onto my freaking TODDLERS. And for a movie showing that starts a full half hour after the movie is actually supposed to start. And fuck you if you want snacks because that'll be another $20.
So not only are studios putting out bad movies, but theaters are always doing bad practices and making showings unaffordable. You're damn right I'm going to wait for streaming, with all of these faults in mind.
On June 21st, Flash was actually *below* Elemental domestically ...
1:00 Critical Doggo briefly toyed with the idea of getting up, before deciding against it. I've had those days.
Cap America 4 is basically a sequel to The Incredible Hulk, starring Red Hulk.
How the heck is Sam going fight Red Hulk. It would male more sense for the Thunderbolt to send after him. That would make way more sense and be a better movie. However that raises other question that always puzzled me. Why would any of these characters willfully work for Ross. What is Ross Leverage. Money? Most of them don't care about that. Risk of prison? Most of them are pardon or can just easily go on the run.
Lol Cap 4 is going to flop.
Nobody cares about token cap and the rest look equally as shit
phase four should’ve opened with a sequel to TIH or ANOTHER soft reboot where they adapt The Immortal Hulk, and of course within the first ten minutes of the movie Professor Hulk just turns back to Savage Hulk. and we as a people would have all collectively agreed to forget endgame hulk ever happened.
On the topic of the sinking exploration sub:
The guy in charge officially - and I quote him - "didn't want to hire experienced, 50 year old white men" to do the engineering for this sub.
->He didn't want skill and experience when he build this thing.
He decided that he didn't want white men who have those things when it comes to engineering.
So he hired based on "diversity" instead of skill and experience.
And - big surprise - he got sub without quality.
And now he dies in it.
Seems like he got what he wanted and deserved.
I'd say this was Karma.
I wonder if he regrets hiring based on skin color (which btw is THE definition of racism) instead of skill.
What if Marvel was smart enough to reveal the Secret Invasion stuff as the reason that everything and everyone's been so unlikeable? They've been Skrulls this whole time.
I think the decisive change occurred right after Stan Lee tragically died. I sense he was the main thing holding the jackals back from bringing in their insane agenda and ruining everything he had spent his life creating.
'Tragically' - he was a very old man; everyone dies.
Babies dying is tragic.
Just saying.
@@danjonmillsdick
Yeah... If you're over 90 years old and get hit by a bus it's still natural causes. A younger person would've moved out of the way.
@@danjonmillsnot disagreeing, but to play devil’s advocate here: ‘tragically’ certainly applies to anyone who, upon dying, has their entire life’s work pilfered, their name and image (and Twitter account) repropriated to sell nostalgia, and have no way to do anything to safe-guard his legacy and that which his fans have taken solace in for years.
A baby dying early is sad.
A king dying late and having vultures tear apart his kingdom, divide his people, and incite discord solely to seek out bigger shares of clout or a treasury is a tragedy. Not because his death is unexpected. Just that his death is far more impactful and the inversion from great good to great bad is far more potent than good to gone.
He wasn't. He had absolutely no control over the MCU. His executive producer credit is an honorary one. It's the studio saying "thanks for existing."
There was a time when Hollywood spent ever effort trying to figure out what audiences liked. We saw down right foolishness sometimes in this plight, but it kept our interest. Because who doesn't get flattered when someone is genuinely interested in you!?!?!?! But in this past decade, Hollywood seems more concerned with what Hollywood likes, and they no longer care what audiences like! And that my friends is alienating your audience!! Hopefully, they can learn a lesson from this!!
Across the Spiderverse basically blow everything out of the water. It defy all convention.
It's a multiverse superhero movie with all diverse cast. They had fanservice, cameo and reference out the wazoo.
They had a black protag, they made the black pregnant spider women work, they made the disabled spider women in a wheelchair work, they made minority Spider people work.
It's just a great movie.
Remember when films were made to entertain? Not just to squeeze money out of us.
Or push a damn narrative!
No
Funny how the ones who stick to that, like Top Gun Maverick, make bank, innit?
I mean, more VFX and less story worked for way to long. Then you have many uncreative people, whose only expertise is statistics and numbers. This works? dieal it up to next level, and next level, and next level. Basicly just more untill it breaks.
then you add to that the Idealogs and ESG people and you arrive where we are.
People who can only identify what worked in the past and do more of that which cant do something new and people who will work against changing course because of "The Message".
They were always about squeezing money... They just knew to get more out of us, make it fun.
The Disney ship is sinking, and is dragging PIXAR with it.
It's not disastrously....it's deliciously.
We LOVE this delicious disaster.
It's like watching a car crash in slow motion haha.
It's 10 hobos doing a man pile in the back of an abandoned Prius that was set on fire!
I once thought theaters were bringing down movies and now I understand its the movies bringing down the theaters
To answer your question about how much Ezra Miller being in "The Flash" affected people seeing or not seeing the movie....
The SECOND that I heard that not only would this annoying, abusive creep be in the movie, but there would actually be TWO of him/them/it/those/whatever, I knew I wouldn't give one cent to this film. They could have added Spider-Man, Conan the Barbarian, the original Star Wars cast, ninja otters handing out free Mountain Dew, some Baywatch lifeguards, and sharks with frickin' lasers attached to their heads, and it wouldn't have made one iota of difference.
guardians 3 did so well BECAUSE they couldn’t exploit it, it existed in a vacuum and wasn’t constantly reminding you that there are bigger/better heroes and villains out there
They should have released Extraction 2 in movie theaters. Guaranteed box office bank. The movie is made for the big screen.
Too true; I don't have/want Netflix.
Does Critical Doggo drink as much as the drinker? Every time he’s on screen he’s just laying around hungover
I don’t understand how a studio can continue to greenlight superhero movies - we’ve now had 15 YEARS of superhero mania.
This is now going on longer than the Surf/Beach Movie craze of the 60s.
An 18yo will now have spent every year of his/her life since kindergarten with like 8 superhero movies releasing every year. It’s run its course. You couldn’t pay me to sit through a new superhero release at this point.
I disagree the quality going down is the main problem everything feels the same these days. We need better stories
To make the situation with the submarine even more worse than it already is I have just heard that in tribute Celine Dion will be re-releasing My Heart Will Go On
There actually was a movie in the 70's called "Grey Lady Down" starring Charlton Heston, about a sub sinking and the rescue mission to save the crew.
Grey Lady Down sounds like a gilf flick on xhamster.
I think at least part of the issue with Elemental was the fact that nothing really was shown by the trailer. I had zero idea of what it could be about except that it might be a cutesy rom-com type movie and I’m just not interested in rom-coms more am I interested in taking chances with with movie unknowns.
The problem with Elemental is that this story has been retold a million times.
The problem with Elemental is its Disney talking about racism again... just like every other movie they release.
Bro I didn't even know there was a Pixar Film coming out called Elementals. This would be absolutely unheard of 4 years ago. What has the world come to?!
“Remember when movies were good?”
-Bilbo Baggins
Irony. The hobbit sucked
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Bilbo was in LOTR as well.
@@Kernwadi And that sucked too
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Go stand in a corner.
Nah. Ask any serious LotR fan and they'll say it sucked.
Half the lore was missing.
The word-of-mouth point is a really good one. not only is no one recommending the going to go see it, people are actually recommending against seeing it.
Losing that D&I officer is a huge loss. She was central to their creative direction, brand new stories, stepping in for Spielberg when needed, a bit of crucial acting here and there. How are they possibly going to fill the void?
Shut up Fox News
It's sarcasm, genius
"D&I"? What happened to "DEI"?
@@_Dovar_It DIEd
@@hassathunter2464
When did they start to change that name?
It’s really a shame that there isn’t, you know almost endless volumes of comic book canon that could’ve told these directors and studios how to do superhero cameos properly. Because that could’ve been so much fun
It's not "superhero" fatigue. In my opinion is a combination of the general public's "Ezra fatigue" and nerds just not wanting to watch the Flashpoint storyline be adapted for the 4th time. They should have just made a solid Flash story but DC only has one response when it comes to developing The Flash as an IP and that's FLASHPOINT.
I have superhero fatigue
@@deadschooledI have pg 13 superhero fatigue like to see more r rated heroes fighting
capeshit must go
I'm sick of superheroes... I can't even be bothered with The Boys anymore
Imagine casting Ben Affleck as Batman and not giving him his own standalone movie. That's a prime example of how they fucked up this DC shares universe.
But we've had plenty of Batman movies
Eh, BvS was enough Battflek for me... too much already even.
@hassathunter2464 Lol not enough you mean.
Most accurate Batman ever.
Pattinson was decent 2 as a Year One version.
I totally dug it
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 True, but we have those 'cuz Batman is popular and people wanna see Batman movies!
@salinium Well duh.
12:14 - given Evans' stated politics most recently, and knowing how rabidly atheistic Joss Whedon has always been, it still amazes me that the first Avengers movie had Cap saying the line, "There's only one God, ma'am. And I'm pretty sure He doesn't dress like that!"
That's because they understand the character and choose to not push their beliefs like a puppet
I have always felt that Pixar was overrated anyway.
People act like they make the best animated movies in the entire world but i think most of their movies are just good but not amazing or anything like that.
DreamWorks is far better.
They certainly have some movies that are as amazing as people say.
Up, for example is brilliant. Walle is as well.
Nothing in the past few years has compared (i can see an argument made for Inside Out, but I personally didnt think it ranks similarly to Up).
It's the same thing as with superhero movies: when these animated movies finally became good in terms of visual quality, a hype train started. Now that we are used to them, they receive more critical evaluation, just pretty isn't good enough any more.
Soul was an incredible Pixar movie. My favorite Pixar.
@@antibull4869 I really like the Toy Story movies, Up and The Incredibles but the other Pixar movies that i can remember at the moment are just good movies but not great in my opinion.
Elemental was a huge disappointment--Clunky, boring, with no real plot and unlikable characters. Unfortunately Disney will probably blame the box office on the audience instead of the filmmaking-by-committee's disastrous decisions. If Disney really wants our money that badly, maybe they should create something that amounts to actual entertainment.
I’m barely able to put groceries on my table with a full-time, above-minimum wage job. I’m not spending money on every generic movie that comes by. Oppenheimer will be the first and only movie I get to see this summer. Folks don’t have the pre-Covid cash laying around to drop $15+ on a ticket to a forgettable movie.
It's like a Vegan Restaurant going out of business but thinking the solution is more paprika. Admitting the real problem is nearly impossible for them. Because the message IS THE POINT!
What is the real problem that vegan restaurants are facing?
@@theKLT I imagine the same sorts of problems all restaurants face
I'm keeping my eye on the independent talents who will rise up like the old fashioned Luke Skywalker and defeat the dark forces of modernity! Another great one Will!
The thing with elemental isn't that it's necessarily a bad or offensive movie (the reviews seem decent at least), it's just the timing and the fact that everyone fully expects it to be on D+ in a month or two. When we've all just gone to the theaters to see Across the Spiderverse, nobody is going to be lining up to watch another animated show like a week later. We'll just wait a bit and watch it at home.
It was more worthwhile as a 3-D viewing experience than the other ones I've seen, including Avatar 2 and the latest Marvel dreck, which are a LOT more eye-rolling than Elemental. I'm surprised that the reviews were so bad after seeing it; its flaws were minor, although I suppose when comparing to Toy Story and Incredibles films, even a great flawed film is still seen as a flawed film by comparison. I can see some potential as a sleeper hit similar to The Shawshank Redemption (although not in the same league, obviously). The real test would be if Pixar comes out with a film the critics and amateur reviewers love but audiences still stay home for. That would indicate whether the problem is quality or the problem is Disney+.
Sliiight correction... Hella was not any kind of 'good guy'
And she also gets beaten by a guy assuming that you can count surtur as a guy...
So there are exceptions to the disney rulebook...
It only counts in like 95% of the occurances...
Anyone voiced by Clancy Brown is definitely a guy.
They alienated half the country indeed and it's the half who actually spend money.
Wait... the release of Elemental coincides with Pride month and it _still_ tanks harder than the Titan? That's precious 😂
It’s almost like 95% of people ignore pride month.
Eric July being a part of these more often is such a positive
lol no
In the pitch room:
"These progressive movies with a race-swapped cast, a strong female lead, and cucked white males are losing a ton of money. What should we do next?"
"How about a progressive movie with a race-swapped characters a strong female lead, and cucked white male characters?"
"You're a genius! Let's do it."
My favorite part of The Flash was when Miller said “it’s flashing time” and flashed the kids *he kidnapped*.
He kidnapped children? I thought he molested children or something
If they wanted to keep Ezra Miller they should have mad him a villain. Like reverse flash or yellow flash. Imagine him wearing his crazy outfits and learning not to be a weirdo in a movie.
The Thunderbolts flick doesn't even have any of the Thunderbolts. It's just a bunch of Black Widow & Cap adjacent characters, plus Ghost and Thunderbolt Ross. They basically like the Thunderbolts name, remembered that they had a character called Thunderbolt Ross, and thought, "Hey, let's do a military/spy themed Charlie's Angels".
Being a child of the 80's and scarred by watching Robocop WAY too young, I never thought I'd see the day when huge financial corporations were no longer interested in making money.
Disney invested 2.75 Billion overall across 8 films; They had a ROI of 1.86 Billion. That's a 890 Mil Loss, and that's not covering the Disney+ subscription losses vs the promotional materials and maintenance costs for the platform. Plus the loss of whatever percentage they got through 3rd Party contracts for royalties such as Netflix (Daredevil, Punisher , etc) the Theme Park Sales drop, AND Kathleen Kennedy. Disney is fucked.
Companies may control what products we're able to consume, but we control their money. The customer is always the one in true control because if they really want to, they can shut off your revenue like a switch and then what are you gonna do?
Prettu sure people watched Strange 2 to see where the MCU was going. Because that was the starting point for the whole multiverse stuff. Like, they went to give it a chance and didn't like it.
We hold the power. Vote with your wallet.
movie was not woke and shot before ezra went to prision they had to release it to cut some of there losses it was either scrap it or make some bucks
Black Clover: Sword of the Wizard King movie is more enjoyable to watch compared to The Flash and The Elemental.
correction... they are not used to working hard but pushed out everyone that did work hard.
I watched the first 45 minutes of that crap with my 14 year old son, if he didn't like it then that really means its a turd😂😂
Budget actually has very little consideration in the larger money-making equation for two reasons.
1) They prefer nominal gains over percentile gains. They would rather bring in $1B on a $500M budget ($500M/100% profit) than $300M on a $50M budget ($250M/500% profit).
2) Most of the budget is covered by grants and writeoffs they wouldn't otherwise have access to without spending first.
Thing to remember is Deadpool 2 had the PG 13 cut. So the studio was already wavering on the R rating before. I have very little hope for Deadpool 3.
I think Hollywood’s economics should be viewed more like defence procurement than entertainment economics.
😂😂👍
5:20 as a shareholder, I expect at least 50-70%+ returns on movies, to make up for the flops. Otherwise, how do we cover the losses on bad movies if good movies barely break even? I don't understand how Disney is still getting away with this. I don't listen to their shareholder meetings, but I wouldn't be able quiet if it was my investment.
Elemental wants to teach children that racism is inherent in all beings. 😢 Protect your children.
Unless I misunderstand you, isn't Christianity stating the same thing?
*Experiences lag*
*gets angry*
*throws 🎮 controller against wall*
Everyone else in the submarine:
😮
Cool to see Jedi Brooks on the show. I recently found his channel and he’s funny and insightful.
I love when Gary corpsed over MauLer's casual descriptor of "tism."
Man, I'm glad I decided that Endgame would be my hop-off point, since raising the bar narrative-wise after Thanos would be close to impossible. Marvel has produced so much that can't even get to the level of the first Ant-Man movie.
Disney misnamed “reimagine tomorrow” it should have been Reimagine Yesterday
Guardians, Spiderman, and mario are polar opposites from Indiana jones, elemental, and flash. So thankfully are still actual writers and directors out there.
DUNE 2 IS COMING
Remember when they said the Flash will make you forget Ezra's crimes? That's karma for ya
8:19 Yes! Thank you! This is a gripe I’ve had with films for ages! Why do they all have to have overblown budgets?! Films can look just as great for only half or even a quarter of the budget of the average superhero film. Perhaps if they didn’t spend so much damn money, most of phase 4 and 5 wouldn’t have flopped. I’m going to try and keep the budgets of my films at or below $100 million, but the absolute maximum I’m willing to spend on my films is $150 million.
200 mill is just too much
@@jedibrooks7235 Unless it’s a 3 hour ultra VFX heavy Epic like Titanic and the Avatar films, I couldn’t agree more.
0:29 "The sea is always right!"
It is mental to think actors of all people go on strike considering how much money they can make
Well, not all actors. The few stars make money, but that's a minority
@@lamrethal695 true for the average actor no question.
On the other hand it is crazy to think that brad Pitt, Margot Robbie and the like actually go on strike though.... What a joke
When netflix makes their oceangate submarine implosion documentary, they'll make the sub black and hurl insults and everyone who doesn't watch it
You can tell Smokey had some points to make, but he was steamrolled by the humans. 😊
Avatar The Way of Water made $2,320,250,281(!!). Keep that in mind when you think about how much money studios are leaving on the table by praying to "the message"