Even if this story is real, the whole "Christian cult" excuse is a fabrication. An excuse to justify the wife's teenage girl rebellion phase that she never grew out of. "Everyone else is the problem, not me" mentality
Notice how OP is so open minded when addressing the comments. He talked about the possibility of her cheating and when it seemed very unlikely he still mentioned it was possible and he’s also very calm when dealing with things he’s very angry about. I have huge respect for that
Yeah you really get the feeling he is a really stand up good man. That wife is really twisted. I hope him and Maya find some peace and happiness away from that crazy
It's not a good idea to allow yourself to fall victim to your feelings when you know how to kill people and you have PTSD. Too many vets have ended up in jail.
That’s the result of the PTSD therapy post military career. Getting to that point is something that takes a long time and a lot of blood, sweat and tears. Some never get there no matter how much therapy or drugs prescribed. I congratulate the OP if he’s really got it under control to that level. I do not, but I still try too.
It's conditioning. As someone said above, she may have physically left but she never mentally left. She's mentally ill and they're taking advantage of that.
People are generally indolent. We may WANT good and kind and honorable, but we CHOOSE that which makes us comfortable, even if that is toxic or abusive or disgusting. That lesson was the most heartbreaking realization of my adult life. And I have watched people I care about wither and die ... because it was what they were familiar with.
Even if this story is real, the whole "Christian cult" excuse is a fabrication. An excuse to justify the wife's teenage girl rebellion phase that she never grew out of. "Everyone else is the problem, not me" mentality
Honestly , I think of some level she She kind of hates herself so she Goes back to these people because it's all she knows and she's afraid of the good that she gets.
Op is definitely better then me, it wouldve been on SIGHT the moment shes accusing him on fooling around with maya. Unstable or not. I feel awful for OP and Maya, hope they cut contact with the Ex.
I don't think anything could make me physically assault my wife, but if she accused me of something like that with my stepdaughter, there would be zero chance of us reconciling from that point.
You can call it church. Every church tries to make their members believe completly invented stories. How bad this influences your personal lives may differ, but churches are like that. They are all cults. The only difference between a cult and a religion is the number of followers.
Even if this story is real, the whole "Christian cult" excuse is a fabrication. An excuse to justify the wife's teenage girl rebellion phase that she never grew out of. "Everyone else is the problem, not me" mentality
i am genuinely disgusted by the perversion of religions that is happening in the US. I grew up in a christian country but even in the most devout areas, i've never seen something like that. Only some passing through, cults that tried to get the foot in the door in our area, but they soon dissapeared again.
The issue is a big one and prevalent in western society- not just our churches. Two scriptures come to mind: study to show yourself approved unto God (2 Tim) and Jesus mentioning the falling away of the church and the so called church leaders “tickling the ears”, in other words, telling the congregation what they want to hear rather than the truth. We see it not only in the church but in daily life as well. Our politicians, our media, our corporations, our education systems - all teach political correctness and proper speak. And if you tell the truth you’re labeled a bigot and accused of hate speech. If we truly study not just the Bible but historical texts and middle eastern cultures of the time, it’s easier to recognize when the lies are creeping in. Today’s megachurches, for the most part IMHO, are dens of iniquity, putting on shows of entertainment to lull the masses into complacency and acceptance of the crap being spewed from the so-called pastors’ mouths. This isn’t to say there are no good churches. That’s another area studying to show yourself approved comes in. And as parents it’s our jobs and responsibilities to make sure that we identify those churches that are truly following God and make sure that our children are exposed to them and not the entertainment centers that most churches in the West have become. Likewise, it’s our responsibilities to identify those politicians who are truly for the people and not for themselves. Sadly, they’re becoming harder and harder to find.
Mental break or not, being genuinely evil to people who love you and who you are supposed to love is not ok regardless. OP needs to get away from that crazy woman, she's evil. She might not be deliberately evil, but she still is evil. Maya and OP deserve better. Maya can still be saved, with proper therapy and support, but his wife is a lost cause. Even if she gets past this psychosis and returns to "normal" OP will forever and always know that the "normal" wife isn't actually her true self but just the mask she puts on. Her true self is the utterly effed up religious fundamentalist that finally broke loose. That will always be her true self and everything else if just a facade. Fake. False. OP and Maya deserve better.
Honestly yeah. As someone with terrible trauma, I was a nightmare to deal with before therapy, meds, and a strong support group of friends. I'm far better now, better than some of my "normal" peers, but I couldn't imagine dating someone like unmedicated me. Or it'd happen all over again of getting into abusive relationships (I'm still working on boundaries and recognizing abuse but I'm getting better). Sometimes you have to just help yourself, ya know. You can't just fester in your traumas, we all deserve to live happy lives even if we gotta work a little harder
She was probably not masking. More likely, she thought she’d left everything behind but deep down (likely subconsciously), she always felt guilty. Also, even though you walk away from toxic loved ones, you can still love them and miss them. It’s really hard to totally give up hope that a miracle will occur and you’ll suddenly have a wonderful relationship with them. So then you get the extreme stress of being a nurse during Covid and contact with a family member that tells you what your yearning heart wants to hear. Bingo! The childhood programming kicks in and the person who lived free, jumps right back into the toxic relationships. On top of that, the underlying guilt exacerbates the situation. You know the adage, there’s nothing worse than a reformed smoker. That applies to this situation just as aptly.
When a woman accuses of cheating you out of the blue, it's time to go through her phone and laptop as well. Cheaters often accuse their partner of cheating as well. Alarmbells should be going off in your head.
The really messed up part of this story (the pseudo incest accusations) was something I thought might be what she was talking about from the beginning of it, but just nah, that can’t be what she’s talking about. She’s a nurse for Pete’s sake. Never underestimate the human brain’s ability to down some dark paths no matter who it is…
Nta. To be able to accuse your own daughter of doing something like that, with a man who is clearly a father to her, there very clearly something wrong with her, which isn't necessarily her fault, but it is her fault for not getting help for it
OP needs to stay strong for Maya and never leave her. She needs her father, because the scars of having her mother in a cult will never heal. Grace is a lost cause. She would need (and WANT) a professional to de-program her from a lifetime of lies she's been fed. IMO, Grace ALWAYS wanted to return to the cult. She ran away because her other 'husband' physically abused her. But she always wanted to 'belong' to someone. She wanted the security of having a father figure telling her what to do. Even if that man was decades older and shared her bed.
S1, NTI, it’s gone to far now, no matter what, the marriage is over, get a lawyer. Wait until she is at work and clean out your personal items and records from the house. It is possible she is “deflecting”
It seems like she left the cult physically, but her mind is still stuck there. It's really sad that she won't seek help. What do you think? Do you think she’ll ever break free completely?
I felt that the story was not finished, What was revealed during the divorce, was it the evil cousin that was ultimately the problem? Is Mea out of her mothers life now, are you and Mea doing consoling? Too ma loose ends.
Man if ppl meet christians like that no wonder theyre prejudiced. i live in very catholic country, was raised by very religious family and nothing comes even remotely close t what he describes. Man if someone were to seriously call jew or muslim evil for believing in other faith everyone would be upset with them, marrying underage is a big no no unless both are like 16+ and had an "accident" etc and forcing a divorce wouldve defenitely be frowned upon
It would be a huge improvement if you got rid of the suspense music. It doesn't do a thing for the story. Also, turn down the narrator's talking speed. I had to slow it down 25% on this end.
I'm well aware of the church OP is talking about. It is one of the worst churches out there and it scares me that people willingly stay with it. Don't get me wrong, I fully respect everyone’s personal and religious beliefs, we all have em and it's ok to believe how and what you want, but not that one. I have zero respect for that church... That church literally throws children into marriage and it's sick and wrong. They don't allow people to even think for themselves because they don't believe in free will or agency. No, they are not a church to get involved with... Stay far away from that evil pit. For all of you who want to say that it must be one certain church, you are wrong. It's not that one, but one that broke off from that church. Trust me, the one you want to say it is, is far from the actual one I know it is. The one it is not does not condone or support any of what that evil group does.
Trying to force her to marry someone way older than her does not sound like any Christian sect I've heard of in the slightest and it keeps pulling me out of the story
@@nightwynd5663no not Mormon. The true LDS church does not support or condone those actions. They are an offshoot of the LDS church and have completely different beliefs than the LDS church. Trust me, I know this for a fact.
Bro heard the stories about her past like getting hit square in the face by the biggest red flag and still married her. Not even a prenup. Now he is shocked. Be smarter than this man.
Not Mormon. They are an offshoot of the LDS church. The LDS church does not support or condone those actions. Trust me, they are far from Mormon beliefs than you will ever know.
Im rc christian and i believed forced marriage is a big no no, considering it was asked to both spouses if they do it willingly. Im not sure about other catholic community, marrying with a big age gap, though wont be castigated publicly but sure hell will it be a community gossip behind the back.
RED FLAGS: Nurse!!! wtf 60-80% of them are 304's depending on country, Single M0m? wth are you going to do whit that? play someone else saved game? Sory to tell he deserves everything thats comming..... how does he survive past 21 whit so low instincts?
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She may have physically left the cult, but she clearly never mentally left the cult. So very sad she refuses to get help.
As someone who's been through a cult. Leaving the cult mentally can take a long time.
Even if this story is real, the whole "Christian cult" excuse is a fabrication. An excuse to justify the wife's teenage girl rebellion phase that she never grew out of. "Everyone else is the problem, not me" mentality
You can also have it part of the divorce decree that she has to seek mental healthcare
Notice how OP is so open minded when addressing the comments. He talked about the possibility of her cheating and when it seemed very unlikely he still mentioned it was possible and he’s also very calm when dealing with things he’s very angry about. I have huge respect for that
Yeah you really get the feeling he is a really stand up good man.
That wife is really twisted. I hope him and Maya find some peace and happiness away from that crazy
It's not a good idea to allow yourself to fall victim to your feelings when you know how to kill people and you have PTSD.
Too many vets have ended up in jail.
That’s the result of the PTSD therapy post military career. Getting to that point is something that takes a long time and a lot of blood, sweat and tears. Some never get there no matter how much therapy or drugs prescribed. I congratulate the OP if he’s really got it under control to that level. I do not, but I still try too.
The fact that she is going back to the people who allowed her to be sexually assaulted and kidnapped is disgusting.
The devil you know and all that.
It's conditioning. As someone said above, she may have physically left but she never mentally left. She's mentally ill and they're taking advantage of that.
People are generally indolent. We may WANT good and kind and honorable, but we CHOOSE that which makes us comfortable, even if that is toxic or abusive or disgusting. That lesson was the most heartbreaking realization of my adult life. And I have watched people I care about wither and die ... because it was what they were familiar with.
Even if this story is real, the whole "Christian cult" excuse is a fabrication. An excuse to justify the wife's teenage girl rebellion phase that she never grew out of. "Everyone else is the problem, not me" mentality
Honestly , I think of some level she She kind of hates herself so she Goes back to these people because it's all she knows and she's afraid of the good that she gets.
Op is definitely better then me, it wouldve been on SIGHT the moment shes accusing him on fooling around with maya. Unstable or not. I feel awful for OP and Maya, hope they cut contact with the Ex.
Same here. Not only that, I also hope OP finds another woman, one, whose heart's in the right place, and Maya moves to Australia for a fresh start.
I don't think anything could make me physically assault my wife, but if she accused me of something like that with my stepdaughter, there would be zero chance of us reconciling from that point.
The progamming of children in these 'chruches' make me FURIOUS its sad how these cults try to make everyone fall into their beliefs.its sad
It's a hugely overlooked problem and now that those kids are older the cracks in the system are starting to show
It's a typical Mormonism for you.
You can call it church. Every church tries to make their members believe completly invented stories. How bad this influences your personal lives may differ, but churches are like that. They are all cults. The only difference between a cult and a religion is the number of followers.
Even if this story is real, the whole "Christian cult" excuse is a fabrication. An excuse to justify the wife's teenage girl rebellion phase that she never grew out of. "Everyone else is the problem, not me" mentality
Childhood indoctrination is incredibly effective.
If you grow up on a dairy farm, your brain learns to block the smell of bullshit.
I hope Maya is put through immediate therapy to learn how to grieve what once was alongside learning how to cope with her emotions day to day.
Not just to grieve what once was, but also what could have been... 😢 Protect her.
This sounds like a shizophrenic break. The mood swings, everything being a conspiracy theory.
Wife was batshit when they met, and she was just better at hiding it before.
i am genuinely disgusted by the perversion of religions that is happening in the US.
I grew up in a christian country but even in the most devout areas, i've never seen something like that. Only some passing through, cults that tried to get the foot in the door in our area, but they soon dissapeared again.
The issue is a big one and prevalent in western society- not just our churches. Two scriptures come to mind: study to show yourself approved unto God (2 Tim) and Jesus mentioning the falling away of the church and the so called church leaders “tickling the ears”, in other words, telling the congregation what they want to hear rather than the truth. We see it not only in the church but in daily life as well. Our politicians, our media, our corporations, our education systems - all teach political correctness and proper speak. And if you tell the truth you’re labeled a bigot and accused of hate speech.
If we truly study not just the Bible but historical texts and middle eastern cultures of the time, it’s easier to recognize when the lies are creeping in.
Today’s megachurches, for the most part IMHO, are dens of iniquity, putting on shows of entertainment to lull the masses into complacency and acceptance of the crap being spewed from the so-called pastors’ mouths.
This isn’t to say there are no good churches. That’s another area studying to show yourself approved comes in. And as parents it’s our jobs and responsibilities to make sure that we identify those churches that are truly following God and make sure that our children are exposed to them and not the entertainment centers that most churches in the West have become.
Likewise, it’s our responsibilities to identify those politicians who are truly for the people and not for themselves. Sadly, they’re becoming harder and harder to find.
@@DrSee-mm3zwmy man the people who bitch about political correctness are in bed with the cults
@DrSee-mm3zw this is a crazy comment to find under a reddit youtube story but ur spitting
Mental break or not, being genuinely evil to people who love you and who you are supposed to love is not ok regardless. OP needs to get away from that crazy woman, she's evil. She might not be deliberately evil, but she still is evil. Maya and OP deserve better. Maya can still be saved, with proper therapy and support, but his wife is a lost cause. Even if she gets past this psychosis and returns to "normal" OP will forever and always know that the "normal" wife isn't actually her true self but just the mask she puts on. Her true self is the utterly effed up religious fundamentalist that finally broke loose. That will always be her true self and everything else if just a facade. Fake. False. OP and Maya deserve better.
I wanna know what Maya's reaction was to finding out what her mother was accusing her of
Man, i didnt see 'wife rejoining cult' as the cause.
"Dont know where the religious beliefs and conspiracy theories begin or end"
Same thing dude
Thats the problem
Like a drunk who doesn't know his limits, if you can't see the line between the two, you should abstain from both
I don't get why people marry someone who's gone through terrible trauma but no therapy. No thanks
While it's not clear the full extent of what she shared before they got married. At this point, therapy is almost a must.
This is not trauma, this is cult's brainwashing
Honestly yeah. As someone with terrible trauma, I was a nightmare to deal with before therapy, meds, and a strong support group of friends. I'm far better now, better than some of my "normal" peers, but I couldn't imagine dating someone like unmedicated me. Or it'd happen all over again of getting into abusive relationships (I'm still working on boundaries and recognizing abuse but I'm getting better).
Sometimes you have to just help yourself, ya know. You can't just fester in your traumas, we all deserve to live happy lives even if we gotta work a little harder
@@prehistoricorchid3455 Agreed but I've seen too many people with terrible trauma who don't believe in therapy. I just can't fathom it
@@kristentaylor5359It about trust that has been broken by others.
She was probably not masking. More likely, she thought she’d left everything behind but deep down (likely subconsciously), she always felt guilty. Also, even though you walk away from toxic loved ones, you can still love them and miss them. It’s really hard to totally give up hope that a miracle will occur and you’ll suddenly have a wonderful relationship with them.
So then you get the extreme stress of being a nurse during Covid and contact with a family member that tells you what your yearning heart wants to hear. Bingo! The childhood programming kicks in and the person who lived free, jumps right back into the toxic relationships. On top of that, the underlying guilt exacerbates the situation. You know the adage, there’s nothing worse than a reformed smoker. That applies to this situation just as aptly.
When a woman accuses of cheating you out of the blue, it's time to go through her phone and laptop as well. Cheaters often accuse their partner of cheating as well. Alarmbells should be going off in your head.
She's fallen back into the cult! 😂😅
You can take the woman out of the cult, but you can never take the cult out of the woman.
The really messed up part of this story (the pseudo incest accusations) was something I thought might be what she was talking about from the beginning of it, but just nah, that can’t be what she’s talking about.
She’s a nurse for Pete’s sake.
Never underestimate the human brain’s ability to down some dark paths no matter who it is…
What does being a nurse have to do with it?
Red flags all over this
Nta. To be able to accuse your own daughter of doing something like that, with a man who is clearly a father to her, there very clearly something wrong with her, which isn't necessarily her fault, but it is her fault for not getting help for it
the cousin got in the wifes ear.
OP needs to stay strong for Maya and never leave her. She needs her father, because the scars of having her mother in a cult will never heal.
Grace is a lost cause. She would need (and WANT) a professional to de-program her from a lifetime of lies she's been fed.
IMO, Grace ALWAYS wanted to return to the cult. She ran away because her other 'husband' physically abused her. But she always wanted to 'belong' to someone.
She wanted the security of having a father figure telling her what to do. Even if that man was decades older and shared her bed.
could have had her institutionalized probably.
For her own personal safety, dunno if it would have worked though.
S1, NTI, it’s gone to far now, no matter what, the marriage is over, get a lawyer. Wait until she is at work and clean out your personal items and records from the house. It is possible she is “deflecting”
It seems like she left the cult physically, but her mind is still stuck there. It's really sad that she won't seek help. What do you think? Do you think she’ll ever break free completely?
christ man this gets worse as it goes on :|
I felt that the story was not finished, What was revealed during the divorce, was it the evil cousin that was ultimately the problem? Is Mea out of her mothers life now, are you and Mea doing consoling? Too ma loose ends.
Man if ppl meet christians like that no wonder theyre prejudiced. i live in very catholic country, was raised by very religious family and nothing comes even remotely close t what he describes. Man if someone were to seriously call jew or muslim evil for believing in other faith everyone would be upset with them, marrying underage is a big no no unless both are like 16+ and had an "accident" etc
and forcing a divorce wouldve defenitely be frowned upon
It would be a huge improvement if you got rid of the suspense music. It doesn't do a thing for the story. Also, turn down the narrator's talking speed. I had to slow it down 25% on this end.
I believe in God, but I will never ever follow a cult
She is going through a psychotic break, jesus
I'm well aware of the church OP is talking about. It is one of the worst churches out there and it scares me that people willingly stay with it.
Don't get me wrong, I fully respect everyone’s personal and religious beliefs, we all have em and it's ok to believe how and what you want, but not that one. I have zero respect for that church...
That church literally throws children into marriage and it's sick and wrong. They don't allow people to even think for themselves because they don't believe in free will or agency. No, they are not a church to get involved with... Stay far away from that evil pit.
For all of you who want to say that it must be one certain church, you are wrong. It's not that one, but one that broke off from that church. Trust me, the one you want to say it is, is far from the actual one I know it is. The one it is not does not condone or support any of what that evil group does.
Trying to force her to marry someone way older than her does not sound like any Christian sect I've heard of in the slightest and it keeps pulling me out of the story
Probably because they aren't, they are just claiming to be to leach on the other religion's rep.
Not Christian but very likely Mormon.
@nightwynd5663 Mormon is Christianity, my dude. Look beyond the social media trends and spend more time in the real world.
@@nightwynd5663no not Mormon. The true LDS church does not support or condone those actions. They are an offshoot of the LDS church and have completely different beliefs than the LDS church. Trust me, I know this for a fact.
@@narnian19 I've known mormons (as there's a large amount of them where I live) that are exactly like this.
Always there is some shitty backstory
Bro heard the stories about her past like getting hit square in the face by the biggest red flag and still married her. Not even a prenup. Now he is shocked.
Be smarter than this man.
Op you can fix a lot of things in a marriage however you can't fixing crazy or stupid.
I believe she developed schizophrenia
where is the rest of the story, its unfinished
Sounds Mormon tbh
You sound like you don't get out in the real world much, tbh.
@@goneloko1368 A lot of cult-y stories come out of Utah, tbh.
Not Mormon. They are an offshoot of the LDS church. The LDS church does not support or condone those actions. Trust me, they are far from Mormon beliefs than you will ever know.
@@goneloko1368I deadass grew up Mormon. I kinda know what I’m talking about
@@goneloko1368 yep, 100% mormon nonsense
This woman has gone bye-bye.
I think this is fake story.
This is a very sad story/
As soon as I saw "single mother, divorced" I knew it was a bad idea.
So that’s it?
Is by any chance the background ambience music named? I don't know I actually really like it.
when they accuse you, and your not, they are the one doing it. they pull this lil trick to make themselves feel better about what they are doing.
This looks like a fabricated story made to subtly jab at Christianity. Focused on that message and paid no attention to the quality of writing.
Lol this is very obviously a Mormon thing. Ever heard pf Warren Jeffs?
Yeah cause the Salem witch trials never happened /s
@@Dustin81 what the heck does that have to do with anything?
Im rc christian and i believed forced marriage is a big no no, considering it was asked to both spouses if they do it willingly. Im not sure about other catholic community, marrying with a big age gap, though wont be castigated publicly but sure hell will it be a community gossip behind the back.
IS there an update on this story..? DOes anyone know
This is one crappy story, sry but i have to be honest here....
I'm thinking this is a fabricated story to make a subtle jab at Christianity. Focused on the message and not the quality of writing.
Projecting much
a nurse?
Yet another reason I don't go to church
Lost me at single mom. Knowing that she’s a single mom should have been enough to know to avoid her 16 years ago. 😂
😂😂 dude's blind & delusional
Hr asks for advice on internet, and then goes onto disregard advice because 'i know my wife well'
Funny thing is, OP will probably marry the daughter at the end, it just a younger wife without all the trauma
First pin pls ❤
why? You say NOTHING other than pin me for being the first to say nothing! Pathetic
Jfc....OP and Maya....I wish you the best
She is cheating and projecting her guilt on you.
She cheated and is projecting hoping he cheated so she can admit to what she has done
U married a nurse....100% self inflicted.
RED FLAGS: Nurse!!! wtf 60-80% of them are 304's depending on country, Single M0m? wth are you going to do whit that? play someone else saved game? Sory to tell he deserves everything thats comming..... how does he survive past 21 whit so low instincts?