I understand her first reaction when she thought he was cheating, but communicating instead of involving family would have been much more productive. He did the right thing by leaving.
Really? I'm a hothead, and I still wouldn't have gone nuclear over a random call from a stranger and a Tinder account. And, I sure as heck wouldn't have involved my family.
Yes and no because if you partner never cheated before then over reaction, but if your partner has shown some shady behavior I would have acted with yelling and screaming
😂😂😂 women love drama, even without listening to his side she must have told the kids and everyone who will listen that he is the devil for cheating as well as how he used to abuse her. All she had to do was check his phone to see if its connected to the tinder account then start the investigation from there. She knows her brother and likely encouraged the fight in some passive aggressive way. What will happen the next time that they have an issue, won't she just get him shot or something. Who are those so called friends that cut him off for such a thing. If my friend told me that he didnt cheat then I would believe him because a man wouldnt lie to his fellow man about it and even if he did that is no reason to cut off your bro (my wife doesnt get an opinion on this because I'm sure that one if not all of the women in her life have cheated on someone in the past because its what W do 🙈) That neighbour deserves a good ass whooping. If he wanted to see naked women then he should have just googled them and if he wanted to cut fish them then he should have downloaded someone elses picture.
I don't understand why OP's family even got involved unless she called them to get them involved... I wouldn't have involved my family with my spouse if I ever got into an argument with him. I feel bad for OP but I feel worse for the husband. However, she should have communicated with him and listened to him... and not involve her family. However, if the photos were taken and kept on the computer, I presume he sent those pictures to OP. So why didn't she recognise those photos?
Yeah, The husband had a clear case of suing everyone from being Assaulted, Defamation of Character, Identity Theft, Slander, and Emotional Distress... I feel bad for him since he essentially lost everything over something that wasn't his fault
Depending on the location the retraction may have removed the ability to sue for Slander/Defamation. Parental alienation could also play into the divorce proceedings though.
Depending on the location, the truth, or what you had reason to believe was the truth, will also protect you against defamation. As many places (in the US at least) define defamation as intentionally spreading something you know is false, and is done with the intent to harm their reputation. As for assault, the update said the brother reacted to the husband grabbing OPs arm, so that one can also be claimed as a justifiable reaction based on the husbands assault (grabbing) against OP.
@@nehcrum What you're referring to, and what HeliosX28 is forgetting, is known as the "Actual Malice" standard. The husband would have to prove that his ex/ex's family either purposefully tried to smear his name, or that they should have known the truth but didn't care (ie. negligent). I don't think he could prove that.
There's some missing from the first story too. She also went to all their mutual friends to tell them he was guilty, and got him fired from his job because of it. She went straight scorched earth and is now upset Ex wants nothing to do with her. Yeah, I have absolutely zero sympathy for her on this one.
First OP is defiantly lying/making herself look better. She called her family over and the cops to have him thrown out without hearing his side of the story. Then went on a smear campaign. I understand her for not fully believing him but she handled the issue terribly.
And the thing is that if these pictures existed on the husband's computer he was probably sending them to OP in the first place since naked pictures are a thing with couples apparently... but yet, she didn't recognise the images?
@@Lili-bg4hg You have some nerve pulling the “like all men do” card on a video where that exact mindset resulted in a woman blowing up her marriage over nothing and accusing an innocent man of a heinous betrayal
@@Lili-bg4hgYeah, you can take your “Like all men do” crap and leave. Judging the entirety of men based on your sole experiences with some is pure idiocy and just really says a lot about your character. Some of us men are good and some aren’t just like some women are good and some aren’t, that’s just the way it is. Your generalized statement is just wrong, period. I had a previous girlfriend who had cheated on me, did I assume my now loving girlfriend wold do the same? Of course not! that’d just be lunacy.
Story 1: OP doesnt want reconciliation, she wants a clear conscious. There is no coming back from this and i hope the STBXH get what is rightfully his in the divorce
She was seeing another guy that's why she wasn't so broken up by him not wanting her back. She was sad she lost her old life but not to sad since she had basically moved on
@@HumanB312Yes, when they act the same way. She didnt sound like she was missing him a whole lot, thats what he was saying. She completely moved on thinking she was gonna divorce him and found out after 14 months of her "new life" that he was infact right, so she was like "why not get back together if theres nothing wrong" but at this point his life was ruined by her actions. The complete story actually says that she got him fired and went completely scorched earth on him by intentionaly going to all their friends to spread this. But I know what you mean and yes, I would think that first before thinking shes innocent, just because she would be a woman.
Story 3: couldn't stand this one. It's NOT ASSAULT. They agreed to mutual combat. In fact, he said he allowed her to start on top of him. He flipped her and wouldn't let her up until she admitted defeat. Sounds like an ordinary wrestling competition to me. And somehow everyone manipulates OP into believing he assaulted his girlfriend. Unless he didn't let her up when she admitted defeat, then it's not assault.
Yup. Women are equal to men... until it's advantageous in a situation, then they are children and need protection. He got consent and started with her pinning him. She agreed and when she was pinning him there was zero issue.
How much do you wanna bet that she got the kids, the house, alimony, and child support? I bet the ex hubby is scraping by in a shitty apartment or trailer.
She can never make it right. People WILL ALWAYS remember the accusations & him being arrested + the 14 months of EVERYONE ragging on him. If OP wants to make it right then give the mane primary custody for the next couple of years ù you see them when you can afford to fly to Australia.
If I was in OP's husband's case, I would never be able to forgive my spouse for what happened, and I am a woman. This man's reputation was destroyed, his entire friend circle was probably taking OP's side, and he lost the love and support of his found family that he made with OP (her parents and siblings). He's had his entire life and world taken from him because OP is petty and gross. I hope that the husband gets custody of the children and if not, then I hope that there's a co-parenting plan put in place so that he could still be part of their lives. Hopefully, OP won't be bitter and petty about that.
He didn't assault her he restrained her and gave her a reality check she desperately needed. She also agreed to this and is now butt hurt that her delusions were cut short.
@@Bijecarli There's Confidence after that there's Arrogance after that there's delusion. Id say she was closer to delusion in this instance, She needed to learn beyond a shadow of a doubt that her way of thinking was utterly unfounded. She was literally in 0 harm, and to classify what he did as Assault is ridiculous. She was honestly just going through the stages of grief. Its understandable that she'd be upset, her entire world view that she lived with and that was probably instilled into her by the family that raised her was shattered in a matter of minutes. But at the end of it all she'd come out more knowledgeable about her strengths and weaknesses.
The fact that she still justifies why they assaulted him and make it look like a misunderstanding is fucked up. Your brother thought he was rightful and shit, but he is just a pathetic bully. It’s good that your husband left you, the only mistake he did, is giving you closure. You don’t even deserve it.
The moment she asked him what she could do to fix this, his only answer should've been "build a time machine and go back to that day and listen to my side and believe me, if you can't then it's over*. As simple as that
If you want to get technical. It is assault. However,it is assault on GF,not OP. Yes,he challenged her to a sparring. She was the 1st to initiate the attack. Not technically speaking. He challenged her,she accepted. They sparred. She lost. No assault. Their sparring session wasn't any different than sessions that take place in training for the military,martial arts,boxing,etc. This is why she couldn't try to press charges on him(unless she lied about the whole situation).
@lindah3803 Interesting how she tried to emasculate him by saying if anything he needs to be worried about walking around at night because he's a 5'9 scrawny guy. She doesn't think that could've hurt him? She needs to learn from this and stop being an immature troublemaker
@@lindah3803that's just how it is with women she'd rather end her relationship than acknowledged she isn't as strong, also I think it's the way he went about it if he had done it differently I don't think it would have ended this way.
This third story is so frustrating. It's all to common for women today to claim they are self sufficient and can protect themselves from men. The feminist movement has filled their heads with these ideas, that are seriously misguided. Only a women that is highly trained in hand to hand combat, has any chance against the average man. The disparity in strength and the ability to take punishment is understated. This is not a story of assault. The OP knew she needed a serious reality check, or else she would certainly end up a victim. It cost him his relationship to teach her this lesson. Some women don't know when to give up some of these delusions. OP never physically harmed his girlfriend. He only hurt her ego. This is something that women often have no problem doing to men. Truth is, it's the first thing a women will target.
OP proved to her that in an altercation with a strange man, going for his ego will not protect her and physically, she would not be able to do so herself.
Story 2: I am sorry, but if your 1st daughter had a teen pregnancy, you should have taught you 2nd daughter/granddaughter about using protection, and maybe even got her the pill early.
😂😂😂 I'm with you because she clearly doesn't seem upset about having a kid because she must know that OP will raise it Even with Sarah, so she just said that she won't tell who the father is and they allowed it. In my family they will beat the crap out of you and if you still refuse to talk then they will throw you out. Children cant understand consequences like how it will affect your future but they understand that they will be beaten if they mess up. At this rate OP will raise Ellies kid as well and in the next 15 years the kid will have another baby for him to raise 🤦
@@_cup_of_tea they have the ha DNA, they were raised by the same people, raised in the same family were taught the same things so it was inevitable. If she is pregnant with a girl and raised by them then she will likely also end up having a kid at the same age
They did, you clearly didn’t listen because it clearly stated “they didn’t want to use protection for their first time, and they thought them being careful would avoid the pregnancy.” More than likely some precum made it to her egg and she got knocked up by literal proteins not even a full genetic sample. Just like 3/4 of one missing non important enzymes in this case. But that’s speculation, much like you assuming they didn’t teach em about contraceptives when they literally said they did and they just didn’t wanna use em.
I also would keep Sarah far away from Ellie. We have a woman (bio mother of Ellie) who hates and resents this girl's existence one minute, then wants to be part of her life and wanting to play the role of her mother the next. She's going to mess Ellie up even more. This was an oopsie on Ellie's part and there are other options that Ellie's real parents (OP and his wife) can push her to do.
Story 1: Yeah no forgiveness is there. She didn't trust her husband he got assaulted over no fault of his. Why should he forgive or trust a woman who never trusted him? They can have a healthy coparenting relationship but that's as far as it should go.
Well you need to see the OP’s side cause she had concrete proof of her husband messaging intimately with other women no one could have imagined this was a fake case like imagine getting proof of your partner cheating on you you won’t think about oh maybe someone faked his profile and did this
@@aritraghosh4143 She isn't wrong for sure but honestly discussing or confronting him directly with proof should have been better. People definitely trust the partner and family to be more trusting of them, if they live by stranger's logic what's the point? What guarantees that she will not mistrust him or throw him under the bus again over a misunderstanding.
@@aritraghosh4143 What concrete proof? She was contacted anonymously with claims that he was trying to hookup with others, and pointed to an account online that claimed to be him. That was it. She didn’t investigate further, didn’t try to directly connect him to the account, didn’t investigate when these would have occurred. So many other stories like these, the OP refuses to fully believe it until all the dots are connected and they can establish the trail fully or directly catch them in the act.
Story 3: FUUCK I HATE REDDIT! She needed to know the real world and she needed to know that she isn't someone who can beat men in a strength competition no matter how hard she tried! She fuck around a found out! FUCK REDDIT!
You already know that if the woman had won, they would've called him a weakling and that he lost in a fair competition. Not a single one of them would've said she assaulted him
The OP is a victim of the neighbor but the husband is a victim of the OP. OP deservers to be alone. Nothing she can do will undo the damage done to him and his reputation.
Story 1: Your first mistake was just assuming your husband's guilt without talking it out with him first and trying to figure out what happened. Your second mistake was getting your family involved, because that's basically assuring escalation. Your third mistake was thinking you can just reconcile and make things go back to the way they were - the damage is done. There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube. You've shown your husband you have no trust in him, you've unleashed your family on him which resulted in him being hurt by your dumbass brother. You may try to rekindle your relationship, but you've already done such greivous harm to your husband that I can't imagine him ever really trusting you, your family, or your dumbass brother again. And yes, I will keep calling him a dumbass, because punching someone is a dumbass thing to do, so he is worthy of the title.
3rd story: wasn’t an assault. He literally gave her reality. What is he suppose to let his gf get hurt and be over confident, which is 90% women who are bad people? She agreed and he showed her. What’s taking it too far?
S3: NTA. This girl got a big ego that she was stronger, only for her only for him to completely decimate it. She f---ed around and found out. When you challenge someone to see who's stronger, you don't get to get butt hurt because you lost.
S3 redditors being soy per usual. Ive been in that situation before. Me, a skinny computer nerd with an athletic background but stopped working out / lost my gains after a knee injury 18 months prior. She, an avid athlete who had all the confidence of the world. We were coworkers and she would tease me that she could beat me in an arm wrestle. I would laugh it off and say she has "girl muscles", it just isnt the same. Then she got serious and I showed her know that we werent even close in strength.
Exactly she effed around and found out. Let's not forget she tried to emasculate bybsaying he's the one that needs to be scared because he's a 5'9 scrawny guy. It's wasn't a problem until that 5'9 scrawny guy put you in a hild.you couldn't get out of and you started crying 😂. She needs to learn from this and not be an immature troublemaker.
Is it really fair to say they are toxic, they did have “proof” after all. I think this whole thing is just a fucked up mess and the neighbor is the one at fault.,
@@PokeBattlerJaze Yes it is fair. She knew exactly what she was doing when she called her tough guy brother to rough him up because she was mad. This woman is a jackass and comes from a family of jackasses apparently.
Did you read the whole story? She didnt call her family to come oevr she called to let her mom know she was fropong the kids off. Her mom broguht the whole family and her mom saud the husband cheated to the brother. She had no cause in the brother punching him.@@TheDevourer28
@@TheDevourer28 Would you not be mad if you thought and had "proof" that your SO was cheating on you, and technically, she told them that she was dropping off the kids.
@@DetsubkrodMe reading the story has nothing to do with what I wrote because the context is in what was not said first off. 2nd why is he the one that was forced to leave home by police? Why was the brother not arrested for assault? She wanted this to happen to him and I'll bet dollars to donuts that her and her family told the cops some bs to get that man thrown out his own house.
Edit to add for story 1: OP could have texted the profile to see if it responds while her husband was in the room and it would have cleared it up asap as an impersonator.
Thank you!! It could've been so easy to prove, but she went straight to the extreme with little investigation! Did the husband even have Tinder on his phone at all? How did she believe this with such certainty that she involved her family before hearing his side??
Thank you! This is what i did with my ex(we broke up because he had to move to a different continent and we barely got any time to even call each other). My friend found his profile, i tried texting 'him' while he was in the room. Thankfully i did that. He was drinking tea and munching while watching tv while the profile was actively replying to me. Turns out his friend was catfishing people using his photo.
Imagine being attacked in your own home by her family and being asked to leave. That is so unacceptable in so many ways, she should have been the one to have to go to stay with her family that decided to interject themselves into a private matter.
Yeah, and she accepted the "demonstration". While she was winning it was normal, but when he showed to her how wrong she was, it was assault. Makes no sense at all, that's why I think the story is fake, and if you take the ending in consideration, it's even worse.
Agree. He challenged her to a sparring. She accepted. Went full in. When he was able to turn the tables,she started bawling. Even though he just had her pinned. He wasn't hurting her. A gal with her attitude needs self-defense classes,in addition to swing classes. I've been around a few gal's like her. I always recommend classes. I've seen what happened to a couple of those gals after they were attacked. A whole lot more than just their bodies were harmed.
Story 1: Your reconciliation prospects don’t look good. You effectively called him a liar and gave him no chance or opportunity to defend himself nor did you trust or believe him. Therefore, YOU destroyed the trust. Once it’s gone it’s unlikely to return and even if it does, there will always be lingering doubts and resentment. That’s all on you and your crappy family. I wouldn’t get back together with anyone who so easily tossed me aside or refused to trust me or believe in me.
Gonna have a harsh opinion on story 3 She is extraordinarily overdramatic. You boast openly about how little you actually understand your own strength, and then when it's demonstrated to you in a situation WHERE YOU ARENT IN DANGER AND ITS WITH SOMEONE YOUR SUPPOSED TO TRUST, you turn around and victimize yourself instead of admitting you overestimated your abilities and could have gotten yourself killed for acting like a idiot if it was a real situation. Not all muggers use Knives jackass. Then she just decided to find a guy who could defend her instead of heeding the lesson. Gotta love that double standard... 🤨
I’m sorry but that’s actually nit enough evidence for me, it’s enough to make me start snooping but I think the first thing I’d do is Search my partners phone for something that corroborates what I’m seeing.
Right. I'm only in my early twenties but even when I was in high school the girls in our school would take photos from Facebook and Instagram of random people from our community and create catfish profiles just to stir up drama. It's scarily common now to the point where you almost have to immediately question it
Bro, story 3 is NOT assault. As a woman, I would be grateful for such an IMPORTANT wake-up call. Her thinking she was stronger than the average man because she worked out twice a week was dangerous! Imagine if she was robbed or something and tried to fight back, then she'd get robbed and likely killed. Unless she is power-lifting some SERIOUS weight, I wouldn't bet on her being stronger than the average man, especially if she's only at the gym twice a week.
What the boyfriend did in the 3rd story wasn't all the way wrong. His thoughts of how it felt good to over power her and see her crying isn't good and he needs to work on that. But then again didnt she try to emasculate him by saying if anything he needs to be the one scared because he's a 5'9 scrawny guy (noones going to acknowledge that). The girlfriend accepted the challenge and she effed around and found out. Does she think that an attacker will take it easy on her? An attacker will really give you something to cry about. She wants to break up with you over this, then it's her loss. She wants to go around like she's this big bad wolf and not take heed to your concerns then you shouldn't be with her. She's a trouble maker who will put herself in a bad situation and then expect you to bail her out when it falls through. Hopefully she won't take lightly another 5'9 scrawny man.
3rd story it isnt assault, she literally agreed to try her hardest to put him down and he showed he how easy it is to overpower her. Great life lesson and women should feel scared walking alone at night like the actually naivety of modern women is astounding. Type of of people to walk barefoot on broken glass then complain that their foot hurts.
4:44 "OP is the devil because she couldn't divine that this 'clear cut case' of cheating was instead a 'highly unlikely series of events' that resulted in her husband's private photos on an active Tinder account in her direct vicinity and proof of that account engaging with women". Well, duh! When you find a fake Tinder account with your photos I think it's safe to assume that the very 1st explanation that comes to your mind is that somebody is catfishing as you, and I'd bet anything that that's exactly what her husband would have said to her had he ever had the chance to talk.
@@RequiemPoete And how many people, when accused of having committed a crime answer with "I'm innocent"? There is a reason for the high level of evidence required in a court of law, because coincidences do happen and not everyone that looks guilty is actually guilty.
@nehcrum I'm simply pointing out an innocent man and a guilty man say the same thing. And if the wife was the OP the tinder account would be enough evidence for rreddit.
21:16 ( Story 3 ) OP didn't "shatter her confidence". He shattered the delusion and arrogance that were GOING to get her hurt or SA'ed. Did he handle it the best? No. Would she have EVER listened and learned the truth otherwise? Also probably no. Maybe he scared her, but he was doing her a favor in the long run.
Story 3: Imagine getting dumped by your gf because she got upset that she couldn't overpower you, the average untrained man. Then gaslights you into thinking it was abuse. Get rekt. 😂
That is the realization that every woman has at some point, that makes us at least slightly afraid of men we don't know REALLY well. Every woman has a situation, either through playing around or a traumatic situation, where they realize that a man of similar size to them is likely still able to physically overpowe them, no matter how hard or dirty they were to fight. It's eye opening, and some women feel more feminine and fragile because of it and simply try and choose a good strong man to settle down with, and others freak out and resent all men for the fact that they've finally figured out that "equal" doesn't mean "same" And it's honestly sad, these ridiculous feminists will never realize that "wives submit to your husbands" DOESN'T mean submit as in dominance vs submission, it simply means "wives, please allow your husbands to be your protectors" and don't pull crap like that story
@@LMCorvinus two great books I can recommend, recognizing the disparity in strength: Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker, and When Violence is the Answer by Tim Larkin. Both provide sober and effective advice for both women and men.
It kind of was abuse, there's trying to teach her a lesson and then going too far. The moment she started sniffling he should've stopped but nope he caused her to cry, that was straight up domestic assault.
@@LMCorvinus It was funny 10-20 years ago when someone jokes about women being as strong or stronger than men, it's a sad state we are living now when a girl/woman who is same size, bit smaller or bit larger thinks that she can overpower a grown man....Seen some occasions where young adult women genuinely tried to fight guys, it wasn't funny.
Story 3: you did not shatter anything, you opened her eye and made her see logic. I also am a woman that can stand her ground, i am also trained in a few fighting styles, I even managed to hold my own against 3 guys and won, but not due to strength, but because I was lucky, i fought dirty and won. I am always scared of getting my ass handed to me, because I know I would not stand a chance in a true 1:1 with a man. Women are delusional and don’t understand that men and women cannot compete in strength, us women need to be opportunistic if we are in a fight and try to knock our opponent out as fast as we can to get the upper hand. But people that say they are not scared, are just stupid. Fear keeps you alive in certain situations and also allows you to not get into dangerous situations just because “we can handle it”…
He shattered her delusion. One well worth shattering too. Women today have experienced very little physical violence at the hands of men, which is certainly a good thing, but the narrative of the 120lb boss B throwing around a bunch of guys. You got extremely lucky and knew what to do, I'm thankful you knew to strike and dash. There's many women that would stand their ground thinking because they got a few good hits in on two guys, the next guy is just another guy.
@@loganblackwood2922 i know, i am a big “amazonian type” woman, 170 cm was 70 kg back then and was also hitting the gym 2 times per day 6 days a week, and I know several fighting styles, but I still wouldn’t be comfortable in a situation like this, I agree that most of my “sisters” live in a delulu world, they saw waaaaay too many bad B movies and think that women can actually win in a 1:1 with a man in a fight 😂😂 and this getting more and more obvious and I am less shocked by the day, and that’s not a good thing 🤦🏼♀️😂
Maybe she should have done more research before believing a complete stranger over her husband, the fact he got physically assaulted and had to leave his house, I’d be pissed too. Her brother is lucky he didn’t killed in self defense.
Story 1: “OP is the victim too”, nah, her husband was the victim. She escalated everything without actual proof and now she needs to leave the man alone. Story 3: Assault? What? These people are insane. She began the assault and got a lesson in physics. Get a life you muppets.
So, Op 1 called her family to "calm the situation" but they ended up beating her husband. Sure... She did not called her brother to beat her husband from the start. No, sir. He wasn't saved of serious injuries by the police. No, no, no. Suggesting this is preposterous. Op, also, isn't an unreliable narrator trying to diminish her actions. I'll cut this comment short because the Easter Bunny is waiting for me in Santa's sleight so we can go to Atlantis to drink a beer with an honest politician because his dragon died.
Listen people. If you or any of your acquaintances found your partner's dating profile, do this: make a fake profile, text that profile while your partner is in the room. See if they get notifs/on their phone everytime you reply. I did this with my ex (and no, he didnt cheat, we broke up because he had to move to a different continent and we barely have time for a call, our time zone and schedules also didnt line up). My ex was watching tv while drinking a cup of tea and munching on snacks. Not once he was on his phone the whole time i was replying to the profile. This saved our relationship at the time and did not create a mess as big as the first story. I didnt do a smear campaign and turn my family against him. Turns out a friend of his was using a deepfake photo of him to catfish people.
You’d think that’s common sense. But common sense isn’t common at all… also one easier way is to just confront them without warning and get their phone to prove their innocence. Whether it’s bullshit or not it’ll be confirmed by the contents of his phone, since he/she wouldn’t be able to erase the evidence without previous warning. No Tinder, no crime.
That was the purpose OP knew what she was doing gaslighting the brother get him fired up when the husband arrived I'd wonder if it was deflection of her might be cheating this was a way to cover it up op was very vague in her post
No. The prime reason for the divorce was that she had no trust in him, once that was made obvious to him the relationship would never be the same, he would always be aware that, at any moment, she could turn on him. But in my opinion what made the relationship unrecoverable was him being "advised" to move out. He's been blindsided by, false accusations, physically attacked in his own home and then kicked out of it, had to find shelter and spend weeks at a time away from his kids while being bad mouthed by his erstwhile family. He'll be angered by this mistreatment, which will become hatred for his accuser, he'll remember all the times she offended him and all the times he sacrificed for her. He had months to stew and then she calls and says it's a misunderstanding, come back. Why? So a couple of years on she can do it again? Nope.
S3: Ok lets be honest... unless the dude was beating her while he was trying to prove his point, then it wasnt assault. They both consented to the sparing session. Also if OP hadnt done what he did, then his gf would've eventually put herself in a bad situation thinking she could handle it and would've gotten herself seriously injured. Id rather her lose a little self confidence over possibly losing her life
Regarding story 3, the comments are absurd. She willing participated and because she cried when pinned her down, that’s assault or domestic violence??? Sounds like he just bruised her ego. The sad thing is that he just wanted her to understand that her 2 workouts a week may not help her against an average sized man in a bad situation. The ones that likely happen at 1 am to both men and women despite their size.
Teenage pregnancy seems to be so common in some countries like it's so NORMAL?! Just like infidelity/adultery. Are these moral issues no longer taught nor discussed?
Story 1: Husband has been hurt too much and does not want back into the sh*t show that is her family. Consider this. Maybe OP wasn't that great a wife anyway and this cruel banishment was just the last straw. He may have been willing to overlook her shortcomings ( let herself go, lousy in the sack, lazy around the home, poor with money, annoying family, shady past) as long as she was loyal and supportive. Now maybe none of that is so. I am just theorising here. Maybe in her husband's eyes there was more wrong with the marriage than she admits or even realises. Then he gets unjustly cut off, beaten up and his life turned upside down. Maybe all that held him in the marriage was loyalty. If he is a decent, upright guy he might just figure this is the hand life dealt him so he'll grit his teeth and do his duty. Suddenly she turns her back on him and the last constraints have been removed. The contract has been broken and he longer owes anything to her. All bets are off. Paid in full and then some. He's got one life and he has already given her as much as she will ever get.
Story 3: That isn't assault. THAT IS A SPARRING MATCH. She agreed to it. If she didn't then it would be assault, but she did agree to it. She even had advantage on him. I hate redditors who think they live in a fairytale world where nothing bad happens. Unchecked egos lead to bad things. P.s. that update was a bit weird though like what
Sorry but third story is dumb asf. She legit agreed to it and cried when she realized she was wrong. Like wtf. And everyone on Reddit saying he assaulted her is wild to me. Looks like boxing and wrestling must be assault too, even though both parties agreed to it. So dumb.
@1:47 "even though i know WE love each other deeply". Well OP? that was the case BEFORE you accused him and send your storm troopers punch him. I would never go back with a woman like you, having so few faith in her husband.
Clearly not if you think she has anything to do with her neighbor catfishing women with her husband pictures. Your delusion is embarrassing.@@lawsonallen7741
@@lawsonallen7741 How is she evil? You can't honestly say that if given the same overwhelming evidence, you wouldn't have had even a vaguely similar response?
Story 1; girl calls up wife and says he's cheating. Wife, instead of a person to person confrontation, calls in her family for backup? NOPE. He's outta that shit even if the brother hadn't been hot headed. Sorry, but I'd do the exact same thing.
Yeah, especially since its the most clean break you can get. Like no one can blame you after what happened, with the exception of maybe her family, anyone who hears this would fully understand why he left.
Honestly, after how long its been. I would be surprised if he hasn’t started seeing women yet. Over a year, you know you are not getting back together. Might as well start looking for your next relationship
I heard this one before. The audacity of this woman to asks her husband to take her back when she didn't even give him a chance. On top of acting like this is all do to bad sircumstances. No maybe if she waited and gave her ex a minute to explain himself things would be different. Its real easy to make false evidence in the modern day. Always give your partner a chance to explain themselves.
And also the woe is me post after she destroyed his life and reputation. Being falsely accused will always ruin the accused's life, because there will be someone that believes he/she did it. So good for him for going NC and divorcing her
The fact that OP rushed to Reddit and only sought to repair his reputation after people suggested it as a means to win his favour speaks volumes to the lack of common knowledge there is with false allegations.
In this event the ex wife & her family acted without absolute proof . Is it too late ? Ask this , will you trust him every time or will there be 10 % doubt . He should sue the neighbour, and ask compensation from the ex and her family for destroying him on social media . Then he should just move on & block the whole family !
Not sure how old the kids are, but they’re probably too young to truly understand what’s going on except they know that mommy and daddy are separated but when those kids get age and they discover how their mother ruined their family, I have a feeling they’re going to really despise their mother
Bruh and most of those comments gotta be from women or feminist 1 yes he could have just showed that he was stronger without touching her 2 the aroused part that was wrong but it was his primal instinct 3 what some else had done that and she still thought she was stronger some thing way worse could've happend yall so quick to defend a woman you completely disregard the man he was wrong but he was also showing her what could happen
It a man's instinct to get arouse from woman's scent, IT IS CALL NATURAL, SECOND INLESS THIS HAPPEN WITH HER ALL THE TIME THEN SOMETHING WRONG WITH BOTH, BECAUSE IF SHE KEEO ASKING TO DO THIS THAN SHE GET A KICK OUT OF IT
I hate how reddit talks about cheating. If you get cheated on, you'll get _"IGNORE HIS BULLSHIT EXCUSES YOU'RE ENABLING HIM YOU HAVE TO OPEN YOUR EYES DONT TRUST HIM"_ and then if you find out that actually they person DIDN'T cheat, suddenly its _"WHY DIDNT YOU BELIEVE HIM YOU HAVE TO HEAR HIM OUT IF YOU LOVE HIM WHY DONT YOU TRUST HIM WHY WOULD YOU THINK HE'D CHEAT ON YOU, YOUR DISLOYALTY HAS RUINED HIS LIFE"_
In story 3 NTA, she insulted him on his strength and he told her to overpower him, she agreed, then failed. NTA and not domestic abuse. There is a reason why my dad always tells me to go with my mom on shopping runs when he can’t.
S3 alternate ending: so instead of showing my girlfriend the differences between the strength of the average man and a fit and strong woman, we slept on our bed after cuddling. (The next day) my girlfriend didnt come home tonight and it has me a little worried but this is normal behavior from her. (The following day) I woke up this morning and my girlfriend still isnt back and im really worried, I decided to take a shower as worrying is a waste of time considering my girlfriend can take care of herself. After the shower I noticed I got a message on my phone from the hospital, my girlfriend was assaulted last night. Now I cant stop thinking I could have prevented this. Comments: Bro why are you letting your girlfriend walk around alone at night? Comments: Youre a real piece of shit for not sitting your girlfriend down and talking with her more seriously about how strong women are still not as strong as the average man physically.
You think she would have listened? I've seen boss B's in pubs literally test this theory with aggression and when men are drunk and the women are provoking and humiliating men, it ends up with a woman being harmed and a man being arrested, every damn time. The funny thing is, I saw it once with a woman provoking a guy over and over and over and he pushed her with such force, when she got up, she shut up. She just taught her boyfriend the way to get her to stop provoking him is to assault her. I consider them asking for it when they act this way. Women are lucky the majority of men in most situations show immense restraint.
Isn't it funny how she was going to be right no matter the scenario? She's strong and defend herself against a man = she's right. She's strong and defends herself against the boyfriend = she's right. She's weak and cries when boyfriend proves her wrong = she's a victim of abuse and now she's right to cry and break up with him. She's weak and gets assaulted by strange men on the street = she's a victim of assault and is right to have people feel sorry for her and cater to her. There's simply no scenario in which she just learns her lesson and stops being dilutional.
Story 1 OP should offer her ex primary custody for their children for the next year at least so he can rebuild the relationship with his kids that was alienated. Kinda sick of her talking about how traumatic this was for her and how depressed she is when she's not the one who spent 14 months alienated from everyone she ever loved based on incredibly flimsy bullshit.
Best bet is to learn quantum physics and learn how to make a time machine. You've completely and utterly destroyed your marriage because you reacted too quickly and got your brother involved. Betrayal on that scale destroys love absolutely. You still love him, he no longer loves you. Wish for a time machine.
How it assault if the wrestling match if there was consent between the two before the match. The guy just wrestled her down to show a average guy is normally stronger than most women and if he was nervous with the people outside she had to show reality in a safe way before someone else did.
story 3 you gave your girlfriend a very necessary reality check. There's confidence then there's arrogance then there's delusion she was hovering somewhere between arrogance and delusion. She needed that, else she would of honestly gotten herself hurt or worse in the future.
Yep... I was going to make a comment about that. The second story: OP's daughter was raped by her uncle who happens to be OP's younger brother, then instead of standing behind his daughter who was a victim, he probably forced her hand to keep the pregnancy and then forced her to give him the rape baby. OP isn't just Ellie's adoptive father, he's Sarah's prison warden... not to mention the fact that he's both grandfather and uncle to Ellie.
Story 3: get away from this woman as fast as you can. She’s 25, gets mad over someone being worried about her walking alone in the middle of the night in a sketchy neighborhood (she’s dense asf), and then when he proved his point, she made hun sleep on the couch. She wasn’t crying because she was scared, she knew she was safe, she cried because she was mad and humiliated that she was wrong and didn’t hold her own. This is in no way abuse.
An apology doesn't magically fix anything, idk why people these days are always asking for them. There are things you can do to people were an apology doesn't even come close to make amends for it.
The worst part about this is that now he's tainted with the allegations and no matter how much evidence or confessions you get saying otherwise there will always be those who think that he actually did it.
S3: leave it to reddit to call a man abusive for proving a point to an egotistical female. I'm a strong woman. I have actually wrestled with scrawny men and won a few times out if sheer strength. HOWEVER....my brother? I could never hope to beat him or any man my size or bigger. He and my dad did their best to make sure I could defend myself. But they still always reminded me that it's the hope I fight enough they'll give up. Not the hope I will actually get away. Feminists hate me and argue with me constantly. None of them have ever actually had a man use their full strength against them so they just assume they're strong enough. No you're not. Not at all. Idc if you're 6'3. A 5'8 man will still be stronger than you. OP embarrassed her and she couldnt handle it. No domestic abuse happened whatsoever
Exactly. My daughter learned from me how to fight, she was older and taller when my younger son hit puberty and the strength differential massively made up for his lack of technique and sloppiness. To top it off, my daughters changing physique too made it very difficult to deal with the intensity of a sibling with sibling frustrations and hasn't yet reached the older age of puberty where he fully comprehends how it is fair that he is expected to hold back. It always amazes me how genuinely strong women amongst other women, do not have the feminist delusion and through experience can dispel it to them but they don't listen.
Story 3: You didn't shatter her confidence, you shattered her delusion. 97% of average men will be physically more powerful than most women and this girl boss 120lb woman beating up six guys narrative is extremely dangerous. When I was 13, I took down a female martial arts instructor who was an adult. Being trained is one thing, being male and having literally evolved for competition, strength and aggression, there's no contest. It is exceptionally dangerous for woman to walk about thinking they can deal with any men they come across. I taught my daughter to fight, I also had her instruct her younger brother. She is tall, when my son turned 12, puberty took over and even with a five inch height advantage, the gap in strength was noticeable, my daughter is under no illusion.
The uncle in story 2 being treated like he's the evil one is baffling, THEY WERE THE SAME AGE! 8 months apart is even a regular thing to see among classmates in the same grade at school. Redditor: "H-HOW COULD HE DO THAT WITH HIS OWN NIECE?!?" Same way and reasons the niece did it to her own uncle; it wasn't some creep adult uncle grooming his underaged niece, it was two related teenagers around 15~16 years of age thinking with their hormones instead of their underdeveloped brains and going Sweet Home Alabama with each other multiple times. You can't even say "well he didn't reach out to his kid so he's bad" when the niece was keeping the same secret and even cutting her own daughter out of photos because her existence made her feel sad, they just both seem just as bad but redditors think males have to pay the male tax in their minds.
That first marriage is over. I'm not gonna lie if i saw my mans pic on a dating profile, and he said it wasn't him. I wouldn't believe him either. Buuut, i dont do all that other drama. But i would've set the record straight afterward. Also, unless he put his hands on me, I see no need for violence.
See, that's my problem with these things... the cops always tell the man to leave for a while, never the woman. The man can have evidence she attacked him, and the cops still tell the man to leave for a bit
Lol so instead of speaking to him and asking him to explain himself, she gets everyone involved, even gets her brother to attack him - and now she thinks he'll take her back. He did well to get away from that family of psychos.
Story 1: The only innocent person in this story is the father and his kids. My only advice is to not taint the kids with any lies about infidelity. Tell them the truth so they know the damage you did as well as the damage your family did. They deserve to know that at least so they know why you should take the time to gather all the facts before you make an assumption. As for op herself, I suggest getting a tattoo on the wrist of her ex's name so every time she is about to make a clear decision she should look at that tattoo then ask herself if it is the right decision. As for the neighbors who callously ruined your ex's life, make it your business to ruin their lives utterly just as they ruined your ex. The lawyers may have some good ideas on that as clearly this could be the beginnings of a defamation suit that will follow them to the grave.
Story 2, so their daughter was pregnant, when they ask her who the father was and she said no they just accepted it? WTF (you should be telling her that you will beat the shit out of her and throw her out if she doesnt answer the question)? Ellie also doesnt seem to see anything wrong with having a baby at 15 in that house and the consequences of that action havent been beaten into her head. Complain all you want about not beating kids but its important for your kids to be beaten regularly so that they fear being beaten because they are not mature enough to understand other consequences like how it will affect any future marriage opportunities or the money it takes to raise a kid. Its no wonder kids are having kids in that family, you cant let kids be dictating how they live their lives when they are under your roof and you need to use the whip from time to time. Ethan isnt a danger to his own daughter, the fact that Sarah and Ellie had kids under his watch shows that his parenting is what he should really be worried about. OP is just upset with him for this which is understandable but its better for Ellie in the long run to not be banned from seeing her real father and its partialy his fault for not laying down the law with his kids (some kids will still misbehave but it reduces the chances of such happening). For her to reach out shows that she wants some sort of relationship even if he denied her initially but given the situation its understandable why he would. Sarah and Ethan were wrong but they were just horny kids, had OP been more iron fisted he would have known who the father is earlier, Sarah might not have become a baby mama and some better arrangement could have been done. Maybe Ellie wouldnt even be about to be a single mum
Story 1: I'm glad he got rid of her, the fact she didn't give him a chance to defend himself and tge fact he got assaulted by her brother is the nail in the coffin
I understand her first reaction when she thought he was cheating, but communicating instead of involving family would have been much more productive. He did the right thing by leaving.
Really? I'm a hothead, and I still wouldn't have gone nuclear over a random call from a stranger and a Tinder account.
And, I sure as heck wouldn't have involved my family.
Yes and no because if you partner never cheated before then over reaction, but if your partner has shown some shady behavior I would have acted with yelling and screaming
😂😂😂 women love drama, even without listening to his side she must have told the kids and everyone who will listen that he is the devil for cheating as well as how he used to abuse her. All she had to do was check his phone to see if its connected to the tinder account then start the investigation from there. She knows her brother and likely encouraged the fight in some passive aggressive way. What will happen the next time that they have an issue, won't she just get him shot or something.
Who are those so called friends that cut him off for such a thing. If my friend told me that he didnt cheat then I would believe him because a man wouldnt lie to his fellow man about it and even if he did that is no reason to cut off your bro (my wife doesnt get an opinion on this because I'm sure that one if not all of the women in her life have cheated on someone in the past because its what W do 🙈)
That neighbour deserves a good ass whooping. If he wanted to see naked women then he should have just googled them and if he wanted to cut fish them then he should have downloaded someone elses picture.
Often in the cheating stories, the betrayed spouse waits for more evidence. That's what shoulda happened there.
I don't understand why OP's family even got involved unless she called them to get them involved... I wouldn't have involved my family with my spouse if I ever got into an argument with him. I feel bad for OP but I feel worse for the husband. However, she should have communicated with him and listened to him... and not involve her family.
However, if the photos were taken and kept on the computer, I presume he sent those pictures to OP. So why didn't she recognise those photos?
Yeah, The husband had a clear case of suing everyone from being Assaulted, Defamation of Character, Identity Theft, Slander, and Emotional Distress...
I feel bad for him since he essentially lost everything over something that wasn't his fault
Depending on the location the retraction may have removed the ability to sue for Slander/Defamation. Parental alienation could also play into the divorce proceedings though.
Depending on the location, the truth, or what you had reason to believe was the truth, will also protect you against defamation. As many places (in the US at least) define defamation as intentionally spreading something you know is false, and is done with the intent to harm their reputation.
As for assault, the update said the brother reacted to the husband grabbing OPs arm, so that one can also be claimed as a justifiable reaction based on the husbands assault (grabbing) against OP.
@@nehcrum What you're referring to, and what HeliosX28 is forgetting, is known as the "Actual Malice" standard. The husband would have to prove that his ex/ex's family either purposefully tried to smear his name, or that they should have known the truth but didn't care (ie. negligent). I don't think he could prove that.
Don't worry, none of those stories are actually real.
@@tomjoad1363 r/nothingeverhappens
I love how she and everyone knows she deliberately instigated her brother into attacking her ex despite her attempt to act like she didn't.
There's some missing from the first story too. She also went to all their mutual friends to tell them he was guilty, and got him fired from his job because of it. She went straight scorched earth and is now upset Ex wants nothing to do with her. Yeah, I have absolutely zero sympathy for her on this one.
She wasn't all to broken up either so my guess in those 14 months she most likely had someone else with her.
@@mshake7056 more like in her
First OP is defiantly lying/making herself look better. She called her family over and the cops to have him thrown out without hearing his side of the story. Then went on a smear campaign. I understand her for not fully believing him but she handled the issue terribly.
And the thing is that if these pictures existed on the husband's computer he was probably sending them to OP in the first place since naked pictures are a thing with couples apparently... but yet, she didn't recognise the images?
@@Lili-bg4hg You have some nerve pulling the “like all men do” card on a video where that exact mindset resulted in a woman blowing up her marriage over nothing and accusing an innocent man of a heinous betrayal
@@Lili-bg4hgYeah, you can take your “Like all men do” crap and leave. Judging the entirety of men based on your sole experiences with some is pure idiocy and just really says a lot about your character. Some of us men are good and some aren’t just like some women are good and some aren’t, that’s just the way it is. Your generalized statement is just wrong, period.
I had a previous girlfriend who had cheated on me, did I assume my now loving girlfriend wold do the same? Of course not! that’d just be lunacy.
Not only that, it's kind of odd she doesn't answer if she slept when someone else during separation
@@thestalker67probably she did, and that the reason why her husband don't want to mend the marriage 😂😂😂
Story 1: OP doesnt want reconciliation, she wants a clear conscious.
There is no coming back from this and i hope the STBXH get what is rightfully his in the divorce
She was seeing another guy that's why she wasn't so broken up by him not wanting her back. She was sad she lost her old life but not to sad since she had basically moved on
@@mshake7056You're reaching.
@@mshake7056do you think this of men in the same situation or is it because she is a women?
@@HumanB312Yes, when they act the same way. She didnt sound like she was missing him a whole lot, thats what he was saying. She completely moved on thinking she was gonna divorce him and found out after 14 months of her "new life" that he was infact right, so she was like "why not get back together if theres nothing wrong" but at this point his life was ruined by her actions. The complete story actually says that she got him fired and went completely scorched earth on him by intentionaly going to all their friends to spread this.
But I know what you mean and yes, I would think that first before thinking shes innocent, just because she would be a woman.
Story 3: couldn't stand this one. It's NOT ASSAULT. They agreed to mutual combat. In fact, he said he allowed her to start on top of him. He flipped her and wouldn't let her up until she admitted defeat. Sounds like an ordinary wrestling competition to me. And somehow everyone manipulates OP into believing he assaulted his girlfriend. Unless he didn't let her up when she admitted defeat, then it's not assault.
Correct. But reddit is reddit.
Like, damn, they gaslit him into thinking he was doing that because he enjoys hurting her.
Reddit is a fucking cesspool that's why you never check the comments on those post
Yup. Women are equal to men... until it's advantageous in a situation, then they are children and need protection.
He got consent and started with her pinning him. She agreed and when she was pinning him there was zero issue.
Exactly. The gas lighting is very strong with the toxic comments
Story 1: Nah once the brother punched him, she lost it. And never apologized about that. OP deserves to lose everything in the divorce.
How much do you wanna bet that she got the kids, the house, alimony, and child support? I bet the ex hubby is scraping by in a shitty apartment or trailer.
She can never make it right. People WILL ALWAYS remember the accusations & him being arrested + the 14 months of EVERYONE ragging on him. If OP wants to make it right then give the mane primary custody for the next couple of years ù you see them when you can afford to fly to Australia.
Arrested?
Did I get it wrong? I thought cops took him away. I'll rewatch it, quite likely I messed it up.
@@nehcrum sorry, yes I got confused. He was escorted out, guess I got that mixed with brother in law getting arrested.
If I was in OP's husband's case, I would never be able to forgive my spouse for what happened, and I am a woman. This man's reputation was destroyed, his entire friend circle was probably taking OP's side, and he lost the love and support of his found family that he made with OP (her parents and siblings). He's had his entire life and world taken from him because OP is petty and gross.
I hope that the husband gets custody of the children and if not, then I hope that there's a co-parenting plan put in place so that he could still be part of their lives. Hopefully, OP won't be bitter and petty about that.
@@TiffWaffles Remove every "right" that was illegally gained in your sexes name or shut up. You are not good.
He didn't assault her he restrained her and gave her a reality check she desperately needed. She also agreed to this and is now butt hurt that her delusions were cut short.
Not to mention she literally agreed to it and started the match pinning him
Yeah, but she didn't think to stop when she started crying. This type of thinking is sick, and I worry for anyone in your life, stranger.
@@Bijecarli most people need a reality check nowadays and it's not a sick way to think a sick way to think is planning to murder someone
@@Bijecarli There's Confidence after that there's Arrogance after that there's delusion. Id say she was closer to delusion in this instance, She needed to learn beyond a shadow of a doubt that her way of thinking was utterly unfounded. She was literally in 0 harm, and to classify what he did as Assault is ridiculous. She was honestly just going through the stages of grief. Its understandable that she'd be upset, her entire world view that she lived with and that was probably instilled into her by the family that raised her was shattered in a matter of minutes. But at the end of it all she'd come out more knowledgeable about her strengths and weaknesses.
This is what happens when the tards of Reddit get a say in anything
The fact that she still justifies why they assaulted him and make it look like a misunderstanding is fucked up. Your brother thought he was rightful and shit, but he is just a pathetic bully. It’s good that your husband left you, the only mistake he did, is giving you closure. You don’t even deserve it.
Exactly
The moment she asked him what she could do to fix this, his only answer should've been "build a time machine and go back to that day and listen to my side and believe me, if you can't then it's over*. As simple as that
How is story 3 an assault when both parties agreed to it?
Because reddittors
If you want to get technical. It is assault. However,it is assault on GF,not OP. Yes,he challenged her to a sparring. She was the 1st to initiate the attack.
Not technically speaking. He challenged her,she accepted. They sparred. She lost. No assault. Their sparring session wasn't any different than sessions that take place in training for the military,martial arts,boxing,etc. This is why she couldn't try to press charges on him(unless she lied about the whole situation).
@lindah3803 Interesting how she tried to emasculate him by saying if anything he needs to be worried about walking around at night because he's a 5'9 scrawny guy. She doesn't think that could've hurt him? She needs to learn from this and stop being an immature troublemaker
Had she had won the wrestling match, he wouldn't have heard the end of it. 😂😂😂
@@lindah3803that's just how it is with women she'd rather end her relationship than acknowledged she isn't as strong, also I think it's the way he went about it if he had done it differently I don't think it would have ended this way.
This third story is so frustrating. It's all to common for women today to claim they are self sufficient and can protect themselves from men.
The feminist movement has filled their heads with these ideas, that are seriously misguided. Only a women that is highly trained in hand to hand
combat, has any chance against the average man. The disparity in strength and the ability to take punishment is understated.
This is not a story of assault. The OP knew she needed a serious reality check, or else she would certainly end up a victim. It cost him his
relationship to teach her this lesson. Some women don't know when to give up some of these delusions. OP never physically harmed his girlfriend.
He only hurt her ego. This is something that women often have no problem doing to men. Truth is, it's the first thing a women will target.
OP proved to her that in an altercation with a strange man, going for his ego will not protect her and physically, she would not be able to do so herself.
She needed to be humbled, if she hadn't, she likely would've fucked around and found out, and nobody wins in that situation
Story 2: I am sorry, but if your 1st daughter had a teen pregnancy, you should have taught you 2nd daughter/granddaughter about using protection, and maybe even got her the pill early.
😂😂😂 I'm with you because she clearly doesn't seem upset about having a kid because she must know that OP will raise it
Even with Sarah, so she just said that she won't tell who the father is and they allowed it. In my family they will beat the crap out of you and if you still refuse to talk then they will throw you out.
Children cant understand consequences like how it will affect your future but they understand that they will be beaten if they mess up.
At this rate OP will raise Ellies kid as well and in the next 15 years the kid will have another baby for him to raise 🤦
How tf did both of them get pregnant at the same age of 15???
@@_cup_of_tea they have the ha DNA, they were raised by the same people, raised in the same family were taught the same things so it was inevitable. If she is pregnant with a girl and raised by them then she will likely also end up having a kid at the same age
They did, you clearly didn’t listen because it clearly stated “they didn’t want to use protection for their first time, and they thought them being careful would avoid the pregnancy.”
More than likely some precum made it to her egg and she got knocked up by literal proteins not even a full genetic sample. Just like 3/4 of one missing non important enzymes in this case.
But that’s speculation, much like you assuming they didn’t teach em about contraceptives when they literally said they did and they just didn’t wanna use em.
I also would keep Sarah far away from Ellie. We have a woman (bio mother of Ellie) who hates and resents this girl's existence one minute, then wants to be part of her life and wanting to play the role of her mother the next. She's going to mess Ellie up even more. This was an oopsie on Ellie's part and there are other options that Ellie's real parents (OP and his wife) can push her to do.
Story 1: Yeah no forgiveness is there. She didn't trust her husband he got assaulted over no fault of his. Why should he forgive or trust a woman who never trusted him? They can have a healthy coparenting relationship but that's as far as it should go.
Well you need to see the OP’s side cause she had concrete proof of her husband messaging intimately with other women no one could have imagined this was a fake case like imagine getting proof of your partner cheating on you you won’t think about oh maybe someone faked his profile and did this
@@aritraghosh4143 She isn't wrong for sure but honestly discussing or confronting him directly with proof should have been better. People definitely trust the partner and family to be more trusting of them, if they live by stranger's logic what's the point? What guarantees that she will not mistrust him or throw him under the bus again over a misunderstanding.
@@aritraghosh4143 Proof lol.
@@aritraghosh4143 What concrete proof? She was contacted anonymously with claims that he was trying to hookup with others, and pointed to an account online that claimed to be him. That was it. She didn’t investigate further, didn’t try to directly connect him to the account, didn’t investigate when these would have occurred. So many other stories like these, the OP refuses to fully believe it until all the dots are connected and they can establish the trail fully or directly catch them in the act.
@@aritraghosh4143 lies people fake shit all the time and she ruined his life
Story 3: FUUCK I HATE REDDIT! She needed to know the real world and she needed to know that she isn't someone who can beat men in a strength competition no matter how hard she tried! She fuck around a found out! FUCK REDDIT!
You already know that if the woman had won, they would've called him a weakling and that he lost in a fair competition. Not a single one of them would've said she assaulted him
OP did not "shatter her self confidence", he shattered her delusion.
The OP is a victim of the neighbor but the husband is a victim of the OP. OP deservers to be alone. Nothing she can do will undo the damage done to him and his reputation.
The Husband is a victim of multiple crimes, from multiple directions. Her just being the largest, but the neighbors should be sued.
Story 1:
Your first mistake was just assuming your husband's guilt without talking it out with him first and trying to figure out what happened. Your second mistake was getting your family involved, because that's basically assuring escalation. Your third mistake was thinking you can just reconcile and make things go back to the way they were - the damage is done. There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube. You've shown your husband you have no trust in him, you've unleashed your family on him which resulted in him being hurt by your dumbass brother. You may try to rekindle your relationship, but you've already done such greivous harm to your husband that I can't imagine him ever really trusting you, your family, or your dumbass brother again. And yes, I will keep calling him a dumbass, because punching someone is a dumbass thing to do, so he is worthy of the title.
This is why people need to do a harder job teaching their daughters a sense of accountability so they don't learn the hard way like this
3rd story: wasn’t an assault. He literally gave her reality. What is he suppose to let his gf get hurt and be over confident, which is 90% women who are bad people? She agreed and he showed her. What’s taking it too far?
"We love each other dearly."
Yeah... why don't I see that from what was said?
S3: NTA. This girl got a big ego that she was stronger, only for her only for him to completely decimate it. She f---ed around and found out. When you challenge someone to see who's stronger, you don't get to get butt hurt because you lost.
S3 redditors being soy per usual. Ive been in that situation before. Me, a skinny computer nerd with an athletic background but stopped working out / lost my gains after a knee injury 18 months prior. She, an avid athlete who had all the confidence of the world. We were coworkers and she would tease me that she could beat me in an arm wrestle. I would laugh it off and say she has "girl muscles", it just isnt the same. Then she got serious and I showed her know that we werent even close in strength.
S1: OP was not too far down the rabbit hole, they were already in underland(wonderland)💀
"we're all mad here"
story 3: NTA
Exactly she effed around and found out. Let's not forget she tried to emasculate bybsaying he's the one that needs to be scared because he's a 5'9 scrawny guy. It's wasn't a problem until that 5'9 scrawny guy put you in a hild.you couldn't get out of and you started crying 😂. She needs to learn from this and not be an immature troublemaker.
Hi, what is NTA? Sorry not an american so I don't know this kind of terms?😅
@@kamenballer It means not the asshole
@@kamenballer not the asshole
@@kamenballerNot The Asshole
Husband should sue the neighbor. And sue brother for assault
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Hope the husband does divorce OP, just to get away from her and her toxic family.
Is it really fair to say they are toxic, they did have “proof” after all. I think this whole thing is just a fucked up mess and the neighbor is the one at fault.,
@@PokeBattlerJaze Yes it is fair. She knew exactly what she was doing when she called her tough guy brother to rough him up because she was mad. This woman is a jackass and comes from a family of jackasses apparently.
Did you read the whole story? She didnt call her family to come oevr she called to let her mom know she was fropong the kids off. Her mom broguht the whole family and her mom saud the husband cheated to the brother. She had no cause in the brother punching him.@@TheDevourer28
@@TheDevourer28 Would you not be mad if you thought and had "proof" that your SO was cheating on you, and technically, she told them that she was dropping off the kids.
@@DetsubkrodMe reading the story has nothing to do with what I wrote because the context is in what was not said first off. 2nd why is he the one that was forced to leave home by police? Why was the brother not arrested for assault? She wanted this to happen to him and I'll bet dollars to donuts that her and her family told the cops some bs to get that man thrown out his own house.
Edit to add for story 1: OP could have texted the profile to see if it responds while her husband was in the room and it would have cleared it up asap as an impersonator.
Thank you!! It could've been so easy to prove, but she went straight to the extreme with little investigation! Did the husband even have Tinder on his phone at all? How did she believe this with such certainty that she involved her family before hearing his side??
Thank you! This is what i did with my ex(we broke up because he had to move to a different continent and we barely got any time to even call each other). My friend found his profile, i tried texting 'him' while he was in the room. Thankfully i did that. He was drinking tea and munching while watching tv while the profile was actively replying to me. Turns out his friend was catfishing people using his photo.
she didn't know because she didn't CARE to know
Imagine being attacked in your own home by her family and being asked to leave. That is so unacceptable in so many ways, she should have been the one to have to go to stay with her family that decided to interject themselves into a private matter.
Story 3. Nta. Op did her a favor by showing her that she really is vulnerable and that men are much stronger then women.
thank you, those redditor's tearing into him really annoyed me.
Yeah, and she accepted the "demonstration". While she was winning it was normal, but when he showed to her how wrong she was, it was assault. Makes no sense at all, that's why I think the story is fake, and if you take the ending in consideration, it's even worse.
@@Emmanuel-ws3qome too, I swear they are so sensitive
Agree. He challenged her to a sparring. She accepted. Went full in. When he was able to turn the tables,she started bawling. Even though he just had her pinned. He wasn't hurting her. A gal with her attitude needs self-defense classes,in addition to swing classes. I've been around a few gal's like her. I always recommend classes. I've seen what happened to a couple of those gals after they were attacked. A whole lot more than just their bodies were harmed.
@@lindah3803 yes definitely
Story 1: Your reconciliation prospects don’t look good. You effectively called him a liar and gave him no chance or opportunity to defend himself nor did you trust or believe him. Therefore, YOU destroyed the trust. Once it’s gone it’s unlikely to return and even if it does, there will always be lingering doubts and resentment. That’s all on you and your crappy family. I wouldn’t get back together with anyone who so easily tossed me aside or refused to trust me or believe in me.
Gonna have a harsh opinion on story 3
She is extraordinarily overdramatic.
You boast openly about how little you actually understand your own strength, and then when it's demonstrated to you in a situation WHERE YOU ARENT IN DANGER AND ITS WITH SOMEONE YOUR SUPPOSED TO TRUST, you turn around and victimize yourself instead of admitting you overestimated your abilities and could have gotten yourself killed for acting like a idiot if it was a real situation. Not all muggers use Knives jackass.
Then she just decided to find a guy who could defend her instead of heeding the lesson. Gotta love that double standard... 🤨
I’m sorry but that’s actually nit enough evidence for me, it’s enough to make me start snooping but I think the first thing I’d do is Search my partners phone for something that corroborates what I’m seeing.
Right. I'm only in my early twenties but even when I was in high school the girls in our school would take photos from Facebook and Instagram of random people from our community and create catfish profiles just to stir up drama. It's scarily common now to the point where you almost have to immediately question it
Story 1: If OP really wants to do something right by her ex, just let him go, let him see his kids again, clear his name and leave him alone.
Bro, story 3 is NOT assault. As a woman, I would be grateful for such an IMPORTANT wake-up call. Her thinking she was stronger than the average man because she worked out twice a week was dangerous! Imagine if she was robbed or something and tried to fight back, then she'd get robbed and likely killed.
Unless she is power-lifting some SERIOUS weight, I wouldn't bet on her being stronger than the average man, especially if she's only at the gym twice a week.
Guys definitely take on more weight even when exercising 2 times a week… what was she thinking?
What the boyfriend did in the 3rd story wasn't all the way wrong. His thoughts of how it felt good to over power her and see her crying isn't good and he needs to work on that. But then again didnt she try to emasculate him by saying if anything he needs to be the one scared because he's a 5'9 scrawny guy (noones going to acknowledge that). The girlfriend accepted the challenge and she effed around and found out. Does she think that an attacker will take it easy on her? An attacker will really give you something to cry about. She wants to break up with you over this, then it's her loss. She wants to go around like she's this big bad wolf and not take heed to your concerns then you shouldn't be with her. She's a trouble maker who will put herself in a bad situation and then expect you to bail her out when it falls through. Hopefully she won't take lightly another 5'9 scrawny man.
3rd story it isnt assault, she literally agreed to try her hardest to put him down and he showed he how easy it is to overpower her. Great life lesson and women should feel scared walking alone at night like the actually naivety of modern women is astounding. Type of of people to walk barefoot on broken glass then complain that their foot hurts.
4:44 "OP is the devil because she couldn't divine that this 'clear cut case' of cheating was instead a 'highly unlikely series of events' that resulted in her husband's private photos on an active Tinder account in her direct vicinity and proof of that account engaging with women".
Well, duh! When you find a fake Tinder account with your photos I think it's safe to assume that the very 1st explanation that comes to your mind is that somebody is catfishing as you, and I'd bet anything that that's exactly what her husband would have said to her had he ever had the chance to talk.
Yes, and then the location shows up as being so very close that the number of possible people that can catfish just decreased dramatically.
And how many cheaters look at the evidence and gas light with: "That's not me."
@@RequiemPoete And how many people, when accused of having committed a crime answer with "I'm innocent"?
There is a reason for the high level of evidence required in a court of law, because coincidences do happen and not everyone that looks guilty is actually guilty.
@nehcrum I'm simply pointing out an innocent man and a guilty man say the same thing. And if the wife was the OP the tinder account would be enough evidence for rreddit.
@@RequiemPoete Ah, then I misunderstood you.
And I agree with you.
21:16 ( Story 3 ) OP didn't "shatter her confidence". He shattered the delusion and arrogance that were GOING to get her hurt or SA'ed. Did he handle it the best? No. Would she have EVER listened and learned the truth otherwise? Also probably no. Maybe he scared her, but he was doing her a favor in the long run.
Story 3: Imagine getting dumped by your gf because she got upset that she couldn't overpower you, the average untrained man. Then gaslights you into thinking it was abuse. Get rekt. 😂
That is the realization that every woman has at some point, that makes us at least slightly afraid of men we don't know REALLY well. Every woman has a situation, either through playing around or a traumatic situation, where they realize that a man of similar size to them is likely still able to physically overpowe them, no matter how hard or dirty they were to fight. It's eye opening, and some women feel more feminine and fragile because of it and simply try and choose a good strong man to settle down with, and others freak out and resent all men for the fact that they've finally figured out that "equal" doesn't mean "same"
And it's honestly sad, these ridiculous feminists will never realize that "wives submit to your husbands" DOESN'T mean submit as in dominance vs submission, it simply means "wives, please allow your husbands to be your protectors" and don't pull crap like that story
@@LMCorvinus Good points. Very insightful.
@@LMCorvinus two great books I can recommend, recognizing the disparity in strength: Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker, and When Violence is the Answer by Tim Larkin. Both provide sober and effective advice for both women and men.
It kind of was abuse, there's trying to teach her a lesson and then going too far. The moment she started sniffling he should've stopped but nope he caused her to cry, that was straight up domestic assault.
@@LMCorvinus It was funny 10-20 years ago when someone jokes about women being as strong or stronger than men, it's a sad state we are living now when a girl/woman who is same size, bit smaller or bit larger thinks that she can overpower a grown man....Seen some occasions where young adult women genuinely tried to fight guys, it wasn't funny.
Third story: OP didn't assault her, he educated her on the reality of this cruel world.
Story 3: you did not shatter anything, you opened her eye and made her see logic. I also am a woman that can stand her ground, i am also trained in a few fighting styles, I even managed to hold my own against 3 guys and won, but not due to strength, but because I was lucky, i fought dirty and won.
I am always scared of getting my ass handed to me, because I know I would not stand a chance in a true 1:1 with a man.
Women are delusional and don’t understand that men and women cannot compete in strength, us women need to be opportunistic if we are in a fight and try to knock our opponent out as fast as we can to get the upper hand.
But people that say they are not scared, are just stupid.
Fear keeps you alive in certain situations and also allows you to not get into dangerous situations just because “we can handle it”…
He shattered her delusion. One well worth shattering too. Women today have experienced very little physical violence at the hands of men, which is certainly a good thing, but the narrative of the 120lb boss B throwing around a bunch of guys. You got extremely lucky and knew what to do, I'm thankful you knew to strike and dash. There's many women that would stand their ground thinking because they got a few good hits in on two guys, the next guy is just another guy.
@@loganblackwood2922 i know, i am a big “amazonian type” woman, 170 cm was 70 kg back then and was also hitting the gym 2 times per day 6 days a week, and I know several fighting styles, but I still wouldn’t be comfortable in a situation like this, I agree that most of my “sisters” live in a delulu world, they saw waaaaay too many bad B movies and think that women can actually win in a 1:1 with a man in a fight 😂😂 and this getting more and more obvious and I am less shocked by the day, and that’s not a good thing 🤦🏼♀️😂
Maybe she should have done more research before believing a complete stranger over her husband, the fact he got physically assaulted and had to leave his house, I’d be pissed too. Her brother is lucky he didn’t killed in self defense.
Story 1: “OP is the victim too”, nah, her husband was the victim. She escalated everything without actual proof and now she needs to leave the man alone.
Story 3: Assault? What? These people are insane. She began the assault and got a lesson in physics. Get a life you muppets.
They are both victims, she is sort of a victim to what the neighbors did.
He is a larger victim and she is one of the people he is a victim of.
So, Op 1 called her family to "calm the situation" but they ended up beating her husband. Sure... She did not called her brother to beat her husband from the start. No, sir. He wasn't saved of serious injuries by the police. No, no, no. Suggesting this is preposterous. Op, also, isn't an unreliable narrator trying to diminish her actions. I'll cut this comment short because the Easter Bunny is waiting for me in Santa's sleight so we can go to Atlantis to drink a beer with an honest politician because his dragon died.
LMAO. You've got quite the trip ahead of you. Just to have a beer.
I think in those 14 months she got some get back with another man. That’s why she’s asking is she too far down the rabbit hole.
Listen people. If you or any of your acquaintances found your partner's dating profile, do this: make a fake profile, text that profile while your partner is in the room. See if they get notifs/on their phone everytime you reply. I did this with my ex (and no, he didnt cheat, we broke up because he had to move to a different continent and we barely have time for a call, our time zone and schedules also didnt line up). My ex was watching tv while drinking a cup of tea and munching on snacks. Not once he was on his phone the whole time i was replying to the profile. This saved our relationship at the time and did not create a mess as big as the first story. I didnt do a smear campaign and turn my family against him. Turns out a friend of his was using a deepfake photo of him to catfish people.
You’d think that’s common sense. But common sense isn’t common at all… also one easier way is to just confront them without warning and get their phone to prove their innocence. Whether it’s bullshit or not it’ll be confirmed by the contents of his phone, since he/she wouldn’t be able to erase the evidence without previous warning. No Tinder, no crime.
"am i too far down the rabbit hole?"
"We're all mad here, now where is the jabberwocky?"
Her brother putting hands on him is what made the relationship unsavable
That was the purpose OP knew what she was doing gaslighting the brother get him fired up when the husband arrived I'd wonder if it was deflection of her might be cheating this was a way to cover it up op was very vague in her post
No. The prime reason for the divorce was that she had no trust in him, once that was made obvious to him the relationship would never be the same, he would always be aware that, at any moment, she could turn on him. But in my opinion what made the relationship unrecoverable was him being "advised" to move out. He's been blindsided by, false accusations, physically attacked in his own home and then kicked out of it, had to find shelter and spend weeks at a time away from his kids while being bad mouthed by his erstwhile family. He'll be angered by this mistreatment, which will become hatred for his accuser, he'll remember all the times she offended him and all the times he sacrificed for her. He had months to stew and then she calls and says it's a misunderstanding, come back. Why? So a couple of years on she can do it again? Nope.
S3: Ok lets be honest... unless the dude was beating her while he was trying to prove his point, then it wasnt assault. They both consented to the sparing session. Also if OP hadnt done what he did, then his gf would've eventually put herself in a bad situation thinking she could handle it and would've gotten herself seriously injured. Id rather her lose a little self confidence over possibly losing her life
Regarding story 3, the comments are absurd. She willing participated and because she cried when pinned her down, that’s assault or domestic violence??? Sounds like he just bruised her ego. The sad thing is that he just wanted her to understand that her 2 workouts a week may not help her against an average sized man in a bad situation. The ones that likely happen at 1 am to both men and women despite their size.
Teenage pregnancy seems to be so common in some countries like it's so NORMAL?! Just like infidelity/adultery. Are these moral issues no longer taught nor discussed?
Having any expectations on women and girls is considered misogyny so men keep quiet and women lead themselves to their own ruin.
Story 1: Husband has been hurt too much and does not want back into the sh*t show that is her family.
Consider this. Maybe OP wasn't that great a wife anyway and this cruel banishment was just the last straw. He may have been willing to overlook her shortcomings ( let herself go, lousy in the sack, lazy around the home, poor with money, annoying family, shady past) as long as she was loyal and supportive.
Now maybe none of that is so. I am just theorising here. Maybe in her husband's eyes there was more wrong with the marriage than she admits or even realises. Then he gets unjustly cut off, beaten up and his life turned upside down. Maybe all that held him in the marriage was loyalty. If he is a decent, upright guy he might just figure this is the hand life dealt him so he'll grit his teeth and do his duty. Suddenly she turns her back on him and the last constraints have been removed. The contract has been broken and he longer owes anything to her.
All bets are off. Paid in full and then some. He's got one life and he has already given her as much as she will ever get.
Her family got in the middle of it because SHE PUT THEM in the middle of it
Story 3: That isn't assault. THAT IS A SPARRING MATCH. She agreed to it. If she didn't then it would be assault, but she did agree to it. She even had advantage on him. I hate redditors who think they live in a fairytale world where nothing bad happens. Unchecked egos lead to bad things.
P.s. that update was a bit weird though like what
Love how story 3 a feminist responds with "all men" clearly cant differentiate small minority to the majority
Immediately after saying she would use her uncles as proxy to assault her boyfriend.
Sorry but third story is dumb asf. She legit agreed to it and cried when she realized she was wrong. Like wtf. And everyone on Reddit saying he assaulted her is wild to me. Looks like boxing and wrestling must be assault too, even though both parties agreed to it. So dumb.
@1:47 "even though i know WE love each other deeply". Well OP? that was the case BEFORE you accused him and send your storm troopers punch him.
I would never go back with a woman like you, having so few faith in her husband.
You are pure Evil. Get a lawyer. Go after your wife for what she did. She can't get away with it.
just say you didint watch the video omfg
@@palamedes4740 I watched the video thank you. Get over your self!
Clearly not if you think she has anything to do with her neighbor catfishing women with her husband pictures. Your delusion is embarrassing.@@lawsonallen7741
@@lawsonallen7741 How is she evil? You can't honestly say that if given the same overwhelming evidence, you wouldn't have had even a vaguely similar response?
@@slothysoap4589 "overwhelmin"
when she says "now that i look back obviously he was being used as a catfish"
Story 1; girl calls up wife and says he's cheating. Wife, instead of a person to person confrontation, calls in her family for backup? NOPE. He's outta that shit even if the brother hadn't been hot headed. Sorry, but I'd do the exact same thing.
Yeah, especially since its the most clean break you can get.
Like no one can blame you after what happened, with the exception of maybe her family, anyone who hears this would fully understand why he left.
Story 1 - she’s already slept with other people. She would have said she hadn’t otherwise.
Honestly, after how long its been. I would be surprised if he hasn’t started seeing women yet. Over a year, you know you are not getting back together. Might as well start looking for your next relationship
I heard this one before. The audacity of this woman to asks her husband to take her back when she didn't even give him a chance. On top of acting like this is all do to bad sircumstances. No maybe if she waited and gave her ex a minute to explain himself things would be different. Its real easy to make false evidence in the modern day. Always give your partner a chance to explain themselves.
💯💯💯💯
And also the woe is me post after she destroyed his life and reputation. Being falsely accused will always ruin the accused's life, because there will be someone that believes he/she did it. So good for him for going NC and divorcing her
@ianmoritzplatapino3684 I hope the guy finds happiness. Also he should have pressed charges for the assault.
i mean, the evidence was clear, the tinder had private pictures of him, you can´t fake those
The fact that OP rushed to Reddit and only sought to repair his reputation after people suggested it as a means to win his favour speaks volumes to the lack of common knowledge there is with false allegations.
In this event the ex wife & her family acted without absolute proof . Is it too late ? Ask this , will you trust him every time or will there be 10 % doubt . He should sue the neighbour, and ask compensation from the ex and her family for destroying him on social media . Then he should just move on & block the whole family !
She failed her husband
Not sure how old the kids are, but they’re probably too young to truly understand what’s going on except they know that mommy and daddy are separated but when those kids get age and they discover how their mother ruined their family, I have a feeling they’re going to really despise their mother
I really hate it when im posting a comment, and an ad comes up and deleted the comment im writing. Come on UA-cam.
Try an ad blocker.
If you are on mobile, they don’t always post anyway. Comments are literally broken
Bruh and most of those comments gotta be from women or feminist 1 yes he could have just showed that he was stronger without touching her 2 the aroused part that was wrong but it was his primal instinct 3 what some else had done that and she still thought she was stronger some thing way worse could've happend yall so quick to defend a woman you completely disregard the man he was wrong but he was also showing her what could happen
It a man's instinct to get arouse from woman's scent, IT IS CALL NATURAL, SECOND INLESS THIS HAPPEN WITH HER ALL THE TIME THEN SOMETHING WRONG WITH BOTH, BECAUSE IF SHE KEEO ASKING TO DO THIS THAN SHE GET A KICK OUT OF IT
_most of those comments gotta be from women or feminist_
They are from Reddit, so yes.
I hate how reddit talks about cheating. If you get cheated on, you'll get _"IGNORE HIS BULLSHIT EXCUSES YOU'RE ENABLING HIM YOU HAVE TO OPEN YOUR EYES DONT TRUST HIM"_ and then if you find out that actually they person DIDN'T cheat, suddenly its _"WHY DIDNT YOU BELIEVE HIM YOU HAVE TO HEAR HIM OUT IF YOU LOVE HIM WHY DONT YOU TRUST HIM WHY WOULD YOU THINK HE'D CHEAT ON YOU, YOUR DISLOYALTY HAS RUINED HIS LIFE"_
In story 3 NTA, she insulted him on his strength and he told her to overpower him, she agreed, then failed. NTA and not domestic abuse. There is a reason why my dad always tells me to go with my mom on shopping runs when he can’t.
S3 alternate ending: so instead of showing my girlfriend the differences between the strength of the average man and a fit and strong woman, we slept on our bed after cuddling. (The next day) my girlfriend didnt come home tonight and it has me a little worried but this is normal behavior from her. (The following day) I woke up this morning and my girlfriend still isnt back and im really worried, I decided to take a shower as worrying is a waste of time considering my girlfriend can take care of herself. After the shower I noticed I got a message on my phone from the hospital, my girlfriend was assaulted last night. Now I cant stop thinking I could have prevented this.
Comments: Bro why are you letting your girlfriend walk around alone at night?
Comments: Youre a real piece of shit for not sitting your girlfriend down and talking with her more seriously about how strong women are still not as strong as the average man physically.
You think she would have listened? I've seen boss B's in pubs literally test this theory with aggression and when men are drunk and the women are provoking and humiliating men, it ends up with a woman being harmed and a man being arrested, every damn time. The funny thing is, I saw it once with a woman provoking a guy over and over and over and he pushed her with such force, when she got up, she shut up. She just taught her boyfriend the way to get her to stop provoking him is to assault her. I consider them asking for it when they act this way. Women are lucky the majority of men in most situations show immense restraint.
Isn't it funny how she was going to be right no matter the scenario?
She's strong and defend herself against a man = she's right.
She's strong and defends herself against the boyfriend = she's right.
She's weak and cries when boyfriend proves her wrong = she's a victim of abuse and now she's right to cry and break up with him.
She's weak and gets assaulted by strange men on the street = she's a victim of assault and is right to have people feel sorry for her and cater to her.
There's simply no scenario in which she just learns her lesson and stops being dilutional.
Story 1 OP should offer her ex primary custody for their children for the next year at least so he can rebuild the relationship with his kids that was alienated. Kinda sick of her talking about how traumatic this was for her and how depressed she is when she's not the one who spent 14 months alienated from everyone she ever loved based on incredibly flimsy bullshit.
Best bet is to learn quantum physics and learn how to make a time machine.
You've completely and utterly destroyed your marriage because you reacted too quickly and got your brother involved. Betrayal on that scale destroys love absolutely. You still love him, he no longer loves you.
Wish for a time machine.
How it assault if the wrestling match if there was consent between the two before the match. The guy just wrestled her down to show a average guy is normally stronger than most women and if he was nervous with the people outside she had to show reality in a safe way before someone else did.
3rd story ~ It wasn't an assault. SHE AGREED TO IT!!! Wamen like that need a dose of reality.
Damn, they gaslit the fuck out of that man in the last story.
It's reddit so...
story 3 you gave your girlfriend a very necessary reality check. There's confidence then there's arrogance then there's delusion she was hovering somewhere between arrogance and delusion. She needed that, else she would of honestly gotten herself hurt or worse in the future.
S2: OP's daughter started a family tradition
edit: bro what💀??!?!???! Ince$t all of a sudeen💀💀
Yep... I was going to make a comment about that. The second story: OP's daughter was raped by her uncle who happens to be OP's younger brother, then instead of standing behind his daughter who was a victim, he probably forced her hand to keep the pregnancy and then forced her to give him the rape baby. OP isn't just Ellie's adoptive father, he's Sarah's prison warden... not to mention the fact that he's both grandfather and uncle to Ellie.
@@TiffWafflesuh you do realize that it wasn't a rape right that was especially told to us
Aka you made that up and have zero proof @TiffWaffles
Story 3: get away from this woman as fast as you can. She’s 25, gets mad over someone being worried about her walking alone in the middle of the night in a sketchy neighborhood (she’s dense asf), and then when he proved his point, she made hun sleep on the couch. She wasn’t crying because she was scared, she knew she was safe, she cried because she was mad and humiliated that she was wrong and didn’t hold her own. This is in no way abuse.
An apology doesn't magically fix anything, idk why people these days are always asking for them. There are things you can do to people were an apology doesn't even come close to make amends for it.
The worst part about this is that now he's tainted with the allegations and no matter how much evidence or confessions you get saying otherwise there will always be those who think that he actually did it.
3rd Story; She won't feel safe walking alone at night anymore?
GOOD.
S3: leave it to reddit to call a man abusive for proving a point to an egotistical female.
I'm a strong woman. I have actually wrestled with scrawny men and won a few times out if sheer strength. HOWEVER....my brother? I could never hope to beat him or any man my size or bigger. He and my dad did their best to make sure I could defend myself. But they still always reminded me that it's the hope I fight enough they'll give up. Not the hope I will actually get away. Feminists hate me and argue with me constantly. None of them have ever actually had a man use their full strength against them so they just assume they're strong enough.
No you're not. Not at all. Idc if you're 6'3. A 5'8 man will still be stronger than you.
OP embarrassed her and she couldnt handle it. No domestic abuse happened whatsoever
Exactly. My daughter learned from me how to fight, she was older and taller when my younger son hit puberty and the strength differential massively made up for his lack of technique and sloppiness. To top it off, my daughters changing physique too made it very difficult to deal with the intensity of a sibling with sibling frustrations and hasn't yet reached the older age of puberty where he fully comprehends how it is fair that he is expected to hold back. It always amazes me how genuinely strong women amongst other women, do not have the feminist delusion and through experience can dispel it to them but they don't listen.
This isn't a series of unfortunate events its a series of choices in not believing her husband destroying his life and family over a lie
Story 3: You didn't shatter her confidence, you shattered her delusion. 97% of average men will be physically more powerful than most women and this girl boss 120lb woman beating up six guys narrative is extremely dangerous. When I was 13, I took down a female martial arts instructor who was an adult. Being trained is one thing, being male and having literally evolved for competition, strength and aggression, there's no contest. It is exceptionally dangerous for woman to walk about thinking they can deal with any men they come across. I taught my daughter to fight, I also had her instruct her younger brother. She is tall, when my son turned 12, puberty took over and even with a five inch height advantage, the gap in strength was noticeable, my daughter is under no illusion.
The uncle in story 2 being treated like he's the evil one is baffling, THEY WERE THE SAME AGE! 8 months apart is even a regular thing to see among classmates in the same grade at school.
Redditor: "H-HOW COULD HE DO THAT WITH HIS OWN NIECE?!?"
Same way and reasons the niece did it to her own uncle; it wasn't some creep adult uncle grooming his underaged niece, it was two related teenagers around 15~16 years of age thinking with their hormones instead of their underdeveloped brains and going Sweet Home Alabama with each other multiple times. You can't even say "well he didn't reach out to his kid so he's bad" when the niece was keeping the same secret and even cutting her own daughter out of photos because her existence made her feel sad, they just both seem just as bad but redditors think males have to pay the male tax in their minds.
Your brother should be charged for assault.
I love how calming the voice is - juxtaposed by the outrageous story! 😂
It's so sad
Story 2: wow, Sarah was just an AH all along. And here we were feeling bad thinking she had be assaulted.
Haha the husband gets physically attacked in his own home (as I understand), police comes and tells him to pack his bag. This is hilarious. xD
That first marriage is over. I'm not gonna lie if i saw my mans pic on a dating profile, and he said it wasn't him. I wouldn't believe him either. Buuut, i dont do all that other drama. But i would've set the record straight afterward. Also, unless he put his hands on me, I see no need for violence.
Yeah if she would have did what you probably would have done he probably would have accepted her back
@@A-TALKING-TOASTERjust separating and not slandering him they would be fine… out of some money but fine, i am sure he would have understood that
I ruined my innocent ex husbands life and my brother assaulted him. How can I minimize what happened and gaslight him into taking me back?
Boyfriend absolutely did not assault her and he should not feel guilty at all. He did her a big favor.
See, that's my problem with these things... the cops always tell the man to leave for a while, never the woman. The man can have evidence she attacked him, and the cops still tell the man to leave for a bit
Story 3)
She was talking an awful lot of shit for someone that couldn't even defend herself from a "5'9 weakling" like OP 😀
Lol so instead of speaking to him and asking him to explain himself, she gets everyone involved, even gets her brother to attack him - and now she thinks he'll take her back. He did well to get away from that family of psychos.
Story 1: The only innocent person in this story is the father and his kids. My only advice is to not taint the kids with any lies about infidelity. Tell them the truth so they know the damage you did as well as the damage your family did. They deserve to know that at least so they know why you should take the time to gather all the facts before you make an assumption. As for op herself, I suggest getting a tattoo on the wrist of her ex's name so every time she is about to make a clear decision she should look at that tattoo then ask herself if it is the right decision. As for the neighbors who callously ruined your ex's life, make it your business to ruin their lives utterly just as they ruined your ex. The lawyers may have some good ideas on that as clearly this could be the beginnings of a defamation suit that will follow them to the grave.
Story 2, so their daughter was pregnant, when they ask her who the father was and she said no they just accepted it? WTF (you should be telling her that you will beat the shit out of her and throw her out if she doesnt answer the question)?
Ellie also doesnt seem to see anything wrong with having a baby at 15 in that house and the consequences of that action havent been beaten into her head. Complain all you want about not beating kids but its important for your kids to be beaten regularly so that they fear being beaten because they are not mature enough to understand other consequences like how it will affect any future marriage opportunities or the money it takes to raise a kid.
Its no wonder kids are having kids in that family, you cant let kids be dictating how they live their lives when they are under your roof and you need to use the whip from time to time.
Ethan isnt a danger to his own daughter, the fact that Sarah and Ellie had kids under his watch shows that his parenting is what he should really be worried about. OP is just upset with him for this which is understandable but its better for Ellie in the long run to not be banned from seeing her real father and its partialy his fault for not laying down the law with his kids (some kids will still misbehave but it reduces the chances of such happening). For her to reach out shows that she wants some sort of relationship even if he denied her initially but given the situation its understandable why he would.
Sarah and Ethan were wrong but they were just horny kids, had OP been more iron fisted he would have known who the father is earlier, Sarah might not have become a baby mama and some better arrangement could have been done. Maybe Ellie wouldnt even be about to be a single mum
Story 1: I'm glad he got rid of her, the fact she didn't give him a chance to defend himself and tge fact he got assaulted by her brother is the nail in the coffin
Bro got falsely accused assaulted thrown out of his own house got his relationship with people ruined
No way he is getting back
Last story was hilarious. She needed a reality check.