Next Level Firewood | The VEPAK Firewood Packaging Machine

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  • @johnrosier1686
    @johnrosier1686 Рік тому +4

    This is taking bundles to a mass production level. Kyle isn’t playing around out there. Thanks for video and showing us how this is done.

  • @garykersteiner4936
    @garykersteiner4936 2 місяці тому

    When there is a need, the engineers will build it. What a machine.

  • @toddpacheco4748
    @toddpacheco4748 Рік тому +1

    Joe looks like 👍 you have another great friend in Kyle 😮😊❤

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      Kyle is a super nice person. He cares, he is not focused on himself, and he wants to do good for the world. I wish there were more people like him

  • @FrankieG421
    @FrankieG421 Рік тому +1

    No wonder Kyle smiles constantly… He’s banging out $2M a year (probably more) in bagged firewood x 2 machines!
    You did the math at $5 a bundle let’s be realistic he’s probably getting $8.99-9.99 wholesale and the retailers are selling for $14.99+. INCREDIBLE JOB KYLE… Congrats!
    and Great Piece Joe!!

  • @billobermeyer660
    @billobermeyer660 Рік тому +4

    Joe, thanks so much for sharing the close up video of this marvelous machine!! With Kyle having done his research and one year under his belt, it won't take him very long to have those machines paid for. He has established a unique situation and has positioned himself for a long successful run in the firewood business. Kudos to Kyle and take some time to catch your breath Joe!

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood Рік тому +2

      The universe works in mysterious ways. I truly am blessed.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +2

      Nice post bill! You are always a gentleman! Please stay in touch buddy.

  • @phredziphell8242
    @phredziphell8242 7 місяців тому +1

    I would not hesitate to buy this over a Ferrari hahaha.... engineering brilliance. Feed this directly by a Japa 405 with a lean work force and scale up as necessary. Many thanks Joe for your interview and presentation!

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood 5 місяців тому

      I look at it like I have two red Ferraris ✌🇺🇸😎

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood 5 місяців тому

      I have a new processor plumbed in, look for some new videos coming soon!

  • @hondacrm306
    @hondacrm306 Рік тому +2

    First time looking at a mechanised bundler. A nice piece of kit...... Big investment for a business to make👏👏

  • @elainereid5833
    @elainereid5833 Рік тому +3

    Nice thorough explanation on how the Vepak runs. I saw it briefly on a video from the PB show, now I can better see the workings and engineering aspects. Elaine from the northern end of the Rockies here, wishing Kyle all the very best in his grand vision and ventures. Great video Joe, have a great week.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +1

      Thanks so much Elaine this was a lot of fun to film

  • @crazyman3157
    @crazyman3157 Рік тому +1

    Joe, you got my gears turning as did Kyle, throw a Japa 405 with the Perfect Split and have the conveyor feeding the loading bin of the Vepak and the bags would be flowing. Almost Non stop production and one heck of setup for production. Steps in the process as it makes business sense and can be justified in the budget. 👍🏻

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood Рік тому

      Gears turning are good! Link up with me if you have any questions or just want to talk firewood:)

  • @OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm
    @OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm Рік тому +1

    This is a very impressive setup! Thanks for taking us along for this demo. Take care Joe, safe travels!

  • @outdoorswithlarryrobin
    @outdoorswithlarryrobin Рік тому +1

    Hello Joe, That Machine is just to cool! 🪵👍🏼🇺🇸

  • @otiselevator7738
    @otiselevator7738 10 місяців тому +1

    A true tin-plated streamlined wonder! 👍⚙️🚂🔥⚡️

  • @DavidMott-g7y
    @DavidMott-g7y Рік тому

    What I see is the begining of the answer to stacking firewood. Somehow this process needs to be mobile so that it stacks as it goes. Employee of the day, thatsa me!

  • @hanstorehaugland2331
    @hanstorehaugland2331 Рік тому +1

    Joe, very nice presentation of the Vepack maschine. Good job! You are doing a fine job beeing a firewood equiment consultan😊
    I had a nice call from Ole yesterday about your first video. I must say you are a good teamplayer. Love all your videos.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      thanks for the nice post. Please tell Ole I said hello!

  • @MrHelidude
    @MrHelidude Рік тому +1

    Such a nice video.
    Greetings to KYLE from Tasmania, Australia

  • @WoodysRTBFirewood
    @WoodysRTBFirewood Рік тому +1

    Hello Joe, if I were a betting man I’d have to say that you are about to transition to bags and 12” firewood. Not sure what the veepack is worth but I’m confident that you’ve been crushing numbers.
    Cheers Woody !!!!

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +1

      Well, I'm not quite in a position to do something like this just now. Someday maybe!

  • @davidchester429
    @davidchester429 Рік тому

    This is the great thing about UA-cam and meeting other sellers. So you know how much Kyle pays for his bags now, you have options. You can renegotiate with your suppliers, or cooperate with other guys to buy in scale

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      Interesting insight but, no, i dont know what he pays for bags, nor do i know what his wholesale price is. He would have prob told me but i find it none of my business

  • @lanceharsh7025
    @lanceharsh7025 Рік тому +1

    Awesome looking machine I truly wish kyle well. Thanks for showing this labor saver. 🤠👍👍👍👍

  • @BacktoBob1
    @BacktoBob1 Рік тому +1

    That is really fun to watch. Thanks for sharing this Joe!

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 Рік тому

    I can see someone taking over the business in a large area with this machine and a Eaton processor

  • @ishure8849
    @ishure8849 Рік тому +1

    G'day Joe and Kyle, Now that I've had a closer look at the bagging I can see those locating sleeves would allow any wood splintered or not into the bag 👍.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching Ish. Is there a big packaged firewood market in Australia?

    • @ishure8849
      @ishure8849 Рік тому

      I would have to say that it is growing due to fewer people relying on wood as the sole means of cooking and heating more are camping and having a fire on the weekends, a tightening of regulations relating to firewood collection younger people who have lost that connection with wood collection are also considerations to be taken onboard. Service stations big box stores and wood merchants make up the majority of sales 👍.

  • @Growing-Our-Retirement
    @Growing-Our-Retirement Рік тому

    Very interesting! Might be worth a closer look. We could take bundles into the urban areas and make a bundle. See what I did there. Thanks for showing us something new Joe.

  • @LeBlancfirewood
    @LeBlancfirewood Рік тому

    Saw it run at paul Bunyan. Excellent job showing this machine

  • @richardbrowne1679
    @richardbrowne1679 Рік тому

    Good Morning Joe: That is some machine.

  • @frontyardfirewood
    @frontyardfirewood Рік тому

    What they gonna invent next?? Awesome. Justso cool
    This is a box wedge guys deam right here.

  • @donmcgimpsey1706
    @donmcgimpsey1706 Рік тому

    Hi Joe, great video, I have seen the Veepak on some other European firewood channels, I was hoping to see it somewhere here. I know by now I have seen all your videos, way back to the muck farm - and I am more attracted to your videos than I am interested in firewood. It's funny to see how firewood youtubers seem to come together - and in fact, on one day about a week ago - both yourself and Chris (In the Woodyard) each mentioned each other by pure coincidence. I have seen Shreib on your channel and I watch his channel as well. One day - his wood stack tipped over for the second time - so I told him to reach out to OWB for advice ... I told him you stack your wood using a level. Lastly, I am not one to tell people how to run their business, so I will give you a tip, which you can do with as you please - check out Oak Tree Farms (a British channel) and watch a couple of videos... I am sure you will see a few free tips maybe you can use. I won't tell you what to do - but I see growth in your future, and maybe a permanent shelter or equivalent.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +1

      thanks for the nice post Don. you are a very nice person! I do plan on getting a roof over the Japa but it will take some more planning on my end with the appropriate size and $$. Please keep commenting. I enjoy reading them

  • @blokerama
    @blokerama 8 місяців тому

    Not sure if this has been asked - does the machine 'know' if a piece is under-length or over-length? I suppose they just end up in that hopper area, and keep getting returned there?

  • @erik5474
    @erik5474 6 місяців тому +1

    VEPAK form norway😁

  • @donmcgimpsey1706
    @donmcgimpsey1706 Рік тому +7

    Hi Joe, thanks for the great comments, it is nice you spend such time with your viewers. For this I am going to post another poem crafted by AI:
    Bag This!
    In the heart of the forest, where timbers lay,
    Stands a machine, a marvel by day,
    A Vepak firewood bagger, proud and fine,
    With a pneumatic system, a design divine.
    In a dance of air, it hums and sways,
    Spiraling logs in a seamless ballet,
    Gone are the days of labor intense,
    This mechanical wonder makes all the difference.
    It's a symphony of efficiency, smooth and keen,
    Turning chaos into order, so serene,
    One person now can do the work of five,
    With this machine, productivity comes alive.
    Each log is cradled, then gently bagged,
    No strain, no struggle, spirits unflagged,
    Time is saved, and efforts halved,
    In its pneumatic embrace, wood is carefully staged.
    From dawn till dusk, it tirelessly toils,
    Transforming wood into lucrative spoils,
    In the forest's heart, it stands alone,
    A testament to innovation, skillfully shown.
    So here's to the Vepak, a true friend in need,
    A champion of work, in speed and deed,
    In the world of firewood, it's a shining star,
    A pneumatic marvel, unsurpassed by far.

  • @Riverguide33
    @Riverguide33 Рік тому +1

    Nice vid, Joe. Hope you didn’t freeze with that light jacket! 👍

  • @nicholascooper1193
    @nicholascooper1193 Рік тому

    I had a customer ask me (industrial automation) to quote a machine similar/same as the Vepak bagger.
    After pricing the Vepak, it is a good value. They were about $150k at the time.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      I think the price is cheaper now Nick. Thanks for the comment buddy

    • @nickfixes
      @nickfixes Рік тому

      @@ohiowoodburner Even better, I would imagine importing several at once would help pricing. My customer had 5-8 employees bagging by hand with manual tilt barrel baggers, trying to keep up with grocery store/convenience store demand.

  • @jakemelgar7591
    @jakemelgar7591 Рік тому

    That is an amazing machine!!! Joe did they change the maximum size from 15-16 inches? When I contacted the company they explained the max size was 15 inches and were working on “ the American standard of 16”.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +1

      that is my understanding too Jake. 16" is in the works

    • @jakemelgar7591
      @jakemelgar7591 Рік тому

      @@ohiowoodburner This machine just may make the bundle wood industry extremely competitive!

  • @rodneysweetnam8653
    @rodneysweetnam8653 Рік тому +1

    Hi Joe & Kyle - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. Interesting Scandinavian technology on show. Power suppy over here is all 220-240 volt on single phase but I thought in the US of A it is 115 volt. I couldn't figure out how the bags are sealed, which could be a bottleneck in the process. I wonder why the machine doesn't have an integral stitcher to automatically close the bag at the end of each cycle.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      These bags have a draw string on them. They just cinch them and tie. He is working on new bags with his logo

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood Рік тому

      They make bags with a drawl push button slide. My next set of bags will have those and my graphics on it, so no tying necessary. I would rather have the machine operator bagging, then sewing bags closed all day.. Also, there is a box chamber for when you want to do boxes. Hello in Ireland Big Rodders!

  • @woodtimesinthe207
    @woodtimesinthe207 Рік тому

    Great video Joe! Thank you!

  • @fricknjeep
    @fricknjeep Рік тому

    hi there nice show john

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching John. When you buy one of these let me know. I will stop by and watch!

    • @fricknjeep
      @fricknjeep Рік тому

      you know me i might make one but i am to cheep to buy one john @@ohiowoodburner

  • @robertlivingstone3947
    @robertlivingstone3947 Рік тому

    great video joe you dont need one

  • @joeshaffer2506
    @joeshaffer2506 Рік тому

    Nice to see you out checking out new bundler that would be awesome if your a dealer with multiple accounts what’s the cost on one LOVE SEEING build here

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      Thanks Joe. I am not sure on the price. Contact Kyle and I'm sure he can speak to you about it

  • @Retiredoutdooroldguy
    @Retiredoutdooroldguy Рік тому

    Finally able to leave comments. Nice video. Wondered if uou solved your dump trailer dilemma? Did you try drilling a hole thru the doors and put in a hitch pin with a hair pin clip? Just an idea. Love watching you. Just an old outdoor firewood guy Earl

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      Thanks Earl! Glad to have you on board. I started stacking the wood across the back doors so there is no wood pressing against them. I am much more relaxed going down the road now!

  • @jbbrown7907
    @jbbrown7907 Рік тому +2

    Even Joe can run this machine.

  • @HOMELESSAREPEOPLE
    @HOMELESSAREPEOPLE Рік тому

    Hey, did Bob from Metsa Machines go over to Wolfridge ? Thank you

  • @foxlake6750
    @foxlake6750 Рік тому +1

    Joe, when are you getting yours ?

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      Haha no time soon. I am not in a position to run one of these yet

  • @edrurup8955
    @edrurup8955 Рік тому

    Will there be a video of how the logs are processed into the 12” pieces of firewood?

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      Sorry I didn't film the processor running. His team was on break during the filming of this

  • @Zeke-yv3nw
    @Zeke-yv3nw Рік тому

    Thats pretty awesome. Just think, he is preventing wildfires by turning standing dead trees into firewood!

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      I agree. He is doing a great job for a lot of people

  • @garylaszewski7380
    @garylaszewski7380 Рік тому

    Kyle,
    In the this video, Joe? indicated you were going to ship firewood nationally.
    Therefore, I would assume a "kiln" is necessary. A good kiln is ~$140k to $250k. The "Mini Quick" kiln is quite possibly the best for the price you can buy.
    A chinese 40 foot shipping container "refrigerated/insulated" converted to a kiln with a burner is ~$40k to $50k.
    You would need several of these to process 1000 semis of logs that are coming.
    If the wood is already dry, then maybe a couple of hours at 210° would kill any bugs or mold.
    If you try to dry green wet firewood, you are looking at 4-5 days!
    Kiln processing will become the "bottleneck" for you!
    Its technical and tedious, and needs to be babysitted a lot.
    I think it would be better "not" to ship it nationally!
    What is your opinion on this?

  • @daveklein2826
    @daveklein2826 Рік тому

    Sweet machine

  • @TheFirewoodHut
    @TheFirewoodHut Рік тому +1

    With Kyle being an importer for Vepak; isn't he creating possible competition for his MK High Country business?

  • @dapymp17
    @dapymp17 Рік тому

    How much does it cost to rail hickory from Texas to the top of the country??? Or is it shipped in trucks?? Really want to know please

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      No clue. I hope Kyle can give some upper and lower margins

    • @robertjhilliard2403
      @robertjhilliard2403 Місяць тому

      @@ohiowoodburner use to be bout 2400 in old days for boxcar bout 3 semis

  • @HortonHill
    @HortonHill Рік тому

    Amazing!

  • @traviswood7952
    @traviswood7952 Рік тому +2

    How much does this machine roughly cost?

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood Рік тому

      Very reasonably priced at $135,000

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood Рік тому

      Typo$130,000 WOW!

    • @traviswood7952
      @traviswood7952 Рік тому +1

      ⁠@@MKHighCountryFirewoodreally not a bad price. With our pricing for bags and output. At 120 bags an hr as it says can do. The operator will have only about 200 hours on the machine to pay off

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood Рік тому

      @@traviswood7952 those numbers are based on a 1.5 ft.³ bag. I do .75 so I get double that a minute.

  • @dalehammonds9494
    @dalehammonds9494 Рік тому

    It looks fun to run

  • @carlmills5956
    @carlmills5956 Рік тому +1

    I would like to see a one year follow up video

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +1

      i think that would be cool. I'd love to go back if the would have me

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood Рік тому

      @@ohiowoodburner You’re welcome anytime!! Privileged to be a part of this with you. Truly living the dream

  • @garylaszewski7380
    @garylaszewski7380 Рік тому

    Joe,
    Your videos are exceptional, including this one.
    The VEPAK machine appears to be strictly a big leagues only operation.
    We are way beyond the "$875 Amish bundling machine" here!
    It is hard for me to imagine "how few" of the average bundling people could afford/justify buying this machine ($130k+ ?). Its not that much for the machine...but everything else you will need to buy.
    Additionally, you must have a heated building for this machine. (~$60k).
    The VEPAK wouldnt tolerate snow or freezing rain on it.
    At the speed it pumps out bundles, you would need an abundance of smaller, dry split wood for its hopper.
    And, maybe a kiln ($50k for a "do it yourself" unit, or $250k for a Mini Quick professional grade unit.
    You would also need a market to buy your bundles.
    As much as I like JAPA processors, a couple of 405's or 435's would be needed. (~$200k to ~$250k).
    JAPA's dont have heated/cooled cabs! I couldnt imagine working outside in -20 ° farenheit windy winter weather with no cab. (unless it was inside a building using electricity to run the processors).
    We are talking about another building to house the processors.
    The logistics are mind boggling.
    If I have misread whats going on here, please correct me.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      very good analysis Gary. I would suspect that when an operation is ready to buy a VEPAK that most of the assets you list above would already be in place. Kyle did use this machine outdoors for the first year. I'm not sure what hardships that created w the weather. The Japas do come with electric power so they too could be moved indoors but I agree a cab is necessary

    • @garylaszewski7380
      @garylaszewski7380 Рік тому

      The only thing I observed, is that if you are short (like Kyle), you dont have to bend over too much to take off the bags filled with wood.
      If you are a tall person, your back would "kill you" after bending and stooping all day, working on the VEPAK machine.
      If the machine could be "raised up" a few feet, where you could keep your back straight, it would be better.
      VEPAK should add a button allowing the operator to raise up or down the entire machine to a comfortable working height.

  • @haroldanderson2781
    @haroldanderson2781 Рік тому

    I hope you took some measurements for metsa machine to copycat/ build one of their own. Maybe they could send you one to do trial runs.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +1

      haha. There seems to be a lot of copycatting out there...everything looks alike these days

  • @Adirondack_DFL
    @Adirondack_DFL Рік тому

    Keeping the air supply dry looks like it may be a concern in NY, I'm sure the air is dryer in the high plains. Water in the air would be a disaster in freezing weather. Good compressor system should address the moisture problems.

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood Рік тому +1

      You want to release any residual water out of the line after operating w air pressure. Good observation.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the comment DLF

    • @mikegerber5370
      @mikegerber5370 Рік тому +2

      Not an issue at all in Ontario here. It does have a moisture trap on it

  • @JohnFrytag
    @JohnFrytag Рік тому

    Great vid….I aint even in the firewood business. (Well except on the Resturant customer side). And I found this interesting. Have a great day!

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching John. There are business implications for all our markets discussed in this vid for sure!

  • @ThomasJones-u2g
    @ThomasJones-u2g 2 місяці тому

    you could let your conv, as you spilt the wood go into the bagger this way you woukd not need a loader

  • @devinmoran59
    @devinmoran59 9 місяців тому

    How much

  • @thecraportheoreos7834
    @thecraportheoreos7834 Рік тому

    Hey 👋 Joe

  • @geezerindawoods
    @geezerindawoods Рік тому

    Wondering how many boilers I would need to run to justify a Vepak? 🤠

  • @bwillan
    @bwillan Рік тому +2

    Interesting that he went from a piece work wage model to an hourly model. The piece work wage model certainly leaves the amount of money someone makes entirely in the hands of the worker. From the business owner perspective, I can see that the hourly is better as it becomes a fixed known cost.

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      I think that is a byproduct of the machine being consistent and predictable. Certainly gets your employee's feet off the banana peel

    • @TheTorkerman
      @TheTorkerman Рік тому

      I love this machine, as a one person operation, if you get a customer phone call, need a toilet break, get a delivery etc, just walk away, the machine stops itself. Nice!

  • @buckinfirewood
    @buckinfirewood Рік тому

    How many bags do you need to sell to make this machine worth having say at 5 bucks per .75?

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      Certainly a variable number but I believe Kyle feels his is already paid for after one year

    • @buckinfirewood
      @buckinfirewood Рік тому

      @@ohiowoodburner I'm sure it didn't take long after factoring the cost of labor.. 130 bundles compared to 30 per hr is a huge savings.

  • @barryrountree5517
    @barryrountree5517 Рік тому

    How much does a machine like that cost?

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      More than a chainsaw but less than a huge processor. LOL. Contact Kyle for updated pricing.

    • @JohnWinsemius
      @JohnWinsemius Рік тому

      does yle have a youtube channel ....... Found him on facebook but i don't do face book@@ohiowoodburner

  • @TheWildWestMill
    @TheWildWestMill 5 місяців тому

    If you had to replace all that white Teflon in that machine would be unbelievably expensive

    • @MKHighCountryFirewood
      @MKHighCountryFirewood 5 місяців тому

      If you ever had to replace any of the material that means that you have run through a few million packages.

  • @nickc7320
    @nickc7320 Рік тому

    My dream would be to get a kiln and this bagger. Be a supplier to home depot or Lowe's

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому

      That is a definite way to make good money Nick

    • @Metromulchers
      @Metromulchers Рік тому

      Only if you like waiting a long time to get paid. Better to look at smaller venues.

  • @stevepatrick8606
    @stevepatrick8606 Рік тому

    Now if they just made a machine that would stack your F-150 and stack at your customer's location!

  • @DanielAtkinsFirewood
    @DanielAtkinsFirewood Рік тому

    Honorary Employee of the Month sticker?? 🤣🤣 guess when it's your time to see me, i get a sticker too and not a shirt 🤣🤣

    • @ohiowoodburner
      @ohiowoodburner  Рік тому +1

      You really have to go beyond and above to be considered Dan!!!!!

  • @Earthau
    @Earthau Рік тому

    WOW, engineers, what can't they make a machine do?

  • @TravisDoesFirewood
    @TravisDoesFirewood Рік тому

    He sounds like that Grease Monkey guy on YT.

  • @jimalspach8528
    @jimalspach8528 Рік тому

    Don't even need a chainsaw!