Another thing to mention would be to stay in your lane and not cross double yellows, especially around blind corners. Also for newer drivers, don't be afraid to ask questions, you always want to be open to improving your driving ability. Another good thing to study is proper driving techniques (rev match, heal/toe, trail braking, weight transfer, seat positioning, & hand placement on your steering wheel). For most of these tehchniques, its better to practice on an open road before hitting your local back road/touge. Other than that, pretty solid advice!
The way I learned basic driving techniques (well first I would choose a sim if possible) was driving in large empty parking lots. If you have a lake near you, the parking lot for the boat ramp is usually ideal. Plenty of room to heel/toe, weight transfer, catching slides
Anyone serious about driving stick needs to be heel-toeing ANYTIME the drive. It's a technique that's easy to learn but has an incredibly high skill ceiling and you only get better the more you do it. I've been driving stick for nearly 20 years, and I still work on nailing that PERFECT heel toe on every drive.
The chassis that really stands out for the touge is a Honda Fit, no joke Honda fits are the fastest cars on my local roads (excluding NA Miata’s). I think the biggest when looking for a car is weight, not type of car.
They are okay. Just shy of Miatas. Many much more capable cars out there though. The thing with the Fit is it has decent handling that is easy to exploit and they are not set up to snap or really oversteer at all. So they can be taken to 100% of their limit which makes them fun and surprisingly fast.
* snap oversteer is NOT a thing * I have to say this cuz "snap oversteer" is USUALLY used in a incorrect way. ppl usually use that term as a "scare" tactic. ( and its usually only put on the mr2 platform and it gives the platform a bad omen ) its exactly what you said earlier.. "driver mod". snap over steer happens because of "driver" error and not platform issues. you can " snap " oversteer in ANY platform. go into a corner incorrectly and let off the throttle / give it too much throttle at the wrong time and when the car unloads and loads back up quickly and "snaps" in the opposite direction , THATS snap oversteer. My touge car is a 01 2zz mr2 spyder. they dont just "snap". they only do things YOU make them do. they are machines. they dont have a mind of their own. with that being said , great video !
My main peice of advice would be dont push it when your angry. Every car ive binned was driving angry, in some way i was being self destructive but it always kept me in a bad mood driving agressive and even more so if you crash. Driving a mild pace is actually soothing and you end up feeling alot better afterwards. Mods note: start with decent tyres and brake pads and then turn to suspension. Cooking your brake down hill is a scary experiences and can end your night early. Tyres are the only thing connecting you to the road ( i rate bridgstone potenza for budget ). Suspension will give you more controll over the car, i usually go for a chunky sway bar and mid range dampening on the coilovers. After that i would go for a seat and maybe a steering wheel if you want and some good quality strut braces. At that point you have yourself a good set up to go have fun, be safe, hone your skill and start beating some proper fast cars like the the legendary GTR😂
I bought my prelude for this very reason out of all the fwd Hondas the prelude has the best suspension set up in my opinion not including integras I’ve driven modified civics and stock ones on the touge but the prelude in its stock form just does it better I’ve never felt so on rails in a fwd car coming through the corners it just does everything I want it to and more
Really enjoyed this video. I think it's important to mention to bring safety equipment such as tire repair and fire estinguisher, do not want to start a forest fire. Also checking for potholes and overhanging trees on google maps. Logs and branches can fall making those roads really risky, especially with slippery tree sap!
I got a lot of miles on bikes in canyons, a pair of tyres every 6 weeks although i switched to dirt a while ago. You pretty much covered everything. Oh, if you see a group of bike behind you, just let them pass.
Thanks for this video. It was my birthday yesterday and I was having fun driving but couldnt do any of this. Also thanks for sending me the autobody recommendation. That place is great.
I dont have a licence yet, but I bought an e90 and I live on the countyside of Germany with a lot of curvy roads so this is gonna be very usefull advice 🫶🏻
The only vehicle I have is my 1997 Silverado pickup, at 5000 pounds I know it’s not ideal for togue but it’s what I have and I have fun with it safely within my limits but I’m curious, what is all yours opinions in vehicles like mine that aren’t ideal in the slightest for togue? I’m kinda new to this stuff so i want to see what the community thinks on matters such as this.
If I were you I'd just stick to freeway racing. I personally would never call someone with a hellcat (boat) a chicken for not wanting to race on togue. The lighter cars ABSOLUTLEY have the advatage when it comes to twisty roads.
My brother in law got a 12v Cummings with the manual transmission. He had it loaded with tools and an aluminum cap. When he got it tuned he tossed me the key and we took it down the back roads and said beat it up . I drove a couple miles he said pull over , he jumped in the seat and scared the shit out of me , that thing handled and pulled like a freight train. We both always had hooked up cars built for the back roads but that truck was impressive
TIP: Don’t blast music to the point where you can’t hear your engine or tires!!!! If you’re gonna be driving like this, you wanna be able to hear your car! if your tires are losing grip, or if something is going wrong with your motor, suspension, ect. Stay safe 🙏🏽
My number 1 tip for driving touge, and thats coming from a German who regularly drives in the Eifel area (that's where the Nürburgring is, there's tons of twisty mountain roads there) is that you should build experience and very importantly don't always drive in groups. Drive alone from time to time to get to know your current limits and to get into your own groove on that road. Like in Initial D, Takumi built up all that experience and got that fast because he was driving alone constantly and it makes sense. There's much less distractions and nobody is setting the tempo for you. Another tip is to not always listen to music. I get that it's fun to listen to something in the background, but having it off means you get to hear all sounds your car makes on the street so you can notice tire squeaking and even bad engine noises much sooner and even get to know the sounds your car makes usually. Drive safe and have fun!
Another tip: Radar detector. Helped me out so many times when doing spirited driving. Not all cops are outfitted with radars or have them on all the time. But getting a detector gives you the ability to see which car has them on and where they are. Investing in a decent quality around 200-300 will give you a bit more confidence, especially at night. Some detectors even have arrow signifiers to show you where they're coming from so you don't have to frantically look around.
Related, don't make the mistake I did and deliberately buy a used Valentine One without the K-false filter. Those stupid blind spot radars are not a luxury feature anymore, in fact Chevy SUVs are one of the most common and annoying sources of K-band falses
I don't have too much experience since I'm still young at 17, but I will say that if you plan on bringing a much heavier car to the touge, the most important thing is making sure you have good brakes and pads. I drive an '09 audi a5 3.2, and brake fade has scared me and nearly sent me off a road a few too many times. Please do not overdo it and get too excited, racing a 911 in your heavy boat through hard curves will never end up well. After my soul leaving my body and a pair of slightly pissed pants, I threw away my ego (my pants) and started driving within the limits of my car and myself.
I completely know what you mean, My vehicle is a 1997 Silverado pickup that weighs around 5000 pounds and whenever I drive my local togue I always stay within my limits, of course each time slowly pushing my limit further and further up in a safe manner, but I know full well that eventually I’ll hit a wall (metaphorically) and there simply won’t be anything else I’ll be able to do to achieve higher speed given the vehicle that I have to work with, having good brakes is essential to safely driving any heavy vehicle down the togue.
I’m in the same boat but i’m old af. Car needs to rest a lot for brakes and it’s almost impossible to breathe next to it while the brakes cool down just because of the smell
@@pearlpoint9838 driving a silverado fast must be fkin scary man ahahaha you never know when gravity will take control over your steering wheel with those things
I think you missed one really, really important thing. Do a full run down of your wearable items before you leave for the touge. Tires, brakes, nut and bolt check your tie rods, lug nuts, headlights, oil level, make sure theres nothing leaking in the engine bay, etc. You have to treat touge like motorsport. Harmonics loosen things up, brake fluid breaks down, brakes wear out, your alignment can change and cause uneven wear in your tires, a small oil/fuel leak can start a fire if your turbo starts glowing, things like that. Taking the extra bit of time not only gets you closer to the car you drive and give you more confidence, but it can save your life and others around you. You have to respect touge and everything that comes with it. Stay safe everyone and have fun
That is all very important. Another check point of that rundown is secure or remove anything from the back seat . You don't want tools , a spare tire or anything becoming a projectile if something goes haywire. I rolled a car hitting the twisties and it was a tornado of heave stuff flying around the cabin , I was lucky not a scratch on me . Main thing is it's all about having fun and being safe so you can do it again
Should do a video on how to prevent a crash. Oversteer/understeer, racing lines, brake zones, things not to do such as braking mid corner, liftoff oversteer, down shifting/rev matching, how to save yourself from over/understeer, etc etc. Number one reason I see crashes is because people lack a basic understanding of what causes them to crash.
"How to prevent a crash"; drive within the limit of your ability. All the other things you mentioned are how to drive. The cause of a crash is losing control of the vehicle because you are driving beyond the limit of your control.
The tough thing is finding a place to practice all of this first hand. Irl is a a lot different from a sim and everyone doesn’t have decent sim rig. You kinda have to take risks to get faster. Even if it’s just an inch at a time.
Any 90s hatch like a civic, golf, fiesta, 106 etc. Will be more fun than a GT-R for a touge, specially in very tight roads you just gotta make sure to keep the momentum
Great info Griffin! I've been driving the togue since I was 16. My friend who came from Hong Kong convinced me to go on a drive with him on our local pass. He drove fast and introduced me to togue racing/spirited driving. He had a 94 Accord, and me in my 96 Mazda 626. Fast forward 16 years, I'm in a 15 Corolla S (which I bought to replace my 626 lol), and still in that same town and drive that pass every day for work and drive it at some nights. Now FF cars aren't the best per se, but they still have good handling. I'd switch to sport springs and see if that works for suspension. If you want, add a sway bar next. Though for me, I need better tires because mine are some random brand that came with the used car I got lol. I would like to get an MX-5 though...hopefully(?) I agree with your disclaimers. All excellent points, particularly the first one. There's some turns which may seem easy, but are super deceptive and become tighter, so you'll need to practice it. I know there are 2 turns that still cause my blood to go cold sometimes if I go over a certain speed despite driving the togue for over 15 years. Great content man! Keep it up!
Good delivery and info. Love the message, safety first, respect the road and others, do it for the love of driving not the bragging rights. Keep up the good work brother!
With brakes, make sure to do research on heat capacity. Example: ceramic pads seem great, because they last longer, quieter, smoother - however, very prone to brake fade. Semi-metallic brake pads don't last as long, not as smooth and quiet, but brake fade comes at a higher temp. Just something to keep in mind that I WISH somebody told me
currently using a 1999 2.5 RS impreza to learn this style of driving. All I can say is this slow little thing is way more fun that my STI and feels faster in a weird way
AS A LONG TIME RACER talking going back late 90's !! don't be a jerk on the road show respect! you avoid police this way, 2nd tires and breaks matter! learn auto Mechanics to understand some things like brake fade OEM break pads catch fire 3rd never go around a slow car if they cant get away they lost no need to make things worse and drive on the wrong side of the road its done and over. last back off people that are not racing wait for them to pull to the side of the road when safe or you pull over and let time pass goes back to Respect, don't ever think you can close a road police will shut you down and you rek it for every one else LET ME BE CLEAR street take overs are for none racers Fyi stance cars under-steer and mountain roads are bumpy stock hight is recommended some times you go off road
Thoughts on the 7th gen Toyota Celica? Has a very low center of gravity and only weights about 1.100kgs with 192hp,pretty short gears and a 6 speed trans.
There really good and super underrated. Fastest car in my area is a supercharged 7th gen and it hauls ass. It scared the shit out of me in the passenger seat 😂
General edicate for pedestrian cars is how japan car culture has stayed alive for so long. They understand the importance of not drawing unnecessary attention.
You should drive the road you want to learn during the day. Drive slowly and try to learn where the road changes textures, major bumps as well as the general road geometry. Lots of things you can't see at night are really obvious in the daylight.
There is a time of year in my area where deer are in what is called "the rut" it's coming up soon and they are wild that time of year , they run across the road in packs
I'm so jealous you can find a twisty road within 20 minutes of you lmao. I need to move. For those who don't live in Cali you may need to bump that travel time to over an hour. Some places just won't have a road... make a weekend trip of it. Good luck homies
Love the video. All great advice! I will add the disclaimer that some people prefer fwd or awd and may find those more fun. Not me, but they exist. Also if you have a convertible, your first upgrade other than brake pads and fluid and making sure your tires are 5 years old or newer should be a roll bar. Safety first
I’m not a new driver but have little experience to touge or spirited driving. sadly, pushing myself out of my comfort zone and limits 3 months back resulted in losing my is300 in a canyon run with some buddies after only having it for 3 days … I’ve been watching multiple videos on do’s and don’ts because last month i got myself another is300 and this time I’m being way more cautious about how I drive and learn the road so it won’t happen again. So far, I still have the car and have been learning so much slowly but surely and most importantly, safely. Great video! Hopefully I can start capturing my moments on my channel so I can show my growth and Experience as I progress.
every single highschool in the Bay area had atleast one drag race kid that died on a mountain road in a ford mustang. I think it's important for beginners to do dumb shit like skidding around in a parking lot so that they can learn what will make their car start sliding out of control and avoid that when taking turns on actual roads. Cant tell you how many times I've been in a car that started sliding and the first thing the driver did was instinctively stomp on the brakes mid corner. Also should probably stress the importance of a manual transmission/automatic with a manual gear select option. The few close calls I've had on winding roads was when my transmission decided to downshift mid corner and caused me to lose traction. No matter the brand, you really cannot trust an automatic transmission when going downhill. Ironically, CVT transmissions are horrible in many aspects, but in my experience they are less likely to send a jolt through the drivetrain and cause you to spin out than a regular automatic.
Totally true regarding power. I was driving my 450hp track car and got passed in the twistiest section by a black NA Miata. So I picked up an NA Miata. So much fun and 86hp can be a blast!
I have a mr2/mrs and you definitely have to learn how to drive mr before trying to rip it at the canyon and as far as the snap oversteer; it's usually caused by driver error. The second gen is more prone to it I believe but a lot of the time it can be controlled if you have the experience and seat time. Good video tho, well said!
@@ninsean1 it's not a huge problem people make it out to be. When I drive my car it's not something I think about unless it's pouring rain. Also good luck and I hope you can get your dream car in the future
Great point about how outright speed isn't the most important for togue. I once had a spontaneous uphill race with a B4 Legacy in my '89 BG Familia GTX. We were right close the whole time until we got to a straighter section and he finally gapped me. It wasn't the longest race but we were both going hard and it is still one of the most intense races of my life lol
Another Tip I would say is to learn from others. If you know someone who is faster than you or has more experience maybe you could sit with them in their vehicle and watch what they do
Great video, seriously. I've been doing Touge since 1999. I am so glad it is still alive and has become very niche and not trendy or overly popular as it became 2001-2005 and then died off (thanks Fast and Furious) Now a days it's so, so rare to find people who understand, respect, and enjoy Touge. I am constantly looking back each year at how long I've been doing it. I've had a road in Reno, NV called Geiger Grade that I've been driving and riding since 2011 to present day... love it. My home is basically on the road as well. Also to note I worked my way up from lower hp and lighter vehicles to higher hp vehicles that are heavier and man it's been a long, long journey but I have loved it.
Great video! Absolutely for sure never ever be letting your ego drive your car. My first time ever going on a touge run, i almost crashed due to me being in a 5200 lb car, and not knowojg how the handling is in very tight corners.
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Nice. I grew up Togue driving. Though I never called it that, I had my favourite mountainous road and I would drive the heck out of that route every day to the point I knew it like the back of my hand. I even had a few spontaneous races which was always super fun. Unfortunately I had to move away and haven't been able to drive that particular road for a long time. It would be great to go and revisit it again some day :)
would love to do this. unfortunate i live in the part of my country where the deer population is the highest and a deer crash is very very likely especially at night
It pisses me off when people who drive touges also drive like a$sholes in neighborhoods and just drive like idiots everywhere they go, I only drive fast on the touge, just like you should if you drive touge
i have a 55hp 2010 vw fox 1.2 and live very close to the nürburgring, ive done quite some laps with it in the last years (im 21 now and got the car at late 17) and over the years i have explored some local roads and found quite some nice touge roads but theres absolutely no one else doing this. but ive never really done it at night. the roads are super far off from much used ones and dont connect points of interest, i will try it very soon. the advantage is seeing if someone is coming around the corner thanks to the headlights reflecting on the guardrail. theres no village directly at them and im quite sure they cant hear the tires screeching so calling the police shouldnt be a problem, also i dont think anyone has ever noticed me driving race pace, as soon as i see a car, a biker or anyone else, i slow down early enough to not even make them think its me, even if they might have heard the tires. but my car looks 100% slow. but it isnt. id say i am a very good driver, i am a professional simracer at 5000+ hours, 20.000+ laps nürburgring nordschleife, i smoke tracktools on the nürburgring in reallife in the corners but im yet to properly set up the car, its on stock suspension, it keeps breaking a spring, the dampers need to be replaced by now, i got stock brakes, its basically just some good wide sport tires. but do you have a clue what to do if theres a malfunction, an accident or maybe just the engine giving up (mines got 218k km now and uses quite a lot of oil), how i can get back home? do you always have buddies around or ready to call? cause thats not gonna work for me and id have to call some officials to tow the car, maybe involve the police, then im just looking stupid and be in their heads in future… do you have equipment in place to do easier fixes at the road? should i prepare for that?
Massive respect my guy, it's WAY, WAY too rare to find safe, skilled drivers like yourself, at least where I live. Whenever I start racing with a random guy on the touge, 9 out of 10 times he's clearly a moron (either dangerous or doesn't know how to "properly" drive fast....and that's....dangerous) and I don't wish to race him again. Then comes the "respect your surroundings aspect" which you practically never see, even among skilled drivers. You look like a fellow skilled, respectful AND SAFE driver. Would love to chase you, in a world where we lived in the same area. Also own a slightly modded G184 :D Keep up what you're doing bro
Don't know why you'd bash on the crx tho. Because a LOT of touge drivers actually race in civic's and crx's. In the early day's of touge ( back in the early to mid 80's japan ) the touge was dominated by civic's and starlet's.
I am 19 years old. I live in the city of Novorossiysk, it is a mountainous area, and there are mountain roads. Recently I got my license and I take a Corolla 1.6 from my grandfather on the mechanic, and from my mother Yaris Verso on the automatic transmission, Yaris is very convenient for mountain roads. But I'm not racing yet. I have almost finished my studies as a navigator. I have already saved up 70 thousand rubles and I want to take the e36 for 2.0, in our region BMWs cost about 200-250 thousand rubles. I really want to do spirited driving. Your videos help people like me, I always thought that the most important thing is safety.
Use high beam for bends even if not off siding i dip for most bends at speed to see if anythings coming and it gives you way more info even if its just a flick back to low beam then back to high the more info the better
how do you find a road or make sure theres no wildlife like deers wandering around and minimize the chances of a wildlife accident? cause then (at least in germany) youd have to involve the public, either the cops or a forester. ive had a deer crash on the way to work and the police had to come and shoot it… or is this just not a thing in general in the us? thats what im most afraid of at night. i do have a touge road with many hairpins and where i dont really get over 100kph at all but on other roads im more concered about this. my prior accident was also just at 60kph on a straight road because it came out of the ditch so close in front of me. so yeah, how do you filter for that?
How the hell are you not going to recommend or even mention any of the civic chassis as beginner cars??? Ever since I first started a long ways back, there has always been fast civics on the mountain (the current fastest times on our 2 most popular roads are held by civics). Parts come easy, working on them is easy, and learning how to drive is easy. Hard to take anyone that's giving advice about touge seriously when they fail to mention how good FF Hondas are on mountain roads. You dont need rwd to learn or be fast on the mountain. This is coming from a miata owner.
One day on my local touge I see a civic driving fast while I was going back home, so turned around and start chasing him in my automatic 2010 Mazda 5. The guy in the Civic was almost driving to his limit, but event with a slow mom car I still achieve to be in his ass for a good 2 minutes when sudetly he lose control of his car in mid corner because of sand on the road. I know I wasen't diving against a Kevin because he save it and take the slide like a champ and. The fact that I know the road better than him make me a faster driver even with a Mazda 5 with broken sway bar and more issue.
Also weather matters the most after foogyness it tends to make the road slippery, thats so important, cold weather makes ur car less grippy so watchout
I agree with that u turn instead of driving like a dick your already planning to break a bunch of laws who cares about a freakin u turn or when im gooning with people they are afraid to go over double yellow.... its like my mans if we get caught we probably aren't driving home regardless lmao
Never ever drive for ego, ego kills. Know your limits. Do what you do for you and no one else, don’t let anything outside the car change your decision making skills. Unless it’s the cops, than move.
Preludes are underrated touge cars better suspension than civics a wee more power depending on which motor and like you said some models came with 4 wheel steering my 5th Gen base model still gets down on the touge even with no 4 wheel steering
i do know that im not the best so if i lead and i feel like im pushing it ill pull over and let them pass but ive noticed i feel more comfortable chasing and can go well over my limit and still be good and that is only due to me reacting to the lead car instead of reading to much of the rd
so many times on my local togue ive seen people late at night going the opposite direction but flip their flashers on does this mean cop ahead or hey u turn and chase me
Been togue driving a base model 5 speed Corolla for half a decade, upgraded my brakes/suspension and it is all I could ever ask for to have fun on the mountains
it's a shame, i live in an area with amazing roads for stuff like this but unfortunately it's mostly residential and even worse their's deer and animals EVERYWHERE, hitting a buck doing 100mph could legit kill you. side note, shame a WRX weighs so much, the awd makes you feel like you have complete control but the weight and distribution makes it feel very held back.
Can I drive a double yellow if I have a road and no one goes on I have one person on top one person on the bottom with a radio tell me someone’s coming up or not
7:10 Ha Except for Hong Kong It's basically a show between Honda, Golf and A class. Sometimes some BMW, Toyota, Subaru and Audi. I rarely see anyone with a MX5 running over here
One quick mention From Highway crossed to mountain passes are mostly filled with R35, M4, and C43 The Asian car scene is basically about the same. Very different from what most of you Americans think.
Damn, half of the video being a disclaimer Props to safety; I remember specifically a classmate of mine totaled their BMW because they were overly excited to have their license (I happened to pass by the wreck and my friend’s GTI at the side of the road, and I later pulled over to call and check on them) Being new to the act of touge itself, I’m starting out with an EK sedan as I’m the most familiar with Honda’s compact cars as I grew up sim racing with things like the EK9 and DC2, and I plan to hone my driving to see what I can do with 106 hp and my small budget
i also cannot emphasize how important this is: stay in your lane, especially for blind corners!! this isn't a race track, so don't drive it like it is one. on a race track, you don't have to ever worry about oncomming traffic. another good point is that on these narrow roads, having a car with a bunch of horsepower won't really help as much, and ull find yourself enjoying smaller lighter cars 10x more since you pretty much have to brake for corners every few hundred meters
A crx wouldn’t be as fun as a Miata? I wanna understand why because both are great cars. Sure they’re setup differently but when it comes down to it that’s usually driver preference.
hi i am 17 and when i am 18 i will take mi licence buy a car and see your video like 10 times becauese i think it helps sooo much for beginers thank you so much
I use a 7th Gen Celica for this, the suspension on It's platform is dialed in well, so it just stays flat through the corners, and with the front-wheel-drive, the understeer is nice and predictable.
Another thing to mention would be to stay in your lane and not cross double yellows, especially around blind corners. Also for newer drivers, don't be afraid to ask questions, you always want to be open to improving your driving ability. Another good thing to study is proper driving techniques (rev match, heal/toe, trail braking, weight transfer, seat positioning, & hand placement on your steering wheel). For most of these tehchniques, its better to practice on an open road before hitting your local back road/touge. Other than that, pretty solid advice!
The way I learned basic driving techniques (well first I would choose a sim if possible) was driving in large empty parking lots. If you have a lake near you, the parking lot for the boat ramp is usually ideal. Plenty of room to heel/toe, weight transfer, catching slides
Weight Transfer is very important thanks for pointing it out
@@GameraS2K Yup, same here. Helped me a lot on learning the grip limits of my car, and how to correct it when it does happen.
Anyone serious about driving stick needs to be heel-toeing ANYTIME the drive. It's a technique that's easy to learn but has an incredibly high skill ceiling and you only get better the more you do it. I've been driving stick for nearly 20 years, and I still work on nailing that PERFECT heel toe on every drive.
Thank youu
The chassis that really stands out for the touge is a Honda Fit, no joke Honda fits are the fastest cars on my local roads (excluding NA Miata’s). I think the biggest when looking for a car is weight, not type of car.
This is actually facts, unironically
They are okay. Just shy of Miatas. Many much more capable cars out there though.
The thing with the Fit is it has decent handling that is easy to exploit and they are not set up to snap or really oversteer at all. So they can be taken to 100% of their limit which makes them fun and surprisingly fast.
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Agreed weight is king, i had a dailey starlet with coils and tyres and managed to gap plenty of "fast" cars.
here in florida i have like one short twisty road 40 mins away from me 💀
Yo slide the locatin to that road
* snap oversteer is NOT a thing *
I have to say this cuz "snap oversteer" is USUALLY used in a incorrect way. ppl usually use that term as a "scare" tactic. ( and its usually only put on the mr2 platform and it gives the platform a bad omen )
its exactly what you said earlier.. "driver mod". snap over steer happens because of "driver" error and not platform issues.
you can " snap " oversteer in ANY platform.
go into a corner incorrectly and let off the throttle / give it too much throttle at the wrong time and when the car unloads and loads back up quickly and "snaps" in the opposite direction , THATS snap oversteer.
My touge car is a 01 2zz mr2 spyder. they dont just "snap". they only do things YOU make them do. they are machines. they dont have a mind of their own.
with that being said , great video !
You are completely right, happened to me in a Miata as well. And Miatas are usually very well behaved. Also it was a 100% driver error.
My main peice of advice would be dont push it when your angry. Every car ive binned was driving angry, in some way i was being self destructive but it always kept me in a bad mood driving agressive and even more so if you crash.
Driving a mild pace is actually soothing and you end up feeling alot better afterwards.
Mods note: start with decent tyres and brake pads and then turn to suspension.
Cooking your brake down hill is a scary experiences and can end your night early. Tyres are the only thing connecting you to the road ( i rate bridgstone potenza for budget ).
Suspension will give you more controll over the car, i usually go for a chunky sway bar and mid range dampening on the coilovers.
After that i would go for a seat and maybe a steering wheel if you want and some good quality strut braces.
At that point you have yourself a good set up to go have fun, be safe, hone your skill and start beating some proper fast cars like the the legendary GTR😂
Yoo Griffin, I love the touge shirt merch I just got. It looks so good in person.
I bought my prelude for this very reason out of all the fwd Hondas the prelude has the best suspension set up in my opinion not including integras I’ve driven modified civics and stock ones on the touge but the prelude in its stock form just does it better I’ve never felt so on rails in a fwd car coming through the corners it just does everything I want it to and more
Really enjoyed this video. I think it's important to mention to bring safety equipment such as tire repair and fire estinguisher, do not want to start a forest fire. Also checking for potholes and overhanging trees on google maps. Logs and branches can fall making those roads really risky, especially with slippery tree sap!
keep it up griffin ur amazing :-)
i dont think ive ever been this early to a vid and this is a good one to be early to
I got a lot of miles on bikes in canyons, a pair of tyres every 6 weeks although i switched to dirt a while ago. You pretty much covered everything. Oh, if you see a group of bike behind you, just let them pass.
Would a 2008 Toyota Matrix xr with a manual transmission be a good starter car?
Love the video! It’s great to hear this advice as I try to learn and get better
Thanks for this video. It was my birthday yesterday and I was having fun driving but couldnt do any of this. Also thanks for sending me the autobody recommendation. That place is great.
mentioning snap oversteer in an mr2 is the one surefire way to tell everyone "i have no idea what the fuck im talking about!"
but why?, I thought that was a genuine critique of the mid engine design.
Love this style of video. you’re killing it g
i drive touge on a cbr 300! its dangerous but its fun.
Finallyyyyyy 🔥🔥
Thanks so much for making this video man, i love you (no homo)
Less gooo✨🤩
I dont have a licence yet, but I bought an e90 and I live on the countyside of Germany with a lot of curvy roads so this is gonna be very usefull advice 🫶🏻
Don't tell a bunch of people about the road you drive you wanna keep it as empty as possible
This was helpful.
The only vehicle I have is my 1997 Silverado pickup, at 5000 pounds I know it’s not ideal for togue but it’s what I have and I have fun with it safely within my limits but I’m curious, what is all yours opinions in vehicles like mine that aren’t ideal in the slightest for togue? I’m kinda new to this stuff so i want to see what the community thinks on matters such as this.
You will kill someone 😎
If I were you I'd just stick to freeway racing. I personally would never call someone with a hellcat (boat) a chicken for not wanting to race on togue. The lighter cars ABSOLUTLEY have the advatage when it comes to twisty roads.
Just make sure your breaks are in good shape
My brother in law got a 12v Cummings with the manual transmission. He had it loaded with tools and an aluminum cap. When he got it tuned he tossed me the key and we took it down the back roads and said beat it up . I drove a couple miles he said pull over , he jumped in the seat and scared the shit out of me , that thing handled and pulled like a freight train. We both always had hooked up cars built for the back roads but that truck was impressive
Also please psa, do not drive fast ever on your first time checking out a road.(:
i live right next to this road lol
15:40 in my country you have to work 13 year no paying to anything for buy a stupid m3 1995
Great video
i got 3-4 touges like 5 minutes away from me😂
is this in sj area ?
Too bad i dont have much good roads.
TIP: Don’t blast music to the point where you can’t hear your engine or tires!!!!
If you’re gonna be driving like this, you wanna be able to hear your car! if your tires are losing grip, or if something is going wrong with your motor, suspension, ect.
Stay safe 🙏🏽
But Eurobeat.
Huge point, u need all the information u can get
so true@@MalcomHeavy
nothing can;t go wrong with eurobeat on tho.
None of my touge cars ever had a stereo system nor speakers, weight reduction baby
My number 1 tip for driving touge, and thats coming from a German who regularly drives in the Eifel area (that's where the Nürburgring is, there's tons of twisty mountain roads there) is that you should build experience and very importantly don't always drive in groups. Drive alone from time to time to get to know your current limits and to get into your own groove on that road. Like in Initial D, Takumi built up all that experience and got that fast because he was driving alone constantly and it makes sense. There's much less distractions and nobody is setting the tempo for you.
Another tip is to not always listen to music. I get that it's fun to listen to something in the background, but having it off means you get to hear all sounds your car makes on the street so you can notice tire squeaking and even bad engine noises much sooner and even get to know the sounds your car makes usually.
Drive safe and have fun!
always better to do it alone, no judgement and competition so u can concentrate
I concur. The roads near Nurburgring where ace. Enjoyed them in My ex- FN2 CTR
Another tip: Radar detector. Helped me out so many times when doing spirited driving. Not all cops are outfitted with radars or have them on all the time. But getting a detector gives you the ability to see which car has them on and where they are. Investing in a decent quality around 200-300 will give you a bit more confidence, especially at night. Some detectors even have arrow signifiers to show you where they're coming from so you don't have to frantically look around.
lol it's like most wanted
Fr 😂
Personally, I recommend the Valentine One. It's top notch. Extremely expensive, but has saved my ass dozens of times.
Although it’s expensive, I recommend the uniden r7!!!
Related, don't make the mistake I did and deliberately buy a used Valentine One without the K-false filter. Those stupid blind spot radars are not a luxury feature anymore, in fact Chevy SUVs are one of the most common and annoying sources of K-band falses
I don't have too much experience since I'm still young at 17, but I will say that if you plan on bringing a much heavier car to the touge, the most important thing is making sure you have good brakes and pads. I drive an '09 audi a5 3.2, and brake fade has scared me and nearly sent me off a road a few too many times. Please do not overdo it and get too excited, racing a 911 in your heavy boat through hard curves will never end up well. After my soul leaving my body and a pair of slightly pissed pants, I threw away my ego (my pants) and started driving within the limits of my car and myself.
I completely know what you mean, My vehicle is a 1997 Silverado pickup that weighs around 5000 pounds and whenever I drive my local togue I always stay within my limits, of course each time slowly pushing my limit further and further up in a safe manner, but I know full well that eventually I’ll hit a wall (metaphorically) and there simply won’t be anything else I’ll be able to do to achieve higher speed given the vehicle that I have to work with, having good brakes is essential to safely driving any heavy vehicle down the togue.
17 and has a audi what in the rich 😂
I’m in the same boat but i’m old af. Car needs to rest a lot for brakes and it’s almost impossible to breathe next to it while the brakes cool down just because of the smell
@@pearlpoint9838 driving a silverado fast must be fkin scary man ahahaha you never know when gravity will take control over your steering wheel with those things
@@pearlpoint9838bro driving a mf truck like it’s need for speed you need to be arrested immediately
I think you missed one really, really important thing.
Do a full run down of your wearable items before you leave for the touge.
Tires, brakes, nut and bolt check your tie rods, lug nuts, headlights, oil level, make sure theres nothing leaking in the engine bay, etc.
You have to treat touge like motorsport. Harmonics loosen things up, brake fluid breaks down, brakes wear out, your alignment can change and cause uneven wear in your tires, a small oil/fuel leak can start a fire if your turbo starts glowing, things like that.
Taking the extra bit of time not only gets you closer to the car you drive and give you more confidence, but it can save your life and others around you.
You have to respect touge and everything that comes with it.
Stay safe everyone and have fun
That is all very important. Another check point of that rundown is secure or remove anything from the back seat . You don't want tools , a spare tire or anything becoming a projectile if something goes haywire. I rolled a car hitting the twisties and it was a tornado of heave stuff flying around the cabin , I was lucky not a scratch on me .
Main thing is it's all about having fun and being safe so you can do it again
Should do a video on how to prevent a crash. Oversteer/understeer, racing lines, brake zones, things not to do such as braking mid corner, liftoff oversteer, down shifting/rev matching, how to save yourself from over/understeer, etc etc. Number one reason I see crashes is because people lack a basic understanding of what causes them to crash.
Have you found a video that’s explains these things?
"How to prevent a crash"; drive within the limit of your ability. All the other things you mentioned are how to drive. The cause of a crash is losing control of the vehicle because you are driving beyond the limit of your control.
The tough thing is finding a place to practice all of this first hand. Irl is a a lot different from a sim and everyone doesn’t have decent sim rig. You kinda have to take risks to get faster. Even if it’s just an inch at a time.
@@biagioruotolo95there are plenty of race theory videos that explain it. I like tsrb, and the going faster documentary is a must watch
This is all first hand practice and experience lol, and racing lines don’t matter since you shouldn’t cross double yellows
Any 90s hatch like a civic, golf, fiesta, 106 etc. Will be more fun than a GT-R for a touge, specially in very tight roads you just gotta make sure to keep the momentum
Great info Griffin! I've been driving the togue since I was 16. My friend who came from Hong Kong convinced me to go on a drive with him on our local pass. He drove fast and introduced me to togue racing/spirited driving. He had a 94 Accord, and me in my 96 Mazda 626. Fast forward 16 years, I'm in a 15 Corolla S (which I bought to replace my 626 lol), and still in that same town and drive that pass every day for work and drive it at some nights. Now FF cars aren't the best per se, but they still have good handling. I'd switch to sport springs and see if that works for suspension. If you want, add a sway bar next. Though for me, I need better tires because mine are some random brand that came with the used car I got lol. I would like to get an MX-5 though...hopefully(?)
I agree with your disclaimers. All excellent points, particularly the first one. There's some turns which may seem easy, but are super deceptive and become tighter, so you'll need to practice it. I know there are 2 turns that still cause my blood to go cold sometimes if I go over a certain speed despite driving the togue for over 15 years.
Great content man! Keep it up!
Good delivery and info. Love the message, safety first, respect the road and others, do it for the love of driving not the bragging rights. Keep up the good work brother!
Very good guide. I'd add, brakes... They need to be good, even more in cars that tend to suffer with brake fade (i.e. FA5 SIs). The same goes to tires
With brakes, make sure to do research on heat capacity. Example: ceramic pads seem great, because they last longer, quieter, smoother - however, very prone to brake fade. Semi-metallic brake pads don't last as long, not as smooth and quiet, but brake fade comes at a higher temp. Just something to keep in mind that I WISH somebody told me
currently using a 1999 2.5 RS impreza to learn this style of driving. All I can say is this slow little thing is way more fun that my STI and feels faster in a weird way
AS A LONG TIME RACER talking going back late 90's !! don't be a jerk on the road show respect! you avoid police this way, 2nd tires and breaks matter! learn auto Mechanics to understand some things like brake fade OEM break pads catch fire 3rd never go around a slow car if they cant get away they lost no need to make things worse and drive on the wrong side of the road its done and over. last back off people that are not racing wait for them to pull to the side of the road when safe or you pull over and let time pass goes back to Respect, don't ever think you can close a road police will shut you down and you rek it for every one else LET ME BE CLEAR street take overs are for none racers Fyi stance cars under-steer and mountain roads are bumpy stock hight is recommended some times you go off road
Thoughts on the 7th gen Toyota Celica? Has a very low center of gravity and only weights about 1.100kgs with 192hp,pretty short gears and a 6 speed trans.
There really good and super underrated. Fastest car in my area is a supercharged 7th gen and it hauls ass. It scared the shit out of me in the passenger seat 😂
General edicate for pedestrian cars is how japan car culture has stayed alive for so long. They understand the importance of not drawing unnecessary attention.
You should drive the road you want to learn during the day. Drive slowly and try to learn where the road changes textures, major bumps as well as the general road geometry. Lots of things you can't see at night are really obvious in the daylight.
There is a time of year in my area where deer are in what is called "the rut" it's coming up soon and they are wild that time of year , they run across the road in packs
I'm so jealous you can find a twisty road within 20 minutes of you lmao. I need to move. For those who don't live in Cali you may need to bump that travel time to over an hour. Some places just won't have a road... make a weekend trip of it. Good luck homies
Love the video. All great advice! I will add the disclaimer that some people prefer fwd or awd and may find those more fun. Not me, but they exist. Also if you have a convertible, your first upgrade other than brake pads and fluid and making sure your tires are 5 years old or newer should be a roll bar. Safety first
I'm one of those who prefer FWD haha.
I love the extra challenge it presents.
Tip: Turning off Eurobeat/Phonk reduces the likelihood of crashes.
I’m not a new driver but have little experience to touge or spirited driving. sadly, pushing myself out of my comfort zone and limits 3 months back resulted in losing my is300 in a canyon run with some buddies after only having it for 3 days … I’ve been watching multiple videos on do’s and don’ts because last month i got myself another is300 and this time I’m being way more cautious about how I drive and learn the road so it won’t happen again. So far, I still have the car and have been learning so much slowly but surely and most importantly, safely. Great video! Hopefully I can start capturing my moments on my channel so I can show my growth and Experience as I progress.
every single highschool in the Bay area had atleast one drag race kid that died on a mountain road in a ford mustang. I think it's important for beginners to do dumb shit like skidding around in a parking lot so that they can learn what will make their car start sliding out of control and avoid that when taking turns on actual roads. Cant tell you how many times I've been in a car that started sliding and the first thing the driver did was instinctively stomp on the brakes mid corner. Also should probably stress the importance of a manual transmission/automatic with a manual gear select option. The few close calls I've had on winding roads was when my transmission decided to downshift mid corner and caused me to lose traction. No matter the brand, you really cannot trust an automatic transmission when going downhill. Ironically, CVT transmissions are horrible in many aspects, but in my experience they are less likely to send a jolt through the drivetrain and cause you to spin out than a regular automatic.
Totally true regarding power. I was driving my 450hp track car and got passed in the twistiest section by a black NA Miata. So I picked up an NA Miata. So much fun and 86hp can be a blast!
I have a mr2/mrs and you definitely have to learn how to drive mr before trying to rip it at the canyon and as far as the snap oversteer; it's usually caused by driver error. The second gen is more prone to it I believe but a lot of the time it can be controlled if you have the experience and seat time. Good video tho, well said!
My dream car is an MR2, is the snap oversteer in the car a very large problem or is it usually a "media" thing that people say?
@@ninsean1 it's not a huge problem people make it out to be. When I drive my car it's not something I think about unless it's pouring rain.
Also good luck and I hope you can get your dream car in the future
Great point about how outright speed isn't the most important for togue. I once had a spontaneous uphill race with a B4 Legacy in my '89 BG Familia GTX. We were right close the whole time until we got to a straighter section and he finally gapped me. It wasn't the longest race but we were both going hard and it is still one of the most intense races of my life lol
DO NOT DRIVE AT DUSK AND DAWN IF YOU HAVE BIG ANIMALS NEAR THE TOUGE (deers,wolfs,etc..). They will either kill you or total your car :)
Another Tip I would say is to learn from others. If you know someone who is faster than you or has more experience maybe you could sit with them in their vehicle and watch what they do
Great video, seriously.
I've been doing Touge since 1999. I am so glad it is still alive and has become very niche and not trendy or overly popular as it became 2001-2005 and then died off (thanks Fast and Furious) Now a days it's so, so rare to find people who understand, respect, and enjoy Touge. I am constantly looking back each year at how long I've been doing it. I've had a road in Reno, NV called Geiger Grade that I've been driving and riding since 2011 to present day... love it. My home is basically on the road as well. Also to note I worked my way up from lower hp and lighter vehicles to higher hp vehicles that are heavier and man it's been a long, long journey but I have loved it.
Great video! Absolutely for sure never ever be letting your ego drive your car. My first time ever going on a touge run, i almost crashed due to me being in a 5200 lb car, and not knowojg how the handling is in very tight corners.
Also you mentioned the E36, what about the E46 chassis???
Tire Pressure
Engine Oil Levels
Coolant Levels
Power Steering Fluids
Tire Health/Alignment
Window Clarity and Fog Resistance
Wiper Blade Quality
Driving Position
Car Repair Tools
First Aid Kit
Community Notice Boards
Red Light/Speed Camera Locations
Sleep Quality
Head Space and Mental
Course Familiarity
2am-4am Saturday/Sunday (with high beams)
Weather Reports
good tips, and always watch out for wild life!
Nice. I grew up Togue driving. Though I never called it that, I had my favourite mountainous road and I would drive the heck out of that route every day to the point I knew it like the back of my hand. I even had a few spontaneous races which was always super fun.
Unfortunately I had to move away and haven't been able to drive that particular road for a long time. It would be great to go and revisit it again some day :)
Sounds like a good time bro
would love to do this. unfortunate i live in the part of my country where the deer population is the highest and a deer crash is very very likely especially at night
It pisses me off when people who drive touges also drive like a$sholes in neighborhoods and just drive like idiots everywhere they go, I only drive fast on the touge, just like you should if you drive touge
i have a 55hp 2010 vw fox 1.2 and live very close to the nürburgring, ive done quite some laps with it in the last years (im 21 now and got the car at late 17) and over the years i have explored some local roads and found quite some nice touge roads but theres absolutely no one else doing this. but ive never really done it at night. the roads are super far off from much used ones and dont connect points of interest, i will try it very soon. the advantage is seeing if someone is coming around the corner thanks to the headlights reflecting on the guardrail. theres no village directly at them and im quite sure they cant hear the tires screeching so calling the police shouldnt be a problem, also i dont think anyone has ever noticed me driving race pace, as soon as i see a car, a biker or anyone else, i slow down early enough to not even make them think its me, even if they might have heard the tires. but my car looks 100% slow.
but it isnt. id say i am a very good driver, i am a professional simracer at 5000+ hours, 20.000+ laps nürburgring nordschleife, i smoke tracktools on the nürburgring in reallife in the corners but im yet to properly set up the car, its on stock suspension, it keeps breaking a spring, the dampers need to be replaced by now, i got stock brakes, its basically just some good wide sport tires. but do you have a clue what to do if theres a malfunction, an accident or maybe just the engine giving up (mines got 218k km now and uses quite a lot of oil), how i can get back home? do you always have buddies around or ready to call? cause thats not gonna work for me and id have to call some officials to tow the car, maybe involve the police, then im just looking stupid and be in their heads in future…
do you have equipment in place to do easier fixes at the road? should i prepare for that?
Massive respect my guy, it's WAY, WAY too rare to find safe, skilled drivers like yourself, at least where I live. Whenever I start racing with a random guy on the touge, 9 out of 10 times he's clearly a moron (either dangerous or doesn't know how to "properly" drive fast....and that's....dangerous) and I don't wish to race him again. Then comes the "respect your surroundings aspect" which you practically never see, even among skilled drivers. You look like a fellow skilled, respectful AND SAFE driver. Would love to chase you, in a world where we lived in the same area. Also own a slightly modded G184 :D Keep up what you're doing bro
Don't know why you'd bash on the crx tho. Because a LOT of touge drivers actually race in civic's and crx's. In the early day's of touge ( back in the early to mid 80's japan ) the touge was dominated by civic's and starlet's.
I am 19 years old. I live in the city of Novorossiysk, it is a mountainous area, and there are mountain roads. Recently I got my license and I take a Corolla 1.6 from my grandfather on the mechanic, and from my mother Yaris Verso on the automatic transmission, Yaris is very convenient for mountain roads. But I'm not racing yet. I have almost finished my studies as a navigator. I have already saved up 70 thousand rubles and I want to take the e36 for 2.0, in our region BMWs cost about 200-250 thousand rubles. I really want to do spirited driving. Your videos help people like me, I always thought that the most important thing is safety.
Use high beam for bends even if not off siding i dip for most bends at speed to see if anythings coming and it gives you way more info even if its just a flick back to low beam then back to high the more info the better
It might be immature but the joy I felt when you said the MR2 was a good touge car ! 😂😂😂
how do you find a road or make sure theres no wildlife like deers wandering around and minimize the chances of a wildlife accident? cause then (at least in germany) youd have to involve the public, either the cops or a forester. ive had a deer crash on the way to work and the police had to come and shoot it… or is this just not a thing in general in the us? thats what im most afraid of at night. i do have a touge road with many hairpins and where i dont really get over 100kph at all but on other roads im more concered about this. my prior accident was also just at 60kph on a straight road because it came out of the ditch so close in front of me. so yeah, how do you filter for that?
How the hell are you not going to recommend or even mention any of the civic chassis as beginner cars??? Ever since I first started a long ways back, there has always been fast civics on the mountain (the current fastest times on our 2 most popular roads are held by civics). Parts come easy, working on them is easy, and learning how to drive is easy. Hard to take anyone that's giving advice about touge seriously when they fail to mention how good FF Hondas are on mountain roads.
You dont need rwd to learn or be fast on the mountain. This is coming from a miata owner.
One day on my local touge I see a civic driving fast while I was going back home, so turned around and start chasing him in my automatic 2010 Mazda 5.
The guy in the Civic was almost driving to his limit, but event with a slow mom car I still achieve to be in his ass for a good 2 minutes when sudetly he lose control of his car in mid corner because of sand on the road.
I know I wasen't diving against a Kevin because he save it and take the slide like a champ and.
The fact that I know the road better than him make me a faster driver even with a Mazda 5 with broken sway bar and more issue.
Also weather matters the most after foogyness it tends to make the road slippery, thats so important, cold weather makes ur car less grippy so watchout
if I were in Wales (I live in London, but have lived in Wales brifly), I'd be driving the A4069.
I agree with that u turn instead of driving like a dick your already planning to break a bunch of laws who cares about a freakin u turn or when im gooning with people they are afraid to go over double yellow.... its like my mans if we get caught we probably aren't driving home regardless lmao
Never ever drive for ego, ego kills. Know your limits. Do what you do for you and no one else, don’t let anything outside the car change your decision making skills.
Unless it’s the cops, than move.
My 3rd gen prelude is also awesome at this, it has 4 wheel steering though so it helps a lot.
Preludes are underrated touge cars better suspension than civics a wee more power depending on which motor and like you said some models came with 4 wheel steering my 5th Gen base model still gets down on the touge even with no 4 wheel steering
Always loved the 3rd gen preludes. Crazy aesthetic looking cars too lol
i do know that im not the best so if i lead and i feel like im pushing it ill pull over and let them pass but ive noticed i feel more comfortable chasing and can go well over my limit and still be good and that is only due to me reacting to the lead car instead of reading to much of the rd
why am i even watching this... we don't have mountains or big hills in my country...
so many times on my local togue ive seen people late at night going the opposite direction but flip their flashers on does this mean cop ahead or hey u turn and chase me
also how do i challenge someone to a race on the touge, (miata NC3 driver)
Just recently bought a 6-6 accord and want to do touge. Went touge on 5th gen prelude and had so much fun
Been togue driving a base model 5 speed Corolla for half a decade, upgraded my brakes/suspension and it is all I could ever ask for to have fun on the mountains
If there is anyone to learn this from it’s you!👍
it's a shame, i live in an area with amazing roads for stuff like this but unfortunately it's mostly residential and even worse their's deer and animals EVERYWHERE, hitting a buck doing 100mph could legit kill you.
side note, shame a WRX weighs so much, the awd makes you feel like you have complete control but the weight and distribution makes it feel very held back.
arizona viewers failed on the first tip 💀
I have an honda civic es5. Can I togue in that or will I kill myself ? Lmao
Can I drive a double yellow if I have a road and no one goes on I have one person on top one person on the bottom with a radio tell me someone’s coming up or not
Touge but left hand drive? and keep right? IDTS
bro im in florida. I failed from the first step: finding a mountain....
7:10
Ha Except for Hong Kong
It's basically a show between Honda, Golf and A class.
Sometimes some BMW, Toyota, Subaru and Audi.
I rarely see anyone with a MX5 running over here
One quick mention
From Highway crossed to mountain passes are mostly filled with R35, M4, and C43
The Asian car scene is basically about the same. Very different from what most of you Americans think.
Damn, half of the video being a disclaimer
Props to safety; I remember specifically a classmate of mine totaled their BMW because they were overly excited to have their license (I happened to pass by the wreck and my friend’s GTI at the side of the road, and I later pulled over to call and check on them)
Being new to the act of touge itself, I’m starting out with an EK sedan as I’m the most familiar with Honda’s compact cars as I grew up sim racing with things like the EK9 and DC2, and I plan to hone my driving to see what I can do with 106 hp and my small budget
respect track limits!! if you have not closed the road, tighten your racing line and stay in your lane.
Awesome thanks for the tips Griffin stay safe out there, we don't want to lose an awesome content creator
i also cannot emphasize how important this is: stay in your lane, especially for blind corners!! this isn't a race track, so don't drive it like it is one. on a race track, you don't have to ever worry about oncomming traffic.
another good point is that on these narrow roads, having a car with a bunch of horsepower won't really help as much, and ull find yourself enjoying smaller lighter cars 10x more since you pretty much have to brake for corners every few hundred meters
A crx wouldn’t be as fun as a Miata? I wanna understand why because both are great cars. Sure they’re setup differently but when it comes down to it that’s usually driver preference.
I misspoke, meant to say CRV haha. CRX's are awesome
I WILL make touge common in Brazil, fr
hi i am 17 and when i am 18 i will take mi licence buy a car and see your video like 10 times becauese i think it helps sooo much for beginers thank you so much
I use a 7th Gen Celica for this, the suspension on It's platform is dialed in well, so it just stays flat through the corners, and with the front-wheel-drive, the understeer is nice and predictable.
ahhh a tutorial coming from the legendary touge driver himself 🙏 truly an honor