Kia Stinger 2018 in-depth review - better than a BMW or Audi? | carwow Reviews
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2018
- The Kia Stinger: a car that takes the Korean brand away from the sensible and affordable, and against some genuine performance cars. This top spec GT model gets a 3.3-litre turbo V6 engine which places it very much in Audi S5 Sportback and BMW 440i Gran Coupe territory. So can it compete against the premium rivals? Find out in my full, in-depth review.
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Hi Mat Watson here. To all you doubters of my integrity I've done a short video wobbling some other cars' centre consoles to see if they flex as bad as the Stinger's ua-cam.com/video/MCgZYhX9QnM/v-deo.html
MatWatsonCars :: look at his fake motions. He looks like he trying to shaking center console but look at his hands and fingers. Not even pressed!
It is shame on him he even made this video, you should just say sorry. People make mistakes.
He´s pressing with his palms, he would not get enough pressure if he pushed with his fingers.
Well done Mat ! It's hard to some kia lovers to swallow the truth ... let them choke with your video proof
My 2003 Toyota Yaris will outlast any German made cars,.... 15 years....almost ZERO problems,...!!! My other car is A Toyota...
RAIZAL MOHAMMAD:
Only poor people in third world countries stay 15 years with the same car, normal people exchange cars every 3 to 5 years.
Never the less, there are MANY VW, Mercedes and BMW with more than 1000000 km and more than 2 decades still on the roads, there are Mercedes 190D with more them 2 MILION km still going strong, as a matter of fact there are Merdeces , Porches, VW on the road from even before Toyota was born ! So get some education and some knowledge about the automobile industry before saying bullshit !
I am a BMW fan but not everyone wants to get Bmw or an Audi.. healthy competition between car makers is always welcome on the market.. hats off to the Kia.
Hats off to kia for making a car with shitty interior parts that look like they're about to fall off 😂
no you dont. you are korean troll
Deke hats off to you for a respectful, non-biased comment.
@@omarabdul2864 MASERATI use dodge buttons an out dated screen the base model LEVANTE doesn't even have parking sensors and they took a FERRARI engine and somehow made it even more unreliable and that's a MASERATI
@@omarabdul2864 and have you ever sat in a STINGER I've been sitting in BMW AUDI and VOLVO my hole life and this still feels good obviously it's not as good but not far off
Friend: "So Mat, how was your date last night?"
Mat: "It was alright. The girl is nice, but she isn't as good as BMW's iDrive."
amse9297 Girl?
LOL
Died
lol
LMFAO!!! Exactly!!!
this is the first time I am saying this " Mat, you were very much biased.. try an appreciate the efforts that the engineer have put in making the vehicle"..
What are u guys talking about?😐
the Stinger actually has 6.3 more cubic feet then the BMW and 1.5 more cubic feet of cargo space than the Audi sportback. So that statement you made about it being 20% less is false
Could you fucking stop using eagles per hundred gallons of freedom please?
he is biased
whatever you say BMW Audi and Mercedes Benz is much better than KIA lol 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
@@kenzshayaan6046 yes.. those cars are much better, but you have to pay a higher price
@@danielcrytec have to pay to play....
Carwow drinking game....
Everytime Matt says "German" or "German rivals" have a drink. You'll never see the end of another video. 👍🍹🍺🥂
I didn’t know I was watching an Audi review
Who pays the bills
Wow...this guy made his mind up before he got out of bed....I went out with an open mind....and bought one. It's ace...
I have one. The same S model. It's an absolute joy. I've had it 3 months and still feels exciting every drive honestly.
So Matt who's 5 ft 10, complains about head room in the back but Doug who's 6 ft 3, says he fits there just fine.
ahvike124 Dougls a rubbish reviewer
he actually films himself in the back seat and he fits just fine
Exactly. I have seen that review just a few minutes ago. Even Motor Trend has no complaint about it except the hood.
I LOVE CARS.. why is DeMuro rubbish reviewer ? because it show much more detailed all car's features ?! ha ha ha.. !!! obviously you don't know what you say here.. (>_< )
I'm 184cm and my head hit the roof in the rear sitting in the same position I would sit in the front seats. If you sit really low and have your knees around your head you'll fit into any seat, sit that way for an hour and see how comfortable it is. Unfortunately asian cars are just small in the back, Hondas Civic and Toyotas Auris all had me hitting my head in the back.
Kia Stinger : 23.3 cubic feet trunk > BMW 4 series Gran Coupe : 17 cubic feet trunk.
Matt thinks, SUPERIOR GERMAN car is somehow magically bigger.
He shouldn't be doing car review, if he can't get the fact right.
This is a leap forward for Kia. In the near future will be equally competitive with German rivals, this is an excellent car.
True! But sadly people don't know this car well enough, and this kind of biased reviews dont help either.
@Dzek Trbosjek Not steals... Albert Bierman left BMW M divison for KIA, because he was fed up with BMW.
@@dmtk10 they wteal from hyundai as well
@@pavelten1540 Hyundai actually owns Kia.
What that supposed to be a 12 minute advert for the Audi A5 Sportback?
I just watched Doug's review on this car and it honestly was much better, he reviews the car for what it is and not totally based on the brand itself. You didn't even mention the style of the car or the safety equipment.
Matheus Carvalho Totally agree with you there, man. I watched his review as well before watching this, and I think his is much better.
True. He didn’t mention the styling, which he always does in other videos.
Doug knows nothing about cars.
In North America the Stinger is way cheaper than the German rivals.
Same in Australia, The Stinger is around $65,000.00 AUD where an Audi S5 is about $100,000.00 AUD.
Same in New Zealand would never compare the two
Barobran92 Everything is cheaper than Germans
You may dislike the car and not feel that posh but I wouldn't regret it for buying it. Today's cars are mostly short lived until a breakdown occurs. Kia vehicles however, are one of the most reliable ones today.
@Yushiro Tanabe it's their(Korean cars, especially Kia) rather long warranty period that is more significant.
Ignore the badge. Its an amazing car. With a 8 year warranty
He talked about *AUDI & BMW* so much I forgot this was a *KIA* review, (tut tut)!😨
Robert Bold clearly on Audi’s payroll, won’t say a bad word about them
Go and watch comparisons where carwow features audis - matt always mentiones the negatvies of the cars, like the looks and the distant driving experience
Because that´s the task the stinger has ahead of him for that price point. Since the car is no bargain you have to compare it to it´s rivals, which mainly are Audi, BMW and Mercedes.
Free4Noob Stinger is not in the same price bracket as the equivalent German with similar specs.
Free4Noob: 10 k cheaper than the standard price of a comparable Audi, BMW or Merc...and fully equiped in standard guise. You'll be paying at least 15k £ more for one equally equiped. But than again this is not half the car because the cupboard cover is slightly harder plastic than in a German one. And here I was thinking cars were about getting from A to B in a pleaserable way...turns out they really are about how many dead cows were fitted in there.
I mean, Yes, it's not on the level of Audi and Mercedes on the interior quality, but it won't cost an arm and a leg to fix when it breaks down. Which won't be often... unlike Audi and Mercedes
With the 7 year warranty it will cost you nothing actually
These comments are so overused when comparing everything to German cars
So true man
@@kristians2704 Its overused because its so true, I had friends in the past who complained about money all the time, but would still repair their old wornout German cars instead of buying smth more suitable to their budget, saving up, investing, etc, to not have money problems.
I know a lot of people turning away from Germany for performance cars.
Stinger is why.
Of course you do, that's why u see stingers all the time and it has been a massive success for KIA, oh wait that didn't happen
@@tomsmith3805 People will praise this car model but when comes to actual purchase, how many of them will really buy?
@@tomsmith3805 well I bought the car 2021 and I am fully impressed..
Hmmm the b58 wipes the floor with this engine...
Have never ever seen one, what a joke of a car and a joke of a comment
If you spec Audi or BMW same as this top range KIA, they would be double the price Mat... be the way here in Australia is much cheaper then rivals.... + you get V6 engine...
Matt - Don't think this is a fair review.
Try the jiggling test on the VW Arteon, Audi A4 and the Merc C-class and you have the same issue.
Plus the lower plastics on the C-class/A4/3-series are similarly hard.
You make fair points but the relativities are off, per above. As it is, this comes across as a hatchet job more than an objective review.
Danny Lim I agree
Agree 100%: don't care about Kia or ANY other car manufacturer but have he tried a similar "test" on any other car? Am I wrong? Ok, tell me...
I have an Audi and the centre console doesn’t wobble like that’s at all!
Shobin Drogan if he can do that it quite possible it’ll be something that will rattle or squeak or both, maybe not now but in the future.
NZsarge1 Then he should've done that wobble test on every single car he's in. This is the first time I'm seeing him yank the center console on a car like that. He's never even do it on an economy car before.
Got the V6 and love it. I've owned it three months and every week I get a comment about how good or smart it looks with people asking what it is! Wouldn't get that in a 440i or S5!
Who's here after Doug bought his Stinger?
That was quick. Me too.
yeah
I want one now lol
😂 😂 me 🤦♂️and I literally just got the red 2019 stinger GT limited, 5 days ago and, I’m still here watching Stinger videos everyday lol 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️
Lol, same here
He is just plain lying about the rear seat room. Audi A5 Sportback is 3/4 scale of the Kia in back. ALL such cars in this category have sloping roof and compromised rear headroom, Kia is no better or worse. But legroom, knee room and width are just simply a step UP in the Kia, not a step down- the Audi is just plain more cramped, not less cramped. And try that "grab the center stack and shake it" in the next BMW 3 series you drive and watch it flex.
Maybe not lying but mistaken
"It doesn't have the German quality", well, that is a good thing because it won’t break down twice a year and even if it did, it won’t cost a fortune. German quality…
SammyT Japanese cars surely are reliable for the latter
No one is sure what the reliability will be on this Stinger. It’s all new technology for KIA. Don’t speak so soon.
"German reliability" is such an oxymoron. I've been there and learned the hard way😂
Quality and reliability are not the same
This seems like an RWD car with build quality/design/materials of an economy car. It’s good for a Korean car, but that’s about it.
I dont know why people dislike KIA so much. I had 3 KIA's during my lifetime and it never had any problems and that 7 year warranty is amazing. I had the old first gen Kia Sportage then I changed to the second gen and I gave that car away to my girlfriend and bought a Sorento. So far no problem
Dudes not even 6' complaining about 6'4".... LMAO 😂😂
This the first review I haven't enjoyed. It seemed that you had gone in to it to do nothing but fine a reason to dislike it. So biased.
another biased viewer... Matt did praise hard on Stinger's handling and sporty look of it, what you guys want is Matt saying Stinger is the best fastback saloon in the market isn't it lol
He is a Matthole
thinmichael1 Stop eating the reviewer’s ass. He is biased, compared to his other vids.
I do not know where the evidence for some of your claims come from Matt. The Kia Stinger has a 23.3 cubic feet trunk whilst the BMW 4 series Gran Coupe, you quote as being larger, only has 17. Please check your facts if you are going to give consumer advice.
John
who the fuck puts a signature on youtube comments
@@Kylirr Hahahahahahhahahahahaha
@@Kylirr lol... you expected something more when you hit that " Show more "
4:44 How come he doesn't grunt and complain about having to reach in to lower the rear seats in the A5 like he does in this Kia? Should watch his A5 review right after this one. Totally biased. I think he's sore that Kia entered this realm.
He just said you have to reach in.quit complaining
Who really cares it’s just a car review. It is not like he is biased against black and white people.. it’s a car brand.
In depth POV review 👉 ua-cam.com/video/4xynnu8atMk/v-deo.html
This car is amazing value for its money.
Why would you make it sound as it has the similar price as S5? 10K isn't a small difference in my book, even for a 40K car.
Yeah, you can compare baseprice audi vs range topping kia a bit better, but that doesn't make much sense either
nemanja milosevic ur hot
Yea, and he shouldn't be comparing it to the 4 GC in the first place, since the Stinger (4830) is 19,2cm longer than the Gran Coupe (4638).
To get even a nice S5 it's options cost a shit ton. To get a loaded Stinger it's about 52K. To get a loaded S5 it's 70k+
Been following Matt since his carbuyer days...But this review really put me off...This is such a biased review and not a standlone review but felt more like promotion video of german brands like AUDI and BMW. And no I am not defending KIA. I drive BMW myself but credit has to be given where its due!!
Quit complaining
He’s comparing them to bmw and audi because there the rivals to the stinger he’s using them as an example
He did not get £££££ from Kia in his pocket i think! :) BMW did! :)
@Nagato is better than Punk Naruto Well sir, im shure you know more about cars than i do, i mean i had my first car not far away, ist was 1972 and it was an Amerikan car Dodge Dart - 65. I been driving lot of cars since then so i talk nonsense, i know! In my country where i born we have only 3 Formula 1 World Champions and in Rallye only about 15 of them! You have more im shure! Im old racedriver my self!
I’ve got a 2015 Sonata and the engine blew up at 42,000 miles despite changing the oil every 3,000 to 5,000 miles.
pardon my french but,
HOLY FUCK KIA MADE A CAR LIKE THIS?!
Sporty, good looking, practical (somewhat) and rear wheel drive?! sign me up! :D
Next time when you review any car, pls shake test the center tunnel and steering!
Bought a GT AWD Limited. Excellent performance , features, refinement, and value. In Canada, an S5 or 440i GC costs $20K more!
swansea007791 Hey mate. Here's my Stinger and both Lexus RC F and IS I traded for it 😉 stingerforum.org/threads/would-you-trade-in-a-lexus-rc-f-and-is-for-a-stinger-gt-limited.1157/
I didn’t realize how much I like Doug’s reviews till now
Taking nothing from Bmw/Audi or Mercedes I really think kia are up there , they make there cars really well if not better than the Germans and I know that after owning both a kia and an Audi.
And far more affordable. I'd pick a Telluride over an endeavour or an x8 or a GLS anyday. Just Korean engineering making a new class of Asian muscle.
It’s just a Kia
It's no M, RS or AMG competitor obviously, but definitely a better deal than it's S5 and 440i counterparts.
Tom you think this can beat an s5? Is that a joke
+Joshua I did not say such a thing. I said it's better than the S5 and 440i, not that it beats them. It's slightly slower than the Audi and a bit faster than the BMW but I still think the Stinger is the better deal.
Stinger starts at 38k, vs Audi at 54k and bmw at 50k. And then you'll need to add the necessary options.. we all know the germans are going to be well above 60k in the end.
If you like this car, wait 18 months, and buy a low mileage used Stinger...and save half. There’ll be plenty available too.
golfbuddy1969 we need more people like you in the world
H DOLLAR hahaha! Just trying to save some folks some $$$$.
to buy used one is not the same as new one ;) I highky recommend to experience buying a car with 0 miles ;) you will be amazed how you will feel ;)
Can you explain why this would happen?
As a Korean, this guy reminds me of how far we still need to go..
Apologies.. We aren't all like that!!! ... I'd have the kia any day... :)
I saw one of these on holiday recently , and thought wow what’s that!
Never seen you review a car and bring the price of its rival up on the car wow website.
Very biased, Big thumbs down for me.
Man I think people should shortlist it. it's such a brilliant car looks so fine and also it's so practical and those 7 years warranty is such a great bargain. thank you for the amazing information.
Doug Demuro does a more unbiased review of that car. The KIA stigma has to be gone to make a real review because this is actually a great car! For the price and all the equipment it has, I´d go for one of these with no problem! KIA is a brand that is not falling behind!! I have a KIA Forte for 4 years now and I think, for the price I paid, it's an incredible car, well built even.
Gabriel Gramiscelli Motor Trend also did a great review which Randy did.
didn´t see that one, I´m checking it out
I felt like you reviewed it less and compared it more with bmw merc and audi 🤣
it reaches the level to be compared to an audi A7 than this car must be so good.
@@KSA21Geladettor but he was pointing out the cons rather then pros
@@asadshaikh7860 I know he is biased and un r e l e i b l e .. the point of my comment that if this car wasn't a great car, it wouldn't be compared to an AUDI A7 .
The reason I watch your channel is because, you are probably the only host who doesn't get carried away by the brand of the car you are reviewing and gets under the skin of it to find out all the "GOODS" and "NOT SO GOODS". Simply amazing. Can you also review bigger vehicles too?
Mat, 24.7 mpg is much nearer to 25 than 24. You do this a lot in your reviews, and was wondering why you feel the need to do this?
rafflesnh because it doesn't matter that much tbh, 1mpg won't make a big difference
I cocked up when doing the bit to camera - just looked down quick and read the first number. Sometimes rounding while driving aint easy. And really what's 0.7mpg? Not gonna change anyone's opinion. It seems there is a lot of love out there for this car - and I understand it - Kia has been brave and done a good job. But let's see the sales figures, cos really it doesn't matter how many car fans like this car - if people don't end up buying it in decent numbers that positive opinion counts for zip. Take the Toyita GT86 as an example. Everyone loved it...apart from actual carbuyers so in the end it's been a bit of a sales flop. I'm here to advise car buyers, and how they should spend their money.
carwow Ford Escort sold lots was still a shit car lolol, sales figures only tell you so much.
That journos such as me as a waste of time....Maybe it's time to resign and go back to being a chartered accountant.
So much praise for the Germans and especially Audi. Let Kia enjoy it's moment.
My dad works at Kia and I was the first kid to ride in it in Australia
It’s a bit sad that they won’t make another one😢
PhreshFunk 🤦♂️🤦♀️
I'm gonna get this car
Great Choice
buy an Audi come on
@Air Koryo I love it, the driving is very smooth, I love the the sporty feel of the suspensions and the handling, I have yet to find anything I dislike to be honest, real head turner too not many of these bad boys you see in the streets
@@RSguideX congrats on this nice car man👍
@@Jan-wz9dq Thanks!
You’re comparing the base price of the Audi s5 sportback with the top of the range Kia, that’s an unfair comparison.
That's because GT is the performance so compare to an S5 base model is the correct move. A base GT is nothing but a piece of junk like the Kia Optima. So I don't know why you want to like the Kia more than an already establish luxury sport coupe like the Audi S5. This Kia is clearly a step up from your normal Kia, but that doesn't mean they're better than German cars that's been working their magic for the past decade in Motorsport industry. Kia can try, but they will always be a cheap solution to something else better. Come back and read this in 10 years, Kia will still be granny cars.
Yes. He compares the DISCOUNTED Base level Audi. But the Audi does have the class trailing 3 year warranty.. Ahem.....biased review all round..
re AutoBum
The most expensive Stinger in UK - 41,140 GBP
Basic S5 Sportback in UK - 49,495.00 GBP
If you add stuff you already have in 41k Stinger, S5 is 57,500.00 GBP. 41k vs. 57,5k. thats the point, its not that close, so trashing Stinger in video for pricing is lame.
R1S0 well if you say tat big difference, in Australia that more like stinger gt 60k and base S5 mid 110, you can have stinger plus A4
BBBBBBBBBBBefw but you still have that goddamn engine warranty lmao
As a matter of fact, the Stinger has a lot of "German" in it. It is designed by Peter Schreyer and was engineered by Albert Biermann from BMW.
Autodevot yes! And it was built by KIA! It could have been designed by the Pope, but it does not mean it will become automatically celestial. 😉
I was about to say that, also a lot of the engineering team were poached from Peugeot. I love how people are saying "look at Kia now, they are now rivalling the Germans", yet most of the car is designed and engineered by Germans.
The thing about Kia is that they hire German car engineers, pay them twice as much and fire them when they don’t need them anymore. True story
Martin Ssempa are you one of the fired engineers???
fancy O no my mom works as a doctor in a expat clinic and once got a client who works for Lexus and he had some colleagues who were hired by Kia together with some Germans who were all fired after a few years
If you told me 3-4 years ago I'd be owning a Kia I'd have laughed at you. But I now own a new Sorento and I'm wanting a Stinger. I've owned Audi and BMW in the past. Kia are the most progressive manufacturer, much better than the bigger companies. Well done Kia.
I like this car, it looks much better than the current boring German cars (as good as they may be). The German car market seems to be aimed towards the older generation as far as looks go. However the German cars still seem to be popular. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Matt - Disappointing effort here. I love your channel, but not a big fan of you as a hatchet man.
My family owns a E class, a C-class and an A4. None would pass the jiggling test, and all have hard plastics on the bottom half. Material quality wise, Stinger is pretty much on par, at least with the C-class/A4 and better than the XE.
Where the Stinger loses out is in the coherence of the interior design, which does not have the same consistency in concept as the Germans. Also, the small touches like (for the A4) the virtual cockpit, the one touch lights, the capacitative buttons etc make a big difference in overall feel.
On the flip side, the Stinger is faster than the 440i/S5 and on par with AMG C43.
So there are definitely pros and cons. You have highlighted most of the cons, manufactured some fake relativities, and pretty much did not mention any of the pros from a relativity perspective.
You can do better Matt. Don't need to be an advertisement for the big 3.
Doug Demuro made a review for this car and it's a lot better and realistic than this one.
Very well said, lack of objectivity is an issue in this vid....
Zoltan Varga As if his other reviews don't suffer from the same sponsored subjectivity.
Meni Fo He's pretty entertaining, I'll give him that. And when he's comparing Euro to Euro, he's generally quite objective and fair.
Danny Lim How fair is it to compare the price of an A5 after the discount with that of the Stinger before the discount?
I love your reviews Matt! But you said the Kia Stinger Gt S is the same price as an Audi S5 sportback. It is not. According to their websites, the S5 is at least 9000 pounds more expensive. Let's be fair.
+John Holst watch the vid.... With carwow discounts they work out the same!
And the Audi has the same spec? Who is to say you cannot get some discount on the Kia and it has a 7 year warranty
@@johnfrench9608 now you're just being biased. He explain that the price can be the same and you argue more about the warranty & equipment? That'a exactly what you're considering when you buy a car in term of price.
carwow yeah not specd the same, and why not look for discount on Kia?
@@carwow Now add the gadge to an A5!!!!!!!!!! and add that extra warranty!!!. THEN stick the Stinger into Carwow. FAKE NEWS!
When he does popular luxury car reviews he goes through very patiently and take his time to analyse but if a low brand car he is just like blah blah blah. That’s it thank you for watching.
Cool. Thanks for the detailed review!
Every part of the review had to mention, "Comes standard... IN A KIA?!?" as though it were a surprise that other brands can make decent sports cars. No, a Kia is not an Audi A5 Sportback, but the car has its own merits and I feel like this particular review couldn't get past the brand-snobbery.
FrenchCrazy Name another Kia that has been made that has the credentials of the Stinger. If you can’t understand that this is a game changer for the brand, and he was using artistic licence to illustrate this with his comments “in a KIA?” then I suggest you touch up on your comprehension skills a tad.
Cris L they’ve been making great value cars for years now. Even as far back as the mk2 carens you got more than you paid for, and even the option of a merc engine. The pro-cee’d gt was fantastic from the start, the optima looks fantastic and in some markets could be optioned with that v6. This isn’t a game ‘changer’ as such, just another improvement to their perpetual growth
kind of agree. Highlighting too much of the very few defects and not enough of the pros such as the 7 years warranty (briefly mentioned) or the fact that it comes with everything in pretty much. There are only a few secondary options. So to be fair the price comparison should have been made with all options in for the Audi as well.
we don't buy cars anymore, we buy brands and image to ourselfs
That’s a sad fact
Saw an orange one in Sydney. Looked amazing
I sat in one today. Not gonna lie it’s surprisingly nice. The wheel raises up and down automatically making it easy to get in and out. My dream car has been the Audi A5 Sportback but this i can get a dual turbo V6... decisions decisions. Also maintenance is more affordable
Schreyer was born in 1953 in Bad Reichenhall, Bavaria, West Germany[5] and began studying in 1975 at the Munich University of Applied Sciences (Fachhochschule München - Industrie Design).[5] He worked with Audi first as a student in 1978,[5] graduating in 1979 with his Industrial Design degree. Subsequently, Schreyer won the Audi Scholarship to study at the Royal College of Art, London from 1979-1980 as a transportation design student.[5]
In 1980, Schreyer began working with Audi in exterior, interior and conceptual design. In 1991, he moved to the company's design studio in California.[5] He returned to the Audi Design Concept Studio in 1992, and the following year moved to Volkswagen exterior design department.
Schreyer is known for wearing all black clothing, black eyeglasses designed by Philippe Starck,[9] and for his "competitive, inventive and analytic" nature.[9]
A GERMAN DESIGNED THE CAR SO WHATS THE DEAL ABOUT YOU SAYING GERMANS DO MUCH BETTER IN DESIGN AND QUALITY?
It doesn’t have the German quality, but it also doesn’t have the German price tag either
Actually it is
It does actually...
why is that so expensive in UK. Australia has much less price. top range only just 60,000 AUD
At least it doesn't goes bang when the warranty runs out.
50 thounds is Benz money and the quality screams $35,000.
I just took delivery of mine today. It’s not perfect but it certainly doesn’t have much of the problems Matt says there are. Furthermore, the drivers seat automatically moves to the furthest position when you open the door to get out. It doesn’t move back forward until a driver sits in the seat and then closes the door. Hence why Matt feels so cramped in the back - the seat is pushed the furthest back
Forget about the name; the Stinger is a great car and was actually made by BMW engineers allegedly porched by Kia.
I've never seen you manhandle the console in the beloved German cars. And many of those have scratchy plastics down low, which seem to get less comment than here. How about the warranty difference?
My f10 5 series bmw center console did the same thing he's very biased in this review
Love korean cars. Reliable, well equipped cars that are worth the money. German fanboys, why are your builders still at the bottom of the reliability rankings ?
bullshit, Kia is still the top 5
just got recommended to me after Doug got his lol 😂
facts
Nobody cares.
You certainly got a huge response from your report on this car. In fact it seems this car has had more airplay on UA-cam than any car recently, if not more. Of course one can find faults, but overall it’s attractive, powerful, comfortable, and affordable.
So the car is a riot, plenty of fun, has good driving dynamics but you only "consider" it? Also a lot cheaper but I suppose it's different in all the markets, a Stinger is only 50k$ while an S5 is 75k$ in Canada, both fully loaded. Talk about a bargain.
No matter what you say about it and laughing at it .... still it's better than any other British car in something called ((((((( durability ))))))))
I really like the level of detail with which you examine the car
I noticed there were a couple extra drive modes on the car, smart and eco, what do they do to the car? I presume eco improves mpg so maybe you’d get closer to the stated figure in that rather than comfort?
Great review as always, keep the videos coming 😊
I was expecting alot better from you Matt. Why are journalists impressed that kia do good cars now?
They have been doing it for more thsn 10 years with the ceed, sportage and soul. Don't you guys go to auto shows?
Matts right for criticising the car people are going to be paying £30 000 for a car with shitty build quality, handling and interior of it wasn’t for it
So while others are comparing this kia to a porsche panamera v6 and a bmw 640i gran coupe, in 4 aspects (0-60 acceleration, cornering, slalom and closed course lap) the kia stinger won 2 of them over the porsche being second and the porsche won the other 2 over the kia, whilst bmw finished 3rd on all 4 of these aspects, you are trying to tell us that this car is only considerable and still not as good as the bmw 4series or the audi 5 sports... Even tho the panamera and the bmw 640i gran coupe both stand around 90k and the kia is only 40... And another question, i never saw you punch or try to move around the dashboard in a mercedes/audi/bmw, why did u do that to the kia ? It is so obvious that in this review you are favoring the germans brand just based on the fact that u like the brands more.. Nothing objective here because this stinger, for that price, blows them both away... Just saying
Exactly, i've heard so much great stuff about this car, i looked over the reviewes, even in Matt's review where he is clearly trying to give advantage to the German brands, the Kia look fantastic it's just very noticable that he prefers the German brands and won't give this Kia the credit it deserves, the car is practically a bagrain compared to the Germans, for what it has to offer... Not to mention the cars performance, which i actually did in the comment above, mind blowing..
I have a 2019 GT2 and neither the center console or steering wheel cover move like that. They are both solid.
Very thorough review and you've pointed out some negatives I've not seen from other reviews. Can't believe the wheel nut cover can easily be removed.
It can't be easily removed. He had already loosened it for that shot.
Hi mat we can tell what cars you like if it’s not a bmw or a 3 pointed star it’s no good. Most other magazines rave the stinger and as for the car wow price comparison of the Audi try doing the same with the Kia stinger and you will find the price gap will be the same about £8000. And what’s more the Kia will be a hell of a lot cheaper to service and run. Finally it would make a lot better used buy than the other two cars with its 7 year warranty.
Errr What Car 3/5 (same as my review) Top Gear 6/10 same as my review. But yeah some others prefered it. Let's see how well it sells. Ultimately, it's what the buying public think that matters.
carwow What's your opinion of Doug Demuro's review that was uploaded yesterday? His car didn't seem to have the jiggly parts that yours did or either he didn't mention it all.
Stephen clay i keep seeing reviews comparing the stinger with the germans. ITS NOT AND ITS TOTALLY STUPID TO COMPARE IT LIKE THAT. I mean, sure the size of this car is similar to the 5 series and A5 for example, but comapared to those relatively expensive cars this car is just trying to simply be an 'interesting enough alternative' to the germans by being cheaper than them.
Different reviewers take different opinions and do slighlty different angles for their videos. I do buying guides for real car buyers. Now if Doug had wobbled the centre console it would have moved in much the same way. I didn't show how the car had this little turn on sequence graphic, like doug did, as in my opinion, after two days that matters little to an owner - whereas wobbly trim and nasty centre steering wheel hub will bother you all day every day. Finally no one reviewer has the definitive verdict - you have to watch a few and form your own opinion. Afterall Doug hated on the new Honda Civic Type R - but that's gone on to win awards and group tests all over the world.
So poeple won't be thinking - okay I have 44k shall I have this Kia or a BMW?
Kia Stinger : 23.3 cubic feet trunk > BMW 4 series Gran Coupe : 17 cubic feet trunk. This channel can't even get a spec right.
Awfully biased, and definitely biased to the Germans. It actually is more spacious than it's rivals, cheaper, faster. And dare i say it, more reliable than it's German counterparts.
And while he's talking about fake vents. Meanwhile Mercedes-Benz is doing fake vents, exhaust tips, noise pumped thru speakers and stuff. Point them out as well!
Silver Low it’s a fucking Kia, what more do you want him to say? Better than a BMW? He’d lose his job.
He did criticise bmw and audi often for fake exhaust
Tan Trung Nguyen Quoc bmw doesn’t do fake exhausts. That’s Benz and Audi
sowishful i8 buddy has a speaker
German cars have shit reliability the whole world knows that. It's Japan and than Korea when it comes to reliability.
As always amazing review. I want to do the same quality reviews as you do!
I will practice more and one day share nice video review
First time I have been very disappointed with carwow review's fairness and information.
Prejudicial and judgemental even before getting in the car is not how I would expect to see a professional car reviewer.
I hope there will be another chance to review again, without the "but it's a kia" attitude and review the darn car.
shut up
Sj Park This is he first time you are disappointed because this the first time you allowed yourself to see the real picture.
Typically when a Carwow review highlights a car, they focus solely on the car and then create additional videos to look at the head-to-head comparisons. Instead, Matt jumps right out of the gate and spends a good chuck of this video talking about Audi and BMW?
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Can you shake all cars center console in all your nxt videos pls...just that you stay consistent and objective across brands and reviews..
I've seen him shake other cars, they were fine. Stop being butthurt. It's a cheaply made car.
The fitting is still better than Fords, that's German
@@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ but kia fixed it in jan 2018 ;) its now stiff as hell ;)
It's a KIA, what do you expect.
@@titoyolo240 ford isn't german
How much extra is the sunroof, 360 camera, adaptive cruise control, ventilated seats etc. on the S5?
The most Alan Partridge-like car review outside of Alan Partridge - "maybe that one... YES! IT DOES!" :)
You said bmw more times than kia . I thought this is about kia not your hate of anything but germans.
Those who are critical of Mat, I get it, but I do remember an old review of Kia Optima where Mat says it looks as good as a Lexus! I just wish Mat was not critical of the car just because of the brand Kia... It's a common man's BMW!!
6:14 This moment further amplifies my determination that my next car will be this Kia Stinger 3.3 :) I now have a 2013 Kia Optima.
8:25 It's not artificial sound, but the actual sound of the engine picked by microphones and amplified slightly through the sound system.
In Australia the top spec Stinger V6 RWD (no AWD here) cost less than a base model A5... Just a little cheaper than the A4 2.0TFSI FWD. Here the Stinger prices around the mid to top spec Passat.
How much is it mate
Mat, that Audi with the same kit as Stinger cost like 20 000 pound more. Unfair comparison.
Doupik rather have base S5 than Full equipped Stinger IMO
Well, 440i GC is the German choice I would go for here, but as both BMW and Kia owner, I would not have problem buying Stinger, you would save much more on the running costs too.
Oscar Dominguez lol german cars are not what they used to be 10 or more years ago! Koreans are kicking their ass with reliability and cheap maintenance
Good point. That apples and oranges price comparison with an Audi was utterly shameless. Does VAG advertising fund CarWow or is this just Matt's prejudice?
Mat I thought you going to throw the parcel shelf into the bushes LOL
Here in Australia, you have to throw suitcases of money at Mercedes, BMW or Audi to get anything close to the Stinger. You'd be looking at $100,000 for something comparable.
I didn't know Kia had so many fans.
with subjective comments towards the review haha they sounds like they've driven the Stinger for a few years lol
Would you please make the same "shaking" test on central console in BMWs, Audis or Mercedes? Never saw you do it before, so now I think it is mandatory on next reviews.
if he shakes it on German cars it would break or crack
It doesn’t shake! Well mine doesn’t. 😉
Test drove Stinger. There is slight movement when you push really hard but i wouldnt be concerned no ones gonna push it like that
ua-cam.com/video/MCgZYhX9QnM/v-deo.html Boi. Look at what he made for you! :-)
Just bought a GT and found his review to be horribly biased. The GT has more features and a better feeling of luxury than a Mercedes C300 (AMG kitted) that I drove.
It's funny how Mat showing the wobbly bits of the interior put me off this car so much, right at the start of the video.