i saw this movie in the cinema when it came out in 1980. people left speechless, it really disturbed everyone. i hugged my family and my lovely wife extra tightly and swore never to even loose my temper, but then i realised they didn’t exist and i wasn’t even born until almost three decades later.
Reminds me of the time I was skiing in France and this guy came up to me to see what was up ....and then in 1992 Undertaker threw Stone cold through the table at WWF Hell in the cell...or something like that
To be fair, The Stanley Hotel, which is the place the Overlook is loosely based on, sits right next to Rocky Mountain National Park, which gets massive amounts of summer traffic, and very little in the winter because the park is covered in human heights of snow. And the nearby mountains are not good skiing terrain. Either too steep or not steep enough.
4:35 “Danny escapes through the window but Wendy doesn't fit. By the way, I was thinking we could cast Shelley Duvall as Wendy”. “Isn’t she incredibly thin?” “She is, yes” “So…why wouldn't she fit through the window?” “Uhh…(checks script)…ghosts?” “Works for me!”
@@Dubstone The first sentence is literally the only part of their comment that's in the video. Trying to be sarcastic while also being that wrong is incredibly embarrassing.
unfun fact: Rob Ager a lot of instructive videos regarding Kubrick films, one of which addresses this scene. Earlier when Danny is being checked by a doctor, his pants are down to his ankles while holding on to a light tan bear doll. When Jack is waiting to see Ulman, he is reading a Playgirl magazine which had an article talking about pedophilia with parents. The old man is getting fellatio from the yellow bear because Wendy is seeing her fear that "the old man" (a slang term for dads) is getting oral sex from Danny.
The outside of the overlook is actually the Timberline Lodge in Oregon. There is extensive skiing. I'm glad you pointed out how odd that was that they closed during the winter. 😂
100% agree with what King himself says about this movie: it's fucking whack. No ideia why it is so praised without invoking Olympic tier levels of mental gymnastics.
@@NicholasHEADSHOTI prefer the movie all the way. A lot of the book I can’t take seriously like Danny being attacked by hedge animals or the hotel literally being alive. To each his own though
"It's gonna be iconic" I've never seen the tonight show and have never seen this movie in its entirety. Yet somehow, since childhood, I have known about the "Here's Johnny!" line and have quoted it numerous times.
I haven't read the book in about 25 years, but wasn't Jack Torrance also a recovering alcoholic in the book and wasn't he violent with Danny? The difference in the book is that he's portrayed as remorseful and trying to be a better person. I would hardly call him a "family man" though.
Basically that. He's hot-headed, even before the alcohol, but he's trying to better himself for his family. In the book, he goes from about a 4 to a 10 in intensity before having a redemption arc. Basically, he's a stand-in for King himself. The problem I have with the movie is Jack already starts unhinged at an 8 and then dials it up to 11.
No you are right. It’s actually pivotal to the story in the book. I means it’s fine because this is a Pitch Meeting and Ryan is making jokes. But (spoilers): In the book Jack is torn up about his past and trying to fix things with Wendy for Danny. He lost his teaching job because of his alcoholism and assaulting a student. He couldn’t find any work and was desperately in need of a job. He was also wrestling with the pain he inflicted on Danny by breaking his arm. But he thought that the job at the hotel would be a fresh start. No alcohol, and time to work on the book he always wanted to write. That’s why he comes off as a “family man “ in the start of the book. But the evil forces of the hotel bring out all of the worst, hidden memories of his mind and torment them. He also is tormented by the memories of his abusive father, and now he is becoming like his father. So yes it was all in there but he had been trying to improve… until the hotel brought out all the worst of him again.
I almost didn’t click on this one because I didn’t want The Shining to get ruined for me. But, apparently my appreciation for these pitch meetings outweighs my appreciation for films I’ve enjoyed for years. Wow wow wow!
To this day, the bear costume ghost fellating the guy in a tux is the most unsettling moment in the entire film for me. There's just something that is so deeply disconcerting about how it catches you off guard. And the way they stare directly out of the room into camera. I would be scared out of my mind if I suddenly saw that in a hotel where I thought it was just me and my family.
@@KiraMahMan I find it a bit funny too, but it feels a little like a defense mechanism. Like I'm instinctively laughing just to avoid being weirded out.
I think that The Shining is a perfect example of both the book and the film adaptation being great on their own merits, even though they are so different from each other. King's book is a deep look into a psyche, an exploration of ghosts- literal and figurative. Kubrick's film explores silence, space, isolation, boredom, and its effects on the human psyche. The middle third of the film is the spookiest part, and practically nothing even happens! The end, when all the ghosts really come out, and the blood starts flowing, and Jack is on his rampage, is almost a relief after all the tension! They're very different in many ways, but they fit their own mediums perfectly. I wouldn't change a thing about either one.
0:55 The Shining is my favorite horror movie but it took until this video to notice how insane it is that a huge hotel in the Rockies that would be perfect for skiing shuts down during the winter. Yeah, Ullman, those chumps up in Aspen, Veil, and Steamboat don't know how much money they're losing by plowing the roads to let the armies of tourists come in to spend thousands of dollars each skiing every winter.
The Stanley Hotel (inspiration for The Overlook) was closed every winter until 1983. I'm not sure what changed in 1983 other than it getting more famous due to the movie? I'm not a skier, but maybe not every mountain is ideal for skiing, combined with the length of the road maybe made the infrastructure investment prohibitive.
@@johnandurhil4675 "Not every mountain is ideal for skiing" very true but there's probably a mountain nearby that people could ski on then stay at the hotel. But either way that doesn't answer the question: what DO the guests do there when it's open?
@@JimmyMon666I’m pretty sure walking was a thing back then. There’s this thing called hiking, you know. It’s an ancient tradition of walking paths that lead to beautiful scenery and such. 😂 Cheers.
The face-over fade-out was well done! Thanks, Ryan! The book had a much better denouement, because Dick lived and went on to teach Danny how to use the Shining for good. I hated the part where he died, because it was a great character, and the story was much better with him in it at the end.
There is an in-depth video on that on a channel called Collative Learning. Not sure if the theory presented is the answer you were hoping for, though...
As someone whom has never liked this movie... I was a horror obsesive (have watched hundreds of horror movies from all over the world and read most of the old stephing king's stuff and plenty of other horror books) this pitch meeting has sumarized perfectly what I always thought abot this movie and why never worked for me... great works as always ryan...
You are not alone. Horror junkie, loved the book, couldn't wait for the movie, left with a distinct feeling of having been bamboozled. Although -- as someone else mentioned in these comments -- I did appreciate the Halloran death to mess with fans of the book.
I generally love pitch meetings and am really happy to see Ryan tackling older movies. That said, a lot of the joy usually comes from Ryan keenly pointing out things that most viewers mentally gloss over, which is a lot harder to pull off when it comes to one of the most over-analyzed movies ever.
0:30 small point: he's actually a kind of terrible person in the book. There's a bunch of time spent recalling how he broke the son's arm, among other things.
That’s the main criticism of the movie from king. In his book jack goes crazy from the isolation and his own mind, and the movie shows the hotel turning him crazy.
@@brianconuel1448 well, not exactly. I think the reason King hates the Kubrick adaptation is because the movie depicts Jack as almost beyond redemption. If Jack was the avatar for King himself (as he was addicted to cocaine and had violent outbursts against his own wife at times), King felt that Kubrick was saying that he was an irredeemable POS. In the book, Jack redeems himself by sacrificing himself to save his family, by blowing up the boiler and destroying the hotel (which King has admitted to riffing off of the finale of *Jaws).* In the movie, Jack dies a lonely death, frozen (and thus locked in) and forever a part of the Overlook, as the photo either implies that Jack was always there (a reincarnation of a previous soul, forever to come back) or he is now trapped in the hotel with the other souls.
In the book, Stephen King tells us Jack is genuinely sorry and trying to overcome his issues and we have no choice but to believe him, since it's his story. In the movie, Jack tells us he's genuinely sorry and trying to overcome his issues and no one believes him for a second, since that's what abusive people always say.
Yeah, he sucks, but un the book, fir the most lart he really tries being a good father, he has massiv anger issues and is lretty diagusting in how he views wendy fir setteling for him while also finding her jit good enough an such.... But in the book there was a genuine fight between him and the hitel and him and his worse aspects while in the movie he is one dementional. Book jack saves danny from the hotel even after it posessed him and feed into all his worst instincts move jack.... Hell nope. Jack was always messed up but he tried
I saw this in theaters back in the day. It scared the daylights out of me. Jack's frozen smile at the end was the perfect ending. The bear thing was disturbing.
it just looked to me like he was rolling his eyes in the end and made me laugh. the rage dv type stuff was scary, nothing else in the whole movie. Shelly Duval needed to cue reactions otherwise the whole thing is just well, nothing. every change from the book was awful and the parts they kept in weren't done well. anyone who has see hereditary can see more shat jacks possession is supposed to be like once she obliterates her own features, which Jack does in the book. I feel it would've done much better if they just cut out almost All of the 'supernatural' especially the overdone parts and just left you suspenseful. oh well.
@@user-wi9hv2pb2q Sorry, you feel The Shining, one of the most revered and enduring ghost films of all time, 'would've done much better' with 'almost all the supernatural bits' cut?
“Also I figured that Jack could say a line like ‘Heeeeeeere’s Johnny!” “Amazing. I could see that being parodied so many times, people are gonna get sick of it!”
It's also funny that people watching the shining now, having missed Johnny Carson, don't actually get where that came from, so now when others say "Heeeere's Johnny" they just think it's from The Shining.
I hated the movie even before reading the book. I watched it as a kid and wasn't remotely scared by it and knew it was a pretentious creation of Kuprick in order to stroke his own ego (and probably penis). The fact that so many people glue their lips to Kuprick's ass definitely got him off while he was alive.
Actually the movie is a stand-alone masterpiece (so brave of me to say that, I know). Point is, they tried to make the original story into a TV series with King's full support (who hated Kubrick's version) but it failed miserably.
@@ladrac198 If you get a chance to watch the miniseries give it a try...it's so much better than this joke of a movie. King wrote the teleplay; Steven Weber was Jack & Rebecca De Mornay was Wendy. To be able to make it King had to agree, in writing, to stop his public criticizing Kubrick's movie.
Hot Take: As soon as Stuart tells Jack (a writer) about the murders involving the former caretaker Jack begins creating a story based on it with his family used as characters. From there on out the movie begins blending Jack's story with Jack's reality until the movie we are watching is completely Jack's new book idea. This applies to the movie only (not King's book). This explains why static elements in the movie (stickers on Danny's bedroom door, chairs, typewriters, etc.) change (otherwise inexplicably) in the movie. They are different in Jack's reality versus the world of his book.
That's an interesting take. It reminds me of the movie "Swimming Pool" with Charlotte Rampling, where a frustrated writer spends a summer alone in her publisher's villa in Provence. Immediately, a drama ensues, although *SPOILER ALERT* the entire sexy and bloody story may very well be her own imagination, and the plot of the book she ends up writing down there.
Stephen King said he liked the 1997 mini series better cuz it was more true to his novel. But i watched it and clearly Stanley Kubrick cannot be beaten.
@@Sartheris Can't have plot holes if there isn't a plot. However I'd argue not using the hotel in winter is a major plot hole lol. Makes literally no sense. We even see that it is possible to get there in winter
Isn't that basically what these videos all are? With exception that sometimes you may not have noticed particular problems yourself yet. I don't think he's trying to find novel and unheard of plot holes to make jokes about. He goes onto reddit or something, finds a thread about plot holes in whatever film he doing, takes notes and writes a script around it. The inconsistencies are already there for anyone to see and have already been spotted. Basically you are saying "wow, i noticed those plot holes too, i must be psychic!"
@@jordanstark5924possible to get there in the winter using a snowcat. That's not exactly common transportation. It's possible to fly a helicopter to an Alaskan field station, that doesn't make it prime for tourists. That's not a plot hole, it isn't even related to the plot, it's at worst an implausible setup. But as someone else described in another comment, that hotel does exist, and it does shut down in the winter, because the terrain isn't ideal for skiing compared to alternative resorts that would be competing with. So obviously it's entirely possible and plausible, never mind a plot hole. Even if it wasn't there are a ton of reasons why a hotel would not find it financially viable to invest a bunch of money into developing a ski resort and keeping the roads clear all winter, for a potential financial gain that might not happen. You have to get the money to develop it, and pay interest on it until the profits come in. There are dozens of other resorts available, and if yours is in the end of a 12 mile mountain road that requires constant plowing to keep open all winter, and which is impassible while it's snowing (the best time to be skiing), most people will go somewhere easier to reach. And the other resorts won't have the added expense of paying a fleet of plows to keep the long road as open as possible. We have a bunch of failed ski resorts around here that went out of business, because it's hard to attract enough customers to be profitable, and those were all on highways. Now there are only a handful left and they manage to get by on the number of customers divided between them.
Movie Danny beat his father with his knowledge of Looney Tunes. The show is on in the background every time Danny watches TV and he uses Road Runner-like tactics of running, evasion and deception to defeat his father, who meets a Coyote-like fate.
Woulda been funnier if Jack Nicholson had constructed an elaborate system of chutes to deliver a spherical bomb into Danny’s path, only to hold the bomb for a moment too long and blow himself up.
This was excellent. I’m always amused by these videos but this one was extra satisfying. I love The Shining book and it has always bugged me so much that the movie portrayed Jack as already horrible so he had no arc. And then such a silly death by freezing when he dies kinda heroically in the book. Stephen King did his own version of the movie, it’s very long but stays true to the book.
@@danavixen6274 It was an improvised line by Mr. Nicholson himself, specifically like the Carson announcement. I'm sure you already knew that though :)
I'll bet Ryan could really sink his teeth into the super-boring final scene at the police station that no one wants to remember. Where they explain everything we already knew in excruciating detail. Long, useless explanations are TIGHT.
One of my favorite mini-gags is the constant reminder by Producer Guy that skeletons are spooky. He says it just about every time and it always gets me.
My absolute favorite is when Writer Guy mentions people being turned into skeletons and Producer Guy excitedly yells “those are from Halloween!” It took me a second to get it bc I thought he was talking about the movie Halloween? But no he just meant like, the holiday decor. I lost my sh!t 😂
Oh my gosh, I was not ready for you making fun of the cross fade while people are still talking and then actually doing it in the pitch meeting immediately after. Dead 🤣🤣🤣
It's brilliant, because I've always wondered this too. What are people supposed to do on that remote mountaintop? Hike, I suppose, but that's not everybody's thing. At least the Stanley Hotel (where some of the movie is filmed) is located down in Estes Park, CO (I stayed there once), where a tourist has all kinds of interestiong options. The Overlook never seemed all that attractive to me as a destination.
Mountain resorts used to be extremely popular summer retreats, they were considered to be healthy and a place for city folks to go relax for the summer. They were the big thing from the 1870s though the 1920s but there were still plenty of them scraping by in the 1970s. Probably still a few, although they increasingly need to "diversify" and add adventure courses or skiing or outdoors activities to attract customers. But not at all unusual. Going someplace to sit quietly and go for strolls outside and look at the scenery used to be considered a great vacation, getting away from excitement and stress was the whole point.
4:33 - Missed opportunity to say "Not fitting through a small window is tight!"
Bravo!
*Small windows are tight!
*applause*
It's Shelly Duval, she can do it
@@Amira_Phoenix she definitely can now....
Wow, the crossfade while still talking is unsettling. 0:44
It's tight
That's the point.
I think producer guy was trying to say "Ohhhh fading away while I'm trying to finish my sentence is TIGHT"
That was really creepy 😂
Sorry, missed some of what you said because of the crossfade with another comment.
If you’re doing classic 80s horror, please do John Carpenter’s The Thing so we can really have a slideshow from “The Thing You Just Watched”
Nice
Watching The Thing I Just Watched is tight!
That’s my favorite horror film ever. I would love to see him do this!
😂😂
Take my angry upvote.
Making pitch meetings for classics is tight!!!
Unironically
hell yeah! although i do miss ryan dressing era appropriate. where are the afro wigs??
Yeah yeah yeah
...and barely an inconvenience.
3:34 classic Eminem tune
i saw this movie in the cinema when it came out in 1980. people left speechless, it really disturbed everyone. i hugged my family and my lovely wife extra tightly and swore never to even loose my temper, but then i realised they didn’t exist and i wasn’t even born until almost three decades later.
Spoopy
@@lemond2007 do not mock the gods, for they will smite thee.
🤯🍑💨
Did you forget it already? You are the caretaker. You're always been the caretaker, @nepntzerZer
Reminds me of the time I was skiing in France and this guy came up to me to see what was up ....and then in 1992 Undertaker threw Stone cold through the table at WWF Hell in the cell...or something like that
To be fair, The Stanley Hotel, which is the place the Overlook is loosely based on, sits right next to Rocky Mountain National Park, which gets massive amounts of summer traffic, and very little in the winter because the park is covered in human heights of snow. And the nearby mountains are not good skiing terrain. Either too steep or not steep enough.
True. Also when the film was made, they did close for winters. Nowadays it's open around the year.
@vanderful2397 good fun fact.
Cross country skiing is a thing.
Boooo! Don't ruin a good Pitch Meeting joke with facts!! 😉
We got a real mountain Goldilocks over here.
I will never get tired of seeing his backgrounds match the time period of whatever show the Pitch Meeting is for
I've never noticed... Now I'm gonna to go back to other videos to check it out!
Same here 😊
You just blew my mind! 😮🤯
If by background mean just the typewriter/computer… sure.
Typewriter for 70s/80s movies, old Macintosh for 90s movies and a flat monitor for 2000's+
Ryan replicating a cross fade while he was still talking got me. So simple yet hilarious.
Awesome. 0:44
Yes! So true that part was surprising and funny. 😂😂😂
Shit like this is why I stay subbed 😂
"He's yelling Redrum. OMG, the child's an alcoholic too"! My whiskey came out from my nose, I couldnt stop laughing!
That's actually kinda the mistake they make in the book too, though it happens way earlier in the story.
So you’re an alcoholic too! 😊
Hahaha! These comments! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just a little foreshadowing for Danny's future life.
Dude accidentally predicted Danny's whole character arc in the sequel.
Appreciate Ryan always choosing the most unflattering screenshots from the thing we just watched for the slideshow at the end.
This is how i take photos that get praised in the Spider-man games. Usually of the pavement.
that bear is actually pretty flattering.
I laugh at all the screenshot he puts in videos, it's just like when you pause a video at just the right moment to see the person pull a funny face
No TV and no beer make Homer something something
Go crazy?
Well, don't mind if I do!
Urge to kill rising
But don't use it on me between 4 and 5pm, that's Willie's time!
Hell yeah!
“Doing bedroom stuff” was an excelllent way around the situation lol
Yes! Very clever!
And to Stephen King that was disturbing dude.
So disturbing... 😶🌫️
“Oh, disgusting euphemisms are TIGHT!”
"What?" "What was that last thing?" - just the thing you take away from The Shining that stays with you forever and ever.
Honestly I had put it out of my mind until today 😢😢😢
The book adds more lore. Goddamn Stephen King.
@@ExtremeSquared checks out. There was the whole running a train on a little girl in IT 🤷♂️
Stephen King is the Pedo Writer version of Bill Gates.... who's just a Pedo
@wpeniche to be fair, they were all the same age and Beverly is the one with agency as it was her idea to have sex with the rest of the group.
4:35
“Danny escapes through the window but Wendy doesn't fit. By the way, I was thinking we could cast Shelley Duvall as Wendy”.
“Isn’t she incredibly thin?”
“She is, yes”
“So…why wouldn't she fit through the window?”
“Uhh…(checks script)…ghosts?”
“Works for me!”
The ghost of Christmas dinners and candy past.
Wow thanks for writing out the entire script of the video, what would we have done without you?
@@Dubstone
Thanks for taking time out of your busy day to respond to a comment that you yourself said was irrelevant
“Because I really need some tension in this scene.”
@@Dubstone The first sentence is literally the only part of their comment that's in the video. Trying to be sarcastic while also being that wrong is incredibly embarrassing.
I love this channel. 😂
The cross fade transition after commenting on the cross fade transition was hilarious.
5:27 that guy in the bear costume traumatised me as a kid, and I didn't even understand what he was doing
Because his whole thing was cut from the movie.
Creepiest shit ever’d
furries
@@LuisSierra42 I can’t believe The Shining was the first ever live action furry movie ever
unfun fact: Rob Ager a lot of instructive videos regarding Kubrick films, one of which addresses this scene.
Earlier when Danny is being checked by a doctor, his pants are down to his ankles while holding on to a light tan bear doll. When Jack is waiting to see Ulman, he is reading a Playgirl magazine which had an article talking about pedophilia with parents. The old man is getting fellatio from the yellow bear because Wendy is seeing her fear that "the old man" (a slang term for dads) is getting oral sex from Danny.
Love it when you open UA-cam and there's a new pitch meeting just sitting there at the top waiting.
Wow wow wow wow wow.... Wow
The outside of the overlook is actually the Timberline Lodge in Oregon. There is extensive skiing. I'm glad you pointed out how odd that was that they closed during the winter. 😂
I've been to Timberline Lodge multiple times and had no idea. That being said I never saw the movie.
6:07 the missing link between Jack Nicholson and Dicaprio
Lmfao, I paused at the end with that face, found your comment, it is absolute gold!
That's what I thought! Jack has some explaining to do
Both Jacks who need to be defrosted for a sequel.
Well, if any actors were powerful enough to reproduce with another man, it would be those two.
Dude, Before seeing your comment.
I AM STOPPED AT 6:07... AND WAS ACROLLING COMMENTS. AND YOUR COMMENT READ MY BRAIN.
"Oh! A sip of the old Spirit spirit"
*approving nod, applause*
Dickens used this play on words in the last paragraph of "A Christmas Carol," equating never seeing the spirits again with abstinence.
5:48 No matter how many of these I've seen, that last "Wow" still catches me by surprise.
"It's based on a book I glanced at"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Most book readers would probably say that about every on-screen adaptation of something they've read.
100% agree with what King himself says about this movie: it's fucking whack.
No ideia why it is so praised without invoking Olympic tier levels of mental gymnastics.
@@NicholasHEADSHOT Because it's actually better than the book!
@@NicholasHEADSHOTI prefer the movie all the way. A lot of the book I can’t take seriously like Danny being attacked by hedge animals or the hotel literally being alive. To each his own though
Not even close. The movie is closer to a comedy with the level of cheesiness. @@afonsodeportugal
"It's gonna be iconic"
I've never seen the tonight show and have never seen this movie in its entirety. Yet somehow, since childhood, I have known about the "Here's Johnny!" line and have quoted it numerous times.
You should check it out, it’s pretty good.
And that line isn't in the script, it was improvised by Nicholson...
I know about that part mostly from The Simpsons parody (Treehouse of Horror V).
I know a 7yo that knows that quote. they know it from roblox
Memes, Raiden... the DNA of the soul!
Or something.
"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"
"Oh, well he should go play with those ghost girls, they seemed up for it." LOL!!!!!
I haven't read the book in about 25 years, but wasn't Jack Torrance also a recovering alcoholic in the book and wasn't he violent with Danny? The difference in the book is that he's portrayed as remorseful and trying to be a better person. I would hardly call him a "family man" though.
This is 100% correct
Script writer guy only glanced at the novel - so easy to overlook that detail
@@AndyMac131 Pun intended?
Basically that. He's hot-headed, even before the alcohol, but he's trying to better himself for his family. In the book, he goes from about a 4 to a 10 in intensity before having a redemption arc. Basically, he's a stand-in for King himself. The problem I have with the movie is Jack already starts unhinged at an 8 and then dials it up to 11.
No you are right. It’s actually pivotal to the story in the book. I means it’s fine because this is a Pitch Meeting and Ryan is making jokes.
But (spoilers):
In the book Jack is torn up about his past and trying to fix things with Wendy for Danny. He lost his teaching job because of his alcoholism and assaulting a student. He couldn’t find any work and was desperately in need of a job. He was also wrestling with the pain he inflicted on Danny by breaking his arm.
But he thought that the job at the hotel would be a fresh start. No alcohol, and time to work on the book he always wanted to write. That’s why he comes off as a “family man “ in the start of the book.
But the evil forces of the hotel bring out all of the worst, hidden memories of his mind and torment them. He also is tormented by the memories of his abusive father, and now he is becoming like his father. So yes it was all in there but he had been trying to improve… until the hotel brought out all the worst of him again.
I was just watching clips of this movie and Jack Nicholson interviews about Kubrick yesterday, completely randomly. Wow wow wow wow wow… wow.
I think that you might have the Shining. Just remember to still keep an eye open for incoming axes.
Amazing!
Was it really random though?
Or was it....
(the shining)
One too many wow's there. ;)
Using the appropriate number of wows is TIGHT!
1:33 "- That's the name of the book you glanced at...
Made me spit my dinner out that was damned hilarious
I almost didn’t click on this one because I didn’t want The Shining to get ruined for me. But, apparently my appreciation for these pitch meetings outweighs my appreciation for films I’ve enjoyed for years. Wow wow wow!
That terrible movie should have ruined itself for you.
This is a comedy video, not a well researched and thoughtful analysis of the film.
@@englishatheart Someone has bad movie opinions.
@@englishatheartThe Shining is top tier. You have bad taste.
@@englishatheart Man get a life. It’s been less than an hour since the video was uploaded and all you’ve done it bitch under every comment.
To this day, the bear costume ghost fellating the guy in a tux is the most unsettling moment in the entire film for me. There's just something that is so deeply disconcerting about how it catches you off guard. And the way they stare directly out of the room into camera. I would be scared out of my mind if I suddenly saw that in a hotel where I thought it was just me and my family.
"Oh no. They see me..." 😮
You know what's funny though? When you read about it in text, it just sounds comically absurd. 😂
Honestly it just made me laugh when I watched it for the first time
@@KiraMahMan I find it a bit funny too, but it feels a little like a defense mechanism. Like I'm instinctively laughing just to avoid being weirded out.
And Wendy's reaction is the look a mother would make if she walked in on such abuse.
Totally forgot about the bear costume scene....thanks for planting that back in my brain.
That's funny because that scene immediately came to mind when I saw it was a Shining pitch meeting. That and the spooky naked old lady.
0:45 I liked that edit
Business has picked up 😅
Was watching another video , saw the notification for a new pitch meeting, clicked it immediately
You and I think alike. 👍🏾
The superior choice 🗿🍷
Same
i wad watching smiling 2. i am in theater alone.
Barely an inconvenience
Finally learning what actually happens in famous classics via Pitch Meeting is tight!
The video froze at 6:10 and I thought it was just Ryan trolling by showing Jack Nicholson's son's creepy smile for 10 straight seconds.
I'm glad you're going back to old movies.
Making pitch meetings for the same vapid comic book movies over and over is as boring as watching Yet Another Comic Book Movie.
@@Liberty4Ever but making them about old movies is tight!
Yep good idea!
Yeah more classics. I'd love to see Easy Rider on here. Maybe even Citizen Kane if he hasn't done that one already.
Demolition Man needs a pitch meeting.
Ryan sure knows about the sea shells!
Yes please Demolition Man!
I'm at that point where I want every movie I saw to be "pitch meet-ed"
I solemnly second that request!!
... Has one about Buckaroo Banzai been done yet?
I think that The Shining is a perfect example of both the book and the film adaptation being great on their own merits, even though they are so different from each other. King's book is a deep look into a psyche, an exploration of ghosts- literal and figurative. Kubrick's film explores silence, space, isolation, boredom, and its effects on the human psyche. The middle third of the film is the spookiest part, and practically nothing even happens! The end, when all the ghosts really come out, and the blood starts flowing, and Jack is on his rampage, is almost a relief after all the tension! They're very different in many ways, but they fit their own mediums perfectly. I wouldn't change a thing about either one.
The director actually hated the book.
@@Koyasi78 And the author hated the movie.
@@kenpeters3744 in this case I stand with Kubrick. A masterful film.
Practically nothing even happens is a good summation of this film.
That random volume increase at 1:39 though.
0:55 The Shining is my favorite horror movie but it took until this video to notice how insane it is that a huge hotel in the Rockies that would be perfect for skiing shuts down during the winter. Yeah, Ullman, those chumps up in Aspen, Veil, and Steamboat don't know how much money they're losing by plowing the roads to let the armies of tourists come in to spend thousands of dollars each skiing every winter.
The Stanley Hotel (inspiration for The Overlook) was closed every winter until 1983. I'm not sure what changed in 1983 other than it getting more famous due to the movie? I'm not a skier, but maybe not every mountain is ideal for skiing, combined with the length of the road maybe made the infrastructure investment prohibitive.
Hahahahaha
@@johnandurhil4675 "Not every mountain is ideal for skiing" very true but there's probably a mountain nearby that people could ski on then stay at the hotel. But either way that doesn't answer the question: what DO the guests do there when it's open?
@@spencerkindra8822 Mountain biking? Of course that wasn't really a thing in the 70's. But perhaps they just enjoyed the scenery.
@@JimmyMon666I’m pretty sure walking was a thing back then. There’s this thing called hiking, you know. It’s an ancient tradition of walking paths that lead to beautiful scenery and such. 😂
Cheers.
THIS IS WEIRD!!! .... I just finished re-watching The Shining. And he uploads the pitch meeting. WOW!
This is a little worrying.
I'd stay out of hotels and bear costumes for a while if were you.
I just saw it awhile ago in theaters theater. Completely changed my appreciation of it
wow wow wow... wow
he's got the shining!
The face-over fade-out was well done!
Thanks, Ryan!
The book had a much better denouement, because Dick lived and went on to teach Danny how to use the Shining for good.
I hated the part where he died, because it was a great character, and the story was much better with him in it at the end.
Thank you so much for doing a Kubrick film! I requested this about 3 years ago and could not be happier!!!!
"He's excited to be locked up with his family for five months." I'm getting flashbacks to 2020...
I’m still waiting for the remake of this movie set during Covid.
We live in the dumbest timeline.
Five months, a year and a half. Same difference.
To be fair it was easier with the family than alone. Trust me i tried.
@@willvgo2950 seethe
5:24 "What?!" the delivery of this was hilarious. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Spooooky! 👻
@@TheIslandDivision "What was that last thing?"😂😂
Bro, using the crossfade at that moment was editing perfection. Well done
Getting a notification to a new pitch meeting is TIGHT!
"So, what's the deal with Jack being in a selfie in the 1920's"
"I'm not telling"
The crossfade transition while he’s clearly talking was beautiful. Thank you
This video was uploaded 5 minutes ago and there are already over 100 comments...it's a 6 minute video... Great video by the way.
Says a person who doesn't know how UA-cam works...or the pause button.
....The fuck was up with that whole bear situation?!
I'm pretty sure the fuck *is* what was up with the whole bear situation.
There is an in-depth video on that on a channel called Collative Learning. Not sure if the theory presented is the answer you were hoping for, though...
Kinda answered your own question there, fam.
@lnsflare1 Haha you know what? You right. 🤣🤣🤣
@@October_Numbers YOU KNOW WHAT YA....you..... huh. 🤔
Christmas in OCTOBER! He finally pitched my favorite movie!
As someone whom has never liked this movie... I was a horror obsesive (have watched hundreds of horror movies from all over the world and read most of the old stephing king's stuff and plenty of other horror books) this pitch meeting has sumarized perfectly what I always thought abot this movie and why never worked for me...
great works as always ryan...
You are not alone. Horror junkie, loved the book, couldn't wait for the movie, left with a distinct feeling of having been bamboozled. Although -- as someone else mentioned in these comments -- I did appreciate the Halloran death to mess with fans of the book.
I found it slow and tedious
"I glanced at" should be a new catchphrase.
How M.Night made "Last Airbender".
YES! It works for soooo many “adaptions”
Not everything needs to be a catchphrase
For adaptations 😅
@@silvermoon2608 Except for this comment. The irony would amuse me.
Finally!!! I’ve been waiting for a pitch meeting on this for a year!
Cross-fade transitions while people are clearly still talking are tight.
I generally love pitch meetings and am really happy to see Ryan tackling older movies. That said, a lot of the joy usually comes from Ryan keenly pointing out things that most viewers mentally gloss over, which is a lot harder to pull off when it comes to one of the most over-analyzed movies ever.
I was thinking the same thing. Now we need a Pitch Meeting for Room 237…
4:39 Jack Nickalson actually improvised that line while filming so even the writer guy would have been confused
That cross-fade transition while Producer Guy was still talking was supereasy, barely an inconvenience.
0:30 small point: he's actually a kind of terrible person in the book. There's a bunch of time spent recalling how he broke the son's arm, among other things.
That’s the main criticism of the movie from king. In his book jack goes crazy from the isolation and his own mind, and the movie shows the hotel turning him crazy.
@@brianconuel1448 well, not exactly. I think the reason King hates the Kubrick adaptation is because the movie depicts Jack as almost beyond redemption. If Jack was the avatar for King himself (as he was addicted to cocaine and had violent outbursts against his own wife at times), King felt that Kubrick was saying that he was an irredeemable POS.
In the book, Jack redeems himself by sacrificing himself to save his family, by blowing up the boiler and destroying the hotel (which King has admitted to riffing off of the finale of *Jaws).* In the movie, Jack dies a lonely death, frozen (and thus locked in) and forever a part of the Overlook, as the photo either implies that Jack was always there (a reincarnation of a previous soul, forever to come back) or he is now trapped in the hotel with the other souls.
In the book, Stephen King tells us Jack is genuinely sorry and trying to overcome his issues and we have no choice but to believe him, since it's his story.
In the movie, Jack tells us he's genuinely sorry and trying to overcome his issues and no one believes him for a second, since that's what abusive people always say.
@@brianconuel1448 I thought it was the other way around. In the book Jack is essentially possessed by the hotel.
Yeah, he sucks, but un the book, fir the most lart he really tries being a good father, he has massiv anger issues and is lretty diagusting in how he views wendy fir setteling for him while also finding her jit good enough an such.... But in the book there was a genuine fight between him and the hitel and him and his worse aspects while in the movie he is one dementional.
Book jack saves danny from the hotel even after it posessed him and feed into all his worst instincts move jack.... Hell nope.
Jack was always messed up but he tried
A Pitch Meeting of my favorite movie. Awesome!
I saw this in theaters back in the day. It scared the daylights out of me. Jack's frozen smile at the end was the perfect ending. The bear thing was disturbing.
No, just no. This movie is awful and not scary. Even as a kid I was bored by it.
it just looked to me like he was rolling his eyes in the end and made me laugh. the rage dv type stuff was scary, nothing else in the whole movie. Shelly Duval needed to cue reactions otherwise the whole thing is just well, nothing. every change from the book was awful and the parts they kept in weren't done well.
anyone who has see hereditary can see more shat jacks possession is supposed to be like once she obliterates her own features, which Jack does in the book.
I feel it would've done much better if they just cut out almost All of the 'supernatural' especially the overdone parts and just left you suspenseful. oh well.
@@user-wi9hv2pb2q Sorry, you feel The Shining, one of the most revered and enduring ghost films of all time, 'would've done much better' with 'almost all the supernatural bits' cut?
“Also I figured that Jack could say a line like ‘Heeeeeeere’s Johnny!”
“Amazing. I could see that being parodied so many times, people are gonna get sick of it!”
It's also funny that people watching the shining now, having missed Johnny Carson, don't actually get where that came from, so now when others say "Heeeere's Johnny" they just think it's from The Shining.
@@ColinFox : Thank goodness for Weird Al Yankovic's song "Here's Johnny", then!
@@rogermwilcox And Short Circuit 2!
RIP Shelley Duvall 🪦 She will be missed ❤
"It's based off a Stephen King novel I glanced at." If you read the book and then saw the movie, you would think that was the case.
Yep, read the book a year ago, saw the movie for the first time a couple weeks ago, and MAN the book is soooo much better.
I hated the movie even before reading the book. I watched it as a kid and wasn't remotely scared by it and knew it was a pretentious creation of Kuprick in order to stroke his own ego (and probably penis). The fact that so many people glue their lips to Kuprick's ass definitely got him off while he was alive.
Actually the movie is a stand-alone masterpiece (so brave of me to say that, I know). Point is, they tried to make the original story into a TV series with King's full support (who hated Kubrick's version) but it failed miserably.
@@ladrac198 If you get a chance to watch the miniseries give it a try...it's so much better than this joke of a movie. King wrote the teleplay; Steven Weber was Jack & Rebecca De Mornay was Wendy. To be able to make it King had to agree, in writing, to stop his public criticizing Kubrick's movie.
the mini serie is better.
Hot Take: As soon as Stuart tells Jack (a writer) about the murders involving the former caretaker Jack begins creating a story based on it with his family used as characters. From there on out the movie begins blending Jack's story with Jack's reality until the movie we are watching is completely Jack's new book idea. This applies to the movie only (not King's book). This explains why static elements in the movie (stickers on Danny's bedroom door, chairs, typewriters, etc.) change (otherwise inexplicably) in the movie. They are different in Jack's reality versus the world of his book.
ah, a fellow fan of Rob Ager I see.
Like that, but yes, does not work for thw book
That's an interesting take. It reminds me of the movie "Swimming Pool" with Charlotte Rampling, where a frustrated writer spends a summer alone in her publisher's villa in Provence. Immediately, a drama ensues, although *SPOILER ALERT* the entire sexy and bloody story may very well be her own imagination, and the plot of the book she ends up writing down there.
Stephen King said he liked the 1997 mini series better cuz it was more true to his novel. But i watched it and clearly Stanley Kubrick cannot be beaten.
Love it when you pitch old movies! I won't get all the way off your back about doing more, either.
More Kubrick movies Pitch meetings plz!
"Apes caressing a giant black slab for 10 minutes is TIGHT!"
I feel like in the book Jack is also halfway there, he’s a (recovering tbf) alcoholic who beat a student and broke his son’s arm.
Almost every criticism in this pitch is a concern i have had at one point or another about this movie
and they are not even major plot holes, that's how good the movie is
@@Sartheris Can't have plot holes if there isn't a plot. However I'd argue not using the hotel in winter is a major plot hole lol. Makes literally no sense. We even see that it is possible to get there in winter
@@jordanstark5924 The Stanley Hotel (inspiration for The Overlook) was closed every winter until 1983.
Isn't that basically what these videos all are? With exception that sometimes you may not have noticed particular problems yourself yet. I don't think he's trying to find novel and unheard of plot holes to make jokes about. He goes onto reddit or something, finds a thread about plot holes in whatever film he doing, takes notes and writes a script around it. The inconsistencies are already there for anyone to see and have already been spotted. Basically you are saying "wow, i noticed those plot holes too, i must be psychic!"
@@jordanstark5924possible to get there in the winter using a snowcat. That's not exactly common transportation. It's possible to fly a helicopter to an Alaskan field station, that doesn't make it prime for tourists. That's not a plot hole, it isn't even related to the plot, it's at worst an implausible setup. But as someone else described in another comment, that hotel does exist, and it does shut down in the winter, because the terrain isn't ideal for skiing compared to alternative resorts that would be competing with. So obviously it's entirely possible and plausible, never mind a plot hole. Even if it wasn't there are a ton of reasons why a hotel would not find it financially viable to invest a bunch of money into developing a ski resort and keeping the roads clear all winter, for a potential financial gain that might not happen. You have to get the money to develop it, and pay interest on it until the profits come in. There are dozens of other resorts available, and if yours is in the end of a 12 mile mountain road that requires constant plowing to keep open all winter, and which is impassible while it's snowing (the best time to be skiing), most people will go somewhere easier to reach. And the other resorts won't have the added expense of paying a fleet of plows to keep the long road as open as possible. We have a bunch of failed ski resorts around here that went out of business, because it's hard to attract enough customers to be profitable, and those were all on highways. Now there are only a handful left and they manage to get by on the number of customers divided between them.
Movie Danny beat his father with his knowledge of Looney Tunes. The show is on in the background every time Danny watches TV and he uses Road Runner-like tactics of running, evasion and deception to defeat his father, who meets a Coyote-like fate.
Woulda been funnier if Jack Nicholson had constructed an elaborate system of chutes to deliver a spherical bomb into Danny’s path, only to hold the bomb for a moment too long and blow himself up.
Fun fact: If you see the film in a theater, you can just make out the word ACME on the axe head.
jk
It would have been even better if there were more anvils. 😂😂😂
Love those pauses in that slideshow at the end. Great to watch pitch meeting again it's been a long time
I remember being traumatized by this movie as a child. I have no idea how I managed to watch it unsupervised on VHS, but I did.
"Oh my god, the frickin' child's an alcoholic too?!"
I've been HOPING for a Shining pitch meeting for so long!!!! It's actually one of my favorite movies!!!!
4:24: "backward routes are tight"
Owowowow wow
OMG watching a pitch for my favorite movie of all time on my favorite channel of all time is TIGHT and makes Jack a dull boy!!!!!
This was excellent. I’m always amused by these videos but this one was extra satisfying. I love The Shining book and it has always bugged me so much that the movie portrayed Jack as already horrible so he had no arc. And then such a silly death by freezing when he dies kinda heroically in the book. Stephen King did his own version of the movie, it’s very long but stays true to the book.
"Here's Johnny" is a great line, but "I'm not gonna hurt you, I'm just gonna bash your brains in" is better
if he does it fast enough, she won't feel it so she won't be hurt, just dented, sooooo.... technically true 😆
Jack Nicholson should've won an Oscar for that line alone! ❤
@@danavixen6274 It was an improvised line by Mr. Nicholson himself, specifically like the Carson announcement. I'm sure you already knew that though :)
Pitch meetings about classic Kubrick films is tight!
We need to see a Pitch Meeting for Dr Strangelove!
3:39 wait, what💀💀
How about a Pitch Meeting for Psycho?
Yes sir I do! It's a story about a Mother loving hotel clerk with a penchant for amateur plumbing.
I'll bet Ryan could really sink his teeth into the super-boring final scene at the police station that no one wants to remember. Where they explain everything we already knew in excruciating detail. Long, useless explanations are TIGHT.
And then a completely identical pitch meeting for the remake.
@@4plus20isHappyThat would be so great! Awesome opportunity for two videos at the price of one.
And then The Birds
1:43
5:19
I think it’s better that the film doesn’t explain certain things. It makes the hotel scarier.
Love that everything the video calls out is what makes the Shining so great and unsettling. Usually its tearing apart terrible films.
Your crossfade... HILARIOUS! 😅
Also Shelley Duvall deserved so much better, without her performance the movie wouldn't be as scary, Kubrick mistreated her.
RIP Ms. Duvall she was fantastic.
One of the best things about the film was her performance.
It's not scary regardless.
@@englishatheart , yeah, light comedy.
Let me guess... you're a millennial?
0:46 I deeply appreciate this sort of subtle comedy
2:44 is tight! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I mean, not everyone is ignoring dick.... just saying
Just stopped in to see how they handled the bear costume in the pitch meeting.
I love the idea of classic movie pitches, please do more! 😂😅
One of my favorite mini-gags is the constant reminder by Producer Guy that skeletons are spooky. He says it just about every time and it always gets me.
"Maybe the real skeletons were inside of us the whole time," remains one of my favorite sentences ever uttered on this channel.
My absolute favorite is when Writer Guy mentions people being turned into skeletons and Producer Guy excitedly yells “those are from Halloween!” It took me a second to get it bc I thought he was talking about the movie Halloween? But no he just meant like, the holiday decor. I lost my sh!t 😂
That transition fade while still talking had me rolling
This is the most potent pitch meeting in a while, it feels like it's been a bit since I cackled out loud at a UA-cam video
"That's the name of the book you glanced at!!!"
Gold
1:58 brilliant.
Oh my gosh, I was not ready for you making fun of the cross fade while people are still talking and then actually doing it in the pitch meeting immediately after. Dead 🤣🤣🤣
3:10 ''what?''
Not my proudest fap
"So, what do people do there in the summer?" - "They would ... errr... be there ..."
It's brilliant, because I've always wondered this too. What are people supposed to do on that remote mountaintop? Hike, I suppose, but that's not everybody's thing. At least the Stanley Hotel (where some of the movie is filmed) is located down in Estes Park, CO (I stayed there once), where a tourist has all kinds of interestiong options. The Overlook never seemed all that attractive to me as a destination.
Mountain resorts used to be extremely popular summer retreats, they were considered to be healthy and a place for city folks to go relax for the summer. They were the big thing from the 1870s though the 1920s but there were still plenty of them scraping by in the 1970s. Probably still a few, although they increasingly need to "diversify" and add adventure courses or skiing or outdoors activities to attract customers. But not at all unusual. Going someplace to sit quietly and go for strolls outside and look at the scenery used to be considered a great vacation, getting away from excitement and stress was the whole point.
I imagine that it would be on the vacation circuit for the parents from Dirty Dancing.
I hope Ryan does It's a Wonderful Life for Christmastime. It'd be fun to have a black and white one.
That meta crossfade transition was everything