Pattern Testing the New England Firearms 20 Gauge

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • Last summer I found a little single-shot 20 gauge shotgun that I thought my grandson would enjoy. I knew it had a full choke with 3 inch chamber, so I thought it could make a decent turkey gun for him. In this video I will be pattern testing a few different loads to see how well it can perform. Lets try it out!

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  • @dowdawg
    @dowdawg 5 місяців тому +7

    I love single barrel shotguns!! Simple cheap in price and so easy to carry. I know some guys who have good luck with a 410 using tungsten for turkey. It’s all about the experience and fellowship. The smell of coffee, country ham and biscuits, the rumble of an old truck, the smell and quiet of the morning, the kindness and teaching of a good loving papaw…. Not to mention a good fire to fix your supper on to end the day. That’s the part of huntin that to me should never get outdated.

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  5 місяців тому +2

      I couldn't have said it any better. You my friend are an outdoorsman at heart.

  • @independentthinker8930
    @independentthinker8930 5 місяців тому +9

    I've been thinking about getting a single shot just for the nostalgia of when I stated hunting with dad 60 years ago. Never forget the dove shoots, I got pretty fast at reloading!

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  5 місяців тому +2

      The same thoughts came over me when I ran across the one in the video. Practical, reliable, simple, durable, and affordable. What's not to like about these old guns? If you really want one, I would suggest getting it. Life's too short to put off the things we cherish.

  • @5.56Media
    @5.56Media 5 місяців тому +4

    I got rid of my old H&R single 20 GA years ago ... I regret it now. Even the cost of 20 GA ammo is insane now.

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  5 місяців тому +1

      The cost of everything is insane now, but you are right. Ammo has really taken a leap lately.

  • @user-eb4sr4ml4g
    @user-eb4sr4ml4g 2 місяці тому +1

    Cool shot guns. I worked at NEF for 3 years back in 87.

  • @terrell48
    @terrell48 5 місяців тому +5

    These are great shotguns, I bought my son one 40 years ago he still has it, it’s been a good gun but I think his is a modified barrel but used for mainly dove

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  5 місяців тому

      That means he must value that old gun quite well. Good for him!😊

  • @bobh375
    @bobh375 5 місяців тому +3

    I have owned one of these for many years. Love it. I have it set up with an ATI stock, ammo carrier, light and sling. It makes a great little packable gun for wandering in the mountains.

  • @BrianBlake-oz4ru
    @BrianBlake-oz4ru 5 місяців тому +3

    Nice test and review thanks for sharing I enjoy watching your turkey pattern test

  • @waynejenkins6259
    @waynejenkins6259 5 місяців тому +2

    Another well done and informative video. After turkey hunting for 35 years with a 12 gauge and your old standby, the Federal Premium #5 copper plated shot, I switched to a 20 gauge CZ semiautomatic and the TSS loads. Last year I made another change, I bought the Stevens 301 single barrel made for turkey hunting in both .410 and 20 gauge. Equipped with factory extra full screw in chokes and camo furniture, they are good to go right out of the box. I installed red dot reflex sights and Indian Creek turkey chokes on both. I ended up carrying the 20 gauge last season, but have a goal set to harvest a gobbler with the .410. These gun are affordable, I got the 20 gauge NIB on GunBroker for $145 and the .410 for $195. As I get older, the light weight is a welcomed benefit. I don’t consider the single shot feature to be a handicap since I have taken approximately 30 gobblers with none requiring more than one shot. Good luck to you and Alex this Spring, I’m looking forward to seeing Alex with one on the ground with that little NEF 20 gauge.

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  5 місяців тому

      Hi Wayne. If I can get that boy up in time we should have a good opening day. (you know this younger generation). Just this morning I went back there, and I heard several gobblers sounding off, and saw a few as well. I am pretty sure he can make the shot if he gets the chance.

  • @thomasjohansen4788
    @thomasjohansen4788 Місяць тому +2

    Love the videos you put out. There is one thing you have to think about with old guns, new ammo have higher pressure regardles of load. Some old guns will not handle the new high pressure ammo.

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for your concern. The heavy barrel and solid receiver of this single shot is probably built stronger than most modern guns. I once owned an H&R 20 gauge in which I shot lots of magnum and heavy field loads through. Never had a problem. I feel confident with this particular gun. That being said, I do own some very old guns, and I only use low powered ammo in them.

  • @michaelhubbard1711
    @michaelhubbard1711 5 місяців тому +3

    I have 2 H&R one is topper mod Jr the other is the std 20 g my age with 3 in capability and my Jr is from 1966 my first shotgun and I say it still rolls a rabbit !! Thank you for posting . I own 2 12 gauge Remington and one is 3 1\2 mag and if you're getting these patterns.... I'm gonna try one of mine . a lot lighter and probes I didn't need those 1,400 .00:guns to do the job hopefully. And thanks for the SK 22 ammo recommendation ....they are very accurate .!!!! I like em

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  5 місяців тому

      I wish there were an American ammo maker that would produce a superbly accurate rimfire like SK- (Lapua), Eley, or RWS. I guess CCI, is as close as it gets for now.

  • @Leebeaux1
    @Leebeaux1 5 місяців тому +3

    A lot of game has been harvested with a single shot

  • @tarzansbigknife7217
    @tarzansbigknife7217 5 місяців тому +3

    I've been reloading 20ga TSS loads for years with the same 1 5/8 oz payload of 9's. Mine run 1100 fps and absolutely hammer turkeys and yes...they do pack a punch on the other end. All the reloading data for TSS shot recommends using a Mylar wrap of .003 thickness inside the wad for added protection against barrel damage. You may want to open one of those shells to check if that company uses a Mylar wrap. Mylar also tightens up the patterns as an added benefit . I wouldn't reload TSS shot without it.

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  5 місяців тому

      Thanks, that's some great advice. I have a friend that loads his own TSS shells as well. Lately I have been very impressed with 20 gauge turkey loads.

  • @Darryl792
    @Darryl792 5 місяців тому +3

    Good video Tom! Are any of the new single shot shotguns still made in the USA? You've got a nice american made 20g there that will last a lifetime. Please make more videos fixing up some of the good old guns you get. I enjoy them.

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  5 місяців тому

      I hope to do just that since good folks like you are enjoying them. Thanks!😊

    • @waynejenkins6259
      @waynejenkins6259 5 місяців тому +1

      Check out the Stevens 301. I have two of these little guns, one 20 gauge and the other is a .410. In camo trim and extra full screw in chokes, they are set up especially for turkey hunting and TSS ammo. I bought both on GunBroker, one for $145 and the other for $195.

  • @delles1548
    @delles1548 5 місяців тому +1

    I remember back in the 70's my younger brother was given this same shotgun, but back then, it was made by H&R. I was a young man then, and after fall small game hunting season and during winter deer season, I decided to test a 3 inch magnum #3 buckshot copper plated load in his gun. I set on a small dirt pile and fired at a target, and the recoil from that light weight shotgun and heavy magnum buckshot through the full choke rolled me over the dirt pile. MAN did it kick!

  • @roln2535
    @roln2535 5 місяців тому +2

    Good info again. Wondered about trying a 20 gauge this year but sounds like just about as much of kick as 12 gauge. I would guess from weighing a little less. Unless hunting a open area like a field usually 30 yards in the woods would be plenty. Thanks for the video

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  5 місяців тому

      I still use my 1187 12 ga. primarily, but I am really impressed with some of the 20 gauge loads available now.

  • @randynapier9109
    @randynapier9109 5 місяців тому +1

    New viewer and I love your videos. You do a great job, thank you! Would love to see more videos on the Marlin 39a, the longest produced .22 rifle of all time. I collect Marlins and would like to see a detailed video of forearm removal on the 39a video. Thanks and keep up the great videos!

  • @UncleSasquatchOutdoors
    @UncleSasquatchOutdoors 5 місяців тому

    As of a couple years ago, those little guns weren't available from H&R 1871. I surely hope they have started producing them and the Handi-Rifles again. At $100, you got a great deal. The gun looks to be in really good condition.

  • @lorentcase1023
    @lorentcase1023 5 місяців тому

    Great video !! Iv used a single shot 16 guage for everything. And all my turkey hunting now for 25 years. 2 Tom's each year. 50 birds zero fallow up shots. Just know your max effective range. And get em in closer. High brass number 6. Has ben good.

  • @Leebeaux1
    @Leebeaux1 5 місяців тому +2

    Louisiana has a Squirrel spring season

  • @lorentcase1023
    @lorentcase1023 5 місяців тому

    In 16 guage. The NOBEL hunting shells pattern really well. With ther Nobel wad in 6 and 7 and a half hard shot. All about the short peddles on the wads.

  • @Blackpowder54
    @Blackpowder54 5 місяців тому

    My first shotgun was an H&R 16ga loved it

  • @l.a.3887
    @l.a.3887 5 місяців тому

    Really good pattern out of the 20g

  • @lax0598
    @lax0598 Місяць тому

    I have an H&R 20ga with a fix MOD barrel. I’m solid out to 25yds. TSS could get me to 30-35yds possibly. Nice video!

  • @kalman9517
    @kalman9517 5 місяців тому +1

    + 1 on folks getting hung up on fancy gear for hunting. Watching listening and being still cannot be gained with fancy guns or gear.

  • @daveb8457
    @daveb8457 5 місяців тому +2

    Hi CO. Thanks for the patterning perspective. I have a Savage BRJ in .22lr that is out of this world accurate and I was wondering if you have ever monkeyed with any of the newer Savage .22's? Thanks for all the great content.

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  5 місяців тому

      Thanks for the inquiry. I mostly concentrate on older vintage guns, but if I run across a newer model I would be happy to review it.

  • @jeffpeters4497
    @jeffpeters4497 5 місяців тому

    I have one with multiple barrels including a 30-06 barrel, a 20 ga shotgun barrel, a 20 ga rifled slug barrel, and a 12 ga shotgun barrel with interchangeable choke tubes. I love single shot firearms

  • @jaybailleaux630
    @jaybailleaux630 5 місяців тому

    Another name for single shots is Crack Barrel. A man is well armed to put food on the table with a single shot shotgun.

  • @jbmcdonald5646
    @jbmcdonald5646 Місяць тому +2

    Question .... Should you Shoot 20G Rifled Slug Hollow point or 20G SABOT Slug in this gun you are showing? I have a New England Firearms SB1 - Thank you for your answer.

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman  Місяць тому

      Great question. It all depends on the type of choke you have. Full or modified is not recommended if used with slugs. Cylinder or perhaps improved cylinder would be ok if used with rifled slugs. Sabot slugs should be used with a rifled barrel or at least a rifled choke tube.

  • @Benelli-ex7oq
    @Benelli-ex7oq 5 місяців тому +2

    I have they same gun my is a 223

    • @waynejenkins6259
      @waynejenkins6259 5 місяців тому

      I have the H&R SB2 in .223 with the laminated stock, heavy barrel, and a 6-18X scope. Never missed a ground hog with this rig, extremely accurate!!!

  • @charleywalker2982
    @charleywalker2982 5 місяців тому +1

    👍

  • @Dan-uk2nk
    @Dan-uk2nk 5 місяців тому +1

    A 20G single shot is a breeze to carry to the stand.

  • @treysmith6511
    @treysmith6511 5 місяців тому

    I watched the video on converting steel magazines for the 541 and 582 and was wondering if you have ever made them for someone who provided the steel magazines. I would like to have a couple of these steel magazines but I don't have the tools or talent to tackle such a project. Have you ever converted said magazines for someone if they provide the magazine and offered to pay for the labor for doing this?

  • @TDINWY
    @TDINWY 5 місяців тому

    Hi CO. Have you considered honing the bore of the 20?